Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Karl Gohl]

I replied earlier. Here is a little more info.  I have the Sony
fold up noise cancelling headphones.  Cost about $100.  They do
not completely cancel all noise, but on a plane, they remove the
constant low to midrange rumble that makes it hard to listen to
music on normal headphones.  Without the rumble, you hear other
sounds more than you would normally on a plane. For example, 
the guy across the aisle from me was reading a newspaper and I
could hear the rustling of the paper.

Before I got them, listening to my
MD player on a plane was hardly worth the bother.  With these
headphones, it is quite pleasurable, at least for me (some people
don't like to listen to music unless conditions are perfect).
I don't know if it is the music or just the elimination of the
rumble, but I find that I am less fatigued after a long flight
since I got these headphones.  If you don't have any music playing,
but have the noise cancelling turned on, the rumble will still be
removed but you will hear a low level white noise. I've heard that
some people use them this way to reduce fatigue from flying.

As far as sound quality, I'm no expert, but I'd say the sound quality
is about the same as the headphones that came with my Sharp 702.
I'm sure it's less than high quality headphones, but I doubt that
the difference is that important on a plane -- even with the noise
cancelling, there is enough extraneous noise.

They are a bit less efficient than the headphones that came with the
702.  When using them as regular headphones (i.e. not on a plane),
I have to set the volume 2 or 3 notches higher, so the MD's battery
charge won't last quite as long.  However, on a plane, the noise
cancelling (which, BTW, is powered by an AAA cell in the phones)
permits a lower volume setting than would be needed for the stock
phones, so a charge lasts longer.  With the noise cancelling phones,
my 702 will last for a cross country flight.

Hope this helps.

Karl  



At 09:25 PM 8/30/00 -0500, Matt wrote:
>Well since i'm the one who started this i'll ask another question.  i'm
>leaning towards the sony fold up noise reducing headphones.  the question is
>anyone who has these, how comfortable are they? and how much noise do they
>actually reduce?  i hopefully will not need and amp, fewer components going
>through idiot security at airports is better.  my last flight the security
>guy was such an idiot he actually made me make a call before i could take my
>phone into the airport (freggin retards).  anyway if you have any more info
>on the headphones let me know.
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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Matthew Wall]

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one more time around, ok, i am looking at the fold up open air noise
reducing headphones, but now here is a question for ya.  i actually got to
listen to the sony fold up ones the MDRNC5 and i also got to listen to the
Aiwa HPCN5.  both were similar in sound and comfortability, but the question
comes, what experiences good and bad do people have with aiwa headphones.
i've owned sony before and they were ok.  if aiwa's can take a good beating
that would be great, but if they suck i wanna know that too.


thanks
matt



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From: J. C. R. Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: MD: headphones and airplanes


>
> - Original Message -
> From: Matthew Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> | Well since i'm the one who started this i'll ask another question.
> i'm
> | leaning towards the sony fold up noise reducing headphones.  the
> question is
> | anyone who has these, how comfortable are they? and how much noise
> do they
> | actually reduce?  i hopefully will not need and amp, fewer
> components going
> | through idiot security at airports is better.  my last flight the
> security
> | guy was such an idiot he actually made me make a call before i could
> take my
> | phone into the airport (freggin retards).  anyway if you have any
> more info
> | on the headphones let me know.
>
> A set of those headphones came with my R37 and they are great! You
> really get wonderful sound for such a small size. I listen to a lot of
> orchestral music (classical and Japanese Sailormoon soundtracks) and
> the highs _and_ the lows are reproduced well. The cellos sound great,
> the cymbals sound great.
>
> I am not too sure how well they hide the sound. They aren't horrible,
> I know that much. Maybe someone else will be able to answer that one.
>
> J. C. R. Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[J. C. R. Davis]

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From: Matthew Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


| Well since i'm the one who started this i'll ask another question.
i'm
| leaning towards the sony fold up noise reducing headphones.  the
question is
| anyone who has these, how comfortable are they? and how much noise
do they
| actually reduce?  i hopefully will not need and amp, fewer
components going
| through idiot security at airports is better.  my last flight the
security
| guy was such an idiot he actually made me make a call before i could
take my
| phone into the airport (freggin retards).  anyway if you have any
more info
| on the headphones let me know.

A set of those headphones came with my R37 and they are great! You
really get wonderful sound for such a small size. I listen to a lot of
orchestral music (classical and Japanese Sailormoon soundtracks) and
the highs _and_ the lows are reproduced well. The cellos sound great,
the cymbals sound great.

I am not too sure how well they hide the sound. They aren't horrible,
I know that much. Maybe someone else will be able to answer that one.

J. C. R. Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Matthew Wall]

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Well since i'm the one who started this i'll ask another question.  i'm
leaning towards the sony fold up noise reducing headphones.  the question is
anyone who has these, how comfortable are they? and how much noise do they
actually reduce?  i hopefully will not need and amp, fewer components going
through idiot security at airports is better.  my last flight the security
guy was such an idiot he actually made me make a call before i could take my
phone into the airport (freggin retards).  anyway if you have any more info
on the headphones let me know.


thanks
matt


>
> las <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Dan, someone suggested a site with instructions to
> >make your own.  At $125.00, unless you have money
> >coming out of your butt (which the originator of
> >this thread may have since he takes an MD and DVD
> >player with him!!) don't you think that the price
> >to value ratio is too high?
> >Larry
>
> That depends, Larry   I have friends who claim that any CD player over
> $100 has a price/value ratio that is too high. I also have friends who
> would argue until they're blue in the face that their $5,000 transport
> has a great price/value ratio. It depends on what's important to you, I
> guess.
>
> The Headroom amps have both an amp and their proprietary soundfield
> processor which, IMHO, really does make good headphones sound more like
> speakers and less like headphones. Plus they are designed from the ground
> up to be great headphone amps.
>
> I've never made one of those "do-it-yourself" amps on Headwize. I don't
> know how good they are compared to Headroom's amps. However, keep in mind
> that you have to buy the parts, you have to have the right tools, and you
> have to have the time to build them. Depending on the tools and parts you
> have, and how much your time is worth, $125 might be a better deal even
> if the amps are comparable in quality...
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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Dan Frakes]

las <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dan, someone suggested a site with instructions to
>make your own.  At $125.00, unless you have money
>coming out of your butt (which the originator of
>this thread may have since he takes an MD and DVD
>player with him!!) don't you think that the price
>to value ratio is too high?
>Larry

That depends, Larry   I have friends who claim that any CD player over 
$100 has a price/value ratio that is too high. I also have friends who 
would argue until they're blue in the face that their $5,000 transport 
has a great price/value ratio. It depends on what's important to you, I 
guess.

The Headroom amps have both an amp and their proprietary soundfield 
processor which, IMHO, really does make good headphones sound more like 
speakers and less like headphones. Plus they are designed from the ground 
up to be great headphone amps.

I've never made one of those "do-it-yourself" amps on Headwize. I don't 
know how good they are compared to Headroom's amps. However, keep in mind 
that you have to buy the parts, you have to have the right tools, and you 
have to have the time to build them. Depending on the tools and parts you 
have, and how much your time is worth, $125 might be a better deal even 
if the amps are comparable in quality...

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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[D. Frakes]

"J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>
>I can't get a response from this link. Is it
>a good one?

Sorry, it's:



Their entry-level is the Airhead:


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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[D. Frakes]

"J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>
>I can't get a response from this link. Is it
>a good one?

Sorry, it's:



Their entry-level is the Airhead:


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RE: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Karl Gohl]

At 08:16 AM 8/29/00 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Get the Sony noise canceling phones, either the fold up or ear bud style.
>Makes all the difference!! They come with an adaptor so you can plug into
>the plane's audio system. The bud style are more effective but the over ear
>are comfortable for long trips.
>

I second this suggestion.  I have the fold up ones and they have made
flying much more tolerable.  Even tho the sound quality isn't as good
as high end headphones, the noise canceling is much more valuable
in a plane.

KG
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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Michael Blossom]

I have a pair of Grado SR-60 headphones, and I highly recommend them.  I
read somewhere that they give the best sound with a portable of any
headphones (without an additional amplifier), and I don't doubt it.  I've
been very happy with them.  They are comfortable, too (although I
understand the earlier models weren't).  The only downsides are their
clunky appearance, which I don't mind, and that they don't fold up neatly
for packing.  And yes, they're good for traveling out the wazo via air.

- Mike


>Howdy all, this is yet another headphone question, but hopefully in a =
>completely different way.  lately i've been traveling out the wazo =
>via air.  anyway my MD always goes with me along with my neo geo pocket =
>and a dvd player.  ok, on with the actual question.  I've been using =
>earbuds to listen to whatever i was using at that point.  earbuds are to =
>me getting more and more uncomfortable to wear.  anyway at home when i =
>use headphones i have what i consider a pretty nice set of Denon =
>headphones that are very comfortable.  so the question comes since =
>portable md players really dont like dishing out that kind of power for =
>larger headphones for a long period of time anyone have any suggestions =
>for comfortable earphones that dont suck a lot of juice and sound pretty =
>good?  yeah i know dream on.  but if anyone has any suggestions please =
>let me know.
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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[las]

> When it comes to portable headphone amps, Headroom is THE name:
>
> 
>
> They sell their ultra-portable (i.e. it runs on two AA batteries) model
> for $100 or $125, if I remember correctly.
>

Dan, someone suggested a site with instructions to make your own.  At
$125.00, unless you have money coming out of your butt (which the
originator of this thread may have since he takes an MD and DVD player with
him!!) don't you think that the price to value ratio is too high?
Larry

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RE: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Bob Denton]

Get the Sony noise canceling phones, either the fold up or ear bud style.
Makes all the difference!! They come with an adaptor so you can plug into
the plane's audio system. The bud style are more effective but the over ear
are comfortable for long trips.

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Subject: MD: headphones and airplanes


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Howdy all, this is yet another headphone question, but hopefully in a =
completely different way.  lately i've been traveling out the wazo =
via air.  anyway my MD always goes with me along with my neo geo pocket =
and a dvd player.  ok, on with the actual question.  I've been using =
earbuds to listen to whatever i was using at that point.  earbuds are to =
me getting more and more uncomfortable to wear.  anyway at home when i =
use headphones i have what i consider a pretty nice set of Denon =
headphones that are very comfortable.  so the question comes since =
portable md players really dont like dishing out that kind of power for =
larger headphones for a long period of time anyone have any suggestions =
for comfortable earphones that dont suck a lot of juice and sound pretty =
good?  yeah i know dream on.  but if anyone has any suggestions please =
let me know.

thanks
matt

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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[J. Coon]

Dan Frakes wrote:
> When it comes to portable headphone amps, Headroom is THE name:
> 
> 

I can't get a response from this link. Is it a good one?

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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Dan Frakes]

las <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think that you many also be able to acquire an external headphone 
>amp. But I'm not sure how portable they are. Probably the best person 
>to check with about that would be Len Moskowitz at Core Sound.

When it comes to portable headphone amps, Headroom is THE name:



They sell their ultra-portable (i.e. it runs on two AA batteries) model 
for $100 or $125, if I remember correctly.
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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[Tsuki_yomi]

> Unless someone knows of a specific model, you are going to have to do some
> research.
> 
> Like speakers, headphones all have difference efficiency .  Some require large
> amounts of power while others will produce high volume from a small amount of
> power. I wish I cold be more helpful.
> 
> I think that you many also be able to acquire an external headphone amp.  But
> I'm not sure how portable they are.  Probably the best person to check with
> about that would be Len Moskowitz at Core Sound.

A good place to look for all this sort of thing is..

http://headwize.com/

They have projects for making your own headphone amps as well as give you a
better idea as to what headphones might be better...




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Re: MD: headphones and airplanes

[las]

Matthew Wall wrote:
 so the question comes since =

> portable md players really dont like dishing out that kind of power for =
> larger headphones for a long period of time anyone have any suggestions =
> for comfortable earphones that dont suck a lot of juice and sound pretty =
> good?  yeah i know dream on.  but if anyone has any suggestions please =
> let me know.

Unless someone knows of a specific model, you are going to have to do some
research.

Like speakers, headphones all have difference efficiency .  Some require large
amounts of power while others will produce high volume from a small amount of
power. I wish I cold be more helpful.

I think that you many also be able to acquire an external headphone amp.  But
I'm not sure how portable they are.  Probably the best person to check with
about that would be Len Moskowitz at Core Sound.

Larry


>
>
> thanks
> matt
>
>



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