Re: MI How does MapInfo handles muliple Projections in the same window?

2000-09-01 Thread Thomas Brix Lyng

Hi

Just a little note on the subject of using coordinates in lat/lon:

MapInfos Longitude/latitude is based on (Degrees,Minuts,DecimalSeconds) not
(Degress,Minuts,Seconds) as used by most sea-GPS recivers. So You would have
to convert your coordinates to the right format before using them in
MapInfo.

Thomas Brix Lyng
Frederikshavn Municipal Administration
Denmark

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> same window?
> 
> How does MapInfo handles muliple Projections in the same window?
>   Does anyone know how MapInfo handles multiple projections in the same
> map
> window? I.e. if a WGS84 vector table is open into the same window as a
> vector OSGB36 table or vice versa, is it possible to calculate the offset?
> 
> To give you a short answer, yes.
> 
> MapInfo can display layers in different projections (even different
> projections based upon "datum"s, that is, different models of the Earth)
> in
> a Map window.  This is accomplised by the fact that:
> 
> Each mappable MapInfo table has a projection permanently associated with
> it.
> This is in contrast to an ESRI shape file, where you have to specify the
> projection every time you use it.
> 
> Each Map window has a projection associated with it.  Although this is
> generally the projection of the first table added to the map as a layer,
> you
> can change it (using Map -> Options).
> 
> Whenever MapInfo draws a Map window, it checks each layer to see if it has
> the same projection as the Map window.  If the projection is different, it
> calculates new coordinates for each object as it draws the layer.  Because
> of this, drawing maps with layers in different projections is slower than
> drawing maps with all the layers in the same projection. But that's the
> price you pay for it being possible in the first place.
> 
> There is one other consideration: The datum transformation the MapInfo
> uses
> most of the time is simple and (relatively) fast, but fairly inaccurate.
> If
> your layers are in projections based upon different datums, they might not
> line up *perfectly*.  You will have to decide if you can live with the
> inaccuracy.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Spencer
> 
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MI Extension of a window

2000-09-01 Thread Daniel Budmiger

hi

how can i in mapbasic get the maximal extension in paper units from the
maximized window? this must be dependent of the screen resolution

thanks for your hints

Daniel Budmiger


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MI mapbasic: clear cosmetic layer

2000-09-01 Thread Daniel Budmiger

dear all,

how can i clear a rectangle or another object from the cosmetic layer in
mapbasic?

thx

Daniel Budmiger


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MI scale-bar in layout

2000-09-01 Thread Daniel Budmiger

dear user-group

how can i create a scalebar in a layout window?
or how can i get the extension of a frame in a layout?

thanks

Daniel Budmiger

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MI automatic running of a sub

2000-09-01 Thread Daniel Budmiger

hi all,

for creating an own tool like overview i always want to update the overview
map after the user changed the scale of a map (by zooming in or out or
panning). how can i start the sub automatically which will update a red
rectangle in a overview map.

thanks
Daniel Budmiger

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MI Paper size and object properties

2000-09-01 Thread Dr. Frank Schuessler


We would like to print maps in two different paper sizes:  A4 and A0. Is
there a solution to change the properties of the objects (e.g. line
width, text size) according to the paper format?

Thanks a lot for any hints!

Frank


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Re: MI Further to my coordinate problem

2000-09-01 Thread Kazuhiko Yamashita
Hi Gabor,

This is a topic what I asked on the list before.
I received several kind mails of solution.

> I have saved copy as and changed the projection using that button . I then
> load the new table and sure enough it comes up with the new coordinate
> system.  The problem is that at that point I go to update columns with the
> Centroid command and it always brings up lats and longs. No matter what I
> do as far as setting map coordinated through Map>options>projections)??

When the table name is NEW_TABLE.tab, please open Mapbasic window and
type.

 Set CoordSys table NEW_TABLE 

then close Mapbasic window and you can update columns with the
projection of NEW_TABLE.

Hiko
 
Kazuhiko Yamashita
Division of Environment & Marine, Kokusai Kogyo co. ltd
3-6-3 Hakataeki-higashi, Hakata-ku, Fukuoka 812-0013 Japan
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MI how to use metadata to make a cartograpic legend ?

2000-09-01 Thread kari . eidhammer

I am converting a 1:25 maps from the Norwegian Mapping Authority’s 
format "SOSI" to MapInfo.  The map/workspace will consist of about 30 
layers/MItabs.  I am using MIpro 5.5 and a Norwegian conversion program.

1. It would be nice to use the "Extended Metadata support" feature to 
make cartographic legend in MIpro for this layers automatically. 
The "SOSI" format have feature codes but no feature descriptions. I 
want to have descriptive texts to each feature code.  There is some 
information in the MI help files, but I need some tips and hints to get 
it running.  

I have tried to do what the "Extended Metadata Support (Pass-through 
keys)" chapter in the help file says but with no luck.

2. What it the best way to generate the metadata for each table?

Alf Austrheim
NetCom GSM as
Molde, Norway


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MI XYZ to USGS DEM format?

2000-09-01 Thread Phil


Does anyone have any code \ bright ideas to take ASCII XYZ data and convert
it to USGS DEM format??

I want to import XYZ values into MI grid format, and USGS appears to be the
only available import option.

Many thanks...

Phil
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Re: MI Create Point on Polyline

2000-09-01 Thread Massimo Corinaldesi

Hi Bart,
warning: the point created (intersection of polyline and circle) lies "near"
the polyline:
there is always a small positioning error (rounded error) .

Bye

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> Everybody,
>
> Is there an easy way to snap a to-be-created point to a line/polyline? I
> have noticed that if you turn the Snap option on, it is only possible to
> snap to the constituent points of the (poly-)line, not somewhere in
between.
> Anyone knows a solution or has a Mapbasic script, which enables to create
a
> point on a polyline. I can imagine something like:
> - find the nearest polyline from the clicked point
> - create circle around point with radius = distance to nearest polyline
> - Created point = intersection of polyline and circle
> This would require a "distance to polyline" function. Anyone wants to pass
> an implementation?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bart Maes
>
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Ing. Massimo Corinaldesi
Regione Marche
Ufficio Cartografia e Informazioni Territoriali
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MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Harry Bell

Hello all.

I know this is an age old topic but was wondering if anyone had any
comments.  Basically it involves printing from layout windows to scale.  I
remember a User Group meeting a few years back where Lazlo Bardos was in
attendance, and was asked about this to which he replied that it was not
something the American users really needed to do, so was never tackled!  

Anyway, after many months of typing '333' in the Zoom box for A4, for the
last few years I've been using a bolt on application from a reseller to
achieve scale printing.  I would like to know: Do most users use a bolt on
module, write their own code or is there another solution?  Does anyone have
any opinions about this?

Have a good weekend everyone,

Harry

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East Dorset District Council

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RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question

2000-09-01 Thread Richard . Burkmar

Dave,

MapX 4.x can read & display native ESRI shape files using the
'Map.Layers.Add LayerInfoObject' method.  There is a major drawback though -
you have to know the projection of the data and specify that in the
'LayerInfoObject' - MapX does not seem to be able to get the projection from
the shape file itself.  MapX also renders the goemetry in the MapX default
styles.

Richard Burkmar.

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Does anybody out there know of any information regarding the reading and
editing
of ESRI Shapefiles using the MapX language?

Cheers

Dave Williams
Montgomery Watson


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MI Pan.MBX free download

2000-09-01 Thread George de Greef

Hi MapInfo List,

Its Spring day here in the South. So we are giving away a free map 
navigation toolbar called Pan.MBX which users can download from 
the Free section of our website.

The toolbar is especially useful for close-up work across entire 
datasets (such as cadastral registration over aerial photography, 
topographic map heads-up digitising, etc)

Regards,
George

George de Greef, ComputaMaps
PO Box 13190, Mowbray 7705, South Africa
tel: 27-21-794 0799, fax: 27-21-794 4671
cell: 083-3250762
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RE: MI mapbasic: clear cosmetic layer

2000-09-01 Thread Jacques Paris

delete from layerinfo(frontwindow(),0,1)

That works from the MapBasic window. Could replace frontwindow() by any
mapper name

Jacques PARIS

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Subject: MI mapbasic: clear cosmetic layer

dear all,

how can i clear a rectangle or another object from the cosmetic layer in
mapbasic?

thx

Daniel Budmiger


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RE: MI scale-bar in layout

2000-09-01 Thread Jacques Paris

how can i create a scalebar in a layout window?

If you want to do it, try LAYSCALE available free on our site. If you want
to know how to program it, try to get the code

or how can i get the extension of a frame in a layout?

If by extension you mean its size, double click on the rectangle=frame and
you will get its dimension. If you mean the min/max coordinates of the map
it containts, just query the corresponding mapper (mapperinfo attributes
mapper_info_maxx ..maxy minx and miny)

Jacques PARIS

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dear user-group

how can i create a scalebar in a layout window?
or how can i get the extension of a frame in a layout?

thanks

Daniel Budmiger

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RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question

2000-09-01 Thread Waardenburg, Dennis

Richard,

The major drawbacks you describe are the result of shortcomings native to
Shape files, not MapX.  Shapefiles contain neither the projection/coordinate
system nor the object style info for the layer, as Mapinfo TABs do.  MapX
can't read information that isn't there, so it's necessary for the coder to
provide it.

Dennis Waardenburg
GIS Specialist
The Environmental Company, Inc.

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> 
> Dave,
> 
> MapX 4.x can read & display native ESRI shape files using the
> 'Map.Layers.Add LayerInfoObject' method.  There is a major drawback though
> -
> you have to know the projection of the data and specify that in the
> 'LayerInfoObject' - MapX does not seem to be able to get the projection
> from
> the shape file itself.  MapX also renders the goemetry in the MapX default
> styles.
> 
> Richard Burkmar.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 August 2000 22:12
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Does anybody out there know of any information regarding the reading and
> editing
> of ESRI Shapefiles using the MapX language?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave Williams
> Montgomery Watson
> 
> 
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RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question

2000-09-01 Thread Richard . Burkmar

Hi Dennis,

How does ArcView know how to project the files and display the entities - is
the information stored in some higher order of file like a project or theme
file or something?

Richard Burkmar. 

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Richard,

The major drawbacks you describe are the result of shortcomings native to
Shape files, not MapX.  Shapefiles contain neither the projection/coordinate
system nor the object style info for the layer, as Mapinfo TABs do.  MapX
can't read information that isn't there, so it's necessary for the coder to
provide it.

Dennis Waardenburg
GIS Specialist
The Environmental Company, Inc.

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> Subject:  RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
> 
> Dave,
> 
> MapX 4.x can read & display native ESRI shape files using the
> 'Map.Layers.Add LayerInfoObject' method.  There is a major drawback though
> -
> you have to know the projection of the data and specify that in the
> 'LayerInfoObject' - MapX does not seem to be able to get the projection
> from
> the shape file itself.  MapX also renders the goemetry in the MapX default
> styles.
> 
> Richard Burkmar.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 August 2000 22:12
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Does anybody out there know of any information regarding the reading and
> editing
> of ESRI Shapefiles using the MapX language?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave Williams
> Montgomery Watson
> 
> 
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Fw: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question

2000-09-01 Thread Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.

Dennis:

Well, occasionally there are some extremely large and/or 
frequently updated datasets where it would be useful to
be able to map Shape directly..maybe in the MB to open
you could specify the projection (e.g. always NAD '83)
so it wouldn't have to be Interactive.. I realize you can
batch imut.exe but it's not suitable for files that take 1.5
hours to convert..

I don't know.. just a thought. MI Pro 6.5? 

Eric


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> Eric,
> 
> I've never heard of any plans to incorporate this into MI.  But if they did,
> it wouldn't really be much different than the import process is now.  You'd
> still have to explicitly describe the projection/coordsys before the shape
> file could be read, and that's all you really have to do now when using the
> Univeral Translator.
> 
> Once ESRI gets their act together and incorporates coordsys info into their
> files, I expect that we'll see native read capabilities in MI.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Frost / HR and Associates, Inc.
> > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 9:31 AM
> > To: Waardenburg, Dennis
> > Subject: Re: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
> > 
> > I am so excited..I did not know MI had implemented this...any idea
> > if/when will they add this to MI Pro? 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Waardenburg, Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
> > 
> > 
> > > Richard,
> > > 
> > > The major drawbacks you describe are the result of shortcomings native
> > to
> > > Shape files, not MapX.  Shapefiles contain neither the
> > projection/coordinate
> > > system nor the object style info for the layer, as Mapinfo TABs do.
> > MapX
> > > can't read information that isn't there, so it's necessary for the coder
> > to
> > > provide it.
> > > 
> > > Dennis Waardenburg
> > > GIS Specialist
> > > The Environmental Company, Inc.
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 5:32 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
> > > > 
> > > > Dave,
> > > > 
> > > > MapX 4.x can read & display native ESRI shape files using the
> > > > 'Map.Layers.Add LayerInfoObject' method.  There is a major drawback
> > though
> > > > -
> > > > you have to know the projection of the data and specify that in the
> > > > 'LayerInfoObject' - MapX does not seem to be able to get the
> > projection
> > > > from
> > > > the shape file itself.  MapX also renders the goemetry in the MapX
> > default
> > > > styles.
> > > > 
> > > > Richard Burkmar.
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 31 August 2000 22:12
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Does anybody out there know of any information regarding the reading
> > and
> > > > editing
> > > > of ESRI Shapefiles using the MapX language?
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers
> > > > 
> > > > Dave Williams
> > > > Montgomery Watson
> > > > 
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Re: MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Malcolm Norman

Hi Harry,
I have also heard that the American market does not print to scale. I still 
find that statement hard to believe, printing to scale is the the biggets 
complaint I get from my users, everyone wants to be able to do it and they 
all get very frustrated with the scale conversion method. So we commisioned 
someone to write a plotting routine, which helps but is not as slick as we 
would like. At the moment we are looking into buying a bolt on tool like 
'Easyplot' for our mapinfo users (about 50 in PCC) and 'Proprinter' for our 
pro-viewer users, though my clients find it hard to accept they have to pay 
extra for this basic facility.

I keep hoping that one day Mapinfo will not think of the non-American market 
as being a second class citizen and gives us a useable (even if very basic) 
WYSIWYG plotting facility.

Malcolm Norman
a disgruntled plotter
Portsmouth City Council
UK


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>Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:56:23 +0100
>
>Hello all.
>
>I know this is an age old topic but was wondering if anyone had any
>comments.  Basically it involves printing from layout windows to scale.  I
>remember a User Group meeting a few years back where Lazlo Bardos was in
>attendance, and was asked about this to which he replied that it was not
>something the American users really needed to do, so was never tackled!
>
>Anyway, after many months of typing '333' in the Zoom box for A4, for the
>last few years I've been using a bolt on application from a reseller to
>achieve scale printing.  I would like to know: Do most users use a bolt on
>module, write their own code or is there another solution?  Does anyone 
>have
>any opinions about this?
>
>Have a good weekend everyone,
>
>Harry
>
>Harry Bell
>GIS Project Manager
>East Dorset District Council
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MI RE: GISList: try again *Quick start*

2000-09-01 Thread Randy Wilson

Phillip,

Go to option, preferences, startup, and check the box: "display
quick start dialog"


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Somebody, maybe me, unchecked the startup dialogue box that allows you to
choose to start a blank project, open an existing project.  How do I get
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Re: MI How does MapInfo handles muliple Projections in the same window?

2000-09-01 Thread Spencer Simpson

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From: "George M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: MI How does MapInfo handles muliple Projections in the same
window?


> Spencer and Steve
> Are you referring only to the accuracy of on-the-fly transformations
only??
> Our checking of conversion of point data from one coordinate system to
> another including a different datum finds the results from MI to be
> identical to those from the Geographic Calculator to greater than 3 and I
> dont recall how many more decimal places. Are the claims of accuracy of
the
> Geographic Calculator in question or are the algorithims for the
on-the-fly
> transformation different for those for converting point data???

I don't know what the Geographic Calculator does.   This inaccuracy for
on-the-fly transformations is well documented in the manual for MapInfo
Professional: It occurs when converting  between projections in different
datums
(data?).  A conversion  between two projections based on the same datum will
not introduce any error.

Also be aware that some datums that are thought of as "different" are
really the same datum, and conversions between these datums probably
won't introduce any error.  GRS80 and WGS84 come to mind.

There is another exception: when converting between the 1927 North American
Datum (NAD27) and the 1983 North American Datum (NAD83).  MapInfo has
implemented the more accurate (but slower) NADCON algorithm developed by
the US Army Corps of Engineers.

Hope this helps.
Spencer

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Re: MI How does MapInfo handles muliple Projections in the same window?

2000-09-01 Thread Spencer Simpson


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To: "'Spencer Simpson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: MI How does MapInfo handles muliple Projections in the same
window?


> Hi
>
> Just a little note on the subject of using coordinates in lat/lon:
>
> MapInfos Longitude/latitude is based on (Degrees,Minuts,DecimalSeconds)
not
> (Degress,Minuts,Seconds) as used by most sea-GPS recivers. So You would
have
> to convert your coordinates to the right format before using them in
> MapInfo.

Well, MapInfo really stores angles (latitudes and longitudes) the way it
does
all coordinates: as binary floating-point numbers unrelated to any
decimal format.

When converting these numbers to and from strings, it uses the
"decimal degrees" format, not involving minutes or seconds.  Since there are
many, many different "degree-minute-second" formats out there, conversion
routines need to be written appropriate to the application the angles will
be
used in.

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Re: MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Spencer Simpson


- Original Message -
From: "Harry Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mapinfo User List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 4:56 AM
Subject: MI Scaling maps for layouts


> Hello all.
>
> I know this is an age old topic but was wondering if anyone had any
> comments.  Basically it involves printing from layout windows to scale.  I
> remember a User Group meeting a few years back where Lazlo Bardos was in
> attendance, and was asked about this to which he replied that it was not
> something the American users really needed to do, so was never tackled!
>
> Anyway, after many months of typing '333' in the Zoom box for A4, for the
> last few years I've been using a bolt on application from a reseller to
> achieve scale printing.  I would like to know: Do most users use a bolt on
> module, write their own code or is there another solution?  Does anyone
have
> any opinions about this?

Maybe I'm missing something here

In a Layout window, if you "double-click" on a frame which contains a Map
window, the dialog box that appears contains a place to type in the
exact scale you want.  Its accuracy depends upon having selected the
correct paper size, but A4 was a paper-size choice in my "Page Setup".

Hope this helps
Spencer
Spencer

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MI MB : list of MB reserved words or parser ?

2000-09-01 Thread Eric Maranne

Hello everybody,

After so longtime spent on other programing tools, I'm back in the MapBasic 
world  :-!

Just purchased MB6, launched it, and I did feel at home ... no much changes 
in the editor since ver 1.1  !!!

I feel I just can't cope with that anymore ...
Could someone provide me with a list of reserved words (apart from the ones 
in .defs given with MB) ? or a parser file, so that I could at least get 
this incredible improvement of a coloured syntax highlighting ? (without 
writing down all MB syntax from the manuals ?)

TIA

Have a nice Day
Eric
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MI Join Tables

2000-09-01 Thread Dyan Catamaran

Users

I have two tables one with 1 records and another with 1000 records, "Control" is 
the common link filed. I would like to join these two tables but as result I would 
like to have the full 1 records. It will display blank records for the non 
existing common link.

How is it done in MI?

Thanks

Dyan C. Catamaran
GIS/RS Specialist
-
Phero Tech Inc.
www.pherotech.com
P:604-940-9944
F:604-940-9433

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RE: MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Tim Warman

Harry,

In the past I've used Discover, a "bolt-on" designed for mineral exploration
to produce scaled plots. It works quite well.

I guess the core of the problem is that there are two distinct types of
users of MI. The first and most common (at least in the US) seem to be the
marketing, telecom and real estate types whose goal is to produce
illustrations. That's what they need, and MI is a good tool for it.

The second and smaller group are the "scientists" who need to produce what
for lack of a better term might be called "real maps". I guess we're a
smaller segment of MI's market and as a result we're stuck buying bolt-ons
to get what we need. I suppose you can't blame MI for concentrating on the
needs of the majority of its customers.

Cheers,
Tim
_
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Geologist & GIS Specialist
Richard C. Slade & Associates
North Hollywood, CA
(818) 506-0418

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Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:56 AM
To: 'Mapinfo User List'
Subject: MI Scaling maps for layouts


Hello all.

I know this is an age old topic but was wondering if anyone had any
comments.  Basically it involves printing from layout windows to scale.  I
remember a User Group meeting a few years back where Lazlo Bardos was in
attendance, and was asked about this to which he replied that it was not
something the American users really needed to do, so was never tackled!

Anyway, after many months of typing '333' in the Zoom box for A4, for the
last few years I've been using a bolt on application from a reseller to
achieve scale printing.  I would like to know: Do most users use a bolt on
module, write their own code or is there another solution?  Does anyone have
any opinions about this?

Have a good weekend everyone,

Harry

Harry Bell
GIS Project Manager
East Dorset District Council

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RE: MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Lawley, Russell S

Hi,  
I've been getting that strange creeping sensation down my spine over these
calls for easier scaled plotting, I guess Ive missed something but Ive
been plotting to scale with the standard interface for years, admittedly its
not a one-click task, but its not a heinous chore either...

some tips for the worried (who might think its impossible) and the  mean
(who like myself are allergic to spending money)

1. Experiment with the 'when map resizing' options (map>> options) I find
'preserve current scale' is easier to work with when trying to set up a
mapper to show what I want. 
2. set your system units (Options>>preferences) and map units (Map>>options)
to similar or scaleable values (I use cm paper units amd metres/km map
units)
3. Experiment with the frame object settings (double click the frame in the
layout. the bottom right box in the dialog shows you the print to scale
values eg 1 cm = 0.1 km is 1:10,000 scale, 1cm = 0.025 km is 1:2500 scale)
4. Experiment with a combination of mapper size /coverage and frame scale.
the trick is to 'accommodate the fact' that the layout frame size,the frame
scale,the mapper size and the coverage shown, are all linked. Its hideously
frustrating at first but this is mainly due to users trying to plot a map
covering 800 sq km at 1:10,000 scale in a 30 cm x 30 cm frame on a single
piece of a4. 
5. Dont rely on the contents of the mapper being accurately reflected in the
contents of the frame, there is always some shortfall/overlap,
experiment...yes I know..its a pain, but its not that bad.or try using a
mask or a clipping-region to hide extraneous objects.


HTH
r

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MI my bad - TGIF

2000-09-01 Thread Randy Wilson

MapInfo-L users,

Sorry about the reply to GISlist showing up on Mapinfo-L
My personal multitasking functions are experiencing some glitches today.
(lack of sleep)

RWilson-
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RE: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question

2000-09-01 Thread Doug

Richard
it's true (no proj. info etc.) - but perhaps a small price to pay for
published structure! Come on MI, open it up to all!

Anyway, ArcView also uses WOR or in their case APR.  So all is set in the
APR.

doug

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Hi Dennis,

How does ArcView know how to project the files and display the entities - is
the information stored in some higher order of file like a project or theme
file or something?

Richard Burkmar.

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Richard,

The major drawbacks you describe are the result of shortcomings native to
Shape files, not MapX.  Shapefiles contain neither the projection/coordinate
system nor the object style info for the layer, as Mapinfo TABs do.  MapX
can't read information that isn't there, so it's necessary for the coder to
provide it.

Dennis Waardenburg
GIS Specialist
The Environmental Company, Inc.

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>
> Dave,
>
> MapX 4.x can read & display native ESRI shape files using the
> 'Map.Layers.Add LayerInfoObject' method.  There is a major drawback though
> -
> you have to know the projection of the data and specify that in the
> 'LayerInfoObject' - MapX does not seem to be able to get the projection
> from
> the shape file itself.  MapX also renders the goemetry in the MapX default
> styles.
>
> Richard Burkmar.
>
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> Sent: 31 August 2000 22:12
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> Subject: MI ESRI Shapefile and MapX Compatibility Question
>
>
>
>
> Does anybody out there know of any information regarding the reading and
> editing
> of ESRI Shapefiles using the MapX language?
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Williams
> Montgomery Watson
>
>
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RE: MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Tim Warman

Spencer,

To illustrate what the problem with producing scaled maps in MI is, try
producing a map of a specific geographic feature on an A4 sheet, at the
maximum standard scale that will fit on the page, with a title block, a
north arrow and a decent-looking scale in under 5 minutes. I can do it using
one of the many available bolt-ons, but I'm fairly certain that it's not
possible with MI alone.

Any decent mapping program should have this as one of it's most basic
capabilities.

Cheers,
Tim
_
Tim Warman
Geologist & GIS Specialist
Richard C. Slade & Associates
North Hollywood, CA
(818) 506-0418

Maybe I'm missing something here

In a Layout window, if you "double-click" on a frame which contains a Map
window, the dialog box that appears contains a place to type in the
exact scale you want.  Its accuracy depends upon having selected the
correct paper size, but A4 was a paper-size choice in my "Page Setup".

Hope this helps
Spencer
Spencer

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RE: MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Richard Greenwood

Maybe I'm throwing on too late here, but producing maps at a specific scale
can be accomplished in 30 seconds by anyone possessing basic arithmetic
skills:

1. Assuming you have a map window open that shows generally the area you
need to plot, create a new layout. Double click on the mapper frame to see
what the approximate scale is. Lets say it's 1"=187.9', so the closest
standard scale would be 1"=200'.

2. with the mapper frame properties still open, make the frame width an
even number (so you don't have to dig around for your calculator). Say the
frame is 29.67" wide, so make it 30.0" wide.

3. Now you have a 30" wide frame and you want to plot a map at 1"=200'
scale map; so (without the aid of a calculator) I can derive that the frame
should show 6000'. Switch back to the map window and use the little
magnifying-glass-with-the-question-mark tool to set the mapper window width
to 6000'.

4. As for a scale & north arrow, I maintain a set of fancy north
arrow/scale/logos at all the standard scales, which I can slap into any
layout.

If you think plotting to scale in MapInfo is hard, DON'T use AutoCAD. I
find MI the fastest and easiest tool I have for plotting simple maps (ones
without complex labeling or hatching).

Rich

At 01:34 PM 9/1/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>Spencer,
>
>To illustrate what the problem with producing scaled maps in MI is, try
>producing a map of a specific geographic feature on an A4 sheet, at the
>maximum standard scale that will fit on the page, with a title block, a
>north arrow and a decent-looking scale in under 5 minutes. I can do it using
>one of the many available bolt-ons, but I'm fairly certain that it's not
>possible with MI alone.
>
>Any decent mapping program should have this as one of it's most basic
>capabilities.
>
>Cheers,
>Tim
>_
>Tim Warman
>Geologist & GIS Specialist
>Richard C. Slade & Associates
>North Hollywood, CA
>(818) 506-0418
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here
>
>In a Layout window, if you "double-click" on a frame which contains a Map
>window, the dialog box that appears contains a place to type in the
>exact scale you want.  Its accuracy depends upon having selected the
>correct paper size, but A4 was a paper-size choice in my "Page Setup".
>
>Hope this helps
>Spencer
>

Richard W. Greenwood, PLS
Greenwood Mapping, Inc.
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RE: MI Scaling maps for layouts

2000-09-01 Thread Tim Warman

Well I have to admit that Richard's method works like a charm - I'd used
bolt-on programs from day one so I've never actually had to do it the hard
way before.

I still think it should be a lot easier and more automated than this. Just
as an example, the Discover add-on gives you a dialogue box that asks for
the scale you want to plot at and the size of the paper you're plotting to.
It then adds a region to a temporary layer in your mapper, the region being
the area that can be plotted at the specified scale and paper size. You can
move the region around, and keep respecifying scales and/or paper sizes
until you've got something you're happy with.

Next, it asks if you want to add a grid, a scalebar, and a title block to
your layout, and lets you fill in the lines on your title block. It even
adds some automatic things like projection and date info. Finally, it
creates the layout window and places all of the map items exactly where you
told it to.

Is this too much to ask of MI?

Cheers,
Tim
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Geologist & GIS Specialist
Richard C. Slade & Associates
North Hollywood, CA
(818) 506-0418

-Original Message-
From: Richard Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 2:49 PM
To: Tim Warman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MI Scaling maps for layouts


Maybe I'm throwing on too late here, but producing maps at a specific scale
can be accomplished in 30 seconds by anyone possessing basic arithmetic
skills:

1. Assuming you have a map window open that shows generally the area you
need to plot, create a new layout. Double click on the mapper frame to see
what the approximate scale is. Lets say it's 1"=187.9', so the closest
standard scale would be 1"=200'.

2. with the mapper frame properties still open, make the frame width an
even number (so you don't have to dig around for your calculator). Say the
frame is 29.67" wide, so make it 30.0" wide.

3. Now you have a 30" wide frame and you want to plot a map at 1"=200'
scale map; so (without the aid of a calculator) I can derive that the frame
should show 6000'. Switch back to the map window and use the little
magnifying-glass-with-the-question-mark tool to set the mapper window width
to 6000'.

4. As for a scale & north arrow, I maintain a set of fancy north
arrow/scale/logos at all the standard scales, which I can slap into any
layout.

If you think plotting to scale in MapInfo is hard, DON'T use AutoCAD. I
find MI the fastest and easiest tool I have for plotting simple maps (ones
without complex labeling or hatching).

Rich

At 01:34 PM 9/1/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>Spencer,
>
>To illustrate what the problem with producing scaled maps in MI is, try
>producing a map of a specific geographic feature on an A4 sheet, at the
>maximum standard scale that will fit on the page, with a title block, a
>north arrow and a decent-looking scale in under 5 minutes. I can do it
using
>one of the many available bolt-ons, but I'm fairly certain that it's not
>possible with MI alone.
>
>Any decent mapping program should have this as one of it's most basic
>capabilities.
>
>Cheers,
>Tim
>_
>Tim Warman
>Geologist & GIS Specialist
>Richard C. Slade & Associates
>North Hollywood, CA
>(818) 506-0418
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here
>
>In a Layout window, if you "double-click" on a frame which contains a Map
>window, the dialog box that appears contains a place to type in the
>exact scale you want.  Its accuracy depends upon having selected the
>correct paper size, but A4 was a paper-size choice in my "Page Setup".
>
>Hope this helps
>Spencer
>

Richard W. Greenwood, PLS
Greenwood Mapping, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(307) 733-0203 fax: 733-4018
http://www.GreenwoodMap.com

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MI Null colour in VM2

2000-09-01 Thread Forest Pearson

Just fooling around vertical mapper and the 1km grid of the world that comes
on the VM2 CD, and I wonder, is there  a way to change the null colour from
white?  Specifically, I would like the ocean areas to be a blue or something
like that.  Ideas?

Forest Pearson, Engineering Geologist, EIT
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tim Warman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: MI Scaling maps for layouts


> Maybe I'm throwing on too late here, but producing maps at a specific
scale
> can be accomplished in 30 seconds by anyone possessing basic arithmetic
> skills:
>
> 1. Assuming you have a map window open that shows generally the area you
> need to plot, create a new layout. Double click on the mapper frame to see
> what the approximate scale is. Lets say it's 1"=187.9', so the closest
> standard scale would be 1"=200'.
>
> 2. with the mapper frame properties still open, make the frame width an
> even number (so you don't have to dig around for your calculator). Say the
> frame is 29.67" wide, so make it 30.0" wide.
>
> 3. Now you have a 30" wide frame and you want to plot a map at 1"=200'
> scale map; so (without the aid of a calculator) I can derive that the
frame
> should show 6000'. Switch back to the map window and use the little
> magnifying-glass-with-the-question-mark tool to set the mapper window
width
> to 6000'.
>
> 4. As for a scale & north arrow, I maintain a set of fancy north
> arrow/scale/logos at all the standard scales, which I can slap into any
> layout.
>
> If you think plotting to scale in MapInfo is hard, DON'T use AutoCAD. I
> find MI the fastest and easiest tool I have for plotting simple maps (ones
> without complex labeling or hatching).
>
> Rich
>
> At 01:34 PM 9/1/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> >Spencer,
> >
> >To illustrate what the problem with producing scaled maps in MI is, try
> >producing a map of a specific geographic feature on an A4 sheet, at the
> >maximum standard scale that will fit on the page, with a title block, a
> >north arrow and a decent-looking scale in under 5 minutes. I can do it
using
> >one of the many available bolt-ons, but I'm fairly certain that it's not
> >possible with MI alone.
> >
> >Any decent mapping program should have this as one of it's most basic
> >capabilities.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Tim
> >_
> >Tim Warman
> >Geologist & GIS Specialist
> >Richard C. Slade & Associates
> >North Hollywood, CA
> >(818) 506-0418
> >
> >Maybe I'm missing something here
> >
> >In a Layout window, if you "double-click" on a frame which contains a Map
> >window, the dialog box that appears contains a place to type in the
> >exact scale you want.  Its accuracy depends upon having selected the
> >correct paper size, but A4 was a paper-size choice in my "Page Setup".
> >
> >Hope this helps
> >Spencer
> >
>
> Richard W. Greenwood, PLS
> Greenwood Mapping, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (307) 733-0203 fax: 733-4018
> http://www.GreenwoodMap.com
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