MD: Need ideas for MZ-R90, MZ-E90

1999-11-27 Thread Act444


OH yeah, I need to add that I need some ideas about the recorder and/or 
player and anyone who has had any experience with any of these units tell me 
your ideas so I can make this decision...

I appreciate it.
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RE: MD: Cassette-style cases

1999-11-27 Thread Rick Pali


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> I like the MD cassette style cases (found on High
> Space MDs from Minidisco) because you can write
> so much on the inserts, far more than can be
> written on a MiniDisc slip case adhesive label.

I've never even run out of space on the label that's affixed to the face of
the MiniDisc itself. :-)

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Re: MD: Cassette-style cases

1999-11-27 Thread RWShepherd


I like the MD cassette style cases (found on High Space MDs from Minidisco) 
because you can write so much on the inserts, far more than can be written on 
a MiniDisc slip case adhesive label.

Rob
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Re: MD: Cassette-style cases

1999-11-27 Thread Dan Frakes



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"J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >The slip cases are much easer, don't get broken as easily, and
>> >are smaller. IMHO.
>> 
>> Yeah, but you can't make good custom case inserts for them ;-)
>
>Are you sure? I thought there was a company that made labels for
>Minidiscs.

I mean that you can't make them yourself
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RE: MD: MO technology and MD data usage

1999-11-27 Thread Rick Pali


From: Magic

> I think I would rather boot my OS from something
> that looked like a brick than a "Hello Kitty"
> anything!

Damned straight. I got a semi-random selection of blanks mailed to me from a
friend living in Japan for a few years. I was certain that they'd send a
'Hello-Kitty' disc in there just to bug me. Thankfully they didn't, but the
pink Sony Lumina disc is bad enough...

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Re: MD: Sony MD discam (OT)

1999-11-27 Thread Graham Baker


I am also beginning to wonder if Sony's marketing/design experts are losing
the plot.
I agree that a 1394 connection should be a basic inclusion for digital
video
When you look at the other video formats recently released by Sony,
including Digital8 and some other weird hi8 sealed cassette (that maybe
never got out of Japan) and 'Memory Stick' (expensive and physically
non-compatible, when the world already has cheap CF & smart media devices)
you begin to wonder why they saturate the market with various
non-compatible formats...
At least Hitachi seem to be working on disc based cams with full DVD
compatibility - that's the way to go IMHO
GB

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From: Rodney Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 28 November 1999 9:56
Subject: Re: MD: Sony MD discam (OT)


>
> Yes, but the inclusion of a digital output is so basic for this kind of
> camcorder and really standard with any digital camcorder, so the only
> thing I can think of is the SCMS angle for not including it on a MD
> Discam. What if Sony's first MD unit had an MD recorder, CD player and
> small speakers built in-but no outputs or inputs. It would have been a
> colassal failure. That's pretty much what they did here. They're trying
> to target upsacle family camcorder owners with this product and there is
> apparently no desire to sell these to people who will use them for
> semi-professional or professional video recording.

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Re: MD: Overclocking - definitely OT, but it keeps going....

1999-11-27 Thread Jeff DeMaagd


--- Magic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Yes, but having large scale server systems in a
living room isn't exactly practical. FOr one thing
they're quite large and they also get very hot.<

Hmmm...  Every major processor type I know about was
available in a slimline desktop or workstation, and
you can get good performance (used) for the same price
as mid-range PC.  Not for everyone, but I value
reliability.

>If I had the money I would have bought an Amulet
asynchronus processor which is about 200 times faster
than the fastest clocked CPU.<

Got anymore info on this?

I guess I'm due for a second flogging...

Jeff
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Re: MD: MO technology and MD data usage

1999-11-27 Thread Magic


From: Hannes Rohde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: MD: MO technology and MD data usage




Hannes made the comment:
> After all, minidiscs look far better than zip discs!

I agree

Hannes then trashed his own statement by saying:
> (Imagine booting your favourite OS from a "Hello Kitty" disc!)

Sorry, your argument was that MDs look better than ZIP? I think I would
rather boot my OS from something that looked like a brick than a "Hello
Kitty" anything!

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Re: MD: Overclocking - definitely OT, but it keeps going....

1999-11-27 Thread Magic


From: Jeff DeMaagd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: MD: Overclocking - definitely OT

> OOOH, a 13% speed increase.  Can you even notice it
> without timing something?

Yes. It saves me around 48 hours on a large ray-traced animation render. I
consider that worth it. THat means if I render a video (which I do quite
often) I get full use of the PC back 2 days earlier.

> > My P3 450MHz is running quite happily at 540MHz with
> a bus speed of 40MHz.<
>
> Typo?  Still, it is only a 20% speed increase.

More than 20% actually. Average of about 48% due to the 50% increase on RAM
timings which are a large factor.

> Um, Duh.  But then, don't kid yourself into thinking
> Intel had the fastest CPU on the market.  It isn't
> even near the top five, neither is AMD.  I've had a
> _real_ 500MHz CPU running before Intel figured out how
> to clock at 350 safely.

Yes, but having large scale server systems in a living room isn't exactly
practical. FOr one thing they're quite large and they also get very hot. If
I had the money I would have bought an Amulet asynchronus processor which is
about 200 times faster than the fastest clocked CPU.

> Now can we get on topic before we have a public
> flogging?  There are other lists to discuss your
> little PCs.

Nope. Public floggings are good for the soul.. man yeah.


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MD: CD changer with Custom File and CD Text transfer

1999-11-27 Thread Mitch P.


I will soon have a Sony MD deck and would like to get
a compatible Sony CD changer with Custom File and CD
Text transfer (disc and track titles transfer
automatically as you record from CD to MiniDisc).

Does anyone know where I can get one of these for
under $200?  They probably come in the "carousel"
variety, but do some portable CD players have this as
well?

Thanks,
Mitch
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Re: MD: Sony MD discam (OT)

1999-11-27 Thread Rodney Peterson


Yes, but the inclusion of a digital output is so basic for this kind of
camcorder and really standard with any digital camcorder, so the only
thing I can think of is the SCMS angle for not including it on a MD
Discam. What if Sony's first MD unit had an MD recorder, CD player and
small speakers built in-but no outputs or inputs. It would have been a
colassal failure. That's pretty much what they did here. They're trying
to target upsacle family camcorder owners with this product and there is
apparently no desire to sell these to people who will use them for
semi-professional or professional video recording. Hopefully they will
make a pro model with the digital output but I won't buy one until
then-at the very least. I have the TRV900 as well and have had no
problems with it. It's highly regarded and has very favorable reviews
from video journalists. It's just a bit too big-but then again it is the
smallest 3 chip Mini DV camcorder available and not any bigger than the
majority of normal one chip digital or analog camcorders. It is big,
though, when compared to one of the really small Sony Mini DV's or
others. But most of these smaller camcorders (non Sony) are junk in
comparison.

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MD: md-l-digest V2 #437 - Automatic Reply

1999-11-27 Thread Mark Holmes


I'm on leave until 2 Jan.  Please contact Ade Morris (AMORR x3553) for PAFS problems 
or Jeffrey Bowman/Jason Hiscocks (JBOWM x4394, JHISC x4320) for CIMS.
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Re: MD: Sony MD discam (OT)

1999-11-27 Thread Graham Baker


Hi Rodney,

I'm sure Sony will do better
What we are seeing here is the start of disc based video recording and the
ultimate end (hooray!) of tape as the storage medium.
It will probably take a while but I am sure this is the way of the
future...

FWIW, my Sony DV cam has already destroyed two tapes and had the transport
replaced, after just 8 mths of home use and I am not he only one - there
seems to be a trend developing with this model (TRV900).

The sooner we get away from tape, the better IMHO.

As much as I love the (audio) MD format, I'm not so sure that I would go
with Sony's discam MD format - there are designs being developed that use
DVD standards that may be more practical and compatible with DVD players
(although they may also be larger?)

GB

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From: Rodney Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It's very cool but with two HUGE drawbacks not included that are found
> on Sony Mini DV Camcorders:
>
> Come on, Sony, you can do better!


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Re: MD: Quality of Digital Out on CDROM

1999-11-27 Thread Gadagada


In a message dated 11/27/99 5:30:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I just want to know if there is a difference of quality of the digital
 out between different CDROMs, because my CDROM is a 8X Goldstar
 (GCD-R580B) and perhaps it would be better to buy a new one :) >>


No, a digital out is just that... pure 1's and 0's.  There is no such thing 
as "better quality digital sound,"  such as between two brands of blank 
minidiscs or two different cd rom drives.  There may be some tiny tiny tiny 
tiny difference between two cd-rom drives because of slight (and I do mean 
slight) variations in spin speed.  But any "audiophile" who tells you he can 
hear the difference between them is lying.


Gary
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Re: MD: Overclocking - definitely OT

1999-11-27 Thread Jeff DeMaagd


--- Magic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: PrinceGaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> Just to re-assure the guy who wondered a couple of
nights ago if I was still alive, yep I am, and so is
my PC (which given my recent overclocking trials is
perhaps surprising).  The AMD K6-3/400 chip in my
machine is running happily at 450 but I did try
earlier<<

OOOH, a 13% speed increase.  Can you even notice it
without timing something?

> My P3 450MHz is running quite happily at 540MHz with
a bus speed of 40MHz.<

Typo?  Still, it is only a 20% speed increase.

> Don't kid yourself about a K6-3 being faster than a
P3, it isn't.<

Um, Duh.  But then, don't kid yourself into thinking
Intel had the fastest CPU on the market.  It isn't
even near the top five, neither is AMD.  I've had a
_real_ 500MHz CPU running before Intel figured out how
to clock at 350 safely.

Now can we get on topic before we have a public
flogging?  There are other lists to discuss your
little PCs.

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Re: MD: MO technology and MD data usage

1999-11-27 Thread Hannes Rohde


Remko van der Vossen wrote:

> >if you consider that a MD recorder can accept a streaming
> >digital input of CD quality audio (via the optical in), encode
> >it with ATRAC, AND write it to the disk, all in real-time -
> >then i think you'll find the bandwidth of the system quite
> >sufficient for removable media purposes on a PC.

> Mind you that 44.1 KHz stereo 16 bits is only 176 Kb/s and that
> ain't much at all,

That's the speed of a 1x cdrom drive... Anyone remember those things?
Compared to todays standards, it's awfully slow...

(The 44100*2*2 calculation is not 100% correct for minidiscs: ATRAC
compresses the audio data to 1/5 of the ammount, so transfer speed
could be reduced to 1/5 of 176kB/s, but the minidisc units still
read/write at full speed, and read/write operations only take 1/5
of the time; the unit is idle 4/5 of the time)

> granted a normal floppy drive is slower, but a decent Zip drive
> can easily manage 600 Kb/s

... which is one reason for zip's success and MD/Data's failure.

Despite all drawbacks, I would still like to see a decent MD/Data
drive: takes audio MDs, allows for 120-140 MB of data, will record
mp3s/wave files, let's me title discs via keyboard...

After all, minidiscs look far better than zip discs!
(Imagine booting your favourite OS from a "Hello Kitty" disc!)

Bye,
  Hannes

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RE: MD: MinidiscNow

1999-11-27 Thread Mark I. Ross


Wow! You must be like, their first happy customer or something.  Reading the
MD Forums, they are the most hated MD retailer of all time by the looks of
it...
I would recommend minidisco.com as they were super fast and had all kinds of
good stuff  ;)

Ciao for now,
mark  ;)

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I recently got the BEST service from MDnow on a mic. Didn't work right and
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replaced. I am one happy customer of MinidiscNow. Great service!  Jerry

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MD: EDL Pro Audio MD Software

1999-11-27 Thread RJ Kirkland


Has anyone purchased and used this software? I am interested in buying an
MD data drive, but prior to me doing so I want to know if it is worth the
(EXTREMELY) steep price for this software, on top of the high price for the
MDH-10/11.


RJ Kirkland
KC2COE
Computer Eng/Sci
U of South Florida
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Re: MD: NEED HELP CHOOSING BETWEEN MZ-R90 and MZ-E90

1999-11-27 Thread J. Coon


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> 
> I need to know before next Tuesday; should I get an MZ-R90 or an MZ-E90 as a
> second MD portable?
> 
> I already have an MZ-R55 Sony MiniDisc recorder so I don't absolutely need a
> recorder, but just for the upgrade.

It all depends on your intended use.  If you are going to lend it to
people tohear anything, a player prevents them from mressing record and
messing up a recording.  (So does pushing the record protection tab on
the MD)  I think I'd get the recorder 

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Re: MD: MinidiscNow

1999-11-27 Thread J. Coon


That certainly is good news to hear.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> I recently got the BEST service from MDnow on a mic. Didn't work right and
> they stayed with me(e-mail) while I returned it and it was quickly
> replaced. I am one happy customer of MinidiscNow. Great service!  Jerry

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RE: MD: MO technology and MD data usage

1999-11-27 Thread Remko van der Vossen


At 07:33 PM 11/26/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I would question your first point...  ;)
>
>Agree that write speed would be less than read speed; however if you
>consider that a MD recorder can accept a streaming digital input of CD
>quality audio (via the optical in), encode it with ATRAC, AND write it to
>the disk, all in real-time - then i think you'll find the bandwidth of the
>system quite sufficient for removable media purposes on a PC.  Plus the
>benefit of the disks not being as easily affected (as floppies) by magnetic
>fieldsit all adds up...
Mind you that 44.1 KHz stereo 16 bits is only 176 Kb/s and that ain't much 
at all, granted a normal floppy drive is slower, but a decent Zip drive can 
easily manage 600 Kb/s


>In any case it would be vastly better than floppy drive technology which
>should have been obseleted years ago...

Due to a high error ratio of a minidisc (which isn't a problem for audio) 
it is not as suitable for data as you'd think, which leads to  a lot of 
redundancy, ie the disk will probably be much less than 140 Mb, more like 
100-120


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MD: MinidiscNow

1999-11-27 Thread jerry


I recently got the BEST service from MDnow on a mic. Didn't work right and
they stayed with me(e-mail) while I returned it and it was quickly
replaced. I am one happy customer of MinidiscNow. Great service!  Jerry
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Re: MD: Overclocking - somewhat OT

1999-11-27 Thread Magic


From: PrinceGaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:52 PM
Subject: MD: Overclocking


>
> Hi guys,
>
> Just to re-assure the guy who wondered a couple of nights ago if I
> was still alive, yep I am, and so is my PC (which given my recent
> overclocking trials is perhaps surprising).  The AMD K6-3/400 chip
> in my machine is running happily at 450 but I did try earlier today to
> up the multiplier to 5x to run it at 500MHz and the machine failed to
> boot.

My P3 450MHz is running quite happily at 540MHz with a bus speed of 40MHz.
Don't kid yourself about a K6-3 being faster than a P3, it isn't. The only
thing AMD have that outperforms a P3 is the Athlon, but there are still
compatibility issues with some of the more obscure MMX instructions on it.

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MD: Quality of Digital Out on CDROM

1999-11-27 Thread Julien Blaise (E-coli)


I have a sound card with an optical output (Guillemot maxi sound
fortissimo).
I have connected the digital out of my CDROM to the SPDIF_IN on the
sound card, and everything works, I get the track marks, etc

I just want to know if there is a difference of quality of the digital
out between different CDROMs, because my CDROM is a 8X Goldstar
(GCD-R580B) and perhaps it would be better to buy a new one :)

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