Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

2006-03-28 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 27, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Dave Wakin wrote:

Not sure what else to check - maybe the PS Filter? I figured I  
would change
that and the fluid and go from there, but I am not sure I am  
looking at the

right peice in the puzzle.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Wakin


	Changing the fluid and filter has cured stiff PS many times. I hope  
that's all you need to do.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

2006-03-27 Thread Dave Wakin

Plan to get change that and see what happens - thanks again for your help

Dave

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump



Dave Wakin wrote:

Thanks for the reply Marshall -

The car has never been in an accident and the problem doesn't seem to be
temperature related as it did it on the way to work today (about 20 or so
out).

I will check the ball joints.

Would a clogged filter do this? What has me confused is after I turned 
and
moved the plastic piece inside the reservoir, the steering seemed to be 
much

better (didn't drive, just moved wheels side to side).


Clearly worth changing the filter and fluid to see if it helps. Ball
joints commonly fail after 150-200kmi. If one is bad, it's prudent to
replace both as they have seen the same service and commonly wear at the
same rate.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

2006-03-27 Thread Marshall Booth

Dave Wakin wrote:

Thanks for the reply Marshall -

The car has never been in an accident and the problem doesn't seem to be 
temperature related as it did it on the way to work today (about 20 or so 
out).


I will check the ball joints.

Would a clogged filter do this? What has me confused is after I turned and 
moved the plastic piece inside the reservoir, the steering seemed to be much 
better (didn't drive, just moved wheels side to side).


Clearly worth changing the filter and fluid to see if it helps. Ball 
joints commonly fail after 150-200kmi. If one is bad, it's prudent to 
replace both as they have seen the same service and commonly wear at the 
same rate.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

2006-03-27 Thread Dave Wakin

Thanks for the reply Marshall -

The car has never been in an accident and the problem doesn't seem to be 
temperature related as it did it on the way to work today (about 20 or so 
out).


I will check the ball joints.

Would a clogged filter do this? What has me confused is after I turned and 
moved the plastic piece inside the reservoir, the steering seemed to be much 
better (didn't drive, just moved wheels side to side).


Thanks

Dave Wakin
this car is the 1990 300TE with 137K




PS pumps fail. Sometimes by leaking and sometimes by not pumping. I
could IMAGINE it pumping okay when cold and poorly when hot. The high
pressure line CAN become occluded (not unusual if the car has had a
front end collision - the hose LOOKS fine) and this might be worse when
hot than cold. If the ball joints rust up (NOT unusual for a car that
sits for months) the steering can get VERY stiff, but it's NOT usually
temperature sensitive. Only new ball joints will fix that.

Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
turbo 237kmi

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

2006-03-27 Thread Marshall Booth

Dave Wakin wrote:
I am hoping someone can give me some pointers on what to check here - the 
car is my wifes 90 300TE with 137K on it. The car was basically parked for 
the winter and we just started using it again.


We took it to my MIL this weekend (about 60 miles), and it was the first 
time I had driven it other then around the block. Not long into the trip it 
felt like the steering started to get stiff and tight, almost like there is 
no power steering. I pulled over and checked the fluid - there was plenty, 
and it was nice and warm. I moved the plastic plunger thing that is in the 
middle of the cup up and down and turned it (not sure what this is, but I 
moved it around).


When I got back in the car, I turned the wheels side to side and they turned 
with little effort. However, back on the road, it seems like it is fighting 
me around corners and turns. I took it to work today, and at startup I did 
the side-to-side wheel test again and it feels stiff again.


Not sure what else to check - maybe the PS Filter? I figured I would change 
that and the fluid and go from there, but I am not sure I am looking at the 
right peice in the puzzle.


PS pumps fail. Sometimes by leaking and sometimes by not pumping. I 
could IMAGINE it pumping okay when cold and poorly when hot. The high 
pressure line CAN become occluded (not unusual if the car has had a 
front end collision - the hose LOOKS fine) and this might be worse when 
hot than cold. If the ball joints rust up (NOT unusual for a car that 
sits for months) the steering can get VERY stiff, but it's NOT usually 
temperature sensitive. Only new ball joints will fix that.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi




[MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump

2006-03-27 Thread Dave Wakin
I am hoping someone can give me some pointers on what to check here - the 
car is my wifes 90 300TE with 137K on it. The car was basically parked for 
the winter and we just started using it again.


We took it to my MIL this weekend (about 60 miles), and it was the first 
time I had driven it other then around the block. Not long into the trip it 
felt like the steering started to get stiff and tight, almost like there is 
no power steering. I pulled over and checked the fluid - there was plenty, 
and it was nice and warm. I moved the plastic plunger thing that is in the 
middle of the cup up and down and turned it (not sure what this is, but I 
moved it around).


When I got back in the car, I turned the wheels side to side and they turned 
with little effort. However, back on the road, it seems like it is fighting 
me around corners and turns. I took it to work today, and at startup I did 
the side-to-side wheel test again and it feels stiff again.


Not sure what else to check - maybe the PS Filter? I figured I would change 
that and the fluid and go from there, but I am not sure I am looking at the 
right peice in the puzzle.


Thanks in advance,

Dave Wakin