MD: MiniDisc Weekly News for 16 January 2000
MiniDisc Community Pages News for 9 January 2000 o Benny Chan finds the [1]Aiwa AM-F70 for $200 at Tweeter (search for "amf70"). [1] http://www.tweeter.com MiniDisc Community Pages News for 11 January 2000 o Laurence Lee spots Sony's photo and Japanese announcement of their [1]MZ-E7W wireless remote MD walkman, allowing wristwatch based control and display operations. (See English [2]machine translation ). [1] http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/CorporateCruise/Press/21/00-0111/ [2] http://www.minidisc.org/mz_e7w_trans.html o Last year, ASC and the London College of Printing made a joint venture to [3]equip student journalists with MZ-R37 recorders. [3] http://www.audio.demon.co.uk/asc%26lcp.html o Another good price: Milton Meinhardt finds the [4]Aiwa CSD-MD50 boombox for $200 at JR. [4] http://www.jandr.com/oasis/bin/objectbuilder.dll?MAX_SEQ_NUM=1&EXEC_SEQ_1=OB_RPC%2cJANDR_GetDisplayInfo_USR%2c@remote_user%2c@Product_Id%2c@Mode%2c+%2c+%2c+%2cd%3a/http/oasis/displays/primary/primary.tem%2cd%3a/http/error.tem&Mode=0&Product_Id=375.0&SQL_TYPE_Product_Id=SQLNUMERIC&SQL_TYPE_Mode=SQLINT4 o [5]MiniDiscussion.com, our official discussion board, gets a complete facelift. [5] http://www.minidiscussion.com MiniDisc Community Pages News for 12 January 2000 o A friend sends in [1]photos of the Sony MZ-E7W wristwatch remote. [1] http://www.minidisc.org/mz_e7w_photos.html o Moore finds ZDNet's mention of the [2]Sony MZ-R90's February arrival in the US (near the middle of the page). [2] http://equip.zdnet.com/gear/sporttech/feature/ces/index_2_1.html MiniDisc Community Pages News for 13 January 2000 o Mikhail Grigoriev points out Panasonic's unusual looking [1]SC-PM50MD mini-compo system, and T-station gives it [2]English coverage. He also finds Panasonic's Japanese announcement of their [3]RX-MDX5 boombox. [1] http://www.panasonic.co.jp/avc/audio/web/pick_up/p_compo/p_compo.html [2] http://www.t-station.net/products/pana_scpm50md.html [3] http://www.panasonic.co.jp/avc/audio/web/pick_up/mdx5/mdx5.html o Hans Henrik Bune spots a German testing institute's summary results for [4]9 modern MD recorders. [4] http://www.warentest.de/wtest/plsql/sw_kompass.anzeige?kontaktnr=0&va_inh_id=16875&zeitschrift=t o Zach Zaletel finds the [5]Sharp MD-MS722 for $150 (after rebate and gift certificate [exp. 1/28]) at Shopping.com. [5] http://store.altavista.com/store/product.sdc?p=10585092 MiniDisc Community Pages News for 14 January 2000 o MP3.com begins a beta [1]Music Provider Service. They have 45,000 CDs available for streaming after you show you own the CD. You do this by 1) placing the CD in your CD-ROM drive and using their "Beam-it" software, or 2) purchasing the CD through one of their associated e-tailers. [1] http://www.mp3.com/news/518.html?hparticle1 MiniDisc Community Pages News for 16 January 2000 o Ilwoong Pyo points out Casio's photos and Japanese announcement of their [1]MP3 player wristwatch. Due out in April, the unit holds 32MB of audio and can be loaded via USB port (each 4 minute track taking 70 seconds). [1] http://www.casio.co.jp/productnews/wqv_1_wmp_1v.html Q: Isn't it true, Mr. President, that you purchase all your MiniDisc gear from Minidisco.com? A: No comment. http://www.minidisco.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: quality of optical cables
>>> Stainless Steel Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/17 11:54 am >>> > > Well, there is the problem that 2.5mm anything is totally alien to the > audio world, Nope have a look around at most dictation equipment and you'll find a lot of 2.5mm stuff (I have at least 2 items). 2.5mm is also being used in mobile phone communications - (hands free kits and car kits) granted it's not really "audio" related. > whereas the optical miniplug can be easilly integrated with > the very common 1/8" stereo minijack. So, when the issue is space, one > jack that can do two things is preferable to two separate jacks. I do agree here multi use plugs do serve you well when space is a premium (like on portable equipment). CheersGC PS: Does anyone know the history of the 1/8th (3.5mm - actually 3.175mm if it was 1/8") and 1/4" (6.3mm) jacks ? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: quality of optical cables
* "Magic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 16 Jan 2000 | 2.5mm mono jacks are even smaller and could transfer TTL SPDIF without any | problems at all. Well, there is the problem that 2.5mm anything is totally alien to the audio world, whereas the optical miniplug can be easilly integrated with the very common 1/8" stereo minijack. So, when the issue is space, one jack that can do two things is preferable to two separate jacks. -- Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\ Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ unknown glowing substance which fell to PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ Earth, presumably from outer space. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ultra-low Bass (was: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors)
Just for yucks, here are the specs on the aforementioned BassCube 8: Amplifier Power (at 100Hz, <.5% THD): 50 watts Driver Size: 8 inches Sensitivity for full output at 100Hz, Subwoofer Level at maximum, Low Pass set at 200Hz: Line Level Input (monoaural), milivolts: 95 Speaker Level Inputs (stereo), milivolts: 250 Low Pass Filter Response, Low Pass set at 200Hz: 24dB/Octave Frequency Response, Hz (+/- 3dB): 80Hz setting 40-100Hz 100Hz setting 40-110Hz 120Hz setting 40-120Hz 160Hz setting 42-160Hz 200Hz setting 42-200Hz -- Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: optical cords!
From: Magic > > can anyone ACTUALLY tell the difference between > > the cheap recoton optical cords and the expensive > > sony and monster cable cords > > Guess what... you're just paying for the name brand. I'd hope that the end connectors and general quality of construction are better as well. I definitely will pay more to get better quality than the cable that came with my 520...but only because I figure that paying more now will prevent me having to completely replace it later, perhaps more than once. I believe that they certainly do sound the same, but I will pay more for a generally better made cable. That said, I won't go near the crazy prices for the 'high end' (read: snake oil) cables that promise the world. Rick. -+--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alienshore.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors
Stainless Steel Rat wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > * "Magic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 16 Jan 2000 > | Well so far I haven't found one that will reproduce tones below 15Hz, so I > | doubt that will make much difference. > > As I just posted, I checked my BassCube 8. It bottoms at 80Hz, not 20Hz. > What I get for posting without checking. I may be wrong, but I think when it says it bottoms and 80Hz, that 80Hz is the point it is 3db down on the response curve. It is still responsive to the lower frequencies, but not as responsive. Jim Coon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: having optical connections in portables (was quality of optical cables)
The rodent scratched, > Practicality: optical jacks are significantly smaller than the RCA jacks > digital coax uses, making it a preference for portable equipment. Matt responded: | 2.5mm mono jacks are even smaller and could transfer TTL SPDIF without any | problems at all. Neither an RCA jack nor a 2.5mm mono jack for TTL S/PDIF can double as a stereo analog jack. A 3.5mm optical jack can. (Are there even such things as 2.5mm stereo jacks and plugs?) Now, certainly a 3.5mm mono plug could also carry TTL S/PDIF, but then how would the recording unit sense whether the incoming electrical signal is supposed to be S/PDIF or analog audio? (I think somebody brought that up before.) So I'm guessing that the only kind of digital receptable that can share quarters with analog stereo is a 3.5mm optical minijack. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: quality of optical cables
From: Stainless Steel Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: MD-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: Re: MD: quality of optical cables > Practicality: optical jacks are significantly smaller than the RCA jacks > digital coax uses, making it a preference for portable equipment. 2.5mm mono jacks are even smaller and could transfer TTL SPDIF without any problems at all. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ripping CD's to MP3 ?
It is very simple to do. Download Audiocatalyst from http://www.xingtech.com. Then put CD in CD drive so progam will read track list and song lengths. Next uncheck all tracks but track #1. Right click on last track and select properties. Under sectors write down last sector number. You will modify track #1 to end at this sector. Then right click on track #1. Select properties and chand end sector to mathe the end sector of the last track. Hit grab and be done. - Original Message - From: "Andy Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 1:56 AM Subject: MD: Ripping CD's to MP3 ? > > I know that this isn't probably the best place to ask this but hey you all > do it ;) > > Anyone know if it's possible to extract a multitrack CD into one MP3 ? For > example you have a "live" CD that all blends into one, but has track > markers. I've tried using some CDtoMP3 programs but they seem to insist on > seperating the tracks. > > TIA > > Andy > > - > To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word > "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: AIWA CSD-MD50 Atrac?
> As I'm very nearly a student (gap-year sorta thing) I'm looking for > somewhere that sells a nicely priced mini-bookshelf system WITH > a minidisc > system in it. Have any of you lot FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM seen anything? > Oi'm currently saving up. Cheers! > > Edd > > "I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me > than a full frontal lobotomy" Dixons have a JVC CD/MD micro system (very very small) for 200 pounds. Sorry, can't remember the model number. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: AIWA CSD-MD50 Atrac?
As I'm very nearly a student (gap-year sorta thing) I'm looking for somewhere that sells a nicely priced mini-bookshelf system WITH a minidisc system in it. Have any of you lot FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM seen anything? Oi'm currently saving up. Cheers! Edd "I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy" Hi - Does anyone know what ATRAC version the AIWA CSD-MD50 mini-bookshelf system uses? By the way, J&R Music has it for $199.99. CD, cassette, MD - a nice sounding unit for the money, in my opinion. Thanks, Jerry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Sharp MD-MT831 docking cradle comments?
Rick says: <<>> Some people haven't found the docking cradle useful at all or may think it's really not worth it. I find it useful for several reasons. For one, you don't have to unplug the ac adapter plug every time to remove the unit. Instead you just lift the unit off the docking cradle and you're done. Secondly, with the docking cradle, you put less wear and tear on the ac adapter connection. My old Sony MZ-R30's ac adapter connection broke and became loose after several years of unpluging and plugging. Since the cradle comes with the unit, it's well worth it in my opinion. If I had to pay for it, it's unlikely that I would pay extra to get it. I would like to see Sharp add more connections on it though. Such connections I would like are: headphone out/line out, and line in. If these were on there, it would definitely be worth it. Regards, Robert www.mdreviews.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: quality of optical cables
At 16:14 16/01/00 +, you wrote: > > Coax is a lot cheaper... other than that... no. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > Magic > >I think another major factor may be to keep things straightforward. On a >portable, where all the jacks are 3.5mm, it makes sense to keep the digital >input as different as possible from the analogue. > >Thus people remember: > >Thin cables with red light light at the end = digital >Metal jack plug with thick cable = analogue > >If you were doing electrical SP/DIF on a 3.5mm jack, imagine the potential >confusion :) > >-- >Simon Interestingly enough, my Philips DCC portable has only one 3.5mm jack input socket, which can take line, mic, co-ax S/PDIF and optical S/PDIF. There is a switch to select line/mic H/mic L/mic auto, and co-ax S/PDIF uses a jack plug with 4 contacts on it instead of the usual 3. I think this is far a far better method than my Sharp 722 MD portable, or any other portable for that matter, as it allows maximum flexibility and choice - optical cables are expensive and unneccessary - just another gadget to get you to spend more cash :-) The DCC also has line out and optical digital out on the same socket (but no co-ax digital out), and has a separate headphone socket. Cheers, Wrighty - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: quality of optical cables
At 20:15 15/01/00 -0800, you wrote: >I stand corrected. The SPDIF signal is indeed different. > >Ok everybody - forget the experiment (but do send pictures of your >gold-plated optical connectors). I'll try and get some for you all to laugh at :-) I think they're made by Van Damme who make high quality cables and connectors, so god knows what they're doing making gold plated optical leads!! >Grover > >- >To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word >"unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Xitel pc sound card in windows 2000
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Re: MD: quality of optical cables
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * "Alan Dowds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 16 Jan 2000 | All this discussion about optical cables has got me thinking. Why use an | optical cable for digital audio connections at all? Practicality: optical jacks are significantly smaller than the RCA jacks digital coax uses, making it a preference for portable equipment. | I know they are impervious to electromagnetic interference, but is that | really such a problem in a cable less than a metre long? And since the | transmission is digital, is the lack of interference so crucial? My | computer, which transmits loads of data down SCSI, IDE, even parallel and | phone cables, gets by fine with plain old wires. Computer information protocols have "retry on error" mechanism. S/P-DIF does not. Either you have a sufficiently "clean" connection for data, or you get nothing at all. TOSlink does not provide error correction per se; it provides a connection that does not require error correction. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4ggkhgl+vIlSVSNkRAl+gAKCaepzYeeAghf5YkRauBFq8vvw+YACgykgt yPsQxxnh8rQC8aBu7PTrMb8= =hQsW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\ Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ accelerate to dangerous speeds. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * "Magic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 16 Jan 2000 | Well so far I haven't found one that will reproduce tones below 15Hz, so I | doubt that will make much difference. As I just posted, I checked my BassCube 8. It bottoms at 80Hz, not 20Hz. What I get for posting without checking. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4ggeRgl+vIlSVSNkRAlYWAKDd1h2tzvNgOXgLQxupkGhkRVZcbQCfcpub nLk/5zizfLtleAeO0be/Ays= =VORC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Ultra-low Bass (was: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Cambridge SoundWorks "BassCube 8" (which I recently purchased) has a bottom end of 80Hz. Explosions make it rumble quite a bit, but music barely makes it twitch. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4ggdJgl+vIlSVSNkRArP3AJ4tvzqJxoh1VWtn3L7Xevf7984GswCeM71m pWnJrVBsJk0O6eNdJ3vkxeA= =0ZCT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\ Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ of skin. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: quality of optical cables
Simon Gardner wrote: > I think another major factor may be to keep things straightforward. On a > portable, where all the jacks are 3.5mm, it makes sense to keep the digital > input as different as possible from the analogue. > > Thus people remember: > > Thin cables with red light light at the end = digital > Metal jack plug with thick cable = analogue > > If you were doing electrical SP/DIF on a 3.5mm jack, imagine the potential > confusion :) As it is, a couple of times I made a mistake and plugged a mike into the optical input on my R30 and was real disappointed after recording for an hour to find that I had 20 blank tracks. :( -- Jim Coon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Martin Danek's PC titling software
do i need to get a pc if i want to do titling. any mac friendly software? brynmore __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: AIWA CSD-MD50 Atrac?
Hi - Does anyone know what ATRAC version the AIWA CSD-MD50 mini-bookshelf system uses? By the way, J&R Music has it for $199.99. CD, cassette, MD - a nice sounding unit for the money, in my opinion. Thanks, Jerry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: quality of optical cables
> > Is it something to do with Toslink error correction, or is it > just a fun > new > > tech for all the first adopters amongst us? > > It sounds cool, it sells better. > > > Is there really much difference > > between optical and co-ax digital connections in home audio use? > > Coax is a lot cheaper... other than that... no. > > Hope this helps! > > Magic I think another major factor may be to keep things straightforward. On a portable, where all the jacks are 3.5mm, it makes sense to keep the digital input as different as possible from the analogue. Thus people remember: Thin cables with red light light at the end = digital Metal jack plug with thick cable = analogue If you were doing electrical SP/DIF on a 3.5mm jack, imagine the potential confusion :) -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors
From: Stainless Steel Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: MD-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 4:03 AM Subject: Re: MD: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors > Correct, but somewhat misleading. Ordinary speakers, even the best, don't > go that low, because below about 20Hz it is more a matter of feeling than > hearing. > > That is why we have self-amplified super subwoofers. Well so far I haven't found one that will reproduce tones below 15Hz, so I doubt that will make much difference. Introducing inaccurately reproduced sub-bass sounds seems to me like a way to reduce quality and introduce destruction What's the resonant frequency of the average house wall.. ? Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Odp: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors
From: Maciej Rutkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 12:36 AM Subject: MD: Odp: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors > well, right - I forgot about the good speakers thing. > I've got a pair of good speakers(tannoy to be more exact), but the amplifier > is a disaster but still I was able to actually see a 10Hz wave produced by > my good old Gravis Ultrasound MAX card. :) NOt bad speakers Tannoy.. I have a set of 4 mercury M3s that I use on my sound card. Surround sound is great! I have 2 Rotel RA940 amps to drive them. Perhaps somewhat sensibly, the amp prevents DC current from moving the cones, so when I got to 12Hz the system cut in and stopped all flow to the speakers. The cones moved, but I couldn't feel anything until I hit about 25-30Hz when I felt a slight breeze. Given the power of the speakers and amp combo, I think you would need about a 20kW system before a 1Hz tone would make any difference. > Why ultrasound emitters? Most nice tweeters exceed even 40kHz freqs! What do > you think they have such specs for? Marketing. Name me one piece of audio technology you have that can actually produce a frequency that high, other than a frequency generator. Also, because the response is not linear in a speaker, it is often necessary to have a unit capable of exceeding the top frequency you want to ensure accurate reproduction. Just because a speaker can make a 40kHz tone, does not mean it can do so as responsively or accurately as it can reproduce the 22kHz tone you are after. > OK, so maybe one can't hear a difference between the cd and md with a pair > of desktop speakers... Depends on your desktop speakers mine are quite good... although for practicality I put them on the floor with speaker stands - they take up way too much space on the desk. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: quality of optical cables
From: Alan Dowds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 12:37 PM Subject: RE: MD: quality of optical cables > Herro, Herro dair... > All this discussion about optical cables has got me thinking. Why use an > optical cable for digital audio connections at all? Marketing. Optical technology sounds more technical and clever, so it gives the equipment a futuristic quality. > I know they are > impervious to electromagnetic interference, but is that really such a > problem in a cable less than a metre long? Given the 10m coax cable running own the wall cavity of my house connecting the HiFi system downstairs to the computer system upstairs, it's not really a consideratoin for home audio at all. I made a 2-way connection including a relay that lets me use my remote control upstairs (reciever upstaris, transmitter in Hi-Fi cab downstairs) for £20. The fibre optic alone would have set me back about £80, and that's without any of the specialist tools needed to make the connectors. > And since the transmission is > digital, is the lack of interference so crucial? If I were in an industrial factory, yes. I've yet to have my thermostat or central heating prevent me enjoying my music. If I did get a click sound it would probably be a mains spike to the amp that would be the cause, not interference with digital interconnects. > My computer, which > transmits loads of data down SCSI, IDE, even parallel and phone cables, gets > by fine with plain old wires. Yep, as do the majority of satellites and communications equipment. Take the BBCs television transmitters for example - no fibre optic there, yet the picture quality is great! > Is it something to do with Toslink error correction, or is it just a fun new > tech for all the first adopters amongst us? It sounds cool, it sells better. > Is there really much difference > between optical and co-ax digital connections in home audio use? Coax is a lot cheaper... other than that... no. Hope this helps! Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors
If you have money to burn ... set up a nice little experiment with the best speakers you deem fit. Produce a 1 Hz sine wave and play it through your amplifier to your speaker. Watch the pretty woofer cone move in and out in once per second. Then turn it up to the loud volumes that most people listen their favourite song to and keep your nose active. Why? Because you'll smell the friggin' coil burning Fact is, you're getting damn close to DC and that's a speaker coil's major killer. That's why distortion kills speakers ... because the amplifier is reaching its maximum output and is clipping and therefore pumping DC rather than AC to your speaker at those peaks. So let's all think realistically here. The bass you "feel" is usually at around 80Hz for the kick off a kick drum. Anything lower than that may give you a nice rumbling feeling, but even then, you don't really need to go any lower than 20Hz and yes, even those super duper subwoofers can go subsonic, but not ridiculously low either. Usually, 30Hz is the norm for a good subbie, as experienced by my Soundstream Exact 12" in the car. I could always port it to extend the bottom end to around 25Hz but there really is nothing to be gained from that, personally. Furthermore, subbies that are just made to kick and to wake up the whole neighbourhood, while sacrificing a little bit of accuracy, don't go any lower than 20Hz as Magic previously mentioned. So while we can still reproduce frequencies below 20Hz, it is truly pointless from an auditory sense, but also from a technical perspective. No speaker coil would survive that unless it was a massive coil, with massive power handling and massive amounts of cooling! If you want infrasonic frequencies, then get a sofa that rumbles with the movie you're watching. But if you want that kind of thing out of a musical piece, get a life. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stainless Steel Rat Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2000 15:04 To: MD-L Subject:Re: MD: Odp: ATRAC-R and Laser Colors -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * "Magic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 15 Jan 2000 | But I have yet to find speakers that can reproduce a 1Hz tone, so why record | it if it can't be reproduced. Very few speakers even go as low aas 20Hz, so | that isn't being reproduced much either! Correct, but somewhat misleading. Ordinary speakers, even the best, don't go that low, because below about 20Hz it is more a matter of feeling than hearing. That is why we have self-amplified super subwoofers. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hi-Space Disc Problems?
In a message dated 1/14/00 1:08:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /|\/|\ Hi-Space is probably a good bet... /|\/|\ I've got some Hi-Space reds, and I've never had any problem with them. The one anomoly I've encountered with Hi-Space discs is the disc getting stuck in the flimsy plastic cover sleeve. On one I just opened today, a little tab inside broke and now the disc won't sit snug in the cover. D'oh! /|\/|\ does anyone have experience with the Axia discs from MiniDisco.com? The ones from Japan that have Hello Kitty or other cool designs on them? /|\/| \ Yes! I love them. I have a Hello Kitty disc and two packs of the Axia slim line discs... They're pretty well made, I think. Maybe a notch below the "sturdy" feeling of the Sonys+Maxells but better than my TDK music jacks and Hi-Spaces for "sturdiness" -- not that it means anything. ;-) ~Zach http://start.at/cens - The Cutting Edge of Nothing Significant - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: quality of optical cables
Herro, All this discussion about optical cables has got me thinking. Why use an optical cable for digital audio connections at all? I know they are impervious to electromagnetic interference, but is that really such a problem in a cable less than a metre long? And since the transmission is digital, is the lack of interference so crucial? My computer, which transmits loads of data down SCSI, IDE, even parallel and phone cables, gets by fine with plain old wires. Is it something to do with Toslink error correction, or is it just a fun new tech for all the first adopters amongst us? Is there really much difference between optical and co-ax digital connections in home audio use? Questions, questions Alan (who as a journalist is more than happy to be corrected by one of the techier list members...) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of P. Grover Cleveland Sent: 16 January 2000 04:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: quality of optical cables I stand corrected. The SPDIF signal is indeed different. Ok everybody - forget the experiment (but do send pictures of your gold-plated optical connectors). Grover - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Recording MD to Computer CD-R
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === Does anyone have a quick tutorial on how to record MD to a computer CD-R drive? I realize this has been covered before, but I searched the archives and can't seem to get the right info. Anyway, my soundcard only has analog in, so I would be going that route. Let's say I want to record onto CD-R a particular album from my portable MD connected to my analog in on the soundcard (Xitel Storm). Would I need to make each individual song from my disc a WAV file (would be using MusicMatch Jukebox for this) and then turn around and burn these individually onto CD-R? I guess one problem I forsee is the inability for the software to recognize silent periods between songs, therefore not automatically starting a new WAV file for the each song. That would be a pain having to individually start and stop each song from the MD album in order to separate WAVs which would be burned as separate tracks on the CD-R. Any software out there than can help alleviate the pain in that respect (possibly free)? Maybe I can only record the entire MD to one big 'ole WAV file and then try to splice it up to get my individual songs, I am sure software for that ain't free. I will be getting the CD-R in a couple of days, so I am trying to get ready for the transfers. Thanks for the advice- Mitch - Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
