[meteorite-list] Archaeology and Meteorites: Iron

2006-11-29 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
   I will be providing more references later
concerning Archaeology and Meteorites.  This article
is about meteoritic iron and terrestrial iron use and
production.  Dirk Ross...Tokyo

The Question of Meteoritic versus Smelted Nickel-Rich
Iron: Archaeological Evidence and Experimental Results

E. Photos
World Archaeology, Vol. 20, No. 3, Archaeometallurgy
(Feb., 1989), pp. 403-421

Abstract
The absence, until now, of evidence for the smelting
of nickel-rich iron ores has led to much speculation
about the respective nature and properties of smelted
nickel-rich iron compared to iron meteorites. The
relevant literature on the latter subject is
critically reviewed. Recently, archaeological evidence
of smelting of nickel-rich lateritic iron ores (bloom,
slag) has surfaced in a second century BC settlement
in north Greece. Experimental smelting of similar iron
ores has shown that there are large variations in the
nickel distribution in the bloom, but only those
sections thereof with a low nickel content could be
worked in a smithy. The heavy losses incurred may have
been one reason why this type of ore was not used more
extensively in antiquity.



 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Archaeology and Meteorites

2006-11-29 Thread bernd . pauli
> Dear Ed and List, Ed, I am sure the list would be interested in seeing
> your Table of Contents or excerpts from your book. This might also
> aid in more sales of your book. I have been looking for a review of
> your book; if you know of any reviews please let us know. Thank
> you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo

Hello Ed, Dirk, and List,

Here is the table of contents.
Happy reading,
Cheers, Bernd:


ISBN 0-9776152-0-0 / Table of contents: / Introduction

01. The problem defined
02. Getting to the crossings
03. The first peoples appear
04. The new peoples emerge
05. Copper trading giants
06. Comet Encke in the Mayan records
07. After the fire
08. The great Atlantic mega-tsunami
09. After the flood
10. The emergence of "Hopewell" societies
11. 536 CE and the end of the Hopewell
12. The Mississippians emerge
13. The Key Marco and Genessee impacts
14. The life of the Mississippians
15. The end of the Mississippians
16. The European arrival
17. Travel tips
18. The state of North American anthropology


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[meteorite-list] Archaeology and Meteorites

2006-11-28 Thread drtanuki
Dear Ed and List,
  Ed, I am sure the list would be interested in seeing
your Table of Contents or excerpts from your book. 
This might also aid in more sales of your book.
  I have been looking for a review of your book; if
you know of any reviews please let us know.
  Thank you.  Dirk Ross...Tokyo

  I encourage Dr. Blakeslee, archaeologist from
Kansas, a member of this list to join the discussion.



--- "E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Sterling, 
> 
> What may be an Iroquoian tradition of the Brenham
> impact is given in "Man and Impact in the Americas"
> (available through amazon.com). I am glad that
> organic
> samples were taken for radio-carbon dating in Steve
> Arnold's hunt. 
> 
> I am sure that the physics of that impact have been
> analyzed, but I don't know if a concise description
> of
> the appearance of that small impact has ever been
> written up.  My guess is that one will probably be
> part of the television special.
> 
> As I mentioned earlier, the "Hopewell" - Cherokee,
> Shawnee - value meteorites. I mentioned Mooney's
> reports of the Cherokee meteorite trade earlier, and
> I
> note here that the Shawnee have a rather elaborate
> vocabulary for celestial phenomenon. When you
> consider
> the astronomical function of "Hopewell" ring
> structures, this should come as no surprise.
> 
> Note that some of the meteorites were found beaten
> into sheets, and near mica - these were mirrored
> surfaces, and as I mentioned earlier, polished iron
> slices, particularly from North American meteorites,
> will find good trade value from artisans at powwow.
> Fire starting irons are valued as well today, and
> this
> is pretty generally held.
> 
> good hunting,
> Ed
> Man and Impact in the Americas
> 
> 
> --- "Sterling K. Webb"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> >  Hi, Doug,
> > 
> >Hijacking your nice thread again...
> > 
> >The tektites in Tikal didn't "find their way"
> > there
> > by any other means than falling out of the sky.
> They
> > have been found in the temples, anciently
> collected,
> > and one much more degraded one has been found
> > in the forests surrounding.
> > 
> >Alan Hildebrandt dated them and they fall right
> > into the upper end of the dating spread for
> > Australite/
> > Indochinite tektites, which, surprise! they look
> > just
> > exactly like. Grab your globe and give it a twirl.
> > Tikal's "antipodal point" is on the western edge
> of
> > the Australo-Asian strewn field. Likewise, an
> > Ivorite
> > was recovered from off shore of the Australian
> > coast.
> > equally antipodal to Ivory Coast, unless you think
> > "the currents" carried it there -:) laughing...
> > 
> >  Casa Grande was found in 1867: "A mass of
> > 3407lb
> > was found in an ancient tomb, E.G. Tarayre (1867).
> > L. Fletcher (1890) implies that this mass was
> > presented
> > to the Smithsonian Institution in 1876. First
> > Description,
> > W. Tassin (1902). Analysis, 7.74 %Ni, G.P. Merrill
> > (1913).
> > Historical note, O.E. Monnig (1939)..."
> > 
> > Somebody asked for referrences on meteorite
> > collecting
> > by early American cultures (Maybe Ed). Here's one
> > about
> > Hopewell meteorite collecting, except it goes on
> to
> > discuss
> > dozens of other cultures, locales, and meteorites
> > including Casa
> > Grandes. It's a nice piece of work by Olaf Prufer:
> >
>
https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/1811/4817/1/V61N06_341.pdf
> > 
> > No surprize, H. H. Nininger wrote "METEORITE
> > COLLECTING
> > AMONG ANCIENT AMERICANS" in 1938. That paper can
> be
> > found at:
> >
>
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-7316(193807)4%3A1%3C39%3AMCAAA%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W
> > but it's where no mere mortal without official
> > access can view it...
> > You can read the first page, though, which is
> enough
> > to see that
> > it covers much the same ground as the paper
> > previously cited
> > (up above this one) which you can get to see (and
> > download).
> > 
> > Handing the thread back to you, Doug.
> > 
> > 
> >  Sterling K. Webb
> > >
> >
>
-
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "MexicoDoug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Martin Altmann"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: 
> > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels
> > -gifts II
> > >
> > >
> > > Whe, Martin, thanks for the kind comments 
> --
> > I re-read my post,  your
> > > words and by all means did take one comment very
> > much to heart.  I'm 
> > > guilty
> > > as charged for not giving further consideration
> to
> > other meteoritically
> > > interested cultures between those Germanic and
> > ancients.  I think Ed would
> > > be the better expert in that department on this
> > side of the Atlantic. You
> > > speak of the Aztecs as a culture with as rich of
> a
> > treatment of things
> > > meteoritic as the medieval traditions in your
> > lands... I'd