Re: MD: Sony MD discam (OT)

1999-11-30 Thread Kade Hansson


At 09:59 AM 11/30/99 +0100, RS wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Funnily enough, just as audio MDs are sawn-off CD-RWs, MD-Data2 discs are
>> sawn of DVD-RWs.
>
>Ahh
>
>Than I must have been wrong I always thoughed MD used MO technology and
>that CD-RW used some sort of other technology that doesn't require a
>magnetic field during writing.

Smart ass... Tosser..

Look Ralph, it was a throw away line, but if you insist, CD-RW is, from
what I have read, a magneto-optical format from the Orange Book (CD) standard:

Orange Book Standard

-   Announced in 1990 to address the new recordable optical media and
provide specifications for incremental writes. 
-   Divided into 2 parts, Compact Disc-Magneto Optical (CD-MO) and
-   Compact Disc-Write Once (CD-WO) 
-   Covers Multi-session discs, such as the Kodak Photo CD. 

Now, because I don't use rewritable CD media, and have no practical
experience with CD-RW, I have always assumed that CD-MO was CD-RW. Please
tell me if I am wrong, but I do ask that you adopt a much less
condescending and patronising tone in future.

All the documentation I have read on MiniDisc media seems to indicate that
it is heavily based on the CD standards. After all, why reinvent the wheel.
Hence my statement that MD1 is sawn-off (i.e. a smaller) CD-RW (meaning
CD-MO from Orange Book).

>Seriously, you can't compare MDs with CD-RWs since the underlying technology
>is completly different.

If you say so, Ralph. I certainly agree there is more than one way to
implement a rewritable CD. But I had always assumed CD-RW was magneto-optical.

>MD-Data2 is a 'high-density' MD-Data disc. It's an
>evolution. DVD is however a evolution of CD (make CD double-sided, double
>layered and increase the density).

Oh, and MDData2 just happened along coincidentally at the same time as we
figured out how to pack more onto an optical disc. To say the two are not
related is farce. I'd be willing to bet that the MD2 specs bear striking
resemblance to DVD specs, just as the MD1 specs bear striking resemblance
to Orange Book (CD) specs.

>I suppose that DVD-RAM is based on the same principles as CD-RW.

No, clearly not. Every single format is completely different and
constructed in a vacuum from scratch. I bow to your superior intellect, Mr
Smeets.

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Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #439 - Automatic Reply

1999-11-30 Thread Hannes Rohde


Hi!

Hmm, is it just me or is the idea of receiving this every day
until January, 2nd a little disturbing? :-))

Mark Holmes (or rather his email program) wrote:

> I'm on leave until 2 Jan.  Please contact Ade Morris (AMORR x3553)
> for PAFS problems or Jeffrey Bowman/Jason Hiscocks (JBOWM x4394,
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MD: Minidisc at Sears Reback

1999-11-30 Thread J. Coon


I just got a Sears Department store xmass flyer in the mail.   Low and
behold, they have a SOny R37 shown for $299.99 and  Sony? MXDD3 for
$399.99.  They say the MXDD3 is "All-in-one CD-to-mini disc  (sic)
recorder is feature packed."   


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MD: New to MD

1999-11-30 Thread Dbeman


Well, I finally took the plunge.  I'm awaiting the arrival of my Sharp 
Portable MiniDisc Player MDS301 and I have a few questions to ask while I'm 
waiting.

My computer is a laptop with 2 PC card slots (one of which is being used for 
my modem.)  Is there a PC card I can buy that will allow me to record my MP3 
files onto minidisc?  If so, where would I get one?

Looking forward to taking part in this list!

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Re: MD: zoltrix Nightingale sound card with optical in/out

1999-11-30 Thread PrinceGaz


Cheers,
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From: "J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thanks Rick, I missed the reveiw when it came out, but the card was
> selling here in a local clone dealer for about $15 to $18 US as I
> recall.  I shoulda got that instead of the SB live value.  The sb live
> value is a great card, mind you, but it loads about 6 megs into memory
> each time you boot the computer.  so my puny 32 meg system slowed down
> to a crawl as it paged everything to the hard drive that now had only
> 270 megs left available on it.  I ended up having to increase the memory
> to 64 megs and replacing the 1.8 gig HD with a 6.4 gig.

Please guys, dont flame me for another PC h/ware posting!

I got a SB Live Player 1024 and was wondering what was eating 2-3MB
of RAM.  I only have 32MB as well and it's made an awful difference.  I was
thinking the Creative S3 Savage4 card was the culprit but from this it is
almost certainly the soundcard.  Does ne1 know a way to stop the SB
Live Player 1024 from grabbing RAM as current memory prices rule out
my getting that 128MB PC100 DIMM :-(

Apart from that though, it's a wonderful card-- the analog line-out sounds
damned good, the SB16 emulation works fine with everything I've tested
it with to date, though it did stop me overclocking the PCI bus speed from
33 to 37MHz which really disappointed me.  Esp as the videocard was
still happy at 44MHz as far as I could tell!

Again I apologise for off-topic PC stuff postings, pls just delete this if
you are annoyed.  Please.

Cheers,
PrinceGaz -> I promise not to *start* new PC hardware threads.


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Re: MD: Overclocking - definitely OT

1999-11-30 Thread PrinceGaz


From: "Jeff DeMaagd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --- Magic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: PrinceGaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Just to re-assure the guy who wondered a couple of
> nights ago if I was still alive, yep I am, and so is
> my PC (which given my recent overclocking trials is
> perhaps surprising).  The AMD K6-3/400 chip in my
> machine is running happily at 450 but I did try
> earlier<<
>
> OOOH, a 13% speed increase.  Can you even notice it
> without timing something?

I run MAME [Multi Arcade Machine Emulator] and every ounce of CPU
power counts, and can be seen in the emulated game speed display.
Even a 10% difference could be useful.  The videocard counts too of
course, indeed it's as important as the CPU I reckon.

> > My P3 450MHz is running quite happily at 540MHz with
> a bus speed of 40MHz.<
>
> Typo?  Still, it is only a 20% speed increase.
>
> > Don't kid yourself about a K6-3 being faster than a
> P3, it isn't.<
>
> Um, Duh.  But then, don't kid yourself into thinking
> Intel had the fastest CPU on the market.  It isn't
> even near the top five, neither is AMD.  I've had a
> _real_ 500MHz CPU running before Intel figured out how
> to clock at 350 safely.
>
> Now can we get on topic before we have a public
> flogging?  There are other lists to discuss your
> little PCs.

Quite right, whoever plagues this list by starting these threads ought
to be punished.  I do wonder wot you ran on your old 500MHz chip-
was it Intel compatible or some dubious Mac or worse type thing?

Cheers,
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Re: MD: Quality of Digital Out on CDROM

1999-11-30 Thread Jeff DeMaagd


I thought the question was digital out on audio
playback, not 'ripping' in the sense that others were
saying.  As others have said, for digital tech, if you
don't have problems with what you have, you don't need
to upgrade.  If your CD player can't get around some
scratches that it should or does not have digital out,
upgrade it.

I have no problem with people buying Plextors, I would
buy one if I needed a new CD
player/burner/ripper/whatever, if you are going to
spend money to get an improvement, you might as well
go as much improvement as you can afford.

--- "S derman,_Lars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   Someone wrote:
>> Ripped data does not go down the digigal audio
link, and audio playback is so "slow" that the disc
would need to be seriously damaged for error
correction to begin to fail.

>   Fifth: Remember that Audio CDs have one less level
of error correction than data CDs. Thats one reason
why we need the Plextors when ripping. :-)

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Re: MD: scms

1999-11-30 Thread David W. Tamkin


Simon Mackay wrote,

| The MDS-W1 double-MD deck and some CD-MD combo decks have an analogue
| fallback path where the signal is recorded as an analogue signal through
| this path or as a digital-direct signal.

Right.  That of the W1 is buggy, though: it looks at only the is-a-copy bit
and not at the copyright bit, so given SCMS-unlimited material, it makes an
analog transfer.  It offers other ways to copy from one disc to another that
do follow the full SCMS specification, though, so it's easily worked around.

| Also the SCMS firmware may support an extra copy generation when the digital
| source is a digital broadcast receiver such as a digital satellite tuner or
| DAB tuner. This exception is well documented with Sony digital-recording
| decks in their SCMS explanation page; and with Philips DCC decks (because of
| the DSR system that was being promoted in Europe at the time of the DCC).

Some people with digital receivers, notably Ralf Kuchenhart, tried to look
into that and to figure out the difference between tuners that allow an extra
generation and those that do not (Sony's diagram in MD recorder manuals that
explains SCMS acknowledges that the second-generation copy is not possible
with some tuners), and no one came up with the answer.  There is no SCMS
value that means `antepenultimate'; the penultimate MD recordings made from
satellite broadcasts have something to do with the source medium code or with
the sampling rate conversion.

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RE: MD: MD to SB(value) transfer

1999-11-30 Thread Remko van der Vossen


> > can't do it 'cause the porty doesn't have a digital out.
>
>Yes it does--the line out doubles as an optical-out.

No it doesn't, http://www.minidisc.org/mz-r30.html

>I thought I had heard talk of an aftermarket product you could jack into a
>port on the card that had the necessary ins/outs?

There are third party converters, but you can easily build one yourself, or 
let someone with some electronics knowledge build it, just look for some 
schematics on http://www.minidisc.org


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RE: MD: MD to SB(value) transfer

1999-11-30 Thread Rick Pali


From: Thomas, Ferris

> > can't do it 'cause the porty doesn't have a digital out.
>
> Yes it does--the line out doubles as an optical-out.

Just out of curiosity, which model is this? I've never heard of a portable
with an optical out besides that very first Sony...

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MD: JVC XM-R70

1999-11-30 Thread matthew c. mead


I'm considering purchasing this.  It will be my first portable
recorder.  Does anyone know if you can manually set recording
levels or if the only option for recording is automatic gain
control?  Thanks!



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MD: Koss in the UK /702 headphone amp

1999-11-30 Thread Alan Dowds


Hello

Does anyone know a Koss dealer in Britain? I want to get some of their
earphones to use with my 702.

Also, can anyone recommend a good headphone amp to use with the 702?

Cheers,

Alan

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Re: MD: MD to SB(value) transfer

1999-11-30 Thread J. Coon


I'm sorry, but I had one and the line out doubles as an OPTICAL IN, not
an optical out.   Off hand, I don't know of any current porty that has
an optical out.  

Thomas, Ferris wrote:
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: J. Coon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 4:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: MD: MD to SB(value) transfer
> >
> >
> > can't do it 'cause the porty doesn't have a digital out.
> 
> Yes it does--the line out doubles as an optical-out.
> 
> I thought I had heard talk of an aftermarket product you could jack into a
> port on the card that had the necessary ins/outs?
> 
> F.S. Thomas
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Re: MD: zoltrix Nightingale sound card with optical in/out

1999-11-30 Thread J. Coon


Thanks Rick, I missed the reveiw when it came out, but the card was
selling here in a local clone dealer for about $15 to $18 US as I
recall.  I shoulda got that instead of the SB live value.  The sb live
value is a great card, mind you, but it loads about 6 megs into memory
each time you boot the computer.  so my puny 32 meg system slowed down
to a crawl as it paged everything to the hard drive that now had only
270 megs left available on it.  I ended up having to increase the memory
to 64 megs and replacing the 1.8 gig HD with a 6.4 gig.  

Maybe if I had seen this Zoltrix, I wouldn't have had to mess with all
that.   

Eric Woudenberg wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> "J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Any one familiar with the Zoltrix Nightingale Optical PCI sound
> > card?  [...]  They were selling them for a pretty low price at a
> > local computer store.  Less than $30 for the sound card.  I
> > don'tknow if they had the optical.
> 
> Calum Tsang posted a review of it last week in:
> http://www.minidisc.org/zoltrix.html
> 
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RE: MD: MD to SB(value) transfer

1999-11-30 Thread Thomas, Ferris


> -Original Message-
> From: J. Coon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: MD: MD to SB(value) transfer
> 
> 
> can't do it 'cause the porty doesn't have a digital out.   

Yes it does--the line out doubles as an optical-out.

I thought I had heard talk of an aftermarket product you could jack into a
port on the card that had the necessary ins/outs?

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Re: MD: Sony MD discam (OT)

1999-11-30 Thread Ralph Smeets


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> Funnily enough, just as audio MDs are sawn-off CD-RWs, MD-Data2 discs are
> sawn of DVD-RWs.

Ahh

Than I must have been wrong I always thoughed MD used MO technology and
that CD-RW used some sort of other technology that doesn't require a
magnetic field during writing.

Seriously, you can't compare MDs with CD-RWs since the underlying technology
is completly different. MD-Data2 is a 'high-density' MD-Data disc. It's an
evolution. DVD is however a evolution of CD (make CD double-sided, double
layered and increase the density). I suppose that DVD-RAM is based on the
same principles as CD-RW.

Cheers,
Ralph -> ..

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