Re: MD: Real Audio (was Re: USB to S/PDIF interface)
> The other technique is to use the (temporarily) banned program > X-fileget. This is the one that RealAudio got a temporary > restraining order against because the programmers so successfully > reverse-engineered the RealAudio protocol. There are bootleg copies > out there so search a bit to find it. X-fileget does several really > nifty things. First off, it can grab several different RealAudio > streams at once. Either drop the URLs in the window or invoke the > program with the URLs. Secondly, for non-live RealAudio, it fools > the server into spitting out the stream at full speed. I can grab > the whole file that way as fast as if I was FTPing it. Really nifty > to go to one of the many web pages offering streaming audio of, say, > big band music and suck off all the files at once. Yes, real nice program. I did a little searching. Heres a link: http://www.babelfish.mcmail.com/x-fileget.exe Enjoy! YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MDX-65 Changer
> If that Chrysler head unit can't control an MDX-65, you will need > the RF > kit and remote controller. The remote controller mounts up front > and > has its own display to control the changer. The RF modulator hooks > into > the antenna, and you listen to the changer by dialing in a specific > frequency on the radio. Yeah, but, I'm not wanting to go the RF route. Few problems: direct antenna connection causes loss from antenna because of modulator Most of the time, they're set fequencies and you can get bleed through, although the modulator does cut it off, I've seen it happen FM audio is kinda bad Is it possible to use just the remote and use the RCA audio wires, nah, doubt it. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dolby Surround signals on MiniDisc
> >No matter what you end up buying DO NOT buy a receive if it does > not have > >in > >addition to Dolby Digital, DTS (Digital Theater Sound). > > Is the Dolby surround signal recorded on MiniDiscs? Or is it removed > by the > ATRAC? (Because you can't hear the signals without a dolby decoder) > UmmmPro-Logic is kept on MD, it's also on MP3. All Pro-Logic is seperation of audio within a 180 degree shift in the original audio track. -JR YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MDX-65 Changer
Hey all, My mom is going to put a CD changer in her convertable, I convinced her to go with a MD changer. I found a MDX-65 changer on sale on the net for $319.99. Anybody know how good this changer is and will it work with a stock Chrystler head unit that has changer controls for a 6 cd changer out of box, or will I have to get all sorts of adapters. Someone let me know something so I'm better prepared to install the thing if we order it off the net. I know Crutchfield knows all that shit, but, they're too expensive. -J YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD -> CD Deck
>Does anyone know where there is a deck with both a minidisc and a CD-R >in it.. Ummm, no. And I want to add that if you have MD you don't need CD-R having MD and a CD-R in the same deck would defeat the purpose of either. It's just plain stupid. >I want to be able to copy MD directly to CD without using a >computer at preferably greater than 1x, all the CD/MD decks I have seen >are CD players not CD-R 1) why would u want to do that? 2) only way your going to do it is optical 1x between decks or analog or to a computer. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Need help to send analog MD to WAV to mp3
=My new PC does not have audio recording to WAV like my old PC =did. Saying this is wrong, all PC's have WAV recording, you just need the software to do it. I'm = wanting to convert a Minidisc analog signal from the PC line-in to a WAV = file and then to mp3. Is there freeware to record WAV from analog line = inputs on my PC? I've looked and read a good FAQ on CDR and mp3 but = none mentions analog in to WAV conversion, just from CD. Thanks. Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com) is a shareware WAV editor that has a funtion limit, but will allow you to save. Those CDR and MP3's FAQ don't mention WAV recording because no one records WAVS for MP3's, they just rip them digitally. While I rip my vinyl and Minidisc though the card using Tape Out on the amp which goes to my line input, huge tangle of wires. -JR - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: "compression"
Thank you Raplh, I'm glad someone is kinda seeing things on the same level as me. >4) Vinyl has a higher bandwidht than CD, but I've yet to see an >LP that uses >it's >full potential. True, most studio equipment is limited to 22khz anyway, but, I have a Quadra-Phonic demo disc that according to the specs, has the sub-carrier signal at 50khz. Well, I recored the record into my computer at half speed, and this subcarrier occured at about 22 khz (sampled at 48khz). So it has been done, just not audio wise. BTW, in response to an audio post about somone saying about constant speed. HAH, have you ever taken a tape deck apart and slowed the speed down. Sound quality is slightly compromised, but, you fit more. So a tape won't always hold 30 minutes per side on a 60 mintue tape, wven with factory set speeds, theres variation. With VCR's, no, my tapes don't always hold 120 minutes of audio/video. They can hold up to 6 hours. Zenith made one that held 16 hours. -JR - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: "compression"
>We all call ATRAC "compression", when it is not. It is bitwise reduction. No ATRAC is compression. It's removing audio from the PCM stream. Cutoff and compression ARE NOT the same. How many times do we have to say this? >A single side of an >analog Laserdisc can hold about as much audio data as two CDs. >Do the >math: the linear PCM data requires about 1/4 of the physical >media as the >analog data. IOW, analog to 16-bit PCM results in ~4:1 >compression. Yeah BUT, analog signals when recorded don't have a set size. You can't say "1 minute of analog audio takes 5MB", you just can't. You can control the amount of audio it holds by changing the speed. >Or is all this just a double-standard? I mean, compression >means "make >smaller", right? If the digitization process makes the signal >smaller, >then explain to me why it isn't compression. Because, within the human hearing limits, all the audio is there and has been modified. You can save it and save it and save it and the bitstream is the same EVERY TIME. Unlike MP3 where the more you compress it, the worse it sounds. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: "compression"
--Original Message-- From: Stainless Steel Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: MD-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: April 30, 2000 7:25:26 PM GMT Subject: Re: MD: "compression" <...> Being the person in question, I have to point out that what I am trying to convince him is that the process of converting from the analog domain to the digital domain at CD-DA sampling rates is in fact a form of lossy compression. What you get out is smaller than what you put in (compare with analog recordings on optical media like Laserdisc), and some information is lost in the process. If it walks like a duck Ummyou can't call the process of analog to digital conversion compression, you aren't making the audio smaller, your simply sampling it every so often. Analog doesn't take space, your limited by the speed and amount of media, so you can't say that a CD is compressed vs a casette. A casette can hold an hour of music or 8 hours, depending on what speed you have it running. If you used optical analog techniques on a compact disc you can vary speed and get more or less time. Yes, you lose stuff then you digitize, BUT compression removes stuff from the auctual digital waveform to make it smaller as where digization preserves the wav best it can. It's NOT compression. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: the death of MP3
for me i'd rather not have something that sounds nasty and uses expensive solid state media, i'll stick with my MD. Well I kinda only caught part of the thread. MP3 is diffently not the last word in digital audio formats. MP3 isn't as good as VQF. Granted VQF uses vector quantization, it does a much better job. It's 96kbps, damn near transparent, and sounds great then transferred to MiniDisc. Solid Audio is hopefully, going to hit stores this fall and will feature not only MP3 decoder, but VQF decoder as well. -JR - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: magnetic damage
. > > I don't know what a dynamo magnet is, but I was able to corrupt data > on > an MD using a ceramic magnet out of a microwave oven's magnetron. Yeah, but a magnetron is like, a powerful magnet. Thats where all the weight comes from in those things. You basically have the magnet around a vaccum tube which produces a strong magnetic field then creates a high fequency pulse (the microwave radation). But, yeah, blasting MD's with a wave from a magnatron isn't good either (took an old microwave apart). -J.R YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Nic Boyde's essay contest "Will MD Survive?"
Whoa, I go away for a week, get sick, and realize that, I sent the essay wrong. damn, someone remind me, next time I catch pnemouna, to stay off the puter. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Nic Boyde's essay contest "Will MD Survive?"
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === > Write an essay "Will MD Survive?", of approximately 1000 > words. Entries will be judged by me, Nic Boyde and one other MD list > veteran (yet to be named). First prize will be an MZ-R50 (new) from > Nic Boyde's last remaining stock. Entries are due by midnight GMT, > April 30th, 2000. Ok, spent the last three days working on this essay. It's in normal text for convience and compatability. BTW, if you want to post it on the MDCP, feel free. -J.R. === MIME part removed : text/plain; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Circuit City Responds
Since I became president of the sight and sound club this is auctually something a lot of people asked when I used my MiniDisc JE510 deck to record concerts rather than thier crappy tape deck. This lead me that I need to run some blind listening tests. Seeing as we auctually had some advanced equipment there, I decided to put MD to the test aganist CD and also MP3 aganist them too, because EVERYONE knows MP3. So I digitally ripped the MP3 and encoded it using the newest Franhouer encoder from Nero Burning rom then burned those MP3's onto an Audio CD (Nero will decode as well). Then I dug up a really nice CD player with digital output and recorded the same song off the same CD. Now I've got like, 5 samples: CD, MD, MP3@128, MP3@160 and MP3@192. So we set up our test system. A JVC Pro-Logic surround system, JVC CD player, some really good Bose speakers and my MD deck. We gathered 10 people for a first run test. Most of them being freshmen and sophmores. Well, 9 people guessed CD properly, 1 said it was probably MD. 8 people said the MD was MD, 2 said they weren't sure, but it sounds like CD. Then when it came to the MP3, they got 128 with no problem, at 160, 2 had guessed MD, then at 192 everyone said something different. We're running the test on some adults today, and I may throw in SoundVQ for fun. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The truth about Hi Space and Memorex...
The memorex minidisc is really cheap, > the > plastic cover very weak. Well why are all the memorex discs I buy have no problems and have been stepped on and not cracked? Do I have a horseshoe up my ass when it comes to blank MD's? And, umm... while just about every place here sells MD stuff (hell, CVS sells 3 packs of blanks) I cannot find any Hi Space. It's like they don't exist. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Subject: Sony has seen the light!
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 08:39:09 -0400 "J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Shawn R. Lin" wrote: > > > > Circuit > > City had the MDS-JB920 for a little while in 1998, but now they > don't > > have MD equipment at all. They do, however, have CD recorders. > > I haven't been in the local Circuit City since before xmass, but the > last time I looked, they had simply moved the MD equipment. > Both of mine around here have a MD area with the stereo equipment. They highly recccomend it. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: GEt your green markers here
> I haven't tried those. Will Pink Sharpie pens work? > > :) > -- Hrmmm, dunno. But if you color the top of the disc yellow and put red around the side, that'll work too. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: GEt your green markers here
> I've got just the green marker you need! It's on special too. > Step > right this way. Don't mind those technical guys, they don't know > what > the heck they are talking about.. Besides, I can't get them to > accept any kick backs from my Green Markers For You, Inc. Now > those What HiFI guys, those are the ones ya gotta listen to.. damn > straight. Yeah, they work wonders. I was able to hear all sorts of shit with the green marker. Hell, if you get a nice even coat of green marker ink on the disc, it REALLY sounds good. BTW, pink marker on the side of a MD will improve the decoding of ATRAC audio. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Low bit rate / extreme compression encoding
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 05:23:08 +0100 "PrinceGaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hey guys! > > For some time I have been listening to an audio stream which I'm > receiving at 20kbps > encoded with Windows Media Player codec. It's 1960's music and the > thing is it's > quite acceptable (comparable to a intermediate distance AM radio > station) and I'm sure > would be perfectably acceptable for audio books. When I say 20kbps > thats the actual > data transfer rate, not my connection to my ISP. Ok. > > Some quick arithmetic shows that at 20kbps, a 150MB minidisc would > run for over 16 > hours at this rate, fantastic for an audio book and without the > terrible distortion you > get with a similar speed RealAudio stream. Perhaps once MS has > actually hit the > bullseye and come up with a great algorithm. No. MS incorporated several codecs with WMA. VQF is much better at compression. However it is decent at lower bitrates. Better than MP3 and VQF doesn't go that low. > > I know it is 70:1 compression, well okay 35:1 as it's mono but I > could happily listen > to it on a bus, coach or train. Umm, it's 70:1 compression. Remeber, compressed audio is all about your bitrate, not your properties. A 96kbps Mono MP3 @ 44.1 Khz would be the same size as say a 32khz stereo MP3 at the same bitrate. Only reason most people think theres a difference is because most encoders won't allow certin birates to be used. > Thats seven times higher than MD, > hell its over three > times the 128kbps MP3 format we slag off and being mono halved > again. I would be > happy to have an audio book recorded in that format and run for 16 > hours on one > standard MD, hey for listening while travelling I could live quite > happily with it, a stereo > version would be better (eeek, only 8 hours per MD :-) Yes, this would be nice, BUT, will the current ATRAC chips PLAY a stream encoded at that without having to change. I'm thinking it wouldn't. But, if it is backwards compatable with earlier versions, they just might be able to pull such a thing off. And if your going to keep it 20kbps, if your using stereo, it'd STILL be 16 hours, but, youd more than likely double the birate to 40 kbps. > > Okay listening here at home on my hifi the compression artifacts are > quite noticeable, > this codec seems to deal with them a helluva lot better than > RealPlayer does, and is > actually enjoyable even at 20kbps! RealPlayer G2 7.0 is good at lower qualities, but WMA does handle it somewhat better. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony MZ-R100 - WOW!
Wow, what a unit "The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable." I've been WAITING for a unit that had that! YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Rerty
Ok, I just downloaded a pre-release of No Doubt's new CD and after burning it to CD I started recording it to MD. Anyway a fewminutes ago I plugged some headphones into my JE510 and when I looked back at the display, it said "Retry?" - I don't know if it said anything before, but it disappeared and continuted as normal. Any ideas? -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 on cassette
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:06:06 -0500 "John S. McLachlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hmmm. Is this trouble for MD? > > http://cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/03/27/flashtrax.idg/index.html > > - J > Hrmm, this is debateable. On one hand people will get it because it they can still use thier casette decks. OTOH, casette decks suck. IT won't work. It'll cost too much. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digital music survey
> I guess this could be interpreted 2 ways: Either the people making > this > poll think that md is out for the future of digital music, or else > they > are clueless. IT just goes to show how people want it faster. Speed isn't everything. People are dumb. Face it, even with IQ's above normal, we're all dumb. Some people would rather download 30 minutes of bad quality music and go rather than take time day before a trip, take that evening, record some music to a MD and just relax while the whole process is going on. I do that, even as I type this, I got some John Prine going onto MD on the good stereo (yes, this JVC has real nice, clean tape/MD output, too bad it's not digital tho. Now I wish I could get my universal remote to operate the MD deck J.R. <--too much time on his hands, reconfigures the stereo for fun. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD Equip Pricing
Hey all, My dad and I were talking about something last night while I was editing an MD I had just recorded on the good stereo. Anyway my dad had heard the sound quality before but he really noticed it this time. Anyway I need to know what models exist under $100 and how good they are as far as battery life. My dad intendsd to record an entire disc in mono to get the real long disc time, but still I want to get him something reasonably cheap and is a good model. Someone had talked about a Casio for $99. Best Buy sells an Audiophase MD portable for $99 and the Sony MZ-E11 was also $99. If anyone can let me know, I'd appricate it. I'd look but I'm too busy at the moment. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Simple mono question
> It stores the data differently I think, just as one data stream, but > only stores 1 channel (combined). Remember a MD is more like a HD > then > a tape/lp, no set out audio tracks. So nothing is premarked out. > > It's just a slightly different type of ATRAC encoding I would have > thought. > > >(I know that's somewhat difficult to understand, but please do your > >best.) > Heh, good luck understanding my bit ;) I recently made another mix of classic rock and I had to put The Beatles on it. Well, a lot of thier tracks aren't done in stereo (at least, the unreleased Antholgy ones, some of them) so I recorded them in mono. When I first got my portable, I was listening to it and heard the clicking noises it made when it powered the motor down and started every 10 seconds. Well, those were stereo recordings. I recently did the same for mono, and I noticed the time the laser stayed powered down doubled. So during mono recordings the buffertime is doubled. Nice little feature. -J.R. Moore <---http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcod e=0016T8 YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: 2 sec gap track
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:09:14 +1100 Damien Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi there > > i remember reading about a Winamp plugin to insert the necessesary 2 > second dead-air required before the MD will put in a track mark. > Where > can I find this? > > -or- does anyone have a 2 sec dead-air / blank track? > > regards > > Damien I beileve Winamp, wanting to get in on new technology, made an output plugin that will allow you to select the gap. But if you want a 2 sec MP3, I can make one and e-mail it to you. it'll be like, 1K @ 8kbps (1.95 @ 176:1 compression - I love this app) But when I run off my 6x CD-Writer (I keep all of my music on CD - and the CD-RW is only drive in box) it winds up being about 2.5 sec delay, then I can go edit out the rest for a real good transistion. -J.R. <---To obsessed with his new program, give the man a copy of VB6, you won't see him for weeks. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Skipping on MD's
is there anything i should do that can stop it > skipping so much? > or is my md just not working right? > > thanks > Don't carry it in trouser pockets where it has area to move. The movement throws the laser off. Ok, maybe I'm wrong, but my portable does the same thing. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: CD-rom to soundcard?
> There is reportadly a real-time CD ripping plug-in for winamp. CD > ripping > is *not* a trivial task, since the CD data format and CDROM drives > were not > designed to do it reliably. The performance you achieve will be > highly > dependent on the drive model and CPU speed. > > A standard CD audio drive with digital output is still by far the > best > way... Yes, CD-Reader for winamp, it does exist, works nice. But I perfer to have Windows explorer do the ripping ::hugs CDFS.vxd:: >:) Converts CD-Audio to WAVS on the fly, no more wasting HD space to rip a song just to encode it and makes copying a song FASTER and EASIER. Ok, I got off topic. -J.R. <---"To obsessed with stuff. Someone give this man a walkman or something." YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD's future and long play MD's
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:39:58 +0100 Ralph Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Sony's gotta figure something out, in fact, I know they will. > > > > MD is only one of a few products that are backward compatable. A > few that > > come to mind are" > > > > casette tapes - any compact casette player will play a compact > casette > > unless it's digital or a different speed > > > > DirecTV stuff - Hey, they changed the compression, but then again, > they > > planed on that. > > > > Atari - Hey, the 7800 played 2600 games > > > > Playstation 2 - I can sell my old box for a upgrade. > > > > Allow me to make a sarcastic remark > You've forgot the PC! Our current 1Ghz Athlon and Pentium III PCs > are > still compatible to the first 4.7Mhz 8088 PCs... Thanks to Bill! Hrmm, true. However, my AMD K6-II crashes on anything from anything lower than a 386. Even 486 and older Pentium class games have trouble running (Doom, Quake, ROTT) Howeve, the card in this machine has nice output and I can record to MD nicely. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: listener fatigue
> Same problem, differnt strategy. I keep about 5-7 MDs in my car (I > mainly > listen to MD in the car). This set of MDs are swapped with another > set of > 5-7 MDs each week! In fact, I rotate the discs. I carry my 30 MD's with me (yeah, while I was going I managed to get 30. Circut City MIGHT have the 20-pack of Memorex discs for $29.99, however, I've had two MD's swipped over the past few months.) and I wind up listening to just about the same thing: my VQF compilation, Punk-I-Rama IV, Fiona Apple's new CD or whatever I have in that case. This reminds me, I'm out of discs. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD's future and long play MD's
> I think it's a good idea, and I would be interested in seeing an MD > Data2 (650MB) based audio MD portable. I think it would be great for > MDs to hold 4 times as much audio (~5h20m of 292kbps ATRAC, or ~21h > of > 66kbps ATRAC3). However, there are a few issues that complicate > Sony's > decision: > > 1) Incompatibility - The new format would be incompatible with what >came before and make a lot of equipment obsolete. Given the > recent >leak about a higher compression rate ATRAC, Sony isn't completely >averse to such things, but it certainly would be a big decision. > > 2) Size/Weight/Power - I don't know about this, but I wonder how > hard >it is to make an MD Data2 drive fit into a tiny portable. > > 3) Cost - certainly the MD Data2 drives and media are more >expensive. Is the [perceived] consumer benefit worth the added >expense? > > 4) Evolution of the format - Would the high density version become > the >standard, or could Sony reasonably have two incompatible formats >being promoted side by side in the market? I would think they > would >phase out the smaller one, which would mean the added expense in >(3) would be placed upon all units. > > As I say, I think it would be nice to have the high density MD > format > available for audio recording. But I have some doubt as to whether > it's the right time to transition the entire format to it as a new > standard. But maybe the MD market more robust than we give it credit > for and Sony should keep the MD ball rolling by moving on to bigger > and better versions. > Sony's gotta figure something out, in fact, I know they will. MD is only one of a few products that are backward compatable. A few that come to mind are" casette tapes - any compact casette player will play a compact casette unless it's digital or a different speed DirecTV stuff - Hey, they changed the compression, but then again, they planed on that. Atari - Hey, the 7800 played 2600 games Playstation 2 - I can sell my old box for a upgrade. Granted it's all the same generation of ATRAC, there have been enhancements. MP3 is a different version of MP2, well, a major version change, but still, same basic principal, and MP3 decoders by nature can't decode an MP2 stream AFAIK, programs like Winamp added that. Maybe sony will interdouce this new format and possibly do a "buyback" thing like the goverment in Canada is trying to do with grey-market dishes up there, only, instead of trying to control what we watch, Sony is trying to increase popularity and compatability. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: [MD-L] Re: MD's future / Circuit City / LETS TAKE OVER SONY
>- USB MOUSE -ITS MP3 COMPATIBLE WITH JUST ONE CLICK HEAR YOUR > FAV. SONGS auctually, some programs will let you program the third mouse button to launch a MP3 player. >- DIGI CAMERA -TAKE A PIC OF YOUR FAV. MP3 PLAYER !! Not only that. but Samsung's new CyberMax digital camera not only features a low-low 640x480 res, but a built in MP3 player. >- SOUND CARD -MP3 READY, COMPATIBLE ... WILL PLAY MP3s... Auctually, there IS a MP3 Sound card that with proper software, will decode MP3's in the card. MP3's are for dumbasses. Get VQF. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 versus MiniDisc
> > I got a MDS-JE510 which has NEVER had any problems, it plays > on and on without any hint of the "known 510 bugs" Those bugs > were allmost all related to the Malaysian units. I got the European > model which was made in Japan and it is absolutely trouble free. > Those Malaysian units take down the whole 510 range allso the > perfect ones... > I traded my 320 with my sister for the 510 she got in a Bundle4 we found at Mont. Wards during the summer. She never even uses the 320, but anyway, only bug I've found is the microswitch bug. -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: [MD-L] Re: MD's future / Circuit City / LETS TAKE OVER SONY
> it every morning. I had an old Sony E-40, and the casio beats that. > The > sony started skipping after i dropped it once. I've dropped the > casio and > its still working fine. I got an E-40. I dropped it once, it started to skip, then the control chip fried so Circut City replaced it. Portable #2: fell a total of 8 times, worse being fall from table to tile floor (appx. 3 ft.) skipped easier and sucked batteries dry. I took it back to have it realigned. no problems yet. But, if it messes up again, can you say "Lemon Policy" :) -J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 versus MiniDisc
> I heard that a few times. What I see in the shops says otherwise - > you can > get blank MDs in ASDA (a supermarket) now! Yeah, CVS, Food Lion and Giant carry like, 3 packs. Dollar General had some at one point. Don't know where they got them from. But it was like, 3 pack for $3.50. Crap though. > > 15 hours of the same 30 minutes of music doesn't appeal to me. I > usually > take about 3 or 4 MDs out with me for variety. I also take a blank > for > recording on if I feel I want to. 3 or 4??? I take my whole case, about 30, 24 in the sleeves and 6 between the pocket that holds the plastic part for the sleeves and case top. > Well as of yet I haven't seen an MP3 recorder than can make near CD > quality > recordings from a microphone, but I would love to be proven wrong. > I've > tried a few MP3 players and I'm much happier with MD. Maybe in a few > years > when MP3 has caught up I may feel differently, The circuts in MP3 only call for, at best, radio quality. And problem with MP3 is they THINK they're improving it when in reality they can't do much more. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 versus MiniDisc
> I was really into MiniDisc until I went to the Switzerland Web Site > and its > seems that every player had problems with it and eventually whether > it takes > 1 month or 1 year, the player shuts down. Like someone said. How many people are gonna say "Yeah, my unit works great!" You know, I got this leather wallet for my birthday and it's still doin it's job. That little piece of plastic with my picture on it that allows me to drive, well, I can still drive. > I talked to a guy I knew > and he > said MiniDisc is on its way out and MP3 is on its way in. He said > in never > shocks because it has no moving parts. U...I think onetime we figured out how much it would cost to do the equivilent on MD and MP3 and it would cost over $1000 to get the storage space and quality you get from a portable and one disc. This sounds great, and also > it will > last 15 hours regardless of what you're doing. It has the same kind > of > features (being able to record from computer, computer, microphone) > as the MD > player, and the slots can hold a lot more memory on it. It seems > upgradable. Yes, for a price. MP3's take up room, face it. Compared to what we CAN do with much better quality, MP3's are just a waste of space and smartmedia and compactflash cards ARE NOT cheap (I just spent $80 for a 16MB Compact Flash card for use in my digital camera.) Also, theres only 2 portable MP3 units that record. The Rio does not have this. Nor does they Lyra. To get 74 minutes on a MP3 player you'd need to balence bitrate and card size (well duh) but that not the point I'm making. Largest cards that exist are 128MB (largest compact flash I've seen, there MIGHT be a 256) and thats at 192kbps. But, who wants to spend $300 for a friggin memory card. It's about $600 total for the Rio while you can get a MD portable and some discs for $300. Hrmm, I wonder. Not only do MP3's sound bad but, to fit a whole CD I'd have to spend close to $300. I've barely spent $150 on blank MD's and I have 24 albums and like, 7 MD's of mixes. One other thing. MP3 is way to overmarked to the point it's stupid. Have any of you seen Samsungs new digital camera. It's only VGA resolution but has a built in MP3 player and it's only like, $289. I paid like $250 for my megapixel Kodak even though it doesn't include the MP3 playback (like I'd want it anyway) > I just dont want to shell out $250 and have it be obselte in a > couple of > years. Nothing ever becomes obselite, it just becomes rare or hard to find. Like Beta. I still use beta. Hell, I just bought South Park, Bigger, Longer & Uncut on Beta. They're still making it, it's just harder to find. Even if it dies down in the US (which I don't think it ever really will, it's lasted this long aganist DAT and DCC and so far CD-R for Comsumer. Even if it does, it has strong ties in other countries. Thank god for the internet! MD is not going out, in fact, in some ways, it's just getting started. -J.R. P.S. (BTW, if anyone was wondering where I did my calculations for the MP3 stuff. I wrote an application (purposly NOT trying to plug) if you want it: http://www.crosswinds.net/~moshchat/dewdude/audiocalc.zip YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Final Year Project
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === If you do a report on formats. Don't forget ePAC and VQF. I use nothing but VQF's now and they sound nice on MD. -J.R. > Hi all, > > This might be a bit off topic, but I guess it's the best place for > me to > turn to for advice. > I am a bit worked up at the moment in choosing my final year project > for > next year, I am hoping to do something associated with audio > compression > (preferably MDs). > I am trying to gather some background information on that, and try > to knock > up a proposal to convince one of my lecturer to supervise with this > project. > I am also trying to keep this as computer oriented as possible, > after all I > am doing Computer Systems degree! > > Could any of you help me out here? Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ambrose > > > = > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MD page : http://www.choyster.freeserve.co.uk/mdtrading.htm > = > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > - > To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word > "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Buying a MD player
I am also open to suggestions but the one I > would like > would at least have 40 Anti-Shock, a Microphone, a jack to connect > to the > headphones jack of my audio equipment, and I dont know much about MD > players > but my range is up to $250, I also would like to know about > warranties that > you get if you order from an online store. I'm looking for the BEST > MD > player my money can buy. Please help Well, for 250 forget it. I don't thing sony even bundles a microphone with any of thier portables, and only one I know of under $300 is the R37 and possibly R50. Neither have a mic. Your thing about 40 sec. Anti-Shock, well. I honestly don't see the need for it. Granted it has it's advantages on battery use, but my portable has 10 (or less with laser being offf) and I've never had it skip in a car/bus/biking/walking etc, and I don't think the time of anti-shock has much to do with recroding, I'm probably mistaken. J.R. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
> > 1) I don't know of any device that can 'see how a chip worked'. > > 2) You're probabably confusing ROM/RAMs with CPUs and DSPs.. To be honest, I have no way in hell of knowing WHAT was done. This is what my friend told me, which is total BS, but, I did view some of the prototype stuff they worked on, such as MP3 ->ATRAC which then using a MD data drive they "burned" onto a MD. I don' t know how it was done, I was only there for 5 minutes, however durning this 5 minutes they made a entire 74 minute disc. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's new Internet Audio Recording Interface
There have been several non-professional software programs made in my area by some people who were able to see how the chip worked and was able to get the code from it (my friends dad worked at a place that had a chip reader). Not that great, but realtime. BTW people who have been around for a while, the freak is back. -J.R. Moore YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
