RE: MD: Back to MD talk

2000-09-09 Thread Dan Frakes


"Nathan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That is exactly what I wanted to say, but I couldn't put words to my 
>thoughts like you have. I think the Imac is another example of the 
>"technophobe" gadget. The Imac seems so useless to me, but looks 
>great, I must add. How could you ever add a soundcard with digital 
>out, or a DVD-rom. Maybe it is possible, if that is the case, bad 
>example.

The iMac is indeed for the entry-level consumer (like any sub-$1000 
computer), but it's FAR, FAR, FAR from a "technophobe" gadget, and it's 
FAR, FAR, FAR from useless.

If you need PCI expansion you don't buy an iMac or an iPaq or any other 
non-PCI Mac or PC. There are different markets and different computers 
for them. People buy iMacs and cheap non-PCI PCs because they want to 
save money and they know that they personally will never need a PCI slot. 
Lest this gets into a PC vs. Mac debate, I'll leave it at that.

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Re: MD: Back to MD talk

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Wall


Well along with this thread kinda, all my friends lately that have been
looking into getting portable mp3 players because they have thousands upon
thousands of mp3's on thier hd's, i've been getting them to buy MD
player/recorders.  They all absolutely love them.  they are expecting to pay
around $700 to $1000 for a portable device with several memory sticks (which
i find stupid as anything) and when they find out they can get a killer
portable with about 100 md's for about 1/2 of the higher end ones, they are
way happy about it.  plus they all have said that MD players look a lot
cooler than mp3 portable devices.  anyway MD has a place for a long time i
believe.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:05 PM
Subject: MD: Back to MD talk


>
> Some how I got in the middle of a long thread that was not related to MD.
> Although I don't think that I was the first person to start this thread, I
know
> that I was certainly not the first person to start previous threads of a
similar
> nature.
>
> So back to MD.  First off.  I refuse to  give up on MD.  It's just that
good.
> With all of the CD  writers out now, it is no longer a matter of copying
songs
> digitally.  The computer can give you better clones because there is no
> compression involved.
>
> But the sound quality of the MD is still excellent.  And when it comes to
> portability, with the exception of solid state (which for the foreseeable
future
> will always be too expensive to use to build a library from) the MD
excels.
>
> But MD has to be MD for the masses in order to really be accepted in the
US.
> The average American, no matter whether he/she is willing to admit it or
not is
> a technophobe.  That's the only explanation I can give for a product as
dumb as
> "WebTV", or portable DVD players.  Buy a notebook computer with a built in
DVD
> ROM drive.
>
> I suppose in fairness that price is also a consideration.  I think that
WebTV is
> a little cheaper then a computer (since you don't need to buy a monitor,
don't
> have a hard drive etc.).  But Americans want it simple.  You put the CD
in.  Put
> the MD in and press one button.  Just like tape to tape.
>
> I don't think the average American cares about or can even hear the
difference
> between a digital MD copy and an analog copy.  Hell depending upon the
quality
> of the equipment it is played back on, I'm not sure that I could.
>
> Maybe there should be a "boom Box with a CD and MD and none of the frills.
> Since it is actually cheaper to make a CD to MD digital connection that
would
> probably still be the way to do.
>
> But no Sony end of search etc.  Make it just like the cassette.  If you
want to
> record over something you just go to the place and record over. No fancy
> editing.  Forget titling.
>
> A portable recorder should come with only an analog input since most
people will
> not have access to a digital output (remember, I'm talking about Md for
the
> masses, not for the people on this list).
>
> Eliminate all of the editing functions.  Have it come with two cords or
detailed
> instructions how to use each.  A 1/8 stereo mini to mini (for recording
from a
> portable CD player and a mini to r and l RCA phono plugs.
>
> No back lights, no remotes no nothing.  Anywhere you stop the disc, you
can
> record over what is on the disc just like a cassette.  Then make the price
of
> the portable recorder under $100.00 and the player about $35.00.
>
> Let people get a "taste" of "MD for dummies".  Gradually many of them will
want
> to move up as they "out grow" the basic system.
>
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RE: MD: Back to MD talk

2000-09-08 Thread Nathan White


That is exactly what I wanted to say, but I couldn't put words to my
thoughts like you have. I think the Imac is another example of the
"technophobe" gadget. The Imac seems so useless to me, but looks great, I
must add. How could you ever add a soundcard with digital out, or a DVD-rom.
Maybe it is possible, if that is the case, bad example.

They should make the "MD for dummies" book; they seem to have everything
else. Anyway, great ideas,

Nathan White
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Subject: MD: Back to MD talk


Some how I got in the middle of a long thread that was not related to MD.
Although I don't think that I was the first person to start this thread, I
know
that I was certainly not the first person to start previous threads of a
similar
nature.

So back to MD.  First off.  I refuse to  give up on MD.  It's just that
good.
With all of the CD  writers out now, it is no longer a matter of copying
songs
digitally.  The computer can give you better clones because there is no
compression involved.

But the sound quality of the MD is still excellent.  And when it comes to
portability, with the exception of solid state (which for the foreseeable
future
will always be too expensive to use to build a library from) the MD excels.

But MD has to be MD for the masses in order to really be accepted in the US.
The average American, no matter whether he/she is willing to admit it or not
is
a technophobe.  That's the only explanation I can give for a product as dumb
as
"WebTV", or portable DVD players.  Buy a notebook computer with a built in
DVD
ROM drive.

I suppose in fairness that price is also a consideration.  I think that
WebTV is
a little cheaper then a computer (since you don't need to buy a monitor,
don't
have a hard drive etc.).  But Americans want it simple.  You put the CD in.
Put
the MD in and press one button.  Just like tape to tape.

I don't think the average American cares about or can even hear the
difference
between a digital MD copy and an analog copy.  Hell depending upon the
quality
of the equipment it is played back on, I'm not sure that I could.

Maybe there should be a "boom Box with a CD and MD and none of the frills.
Since it is actually cheaper to make a CD to MD digital connection that
would
probably still be the way to do.

But no Sony end of search etc.  Make it just like the cassette.  If you want
to
record over something you just go to the place and record over. No fancy
editing.  Forget titling.

A portable recorder should come with only an analog input since most people
will
not have access to a digital output (remember, I'm talking about Md for the
masses, not for the people on this list).

Eliminate all of the editing functions.  Have it come with two cords or
detailed
instructions how to use each.  A 1/8 stereo mini to mini (for recording from
a
portable CD player and a mini to r and l RCA phono plugs.

No back lights, no remotes no nothing.  Anywhere you stop the disc, you can
record over what is on the disc just like a cassette.  Then make the price
of
the portable recorder under $100.00 and the player about $35.00.

Let people get a "taste" of "MD for dummies".  Gradually many of them will
want
to move up as they "out grow" the basic system.

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