RE: MD: First Mini-CD player available - Beatman

2001-07-29 Thread Michael Hoffman


Official product page for Beatman Mini-CD player
http://www.freecom.com/ecCategory_one.asp?ID=8009&type=DRIVE%5FIN

Beatman detailed links & ordering
http://www.freecom.com/ecProduct_detail.asp?ID=134&nr=16194

$127 Euro = $111 US
$152 Euro with shipping = $133 US total

103mm l x 95 mm w x 29 mm h

MZ-R900 is 75 mm l x 75 mm w
CD players are 155 mm l x 130 mm w
So this player is in between a CD and MD player, but I think a Mini-CD player
could have a smaller area than a MD area -- what is the area of an 80 mm
circle vs. an MD rectangle?


http://www.freecom.com/ecProduct_detail.asp?ID=137
$35 Euro for 25 Mini CD-Rs with jewel cases = $21.91 US = $0.88 US each
185 MB, 8 CM diameter


Press release:
http://www.freecom.com/ecnewsitem.asp?ID=451

Heavy Demand for New Freecom Beatman

Berlin, July 2001. Export demand for the new Beatman mini CD player,
the revolutionary portable MP3 mini CD player, has exceeded all
expectations, according to manufacturer, Freecom Technologies, based
in Delft, The Netherlands. By restructuring its production logistics
Freecom is able to assure European markets that Beatman supplies will
be readily available from August onwards.

In recent years Freecom has established a reputation as a leading
manufacturer of high quality multimedia storage solutions for the
computer hardware market. Its main target group to date has
been 'early adopters' who have been particularly keen on the external
CD writers in the Traveller and Portable series, now in its second
generation.

Freecom is targeting this user group to meet their demand for
innovative, practical and cost effective ways to listen to MP3 music.
The Beatman is the result of this product development and fills a
significant gap in the market for building a personal portable music
library. The surprise has been the almost immediate mass market
appeal of the Beatman that has sent demand soaring.

Peter de Waal, Product Manager for the Beatman at Freecom Europe
explains: "We certainly expected Beatman to become a favourite with
the mass audience down the line," he says, "but our launch to the
more specialist market has been picked up by the mass media and
generated much wider demand than we planned for initially. That's
great and we have rapidly adjusted our production schedules to take
this into account and meet demand with the minimum delay. Naturally
we are delighted by the response," adds de Waal.

The increasing availability of music on the Internet and greater
awareness and use of the MP3 format have also encouraged change in
the storage market. Now, mini CDs offer a practical alternative to
expensive MP3 memory chips and provide much higher music capacity,
storing some 850 MB of data or 210 minutes of music. MP3 music files
are simply downloaded from the internet, using the free software
provided with the Beatman. A CD rewriter is used to burn selections
on to mini CD's which can then be played anytime on the Beatman. So,
in contrast to the majority of portable MP3 players, the Beatman
offers a music lovers a chance to build and personalise a truly
portable listening library in a light an convenient format, played on
the new trend-setting Beatman mini CD player.

___

Comments please?  My initial take is that mini-CD players will
eclipse portable CD players, portable MP3 players, portable cassette
players, and portable MiniDisc players.

Michael Hoffman
http://www.amptone.com/audio

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MD: Phil Greene/CLS is out of the office.

2001-07-29 Thread Phil Greene


I will be out of the office starting  07/27/2001 and will not return until
08/20/2001.

I will respond to your message when I return.

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MD: MiniDisc Weekly News for 29 July 2001

2001-07-29 Thread MiniDisc Community Pages Weekly News


MiniDisc Community Pages News for 24 July 2001

 o Tony Maric points out a [1]USA Today article pitching the MD format 
   against solid state devices.

  [1] http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/review/2001-07-23-mp3-usat.htm


 o Conor Lalor launches a version of his [2]MD Labels site en franais 

  [2] http://www.mdlabels.f2s.com/


MiniDisc Community Pages News for 25 July 2001

 o  Trevor Bommersbach points out photos and Japanese info at AV-Watch 
   for [1]Sony's MZ-R909 portable MD recorder ([2]close-up ). Sony's 
   [3]Japanese announcement (machine [4]translation ) details its 
   improved battery life and indicates the unit has a 3 line, 9 
   character LCD, ATRAC Type R, group function, and a revamped, 
   speed-sensitive, fully turning jog-dial interface.

  [1] http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20010724/sony.htm
  [2] http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20010724/sony3.jpg
  [3] http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/CorporateCruise/Press/200107/01-0724
  [4] http://www.minidisc.org/translations/sony_mzr909_trans.htm


 o AV-Land (UK) gives initial coverage of [5]Sony's MZ-R909 portable 
   recorder. An updated MZ-R900, the unit sports a larger main-body 
   LCD, charging stand, ATRAC Type R, and improved battery life (84hr 
   playback in LP4 w/NiMH+AA vs. MZ-R900's 66hr).

  [5] http://www.avland.co.uk/sony/mzr909/index.htm


 o Robin Marsolier finds a photo and Japanese info for the [6]Teac 
   MD-H100LP, a compact form-factor home MDLP deck.

  [6] http://www.teac.co.jp/av/WHAT/mdh100lp_f.html


 o Frank Dunn finds a [7]Kenwood DMF-5020 review at HiFi Choice (UK). 

  [7] http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=504


MiniDisc Community Pages News for 26 July 2001

 o  Kevin Cramb notes that the Optical Storage Technology Association 
   has approved the [1]MultiAudio Standard, an updated CD-TOC format 
   that allows faster access to compressed audio files on CD (complete 
   [2]spec ).

  [1] http://www.osta.org/specs/multiaudio.htm
  [2] http://www.osta.org/specs/pdf/MultiAudio073.pdf


 o Planet Minidisc offers the [3]Sony MZ-R700 sans DPC for $200, 
   w/shipping. They also offer the [4]MZ-R500 neat as well as an 
   [5]updated feature comparison chart for portables.

  [3] http://www.planetminidisc.com/mz-r700.html
  [4] http://www.planetminidisc.com/mz-r500.html
  [5] http://www.planetminidisc.com/portables-chart.html


 o The [6]Melting-Pot (Japan) is exporting top Japanese in-dash MD 
   receivers that have been adapted to US and European FM bands. 

  [6] http://www.melting-pot.com


MiniDisc Community Pages News for 27 July 2001

 o Kingsley Smith points out a photo and Japanese announcement for the 
   [1]Sharp MD-MT770 portable MD recorder (machine [2]translation ); 
   AV-Land posts an [3]English summary. The unit sports a 2 line LCD 
   remote, record breaking thinness (15.7mm), several unique group mode 
   functions, and can be connected to a PC via USB for titling and 
   audio download with Sharp's AD-PCR3 kit (available end of 
   September).

  [1] http://www.sharp.co.jp/corporate/news/010726.html
  [2] http://www.minidisc.org/translations/sharp_MD-MT770_trans1.htm
  [3] http://www.avland.co.uk/sharp/mdmt770/index.htm


 o [4]Mironics posts a [5]press release detailing their consumer-grade 
   PC titling solution for Sony portables.

  [4] http://www.mironics.com
  [5] http://www.mironics.com/default.asp?get_firstpage=latestnews.asp


 o Nedi discovers [6]further refinements to the MZ-R900 SCMS 
   workaround.

  [6] http://www.minidisc.org/brian_youn/R900_SCMS.html#nedi


 o Martin Roberts finds brief, consumer level reviews at HiFi Choice 
   for several portable MD recorders: the [7]Sharp MD-MT877, [8]Sony 
   MZ-G750, and [9]JVC XM-R700SL.

  [7] http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=1290
  [8] http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=1291
  [9] http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=1287


 o Copy prohibition comes to Compact Disc: Jorge Puga spots a 
   Stereophile article detailing [10]Macrovision's method of making 
   CD's un-rippable. 

  [10] http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?1094


MiniDisc Community Pages News for 29 July 2001

 o Martin Roberts finds a plethora of MD [1]portables and [2]home units 
   at QED (UK), including the [3]Sharp MD-MT99 for 151 w/shipping. He 
   also finds the [4]Sharp MD-MT877 for 180 (plus shipping) from Empire 
   Direct (UK).

  [1] http://www.qed-uk.com/cgi-bin/q?b-grp=208&v-bar=9
  [2] http://www.qed-uk.com/cgi-bin/q?p-cat=12&b-grp=209&v-bar=9
  [3] http://www.qed-uk.com/cgi-bin/q?b-grp=208&b-code=99s&v-bar=9
  [4] http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/productdetailsnew.asp?modelcode=SHA-MDMT877B



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Re: MD: Recording audio to video tapes

2001-07-29 Thread Brent Harding


Oh, Will the six hour mode work OK without really noticing what this extra
error will bring? I suppose the one thing is it will convert the audio in
to a video signal so that all VCR's will record it. I kind of like the idea
of having track markers, but how that really can be implemented, I'm not
sure, but the four track cassette players usually have tones audible in
rewind/fastforward modes that may be able to be counted automatically, if
something supported that.
At 02:22 PM 7/29/01 -0600, you wrote:
>
>  Brent Harding asked about PCM adapters, and the discussion went off in
other directions.  In the interest of historical accuracy a few points
might help Brent and anyone else wanting to do something like this.
>
>  1. PCM adapters do exist, but they are antiques.  I have a number of
them: Anyone interested in a PCM 10?  How about an F1 or 500?  I'll keep my
600s, thank you.
>
>  2. The A/D and D/A is unimpressive by 21st Century standards.  The 600s
have S/PDIF I/O, so they are more usable.
>
>  3. VHS at SLP (6-Hour speed) yields many PCM uncorrectable errors so
there is much interpolation.  Beta is better, but who has it anymore?
>
>  4. VHS Hi-Fi is not digital and is usually implemented poorly for
critical recording in all but really expensive pro decks.
>
>  5. Sony made an 8mm video deck many years ago that directly implemented
PCM audio recording as an optional mode, yielding a very long unattended
recording and play time.
>
>  6. Any linear-access recording medium is a bear for finding things.
Hence auto-locators and time code on pro decks.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Gary
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Re: MD: Recording audio to video tapes

2001-07-29 Thread las


Gary Gilliland wrote:

> 4. VHS Hi-Fi is not digital and is usually implemented poorly for critical 
>recording in all but really expensive pro decks.

> While I'm sure that Dan F. knows that VHS Hi-Fi is not digital, I don't think he 
>realizes that the problem with MP3 is usually the hardware and not the format.

I have compressed CD audio and WAV files to MP3 and then copied them on to a CD.  I 
then played the CD using my Apex DVD player.  The results seem cleaner than anything I 
have ever heard from VHS Hi-Fi.

Perhaps Dan has very high end equipment, but as impressed as I was with Hi-Fi video 
when they first came out (both VHS and Beta) I don't think that the sound quality is 
as good as many of the cuts on the MP3 CDs
that I make.

Also, unlike linear audio, VCR Hi-Fi is not really dependent upon the speed of the 
tape.  The specs for SP and LP are not that drastically different.

LAS

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Re: MD: Recording audio to video tapes

2001-07-29 Thread Gary Gilliland


  Brent Harding asked about PCM adapters, and the discussion went off in other 
directions.  In the interest of historical accuracy a few points might help Brent and 
anyone else wanting to do something like this.

  1. PCM adapters do exist, but they are antiques.  I have a number of them: Anyone 
interested in a PCM 10?  How about an F1 or 500?  I'll keep my 600s, thank you.

  2. The A/D and D/A is unimpressive by 21st Century standards.  The 600s have S/PDIF 
I/O, so they are more usable.

  3. VHS at SLP (6-Hour speed) yields many PCM uncorrectable errors so there is much 
interpolation.  Beta is better, but who has it anymore?

  4. VHS Hi-Fi is not digital and is usually implemented poorly for critical recording 
in all but really expensive pro decks.

  5. Sony made an 8mm video deck many years ago that directly implemented PCM audio 
recording as an optional mode, yielding a very long unattended recording and play time.

  6. Any linear-access recording medium is a bear for finding things.  Hence 
auto-locators and time code on pro decks.

Hope this helps.

Gary

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Re: MD: dig. soundcard, again (OT!)

2001-07-29 Thread Eduardo H. Martinez-Hasembank


Hi Knez:

You need an audio interface to input your information/audio into the
computer, as you pointed out. I have personal experience in using Mark of
the Unicorn (MOTU) products and I highly recommend them, even though they
are not the only ones by any means. They are an audio/music company here in
Massachussetts, USA.

http://www.motu.com/

When you visit their website, under 'Audio Hardware' in the Products page,
you'll find a table with an overview of their interfaces and their
capabilities. There might be more than one interface that meets your needs,
so you will most likely have to decide on the additional features that might
be handy, or that will allow you to grow your studio.

In terms of an audio application that can handle the audio coming in, it is
more tricky. Your audio program has to 'see' your audio card through the use
of drivers, so in other words, no, not all audio programs will 'see' every
audio card. Your audio program company can tell you what cards are supported
for their software. You don't mention what audio program you have, if any,
though.

The MOTU interfaces include an audio program called Audio Desk, which is the
audio portion of their flagship sequencer Digital Performer (audio + MIDI).
You can edit your audio with the basic Audio Desk software.

Hope this helps,

Eduardo H. Martinez-Hasembank
Holos Media
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> From: Gerhard Knez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:20:54 +0200
> Subject: MD: dig. soundcard, again (OT!)
> 
> snip...
> I have an Roland VSR-880 which is an 8 track harddisk recoding device.
> It has an S/PDIF optical output and also a digital chinch output
> (would prefer to use the optical). Now I want to connect the Roland to
> my computer and upload the 8-track recordings to manipulate it on the
> PC (use Win98 and WinNT 4.0). As far as the docu said the 880 presents
> every 8 tracks on its digital output.
> 
> Is that possible at all?
> Which soundcard do I need to get all 8 tracks at the same time
> uploaded to my soundprogram?
> Is that possible with every card?
> What are the technical requirements of an appropriate card?
> There are a lot of multi-track soundprograms out there, I assume that
> every program that can handle multipe tracks is able to handle the
> input, right?
> Can anybody give me some advice where to find information about that
> (other mailinglist/webpage...)?
> 
> You can also contact me directly to reduce the MD-off-topic part on
> the list to a minimum if you want.
> 
> I hope it's clear what I'm asking (poor english, I'm german).
> 
> Thanks alot in advance,
> Gerhard
> 
> -- 
> Knez Gerhard
> Customer Support Engineer
> Credence Systems Europa GmbH
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RE: MD: First Mini-CD player available - Beatman

2001-07-29 Thread Michael Hoffman


Related:

mpZip Mini-CD player (very detailed review)
http://hardware.dmusic.com/reviews/mpzip/printer.php

Expanium Mini-CD player (planned)
http://www.tecchannel.de/news/20010503/thema20010503-4303.html

Samsung/Yepp Mini-CD player
http://www.tecchannel.de/news/20010704/thema20010704-4783.html


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