Re: [MOPO] [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Laserdiscs

[Colin Hunter]

LaserDisc was never more than a niche format for videophiles in PAL and SECAM 
countries, but it had a long life in NTSC markets such as the US, Canada and 
especially Japan where it was the very first way to purchase HD movies for home 
viewing, albeit it the now-defunct analog MUSE 1080i format.

Colin Hunter
White Hall, MD

> On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Helmut Hamm  wrote:
> 
> A lot of memories are tied to vhs videos, especially the rental tapes were 
> eagerly collected. In Germany, many horror titles like THE EVIL DEAD were 
> shown in cinemas, but later banned on video. The UK has the infamous ‚Video 
> Nasties‘ series.
> 
> No such thing with laser disc, it was just another trend that came, stayed 
> briefly, and went away. I can‘t see much of a chance for a comeback here 
> either.
> 
> Helmut
> 
> 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Juli 2022 um 16:00 Uhr
> Von: "Alan Heimann" 
> An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Betreff: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Laserdiscs
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Alan Heimann 
> Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Laserdiscs
> To: Alan Adler 
> 
> Hi Alan ..I have quite a large collection Of laser disks… Many  deluxe box 
> sets with various books and reproduction lobby cards… I do watch some of them 
> occasionally… I have found that some of the earliest ones in the collection 
> have undergone laser rot but most still play nicely.. as concerns laser disc 
> players the pioneer elite series was always considered pretty much the best 
> that was out there… To find one in pristine condition with the remote is 
> difficult these days and people still ask a lot of money for those, 
> relatively… although most people would agree that the laser disks were an 
> improvement over VHS tape somewhere very poorly produced and not much better… 
> It’s interesting that VHS tape in terms of collecting is making a comeback 
> and I’ve looked into that and although I have a large collection of VHS tapes 
> as well not the ones that collectors seem to be after… I don’t think this is 
> going to happen with laser disks but who knows… Best Alan 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 9:26 AM Alan Adler  wrote:
> Dear Mopos -
> 
> I just came across what appears to be a well-curated collection of laser 
> discs.
> Good titles - boxed sets - noticed Japanese discs - some still sealed - 
> including what I was told by the collector was the best laserdisc machine.
> 
> Before I commit to handling the collection, I wondered what the status of 
> laserdisc collecting was at present.
> Has the VHS craze seeped into the world of laserdiscs?
> 
> Any Mopos out there collect these - or is there some kind of marketplace - or 
> site with titles and values, etc.?
> 
> I always thought laserdiscs were cool but never have found only a few here 
> and there and no machine to play them.
> 
> Any laserdisc specialists in the audience?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Alan Adler
> Museum of Mom and Pop Culture
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Re: [MOPO] Laserdiscs

[Colin Hunter]

The best LaserDisc player is the Pioneer HLD-X0, closely followed by the 
HLD-X9. They play both standard def and high def LaserDiscs using a shorter 
wavelength laser than the standard def-only players. A side-benefit of the 
different laser is they’re much more accommodating of discs which have laser 
rot. A working X0 or X9 in good shape can easily fetch $1,500 - $2,000. Just 
remember to use a stepdown transformer as they expect 100 V AC.

There are many standard def models out there of widely different quality. At 
the very least, you’ll want a player with an RF output jack to handle discs 
with AC-3 surround sound, plus an external AC-3 demodulator to feed your audio 
system. Models such as the McIntosh MLD7020 and Runco LJR II are among the best 
of the standard def range, with the wider marketed Pioneer CLD-97 a respectable 
player, but not quite in the same league as the McIntosh and Runco models.

Colin Hunter
White Hall, MD

> On Jul 1, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Alan Adler  wrote:
> 
> Dear Mopos -
> 
> I just came across what appears to be a well-curated collection of laser 
> discs.
> Good titles - boxed sets - noticed Japanese discs - some still sealed - 
> including what I was told by the collector was the best laserdisc machine.
> 
> Before I commit to handling the collection, I wondered what the status of 
> laserdisc collecting was at present.
> Has the VHS craze seeped into the world of laserdiscs?
> 
> Any Mopos out there collect these - or is there some kind of marketplace - or 
> site with titles and values, etc.?
> 
> I always thought laserdiscs were cool but never have found only a few here 
> and there and no machine to play them.
> 
> Any laserdisc specialists in the audience?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Alan Adler
> Museum of Mom and Pop Culture
> 
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Re: [MOPO] Laserdiscs

[Colin Hunter]

VHS was developed by the Victor Company of Japan (aka JVC, a subsidiary of 
Matsushita), while Betamax was developed by Sony, also of Japan. The earlier 
VCR-LP and VCR video recorders (yes, “VCR” was the name of the format) were 
products of Philips NV of the Netherlands, leaving Cartrivsion as the only 
US-developed home videorecorder format.

Magnavox was the North American arm of Philips NV. It was a Dutch invention, 
although Pioneer was the main manufacturer of LaserDisc players after the 
earliest years of the format, at least in NTSC countries.

Colin Hunter
White Hall, MD

> On Jul 2, 2022, at 7:26 AM, Alan Heimann  wrote:
> 
> talk about coincidences..if i remember correctly and am happy to be 
> corrected..VHS players were developed in the US but rapidly gave way to 
> production by asian companies
> similar story for laser disc players..i do remember the magnovox players as 
> being the earliest out there and i'm not sure but i think the next iteration 
> for discs after discovision was RCA videodiscs
> so coincidentally i visited my favorite vintage store in Greenport long 
> island yesterday and came across a bin having  guess what..7 videodiscs i 
> photo'd the cover for East of Eden
> 
> 
> https://d2j6dbq0eux0bg.cloudfront.net/images/1377056/3133618543.jpg
> 
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:13 PM Jay Johannes 
>  wrote:
> I bought one of the original Magnavox Discovision players on the first day 
> they were available in the Denver test market in Spring of 1978.  I believe I 
> have purchased 4 or 5 players since.  I had well over 700 discs.  Gave all 
> the discs and 2 players to my son-in-law when we sold the house and moved to 
> a senior apartment in 2019.
> 
>  
> 
> Buying laserdiscs was really an adventure those first couple of years.  They 
> were all under the discovision label with the silver boxes.  I would trek 60 
> miles down to Denver twice a week to each of the 6 stores that sold them and 
> look through the boxes of discs.  The dealers could not order specific 
> titles, just boxes with random discs.  About half of the box would be filled 
> with cheap documentary stuff.  National Gallery of Art, Cooking shows, etc.  
> The dealers were stuck with these, and after a bit you needed to sort through 
> large quantities of junk to find any entertainment title.  I ended up buying 
> movies I had little interest in, just because it was something different.
> 
>  
> 
> The discovision discs were interesting in that they were in a CAV format that 
> only had 30 minutes per side.  They often had an odd number of sides and they 
> would place some random title on the ‘dead’ side and disable it by spraying 
> on a coat of matte lacquer.   We soon realized you could wipe this off with 
> rubbing alchohol and see what was there.  About 2/3 were Ford dealer titles 
> on maintenance or sales techniques, but sometimes you would hit gold.  For 
> example, one disc had an experimental CLV format (1 hour per side) copy of 
> the start of Deliverance, complete with the Dueling Banjos number.
> 
>  
> 
> I wrote to Sears and received a free copy of their laserdisc Summer 1978 
> catalog.
> 
>  
> 
> The format nearly died and titles again became scarce in 1981 when RCA came 
> out with their disc format, but it finally took off full force in 1983 or so, 
> when RCA pulled out.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, I had that 1776 disc, that I bought when it came out.  Had the original 
> one without the footage as well.  I bought a number of musicals that never 
> seemed to show up on DVD. And 2 or 3 adult titles.  I watched these discs 
> until I sold the house.  I almost never bought a DVD with the same title, but 
> started buying BluRay titles of my favorites.
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jay Johannes
> 
> 2716 S Promenade CIR APT#9
> 
> Sheboygan, WI 53089
> 
> 970-290-9797
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: MoPo List  on behalf of Alan Adler 
> 
> Reply-To: Alan Adler 
> Date: Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:44 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Laserdiscs
> 
>  
> 
> Great stories!
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks to everyone for sharing their laserdisc epiphanies!
> 
>  
> 
> Keep’em coming!
> 
>  
> 
> There a funny kind of thing to sniff into after all these years and I’m 
> enjoying the process.
> 
>  
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 1, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Glenn Taranto  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> I remember there was a time when the out-of-print Criterions were quite 
> collectable. Years ago when I was selling off my discs and player one of the 
> sets I sold was the Astaire-Rogers box set. It went to a man in Japan who 
> sent me three crisp one hundred dollar bills wrapped in tissue paper and 
> tinfoil through the mail.
> 
>  
> 
> The one disc I kept was a rare pressing of the musical 1776. I played John 
> Adams in high school during the Bicentennial. Naturally the show had a lot of 
> meaning for me. This particular version was the first time the lost footage 
> had been added. That footage was in black and white before they found the 
> right materi

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Re: [MOPO] how does someone join mopo?

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Re: [MOPO] Laserdiscs

[Alan Heimann]

talk about coincidences..if i remember correctly and am happy to be
corrected..VHS players were developed in the US but rapidly gave way to
production by asian companies
similar story for laser disc players..i do remember the magnovox players as
being the earliest out there and i'm not sure but i think the next
iteration for discs after discovision was RCA videodiscs
so coincidentally i visited my favorite vintage store in Greenport long
island yesterday and came across a bin having  guess what..7 videodiscs i
photo'd the cover for East of Eden


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On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:13 PM Jay Johannes <
jay.johan...@smartsensorsystems.com> wrote:

> I bought one of the original Magnavox Discovision players on the first day
> they were available in the Denver test market in Spring of 1978.  I believe
> I have purchased 4 or 5 players since.  I had well over 700 discs.  Gave
> all the discs and 2 players to my son-in-law when we sold the house and
> moved to a senior apartment in 2019.
>
>
>
> Buying laserdiscs was really an adventure those first couple of years.
> They were all under the discovision label with the silver boxes.  I would
> trek 60 miles down to Denver twice a week to each of the 6 stores that sold
> them and look through the boxes of discs.  The dealers could not order
> specific titles, just boxes with random discs.  About half of the box would
> be filled with cheap documentary stuff.  National Gallery of Art, Cooking
> shows, etc.  The dealers were stuck with these, and after a bit you needed
> to sort through large quantities of junk to find any entertainment title.
> I ended up buying movies I had little interest in, just because it was
> something different.
>
>
>
> The discovision discs were interesting in that they were in a CAV format
> that only had 30 minutes per side.  They often had an odd number of sides
> and they would place some random title on the ‘dead’ side and disable it by
> spraying on a coat of matte lacquer.   We soon realized you could wipe this
> off with rubbing alchohol and see what was there.  About 2/3 were Ford
> dealer titles on maintenance or sales techniques, but sometimes you would
> hit gold.  For example, one disc had an experimental CLV format (1 hour per
> side) copy of the start of Deliverance, complete with the Dueling Banjos
> number.
>
>
>
> I wrote to Sears and received a free copy of their laserdisc Summer 1978
> catalog.
>
>
>
> The format nearly died and titles again became scarce in 1981 when RCA
> came out with their disc format, but it finally took off full force in 1983
> or so, when RCA pulled out.
>
>
>
> Yes, I had that 1776 disc, that I bought when it came out.  Had the
> original one without the footage as well.  I bought a number of musicals
> that never seemed to show up on DVD. And 2 or 3 adult titles.  I watched
> these discs until I sold the house.  I almost never bought a DVD with the
> same title, but started buying BluRay titles of my favorites.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jay Johannes
>
> 2716 S Promenade CIR APT#9
>
> Sheboygan, WI 53089
>
> 970-290-9797
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *MoPo List  on behalf of Alan Adler <
> m...@charter.net>
> *Reply-To: *Alan Adler 
> *Date: *Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:44 PM
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] Laserdiscs
>
>
>
> Great stories!
>
>
>
> Thanks to everyone for sharing their laserdisc epiphanies!
>
>
>
> Keep’em coming!
>
>
>
> There a funny kind of thing to sniff into after all these years and I’m
> enjoying the process.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Glenn Taranto  wrote:
>
>
>
> I remember there was a time when the out-of-print Criterions were quite
> collectable. Years ago when I was selling off my discs and player one of
> the sets I sold was the Astaire-Rogers box set. It went to a man in Japan
> who sent me three crisp one hundred dollar bills wrapped in tissue paper
> and tinfoil through the mail.
>
>
>
> The one disc I kept was a rare pressing of the musical 1776. I played John
> Adams in high school during the Bicentennial. Naturally the show had a lot
> of meaning for me. This particular version was the first time the lost
> footage had been added. That footage was in black and white before they
> found the right materials for the dvd.
>
>
>
> I searched everywhere for that laser. On a trip to the very late and still
> lamented Dave's Video on Ventura near Laurel canyon I found a pristine copy
> in the used bin. I couldn't believe my eyes. I scooped it up right away and
> brought it to the front desk to hold for me after I returned from a
> doctor's appointment. I didn't want this rarity sitting in a hot car in the
> San Fernando Valley.
>
>
>
> As I walked out the door to Ventura Blvd. to cross the street to my
> doctor's, who did I see window shopping at Dave's? The one and only John
> Adams himself, William Daniels!!! What in the world are the chances of that
> happening? I spoke to him for a few minutes acknowledging