Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-10 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 2006/2/10, at 下午 7:41, Ville Tervo wrote:  The same happens when I'm using my bluetooth keyboard. After a while I can no longer connect it.  What is the keyboard you are using? I use a bluetooth keyboard from iTech. The Virtual Laser Keyboard. It fairly often stops working. I then change the device into "Offline mode". Then back to "Normal mode". And all is good again (well for a while at least). -Sean___
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Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-10 Thread Peter Westerström
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Ville Tervo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 04:32:04AM +0100, ext Peter Westerström wrote:
>> I've been using gpsdrive with a bluetooth gps a couple of weeks now. I
>> am experiencing the bluetooth connection to stop working after all
>> between a few minutes to half an hour.
>> After that happens no bluetooth commands works, rfcomm, hcitool scan
>> reports nothing.
> 
> What gps module you are using? And link to gpsdrive package would be
> useful. 

Gpsdrive from:
http://www.elisanet.fi/tapio.tolvanen/nokia770.html
Then my blanking disable patched binary:
http://westerstrom.com/projects/maemo-gpsdrive
I get the same bluetooth loss without blanking patch even when keeping
it active by touching the screen often.

My GPS receiver is made by socketcom. I have never had any problem with
it when connecting it to laptop or IPAQ. So we can rule that out.

> 
>> The same happens when I'm using my bluetooth keyboard. After a while I
>> can no longer connect it.
> 
> What is the keyboard you are using?

The problem does not happen that often with keyboard, Perhaps because of
less data activity?

The keyboard is a ThinkOutside HID compatible bluetooth keyboard.
I'm using keyboard-plugin 0.2.2-2:
http://770.fs-security.com/keyboard-plugin/btkeyboard-plugin_0.2.2-2_arm.deb

> 
>> I'm using 3.2005.51-13.
>>
>> Have anyone else experienced similar problems?
>>
>> Maybe I should gain root access and try to restart bluetooth (hcitool
>> hci0 down/up)?
> 
> That resets bluetooth chip so it should help. Also putting setting
> offline mode and back to online mode makes the same trick.

Ok, I will try those tricks.

Peter Westerström

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Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-10 Thread Ville Tervo
Hi,

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 04:32:04AM +0100, ext Peter Westerström wrote:
> I've been using gpsdrive with a bluetooth gps a couple of weeks now. I
> am experiencing the bluetooth connection to stop working after all
> between a few minutes to half an hour.
> After that happens no bluetooth commands works, rfcomm, hcitool scan
> reports nothing.

What gps module you are using? And link to gpsdrive package would be
useful. 

> 
> The same happens when I'm using my bluetooth keyboard. After a while I
> can no longer connect it.

What is the keyboard you are using?

> 
> I'm using 3.2005.51-13.
> 
> Have anyone else experienced similar problems?
> 
> Maybe I should gain root access and try to restart bluetooth (hcitool
> hci0 down/up)?

That resets bluetooth chip so it should help. Also putting setting
offline mode and back to online mode makes the same trick.

-- 
Ville

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Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-09 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Nils Faerber wrote:


This could be a firmware bug in the WLAN module as well...
WIFI and Bluetooth use the same frequency spectrum of 2.4GHz. Bluetooth
usually does not interfere with WIFIsince it uses very rapid channel
switch (up to 1200 channel switches per second).
But if you do an inquiry the Bluetooth module will almost broadcast
inquiry packets on all of those channels almost at once to catch modules
in its range. The inquiry scan algorithm is quite scary ;)
So inquiry cause a lot of noise in the 2.4GHz spectrum.
What could happen is that the WIFI firmware does not handle
receive/transmit faults too well. So under certain circumstance while
doing an inquiry a WIFI packet might get messed up quite badly without
the radio detecting a signal drop (because in fact it had a good carrier
all the time). Probably the same fault could be triggered with a high
traffic WIFI cell...


Yes, this looks like explanation. I hope it could be fixed in software. 
It is quite annoying when playing with bluetooth commands when I am 
ssh-ed into device over wi-fi. But it is also an issue in normal use 
cases like searching for the phone when listening to streamed music etc.


Frantisek
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Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-08 Thread Nils Faerber
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Frantisek Dufka schrieb:
> Peter Westerström wrote:
>> The same happens when I'm using my bluetooth keyboard. After a while I
>> can no longer connect it.
>> I'm using 3.2005.51-13.
>> Have anyone else experienced similar problems?
[...]
> BTW there is also something strange with wi-fi vs bluetooth in all
> firmwares I had so far see
> https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=326 looks like in heavy
> bluetooth usage (hcitool scan,sdptool browse) wi-fi connection drops.

This could be a firmware bug in the WLAN module as well...
WIFI and Bluetooth use the same frequency spectrum of 2.4GHz. Bluetooth
usually does not interfere with WIFIsince it uses very rapid channel
switch (up to 1200 channel switches per second).
But if you do an inquiry the Bluetooth module will almost broadcast
inquiry packets on all of those channels almost at once to catch modules
in its range. The inquiry scan algorithm is quite scary ;)
So inquiry cause a lot of noise in the 2.4GHz spectrum.
What could happen is that the WIFI firmware does not handle
receive/transmit faults too well. So under certain circumstance while
doing an inquiry a WIFI packet might get messed up quite badly without
the radio detecting a signal drop (because in fact it had a good carrier
all the time). Probably the same fault could be triggered with a high
traffic WIFI cell...

> Frantisek
Cheers
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Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-07 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Peter Westerström wrote:


The same happens when I'm using my bluetooth keyboard. After a while I
can no longer connect it.

I'm using 3.2005.51-13.

Have anyone else experienced similar problems?



Yes. Never happened in older FWs with bluetooth but with 3.2005.51-13 it 
happened to me few times. Looks like the connection is dead but still 
open and cannot be closed (hcitool dc). Happens with my bluetooth 
keyboard. I thought I had bad batteries in my keyboard.


BTW there is also something strange with wi-fi vs bluetooth in all 
firmwares I had so far see 
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=326 looks like in heavy 
bluetooth usage (hcitool scan,sdptool browse) wi-fi connection drops.


Frantisek
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Re: [maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-07 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
I have been having the same problem with a bluetooth keyboard. What I found works is to change the device into "Offline mode". Then back to "Normal mode". There seems to be something conflicting between the WLAN and Bluetooth connections. -SeanOn 2006/2/8, at 上午 11:32, Peter Westerström wrote:I've been using gpsdrive with a bluetooth gps a couple of weeks now. I am experiencing the bluetooth connection to stop working after all between a few minutes to half an hour. After that happens no bluetooth commands works, rfcomm, hcitool scan reports nothing.  The same happens when I'm using my bluetooth keyboard. After a while I can no longer connect it.  I'm using 3.2005.51-13.  Have anyone else experienced similar problems? ___
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[maemo-users] Bluetooth stops working

2006-02-07 Thread Peter Westerström
I've been using gpsdrive with a bluetooth gps a couple of weeks now. I
am experiencing the bluetooth connection to stop working after all
between a few minutes to half an hour.
After that happens no bluetooth commands works, rfcomm, hcitool scan
reports nothing.

The same happens when I'm using my bluetooth keyboard. After a while I
can no longer connect it.

I'm using 3.2005.51-13.

Have anyone else experienced similar problems?

Maybe I should gain root access and try to restart bluetooth (hcitool
hci0 down/up)?

Peter Westerström
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