MD: MDS-JE510 trransport: repair or trash it?

2001-02-01 Thread John Small


The transport on my 510 has jammed.  Happened when I inserted an MD this evening
just when I was feeling all smug that my Sony MD equipment has been working
flawlessly (510, R50, E40).  When I remove the top from the unit I can see al
arge plastic gear on the top back left hand side in the transport cage that is
spinning but not moving anything ... it makes a racheting sound as it spins,
like gears stripping.  I was able to force the MD out with a screw driver.  It
will not insert.  I assume this transport is shot.  Is this a common failure
mode ... anyone know?

I am assuming Sony repair is out of the question.  I recall they want a flat
$100 to fix?  That plus maybe parts will buy a newer unit with something beyond
ATRAC 4.5 encoding.  The unit is three years old but it has not seen much use.
Maybe 40 recordings and 100-200 plays.

I want another deck in my hi fi system but here's the rub ... I want the toslink
optical digital in and out this deck offers.  I don't believe the 330, 440 or
the 4x speed DX3 decks offer optical digital out.  Buying a high end Sony deck
is not something I'm willing to do to obtain this connection.  However I am
concerned about getting another cheesy tranport as well!

Anyone have any suggestions on either repairing this deck or which model to
consider for replacement?  I should noted that I no longer record from analog
(mostly vinyl) with this deck.  I now do that with a cd-rw deck (Philips 950)
and then digitally dub to the MD deck.

Thanks.

-jts 
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Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??

2001-02-01 Thread dattier


Larry wrote,

| As long as MD is big in Japan and there is an internet, there will always
| be a source of MD gear and blanks at competitive prices.

But what about repair and service?  That is what concerns me.

For example, I just bought a JB940 by mail order, but the dealer is in the
US.  I can't buy one locally as far as I know, but I can get it serviced
nearby if something goes wrong.  It's not only a matter of the warranty;
it's a matter of a facility that has the parts and the service manuals and
staff who know, or can learn, what to do.

On the other hand, if c"s my W1 needs repair, it will have to be shipped to
Japan.  If MD dies in the US, we can still import blanks and accessories, but
what do we do for service?

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Re: MD: Unbalanced Pro format digital signal

2001-02-01 Thread dattier


Sorry for the delay; just got my computer back after six days in repair.

Matt followed up,

| With a JE520 in "-AD" monitor mode (no disc in it)

| It is resamplaing 32Khz & 48Khz inputs to 44.1Khz for its digital
| output.

Right.

| Will not output a 96Khz input signal.

OK.

| Also using a 44.1Khz input to the 520, with a Level 1 +/- 50ppm clock
| accuracy it's outputting
| 44.1Khz with a Level II +/- 1000ppm clock accuracy, along with adding
| the MD category code, changing the SCMS status etc..

As to resampling 44.1 to 44.1: hmm.
As to changing the category code, yes, I've seen that myself.
As to changing the SCMS status: HUH?  In my experience it does not.

| When in Record pause or recording (with a disc in the deck)
| The Input is been passed to the output without anything been changed.
| 96Khz signal is been passed through (output is 96Khz)

Interesting, since it can't handle that signal itself.

| The clock is that from the input

OK.

| Category code doesn't change to MD, SCMS is the same etc

That jibes with my experience.

Thanks for clearing that up, Matt.

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RE: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Kenneth Lee


As I know, the most important part on MD recording is the encoding part,
since the 940 use the type-R DSP on SP recorder, you are getting one of the
best encoding that was previously available on Sony ES deck only.
Concerning about the compatibility on previous generations of MD player, SP
recordings are 100% compatible, and can be reproduced on all MD equipments.

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:48:48 -0500, "Kenneth Lee"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Just tested out some recording on my new JB940
>last night.

What did you think about straight recording on the 940?  The quality
compared to
the source?  I'm looking closely at this one to replay a 520 that just went
out
tonight.  I am concerned about the 2x cost over the 440.  But if the sound
and
build quality are there I might go for it.

BTW, can you play back the 940 non-LP MD's on a prior generation player and
get
the same quality benefits?

Thanks.

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Re: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread las


John Small wrote:

> What did you think about straight recording on the 940?

I didn't realize that Md recorders had any sexual orientation preference.  I don't
think that straight recording will yield any results that are superior to gay
recording.

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MD: Senses fatigue

2001-02-01 Thread las


We are constantly talking about which "whatever" sounds better.  But we
have failed to consider that all of our senses (with the exception of
pain) fatigue.

The first sense to fatigue is olfactory (smell).  But hearing can't be
far down the line.  If you keep A/B testing the more you do it the more
difficult it becomes to tell one from the other.

When you are dealing with clear differences such as the sound from a TV
speaker compared with your home stereo system, even if you match the
volume, you would obviously have no problem distinguishing the
difference.

But when you are attempting to compare a CD with its digital copy, even
matching the volume perfectly, the more you listen the harder it will
become to tell the difference.  Even the slightest difference in volume
or eq will effect the results.

Slight differences that may or may not exist in reality between the two
can be compensated for with things such as eq adjustment anyway.  So I
really don't understand why we keep having these debates.

Larry





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Re: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread John Small


On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:48:48 -0500, "Kenneth Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Just tested out some recording on my new JB940
>last night.

What did you think about straight recording on the 940?  The quality compared to
the source?  I'm looking closely at this one to replay a 520 that just went out
tonight.  I am concerned about the 2x cost over the 440.  But if the sound and
build quality are there I might go for it.

BTW, can you play back the 940 non-LP MD's on a prior generation player and get
the same quality benefits?

Thanks.

-jts 
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Re: MD: PC ABX

2001-02-01 Thread Don Capps


From: "Churchill, Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The ultimate sound comparison site.

Yep. Great site isn't it Guy? It's amazing how many audiophile conventions
melt away like fog when exposed to the brutality of ABX comparisons.

Don C.

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Re: MD: PC connection with MDS-JB940

2001-02-01 Thread JT


On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Kenneth Lee wrote:

> Does anyone on the list have the
> similiar set up?  If so, can someone here let me know
> what's going on?  it certainly say that the JB940 is
> compatible with the PC kit.  Any help is appreciated,
> thanks.

I ordered the JB940 (it's in the mail), and from my understanding, it just
plugs into your USB port and one of the digital ins on the deck.

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong. :-)

Josh 

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RE: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Kenneth Lee


Yeah. I agree with this one.. Just tested out some recording on my new JB940
last night.. LP2 and SP is pretty much the same... but LP4 is a little
different, the two channels aren't quite separated as LP2 and SP.. however,
without comparison, I think it's quite difficult to tell the difference,
especially on the street.  So I still love to use LP4 on my walkman.

Ken

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Anthony Lalande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>First of all, "ease of editing" requires the proper editing hardware.
>If you compare the ease of editing on a MD Player/Recorder with the
>ease of editing on a computer hooked up to a CD burner, I'd pick the
>computer any day. MD brings simple editing to the masses, and
>computers bring power to the pros. I'm not saying your statement is
>wrong, but I don't think it's completely accurate either.

I personally call preparing songs for burning on a computer "creating" or
"preparing." IMO, "editing" is what you do with something after it's been
created.

CD can't be edited, MD can. If you burn a CD and later want to change it,
you have to redo it from scratch. In my book, MD blows CD away for
editing (and I say that as someone who has both MD and CD-R).

>Second, "long play modes". There are some CDs that can hold up to 80
>minutes of music. MDs can go beyond 80 minutes, but at the cost of
>audio quality ( mono mode or LP-2, LP-4, etc...).

Actually, from every report I've found, LP2 has sound very comparable to
standard MD when used as a portable medium.

>And of course if you want to sacrifice audio quality and
>compatibility (where the MD can be played) in favour of recording
>time, you can do the same by burning MP3s onto CD, which effectively
>sacrifices audio quality and vastly reduces compatibility, so it's a
>fair comparison.

When you burn MP3's onto CD (not by converting them to CD Audio, but by
keeping them as MP3), the only way you can play them back is on the
computer or in a specialized CD player -- those players are novelties,
and often cannot playback all MP3 files. If you have a MiniDisc recorder
(especially a portable) that records in LP2 mode, you can take that
portable with you and play it, or you can play the MD back on any newer
MD player with LP mode. Granted, some people won't have a portable with
long play mode, but at least LP is the standard now, and an LP unit will
play back any MD recorded in LP mode. Plus a CD with MP3s doesn't sound
as good as a MiniDisc recorded in LP2 mode.
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MD: PC ABX

2001-02-01 Thread Churchill, Guy


The ultimate sound comparison site.

For those interested in sound comparison please 
check out http://www.pcabx.com/product/index.htm
All the types of MP3 (different encoders), even
a MD-JB920 on test.  If you have the bandwidth
it's worth the download.

Even more interesting is the whitepapers
on the ABX method.
http://www.oakland.edu/~djcarlst/abx_pub.htm


Cheers   GC

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Re: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Don Capps


From: "Dan Frakes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> When you burn MP3's onto CD (not by converting them to CD Audio, but by
keeping them as MP3), the only way you can play them back is on the computer
or in a specialized CD player -- those players are novelties,
and often cannot playback all MP3 files.

Hey Dan...you should check out the Phillips Expanium. I haven't found an mp3
file at any bitrate that it won't playback...including VBR.

Don C. (the gear slut)

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Re: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Frakes


Anthony Lalande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>First of all, "ease of editing" requires the proper editing hardware. 
>If you compare the ease of editing on a MD Player/Recorder with the 
>ease of editing on a computer hooked up to a CD burner, I'd pick the 
>computer any day. MD brings simple editing to the masses, and 
>computers bring power to the pros. I'm not saying your statement is 
>wrong, but I don't think it's completely accurate either.

I personally call preparing songs for burning on a computer "creating" or 
"preparing." IMO, "editing" is what you do with something after it's been 
created.

CD can't be edited, MD can. If you burn a CD and later want to change it, 
you have to redo it from scratch. In my book, MD blows CD away for 
editing (and I say that as someone who has both MD and CD-R).

>Second, "long play modes". There are some CDs that can hold up to 80 
>minutes of music. MDs can go beyond 80 minutes, but at the cost of 
>audio quality ( mono mode or LP-2, LP-4, etc...).

Actually, from every report I've found, LP2 has sound very comparable to 
standard MD when used as a portable medium.

>And of course if you want to sacrifice audio quality and 
>compatibility (where the MD can be played) in favour of recording 
>time, you can do the same by burning MP3s onto CD, which effectively 
>sacrifices audio quality and vastly reduces compatibility, so it's a 
>fair comparison.

When you burn MP3's onto CD (not by converting them to CD Audio, but by 
keeping them as MP3), the only way you can play them back is on the 
computer or in a specialized CD player -- those players are novelties, 
and often cannot playback all MP3 files. If you have a MiniDisc recorder 
(especially a portable) that records in LP2 mode, you can take that 
portable with you and play it, or you can play the MD back on any newer 
MD player with LP mode. Granted, some people won't have a portable with 
long play mode, but at least LP is the standard now, and an LP unit will 
play back any MD recorded in LP mode. Plus a CD with MP3s doesn't sound 
as good as a MiniDisc recorded in LP2 mode.
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MD: MZ-E900

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Frakes


I got my E900 in the mail today... wow.

The size is simply amazing (including the weight). The remote is much 
better than the remote that came with my MZ-R50 and the one on my 
friend's MZ-R90. The feature set is great, especially the independent 
bass/treble controls, alarm timer, and programmable playback. The sound 
quality is noticeably better than on my other units. Highly recommended.
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RE: MD: PC connection with MDS-JB940

2001-02-01 Thread Kenneth Lee


Well, you have to use the optional pc-link kit... it's usb on one end and
have a tos-link cable on the other side along with a PS/2 like connector...
now I suspect it may just plug into the keyboard jack on the 940.. or to the
Control A1 jack?   I am confused!! Is there a dfference between the Japanese
model and the US model??

Ken

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Kenneth Lee wrote:

> Does anyone on the list have the
> similiar set up?  If so, can someone here let me know
> what's going on?  it certainly say that the JB940 is
> compatible with the PC kit.  Any help is appreciated,
> thanks.

I ordered the JB940 (it's in the mail), and from my understanding, it just
plugs into your USB port and one of the digital ins on the deck.

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong. :-)

Josh

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MD: PC connection with MDS-JB940

2001-02-01 Thread Kenneth Lee


Hi, I just got my brand new Sony JB940 in the mail
today.  I thought it can connect to the pc thru the
PCLK-MN10 kit, but I see no connection jack on the
back of the deck except the keyboard PS/2 jack in the
front panel.  Does anyone on the list have the
similiar set up?  If so, can someone here let me know
what's going on?  it certainly say that the JB940 is
compatible with the PC kit.  Any help is appreciated,
thanks.

Ken

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Re: MD: sec: unclassified: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread John Small


On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:42:22 +1100 , "Cramb, Kevin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>A CD-R deck is looking
>likely but would break my heart as I have heaps of MD music.
>Is the new equipment any better?

PMJI, but I don't see a problem.  In my case I have both a cd-rw deck in the hi
fi system (Philips 950) and an MD deck (and portable recorder).  I make copies
of cd's, move mp3 and vinyl to cd-r ... and then copy the stuff I want to take
portable from cd and cd-r's to MD.  I had initially thought I would copy from
vinyl to MD but cd-r is better, cheaper and fits in my home system the best.  MD
is way way better for portability as we all know.  There's a place for both in
my system.

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RE: MD: sec: unclassified: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Richard Lang


> Is the new equipment any better?
> 
> Kev  
...

Kevin, I've never (touch wood) had a problem with my Sony JE-520 deck in
over two years.  I'd recommend it, and this recommendation may apply to
newer units with the same chassis - the 640 being an example as far as I can
tell. 

All new electronic products seem to have built in obsolescence these days,
but it seems the more recent units are more reliable than the earlier units
as the R&D learning curve shallows.  Portable MD recorders are the most
fragile of the lot, even if you're careful with them there's so much packed
into them it isn't hard for something to go wrong.

I guess I'm saying stick with MD - no-one can say a CDR deck is guaranteed
to be more reliable.


Richard Lang
Solicitor

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MD: Jvc PDA link

2001-02-01 Thread Gerard Naude


Greetings.

I remember a while ago, reading a extract about a pc kit that is available
to the JVC XM-R70. The kit would allow you to do titling from a computer, or
pda? Does anyone know anything about this? There is a Japanese page about
it, but my Japanese is not to good :-).

Thanks.

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Re: MD: what is an SACD?

2001-02-01 Thread Francisco J. Huerta


True. Correct me if I am wrong here, but I think that LDs predate the CD.
And yes, audio was analogue. I don't think the quality was very high,
though. All analogue audio LDs I own had a noise reduction encoding scheme
in them; I think it was called "CX". And the analogue tracks always sounded
unspectacular to me. Maybe a little bit more refinement is in order... but
it is an interesting proposition.

> I couldn't agree more. All we need is some noiseless ultra-sensitive
analog
> storage medium...it's that easy! :) I thought I had heard sometime that
> laserdiscs used analog audio, is this true? If so, how's the quality?


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Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??

2001-02-01 Thread Mike Burger



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  = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please  =
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That doesn't make MD better than CD...just very much more convenient. 

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, J. Coon wrote:

>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I was always under the impression that MD was brought out to rpelace the Tape
> > and not the CD.
> >
> > But most people (including myself) seem to always get into the issue of
> > MD vs CD.
>
> Try carrying a CD or two around in your pants pocket.  Big difference!
>

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MD: Recording from SACD

2001-02-01 Thread Phat Ha


Hey, has anyone ever recorded from SACD? What were the results? Can you copy 
digitally, and if so, what kind SCMS-type crap do you have to circumvent?


OO  OO  OO      OOOO  OO   
OO  OO  OO  OO  OO  OOOO  OO  OO  OO  OO
OO  OO  OOOO  OO  OO
OO  OO  OO  OO  OOOO  OO  OO  OO  OO
OO  OO  OO  OO  OOOO  OO  OO  OO  OO

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Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??

2001-02-01 Thread las


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> .I (as usual) blame Sony...they invented the format and hogged it
> to themselves
> for too long and didn't push it nearly enough in the US and I thought the ads
> they had were obscure and ridiculouswell anyway...only cool people
> are into MD a lot of theater groups here in the northeast use only
> MD...they say it is perfect for live theaterokay..I've said
> enough
>

Sony is to blame.  But not because they hogged the format.  There were other
manufactures that offered MD recorders in the US early on.

Sony made several huge marketing mistakes.  Also, they introduced the format
prematurely because, as some else stated the other day, Phillips was coming out
with the  DCC and Sony feared that it might catch on before they ever had a
chance to release the MD (even though ATRAC still needed some work).

At the time that Sony released the MD in the US, the CD had finally gained
acceptance.  CDs did not start walking off of shelves when they were first
introduced.  It took a real long time for them to catch on.  But people had
finally started buying them and often making cassette copies.

Early MD posters and displays seemed to really push their prerecorded MDs.  Don't
forget Sony suddenly found itself in the "record and movie" business after years
of fighting in the courts to allow home taping.

The introductory pricing of both their hardware and blanks was way too high.
This is typical of a new format (with the possible exception of the DVD which,
although prices have dropped, was still not totally ridiculous when first
released).

But Sony forgot about dropping the prices.  They actually had a time line as to
when they expected to drop the prices of MD.  But it was a question of too long
and too little too late.

The debate over whether CDs do sound better than Md copies is moot.  As you
stated MDs should be thought of as a replacement for the cassette (but were not
marketed that way by Sony-a big mistake).

If you are at home and have very high end equipment, you don't really need the
portability and durability of the MD.  But as soon as you step out of your house,
that's a different thing.

The MD is a portable, durable (and now fairly reasonable) medium that you can
carry around with you.  It takes up very little space.  Is self contained and
therefore not subject to the special handling that  a CD requires.

It offers all of the conveniences of a CD with sound quality that is almost
(maybe just as good as) a CD (I'm not going to get into that again).  But without
question is so far advanced in  convenience, audio fidelity and features that you
really can't even think of the cassette when you are talking about the MD.

But hear i am preaching to the converted.

Larry

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MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Churchill, Guy


> >> This is so bloody ridiculous!! MD is far better than CD-R or CD-RW!
> >
> > Sorry. But here I cannot agree with you. How can a data 
> > compressed format possibly be superior to a properly 
> > dithered uncompressed digital recording?
> I was always under the impression that MD was brought out to 
> rpelace the Tape and not the CD.

I think the term "better" needs to be clarified first.



www.dictionary.com

good Abbr. gd., G, G.
adj. bet·ter , best) 

Being positive or desirable in nature; not bad or poor: a good experience;
good news from the hospital. 

Having the qualities that are desirable or distinguishing in a particular
thing: a good exterior paint; a good joke. 
Serving the desired purpose or end; suitable: Is this a good dress for the
party? 

Not spoiled or ruined: The milk is still good. 
In excellent condition; sound: a good tooth. 

Superior to the average; satisfactory: a good student. 
Used formerly to refer to the U.S. Government grade of meat higher than
standard and lower than choice. 

Of high quality: good books. 
Discriminating: good taste. 
Worthy of respect; honorable: ruined the family's good name. 
Attractive; handsome: good looks. 
Beneficial to health; salutary: a good night's rest. 
Competent; skilled: a good machinist. 
Complete; thorough: a good workout. 

Reliable; sure: a good investment. 
Valid or true: a good reason. 
Genuine; real: a good dollar bill. 

In effect; operative: a warranty good for two years; a driver's license that
is still good. 
Able to continue in a specified activity: I'm good for another round of
golf. 

Able to pay or contribute: Is she good for the money that you lent her? 
Able to elicit a specified reaction: He is always good for a laugh. 

Ample; substantial: a good income. 
Bountiful: a good table. 
Full: It is a good mile from here. 

Pleasant; enjoyable: had a good time at the party. 
Propitious; favorable: good weather; a good omen. 

Of moral excellence; upright: a good person. 
Benevolent; kind: a good soul; a good heart. 
Loyal; staunch: a good Republican. 

Well-behaved; obedient: a good child. 
Socially correct; proper: good manners. 
Sports. Having landed within bounds or within a particular area of a court:
The first serve was wide, but the second was good. 
Used to form exclamatory phrases expressing surprise or dismay: Good
heavens! Good grief! 



The key criteria is the element that we are most concerned with here. 

MD vs CD

MD is better if "portability" is the key criteria
MD is better if "robustness (scratches)" is the key criteria
MD is better if "ease of editing" is the key criteria
CD is better if "audio quality" is the key criteria
CD is better if "number of resources that can play the medium" is the key
criteria
MD is better if "long play modes" is the key criteria
CD is better if "cover art" is the key criteria
MD is better if "making live bootleg copies" is the key criteria

Again "better" can be a personal opinion "I like the look of small MD's
over CD's"  OR   it can be a measurable attribute "CD audio is higher
quality of MD"   ...  all of the previous example fall into either (or
sometimes both) categories.

So before we continue to flame each other, consider the key criteria
"you" consider better and express this first.  Then the "nit pickers"
won't have anything to argue about.

L8RGC

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Re: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Anthony Lalande


... Churchill, Guy writes:

> [snip]
>
> The key criteria is the element that we are most concerned with here.
> 
> MD vs CD
> 
> MD is better if "portability" is the key criteria
> MD is better if "robustness (scratches)" is the key criteria
> MD is better if "ease of editing" is the key criteria
> CD is better if "audio quality" is the key criteria
> CD is better if "number of resources that can play the medium" is the key
> criteria
> MD is better if "long play modes" is the key criteria
> CD is better if "cover art" is the key criteria
> MD is better if "making live bootleg copies" is the key criteria


A post like that is bound to raise some controversy.

First of all, "ease of editing" requires the proper editing hardware. If you
compare the ease of editing on a MD Player/Recorder with the ease of editing
on a computer hooked up to a CD burner, I'd pick the computer any day. MD
brings simple editing to the masses, and computers bring power to the pros.
I'm not saying your statement is wrong, but I don't think it's completely
accurate either.

Second, "long play modes". There are some CDs that can hold up to 80 minutes
of music. MDs can go beyond 80 minutes, but at the cost of audio quality
(i.e.: mono mode or LP-2, LP-4, etc...). And of course if you want to
sacrifice audio quality and compatibility (where the MD can be played) in
favour of recording time, you can do the same by burning MP3s onto CD, which
effectively sacrifices audio quality and vastly reduces compatibility, so
it's a fair comparison.

And lastly, "making live bootleg copies". I've been able to smuggle my
computer and burner into a concert hall and.oh, OK. Maybe MD is better
for bootlegging concerts. :)

- Anthony L.

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Re: MD: Recording quiet sounds with mic

2001-02-01 Thread pupu


Calvin wrote:

> I use my Sony MD MZ-55 to record voices softly speaking (poems etc.). No
> background noises. I find the noise of the pre-amp to be a real problem.
> At first, I thought it was the mic, but I changed it for a much better
> one and I still have the same problem. I have tried plugging the mic
> into the line-in/optical input. It's less noisey, but the level is too
> low (even using an audio module from Sound Professionals). Any ideas
> would be most welcome?

I was frustrated in my attempts to try other miking methods of a piano (with
a single stereo mic). Whenever I brought the microphone too far away from
the piano, I had to boost the level up which had the effect of introducing
what I thought was the MD preamp noise. I even bought a decent mic preamp
and the problem still persisted.

Turns out the noise was was a quiet fan in the auditorium! That may seem
silly, but I'm in that auditorium 4-5 hours everyday so I was automatically
tuning out the normal room noises. I didn't realize the room wasn't actually
silent. Fortunately I was able to return the preamp.

Perhaps this could be the same for you. Try plugging your ears with your
fingers, get used to the quiet, then open your ears again and see if they
sound the same.

-- John

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Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??

2001-02-01 Thread las


Don Capps wrote:

> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I was always under the impression that MD was brought out to rpelace the
> Tape and not the CD.
>
> That's correct. It was.
>

Actually that is not the way that Mini Discs were marketed by Sony when they
were introduced in the US.  They were being pushed as a replacement for the CD
which after years of resistance had finally gained acceptance.

Sony had huge displays in stores with prerecorded MDs being pushed.  Big
pictures of Michael Jackson (but very little product actually available.

Larry


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Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??

2001-02-01 Thread Don Capps


From: "las" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Actually that is not the way that Mini Discs were marketed by Sony when
they were introduced in the US.  They were being pushed as a replacement for
the CD which after years of resistance had finally gained acceptance.

Sorry Larry...I don't think so. It was touted as a rewritable/recordable
medium. That was the appeal. As such, it was intended to be the digital
replacement for the cassette. I'm absolutely certain that Sony NEVER viewed
MD as a replacement for CD...ever.

Don C.

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Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??

2001-02-01 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* "Don Capps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  on Thu, 01 Feb 2001
| Sorry Larry...I don't think so. It was touted as a rewritable/recordable
| medium.

"I can record on a CD!"

That was Sony's original or second US ad campaign.
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RE: MD: MD Better??

2001-02-01 Thread Churchill, Guy


> ... Churchill, Guy writes:
> 
> > [snip]
> >
> > The key criteria is the element that we are most concerned 
> with here.
> > 
> > MD vs CD
> > 
> > MD is better if "portability" is the key criteria
>
>  [snip]
> 
> A post like that is bound to raise some controversy.
> 
> First of all, "ease of editing" requires the proper editing 
> hardware. If you compare the ease of editing on a MD 
> Player/Recorder with the ease of editing on a computer 
> hooked up to a CD burner, I'd pick the computer any day.
>
> [snip]
>
> Second, "long play modes". There are some CDs that can hold 
> up to 80 minutes of music. MDs can go beyond 80 minutes, 
>
> [snip]

The thing that ANNOYS me about the type of post above is that I had
CLEARLY stated that the original comments were subject to my
own opinions, based on my own experiences, and my key criteria.

QUOTE.

"Again "better" can be a personal opinion "I like the look of small MD's
over CD's"  OR   it can be a measurable attribute "CD audio is higher
quality of MD"   ...  all of the previous example fall into either (or
sometimes both) categories.

So before we continue to flame each other, consider the key criteria
"you" consider better and express this first.  Then the "nit pickers"
won't have anything to argue about."

END QUOTE.

To take the subjective opinion in isolation and fail to quote (or
take into consideration) the rest of the e-mail is asking for disaster
(or at least a flame war  :).

So Anthony L. I know you may have been having a bit of a laugh (especially
about the bootleg bit), but now someone reading the second e-mail
without taking into the consideration the context of the first, will think
someone said MD is better than CD.

Roll on unnecessary flame postings.

I do realise that the nature of message lists is that items take a while
to get to everyone and in that time someone else may have already
retracted their original post or at least changed their opinion.
The Internet is fast .. but not *that* fast.

My INTENT was to demonstrate that the term "better" should be qualified
before we get lead into long winded (like this E-mail) debates on opinions
without the original context taken into consideration.

So when someone says MD is better than CD, why they think that, based
on what criteria is established BEFORE people waste time refuting the 
statement.



So in conclusion, it is important for the harmony of the list that people
make themselves as clear as possible and don't leave un-qualified statements
floating around just waiting to be picked off.

Then again, this is only my opinion  ?  


L8R   GC


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