Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
I've just got back from participating in a wonderful live music course (fiddles, flute/whistles, accordians). There were 15 people in my fiddle group. 10 had brought minidisc recorders and 4 had analogue cassette recorders. By the end I think we had sold those 4 on minidiscs. The stunning sound quality when replayed through a hi-fi system was enough. The ease of locating tracks, editing out unwanted bits and titling the wanted ones came for free. What a great medium! Peter Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
>From what I can see, Minidisc is doing very well in the UK. The largest home >electronics retailer (Dixons) promotes them really heavily, and you can get players >and discs in a lot of places. Woolworths carry blanks and carrying cases. Also, I know a lot of people who own Minidisc players; certainly more than MP3 players! -Rich Original message from: Shawn Lin >BurninSidy wrote: >> >> I used to read one opinion after another, more and more often about the >> dying MD format. And I was shivering as one who killed a lot of money in >> several portables and decks... > >In my personal observations, MD is only a dying format in North >America. It seems to be doing fairly well in Europe and Asia, but >that's what I gather from what other Europeans have said. Do you notice >MD dying in Europe in your own observations? > >> I've found nowadays an article in a local Playboy ;-) (I live in Romania, >> East Europe) dealing about the new and very expensive Mercedes - >> Benz Maybach. It seems Maybach will become a stand alone premium product >> brand but this is another story... >> The fanciest car I ever saw features a V12 engine, transparent roof, onboard >> bar, tv, radio, cd player and ...hm, hm, a md player... >> So I was thinking to myself, if MD is dying that means nobody will >> produce&sell it anymore. So I could sell my old and "useless" MD stuff to >> those crazy german engineers to be refurbished and accomodated in the new >> Mercedes... > >Oh man, I looked up this Mercedes and I have to say that it may be very >luxurious, but it is HIDEOUS!!! I showed pictures of it to my >girlfriend, and she says, "It's an eyesore!" It's sick to think someone >is going to drop $290,000 (USD) on that horrible looking car. > >Shawn >- >To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word >"unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
on 8/31/01 9:30 AM, Gerard Naude at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Again > This e-mail is not meant to offend anyone. No offense taken. I quite agree with you. IMHO, a big part of this can be laid at the feet of retailers. You have no idea how many times I've tried to find something at a local store only to be completely stymied by the "80% of the market" mentality. In other words, if they think that 80% of the customers that walk through the door might buy a particular item at one time or another, they'll carry that item, otherwise, forget it. Even worse, they seem to be a very poor judge of what new items fall into those categories; making those items unlikely to EVER reach the market saturation they're after. I've seen this most frequently in computer stores, but I've also seen it in other stores. For example, there have been many times when I've needed a SCSI cable for a customer Right Now and I can't find a single vendor in the area that stocks them. Or try and find a vendor that stocks DDS3 or DDS4 backup tapes. (They're higher capacity DAT tapes.) I've only ever been able to find DDS2's in stock even though they're two generations old. Or even try and find a tape backup unit with enough capacity to handle the middle-of-the-road machines they have rotting away in the computer isle! In short, I'm afraid our college MBA (with no real world experience) driven sales and distribution systems are so thoroughly against taking risks of any kind that they're drowning in mediocrity. In fact, it seems that the mediocrity mentality is far too prevalent here in the U.S. among the general population. Our problems with MD are just the tip of the iceberg. 'Sorry for the rant. I just HAD to get that off my chest. :-} Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | In a single day, Samson slew a thousand Philistines with the | | jawbone of an ass. Every day, thousands of dreams are killed| | with the same weapon.| +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
This e-mail is not meant to offend anyone. It is just a general observation. > On the plus side, I've noticed more and more low end units in stores like > Sears, Circuit City and others. Of course, those stores never even carry the > good stuff anyway. I wonder if that trend has anything to do with the lack > of availability? The US market is generally quite a bit slower to adopt certain technologies, where as in Europe, and even here in South Africa, newer technologies get phased in much quicker. One example is mobile phones. Some cell networks in the States are still analogue, but in Europe and the rest of the world, people are already past ordinary digital, and moving towards GPRS networks. Phones also get released later in the US than in the rest of the world (sometimes) e.g. The nokia 9210. In South Africa and in Europe it is already available, but not in the Us (officially). MD is just one more thing. On an other note, they are more quick to adapt other technologies, like broadband internet connections. Generally when it comes to HIGH end sound equipment, or speciality audio equipment, the US is lacking. Also stuff like PDA's are behind in the states. Again This e-mail is not meant to offend anyone. Gerard. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
on 8/31/01 12:57 AM, Shawn Lin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In my personal observations, MD is only a dying format in North > America. Is it really any wonder? When was the last time you could find a decent selection of MD equipment? I currently have a Kenwood MD unit in my car. And I'd love to upgrade it to a unit that uses MDLP, which is PERFECT for use in a car. But the only MDLP Kenwood has released so far with MDLP is the low end unit. The current model equivalent to the unit I have does not have MDLP. And the Sony units just look hideous. I wouldn't want to put one in my Mercedes. (It's old, but it's still has class.) Or consider the MZ-R900. Sony finally released it here not very many months ago, but only in that hideous red color. (I bought a blue one from Japan almost a year ago.) And now they're already shipping an upgraded model to the rest of the world. Or how about a boom box that uses MD? Can anyone even name one that ships in the US? Or a clock/radio/MD? Lets face it. I read about cool MD stuff all the time THAT I CAN'T EVEN BUY! Sony, and other MD manufacturers have been treating the US market like second class citizens. You can't sell products that aren't available. Is it any wonder MD is not doing well in the US? On the plus side, I've noticed more and more low end units in stores like Sears, Circuit City and others. Of course, those stores never even carry the good stuff anyway. I wonder if that trend has anything to do with the lack of availability? Ed "What the" Heckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--+ | Lack of something to feel important about is almost the greatest | | tragedy a man may have. | | -- Arthur E. Morgan | +--+ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
Here are some pictures of it. http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mercbenz1/maybach.htm It doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the Unimog http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/mercbenz1/unimog1.htm Shawn Lin wrote: > > Oh man, I looked up this Mercedes and I have to say that it may be very > luxurious, but it is HIDEOUS!!! I showed pictures of it to my > girlfriend, and she says, "It's an eyesore!" It's sick to think someone > is going to drop $290,000 (USD) on that horrible looking car. > Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
Shawn Lin wrote: > ALL Wal-Marts? > > I'll have to check it out, I don't remember seeing MD at Wal-Mart but > maybe it's there, I noticed they've been totally reorganizing the > electronics section at the Wal-Mart Supercenter that I go to. Perhaps > that reorganization includes MD. > Maybe Best Buy and Circuit City just gave up on it too fast. > > I don't know. Monday was the first time that I ever saw anythng MD in any Wal > Mart. I was a "super store". I'm not sure if that makes a difference. I haven't > had a chance to check the "plain" Wal Mart near me. The super store has a $12 oil change, so every 3 months or so I make a trip there. They only had about 3 units. They were practically lying on the floor! The blanks were given a little better line of sight. They were with all of the other types of blank media. The only blanks that I saw were a Sony 3 pack. I can't remember if they were 6 or 7 (USD). They had a lot more portable CD/MP3 players. Phillips and Emerson (which was only $80). I don't know if we'll see Net MD or not? I'm still not exactly sure just what it is. As I mentioned before, I was surprised that Sony released the R909 if their next move was supposed to be Net MD. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
las wrote: > > Shawn Lin wrote: > > > In my personal observations, MD is only a dying format in North > > America. It seems to be doing fairly well in Europe and Asia, but > > that's what I gather from what other Europeans have said. Do you notice > > MD dying in Europe in your own observations? > > > > Shawn > > But after all of this time Wal Mart has started selling a portable recorder and > blanks. > > Why would they suddenly start selling a dying format? ALL Wal-Marts? I'll have to check it out, I don't remember seeing MD at Wal-Mart but maybe it's there, I noticed they've been totally reorganizing the electronics section at the Wal-Mart Supercenter that I go to. Perhaps that reorganization includes MD. Maybe Best Buy and Circuit City just gave up on it too fast. I'm excited about NetMD breathing more life into the format, but so far it's just been vaporware with no model #'s and no product announcements. Reminds me of all the vaporware products that were announced to breath new life into the Apple II line of personal computers - right before it died (anyone remember those?). Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
Shawn Lin wrote: > In my personal observations, MD is only a dying format in North > America. It seems to be doing fairly well in Europe and Asia, but > that's what I gather from what other Europeans have said. Do you notice > MD dying in Europe in your own observations? > > Shawn But after all of this time Wal Mart has started selling a portable recorder and blanks. Why would they suddenly start selling a dying format? larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The "dying" MD format :-)
BurninSidy wrote: > > I used to read one opinion after another, more and more often about the > dying MD format. And I was shivering as one who killed a lot of money in > several portables and decks... In my personal observations, MD is only a dying format in North America. It seems to be doing fairly well in Europe and Asia, but that's what I gather from what other Europeans have said. Do you notice MD dying in Europe in your own observations? > I've found nowadays an article in a local Playboy ;-) (I live in Romania, > East Europe) dealing about the new and very expensive Mercedes - > Benz Maybach. It seems Maybach will become a stand alone premium product > brand but this is another story... > The fanciest car I ever saw features a V12 engine, transparent roof, onboard > bar, tv, radio, cd player and ...hm, hm, a md player... > So I was thinking to myself, if MD is dying that means nobody will > produce&sell it anymore. So I could sell my old and "useless" MD stuff to > those crazy german engineers to be refurbished and accomodated in the new > Mercedes... Oh man, I looked up this Mercedes and I have to say that it may be very luxurious, but it is HIDEOUS!!! I showed pictures of it to my girlfriend, and she says, "It's an eyesore!" It's sick to think someone is going to drop $290,000 (USD) on that horrible looking car. Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
