Re: MD: . DAT recorder question

[Jacob Alifrangis]

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go to www.solorb.com/dat-heads or /datheads
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: MD: . DAT recorder question


>
> Hello-
>
> I remember someone posting a DAT list address here a while back but I
didn't
> keep it.
>
> I was hoping someone could help me, or point me to a good resource.
>
> I'm trying to buy a portable DAT recorder, but most are out of my price
> range.  I've found one that is, but I wanted to see if it's worth getting.
> It's made by AIWA, and the model number is HD-S100.  It's used from ebay.
> And I'm trying to see if it's a decent unit.  Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
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Re: MD: Direct video to TV monitor

[Jacob Alifrangis]

When I setup home theatre systems I always use the TV's a/v switcher when
possible, this does not necearily provide better quality (AS FAR AS I HAVE
SEEN) however it provides greater simplicity for the non-techie people in
households.

You can switch the AV inputs on the TV by using the TV/Video button on
remotes and keep the AMP off to watch tv if you have a sony (There is a one
button trick to turn off the built in speakers on WEGAs)

then when you want to watch a DVD or something with surround, just push the
speaker off button and set your amp to it's 5.1 input. which was sperately
routed.

hope it helps.


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From: "las" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:44 PM
Subject: MD: Direct video to TV monitor


>
> This is a little off topic but the only tie on to MD that I can think of
> is that an MD player will be part of the system.
>
> Before I moved last year I purchased a very good quality Onkyo AV
> receiver (about $1000.00 list).  As I have always done in the past I had
> originally planned to input all of the video signals into the receive
> and then use the video out on the receiver to a Sony Vega TV monitor
> that I bought.
>
> But it first occurred to me when I found out that the Vega has direct a
> component (Colorstream) input.  So I attached my DVD player directly to
> the TV.  It made sense to me to by pass the video portion of the
> receiver and take all of my other video outputs (there are at least 3
> additionalcomposite/Svideo) video inputs on the Vega.
>
> While this would compliment things because I would have to match the
> video signal on the TV to the audio signal on the receiver, wouldn't
> this increase the quality of the video?  I believe that there are no
> enhancements for video on the receiver, only loads of DSPs for audio.
>
> Any feelings on the matter?
>
> LAS
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Re: MD: Getting MD output into an OEM Car CD player

[Jacob Alifrangis]

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The problem is not replacing the unit, it is the loss of the steering wheel
controls.
I paid an extra 640 bucks to have the steering wheel controls in my car,
(2000 Regal GS) Now There is only one option if I want to replace my head
unit, and that is to buy a 310 dollar add-on for the steering wheel control,
so I can use my (no-longer) extensive list of md's. I use a nomad jukebox
with a car-adapter, and it sounds ok for everything except classical music
and acoustiv guitar pieces.

I would recommmend contacting professional auto sound in westlake village,
CA. they have some solutions that may surprise you. I don't have their phone
number, but the 1.25 you spend on 411 might be worth it.

cheers! Jacob
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From: "las" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: MD: Getting MD output into an OEM Car CD player


>
> "J. Coon" wrote:
>
> > I just changed cars, and my new one is an Olds Silhouette with a built
> > in CD/Am=FM stereo, complete with the radio controls on the steering
> > wheel.
> >
> > With my old car, I just popped a cassette adaptor into it andlistened to
> > my MDs, and when I had to replace that, I got one of the Aiwa units
> > that  has a jack for the MD player.  Now however, I have an OEM CD unit
> > and no jack to connect my MD to.  Has anyone had any good experiences
> > with getting their portable MD unit to play through a stock OEM CD
> > player?  I tried one of those FM RF modulators several years back and it
> > didn't work too well.  Have they improved any? Is there another way?
>
> Hi Jim.
>
> Why is  it that Aiwa seems to be the only company that realizes the
> usefulness of an AUX input??  I tried the FM thing too (the one that
> plugs into the receiver's antenna input) and was so unhappy
> with it that when I had to junk the van it was in, I didn't even bother
> to
> take it out.  The cassette adapter is bad enough.  Nothing sounds as
> good as
> the AUX preamp in.
>
> The shame is that it is impossible for the average person, including
> myself,
> to know how to break into the circuit to add an AUX jack.  The way
> printed
> circuits are today, it may not be possible anyway.  But when you are
> designing the unit, it adds very little expense to the cost.
>
> All the manufacture is adding is the jack, a selector switch and an
> extra
> line in going to the unit's preamp.  These jacks were much more common
> before
> they figured out how to fit a CD player and radio into one compact in
> dash
> unit.  People used to plug their portable CD players in, the way we do
> with
> our MD units.
>
> This may sound like a radical approach, but I would consider changing
> the
> unit to an Aiwa.  They make wiring harnesses for almost every thing out
> there.  Also, most units and the wiring in many, but not all, cars are
> now
> color coded.  But with the harness, you wire it to your new unit and it
> plugs right into the harness in the car.
>
> Believe it or not, I actually got one where they screwed up the color
> codes
> for the speakers and I had to experiment to determine which was which.
>
> If you want decent sound quality, I don't see any other way to do it,
> although perhaps someone else on the list has an idea.
>
> Larry
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RE: MD: Sound Blaster Live Platinum

[Jacob Alifrangis]

no scms if you use creative labs drivers

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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:26 PM
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Subject: MD: Sound Blaster Live Platinum



Does anyone know if its possible to record from the digital out of a MD 
portable to the digital in on the Creative Sound Blaster Platinum card? Id 
there any SCMS? Thanks!


Evan


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RE: MD: How to make audio CDR out of Computer CDR

[Jacob Alifrangis]

no, they're not,

bit 14 in the optimum power calibration sector is on in an audio cd. whereas
it is off in a data cd.

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Subject: Re: MD: How to make audio CDR out of Computer CDR



"J. Coon" wrote:

> Is there a program that can makee a blank audio grade CDR from  a
> computer grade CDR?

Jim, I'm not sure what you are asking?  "music" CDRs and "data" CDRs are
just a gimmick to charge more for the music CDRs.

Again, am I misunderstanding your question?

Lawrence



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RE: MD: [Fwd: Digital Recording Experiment (Sorry, No Direct Mando Content)]

[Jacob alifrangis]

That looks like ATRAC Loss to me

Try that with a dat


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Subject: MD: [Fwd: Digital Recording Experiment (Sorry, No Direct Mando
Content)]



Here is some food for thought. 

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Subject: Digital Recording Experiment (Sorry, No Direct Mando Content)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:57:54 -0400
From: David Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Consider this experiment:
GIVEN:
A (home) minidisk deck has a digital in and out, interfaced to a
computer with Sound Blaster card and digital SPDIF connectors. That
computer is also loaded with CoolEdit 2000 which has, among other neat
features, the ability to generate a 1000 Hz square wave and save it as a
WAV file. Imagine this file is then recorded (again via digital SPDIF)
by the MD and then played back from the MD into the PC again. TO FIND:
Should the "send" and the "return" .WAV files be identical, since the
process is digital thoughout? If not, why not? ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
To stimulate your thinking, please examine the actual results captured
as screen grabs from directly out of CoolEdit: The "send" file":
http://www.hometown.aol.com/dbettsxx/Waves/send.jpg
The "return" file: http://www.hometown.aol.com/dbettsxx/Waves/return.jpg
Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
- David (I Am Curious, Digital)
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MD: Minidisc FAQ

[Jacob alifrangis]

I have setup the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to accept
updates, changes, and new submissions to the minidisc FAQ.

However, I have sadly seen no posts to this address. Is anyone still
interested in doing this project?

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RE: MD: MD FAQ

[Jacob Alifrangis]

The email address I gave earlier. Will be up momentarily.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:51 PM
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Subject: Re: MD: MD FAQ



just so we can have this straight, send to you means, the email address
your posting from or the email address you gave earlier?

marc
(who has nothing against the current faq's, but thinks we can get ALOT
more info going)

On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 01:54:39PM -0700, Jacob Alifrangis wrote:
> 
> Send me what you've got and I'll make it look the best.
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RE: MD: MD FAQ

[Jacob Alifrangis]

I agree, Let's take this to the highest possible level of accuracy and
look/feel.

I will be responsible for maintaining the files and editing their
content for grammar/punctuation.

Send me what you've got and I'll make it look the best.

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I'm all for it and will contribute if i can

might i also dissuade from the use of FaqOMatic or anything like that.
We can make this look so much more professional and usable for beginners
by hand.

marc

On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 08:52:48PM +0100, Stuart Howlette wrote:
> 
> Any more votes for this cause or is that it, two people?
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RE: MD: MD FAQ

[Jacob Alifrangis]

If, when done, you send the finished or unfinished work, my way, I will
have my editor-in-chief edit and compile the thing.

We could roll it into a book and publish it later, as some novelty item
too!

Let's get together! I'll setup an email address for this task called
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if anyone wants it.

Send your submissions there and we'll get to work!

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I've got an idea, why doesn't EVERYONE on this list group together, and
create the most comprehensive MD FAQ in existence? Then, advertise it as
the main FAQ on minidisc.org, and also put it as a link when subscribing
to this list?

--
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RE: MD: Minidisc.org manuals: GIF or PDF?

[Jacob Alifrangis]

Well, PDF Already does streaming, so on a slow connection it will load
one page at a time. Just takes forecver to load the one page :)


I will gladly host the PDFs if space is a concern. I have an unlimited
NAS array (currently 856 GB) 2% in use.

So if wanna, I will host them at my co.lo. They are pretty well
connected too.

>Hi,

I have several PDF format Sony manuals that I am about to put up on the
MDCP and am thinking about junking the HTML+GIF equivalents that are
kept there.  Does anyone see a good reason to keep e.g.

   http://www.minidisc.org/jb940_manual/

  when there now exists:

   http://www.minidisc.org/manuals/sony/sony_mdsjb940_manual.pdf
?<

Rick

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RE: MD: Sony doesn't seem to have a portable MP3 player

[Jacob Alifrangis]

I wonder how many hacks tehre are for the Open MG Systems to trick it
into thinking that it can take unsecured music?

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Subject: Re: MD: Sony doesn't seem to have a portable MP3 player



> Actually they do make a portable solid-state MP3 player: The Clie! 
> (okay, it's a handheld PDA running PalmOS with MP3 playback 
> capability, see: http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/clie/index.html). The 
> funny thing is this note:

Ok, a bit overkill, but it certainly fits the bill of being portable!
If its anything like my old Palm Professional, it would be about the
size of an MZ-R50.  My Palm Professional was, without the case, almost
the exact same size as my R50.

Of course, the R50 sounds a lot better than my Palm Professional ever
did.
;-)

> So, you can't use a bigger, non-MG memory stick to hold your 
> non-secure MP3s? Looks like Sony wants to snooker you into having the 
> capability to hold secure audio whether you need it or not!

Um?  That's whacked.

What is it that makes ATRAC3-encoded music more secure than MP3 anyway?
Or rather, what is it that makes Sony THINK that ATRAC3-encoded music is
more secure than MP3?

The capability to hold "secure audio" is something I don't really care
for.  I just want to be able to listen to music I've copied from my CD
collection and do the occasional live recording - I don't want to jump
through hoops unless I get an obvious benefit from it.  For my R50, the
benefits are size, the remote control (when biking, I keep the R50 in my
backpack and the remote on my shirt), and recordability - the hoops to
jump through are the slow recording speeds and airport security asking
me to explain the battery pack for it (only happened once though).

What's the benefit of secure audio?

Erm, sorry, that mini-rant wasn't directed at anyone in particular, just
the music industry in general.

-- Dave Kimmel
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RE: MD: RE: Future of MD

[Jacob Alifrangis]

 
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I think it has something to do with the re-write technology

It looks like there is a small magnetic head on top (Overwrite head)
that might be used to zap the current secotr into mush so it can be
overwritten. thanks

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Just a thought.

Why didn't Sony make MD double sided? Could have followed the
analogue cassette analogy (!) and given twice the recording time for
almost the same cost?

Alan

(Who wonders if he's missing a very, very obvious reason why not...
Ready to look daft :o) )

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Hmmm, come to think of it:

To flip a disc over to get 500 MB isn't so hot. SDMI, ugh. IF
ONLY Sony/Sharp would make MD devices that could take the 650 MB
discs, and maybe give MD recorders data transfer capability? Now THAT
would be hot. Imagine: Throw like 2 hours of music onto it, a few
photos, maybe a small game, and some data files you need, all on one
convenient disc/recorder. Drool.

Gerard Naude
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RE: MD: Anti shock

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Actually if it's buffering the atrac data, it could buffer 200
seconds, and keep buffering at the regular speed in 1.0x realtime.
Thatway the disc would only stay on at 1.0x speeds.



Yes, if the disc would be spinning all the time, the buffer would
always be full, but the player would always be very loud to always
maintain that 200 second buffer.

Today, I took my new MZ-R700 out and I can say it is 'jog-proof'. No
problems.

Oh, one problem: How do you all carry that MD-player while running
around in mother nature?

I think sport's stores carry something that resembles a fanny pack,
made of 
neoprene.  i bought one made for a cassette player, and it works
great!  
keeps your player snug to your body.

Christoph
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RE: MD: MZ-1

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My MZ-E2 has this problem as well. (But it's not a recorder) sorry, I
don't know how to fix it on mine.

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hi,

I have an old MZ-1 that started having troubles years ago and i
tucked it away. sony said the head was out of alignment and wanted
150 USD to fix it. at the time that was WAY more money that i could
spend on anything so i just forgot about it.  

recently i pulled it out and started playing w/ it.  When i put in a
MD it makes a clicking noise and takes about 10seconds or more to
recognise the MD, the same thing when i hit play.  after its playing
i can FF or RW(que) or skip tracks back and forth w/ out a problem.

theres limited info on the web about something so old, but i was
wondering if anyone knew of a quick fix for this, i remember at least
one MD unit that service mode could realign the head, but the listing
for the MZ-1 on minidisc.org said this isn't one of them. and to me
it doesn't sound like its a head alignment problem cause otherwise it
couldn't record(it does i tested it same time issue/clicking as play
but it will start eventually) or play.

marc
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RE: MD: DCC?

[Jacob Alifrangis]

Analog is recorded with sine waves, whereas digital is recorded with
square waves, which take up more room.
Also, tapes sound better if the tape is moved past the head faster
(lower density).
So there is less available time that the tape has per foot. So the data
is compressed to make it fit.


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"David W. Tamkin" wrote:

> Danny-K asked,
>
> | I also get the feeling that maybe DCC is not compressed sound?
>
> Sorry, but it is compressed (under an algorithm known as PASC).

I wonder why they would have to compress it?  To me it seems that
digital music shouldn't take up more room than analog?  Did the DCC
offer more music per tape?

Larry

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RE: MD: DCC?

[Jacob Alifrangis]

DCC Uses PASC a derivitave of mpeg, is lossy, but not more than an mp3.

See braindonors.net for more information


Blanks are a real pain to find. But DCC deck for 50 isn't bad.
It will also spit out the analog tapes with S/PDIF and Coax :)

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Subject: MD: DCC?



Hello-

I know this is the MD list, but I figured some of you probably had DCC
players back in the day.

In my ever-lasting quest for a recording medium that provides
optical/digital out (for transfer to PC/CDR) I have come across a DCC
deck.  It's going for $50 on ebay right now, and has optical/coax
in/out.

I also get the feeling that maybe DCC is not compressed sound?  Only
problem is finding blanks.  The guy is giving two blanks with the unit,
and I guess I could just recycle, but does anyone know of a place
selling blank DCC?  Is it worth getting into?  The price is right, but
do you guys think it's totally a dead medium at this point?

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RE: MD: Help with MD-Discam video transfer to PC

[Jacob Alifrangis]

I would check to see if the camera supports usb or firewire (iLink)

Otherwise I would expect this to be another sony-shot-itself-in-the-foot
argument.

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Subject: MD: Help with MD-Discam video transfer to PC




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Hi Bo,

I'm sorry, I really know very little about the MD Discam. I'm forwarding
your note to the MD mailing list with the hope that someone there can
help. Frankly, this is really a question for video users, not the usual
MD crowd.

Rick


"Gyi,Bo X" writes:

>MAY 27, 2001
>
>I bought Sony MD Discam which uses Sony mini disc data2 discs.  I take 
>video recordings of my kids.  I understand the movies are recorded in 
>MPEG2 files.
>
>I want to be able to copy the MPEG2 files from the mini disc data2 disc

>to my computer hard disc so that I can play the movies on my computer 
>monitor. This will also allow me to back up my video recordings on 
>cheaper CD Rom disc.
>
>What I have done now is to connect MD Discam with my computer through 
>video cable and RCA jack and record on my hard disc using ATI Vivo 
>(video capture
>card) and save the movies as MPEG2 files.  I do not know for sure but I
>believe that I lose signal this way because the MD Discam does digital
to
>analog conversion and then the ATI video card does analogue to digital
>conversion.  It is also double work.
>
>I would like to DIRECTLY copy MPEG2 files from MD data2 discs to my
computer
>hard disc.  Does anybody know how to do it?   Are there software or
hardware
>(disc reader) available?  Can you copy with networking and category 5 
>cables?
>
>I would appreciate it very much if anyone knows how to do it and help 
>me out.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Bo
>
>email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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MD: MZ-R55CG Autorecording Start

[Jacob Alifrangis]

Ok, Well I bought a second MZ-R55 Unit with the intention to use a
tandem/relay recording setup but the unit I bought (Clearance) has the
auto-recording problem.
I can send the unit to sony no problem, but what is this problem exactly.
I've heard a lot about this problem, but I cannot find any info on it.

Cheers!

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RE: MD: DAT list?

[Jacob Alifrangis]

Yeah I will get you the address tonight

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> anyone know if there is a DAT list , like this MD list? ive a few 
> questions i could use answers to.
Yes, there is. But it is not as technical as this one. Here is a link:
http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/

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RE: MD: Serious contender for MD

[Jacob Alifrangis]

With a firmware update, nomads behave just like large cumbersome
hardrives that need a proprietary application to organize files.

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Shawn Lin wrote:

> Laptop HD-based MP3 players are nothing new.
> Here's one that's rather popular with MP3'ers right now...
> 
> http://www.nomadworld.com/welcome.asp

The Nomads are 6Gb too ... but is this replaceable ?
The Nomad is kinda large (more like a portable CD player)
Do the Nomads have the ability to act as a portable HDD (for
any file type?)
I do like the ability to record WAV uncompressed at 48Khz .. Nice.

The bottom line is MD is getting swamped with all these other
new technologies and unless they stay on the ball and start
adding professional and consumer use requirements (like faster
then real time transfers) I believe it will go the way of the
dodo (or should I say the Tassie Tiger which there is a "small"
amount of hearsay evidence that it may not be extinct just yet).

How many others are starting to feel this way ?

Funny part is, if Sony had been listening to it's early adopters
(like the good subscribers to mdl) then they would have had
the jump on all these new technologies and truly cemented
MD's place in history like Vinyl, Compact Cassette and CD (now DVD)
and not considered by the next generation to be just another DCC,
DAT, LD, or BETA  (all of which have their use, but in the "general
public's" view are dead and buried formats).

Cheers   GC

PS:  I recently came across some old video cassettes that I don't
know the history of .. they are huge (50% larger then VHS and
really thick) I've never seen a player that can play them ... 
anyone know something about these?

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