Re: [mb-style] Re: RFC: DiscNumberStyle

2006-10-30 Thread pankkake

Are Good Tag Implementations (i.e. not MP3's id3v1 or v2 but e.g. Ogg)
able to understand this form of tags? Well they could also be
translated by Picard when tagging.
(Discogs is already doing that but they don't have the tagging problem.)

On 10/30/06, Rob Keeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This was also discussed at length on the forums, though without any consensus:

http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=13

The central problem, as I see it, is to reconcile the MB definition of
a Release to the realities of vinyl LPs (in particular, multi-disc LP
sets). As for me, I just enter vinyl LPs as if they were a CD, disc
for disc except that I preserve the intended track order on multi-disc
sets. It would be interesting to see if the MB data model could be
made amenable to track numbers such as A1, A2, etc. instead of just
integers.

Rob...
Pianissimo84


On 10/30/06, Jason Bouwmeester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > However, I have a few vinyl rips that of course have 2 tracks on one
> > side and 2 or 3 more on the other side. On the Discogs site, these are
> > listed as tracks A1, A2, B1 and B2. I posted a few weeks ago the
> > mb-users list and the general consensus was to label them as (disc 1)
> > and (disc 2) as if it were a 2 cd set. Technically this is incorrect,
> > it is one disc so to speak, but it does make sense from a logical
> > point of view. I haven't had any issues with entering things this way
> > until recently when I tried to relate a Discogs URL to a (disc 2) of a
> > vinyl B-side, the discussion going there is that a 2 track release is
> > NOT the same as a 4 track release, even though they are on different
> > sides of a vinyl release.
>
> Looks like I have some fixing to do... /sigh :)
>
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Release
>
> Next time I'll get someone to give me a URL if it's based in
> discussion before I go ahead...
>
> Still curious about the linking of disc 1/disc 2 to the same Discogs
> page though.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread pankkake

We need it badly. I saw a lot of artists that could fit in this category.

On 10/10/06, Robert Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Was there a resolution on this issue? If so, I'd like to include this
in the next server release...

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Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-28 Thread pankkake

I think the only things that would have to be fixed are when word
capitalization is used on all the album tracks, because it's really
ugly when it's French. Pure sentence capitalization is always better
than that.

On 7/28/06, Nikki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 01:10:48PM +0200, Mangled wrote:
> >But the situation is completely different. Japanese non-standardness is
> >widely supported by people who listen to Japanese music and they tend to
> >defend it fiercely. There is no consensus about the French guidelines and
> >even many French people themselves aren't using our current ones. How are
> >we supposed to get people to use the guidelines when even people who are
> >native speakers aren't even using them? The burden of keeping 5000 and
> >growing albums in order will be on a just few people, that just won't work.
>
> No time for hypocrisy: MB stays organised thanks to the work of a
> handfull of people (most of them are autoeditors), who are constantly
> doing cleanup / documentation work.
> Add-albums (hitting my subscriptions) 90% of the time require 1-10
> more edits before looking good to me. This is not different.

The French rules have been like that for over a year, yet the French
releases in the database are largely not following them. Either not enough
people care about fixing them (which I don't think is really true) or it's
just too much work for the people with the knowledge and will to fix them
to actually do so.

--Nikki

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[mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-28 Thread pankkake

I don't have the time to read the whole discussion, but as a native
French speaker and being a person very anal* about spelling, grammar
and the like, I have some facts to add:

Whereas in English I see that title rules are most of the times
obseved on things like book titles, movies, etc., in French it
doesn't. While most of the time it's sentence capitalization,
sometimes some words are capitalized for some reason (i.e. the author
feel that they are important).
The capitalized words are most of the time nouns.

I don't think this would clarify the whole thing, but :
- If the artist uses sentence capitalization, use sentence capitalization.
- If the artist capitalizes some words like nouns & adjectives, and
that it is consistent (same capitalization on cover, booklet,
website), and that small words like "de", "le", etc. are not
capitalized, and it seems that there in an an intent or logic, then
capitalize these words.

What it is clear to me is that currently I follow these rules and I
don't understand the current official ones ;-).
My mother is a French language teacher, and I asked her about the
capitalization rules. So yes there are capitalization rules, the
official MB ones are the good ones, but... I think that less than 1%
of the French population knows them (I already forgot them).

* I discovered this wonderful expression on #MusicBrainz

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