Re: MD: 80/160 minute MDs

2001-03-09 Thread las


payvand wrote:

> but i mean you
> know, at less than $2 a minidisc, i can't complain that much.

I think that it is really important to keep in mind that for about $2.00 or so for an
80 minute MD, it is really a great buy.  You can't get the sound quality or the
durability of the media on a cassette (OK so it would be 10 minutes more in time, but
ten minutes of crappy sound is still crap) even if a cassette is a few cents less.

I wish I had a dollar for every cassette I had to throw away over the years because
the tape got stuck in a unit (usually a car unit) or just got all mess up on it's
own.  The only MD I ever had that got ruined was because my wife spilled a Mocha

Larry

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Re: MD: 80/160 minute MDs

2001-03-09 Thread payvand


On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, las wrote:

> Then there are special LP recorders.  These achieve the extra time by
> decreasing the bit rate from a "standard MD".  You can play a standard MD on an
> LP recorder, but can not play an LP MD on a standard recorder/player.

my home recorder has this MDLP capability, but our portable players (the
blue 60) do not. so i was a little bit upset about that. but i mean you
know, at less than $2 a minidisc, i can't complain that much.

do you guys think are we going to get more portable players in the $100
range with MDLP in the future?

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Re: MD: 80/160 minute MDs

2001-03-09 Thread Taky Cheung



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Can I use a non-MDLP unit to change the track title of a LP track?  Just
curious.


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>
> In response to Jerry's questions about 160-minute MDs, two answers have been,
>
> | You can play a standard MD on an LP recorder, but can not play an LP MD on
> | a standard recorder/player.
>
> and
>
> : Mono discs with play in vitually every MD player ever made.  LP2 and LP4
> : will only play in a handful of new models.
>
> Shorthands are useful for those who are familiar with a topic, but they can
> mislead novices, and it is a poor idea to use them in explaining the basics.
>
> There are no such things as "mono discs" nor "LP MDs."  There are mono tracks
> and LP tracks.  A single disc can accommodate an assortment of tracks in va-
> rious modes; their modes will be indicated in the Table of Contents (or the
> TOC as we commonly call it) and any unit will adjust accordingly on playback.
>
> Second, saying that non-LP MD units "cannot" or "do not" or "will not" play
> MDLP tracks is too terse.  If you try to play an MDLP track in a machine that
> doesn't understand MDLP, it will play as silence.  Certainly that qualifies
> as "not playing," but "not playing" can mean a lot other things as well.  The
> unit will not stick at the start of the track, report an error, eject the
> disc (unless you stop play and eject it), blow up, emit smoke, nor spring up
> and bonk you in the head; rather, it just mistakes the MDLP data for a silent
> recording.
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Re: MD: 80/160 minute MDs

2001-03-09 Thread dattier


In response to Jerry's questions about 160-minute MDs, two answers have been,

| You can play a standard MD on an LP recorder, but can not play an LP MD on
| a standard recorder/player.

and

: Mono discs with play in vitually every MD player ever made.  LP2 and LP4
: will only play in a handful of new models.

Shorthands are useful for those who are familiar with a topic, but they can
mislead novices, and it is a poor idea to use them in explaining the basics.

There are no such things as "mono discs" nor "LP MDs."  There are mono tracks
and LP tracks.  A single disc can accommodate an assortment of tracks in va-
rious modes; their modes will be indicated in the Table of Contents (or the
TOC as we commonly call it) and any unit will adjust accordingly on playback.

Second, saying that non-LP MD units "cannot" or "do not" or "will not" play
MDLP tracks is too terse.  If you try to play an MDLP track in a machine that
doesn't understand MDLP, it will play as silence.  Certainly that qualifies
as "not playing," but "not playing" can mean a lot other things as well.  The
unit will not stick at the start of the track, report an error, eject the
disc (unless you stop play and eject it), blow up, emit smoke, nor spring up
and bonk you in the head; rather, it just mistakes the MDLP data for a silent
recording.

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Re: MD: 80/160 minute MDs

2001-03-09 Thread Timothy Stockman


On 80 minute MDs, the pregroove spiral is "wound" tighter so that
the resulting groove is longer.  80 minute MDs will give 160 minutes
is mono or in LP2 and 320 minutes in LP4.  Mono discs with play in
vitually every MD player ever made.  LP2 (ATRAC3 stereo) and LP4
(ATRAC3 joint stereo) will only play in a handfull of new models.


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Re: MD: 80/160 minute MDs

2001-03-08 Thread las


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> I'm sure this has been asked, but... How do they add the extra 5 minutes to
> 80 minute MDs, and how do they extend the record/play time to 160??
> Is there any difference in quality for these two MDs?
> Thanks,  Jerry

The 80 minutes has to do with the way the discs are preformatted.  I'm not sure
if you are talking about lpMDs or mono when you ask about 160.

Almost every MD recorder available today can record in mono which will double
the recording time, but not give you stereo.

Then there are special LP recorders.  These achieve the extra time by
decreasing the bit rate from a "standard MD".  You can play a standard MD on an
LP recorder, but can not play an LP MD on a standard recorder/player.

If you have ever used Napster, you will notice that the size of the file is not
just related to how long the time of the song is, but the bit rate used.  In
theory at least, a greater bit rate is supposed to give you higher sound
quality.

In reality it depends on numerous factors.  But a song recorded at a bit rate
of 128 will use less memory than one recorded at 196 and up.

larry

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