RE: MD: optical recording with portable cd's

[Steve Riley]

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nah, thats what i did, its just one of the older discman (discmen?) models
that doesnt have an optical out.  must
be just an analog out or something.  how disappointing.
oh well, guess im upgrading.

 steve riley.
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 3:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: MD: optical recording with portable cd's
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>
>
> make sure you're using the discman while it's plugged into
> an AC adaptor.  I've heard a few things about optical being
> turned off while in battery mode.  Not sure if this is the case
> with all portables, but worth looking into.  You might be able
> to fool it if you run from battery but have the adapter plugged
> in at the same time.  that last one was just a guess, I've
> never tried it.
>
> good luck, and let us know what happens
>
> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Steve Riley wrote:
>
> >
> > hey, anyone have any luck with any particular portable
> > cd players for recording digitally? i keep trying with a
> > discman through its lineout with a optical mini-mini
> > and im gettin a no signal. any ideas?
> >
> >  steve riley.
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RE: MD: optical recording with portable cd's

[Brian Blater]

Steve,

Just bought a SONY D-E561 portable CD player that has an optical out. Works
great, is a slim design. Very portable. I got it at Target and I've seen
them at Walmart. Both places had them for about $100.

Just finished recording a bunch of stuff from CD to my Sharp 702 and it
worked great.

Brian

> hey, anyone have any luck with any particular portable
> cd players for recording digitally? i keep trying with a
> discman through its lineout with a optical mini-mini
> and im gettin a no signal. any ideas?
>
>  steve riley.

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Re: MD: optical recording with portable cd's

[jds]

make sure you're using the discman while it's plugged into
an AC adaptor.  I've heard a few things about optical being
turned off while in battery mode.  Not sure if this is the case
with all portables, but worth looking into.  You might be able
to fool it if you run from battery but have the adapter plugged
in at the same time.  that last one was just a guess, I've never tried it.

good luck, and let us know what happens

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Steve Riley wrote:

> 
> hey, anyone have any luck with any particular portable
> cd players for recording digitally? i keep trying with a
> discman through its lineout with a optical mini-mini
> and im gettin a no signal. any ideas?
> 
>  steve riley.

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MD: MZ-R50 remote

[Eric Kang]

My remote just gotten crashed.  Does anyone know where I could buy another
stock model one?  I would like to buy with the credit card.

Eric Kang
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| an AC adaptor.  I've heard a few things about optical being
| turned off while in battery mode.

Yes.  With the newer models with large (20-40 second) buffers, the read
head reads enough to fill the buffer, and then shuts of.  There is a nasty
problem here because there is some data compression going on (something
inferior to ATRAC) which is how Sony manages to get so much buffered.  This 
causes problems with MD recorders.  There is a note in my 702 manual about
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MD: optical recording with portable cd's

[Steve Riley]

hey, anyone have any luck with any particular portable
cd players for recording digitally? i keep trying with a
discman through its lineout with a optical mini-mini
and im gettin a no signal. any ideas?

 steve riley.
 media.
 look.
 listen.
 everlasting peace:
http://www.imagineradio.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name
  =maldor
  
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RE: MD: SB Live value and Hoontech addaptor.

[Brian Blater]

Craig,

I notice there wasn't any responses to your question and thought I would
jump in. I'm not an expert but up until a week ago was using the SB Live
and the hoontech DB. I had your same problem and others. At first the SB
would
pick up noise from the VIA pci bus, solved that by changing bios settings.
Then I couldn't get a red light, solved that by reinstalling everything.
Then,
just like you, got very little to no volume when recording to my 702. I
increased
the wav/mp3 out on the mixer to 100% and that made only a little difference.

I spent two days on the phone with SB support and couldn't get anything
better
than reinstall everything, no optical out support on the SB Live Value etc.
I
looked in the SB news groups and didn't get much help there and saw a lot of
other people having a lot of problems with there SB cards also. I continued
to mess with it for a little while longer with no success and finally
returned
the card. I have ordered the Hoontech Digital-XG card with the DB for
digital
in/out and will get that installed today and see how that works.

The only suggestion I have right now is to try increasing the wav/mp3 out on
the mixer and that might give you a little more volume. Otherwise your
problem
is very common with the SB Live card. I've talked with some people that have
had
no problems what so ever, then others that can't get the card to work at
all.
The only thing I can think of is that it works better with certain types of
hardware
than with others. Maybe that was my problem.

Anyways, IMHO you can find better cards with better support and for less
money than
the SB Live. A lot of people have had good luck with the Xitel Storm
Platinum also.

Good Luck
Brian

> I have a SB Live value sound card and just got a hoontech
> addaptor board. I
> see a red light from the optical out and my MD recorder says
> digital in. but
> when I try to record it doesn't do anything (like auto-seance the audio
> playing) there is no volume control for the digital out in
> software only in.
> Am I missing something?
> Thanks,
>

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MD: Optical Cable

[Thiago Pinheiro da Costa Souza]

Hi,

   Does Sound Blaster Live! Platinum gots optical cable output?

Thank You,
Thiago Souza

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MD: Problem solved, sort of

[PrinceGaz]

Hi guys,

Okay, I'll do my bit to wind up the ongoing PC soundcard setup thread.

I've sorta solved the problem I had with stuttering in a certain Win98
app when it was sending raw audio data to the SB Live Player 1024
card.

It had (as someone correctly stated) nothing to do with the SB16 emu
stuff, that worked a treat after all playing Doom as I think I mentioned.
The AGP Video Card (Creative Savage4) was also innocent, but as
all I was running was Win98 in 1024x768x16bit at 85Hz, the k6-3/400
and videocard along a 2x AGP bus should have easily coped.

It was the damn soundcard drivers all along as I originally suspected.
There are two types of Win 9x sound driver :- those with a loaded gun,
and those who dig [apologies to Clint Eastwood] :-)

More accurately "True DirectX Drivers" and "MME Drivers".  Using a
synth prog, the DirectX driver would play fine without any buffer under-
runs at 50mS whilst the MME driver needed at least 150mS.  There
must be a utility out there which can measure this automatically and
report on the driver type but my prog with stutter problems will only use
the MME Driver (previously, it used a true DirectX SB16 one).

The only driver I could use was the MME one under "Control Panel ->
Multimedia -> Audio" in the playback bit-- "SB Live! Wave Out [E800]".
The DirectX driver was only listed in the synth progs driver options, as
"DirectSound (SB Live! Wave Out [E800])" and was the far superior
one.

Either way, an option on the prog which caused the stuttering, along
with other tweaks appears to have cured it-- giving it increased priority,
and favoring smooth performance.  Oh and having a CPU utilisation of
only about 40% may have helped.

Well thats all I have to say on this topic-- for now, and hopefully for many
weeks as I dislike malfunctioning progs as much as most of you peeps
dislike off-topic discussion, though arguably a clean audio output is
*very* on-topic, yeah?

Cheers,
PrinceGaz -- "if it harms none, do what you will"

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Re: MD: RE:Sony Dropping MD

[Bob Willcox]

On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 02:05:09PM +0100, Magic wrote:
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> Subject: RE:MD: Sony Dropping MD
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> >
> > Hey I'd think about dropping MD if the cost of solid state media dropped
> to
> > below 2UKP per hundred meg instead of circa 60UKP for 50mb.
> >
> 
> Check again. The "Memory Price Rocket" as I decided to call it means that
> 64Mb of RAM now costs a whopping £150! So much for memory prices falling
> rapidly - it's going to take quite a few months for the industry to recover
> back to the way it was only last month, I would say it will be well into
> 2005 at least before solid state storage becomes a viable alternative.

This reminds me of the persistent RAM (CCD, bubble, flash, etc.) vs. Disk
technology wars in the computer industry.  Since 1978 (at least) there
have been the constant predictions that disk drives would be made
obsolete due to some new RAM technology.  Well, for the last 20 years
that I've been watching its not happened yet.  I believe you'll find
that price has always been the major factor.

I am beginning to doubt that it will ever happen in the computer
industry with disk drives (IBM recently announced a 72GB disk!).  The
audio industry may go the same way.

Bob

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Re: MD: "Hesitating" sound

[Hannes Rohde]

Hi!

Although this discussion has been taken to private mail, I want to
add two possible solutions to the problem of "stuttering" sound:

1.) Buffering: I don't know about winamp, but all mp3-players I
have allow to set the size of a buffer for decoded audio data.
If this buffer is large enough, playback should continue even
when the cpu is busy (until the buffer is empty, that is).

2.) Busmaster drivers for the HD: Check if your harddisks are set
to busmaster/dma transfer mode. That way, harddisk reads/writes
will cause much less cpu load. These settings can be en-/disabled
for each harddisk in the control panel.

Bye,
  Hannes

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Re: MD: CD-R / CD-RW

[Bob Willcox]

This makes about as much sense to me as most clueless repairmen do.  I
really don't see how a scratched disc would damage a CD player.  There
is no contact with the disc (except in the center where it is clamped).

Bob

On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 11:19:57PM -0400, J. Coon wrote:
> 
> This is from another  list.  Does it make sense to anyone? or was the
> repairman just pulling the guy's leg?
> Bill  wrote:
> > 
> > Anyone with experience with these drives have any problems with the
> > created discs damaging normal CD players (as opposed to CD-ROMs)?  A
> > friend of mine says he had to have his CD player repaired recently and
> > the repairman asked if he'd been using either any badly scratched discs
> > or homemade discs.  He had been listening to a homebrew disc, so said
> > yes.  The repairman said that that was the cause of his problem.  I have
> > never heard this and question how this could be.  Any comments?
> > 
> > Bill

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MD: MD-MT15H

[Joost de Meij]

Someone wrote:

>HI!
>
>anyone has this sharp MD-MT15H ? Is it good?

I just bought it last weekend. So far i had not any problems with it.
Excellent sound quality, and all edit functions. 24bit Atrac.
The only big difference between the MD-MT15 is that the MD-MT20 comes
with a adaptor, remote control, and a special battery, and the
MD-MT15 doesn't. But you can buy them later...

Bye, Joost. (don't mind my bad english, because i live in the
 Netherlands ;-)

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MD: Sharp and Malaysia

[DJ DeeKay]

Hi!

Are the Sharp (Made in Malaysia) Products also affected by 
problems like sony has with it's Malaysian ones?

Greetz, Matthias (May be a stupid question)

Matthias, Official WebMaster of DJs At Work

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Re: MD: JE510 SCMS bug

[DJ DeeKay]

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hi, again :)

do u have a sony JE-510 too?

Greetz, Matthias 

> 
> I read somewhere that there is a bug on a Sony MD deck (don't know
> which one). You could try this:
> Set your JE510 in recording pause mode, and let the source play.
> Keep switching the sterio/mono switch, untill the "cannot copy" messa-
> ge goes away, and then press play on the JE510.
> 
> I don't know if this works, because i own a JE520, and it didn't work
> on it.
> 
> 
> Bye, Joost (don't mind my bad English, because i life in the Netherlands).
> 
> Someone wrote:
> >I've looked over the minidisg.org 'hacking' area, but can't see anywhere
> >where I might find information on disabling the SCMS on Sony JE510.
> 
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Re: MD: JE510 SCMS bug

[David W. Tamkin]

Joost wrote,

| I read somewhere that there is a bug on a Sony MD deck (don't know
| which one). You could try this:
| Set your JE510 in recording pause mode, and let the source play.
| Keep switching the sterio/mono switch, untill the "cannot copy" messa-
| ge goes away, and then press play on the JE510.

I think you're remembering something about the MDS-501; the European edition
had two digital inputs, and if you switched between the two after getting
into record/pause, you could trick it into copying an SCMS-final source
(nobody ever said, but I believe the copy would in turn be marked
SCMS-final).  It was the input selector, not the mono/stereo selector.

| I don't know if this works, because i own a JE520, and it didn't work
| on it.

It doesn't work on the JE510 nor on the JE520.

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