RE: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
Exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself. It is definitely a problem, good to see I'm not the only one.. Nathan White [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not the AVLS, and no we are not deaf. A lot of this depends on how you are using it. I have had a lot of walkmans, diskmans, ect over the years and I'd have to say that the MZ-R90 has the weakest headphone output of anything I have ever listned to. The only way you can get decent sound is to use earbuds, and those screwy cheap headphones that Sony USA packs in with their MD players. Even then you better not be riding on a train or anything because the sound of the things around you (I mean things like rustling papers and conversations, not just the train) will heavily drown out the music. When you turn up the volume to the point you can hear it (ie: MAX) , then the quality of the sound get's really bad as the puney 5mw amp cannot push a full range of sound at that level. When using the Digital MegaBass, the sound get's even worse as the high end keeps it's enhancment, but the amp cannot keep up with the low end so it just drops of totally, leaving you with a rather squeaky sound. Quite crappy. This is why external headphone amps are so popular with the MD-nerd crowd. They just want sound quality! If you try using *real* headphones, like DJ stuff, the resistence is too much and the volume level drops even more. Where as my DJ mixer at home has a headphone output that it amazingly powerful. I wear glasses, and when I have headphones on at the same time as my glasses I can actually *see* the vibration of sound when the volume is cranked about 3/4 due to the headphones vibrating my glasses. And it still sounds good. Of course I don't demand this kind of sound quality from a tiny little box like an MD player, but maybe 1/4 of that power would be nice. Of course if you are just sitting on the couch listning to a well made recording with no noise around you, the output is fine. In fact the first two notches on the volume indicator are good enough for when I listen to MDs to go to sleep at night. I think it's rather pitiful that the MZ-R90 is such a capable device, with so many functions, etc, that it truely is an amazing piece of late-20th century technology, but it's really sad that the headphone output sucks so bad on a piece of equipment that cost over $300, when really a headphone amp is the simplist component in the entire unit! To me it really mars an otherwise perfect player. I can almost guarentee this shortcoming is due to power saving, as is the very very sluggish transport. I surely apreaciate the amazing batery life of modernday players, but I'd like to see two different modes (like, Power Saver, and Power Hogger) or something so that when one wants more power in the headphone amp, or speedier response on the cue buttons, they can get it. This should not be a problem really since who really needs 12 hours every time they leave the house? When the extra AA is attached there is plenty of battery mass to get good time, and power from a MD player. Chad Gombosi - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
>as with the loud part. u need to turn off AVLS... > > -WiLL >ps. mines loud enough It's not the AVLS, and no we are not deaf. A lot of this depends on how you are using it. I have had a lot of walkmans, diskmans, ect over the years and I'd have to say that the MZ-R90 has the weakest headphone output of anything I have ever listned to. The only way you can get decent sound is to use earbuds, and those screwy cheap headphones that Sony USA packs in with their MD players. Even then you better not be riding on a train or anything because the sound of the things around you (I mean things like rustling papers and conversations, not just the train) will heavily drown out the music. When you turn up the volume to the point you can hear it (ie: MAX) , then the quality of the sound get's really bad as the puney 5mw amp cannot push a full range of sound at that level. When using the Digital MegaBass, the sound get's even worse as the high end keeps it's enhancment, but the amp cannot keep up with the low end so it just drops of totally, leaving you with a rather squeaky sound. Quite crappy. This is why external headphone amps are so popular with the MD-nerd crowd. They just want sound quality! If you try using *real* headphones, like DJ stuff, the resistence is too much and the volume level drops even more. Where as my DJ mixer at home has a headphone output that it amazingly powerful. I wear glasses, and when I have headphones on at the same time as my glasses I can actually *see* the vibration of sound when the volume is cranked about 3/4 due to the headphones vibrating my glasses. And it still sounds good. Of course I don't demand this kind of sound quality from a tiny little box like an MD player, but maybe 1/4 of that power would be nice. Of course if you are just sitting on the couch listning to a well made recording with no noise around you, the output is fine. In fact the first two notches on the volume indicator are good enough for when I listen to MDs to go to sleep at night. I think it's rather pitiful that the MZ-R90 is such a capable device, with so many functions, etc, that it truely is an amazing piece of late-20th century technology, but it's really sad that the headphone output sucks so bad on a piece of equipment that cost over $300, when really a headphone amp is the simplist component in the entire unit! To me it really mars an otherwise perfect player. I can almost guarentee this shortcoming is due to power saving, as is the very very sluggish transport. I surely apreaciate the amazing batery life of modernday players, but I'd like to see two different modes (like, Power Saver, and Power Hogger) or something so that when one wants more power in the headphone amp, or speedier response on the cue buttons, they can get it. This should not be a problem really since who really needs 12 hours every time they leave the house? When the extra AA is attached there is plenty of battery mass to get good time, and power from a MD player. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
That is not the problem. I always have AVLS off. The main problem is probably my listening environment, which is a noisy bus. I can't wait till the F90 by Aiwa comes out. I hope it has all the features of the old F80. We shall see I guess... Nathan White [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 24, 2001 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90 as with the loud part. u need to turn off AVLS... -WiLL ps. mines loud enough - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
Yeah, what matters a little permanent hearing loss, as long as it means you can have your music LOUD? > > as with the loud part. u need to turn off AVLS... > > -WiLL > ps. mines loud enough > - To > stop getting this list send a message containing just the word > "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = Jeffrey E. Salzberg, Lighting Designer Online Portfolio - http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg This Day in Arts History - http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg/arthist.htm = - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
as with the loud part. u need to turn off AVLS... -WiLL ps. mines loud enough - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
if you can do without MDLP then the aiwas, especially the AM-F80, are the best machines for live recording. not sure about how loud the F80 goes cos i never play it very high - the r90 was always loud enough for me... the main advantage the aiwa portable recorders(except the new f90...?) have is backlit display on *both* the unit and remote, as well as saving all the recording settings(manual v auto, rec levels) after stopping recording which the r90 doesnt do. the backlight on the unit makes adjusting levels easy! when i used to record live with the r90 i used the light from the remote to adjust the levels(yeah it was a bit difficult). >>>>> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:21:24 -0500 From: "Nathan F. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90 I want to get rid of my R90 because of two reasons: 1) no good for live recording (very hard to adjust levels in the dark) 2) Doesn't go even close to loud enough. I set the rec levels as high as they will go, and its still too quiet. I use sony 888 earbuds. Anyone have any recommends? Thanks, <<<<< _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
> I want to get rid of my R90 because of two reasons: > > 1) no good for live recording (very hard to adjust levels in the dark) > 2) Doesn't go even close to loud enough. I set the rec levels as high as > they will go, and its still too quiet. I use sony 888 earbuds. > > Anyone have any recommends? Thanks, YES GIVE IT TO ME HARHARHAHR!!! I MAKE THE JOKE BECAUSE I LOVE. -- -Nicholas Christ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sony R900 vs. R90
I want to get rid of my R90 because of two reasons: 1) no good for live recording (very hard to adjust levels in the dark) 2) Doesn't go even close to loud enough. I set the rec levels as high as they will go, and its still too quiet. I use sony 888 earbuds. Anyone have any recommends? Thanks, Nathan White [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Heckman Sent: March 22, 2001 11:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Aiwa AM-F90 is here on 3/22/01 7:38 PM, Leon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is the first peek, there should be an official news release within the > next 24 hours (based on past incidents). Aiwa says the F90 will be launched > on April 1st. Yeah, April 1st is right. The unit looks suspiciously like my R900, right down to the button positions, the dual jog levers (and positioning) and the display. Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | Always try to be a little kinder than is necessary. | | -- James M. Barrie | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
