Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording
>John Rolt wrote: >Hi all! My wife's a music teacher and needs a portable (not personal) MD >system to be able to replay CDs and MD ... she also needs to be able to >make reasonable quality, stereo recordings of her pupils' performances. The Sanyo MCD 3100 is a really nice boombox with MD, CD, & tape, and a microphone input. I found an old posting by Oscar Fowler, (04 Jan 1999): http://194.125.145.43/products/uk-product.asp?id=89 which suggests it was marketed in the UK. Aivar - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording?
John Rolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone advise on a suitable system or have I missed something (eg > can one record via a mic into the line input? If so, what sort of > mic?). It does seem dumb to me that with MD so brilliant for live > recording so few units (other than portables) have stereo mic inputs! You can add a low cost pre-amp to a home MD deck. In the US, Midiman makes a nice sounding, reasonably priced pre-amp: the Flying Calf. Rolls and many other manufacturers also make them. Jeanmougin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All the portables have stereo microphone inputs but the majority of > mics are powered with low voltage. The consequence is that if you plug > them to the mic input, you will have to raise the recording volume > and, in that case, you will have a backgroung noise (caused by the mic > input). So, you'd better use mics with a battery box that allows mics > to be plugged to line input (less, less noisy). For more details, go > at www.soundprofessionnals.com . This isn't quite right. The battery box you refer to is not a microphone pre-amp. It does not allow you to use the line input when otherwise you couldn't. All it does is provide a voltage to either provide the mic's operating voltage when the recorder can't, or in an attempt improve its performance. All current portable MD recorders (e.g., Sony, Sharp, Aiwa) can provide an adequate voltage to drive the unmodified Panasonic mic capsules used in ourt Low Cost Binaural microphone set, so in general, you should rarely need a battery box unless you are recording *extremely* loud sounds. If you do use a battery box with unmodified Panasonic microphone capsules, you'll find that you get *higher* distortion, though the mics will handle higher sound pressure levels before they overload. Using the battery box actually increases microphone self-noise unless the microphones are modified. For example, our Core Sound Binaural and Core Sound Stealth Cardioid microphones are modified so that they have lower self-noise, more than 20 dB more dynamic range, much lower distortion at high sound pressure levels, flatter frequency response, and less potential for mic pre-amp overload. They require the use of the battery box that comes with them. I hope that this helps! Len Moskowitz Stealth Microphones (tm), Cables, Interfaces Core Soundhttp://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording?
>Hi all! My wife's a music teacher and needs a portable (not personal) MD >system to be able to replay CDs and MD ... she also needs to be able to >make reasonable quality, stereo recordings of her pupils' performances. > ... >We can't find a boombox or mini/micro system Ever since boom boxes started coming with CD players in them, Line In jacks are rare. Maybe they exist on high-end boom boxes, but other than that, their absence reflects the fact that they had been there mainly for connecting portable CD players. As for direct reording with a mic and MD portable--several years ago I dragged out the only mic I had at the time---a consumer-grade Radio Shack mic!--plugged it in to the original MD, the MZ1, and recorded a lot of background sound effects for a recording project. The results were excellent. I believe that your wife would be pleased with the results, even if you did use the Mic In jack. But, don't use a mic that needs what is called "phantom power." Richard - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording?
Jeanmougin wrote: > > All the portables have stereo microphone inputs but the majority of mics are > powered with low voltage. The consequence is that if you plug them to the mic > input, you will have to raise the recording volume and, in that case, you will have > a backgroung noise (caused by the mic input). I have never run into trouble with background noise from the mike input of a minidisc recorder. The only extraneous noise I have ever picked up using my plug in mike http://www.tir.com/~liteways/Mandolin.html#Microphone has been when I recorded extremely quiet conversations, or tried to record the sounds of nature. Only in these quiet setting, did I have to turn the record level up high enough that I could hear a quiet tick sound every few seconds that sounded like a clock ticking only much slower. It turned out that the sound is the sound of a portable recorder's motor starting and stopping the disc as it records. It is very rare that you have to turn the level up that high, certainly you would not hear that recording someone playing music, even on a flute or soprano recorder. > So, you'd better use mics with a > battery box that allows mics to be plugged to line input (less, less noisy). For > more details, go at www.soundprofessionnals.com . Those are good folk at Sound Professionals and I recommend them. However, you will only need the battery box if you are trying to record loud bands or rock concerts. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording?
If you use a boom box system, you would have to use a preamp to bring the mike level up to the "line-in" level. It works on the home deck units, the boom box would have to have a Line-in input for that to work. My guess is that a preamp and boom box would be a little less prone to being lifted because they are bigger. The separate recorder is a lot handier for recordeing though. If it were me, I would go with the portable recorder. You can get a deck or md boom box to play it back or if youwnat to save a little money you can just use a tape cassette boom box and one of those cassette tape adaptors to play the MD through the boom box. I do it all the time and also use it in the car the same way. For a mike, the one Idesigned works well, and if you are a little bit handy, or can find someone that is, you can make a stereo mike for about $10 US, or somewhere around 2 to 3 quid. I think someone said Maplins carries the mike elements. here are the instructions http://www.tir.com/~liteways/Mandolin.html#Microphone This mike is powered from the portable MD unit, so it won't work with the preamp and deck/boom box combination. The mike has a very good output and the MD units have a wide dynamic range. As such you don't need a battery box to record solo or unamplified music. If you are trying to record loud rock concerts, the battery box with a bass roll off filter, will drop the level to where it can be recorder. Since I just record band practices, jam sessions and amplified acoustic music, I haven't bothered with building a battery box and haven't needed it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi all! > My wife's a music teacher and needs a portable (not personal) MD system to be > able to replay CDs and MD to classes and individuals - so far, so good. But she > also needs to be able to make reasonable quality, stereo recordings of her > pupils' performances. We can't find a boombox or mini/micro system -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording?
All the portables have stereo microphone inputs but the majority of mics are powered with low voltage. The consequence is that if you plug them to the mic input, you will have to raise the recording volume and, in that case, you will have a backgroung noise (caused by the mic input). So, you'd better use mics with a battery box that allows mics to be plugged to line input (less, less noisy). For more details, go at www.soundprofessionnals.com . [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: > Hi all! > My wife's a music teacher and needs a portable (not personal) MD system to be > able to replay CDs and MD to classes and individuals - so far, so good. But she > also needs to be able to make reasonable quality, stereo recordings of her > pupils' performances. We can't find a boombox or mini/micro system (if the > latter, we would have to be able to strap it together to move it from room to > room) on sale in UK with this facility. One answer would be a MD-compatible > system with a separate portable, but this would be more vulnerable to being > "lifted", possibly more expensive and less convenient. Can anyone advise on a > suitable system or have I missed something (eg can one record via a mic into the > line input? If so, what sort of mic?). It does seem dumb to me that with MD so > brilliant for live recording so few units (other than portables) have stereo mic > inputs! > Thanks and regards, John Rolt. > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which > it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any > review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action > in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the > intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > - > To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word > "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: portable MD with mic recording?
Hi all! My wife's a music teacher and needs a portable (not personal) MD system to be able to replay CDs and MD to classes and individuals - so far, so good. But she also needs to be able to make reasonable quality, stereo recordings of her pupils' performances. We can't find a boombox or mini/micro system (if the latter, we would have to be able to strap it together to move it from room to room) on sale in UK with this facility. One answer would be a MD-compatible system with a separate portable, but this would be more vulnerable to being "lifted", possibly more expensive and less convenient. Can anyone advise on a suitable system or have I missed something (eg can one record via a mic into the line input? If so, what sort of mic?). It does seem dumb to me that with MD so brilliant for live recording so few units (other than portables) have stereo mic inputs! Thanks and regards, John Rolt. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
