Re: [MlMt] latest versions

2021-09-17 Thread Stephan Bösebeck
Thanks for the explanation.

I never had any problems with the "old" version of r5673 with BigSur, worked 
like charm as always😉

Now the new version looks a lot more modern, love it!

Thanks,

Stephan

On 17 Sep 2021, at 19:38, Sam Birch wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2021, at 8:17, Stephan Bösebeck wrote:
>
>> so, I am curious: we have Standard builds r5678, Beta Builds (same?!) and 
>> this secret squirrell-builds, right? Just to get it right...
>
> As far as I can tell, Benny doesn’t use the beta release channel much these 
> days. The latest beta release is r5673 — same as the latest normal release.
>
> Realistically the only way to go for Big Sur users is to use r5757 or later. 
> IMO once you find a test build that works for you, you should stick with it 
> unless it starts to misbehave. Otherwise you risk upgrading to something that 
> breaks a feature you use (e.g. the Cmd-F window-resize regression around 
> r5820).
>
> Benny does seem to be updating the version of MailMate in the 
> MailMateBigSur.tbz download. As of this writing, it’s r5818. When it was 
> first posted, it was r5757. I’m not sure if Benny intends MailMateBigSur.tbz 
> to contain the latest test build, or if he’s selecting only certain builds 
> that are perhaps more stable than the very latest test build.
>
> IIUC, Benny assures us that once he’s done with the big message view rewrite 
> there will be a normal release that works on Big Sur and things will settle 
> down somewhat.
>
> Hope this helps,
> -sam
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Re: [MlMt] latest versions

2021-09-17 Thread Sam Birch
On 17 Sep 2021, at 8:17, Stephan Bösebeck wrote:

> so, I am curious: we have Standard builds r5678, Beta Builds (same?!) and 
> this secret squirrell-builds, right? Just to get it right...

As far as I can tell, Benny doesn’t use the beta release channel much these 
days. The latest beta release is r5673 — same as the latest normal release.

Realistically the only way to go for Big Sur users is to use r5757 or later. 
IMO once you find a test build that works for you, you should stick with it 
unless it starts to misbehave. Otherwise you risk upgrading to something that 
breaks a feature you use (e.g. the Cmd-F window-resize regression around r5820).

Benny does seem to be updating the version of MailMate in the 
MailMateBigSur.tbz download. As of this writing, it’s r5818. When it was first 
posted, it was r5757. I’m not sure if Benny intends MailMateBigSur.tbz to 
contain the latest test build, or if he’s selecting only certain builds that 
are perhaps more stable than the very latest test build.

IIUC, Benny assures us that once he’s done with the big message view rewrite 
there will be a normal release that works on Big Sur and things will settle 
down somewhat.

Hope this helps,
-sam
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Re: [MlMt] latest versions

2021-09-17 Thread Stephan Bösebeck
Oh, thanks a lot. I was not aware of this. I always thought, this would be the 
same than selecting "beta builds" in the drop Down!

so, I am curious: we have Standard builds r5678, Beta Builds (same?!) and this 
secret squirrell-builds, right? Just to get it right...



On 17 Sep 2021, at 14:08, Gavan Schneider via mailmate wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2021, at 21:47, Stephan Bösebeck wrote:
>
>> am I doing something wrong?
>>
> No, just not enough right see below :)
>
>> It seems I am stuck with an older build.
>>
> No again. Secret squirrel version check is needed —
> Open Preferences. Press Option key while clicking “Check Now”
> you will be offered the beta build, i.e., 5820, just now
>
> Regards
>
> Gavan Schneider
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Re: [MlMt] latest versions

2021-09-17 Thread Gavan Schneider via mailmate
On 17 Sep 2021, at 21:47, Stephan Bösebeck wrote:

> am I doing something wrong?
>
No, just not enough right see below :)

> It seems I am stuck with an older build.
>
No again. Secret squirrel version check is needed —
Open Preferences. Press Option key while clicking “Check Now”
you will be offered the beta build, i.e., 5820, just now

Regards

Gavan Schneider
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Gavan Schneider, Sodwalls, NSW, Australia
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[MlMt] latest versions

2021-09-17 Thread Stephan Bösebeck
I am a long time user of Mailmate, love it...

I always kept it up to day using the internal update functionality, and it 
worked fine. Now I saw some discussions about version r5820... I was stuck to 
r5673 (which is the official one) and when I download the BigSur optimized 
version I get r5818 - am I doing something wrong? It seems I am stuck with an 
older build.

Cheers,

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Re: [MlMt] Many strange behaviors since a couple of days...

2021-09-17 Thread Eric Sharakan
Sorry, I just realized that you're reporting continuing problems even 
after downgrading back to r5820.  Sometimes I have to hit  twice to 
completely clear a search.  The first time just clears the text like you 
say.


I don't know about the other problem; hopefully Benny has some advice 
for you.


-Eric

On 17 Sep 2021, at 7:38, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Searching for new updates in the pref. pane (with option key) tells me 
r5820 is the current test build.  I would avoid pulling down 
"unannounced" builds from the MM archives web page (assuming that's 
what you did).


-Eric

On 17 Sep 2021, at 3:02, Robert M. Münch wrote:


Hi,

I updated to 5822 but found that it’s too buggy (correspondent view 
is not resizable; some shortcuts don’t work), so, I reinstalled 
5820, which I used before without any problems.


But now ECS no longer works to clear the search, it deletes the text 
but the search state is kept and all the other mails are not shown. 
Selecting any folder I don’t see my mails. I have to select *All 
Messages* and with some luck, the other folders show their content 
again.


I really don’t have any clue what’s going on or where these 
effects come from.


Any idea?

Viele Grüsse.

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Re: [MlMt] Many strange behaviors since a couple of days...

2021-09-17 Thread Eric Sharakan
Searching for new updates in the pref. pane (with option key) tells me 
r5820 is the current test build.  I would avoid pulling down 
"unannounced" builds from the MM archives web page (assuming that's what 
you did).


-Eric

On 17 Sep 2021, at 3:02, Robert M. Münch wrote:


Hi,

I updated to 5822 but found that it’s too buggy (correspondent view 
is not resizable; some shortcuts don’t work), so, I reinstalled 
5820, which I used before without any problems.


But now ECS no longer works to clear the search, it deletes the text 
but the search state is kept and all the other mails are not shown. 
Selecting any folder I don’t see my mails. I have to select *All 
Messages* and with some luck, the other folders show their content 
again.


I really don’t have any clue what’s going on or where these 
effects come from.


Any idea?

Viele Grüsse.

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[MlMt] Many strange behaviors since a couple of days...

2021-09-17 Thread Robert M . Münch
Hi,

I updated to 5822 but found that it’s too buggy (correspondent view is not 
resizable; some shortcuts don’t work), so, I reinstalled 5820, which I used 
before without any problems.

But now ECS no longer works to clear the search, it deletes the text but the 
search state is kept and all the other mails are not shown. Selecting any 
folder I don’t see my mails. I have to select *All Messages* and with some 
luck, the other folders show their content again.

I really don’t have any clue what’s going on or where these effects come from.

Any idea?

Viele Grüsse.

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Robert M. Münch


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