Re: MD: A question...

[Jeanmougin]

At the beginning of MD, Sony sold a portable recorder with digital
optical out. Nowaday, the only equipments that have digital out capacity are
MD decks. They very often have optical out but the high-end decks have
TOSLink and S/PDIF.
Concerning me, the only equipment with digital out I own is a Sony JE 530
(excellent deck) that has one optical out only.

Don Capps a *crit :

> ...for all the MD gurus.
>
> Does anyone know of a MD Recorder that has a digital out (optical or spdif
> or what-have-you) other than the rather pricey HHB Portadisc professional
> recorder? Any? Thanks in advance.
>
> Don C.
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Re: MD: mr-z30 problems

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Maybe your unit is quite old. Do you often use these buttons? This may explain
your problem.
Anyway, how do u enjoy the MD I sent you (The Corrs MTV Unplugged)?

Mike Hooker a *crit :

> hi,
> my trustry mz-r30 is no longer trusty. it seems the display and mode
> buttons no longer work. i cant change from stereo to mono record mode with
> the mode button. i cant change the display from time elapsed to time left
> either. i set the clock, something i never did before, and cant get the time
> to display after the clock has been set. has anyone had this problem before?
> unless a home fix is available, i doubt it is worth sending out. any and all
> ideas are most appreciated.
>
> see my music trading page:
> http://pages.zdnet.com/mikehooker/hookstradingpage
>
> have fun,
> Mike Hooker
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Re: MD: MDLP- makes a good thing better!

[Jeanmougin]

In the normal (SP) mode, you record 60, 74 and 80 minutes of stereo music. You
also have a LP mode that doubles the record capacity but the sound is monaural
not stereo.
New MD products have normal mode, mono LP mode and MDLP. MDLP consists in two
new modes: recordind durationx2 and x4 in STEREO!
The "normal" or SP mode encodes music at 292 kbp/s. If you want to increase the
recording time, your data must be more compressed. In LP2, data is encoded at
131 kbp/s. In LP4, at 66 kbp/s. You notice that LP2 isn't exactly the half of
SP (292/2=146) and LP4 isn't the 1/4 of SP (292/4=73).
The remaining bytes are used to allow backward compatibility. Non-MDLP products
won't read MDLP tracks but will be able to edit them.

In SP mode, you record in true stereo at 292 kbp/s= near-CD quality (maybe more
but it's another debate).
In LP2, you still record in stereo at 131 kbp/s = loss of quality
In LP4, you record at 66 kbp/s in JOINT-STEREO. First, your bitrate is very low
(encode a song in MP3 format at this bitrate and listen). Two, this is
joint-stereo. To gain place, LP4 searches for similarities in the stereo
channels and encode them in one step. AS a result, you will have a bad sound
due to a big compression (66 kbp/s) and joint-stereo (the channels are mixed
together).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a *crit :

> >equivalent of a car trunk full of vinyl stored in milk crates for example.
> >MDLP will bring about the fact that this small satchel or gig bag will hold
> >twice or four times the equivalent -- bring on the flexibility and variety
> >for performances.
> >
> >With regards,
> >
> >Simon Mackay
>
> Mmm I have some catching up to do
> this is the first time I heard of MDLP.
> How does it work exactly.
> different pitch smaller pits ??
>
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Re: MD: ATRAC3, MD DATA, MDLP

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i think that the structure of a MD Data is different o a MD Audio. The result
is that a MD DATA won't be playable in a MD Audio equipment.

Howard Chu a *crit :

> Now that there's readily available software for encoding music into ATRAC3,
> has anyone
> used their MD DATA drive to write an MD DATA disc that's playable in an MDLP
> player?
>
>   -- Howard Chu
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Re: MD: Which stereo system (with integrated minidisc) should I buy?

[Jeanmougin]

there are a lot of products. You'd better have a look at
http://www.minidisc.org. Look for "Equipment browser" on the left column.
Robin, 50 Watts is already very powerful except if u want to sonorize a
night-club or something like that.
Your optical out, you want it on the CD player or on the CD recorder. If you
take a stereo system, you have great chances to have your optical out on the CD
player (maybe that's what you're looking for). If you already own an amplifier,
look for a good cd deck with analog and digital out (coaxial or optical) and a
md deck with digital I/O.
Personnally, I've been looking for a stereo system like you. But finally, I
bought a Sony MD deck that is great. It's the MDS-JE530, it has coaxial,
optical and analog in and analog and optical out. I plugged little speakers on
the PHONES out with an adapter and it's great!
Moreover, I make a lot of analog recordings so I can make digital copies of
them.

Robin Landy a *crit :

> I am looking to buy a new stereo system. I want a multi-CD changer
> (3+), integrated minidisc and a radio tuner. I would also like an
> optical out, (in case I ever get round to buying an MDLP portable). I
> like my music loud, so speakers need to be 50 watts+. I do not need a
> tape deck. I would like the sytem to be relatively stylish -
> preferably in matt silver.
> Does anyone have any suggestions for systems which fit all / most of
> the above specs. Bare in mind that I am in the UK, so  Japan / US
> only models would probably be prohibitively epxensive to ship. I
> looking to spend less than 400 UK pounds.
> Cheers.
> Robin.
>
> 
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Re: MD: Track labelling

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As a Mac user, i ignore if there's a possibility to title tracks with your
computer keyboard. Moreover, the mz-r55 isn't the best Sony recorder if you
want to title tracks. The best were the mz-r30 and mz-r50 ( I've got both of
them+ Sharp 722 and a mds-je530).
Why didn't you buy a mz-r50?

Nat Evans a *crit :

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> I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this is a topic that has =
> been done to death before.
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> I've got a Sony MZ-R55 portable recordable MiniDisc system, I've also =
> got a digital soundcard on my PC. What I want to know is if there are =
> any programmes out there (preferably free- or shareware) that will allow =
> me to label tracks on recorded MiniDiscs using the computer keyboard. =
> Any information would be very welcome as I'm getting a bit sick of =
> spending good time having to label by scrolling through the characters =
> on the lcd screen.
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Re: MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

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when we talk about "digital" or "analog" recording , we talk about the method
to transfer the music. Digital---> S/PDIF (coaxial cable) and TosLink
(optical)
 Analog---> analog cable (RCA or mini-jack)

Whatever type of cable you use, the music will be digitally recorded on the
disc. The only difference is that when you use digital cables, you do not
pass through digital/analog then analog digital conversion hence less
artifacts. When you record with analog cable, you pass through D/A-A/D
conversion. But nowadays, analogue recordings are excellent ( I've made a lot
of them cause they have the advantage to allow a second-generation digital
copy (or more but in this case you need a scms stripper).
Cedric a *crit :

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> I'm a french MD user and I have a few questions. I'm only a beginner and =
> I need some help.=20
>
> Here's my problem: I want to record digitally on my minidisc portable =
> recorder. My stereo doesn't have any optical output and my computer =
> doesn't have a digital or a coax output. I'm wondering if I definitely =
> need my computer with another sound card or if I can do it with my =
> stereo.=20
>
> When I record from the 2xRCA connections of my stereo to the analogue IN =
> of my MD, is it digital or analogue recording?=20
>
> If it's only analogue, can I record digitally from my stereo that has =
> 2xRCA connections (By the way, what's the difference with coax =
> connections?) to my MD (with a digital IN) by using a little unit that =
> sits between the stereo and the MD and converts the signal from the =
> stereo into an optical format signal? For example, the Midiman CO2 unit, =
> which has coax I/O and optical I/O is used for digital recording from a =
> computer soundcard.=20
>
> If this works, would it send trackmarks to my MD recorder?=20
>
> If this doesn't work, do I absolutely need a optical output to record =
> digitally from a stereo?=20
>
> If so, the only other solution for me (if I don't want to buy a new =
> stereo) is to buy a digital out soundcard and to record from my =
> computer, isn't it? Would you buy one if you were in my place? Which one =
> is good value for its price?=20
>
> Finally, I'd like to know what provides the best sound quality and the =
> worst. Why?=20
>
> - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the analogue IN=20
>
> - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the digital IN using CO2 unit=20
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> - recording digitally with an optical OUT soundcard=20
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> Thanks a lot !=20
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Re: MD: What's the best way for me to record digitally?

[Jeanmougin]

Les connexions RCA sont des prises blanches et rouges. Si tu les branches a
ton Midiman CO2 pour utiliser la sortie optique et ensuite enregistrer
nmériquement, ça ne marchera pas.

La différence entre RCA et coaxial? Les RCA sont rouge et blanc (2 prises en
tout, une pou chaque canal stéréo) le cable coaxial n' a qu' une prise quie
est souvent dorée.

Cedric a *crit :

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> I'm a french MD user and I have a few questions. I'm only a beginner and =
> I need some help.=20
>
> Here's my problem: I want to record digitally on my minidisc portable =
> recorder. My stereo doesn't have any optical output and my computer =
> doesn't have a digital or a coax output. I'm wondering if I definitely =
> need my computer with another sound card or if I can do it with my =
> stereo.=20
>
> When I record from the 2xRCA connections of my stereo to the analogue IN =
> of my MD, is it digital or analogue recording?=20
>
> If it's only analogue, can I record digitally from my stereo that has =
> 2xRCA connections (By the way, what's the difference with coax =
> connections?) to my MD (with a digital IN) by using a little unit that =
> sits between the stereo and the MD and converts the signal from the =
> stereo into an optical format signal? For example, the Midiman CO2 unit, =
> which has coax I/O and optical I/O is used for digital recording from a =
> computer soundcard.=20
>
> If this works, would it send trackmarks to my MD recorder?=20
>
> If this doesn't work, do I absolutely need a optical output to record =
> digitally from a stereo?=20
>
> If so, the only other solution for me (if I don't want to buy a new =
> stereo) is to buy a digital out soundcard and to record from my =
> computer, isn't it? Would you buy one if you were in my place? Which one =
> is good value for its price?=20
>
> Finally, I'd like to know what provides the best sound quality and the =
> worst. Why?=20
>
> - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the analogue IN=20
>
> - recording from the 2xRCA connections to the digital IN using CO2 unit=20
>
> - recording digitally with an optical OUT soundcard=20
>
> Thanks a lot !=20
>
> Cedric
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Re: MD: Speeding

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I tought that when you burnt a CDR at speeds over 1x or 2x, u had more read
errors.

"J. van de Griek" a *crit :

> Mike Burger wrote:
>
> > The one thing that I didn't see noted, yet, is that if you're burning CDs
> > for use in regular CD players, it doesn't matter how fast your burner can
> > run...you still need to burn the CD at 1x for a regular CD player to read
> > them.
>
> You didn;t see that noted because it's hogwash.
>
> Burn your audio CD's as fast as you want, your CD player will still play
> them at 1x speed, since that's what it's designed to do.
>
> ,xtG
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Re: MD: SCMS

[jeanmougin]

OK. So, SCMS strippers don't remove SCMS. They change the SCMS status to pass-by
the interdiction.
If I play a digitally recorded MD on a deck and I use a SCMS stripper between
the optical out of the deck
and the optical in of a recorder, I'll pass-by the SCMS interdiction. But what
will be the SCMS status of this new digital copy (unlimited copy or one
generation allowed?)?

David W. Tamkin a écrit:

> Jeanmougin wrote,
>
> | When you make a copy of a CD with optical cable, SCMS is implemented on
> | the MD.
>
> SCMS was implemented on the CD to start, but it was set to allow one gene-
> ration of digital copying.  Permission to copy does not mean absence of SCMS:
> SCMS is the *system* (that's what the second S stands for) and it is imple-
> mented on all consumer digital audio media.
>
> [The problem with saying "this doesn't have SCMS" or "there's no SCMS here"
>  to describe an SCMS-compliant recording that allows copying is that saying
>  it that way destroys the distinctions among (1) a recording or signal whose
>  SCMS bits allow one generation of copying, (2) a recording or signal whose
>  SCMS bits allow unlimited generations of recopying, and (3) a storage format
>  {such as a .wav or .mp3 file on a hard disk} or a transmission protocol
>  {such as AES/EBU or an analog signal} that truly does not carry SCMS infor-
>  mation.  Only type #3 can properly be described as "not having SCMS."]
>
> | The copy bit 10 is written and prevents a second generation digital copy.
>
> "10" is the designation for "no further digital copying" on DATs; on MDs it's
> actually "01" (in bits 6 and 5 of the segment's status word).
>
> | But is it the MD recorder that puts SCMS protection on the disc or does the
> | MD recorder only write the copy bit of the source?  In other words, is it
> | the digital out of a deck (CD, MD) that sends the SCMS status or is it the
> | MD recorder that writes the SCMS status during recording?
>
> Both.  (Pardon the anthropomorphisms here, but they do facilitate the expla-
> nation.)  The source machine reports the SCMS status of whatever it is play-
> ing and the destination machine decides how to respond.  If the source sends
> out "I am playing an SCMS-penultimate recording" in its S/PDIF output, then
> the destination machine decides "This signal is SCMS-penultimate, and I obey
> SCMS, so I must mark the copy I'm writing as SCMS-final."  When you try to
> copy an SCMS-final source digitally, it is the destination machine that de-
> cides, "This signal is SCMS-final, and I obey SCMS, so I won't record it."
> A professional-grade recorder might have logic instead of say, "I'm receiving
> an SCMS-final signal, but my switches are set to disobey SCMS and to write
> SCMS bits that allow unlimited recopying (or to write SCMS bits that allow
> one more generation, or however the switches are set), so that's what I'll
> do."
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MD: SCMS

[jeanmougin]

When you make a copy of a CD with optical cable, SCMS is implemented on
the MD. The copy bit 10 is written and prevents a second generation
digital copy. But is it the MD recorder that puts SCMS protection on the
disc or does the MD recorder only write the copy bit of the source?
In other words, is it the digital out of a deck (CD, MD) that sends the
SCMS status or is it the MD recorder that writes the SCMS status during
recording?

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Re: MD: 60 Minute MD?

[jeanmougin]

Sony still produces 60 minutes MD but it's true that the 74 minutes is the
best-seller. Like you, I hate to use 4 MD74  just to record 50 or 55 minutes.
Moreover, MD 60 are more and more rare.

Jason Selwitz a écrit:

> Does anyone still make the 60 minute discs they were a bit cheaper that the
> 74s and I hate not filling a whole 74 minutes if I'm just recording
> something that's just 60 minutes or less...
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Re: MD: Sharp MS-722

[jeanmougin]

You say that the Sharp 722 has no editing functions? Is it a joke? You have a
button called EDIT or something like that. You access to DISC NAME, TRACK NAME,
COMBINE, DIVIDE, TRACK ERASE, ALL ERASE functions.

Moreover, on my Sharp 722, when I press RECORD, I can change the recording levels
with the remote ( with << and >> slider).
 Finally, Susan, I don't think that there's no portable recorder with more than 3
bass levels.

Charles Redell a écrit:

> susan wrote:
>
> > i like the 722,
>
> > Also I
> > would like a remote with recording functions.
>
> The 722 remote does have some recording funtions.
>
> Obviously, pause and stopand record
>
> The track skip slider (where the play button is) adjusts the record level (not
> that the remote is backlit so you still have to look at the unit to see what
> level you are peaking at).
> The slider on the stop button, if you push up (marked "Bass Mode") gives you
> track marks.
>
> There is no labelling or editing as far as I  know.
>
> > with an option to override and refine the levels of bass and treble.
> >
> I, for one, would love that. Are there any portable units with a better eq than
> three levels of Bass boost?
>
> C
>
> > Susan
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MD: track marks problem linked with a digital recording

[jeanmougin]

Some days ago, I made a digital copy of the Corrs MTV Unplugged album. I

noticed that the total recorded time on MD was inferior to the total
time of the CD. When I played the MD, I noticed that a lot of the tracks

were amputed of 1 second or 2. The result is that it's quite unpleasant
to listen cause it is a live concert. When you listen to the CD, there's

no interruption in the disc (especially between the songs where you hear

the audience). On the MD, at the end of some tracks, you can hear the
audience but it's suddenly cut by the beginning of the new track.

To solve this problem, I decided to make an analog copy. Cause I use
sync-rec and due to the fact that there's no interrution in sound, I had

a 64 min 12 sec long track. Then I put the track marks manually (very
easy with jog wheel of the Sharp 722).

Is there a solution to make a digital recording without track marks?




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MD: track marks problem linked with a digital recording

[jeanmougin]

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Re: MD: *THEY* should know better

[jeanmougin]

that new MD looks cool but how much does it cost? will it be a limited edition
or a new type of MD?

Simon Barnes a écrit:

> Tuesday's news:
>
> (Kingsley Smith) Sony fights back the tide of budget priced discs with their
> JPY2800 ``Flagship'' Dual-layer MD2000 discs (machine translation to
> English).
> [http://www.minidisc.org/md2000/index.html]
>
> They are 'aving a larf (cockney accent). Talk about form over function. I
> want one. Individually serial numbered. Priceless. What more can I say ?
>
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MD: Track marks problem linked with digital recording

[jeanmougin]

Some days ago, I made a digital copy of the Corrs MTV Unplugged album. I

noticed that the total recorded time on MD was inferior to the total
time of the CD. When I played the MD, I noticed that a lot of the tracks

were often amputed of 1 second or 2 (even more sometimes). The result is
that it's quite unpleasant
to listen cause it is a live concert. When you listen to the CD, there's

no interruption in the disc (especially between the songs where you hear

the audience). On the MD, at the end of some tracks, you can hear the
audience but it's suddenly cut by the beginning of the new track.

To solve this problem, I decided to make an analog copy. Cause I use
sync-rec and due to the fact that there's no interrution in sound, I had

a 64 min 12 sec long track. Then I put the track marks manually (very
easy with the jog wheel of the Sharp 722).

Is there a solution to make a digital recording without track marks?




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Re: MD: Trace and Map URLs

[jeanmougin]

Jim Coon, do u know a program for Mac that makes the same thing than
VisualRoute?

J. Coon a écrit:

> This has no minidisc content, but i thouhgt people might be interested
> in it.  basically you run the program and put in a web address.  The
> program will trace the route,  similar to the function of tracert, and
> ping plotter, but it also shows the location of each hop, and a map of
> the world with the route drawn on it.  The demo is good for 30 days, and
> I think it is $26 top register it after that.  In any case it is
> interesting to try it out.
>
> http://www.visualroute.com.
>
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Re: MD: A Reason not to Buy Sharp 722?

[jeanmougin]

I'm the happy owner of a Sharp 722 and I must say that's a very good unit. Ok,
compared to the Sony R50 I also own, it's less beautiful. But for the rest, it
is very good.
- It's bought with TOSLink optical cable AND a RCA-stereo mini plug cable.
- You have a slot-in mechanism that is more robust than clamshell.
- You have a jog dial very useful for titling, choosing edit functions, browsing
between the tracks, etc...
- It's bought with a RCA cable and an optical cable.
- You have a good autonomy with the rechargeable battery.
- The sound quality is very good and there are 3 levels of basses.
- You can change the recording volume during recording (very useful for
recording concerts or MP3s on your computer).
- The best feature IMHO is that you have recording synchronization for all
inputs (optical, line, microphone)!

There's just a minor drawback: there's no separate headphones/line out !!! :(
That's why I use my Sony MZ-R50 when I play some music through speakers or in
the car with a cassette adapter !!! :)

But don't hesitate to buy the Sharp MD-MS722 !

Stainless Steel Rat a écrit:

> * "James S. Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  on Fri, 02 Jun 2000
> | I am about to buy a portable minidisc recorder. I keep coming back to
> | the Sharp 722 as my first choice. I know it is "older" technology since
> | it was released three years ago.
>
> You are mistaken.  The MS722 was released late 1999 or early 2000.  The
> MS702, its immediate predecessor, is a contemporary of the Sony MZ-R30.
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MD: Track marks problems linked with digital optical recording

[jeanmougin]

Some days ago, I made a digital copy of the Corrs MTV Unplugged album. I
noticed that the total recorded time on MD was inferior to the total
time of the CD. When I played the MD, I noticed that a lot of the tracks
were amputed of 1 second or 2. The result is that it's quite unpleasant
to listen cause it is a live concert. When you listen to the CD, there's
no interruption in the disc (especially between the songs where you hear
the audience). On the MD, at the end of some tracks, you can hear the
audience but it's suddenly cut by the beginning of the new track.

To solve this problem, I decided to make an analog copy. Cause I use
sync-rec and due to the fact that there's no interrution in sound, I had
a 64 min 12 sec long track. Then I put the track marks manually (very
easy with jog wheel of the Sharp 722).

Is there a solution to make a digital recording without track marks?

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Re: MD: Record overwrite

[Jeanmougin]

What is the interest of overwriting?

Simon Mackay a écrit:

> ===BEGIN QUOTE==
> Is there such a function in the Sony JE530 deck?
> If yes, how do I activate it? I couldn't find anything like that in the
> manual.
> =EBD QUOTE==
>
> Speaking from experience with using a JE520 that I sometimes borrow, to do a
> "record overwrite", you select the track which you want to overwrite using
> the AMS knob, place the unit in PLAY-PAUSE mode then press RECORD.
>
> The top line will display "Overwrite" when you press RECORD and the timing
> display will show the track number, with a flashing "Tr" as well as the
> elapsed or remaining time on the disc.
>
> When you press PLAY to start recording, you then are overwriting the rest of
> the disc.
>
> The JE530 would use the same procedure for this practice, since it is based
> on the JE520.
>
> With regards,
>
> Simon Mackay
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Re: MD: MD to MP3? what programs?

[Jeanmougin]

As a Macintosh user, I found a little program called Coaster at
http://www.download.com. You can record with the line input of your
computer you plugged to the line-out of your MD recorder. I just had to
set the line-in level to avoid clipping.
When I finish, the file is saved in AIFF. After that, it's possible to
encode it in MP3.
This is how I've been able to make a MP3 of Final Fantasy Irish jig.

J. Coon a écrit:

> What is the best program to use to convert a recording I made on my
> Minidisc to an MP3 file?
>
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MD: TOC

[Jeanmougin]

So, I asked myself, when you record something on a MD and after you
erase it, the TOC is edited. But is the recorded material physically
erased or is its access impossible due to the TOC updating (like on a
hard drive)?

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Re: MD: Sharp ST55 mini-review

[Jeanmougin]

You changed a recorder (Sharp 702) by a player (Sharp ST55) and you call this an 
upgrade ???!!! Ah ah ah ah

Owen Williams a écrit:

> After owning a sharp 702 recorder for two years, I decided it was time to upgrade to 
>a new player mostly because the 702 skips horribly when poked at all.  After checking 
>out various web pages and resources, I settled on the sharp st55, the latest and 
>smallest MD player on the market currently.  I won't bore you with measurements and 
>such, they're all available on minidisc.org.  I will just give you a basic feature 
>rundown.
>
> I got the unit from sawada denki mail order, and it arrived extremely well packed a 
>week after they got my payment.  This unit really is small.  Inside the box is a 
>little pouch, and in the pouch is the player.  I almost set the pouch aside thinking 
>that it was empty!  Other things in the box:  a handy battery holder, if you get an 
>extra; a 100V (not US-compatible) wall wart; charger; hand strap; AA case; and crappy 
>earbuds.  I don't have my 120-100V converter yet, so I can't attest to the battery 
>life as advertised.  The NiMH battery ships empty (as usual) so I am (right now) 
>using the AA attachment.  The manual is 50 pages, 45 of which are Japanese.  Oh well. 
> The limited english pages are enough to get started.
>
> The ST55 is the most elegant piece of electronics I own now.  Like the photos show, 
>it is plain brushed metal with a minimum of text.  It is certainly a very different 
>style from my old 702 :).  The raised part in the center has a sweet blue light in it 
>that goes on when you charge the unit, and when you push buttons.  It basically 
>lights up whenever you would expect the LCD backlight to come on.  The unit opens 
>sideways, and the opening is on the left.  While this is where the remote connects to 
>the unit, nothing gets in the way, and inserting and removing discs is quick and easy.
>
> The unit's buttons are on the top, and include Vol +/-, Stop, and |<< >>|.  The 
>track forward button doubles as play.  There is NO PAUSE BUTTON on the main unit, 
>which pisses me off.  To set the unit on "Hold," you just have to hold down on the 
>stop button until the little light on the front blinks once.  The buttons are 
>plastic, but they seem solid.  The unit is _completely_ silent when playing, and 
>makes only quiet little laser noises if you switch tracks far away.
>
> The remote is ok, but I don't really like it a lot.  It has two pseudo-jog dials on 
>either side.  Basically they are little flimsy plastic wheels that you rotate in a 
>direction to push that button.  The stop button is right where your thumb goes when 
>to clip the aligator clip on your pocket.  The clip seems to fall off my jeans 
>easily.  The LCD display shows all you really need to know, like track number (always 
>on, which is good), text display, battery life, and that little spinning disc.  On 
>the 702 you couldn't see what setting the bass level was on; if you pushed the button 
>it would increase the level.  This has been changed so that the first time you press 
>it is shows you what it's already on.  A big improvement.
>
> The sharp st55 is a great piece of electronics.  Even with the AA attachment I 
>barely notice it in my pocket.  I don't know why anyone would pay for a RIO when you 
>can get electronics that are this cool, and the discs cost 2$ a piece.  If you want 
>to get in on sawada denki's prices, you better hurry because at the end of may they 
>are ending their mail order side of business.  Web site: 
>.  Don't let the quality 
>of english ("Cut the price!!") fool you, these guys are slick and professional.
>
> If anyone has any questions, or there's something I missed, just email the list.
>
> Owen Williams
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MD: Cardioid mics

[Jeanmougin]

When you have mics with clips, where do u put them? On your shoulders
(not very stealth)? Or near of your collar?



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Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording?

[Jeanmougin]

All the portables have  stereo microphone inputs but the majority of mics are
powered with low voltage. The consequence is that if you plug them to the mic
input, you will have to raise the recording volume and, in that case, you will have
a backgroung noise (caused by the mic input). So, you'd better use mics with a
battery box that allows mics to be plugged to line input (less, less noisy). For
more details, go at www.soundprofessionnals.com .

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> Hi all!
> My wife's a music teacher and needs a portable (not personal) MD system to be
> able to replay CDs and MD to classes and individuals - so far, so good. But she
> also needs to be able to make reasonable quality, stereo recordings of her
> pupils' performances. We can't find a boombox or mini/micro system (if the
> latter, we would have to be able to strap it together to move it from room to
> room) on sale in UK with this facility. One answer would be a MD-compatible
> system with a separate portable, but this would be more vulnerable to being
> "lifted", possibly more expensive and less convenient. Can anyone advise on a
> suitable system or have I missed something (eg can one record via a mic into the
> line input? If so, what sort of mic?). It does seem dumb to me that with MD so
> brilliant for live recording so few units (other than portables) have stereo mic
> inputs!
> Thanks and regards, John Rolt.
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Re: MD: T Mark

[Jeanmougin]

I think this the default setting. There must have a silence of 2 or 3 seconds
between two tracks and when I say silence, it means that the vu-meter must
nothing. At the end of a track, you may have the mpression that there s silence
but there's still a little entry level. The problem with LP (are LP vinyl
discs?) is there's always a little parasite noises caused by the sapphire on
the disc.
It seems that you have no other solution than putting the track marks manually.

Marc a écrit:

> Can the R70 be set to place an automatic T Mark or index mark, when the
> silence between cuts off an LP is of sufficient length?
>
> Can any of the following do so, and how often did they miss a Mark, (ie. I
> assume if the silence is too short, it will not get marked.):
> Sony R90
> Sony R55
> Sharp 831
> Sharp 821
>
> Do all these units (including R70) sample at 20 bits? (not related to T Mark
> ?)
>
> The problem is, when I record the whole side of an LP, unattended, I later
> have to FF through the MD and manually mark the beginning of each cut.  What
> a waste of time.  Such an easy function is unexcusable not to have as an
> on/off option.  Even if the function overmarked a bit, that is easy to
> correct and not even necessary to correct.
>
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Re: MD: Sharp

[Jeanmougin]

You have to use your rechargeable battery. For the external battery case and
which type of battery is allowed, you'd better check your user manual for
details. But I'd say that the use of rechargeable AA batteries isn't
recommended. I may be wrong but that's what I think.

Gordon, Richard a écrit:

> Hi,
> I have a sharp minidisc and was wondering if I can use standard rechargeable
> batteries in there? Or are they Sharp specific?
> thanks
>
> Music by MiniDisc
> http://www.mp3.com/richgordon
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MD: Sharp 722's battery life

[Jeanmougin]

I've got a Sharp 722. It is said to have an autonomy of about ten hours
in plays mode and 8 when you record. But I have the impression that the
real autonomy is inferior to what is claimed by Sharp. How do they
measure the autonomy? At which volume and which bass level (0, 1, 2, 3)?
I always listen music at volume 8 and bass level 3?
So, is it 10 hours of playback maximum or is my battery to be changed?

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Re: MD: Concert taper

[Jeanmougin]

how do I do to put a Sharp 722 in my undergarnments and walk naturally?
Generally, do they check with attention or do they make it quickly? Is the
decurity service expected to use metal detectors?

Roger a écrit:

> To the guy that was asking about mic concealment, etc.  I have a MZ-R55
> and simply hide it in my undergarments (ahem) to get past the security
> rubdown--never fails.  Then, I just place the mic (I have the Sony rc-91
> (I think that's the model, it's about a 1.5 inch cube, cost me 90 bucks)
> on my shoulder and get as close to one of the speakers as possible.  Using
> this technique, I have only gotten thrown out of one concert (Cake in
> Chicago--don't forget:  they can't ever take your personal items away from
> you), but the recordings aren't the best.  I wish there was a way to get
> better recordings without having to get so close, maybe a better mic...?
> Or something that adjusts the levels, anybody else wanna help?  Ah well,
> I'm off to do it again tonite, Nerfherder and the Bloodhound Gang.  Good
> luck getting your MD's onto CD, though, it's a big hassle from what I've
> found out...  Remember:  it's not bootlegging until you sell it for your
> own personal gain.
>
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MD: microphones concealing tips

[Jeanmougin]

I ask this question to people that record concerts with MD recorder and
microphones. How do u dress? Where do u conceal the recorder, where do u
conceal mics (when u know that they often have 5-6 feet long cables) and
battery box in order to avoid body checks by the security service?


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Re: MD: EasyBuy2000 MPTrip Discman

[Jeanmougin]

It's looks really interesting WHEN you already own a computer, a modem and a
CD-R grabber. But if you only own a MD, I think it is not useful (regarding
the compacity, the re-recording possibility and the editability). Moreover,
why a CD with all your music. I prefer to have one or several CDs for every
kind of music.

Ryan Shoemaker a écrit:

> I hate forwarding MP3 news to the list, but thought
> this might be of general interest:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/freshgear/firstlook/story/0,3679,2559255,00.html
>
> Comments?
>
> --Ryan
>
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MD: MD

[Jeanmougin]

Why audio MD can't record data. How can the recorder make the difference
between audio data stream and computer data stream? Explain me.

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MD: Higher capacity MDs possible?

[Jeanmougin]

60 minutes MD spins at 1,4 m/s linear.
74 minutes MD spins at 1,2 m/s linear.
80 minutes MD has the same linear speed than 74 minutes MD and thinner
groove to increase the capacity.

So, is it possible to make MD with a groove as thin as MD 80's but with
a slower linear speed to increase the recording capacity (why not MD 90
or 100 minutes of stereo recording?)

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MD: digital copy of an analog recording

[Jeanmougin]

One friend lent me a MD with Conan the Barbarian soundtrack. It is an
analog recording so I can make a digital copy of it. But will I be able
to make a digital copy of this copy?
Moreover, when you make a digital copy with optic fiber, is there a loss
(even unoticeable)?

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Re: MD: These differences in MD -- what are they?

[Jeanmougin]

Can you indicate the URL of this japanese anti-MD website? Is it in english?

Leon a écrit:

> Before I begin: These arguments are not necessarily my arguments - since you
> asked, I thought I should summarize them.
>
> In case you haven't heard of it, there's an entire Anti-MD website in Japan.
> With the way MD is in Japan, it's really compressing the market share of
> other formats(cassettes, DAT), and they just don't think this should happen.
> But anyway...
>
> The major criticism of MD is that it sounds unusually "weightless".  Some
> people who are used to CD finds MD equipments dont sound substantial enough.
> There's a tendency for the sound to be extremely bright on MD equipments.
> This is described as a "hard" sound (as opposed to supple).  It's very nice,
> but can also be tiring to listen to.
>
> Another aspect is that, people think that on some tracks MD sounds "noisy"
> if there are several "layers" of sound (instruments) appearing together.
> Maybe is it true that ATRAC creates "pre-echo noise" (noise that precedes
> the actual sound being compressed), but again I can't comment on that.
> ---
> Personally, I'd like to hear what people think about the first criticism I
> mentioned above. It's perfectly possible for any audio equipment to be tuned
> like that, but you hardly ever hear a CD or cassette portable that sounds
> "light" in the same way. So a reasonable question is: why do they tune MD
> portables like this?
>
> And please, don't give us the double blind test crap. That doesn't solve any
> questions. Are you blind? *g*
>
> Leon
>
> P.S. Sony EX70 can be very nice if you own a Panasonic portable. Makes the
> sound very pleasant. It doesnt sound like something that goes well with Sony
> portables.
>
> > From: "J. C. R. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:27:07 -0500
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: MD: These differences in MD -- what are they?
> >
> >
> > Many have claimed lately to hear some differences in MiniDiscs and
> > compact discs.  Exactly what ARE these differences?
> >
> > J. C. R. Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: MD: Analog Recording Quality

[Jeanmougin]

When you record with the analog input, the MZ-R55 takes care of the input
level. When there's no audio signal during 3 seconds or more, it adds a new
track mark.

Damien Saunders a écrit:

> Ok Im still a newbie when it comes to recording ... well no ... but I
> thought I'd get myself a 3.5mm - 3.5mm lead to record from the PC to MD
> and yes it seems to work.
>
> Now the user manual for the MZ-R55 talks about additional track marks
> being added due to poor noise quality but I didnt expect this...
>
> Watched while the recording was happening  ... shows one track at
> 7.47mins BUT when the TOC Edit function  finished I had 13-17 tracks
> most of them were 0sec in length a few up to 30sec (with bits of the
> original track) and I had one track that was 7.30mins in length
>
> And I cant even remove the track marks as some of those short tracks
> contain parts of another track and dont fit in
>
> Tell me I'm crazy .. tell me its the the MD i used ... but  what the
> &**#@$%$#% does this mean?
>
> Damien
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MD: mz-r30 in X-Files

[Jeanmougin]

You're right. The man uses a mz-r30 to record the conversation from the
distance. Using a MD is cool but the best is the type of microphone
employed to do it: it is a laser microphone. Very compact, stealth, no
EM or RF emissions. Detectable only with a laser detector.

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