[MSX] Tilburg 1995, 1996; Zandvoort 1995, 1996, 1997 pictures!
Do you remember the legendary MSX fairs in the huge halls in Tilburg and Zandvoort? Did you miss out on them? Do you want to see what your current MSX friends looked like 7 to 9 years ago? Check the Tilburg and Zandvoort photoshoots on www.msx.org! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
[MSX] Meridian 3.0 beta release in Tilburg 2003
Hi all, Coming next fiar in Tilburg, I'll release the beta version of Meridian 3.0, that's the one with Opl4 support as far as implemented. Gtx Michiel __ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
openMSX tilburg source tarfile
Hi, For those interested in testing openMSX, the current latest release is not that stable, and is not what we demo-ed at Tilburg. I made a special Tilburg release available at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openmsx Remember, openMSX is still alpha software and is not intended for non-developers yet ;-) [But feel free to try it] Have fun! Joost -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: [openMSX-devel] Impressions from Tilburg Fair 2002
'Joost Yervante Damad' wrote about 'Re: [openMSX-devel] Impressions from Tilburg Fair 2002' - Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 03:36:18PM CEST > 'Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha' wrote about 'Re: [openMSX-devel] Impressions >from Tilburg Fair 2002' - Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:25:25PM CEST > > > http://www.worldcity.nl/~andete/MSX/tilburg/ > > > > It would be nice if the photos had legends... > > I'll add legends tonight. Legends are available. If you see yourself in a picture, and there is no name next to it, please send me a [private!] email! Joost -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: [openMSX-devel] Impressions from Tilburg Fair 2002
'Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha' wrote about 'Re: [openMSX-devel] Impressions from Tilburg Fair 2002' - Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:25:25PM CEST > > http://www.worldcity.nl/~andete/MSX/tilburg/ > > It would be nice if the photos had legends... I'll add legends tonight. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: [openMSX-devel] Impressions from Tilburg Fair 2002
> http://www.worldcity.nl/~andete/MSX/tilburg/ It would be nice if the photos had legends... Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Diretor Executivo - A&L Software http://www.alsoftware.com.br http://www.alsoftware.com.br/adrianpage -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Tilburg info
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Maarten ter
Huurne
Verzonden: zondag 21 april 2002 13:33
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Onderwerp: Tilburg info
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From: N=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e9stor_Soriano_?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help! (Tilburg info)
Hey obsoletes! I need information and photos about the Tilburg fair for
SD MESXES#16 which is about to be released... I should have it today, or
tomorrow at the most late. Someone can help me?
Thankxs!!
*** XXI MSX USERS MEETING IN BARCELONA: MAY 5th 2002 ***
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Pictures will follow very soon.
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Re: Tilburg info
'Joost Yervante Damad' wrote about 'Re: Tilburg info' - Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 04:06:08PM CEST > > From: N=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e9stor_Soriano_?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Help! (Tilburg info) > > > > Hey obsoletes! I need information and photos about the Tilburg fair for > > SD MESXES#16 which is about to be released... I should have it today, or > > tomorrow at the most late. Someone can help me? > > > > Thankxs!! > > You can find my pictures at > > http://www.worldcity.nl/~andete/MSX/tilburg/ > > Feel free to use them. They're mainly focussed on openMSX :) > > Joost P.S.: if you need the 3Mpixel versions for printing, just mail me the filenames. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tilburg 2002 photo report
Well, the photo report of Tilburg 2002 is up and running at www.msx.org you will also find 2 links to other sites with Tilburg 2002 pictures. If you put pictures of the fair online, please submit the link to me and I will add it to the list at the resource center. Enjoy! Greetings, Sander http://www.msx.org http://www.benjaminb.nl -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg info
> From: N=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e9stor_Soriano_?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Help! (Tilburg info) > > Hey obsoletes! I need information and photos about the Tilburg fair for > SD MESXES#16 which is about to be released... I should have it today, or > tomorrow at the most late. Someone can help me? > > Thankxs!! You can find my pictures at http://www.worldcity.nl/~andete/MSX/tilburg/ Feel free to use them. They're mainly focussed on openMSX :) Joost -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg info
Well, I will try to post a text-review on www.msx.org this evening, but since I am very tired, the sun is shining and I'm waiting for pictures taken by Remco van Nunen it might take a little longer than expected. On the Resource Center there are already announcements of Tilburg, and links to sites with pictures. Maybe they could be of use. Greetings, Sander http://www.msx.org http://www.benjaminb.nl - Original Message - From: "Maarten ter Huurne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 13:33 Subject: Tilburg info > (mailinglist filters are too strict, so I manually repost this one) > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > From: N=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e9stor_Soriano_?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Help! (Tilburg info) > > Hey obsoletes! I need information and photos about the Tilburg fair for > SD MESXES#16 which is about to be released... I should have it today, or > tomorrow at the most late. Someone can help me? > > Thankxs!! > > > *** XXI MSX USERS MEETING IN BARCELONA: MAY 5th 2002 *** > -- --- > Konami Man - AKA Nestor Soriano (^^)v > http://www.konamiman.com- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ#: 18281450 > > Happa ichi mai areba ii. Ikite iru kara lucky da! > -- --- > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tilburg info
(mailinglist filters are too strict, so I manually repost this one) -- Forwarded Message -- From: N=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e9stor_Soriano_?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Help! (Tilburg info) Hey obsoletes! I need information and photos about the Tilburg fair for SD MESXES#16 which is about to be released... I should have it today, or tomorrow at the most late. Someone can help me? Thankxs!! *** XXI MSX USERS MEETING IN BARCELONA: MAY 5th 2002 *** - Konami Man - AKA Nestor Soriano (^^)v http://www.konamiman.com- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 18281450 Happa ichi mai areba ii. Ikite iru kara lucky da! - -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tilburg public transport info
Hi,
If you're coming to Tilburg by public transport, this might be interesting
for you.
Tomorrow there are no trains between Eindhoven and Tilburg. Instead, there
are NS buses, so prepare for a slightly longer trip.
From Tilburg station to the fair site, you can use the city buses, line 44
or 45 direction north ("noord"). It takes a bit over 20 minutes. Get off at
the Beethovenlaan/Schubertstraat stop. The fair address is De Schans 123. I
think there is a small map at the bus stop ("bushokje"), but if you want to
be sure use http://kaart.ilse.nl/ or something similar.
(I'm not responsible for errors in this description. I'm using both my
memory and http://www.ovr.nl/.)
An alternative is the train taxi, which is more expensive than the bus but
less expensive than a real taxi.
Fair is from 10:00 to 16:00. Poster is at
http://www.cgv.myweb.nl/fr_posterY2.htm.
I hope to see many of you tomorrow. And I should be getting some sleep now. :)
Bye,
Maarten
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See you in Tilburg
Hi friends, I am going to Tilburg, I think there won´t be another spanish users :( I hope to see you there... Bye, PD. Manuel, your 10.000 visitor CD is ready :-) MSX Power Replay [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://madrisx.cjb.net ICQ: 34051098 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Important news (especially for Tilburg visitors :-)
Hi, Whoops... Haven't been an active user for much too long right now (which is about to change :)).. Mistook Moonblaster for Moonsound.. Unforgiveable ofcourse.. > Where did you read Moonsound ?? I only saw Moonblaster Stereo (MSX Music on > the right speaker, and MSX Audio on the left speaker). -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Important news (especially for Tilburg visitors :-)
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 17:26, Roel de Wit wrote: > Hi, > > Cool ! :) Not because it's another MSX emulator because it can emulate > hardware we (or I) don't have (moonsound, multiple SCCs etc :).. Especially Where did you read Moonsound ?? I only saw Moonblaster Stereo (MSX Music on the right speaker, and MSX Audio on the left speaker). Sandy -- Generation MSX http://www.generation-msx.nl -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Important news (especially for Tilburg visitors :-)
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE There is a new MSX emulator in town! Last couple of months, several people have been working on a brand new MSX emulator, called openMSX. It has been build from scratch, based on some new concepts regarding communication and synchronisation between the various processors in the MSX. The new approach towards the internals of a real MSX has resulted in an architecture that allows high accuracy, and has a modular and object oriented design. Due to modularity and the open source filosophy it is much opener to new developers and contributors then the other emulators. It's first public showing will be at Tilburg 2002, this Saturday 20th of April. This project is probably the first jointly developed MSX emulator and this approach has already paid of. In less then the year that the project has been launched we have already a lot of hardware emulated; Z80, MSX2 vdp, PSG, SCC, MSX Music, MSX Audio, ... Although the current emulator isn't perfect, it is has the potential to become so. The internal structure with its connector/plug-in structure allows for independent development of new features and easy run-time switching of joysticks/mouses/printers/disks/roms/vdp-renderer etc. There are still glitches in openMSX and the rewrite towards pixel perfect is still going on, just as the DAC sound isn't completely perfect but we are getting there. A lot of stuff can be emulated already that has never been emulated before: * Moonblaster stereo * multiple SCC's (up to eight is no problem) * the scope part of Unknown Reality works (Although there are glitches) * interlace as in a normal or 100Hz-TV mode * full-screen support / openGL support / ASCII art output * correct sound pitch even if the emulation is to slow You'll definitely hear more about this project in the near future. David Heremans PS: If you find a stand at the Tilburg fair with people only running old MSX software, that could be us ;-) -- "Never assume malice when results can be explained through incompetence"? -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- In the case of M$, the distinction can be a difficult one to make -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
2 auctions at Tilburg!
Yep, that's right.. there will be 2 very interesting auctions at the www.msx.org booth in Tilburg. Be there this saturday! Greetings, Sander http://www.msx.org http://www.benjaminb.nl -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Fair in Tilburg
>>-Hervé >>proud owner of a NMS8050 > >Right... 8250, I guess? ;-) > >-- >Grtjs, Manuel You're right. I discovered my mistake just after I posted my message and was hoping nobody would find out about it ;-) Anyway, I got a answer to my question. Thanks everyone. -Hervé proud owner of a NMS8250 _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Fair in Tilburg
> -Hervé > proud owner of a NMS8050 Right... 8250, I guess? ;-) -- Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4EVER! (Questions? See http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my homepage: http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Fair in Tilburg
Hello, > Do you think I would I be able to get a cardridge (empty) for a (to be > built) memory mapper. Which stand would be the one to bother about this? > Sunrise? Sure it must be possible to get an empty cartridge... You could send an e-mail to Sunrise to check if they are willing to sell empty cartridge! You can mail to either: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] --[ MARI ]-- > > thanks for your help! > > -Hervé > proud owner of a NMS8050 > > _ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > > -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Fair in Tilburg
#lurkmode off Do you think I would I be able to get a cardridge (empty) for a (to be built) memory mapper. Which stand would be the one to bother about this? Sunrise? thanks for your help! -Hervé proud owner of a NMS8050 _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg
Why is there a poster of the fair of 2000 / 2001 ?? A little update wouldn't hurt here. The meeting will be held 20 april 2002 I presume ? - Original Message - From: "Ad Mutsaers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Tilburg > contact us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > home-page: http://www.cgv.myweb.nl > Phone: 013-4560668 ( International: 31134560668 ) > > - Oorspronkelijk bericht - > Van: "Stephan Szarafinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Aan: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Verzonden: dinsdag 2 april 2002 23:33 > Onderwerp: Tilburg > > > > Does anyone know who I should contact about getting a booth at Tilburg? > > I planned to held a Konami auction http://konami.szarafinski.net > > but I must have some space to do that :) > > > > Stephan > > > > > > -- > > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg
contact us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home-page: http://www.cgv.myweb.nl Phone: 013-4560668 ( International: 31134560668 ) - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: "Stephan Szarafinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Verzonden: dinsdag 2 april 2002 23:33 Onderwerp: Tilburg > Does anyone know who I should contact about getting a booth at Tilburg? > I planned to held a Konami auction http://konami.szarafinski.net > but I must have some space to do that :) > > Stephan > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg
>Does anyone know who I should contact about getting a booth at Tilburg? >I planned to held a Konami auction http://konami.szarafinski.net >but I must have some space to do that :) > >Stephan Organisatie Computer Meeting 2002 Bartokstraat 196 5011 JD Tilburg tel: 013-4560668 / 013-4681421 (from 19.00h) fax: 013-4560668 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tilburg
Does anyone know who I should contact about getting a booth at Tilburg? I planned to held a Konami auction http://konami.szarafinski.net but I must have some space to do that :) Stephan -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
A1-Spirit + steering wheel at auction in Tilburg
Thanks to Saku Taipale the legendary A1 Spirit with steering wheel is for sale at the auction in Tilburg! This is a must have for all Konami collectors!!! Check http://konami.szarafinski.net/ for more info. Greets, Stephan Szarafinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Konami games auction at Tilburg 2002
Lot's of games for sale! Please have a look at http://konami.szarafinski.net for more info about the auction. Stephan Szarafinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
At 03:44 30-4-01 +, you wrote: >>That much? NS really sucks nowadays, charging too much for too little >>service with al those strikes... :( > >They should go to Japan for some study. The Japanese railway companies >aren't that expensive and their service is just great! Even if a train >stops for some seconds during a ride, there will be an announcement to >explain WHY the train stopped, including several apologies. What's more, a >Japanese train is practically NEVER late. And if it should be, you can be >sure of having (at least some of) your money returned. They should, but as you are still 'kinda' Dutch, you might be able to predict what will happen: They'd raise the prices again just to cover for expenses they have in Japan. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
>That much? NS really sucks nowadays, charging too much for too little >service with al those strikes... :( They should go to Japan for some study. The Japanese railway companies aren't that expensive and their service is just great! Even if a train stops for some seconds during a ride, there will be an announcement to explain WHY the train stopped, including several apologies. What's more, a Japanese train is practically NEVER late. And if it should be, you can be sure of having (at least some of) your money returned. There's still a lot to learn for the NS... Rieks. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 online
> I have put my pictures Pictures of Tilburg 2001 online > http://www.geocities.com/pedro1234_1999/ > The also come on funet The are on funet now ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msx/photos/tilburg_2001/ > > have fun whit it (-; gun ;-) -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: one-chip MSX (was Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site)
] Nasu (Yokoi) told about Sharp and their Zaurus PDA. They developed 2 games ] for it, 1st was Space Invaders and 2nd Pacman. The games sold for $20 and ] they were sold out within 3 days (do I remember this correctly, please ] someone who was present Sunday correct me on this). They had recuperated the development costs after three days. But they did not mention how many games where sold in total. Nor the development costs necesary to port these two games to the PDA. But indeed, there is certainly a market for small games. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, the MSX Hardware list, XSA Disk images, documentation, Japanese MSX news from Ikeda and lots more. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Maarten ter Huurne wrote: > I had that feeling too; the connection between MPEG and MSX is still unclear > to me... They're not directly related as Mr. Nishi himselft admitted, but there's a small connection. I can't tell the truth about MPEG, Nishi, ASCII and such, but I can tell a short story about MSX in Brazil. In the early nineties, I couldn't believe it was possible to have one minute of music stored in just a few hundred kilobytes. It sounded completely outlandish to me. However, an acquaintance of me and some friends in Brazil did achieve that with MSX. I was very skeptical and had no idea of how he did it, but later on I started to understand. What could be the underlying ideas? It was as follows: 1) MSX doesn't have much memory. Therefore, we must use some kind of compression; 2) MSX doesn't have much clock power. Therefore, we must use some fair decompression scheme and optimize it for current MSX hardware speed. Obviously, those two ideas have something to do with MPEG audio. For example, with MPEG Layer-3 you can have 4 minutes per megabyte of 11KHz audio. One minute of sound fits easily in 256KBytes -- not too unusual in the MSX world. MPEG Layer-3 in that bitrate can be uncompressed in real time in a machine with a generic x86 processor with only 25MHz (or less), and Layer-2 and Layer-1 were much lighter. Of course, this acquaintace of ours didn't use MPEG, but some concepts were similar. Today, we have MUST and VIP by Ricardo Bittencourt and everyone with an MSX can see this could be done. Perhaps Nishi meant that he had some idea like this (not completely original, because there were already some people studying these issues back then) and tried to implement it broadly in some way, and later saw some similarities with this and MPEG... But of course I wouldn't put my hand on fire for this. =) []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.overclocked.org/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
one-chip-MSX part 2 (was Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site)
Maarten ter Huurne wrote: >Nishi stated that they didn't have to program MSX, they could choose >freely. In practice, this means most developers will choose Intend, >because it's easy (compared to plain Linux) and powerful (compared to MSX). And ofcourse you don't have to program Intent either, you can program Linux, or you can choose to go around every OS and write to the hardware directly! It's just like the current MSX where you disable the BIOS, or write your own interrupt handlers. >As I understood it, the FPGA only handles the performance sensitive parts >of MSX emulation, like the VDP and the sound chips. Things like memory, >I/O to peripherals, disk emulation etc could be done by the ARM core. I saw a Z80 used as I/O processor on Nishi's design. > > > Respects go to Nishi though... even > > > though he seems to claim that he invented the wheel from time to time. > >I had that feeling too; the connection between MPEG and MSX is still >unclear to me... It's simple. ASCII/Nishi was involved in streaming video, to be run from normal single speed CD-ROM's (150kB/s). At the time JPEG was working on Motion-JPEG, but Nishi said it was bad and they needed a very low bandwidth solution. It's partly because of Nishi's pressure that work on MPEG and MPEG Audio started. That's the connection with MSX. It's a fact the CD-ROM was originally developed for MSX and that the PC-versions were created later! Philips didn't name their MSX2 computers 'New Media System' for nothing! Philips' vision was always to create a multimedia CD-ROM based computer like their CD-i (which flopped). >Nishi said that it is possible to create an MSX cartridge adaptor using >the USB 2.0 connection, but he clearly did not make a commitment that >ASCII would produce such an adaptor. I think he said it was probable some company would produce something like that. Anyway, who needs diskdrives when we have the memory cards and internet! Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
one-chip MSX (was Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site)
Sean Young wrote: >On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 11:55:03PM +0200, Patriek Lesparre wrote: > > MSX is more than the MSX hardware. MSX is more than the MSX software. MSX > > is also a philosophy. > >What do you mean exactly? In the meeting on Sunday 22nd the 'MSX philosophy' was mentioned quite a few times. It's about education, ease of use, flexibility etc. There are problems though, because what Nishi told us about the FPGA/PLD design that would cost 10$-20$ was not quite accurate. With CURRENT technology such a design would cost about $200 per chip, while an ASIC design costs 10$ but has to be manufactured at least 10 million times. Who knows what the technology will be like in 2 years. PLD technology has improved fenominally (both in capabilities and price) in the last 2 years so if the trend continues, Nishi's words may be right. Also, Nishi is a Professor at MIT University where he will work on a project that should make PLD chips far more cheaper than today. He really has everything planned out, and the timing seems perfect. Ofcourse people today are laughing at Nishi. But history proves everytime people laugh at Nishi for a crazy idea, he eventually succeeds! Because the one-chip MSX will be used in 3rd world countries and such, it will have to be very cheap, because the governments must buy it. Normal people in those countries are too poor. So it's possible 2 versions will be made. One cheap ASIC design and one more expensive PLD design. Software from the ASIC design can run on the PLD, but if you create software that reprograms the PLD it ofcourse can't run on the ASIC. Basically, because the an ASIC is fixed, the ASIC one-chip-MSX is actually nothing more than a very cheap one-chip-PC with hardware MSX emulation. But the PLD version is far closer to the MSX philosophy, and in my opinion worthy to carry the name 'MSX'. The Japanese feel the same way. The PLD design allows one to program their OWN HARDWARE! Ofcourse not everybody has to be able to do that. For instance, if one person writes a MoonSound hardware, you can download it from the MSX Server (for a certain amount of money) and *BAM* you have a MoonSound in your one-chip-MSX. It's also really good for emulation, for instance you can create the Gameboy Advance (soon to be released in Europe/USA) VDP and Sound hardware in PLD and use the ARM9 core to emulate the GBA CPU (which is a ARM7 by the way ^_^). Really the possibilities are infinite. Because of this, the PLD design can last much longer than an ASIC version. An ASIC version would be obsolete sooner because it's totally fixed. If you want new hardware functions (maybe a 3D engine) you have to create it in software, using CPU power. But with the PLD design you can program the 3D engine in hardware so the CPU can make full use of its power for other purposes. Now, most people want a new PC every 3 years. With an ASIC one-chip-MSX that may also be the case, but a PLD version last longer because of its flexibility. > > I'm really convinced this one-chip MSX using an ARM9 core is the best > thing ever. It's truly limitless in possibilities! > >Yes, but since you got an ARM9 and FPGA -- why write software for the >"old" system? It would be a waste of cycles to begin with. The >possibilities are endless with a fast CPU and FPGA, so you'll write stuff >for that. First of all, don't forger the MSX Player (the ASCII emulator). If a succes, it will run on millions of cellphones/PDA's/laptops/desktops/etc. so if you create software for the old architecture you have an instant market of millions. While if you program the one-chip-MSX only those with a one-chip-MSX will be able to buy your software. The MSX Player improves transition between old and new architecture in the way I described above and also people will start to remember MSX again and will be more likely to buy a one-chip-MSX when it's out. Nasu (Yokoi) told about Sharp and their Zaurus PDA. They developed 2 games for it, 1st was Space Invaders and 2nd Pacman. The games sold for $20 and they were sold out within 3 days (do I remember this correctly, please someone who was present Sunday correct me on this). So the market for these games is huge, even though you can download such games on the internet for free. When Nasu told Sharp about the MSX software library, which is between 4000-7000 they totally flipped out! ^_^ Also MSX games are very small. You can send an MSX game in notime at 9600bps which is the current cellphone standard. Also on the new MSX design was a SD-card slot. It's a very small memory card by Panasonic ranging from 16MB to 1GB. Nasu met with Panasonic people, and when he told them how much MSX games could fit on the smallest SD card (16MBytes) the Panasonic person went on his knees and said "HELP ME!" ^_^ There seems to be very good support by the big companies. Sharp will be happy because they'll have lots of games for their PDA's. So the PDA will sell mo
Tilburg 2001 great success, lecture by Kazuhiko Nishi, ASCII Corporation
Hi, Just returned from a very interesting visit to the Tilburg 2001 meeting. Lots of people, lots of interesting to pick up for my MSX collection, lots of fun. The lecture by Kazuhiko Nishi, ASCII Corporation at the Tilburg fair was very interesting. Entertaining, lots of background information on how MSX was conceived (MSX means Machines (hardware) with Software eXchangeability). Also news about the upcoming MSX activities by ASCII. such as MSX Player, the emulator and MSX-on-a-single-chip. It will not be the MSX as we know it! Others will undoubtly report more and better on what else Mr Nishi said, I just have scanned and put the lecture notes as handed out online. www.geocities.com/msxhans Have fun, Hans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
FW: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Looks like my mail form yesterday did not reach the list. Here it is again, Hi, Just returned from a very interesting visit to the Tilburg 2001 meeting. Lots of people, lots of interesting to pick up for my MSX collection, lots of fun. The lecture by Kazuhiko Nishi, ASCII Corporation at the Tilburg fair was very interesting. Entertaining, lots of background information on how MSX was conceived (MSX means Machines (hardware) with Software eXchangeability). Also news about the upcoming MSX activities by ASCII. such as MSX Player, the emulator and MSX-on-a-single-chip. It will not be the MSX as we know it! Others will undoubtly report more and better on what else Mr Nishi said, I just have scanned and put the lecture notes as handed out online. www.geocities.com/msxhans Have fun, Hans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Looks like my mail form yesterday did not reach the list. Here it is again, Hi, Just returned from a very interesting visit to the Tilburg 2001 meeting. Lots of people, lots of interesting to pick up for my MSX collection, lots of fun. The lecture by Kazuhiko Nishi, ASCII Corporation at the Tilburg fair was very interesting. Entertaining, lots of background information on how MSX was conceived (MSX means Machines (hardware) with Software eXchangeability). Also news about the upcoming MSX activities by ASCII. such as MSX Player, the emulator and MSX-on-a-single-chip. It will not be the MSX as we know it! Others will undoubtly report more and better on what else Mr Nishi said, I just have scanned and put the lecture notes as handed out online. www.geocities.com/msxhans Have fun, Hans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
On Saturday 21 April 2001 23:51, you wrote: > Basically I think that making it 'MSX compatible' is a way to reach the by > then older group (still large) of 'ex-MSX' users who would get MSX games to > play on their new Palmtop for free with the actual computer.. I doubt "for free" will be true. ASCII will want to make some money using the MSX Server and the company who made the game will probably not license it for free either. It's not sure the MSX Player will accept ROM and DSK images from arbitrary sources. Or if for example the games section on funet won't be closed down after pressure from ASCII. > As Nischi said he wants to have chips in his shoe.. Many laught but I found > this a serious remark. It's certainly possible to put chips there. Maybe even powered by energy from the walking movement. But what useful function can it perform? I have no interest to know how many steps I walked in a day. Maybe runners like to know, but for the average person this is nothing more than a gimmick and the chip will soon suffer from boredom when the user no longer cares about the information it provides. Red Dwarf fans will know the AI Toaster, which is an excellent example of useless embedded technology. A small quote: The toaster is persistent, is apt to remind crewmembers of the last time they had toast, and when you objected (and you surely would), it would become defensive and say, "What's the point of buying a toaster with artificial intelligence if you never want any toast?! I toast therefore I am." (from http://www.sadgeezer.com/RedDwarf/toaster.htm) Sure it will be possible to build a toaster with AI some time in the future. But the whole point is that the AI functionality doesn't make it a better toaster, in fact it makes it quite annoying. In the anecdote about his grandmother using ballpen, calculator, tv and phone instead of a computer, Nishi wondered how he could get her to use a computer. That's a very technologically driven approach: I can create this wonderful device, now how can I get people to use it? One might get better results by doing to opposite: I have this situation, how can I improve it? For example, the TiVo and similar harddisk video recorders solve problems like "I am too lazy to program my VCR" and "I want to see this movie without commercials". > What would be better then giving > much of these devices a display with interface with basic capabillities all > offered by a (in say 2008) a simple but standardized and cheap massproduced > chip ? Exactly. eZ80 or similar chips suffice for most IP enables devices. The one-chip "MSX" is unique because of it's FPGA, but that also makes it more expensive and programming the FPGA is more difficult than programming an ordinary processor. So manufacturers will only use it if they can actually do something useful with the FPGA, like signal processing or emulation or anything else that performs poor on CPUs. > The idea of reconfiguring a chip to act as another chip is great though. The Atari Jaguar was highly programmable, I think it included a user programmable DSP. Although powerful, it was also more complex than the other systems around and therefore wasn't popular among programmers. (I read this in a FAQ.) The PlayStation 2 is also highly programmable (vector units and the general architecture), but programmers are complaining. So I think a few competent programmers (like Tsujikawa) will create FPGA programs, for MSX emulation, for MP3 decoding etc and most applications will use those through a kind of library. I don't expect an average application to reprogram the FPGA. Bye, Maarten -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
On Saturday 21 April 2001 22:07, you wrote: > I'd agree that's not more than actually marketing his new idea -- which is > a nice idea indeed. Assuming this is true, why did he come to Tilburg see > 50-odd people to tell us about his new "MSX"? To Spread The Word (word of > mouth is very powerful marketing tool of course). Another reason is to tell MSX developers that they can publish their software through ASCII once the MSX Server is up. > > He claims they want to keep the clockrate of the CPU > > down to spare battery power, but also want people to program for the > > thingy in MSX code instead of native 'intend?' code... Seeying that a CPU > > needs to be between 10-30 times as fast as the original emulated CPU this > > seems an illogical remark.. I asked Nishi the question "If there is also Linux and Intend on the same machine, why would developers choose to program MSX?". Nishi stated that they didn't have to program MSX, they could choose freely. In practice, this means most developers will choose Intend, because it's easy (compared to plain Linux) and powerful (compared to MSX). MSX emulation is there to allow old games to run and maybe a handful of new MSX productions, but certainly not the majority of software written for this new device. Also, filling the FPGA with MSX related programming is just one of the options. It could also be GameBoy emulation, or video (de)compression or whatever needs relatively simple tasks done at a very high speed. The name "new MSX" is a bit misleading, it's actually a flexible machine that is very suitable for MSX emulation, but is not inherently MSX compatible. > It's NOT emulated. The one-chip-solution is on FPGA, which can be > loaded with an MSX. So it is NOT emulated; the FPGA can easily handle MSX > speeds. As I understood it, the FPGA only handles the performance sensitive parts of MSX emulation, like the VDP and the sound chips. Things like memory, I/O to peripherals, disk emulation etc could be done by the ARM core. > > Respects go to Nishi though... even > > though he seems to claim that he invented the wheel from time to time. I had that feeling too; the connection between MPEG and MSX is still unclear to me... > Also this one-chip idea -- which is FPGA of course -- is meant to be 100% > like the MSX computers we're using now. It will definately be different, for example in the sense that there is no disk drive and no cartridge port. Nishi said that it is possible to create an MSX cartridge adaptor using the USB 2.0 connection, but he clearly did not make a commitment that ASCII would produce such an adaptor. Bye, Maarten -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Hi, ... > > be between 10-30 times as fast as the original emulated CPU this seems an > > illogical remark.. > It's NOT emulated. The one-chip-solution is on FPGA, which can be > loaded with an MSX. So it is NOT emulated; the FPGA can easily handle MSX > speeds. As far as I understood the FPGA was used to 'emulate' (by programming it) the IO controlling stuff on the MSX and that teh ARM processor would logically do Z80 emulation... But then again how could I fully understand :) > FPGA = Field Programmable Gate Array, which is essentially a programmable > chip, see: http://www.fpga.org/ > An MSX is only one possible implementation of FPGA. It could be anything, I know too less about these type of processors to comment on this and don't make errors in my assumptions -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Pictures of Tilburg 2001 online
I have put my pictures Pictures of Tilburg 2001 online http://www.geocities.com/pedro1234_1999/ The also come on funet have fun whit it (-; gun ;-) -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Hi, > > I'd agree that's not more than actually marketing his new idea -- which is > > a nice idea indeed. Assuming this is true, why did he come to Tilburg see > > 50-odd people to tell us about his new "MSX"? To Spread The Word (word of > > mouth is very powerful marketing tool of course). > Another reason is to tell MSX developers that they can publish their software > through ASCII once the MSX Server is up. Why tell now ? MSX-Player is GREAT and might make this sales idea possible... This is what I really respect Nishi for.. Linking MSX to the all-on-one-chip thingy is pure marketing... What the 'h*ll' does an MSX need 16 MB RAM for (unless that means 2 megabytes then it's very well thinkable).. He plans to use MSX-Player for publicity and focus people on his noble work and will also adres the one-chip-solution which will get interrest from the public.. Making this emulator (MSX-Player) is much cheaper than buying publicity when you need it for that one-chip-solution.. Basically I think that making it 'MSX compatible' is a way to reach the by then older group (still large) of 'ex-MSX' users who would get MSX games to play on their new Palmtop for free with the actual computer.. It'll raise questions etc... in other words publicity.. As Nischi said he wants to have chips in his shoe.. Many laught but I found this a serious remark. With the coming of IPV6 every cm2 on this planet (or even more) can have it's own IP adres... That means the refrigerator can talk to your thermometer etc... This is basically only a few years away.. What would be better then giving much of these devices a display with interface with basic capabillities all offered by a (in say 2008) a simple but standardized and cheap massproduced chip ? Exactly. > > > He claims they want to keep the clockrate of the CPU > > > down to spare battery power, but also want people to program for the > > > thingy in MSX code instead of native 'intend?' code... Seeying that a CPU > > > needs to be between 10-30 times as fast as the original emulated CPU this > > > seems an illogical remark.. > I asked Nishi the question "If there is also Linux and Intend on the same > machine, why would developers choose to program MSX?". Nishi stated that they > didn't have to program MSX, they could choose freely. In practice, this means > most developers will choose Intend, because it's easy (compared to plain > Linux) and powerful (compared to MSX). MSX emulation is there to allow old > games to run and maybe a handful of new MSX productions, but certainly not > the majority of software written for this new device. Exactly what I thought... I must have miss-understood him on that issue... > Also, filling the FPGA with MSX related programming is just one of the > options. It could also be GameBoy emulation, or video (de)compression or > whatever needs relatively simple tasks done at a very high speed. The name > "new MSX" is a bit misleading, it's actually a flexible machine that is very > suitable for MSX emulation, but is not inherently MSX compatible. As I said I'm excited about the product... Just not about the MSX part of it because I don't believe it.. Call me a sceptic, call me a realist, call me whatever you want :) The idea of reconfiguring a chip to act as another chip is great though. > > It's NOT emulated. The one-chip-solution is on FPGA, which can be > > loaded with an MSX. So it is NOT emulated; the FPGA can easily handle MSX > > speeds. > > > though he seems to claim that he invented the wheel from time to time. > I had that feeling too; the connection between MPEG and MSX is still unclear > to me... There is no connection. Exactly.. The only thing that combine the two is that both are internationally set standards which can be done in many forms as long as the base exists and sticks to the rules. > > Also this one-chip idea -- which is FPGA of course -- is meant to be 100% > > like the MSX computers we're using now. > It will definately be different, for example in the sense that there is no > disk drive and no cartridge port. Nishi said that it is possible to create an > MSX cartridge adaptor using the USB 2.0 connection, but he clearly did not > make a commitment that ASCII would produce such an adaptor. It's not sure it'll support USB2.0 though it is likely in 3-4 years.. Remember, Nishi is mainly a 'marketing/sales' person for people outside his company. When you ask him 'which version', he says 'the latest', when you ask 'how fast' he'll say . etc.. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 11:55:03PM +0200, Patriek Lesparre wrote: > MSX is more than the MSX hardware. MSX is more than the MSX software. MSX > is also a philosophy. What do you mean exactly? > The one-chip MSX is like 100% MSX in philosophy, 75% MSX in software and > 50% MSX in hardware. Important thing is, it will be compatible. > > I had long discussions with Laurens and Tsujikawa during diner tonight and > I'm really convinced this one-chip MSX using an ARM9 core is the best thing > ever. It's truly limitless in possibilities! Yes, but since you got an ARM9 and FPGA -- why write software for the "old" system? It would be a waste of cycles to begin with. The possibilities are endless with a fast CPU and FPGA, so you'll write stuff for that. And then you end up doing something which is completely incompatible with the original MSX. It just have well been an Amiga -- it's stuffed with custom chips. The point is, it's not MSX anymore. It's a completely new system with the name MSX. > >any attempt to survive (keep nearly alive) MSX could be a noble one but in > >2004 it'll be nothing more than a marketing stunt.. > > MSX as we know it now will remain to be alive as long as people create > software for it. Even when the one-chip MSX is released people will still > use and program the 'old architecture'. There isn't much market for the "old architecture" -- before anyone starts a not-so-well-thought-through flame war, let me say that _if_ the "new architecture" is available, you'll use that. The number of active users of MSX is going down. Tilburg wasn't nearly what it used to be, let's be honest. So if the new MSX kicks off, it'll quickly surpass the market for the original MSX. Maybe not our "scene", but if I'm informed correctly, when Commodore released the Amiga, they included an C64 emulator which worked quite well. However, soon enough noone wrote software for the C64, since the Amiga was so much cooler. No I'm not an Amiga user at all -- never have been. Sean -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:26:20PM +0200, Roel de Wit wrote: -snip- > I had some doubts about Nishi's presentation though... I have the feeling > that he wants to 'market' his one-chip-solution by using the MSX 'brand' as > marketing point (especially in Japan).. It's great so see efforts to improve > FMSX though and any attempt to survive (keep nearly alive) MSX could be a > noble one but in 2004 it'll be nothing more than a marketing stunt.. Some > things about this... I'd agree that's not more than actually marketing his new idea -- which is a nice idea indeed. Assuming this is true, why did he come to Tilburg see 50-odd people to tell us about his new "MSX"? To Spread The Word (word of mouth is very powerful marketing tool of course). OOTH, I would hope this is not true. I think Nishi is a very intelligent and also very witty man. I did not speak to him personally, but that was the impression he made with his presentation. He stressed that none of the MSX-DOS stuff would be improved, and since the host hardware is ARM based, it's completely MSX-incompatible. > He claims they want to keep the clockrate of the CPU > down to spare battery power, but also want people to program for the thingy > in MSX code instead of native 'intend?' code... Seeying that a CPU needs to > be between 10-30 times as fast as the original emulated CPU this seems an > illogical remark.. It's NOT emulated. The one-chip-solution is on FPGA, which can be loaded with an MSX. So it is NOT emulated; the FPGA can easily handle MSX speeds. FPGA = Field Programmable Gate Array, which is essentially a programmable chip, see: http://www.fpga.org/ An MSX is only one possible implementation of FPGA. It could be anything, > Actually I'm more exited about that one-chip idea that the idea that it has > something to do with MSX... Respects go to Nishi though... even though he > seems to claim that he invented the wheel from time to time. Also this one-chip idea -- which is FPGA of course -- is meant to be 100% like the MSX computers we're using now. Would someone care to scan the sheets and put them online for everyone who wasn't there? I don't have access to a scanner here. Sean -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Roel de Wit wrote: >It's been 7 years since I last was in Tilburg >and I just went with some old 'MSX-friends' to see how things were these >days.. I was impressed The fair itself wasn't really impressive this year. Ofcourse the main attraction, Nishi's visit was :) >I had some doubts about Nishi's presentation though... I have the feeling >that he wants to 'market' his one-chip-solution by using the MSX 'brand' >as marketing point (especially in Japan).. and >Actually I'm more exited about that one-chip idea that the idea that it >has something to do with MSX... MSX is more than the MSX hardware. MSX is more than the MSX software. MSX is also a philosophy. The one-chip MSX is like 100% MSX in philosophy, 75% MSX in software and 50% MSX in hardware. Important thing is, it will be compatible. I had long discussions with Laurens and Tsujikawa during diner tonight and I'm really convinced this one-chip MSX using an ARM9 core is the best thing ever. It's truly limitless in possibilities! >any attempt to survive (keep nearly alive) MSX could be a noble one but in >2004 it'll be nothing more than a marketing stunt.. MSX as we know it now will remain to be alive as long as people create software for it. Even when the one-chip MSX is released people will still use and program the 'old architecture'. >Some things about this... He claims they want to keep the clockrate of the >CPU down to spare battery power, but also want people to program for the >thingy in MSX code instead of native 'intend?' code... Seeying that a CPU >needs to be between 10-30 times as fast as the original emulated CPU this >seems an illogical remark.. Nishi was talking about CPU speeds of 200-600 MHz. Ofcourse the CPU speed varies per MSX application... The MSX in your shoe or tie, doesn't have to be as powerful as the MSX in your desktop computer. The point is, they will both be compatible and able to communicate. His vision is really cool.. In stead of the old 'homebus' idea's were a central computer controls the entire house, the one-chip MSX enables every object in the house to control itself and communicate with eachother. Distributed computing :) I think I can talk for hours about this! ^_^ Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Hi, Anyway.. I was the person who asked you if you were going to place the pictures on the internet in the room of the super old spectravideo with docking station... Anyway that's not important.. What's important is that we got those pictures.. Thanks.. It's been 7 years since I last was in Tilburg and I just went with some old 'MSX-friends' to see how things were these days.. I was impressed I had some doubts about Nishi's presentation though... I have the feeling that he wants to 'market' his one-chip-solution by using the MSX 'brand' as marketing point (especially in Japan).. It's great so see efforts to improve FMSX though and any attempt to survive (keep nearly alive) MSX could be a noble one but in 2004 it'll be nothing more than a marketing stunt.. Some things about this... He claims they want to keep the clockrate of the CPU down to spare battery power, but also want people to program for the thingy in MSX code instead of native 'intend?' code... Seeying that a CPU needs to be between 10-30 times as fast as the original emulated CPU this seems an illogical remark.. Actually I'm more exited about that one-chip idea that the idea that it has something to do with MSX... Respects go to Nishi though... even though he seems to claim that he invented the wheel from time to time. - Original Message - From: "Stephan Szarafinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: RE: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site > No :) > Maybe on someone elses pictures? > > Stephan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roel de > Wit > Sent: zaterdag 21 april 2001 20:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site > > > Hi, > > Would you have been visible on picture 40 ??.. I remember the person who > made a picture on where I was on :) > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephan Szarafinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:05 PM > Subject: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site > > > > Hi all! > > > > Take a look at the pictures I made today at > > http://www.fony.msxnet.org/pictures > > Click on Tilburg 2001. > > It is not all there was to see, but you can get an impression of how it > was. > > > > Greets, > > > > Stephan Szarafinski > > > > > > > > -- > > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
No :) Maybe on someone elses pictures? Stephan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roel de Wit Sent: zaterdag 21 april 2001 20:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site Hi, Would you have been visible on picture 40 ??.. I remember the person who made a picture on where I was on :) - Original Message - From: "Stephan Szarafinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site > Hi all! > > Take a look at the pictures I made today at > http://www.fony.msxnet.org/pictures > Click on Tilburg 2001. > It is not all there was to see, but you can get an impression of how it was. > > Greets, > > Stephan Szarafinski > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Hi, Would you have been visible on picture 40 ??.. I remember the person who made a picture on where I was on :) - Original Message - From: "Stephan Szarafinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site > Hi all! > > Take a look at the pictures I made today at > http://www.fony.msxnet.org/pictures > Click on Tilburg 2001. > It is not all there was to see, but you can get an impression of how it was. > > Greets, > > Stephan Szarafinski > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Hi all! Take a look at the pictures I made today at http://www.fony.msxnet.org/pictures Click on Tilburg 2001. It is not all there was to see, but you can get an impression of how it was. Greets, Stephan Szarafinski -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Pictures from the MSX Fair Tilburg 2001 / Foto's van de Beurs in Tilburg 2001
ENGLISCH Hello everybody. I just came home from the MSX Fair of Tilburg. Because I want to start MSXWorld.nl in june, I'm looking for pictures from the fair, made by people what were there. Could you please contact me about this? Please send a reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Jeroen Küppers - DUTCH = Hallo iedereen. Ik kom net thuis van de MSX beurs van Tilburg. Omdat ik in juni van plan ben om MSXWorld.nl te gaan starten, ben ik op zoek naar foto's van de beurs, gemaakt door mensen die er zelf bijwaren. Kan eenieder die foto's heeft, aub contact met mij opnemen? Stuur aub een antwoord naar: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groeten, Jeroen Küppers. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tijdstip lezing Nishi op Tilburg Meeting 2001
> Stop sending this kind of messages to the mailinglist... If you want to > reply on a message send to the mailinglist that doesn't have any relevant > information for other readers... > > SEND IT TO THE PERSON DIRECTLY... > > An e-mail adress can be found at the properties of a message! > > --[ MARI ]-- Hi. Thanks for the info Cu l8ter -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tijdstip lezing Nishi op Tilburg Meeting 2001
Hello, >bedankt! >THANX > >hoe kom je aan die informatie? of ben jij van de CGV? >HOW DIT YOU GET THIS INFORMATION? OR ARE YOU A CGV MEMBER? Stop sending this kind of messages to the mailinglist... If you want to reply on a message send to the mailinglist that doesn't have any relevant information for other readers... SEND IT TO THE PERSON DIRECTLY... An e-mail adress can be found at the properties of a message! --[ MARI ]-- -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Tijdstip lezing Nishi op Tilburg Meeting 2001
>>De lezing door Nishi Kazuhiko zal plaatsvinden op 21 april 2001 om 11:00 uur >>precies. bedankt! THANX hoe kom je aan die informatie? of ben jij van de CGV? HOW DIT YOU GET THIS INFORMATION? OR ARE YOU A CGV MEMBER? -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Lecture Nishi at Tilburg Meeting 2001
Nishi Kazuhiko's lecture will be held the 21st april 2001 at 11:00 o'clock. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tijdstip lezing Nishi op Tilburg Meeting 2001
De lezing door Nishi Kazuhiko zal plaatsvinden op 21 april 2001 om 11:00 uur precies. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
> GletsjerI'll be there... > >Pepijn QUICKzAND Stulemeijer > [long pointless quote including HTML & backgroud pic snipped] I wonder what's worse: sending HTML to the list, or replying without taking all that shit out... Pepijn, you can make up by buying me a coffee or beer @ Tilburg ;-) Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
> I'm sorry, but I'm new to this list. > I will not send HTML messages anymore! Ok. You're excused :-) > Are you satisfied with plain tekst? (Or MIME :) Perfect. The only thing left to do bow is learning how to quote... Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
Jeroen Kuppers wrote: > > Gletsjer [etc.] I *really* wished people would stop sending HTML shit in their e-mails. This one even contained some kind of background picture! Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
Title: Gletsjer I'll be there... Pepijn QUICKzAND Stulemeijer -Oorspronkelijk bericht-Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Jeroen KüppersVerzonden: woensdag 18 april 2001 18:36Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Onderwerp: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001 Wie gaat er allemaal naar de Tilbeurs? Who goes to the MSX Fair in Tilburg? Met vriendelijke groet, Kind Regards, Jeroen Küppers.
RE: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
I'm sorry, but I'm new to this list. I will not send HTML messages anymore! Are you satisfied with plain tekst? (Or MIME :) Regards, Jeroen. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens ag0ny Verzonden: woensdag 18 april 2001 19:11 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001 On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Jeroen Küppers wrote: I managed to decrypt your HTML code and found this hidden in the code: >Who goes to the MSX Fair in Tilburg? Me. I'm going. And from now on, I'll send my messages 'encrypted' using ROT13 so they are even more difficult to read (that's my own version of the "I like sending HTML messages to the list" attitude). Regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aamsx.org -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
Jeroen Küppers wrote: >Wie gaat er allemaal naar de Tilbeurs? >Who goes to the MSX Fair in Tilburg? Please don't start a 'me!', 'me too!', 'I'm going' thread ;) Let's say if YOU go, it will be one more person. ok? :) I'm definately gonna be there and I think most dutch people on this mailinglist will go (or at least try to). However, I would be interested to know if any non-dutch people on this list will attend the Tilburg fair! Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Jeroen Küppers wrote: I managed to decrypt your HTML code and found this hidden in the code: >Who goes to the MSX Fair in Tilburg? Me. I'm going. And from now on, I'll send my messages 'encrypted' using ROT13 so they are even more difficult to read (that's my own version of the "I like sending HTML messages to the list" attitude). Regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aamsx.org -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
MSX Fair Tilburg 2001
Title: Gletsjer Wie gaat er allemaal naar de Tilbeurs? Who goes to the MSX Fair in Tilburg? Met vriendelijke groet, Kind Regards, Jeroen Küppers.
another ride to tilburg...
I might need a ride too, I'm in halsteren, near bergen op zoom is there anyone going to the fair from that region?? Pepijn "QUICKzAND" Stulemeijer -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg
> Hoi Laurens, > Heb je inmiddels een 'taxi' naar Tilburg kunnen regelen voor jou en je > vriend uit het hoge noorden. > Ik heb begrepen dat Hans Otten uit Weesp nog plaats over heeft. well I myself was actually planning to go by train, but ofcouse I can also try to catch a ride with someone... I'll ask patriek first, but weesp is very close to bussum... so that is also a good option. would be great. > Zelf zit ik met 8 passagiers tot de nok gevuld. 8 people, that's great! :) > Groeten en tot ziens aanstaande zaterdag, yep, bye. ~Grauw -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg
Hoi Laurens, Heb je inmiddels een 'taxi' naar Tilburg kunnen regelen voor jou en je vriend uit het hoge noorden. Ik heb begrepen dat Hans Otten uit Weesp nog plaats over heeft. Zelf zit ik met 8 passagiers tot de nok gevuld. Groeten en tot ziens aanstaande zaterdag, Frans Pansier (HCC MSXgg) | -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
> >[Dutch only, sorry] > >Neu, die rijden alleen nog maar rondjes om de kerk ;-P > >[/Dutch] > > Those 'blocks around the church' as they call it is just they can't > get INSIDE the church. Obviously, they want to confess a lot, but > the board of 'all-knowing' directors don't let them. :) errm... yah. whatever. anyways guys from TeddyWareZ can you give me your phonenumber? Then I can pass it on to Mark. ~Grauw = -- ><< email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or ICQ: 10196372 visit my homepage at http://grauw.blehq.org/ ><< Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg 2001 (Dutch).
I think it would be interesting enough for computer magazines, news papers and maybe even (local) TV to tell them that more than 15 years after the introduction of a home computer system, the Japanese business tycoon who invented it is visiting a hobbyist fair in Tilburg to talk about future developments. So send out some press releases, but to avoid misunderstandings, please include some lines about the MSX revival project, about the MSX system (maybe a short history of MSX) and some notes about the popularity of this computer in Japan and the western world. And make sure there is someone available at the fair to talk to journalists. Pierre - Original Message - From: Ad Mutsaers To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:05 PM Subject: Tilburg 2001 (Dutch). VICE-PRESIDENT ASCII, MR. NISHI KAZUHIKO, HOUDT LEZING TIJDENS INTERNATIONALE COMPUTER MEETING. Tijdens de internationale computermeeting op 21 april a.s., welke door de Computer Gebruikers Vereniging (CGV) uit Tilburg is georganiseerd, zal door de vice-president Ascii, MR. NISHI KAZUHIKO, de ontwerper van de MSX-computer een lezing worden gehouden. Tevens zullen vanuit Japan aanwezig zijn: Tsujikawa Kazuhiro en Yokoi Hidekatsu. Deze laatste is de drijvende kracht achter het MSX Revival Project.Yokoi Hidekatsu zal bovendien een kleine groep mensen die het meest bijgedragen hebben aan de MSX in Nederland uitnodigen om op 22 april op een nader te bepalen locatie in Tilburg met hem te praten over de toekomst van de MSX in europa. Er bestaan al emulatoren voor PC en MAC om MSX-software te laten werken, maar men wil meer en overweegt nieuwe hardware verder te ontwikkelen, rekening houdend met onze wensen. Openingstijden Internationale Computermeeting Tilburg:Zaterdag 21 April 2001 van 10.00 tot 16.00 uurAdres: De Schans 123 te Tilburg (noord).Info: http://www.cgv.myweb.nl Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ride to tilburg???
At 09:20 17-4-01 +0200, you wrote: >[Dutch only, sorry] >Neu, die rijden alleen nog maar rondjes om de kerk ;-P >[/Dutch] Those 'blocks around the church' as they call it is just they can't get INSIDE the church. Obviously, they want to confess a lot, but the board of 'all-knowing' directors don't let them. :) GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
Hi, >> I just talked to Mark Jelsma on the phone, and he needs a ride >> to Tilburg (from Burgum, in Friesland). Anyone? > >Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) [Dutch only, sorry] Neu, die rijden alleen nog maar rondjes om de kerk ;-P [/Dutch] Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
] ] > > Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) ] > ] >yeah well that's really the perfect alternative for someone with a budget of ] >like 2 guilders. ] >from friesland a return ticket will cost more than 80 bucks! even from here ] >(Bussum, that is) it costs 40 guilders which is imho quite a lot of money ] >(considering I also have to pay for (a part of) a stand and a new MSX and ] >probably also some other stuff). ] ] Uhm.. I could be wrong but if I recall correctly there's a maximum ticket ] cost of 50 guilders. So even if you go from Groningen to Maastricht it will ] still 'only' cost 50 guilders. You are a couple of years behind. The NS is now (partially) privatised so all prices have gone up a lot... Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, the MSX Hardware list, XSA Disk images, documentation, Japanese MSX news from Ikeda and lots more. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
If teh twz cru is going to tilburg, we probably go by car... so IF HeXx can get a car and we are going, maybe we can pick him up... i will have more info about that @ about wednesday or thursday... d-fader -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
At 09:57 15-4-01 +0200, you wrote: > > > > Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) > > > > > Uhm.. I could be wrong but if I recall correctly there's a maximum ticket > > cost of 50 guilders. So even if you go from Groningen to Maastricht it > will > > still 'only' cost 50 guilders. > > > > I admit it's still a lot of money though... > >It _used_ to be Fl.66,- for a 2nd class day-ticket (dagkaart) But it's >Fl.78,50 >now. Unfortunately I'm not in the neighbourhood of Burgum, so I can't give >him a ride :\ That much? NS really sucks nowadays, charging too much for too little service with al those strikes... :( GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
At 22:03 14-4-01 +0200, you wrote: >> > Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) >> >>yeah well that's really the perfect alternative for someone with a budget of >>like 2 guilders. > >Uhm.. I could be wrong but if I recall correctly there's a maximum ticket >cost of 50 guilders. So even if you go from Groningen to Maastricht it >will still 'only' cost 50 guilders. well... actually the max. is 65 guilders, but still... >I admit it's still a lot of money though... it's much. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: a ride to tilburg???
I a leaving around 9:00 in the morning for Tilburg from Weesp by car. If anyone wants a ride, let me know. In the afternoon i will leave quite early (just after the speech). -Original Message- From: Laurens Holst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 April 2001 20:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a ride to tilburg??? > > Hi ppl, > > > > I just talked to Mark Jelsma on the phone, and he needs a ride to Tilburg > (from > > Burgum, in Friesland). Anyone? > > Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) yeah well that's really the perfect alternative for someone with a budget of like 2 guilders. from friesland a return ticket will cost more than 80 bucks! even from here (Bussum, that is) it costs 40 guilders which is imho quite a lot of money (considering I also have to pay for (a part of) a stand and a new MSX and probably also some other stuff). ~Grauw -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
> > > Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) > > > >yeah well that's really the perfect alternative for someone with a budget of > >like 2 guilders. > >from friesland a return ticket will cost more than 80 bucks! even from here > >(Bussum, that is) it costs 40 guilders which is imho quite a lot of money > >(considering I also have to pay for (a part of) a stand and a new MSX and > >probably also some other stuff). > > Uhm.. I could be wrong but if I recall correctly there's a maximum ticket > cost of 50 guilders. So even if you go from Groningen to Maastricht it will > still 'only' cost 50 guilders. > > I admit it's still a lot of money though... It _used_ to be Fl.66,- for a 2nd class day-ticket (dagkaart) But it's Fl.78,50 now. Unfortunately I'm not in the neighbourhood of Burgum, so I can't give him a ride :\ Greetz, Patsie -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Persbericht Computermeeting 21 april 2001 Tilburg
Is there a time known about that Reading - Original Message - From: Ad Mutsaers To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Persbericht Computermeeting 21 april 2001 Tilburg INTERNATIONALE COMPUTER MEETING.Tijdens de internationale computermeeting op 21 april a.s., welke door deComputer Gebruikers Vereniging (CGV) uit Tilburg is georganiseerd, zal doorde vice-president Ascii, MR. NISHI KAZUHIKO, de ontwerper van deMSX-computer een lezing worden gehouden.Tevens zullen vanuit Japan aanwezig zijn: Tsujikawa Kazuhiro en YokoiHidekatsu. Deze laatste is de drijvende kracht achter het MSX RevivalProject.Yokoi Hidekatsu zal bovendien een kleine groep mensen die het meestbijgedragen hebben aan de MSX in Nederland uitnodigen om op 22 april op eennader te bepalen locatie in Tilburg met hem te praten over de toekomst vande MSX in europa.Deze groep mensen ontvangt daarvoor binnenkort persoonlijk een uitnodiging.Er bestaan al emulatoren voor PC en MAC om MSX-software te laten werken,maar men wil meer en overweegt nieuwe hardware verder te ontwikkelen,rekening houdend met onze wensen.Openingstijden Internationale Computermeeting Tilburg:Zaterdag 21 April 2001 van 10.00 tot 16.00 uurAdres: De Schans 123 te Tilburg (noord).Internet: http:/www.cgv.myweb.nlEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ride to tilburg???
> > Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) > >yeah well that's really the perfect alternative for someone with a budget of >like 2 guilders. >from friesland a return ticket will cost more than 80 bucks! even from here >(Bussum, that is) it costs 40 guilders which is imho quite a lot of money >(considering I also have to pay for (a part of) a stand and a new MSX and >probably also some other stuff). Uhm.. I could be wrong but if I recall correctly there's a maximum ticket cost of 50 guilders. So even if you go from Groningen to Maastricht it will still 'only' cost 50 guilders. I admit it's still a lot of money though... Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Persbericht Computermeeting 21 april 2001 Tilburg
INTERNATIONALE COMPUTER MEETING.Tijdens de internationale computermeeting op 21 april a.s., welke door deComputer Gebruikers Vereniging (CGV) uit Tilburg is georganiseerd, zal doorde vice-president Ascii, MR. NISHI KAZUHIKO, de ontwerper van deMSX-computer een lezing worden gehouden.Tevens zullen vanuit Japan aanwezig zijn: Tsujikawa Kazuhiro en YokoiHidekatsu. Deze laatste is de drijvende kracht achter het MSX RevivalProject.Yokoi Hidekatsu zal bovendien een kleine groep mensen die het meestbijgedragen hebben aan de MSX in Nederland uitnodigen om op 22 april op eennader te bepalen locatie in Tilburg met hem te praten over de toekomst vande MSX in europa.Deze groep mensen ontvangt daarvoor binnenkort persoonlijk een uitnodiging.Er bestaan al emulatoren voor PC en MAC om MSX-software te laten werken,maar men wil meer en overweegt nieuwe hardware verder te ontwikkelen,rekening houdend met onze wensen.Openingstijden Internationale Computermeeting Tilburg:Zaterdag 21 April 2001 van 10.00 tot 16.00 uurAdres: De Schans 123 te Tilburg (noord).Internet: http:/www.cgv.myweb.nlEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ride to tilburg???
> > Hi ppl, > > > > I just talked to Mark Jelsma on the phone, and he needs a ride to Tilburg > (from > > Burgum, in Friesland). Anyone? > > Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) yeah well that's really the perfect alternative for someone with a budget of like 2 guilders. from friesland a return ticket will cost more than 80 bucks! even from here (Bussum, that is) it costs 40 guilders which is imho quite a lot of money (considering I also have to pay for (a part of) a stand and a new MSX and probably also some other stuff). ~Grauw -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: a ride to tilburg???
- Original Message - From: "Laurens Holst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MSX Mailinglist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: a ride to tilburg??? > Hi ppl, > > I just talked to Mark Jelsma on the phone, and he needs a ride to Tilburg (from > Burgum, in Friesland). Anyone? Nederlandse spoorwegen :-) -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
a ride to tilburg???
Hi ppl, I just talked to Mark Jelsma on the phone, and he needs a ride to Tilburg (from Burgum, in Friesland). Anyone? ~Grauw -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Tilburg?
The capturecard is a TV card with that BT848 chipset, so it has a Composite input for a VCR or camera. My camera has composite output for playback on TV. It works on the TV card. The TVcard can record at a max. resolution of 388x245 (or close to that) resolution. I have an old videocapture card of Trust (The movie editor). That works even better: Fullscreen capture (TV resolution) with realtime MPEG2 coding. I can put the camera on standby with constant video output to both the cameradisplay and the video out. For the rest: I don't know anything of webcams (what sort of resolution/videoformat what encoder/decoder to use, waht kind of software) I want to try this first. Maybe later I will try a Firewire card. The camera has it. Another thing: The PC the capturecard is in has also a composite video output (TV-out) on his Voodoo 3/3000 card. So enough options. Greetings, Hapzee. > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Pierre Gielen > Verzonden: donderdag 12 april 2001 12:59 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: Tilburg? > > > >I have a TV-capture card maybe with my digital > > camera I can do it?!? > > Many people own a PC with a USB webcam nowadays. I have a webcam > myself with > a video capture card to which I can connect a VCR or camera. Don't know > about your TV capture card though, can it handle composite video > signals or > does your camera have UHF-out? > > Pierre > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tilburg 2001 (Dutch).
VICE-PRESIDENT ASCII, MR. NISHI KAZUHIKO, HOUDT LEZING TIJDENS INTERNATIONALE COMPUTER MEETING. Tijdens de internationale computermeeting op 21 april a.s., welke door de Computer Gebruikers Vereniging (CGV) uit Tilburg is georganiseerd, zal door de vice-president Ascii, MR. NISHI KAZUHIKO, de ontwerper van de MSX-computer een lezing worden gehouden. Tevens zullen vanuit Japan aanwezig zijn: Tsujikawa Kazuhiro en Yokoi Hidekatsu. Deze laatste is de drijvende kracht achter het MSX Revival Project.Yokoi Hidekatsu zal bovendien een kleine groep mensen die het meest bijgedragen hebben aan de MSX in Nederland uitnodigen om op 22 april op een nader te bepalen locatie in Tilburg met hem te praten over de toekomst van de MSX in europa. Er bestaan al emulatoren voor PC en MAC om MSX-software te laten werken, maar men wil meer en overweegt nieuwe hardware verder te ontwikkelen, rekening houdend met onze wensen. Openingstijden Internationale Computermeeting Tilburg:Zaterdag 21 April 2001 van 10.00 tot 16.00 uurAdres: De Schans 123 te Tilburg (noord).Info: http://www.cgv.myweb.nl Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tilburg?
>I have a TV-capture card maybe with my digital > camera I can do it?!? Many people own a PC with a USB webcam nowadays. I have a webcam myself with a video capture card to which I can connect a VCR or camera. Don't know about your TV capture card though, can it handle composite video signals or does your camera have UHF-out? Pierre -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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On 11 Apr 2001, at 16:12, QUICKzAND wrote: > maybe we can get Yady to strip?? > > :P I very much doubt that that is what these Japanese people are coming to our country for. Besides I will not strip for any audience I have not personally carefully selected :) Wynke. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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That would be nice! I will try, but at the moment I don't know if we'll have a phoneline that day. We had last year. (And I don't know if anyone of our club owns a Webcam, I don't. I have a TV-capture card maybe with my digital camera I can do it?!? Hapzee > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Pierre Gielen > Verzonden: woensdag 11 april 2001 10:27 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: Tilburg? > > > > I won't be able to come to the fair. > > Why not make a live connection to the fair through webcam? That would be > nice... > > Pierre > > > > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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Huh? I think this was because I didn't put a Reply Address in the settings of Outlook 2000. Check it now. It should be OK now. But just in case: Greetings, Hapzee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Maarten ter > Huurne > Verzonden: woensdag 11 april 2001 16:13 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: Tilburg? > > > On Wednesday 11 April 2001 07:40, you wrote: > > > Can the > > orginizers send a document with all the attendants at the fair > > and what they will show and/or sell at the fair and where to > > contact them? I would be most pleased! > > You should tell them your e-mail address. Your mail incorrectly > stated it as > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Bye, > Maarten > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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In fact: SGGA once stood for Sinclair Gebruikers Group. So it's old, even older than MSX and even today we have members of the first day, so... YES we also do MSX! I will make foto's and send them to funet, you will be supprised! At the moment I have 3 members taking there MSX to the day and even 1 with his sinclair and 1 with Atari! (I send foto's last year regarding MSX at the "Opendag" Greetings, Hapzee > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Maarten ter > Huurne > Verzonden: woensdag 11 april 2001 21:34 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: Tilburg? > > > On Wednesday 11 April 2001 17:13, you wrote: > > > Stupid Idea to have an "Open Day" at the same day as the great > MSX-Fair in > > Tilburg! > > It's probably not an MSX-only club... > > Bye, > Maarten > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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> maybe we can get Yady to strip?? > > :P > > > her brother\ This should give some interesting footage ;) Looking forward to the pictures on FuNET ;)) TFH/Fony -- Go visit the MEP: MAIN: http://www.file-hunter.com/ FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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On Wednesday 11 April 2001 17:13, you wrote: > Stupid Idea to have an "Open Day" at the same day as the great MSX-Fair in > Tilburg! It's probably not an MSX-only club... Bye, Maarten -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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Stupid Idea to have an "Open Day" at the same day as the great MSX-Fair in Tilburg! I even got a day of (the day before the fair, many thing to organize and arrage)... --[ MARI ]-- -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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maybe we can get Yady to strip?? :P her brother\ -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Manuel Bilderbeek Verzonden: woensdag 11 april 2001 14:18 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Tilburg? So, no one is going to organize a show for Nishi? Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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So, no one is going to organize a show for Nishi? Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Tilburg?
On Wednesday 11 April 2001 07:40, you wrote: > Can the > orginizers send a document with all the attendants at the fair > and what they will show and/or sell at the fair and where to > contact them? I would be most pleased! You should tell them your e-mail address. Your mail incorrectly stated it as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bye, Maarten -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
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> I won't be able to come to the fair. Why not make a live connection to the fair through webcam? That would be nice... Pierre -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tilburg?
I don't know if any of the organizers for the fair in Tilburg are in the list. I won't be able to come to the fair. I would have a stand, but the 21st I am on an "Open dag" of my own computerclub where I can't be missed because I am the secretary of this club (SGGA) Because I am a true MSX fan, I would like to know all that is new on the scene (software and hardware). There where a lot of messages in this list about a couple of newies. Can the orginizers send a document with all the attendants at the fair and what they will show and/or sell at the fair and where to contact them? I would be most pleased! GREETINGS HAPZEE -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Deelname van Japanners aan de beurs in Tilburg (english translation inside!)
Hi, >Rieks Warendorp-Torringa [EMAIL PROTECTED] I rarely view this address lately. If there's something you want to write personally to me, it's better to write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Oh, and, by the way, please omit that annoying - mark when writing my full name :) I am not a woman and not married either. About the meeting: really interesting and I really regret that I can't join - I'm still in Japan at the moment... Rieks. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: TILBURG FAIR
On Wednesday 04 April 2001 07:47, you wrote: > I heard that there will be a pressconference with ASCII. > Is that true. What's the program of that 'special' saturday. There is an archive of this mailinglist at www.msxnet.org, you can find the messages about ASCII and Tilburg there. > Since two days I joined the mailing list so maybe I missed that info. I > only recieved stuff about 'GAY MARRIAGE'. There is some off-topic discussion on this list, but most is on-topic. It just happens that the last two days were pretty much off-topic. Bye, Maarten -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
