Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-16 Thread James Sherwood
We are using 3.0.9 and the latest is 3.1.10

But we connect to the old 4.0 database fine, would the connector matter?

James


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Subject: Re: French Characters, Still no answer


>
>
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, James Sherwood wrote:
>
> > I think I have found the problem:
> >
> > Doing Select @@character_set_database , results, client and connection
it
> > all returns
> > latin1
> >
> > I tried set character_set_x = utf8;  for them all but it did not
work,
> > they stayed latin1 and need to be utf8
> >
> > Any ideas how to change this?
> >
>
> Which version of the Conenctor J  are you using?, is it the latest?
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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-16 Thread Jason Pyeron



On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, James Sherwood wrote:


I think I have found the problem:

Doing Select @@character_set_database , results, client and connection it
all returns
latin1

I tried set character_set_x = utf8;  for them all but it did not work,
they stayed latin1 and need to be utf8

Any ideas how to change this?



Which version of the Conenctor J  are you using?, is it the latest?


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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-16 Thread James Sherwood
I think I have found the problem:

Doing Select @@character_set_database , results, client and connection it
all returns
latin1

I tried set character_set_x = utf8;  for them all but it did not work,
they stayed latin1 and need to be utf8

Any ideas how to change this?

Thanks,
James


- Original Message - 
From: "Gleb Paharenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: French Characters, Still no answer


> Hello.
>
> > Also when we use EMS mysqlmanager to view the data, it is fine, it is
only
> > when it comes back to the tomcat server it seems.
>
> That means that data on the server is ok. Check the values of your
> character_set_client, character_set_connection and character_set_results
> variables from Tomcat's application. See:
>   http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/charset-connection.html
>
>
> > If no one has anymore ideas I think our best route is to dump it,
install
> > 4.0 on this server and import it back in.
>
> Perform an import so that all fields in your table have an utf8 character
> set. And tune properly the connection variables.
>
>
> "James Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry, dont know how I missed: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/187794
> >
> > The old msql was 4.0 and the new one is 4.1.
> >
> > When we first imported the data the database was in latin1(my mistake)
and
> > we put it into production as everything seemed to work fine.
> >
> > We have one site that uses french characters sometimes and they
compained 1
> > week later.  By that time it was too late to roll back so now we have
this
> > problem.
> >
> > We tried converting the database over to Utf8 but it did not seem to
fully
> > work.
> >
> > We can put the french characters in, even from the tomcat server, but
when
> > they come back out to the webpage(we have a content management system)
they
> > are garbled.
> >
> > One night we did some testing and hooked the tomcat to the old database
and
> > everything worked fine with french characters so it has to be the new
> > database.
> >
> > If no one has anymore ideas I think our best route is to dump it,
install
> > 4.0 on this server and import it back in.
> >
> > Everything looks ok as far as Utf8 on the tables and such, I feel that
we
> > are just missing one key thing that is garbling the characters.
> >
> > Also when we use EMS mysqlmanager to view the data, it is fine, it is
only
> > when it comes back to the tomcat server it seems.
> >
> > Thanks for your ideas thus far,
> > James
> >
> >
>
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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-16 Thread Gleb Paharenko
Hello.



> Also when we use EMS mysqlmanager to view the data, it is fine, it is only

> when it comes back to the tomcat server it seems.



That means that data on the server is ok. Check the values of your

character_set_client, character_set_connection and character_set_results

variables from Tomcat's application. See:

  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/charset-connection.html





> If no one has anymore ideas I think our best route is to dump it, install

> 4.0 on this server and import it back in.



Perform an import so that all fields in your table have an utf8 character

set. And tune properly the connection variables. 





"James Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry, dont know how I missed: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/187794

> 

> The old msql was 4.0 and the new one is 4.1.

> 

> When we first imported the data the database was in latin1(my mistake) and

> we put it into production as everything seemed to work fine.

> 

> We have one site that uses french characters sometimes and they compained 1

> week later.  By that time it was too late to roll back so now we have this

> problem.

> 

> We tried converting the database over to Utf8 but it did not seem to fully

> work.

> 

> We can put the french characters in, even from the tomcat server, but when

> they come back out to the webpage(we have a content management system) they

> are garbled.

> 

> One night we did some testing and hooked the tomcat to the old database and

> everything worked fine with french characters so it has to be the new

> database.

> 

> If no one has anymore ideas I think our best route is to dump it, install

> 4.0 on this server and import it back in.

> 

> Everything looks ok as far as Utf8 on the tables and such, I feel that we

> are just missing one key thing that is garbling the characters.

> 

> Also when we use EMS mysqlmanager to view the data, it is fine, it is only

> when it comes back to the tomcat server it seems.

> 

> Thanks for your ideas thus far,

> James

> 

> 



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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-16 Thread James Sherwood
Hello,

I dont think we want to go this route as it was working fine on the 4.0
database on the other server.

I also might add that the old server was linux, and the new one is Windows
2000 Server

Thanks,
James

- Original Message - 
From: "Ace Dimitrievski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: French Characters, Still no answer


> Im not sure if my experience will be of any help but
> here it is:
> I used a database with utf8 as default charset (you
> can easily set this with mysql administrator) and the
> columns that I needed to store Macedonian cyrilic
> characters were varchar. Some letters were stored as
> ?. When I changed the column type to varbinary I was
> able to store/retreive all the letters properly.
> However if you change the type of the columns you
> cannot use the mysql adminisators backup sql queries
> to restore a database that contains utf8 characters
> (at least I failed). Using a PHP script will help. For
> those that use mySQL with some script language using
> base64 encoding/decoding funtions for non latin1
> letters is the safest way (however you cannot strictly
> predict the lenght of the encoded string based on the
> lenght of the plaintext).
> best regards
> ---
> Ace Dimitrievski,
> research assistant,
> Faculty of Electrical Engineering Skopje
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The older version is 4.xx.xx im not sure how to
> tell.
> >
> > New version is 4.1.12
> >
> > Thank you,
> > James
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Bruce Dembecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "James Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: French Characters, Still no answer
> >
> >
> > > Still no answer, perhaps, but ther'es still no
> question.
> > >
> > > Per my earlier response... What version of MySQL
> is the old version
> > > you refer to, what version is the new version you
> refer to? With that
> > > information someone here is more likely to be able
> to tell you
> > > something useful... without that you're not likely
> to get much of a
> > > response.
> > >
> > > Best Regards, Bruce
> > >
> > > On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:59 AM, James Sherwood wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am still having trouble with french characters
> if anyone has ANY
> > > > ideas, please help.
> > > >
> > > > We have installed the newest version of MySql
> and cannot get it to
> > > > play nice
> > > > with French characters.  Our older version
> worked fine.  The
> > > > problem may (or
> > > > may not) be that when we put the dump into the
> new database(yes its
> > > > default
> > > > charset is Utf8) the default character set for
> the table is Utf8
> > > > but some
> > > > fields are like this:
> > > >
> > > > 'Story' longtext character set latin1 NOT NULL
> > > >
> > > > We tried linking our tomcat to the old database
> on the other server
> > > > through
> > > > this tomcat and everything works fine but when
> we link the tomcat
> > > > back to
> > > > the new database, it will not play nice with
> french characters.
> > > > (they come
> > > > out as outlined squares etc)
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
> > > > James
> > > >
> > >
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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-16 Thread James Sherwood
Sorry, dont know how I missed: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/187794

The old msql was 4.0 and the new one is 4.1.

When we first imported the data the database was in latin1(my mistake) and
we put it into production as everything seemed to work fine.

We have one site that uses french characters sometimes and they compained 1
week later.  By that time it was too late to roll back so now we have this
problem.

We tried converting the database over to Utf8 but it did not seem to fully
work.

We can put the french characters in, even from the tomcat server, but when
they come back out to the webpage(we have a content management system) they
are garbled.

One night we did some testing and hooked the tomcat to the old database and
everything worked fine with french characters so it has to be the new
database.

If no one has anymore ideas I think our best route is to dump it, install
4.0 on this server and import it back in.

Everything looks ok as far as Utf8 on the tables and such, I feel that we
are just missing one key thing that is garbling the characters.

Also when we use EMS mysqlmanager to view the data, it is fine, it is only
when it comes back to the tomcat server it seems.

Thanks for your ideas thus far,
James


- Original Message - 
From: "Gleb Paharenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: French Characters, Still no answer


> Hello.
>
> You've already got a good answer:
>   http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/187794
>
>
> Subscribe to mysql list or use web interface. Why are you mixing latin1
> with utf8 in the same column? You can check if something is wrong with
your
> connection variables using the following statement:
>
>   show variables like '%char%';
>
> Use mysql command line client or mysql-query-browser (or other client
> software which correctly handles UTF8 data) to check if import of your
> data was performed successfully. In such a way you can localize the
> problem, and find whether it is related to Tomcat or wrong data in
> MySQL.
>
>
>
>
> >I am still having trouble with french characters if anyone has ANY ideas,
> > please help.
> >
> > We have installed the newest version of MySql and cannot get it to play
> > nice
> > with French characters.  Our older version worked fine.  The problem
> > may (or
> > may not) be that when we put the dump into the new database(yes its
> > default
> > charset is Utf8) the default character set for the table is Utf8 but
> > some
> > fields are like this:
> >
> > 'Story' longtext character set latin1 NOT NULL
> >
> > We tried linking our tomcat to the old database on the other server
> > through
> > this tomcat and everything works fine but when we link the tomcat back
> > to
> > the new database, it will not play nice with french characters. (they
> > come
> > out as outlined squares etc)
> >
> > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
> > James
> >"James Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-15 Thread Ace Dimitrievski
Im not sure if my experience will be of any help but
here it is:
I used a database with utf8 as default charset (you
can easily set this with mysql administrator) and the
columns that I needed to store Macedonian cyrilic
characters were varchar. Some letters were stored as
?. When I changed the column type to varbinary I was
able to store/retreive all the letters properly.
However if you change the type of the columns you
cannot use the mysql adminisators backup sql queries
to restore a database that contains utf8 characters
(at least I failed). Using a PHP script will help. For
those that use mySQL with some script language using
base64 encoding/decoding funtions for non latin1
letters is the safest way (however you cannot strictly
predict the lenght of the encoded string based on the
lenght of the plaintext).
best regards
---
Ace Dimitrievski,
research assistant,
Faculty of Electrical Engineering Skopje
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The older version is 4.xx.xx im not sure how to
tell.
> 
> New version is 4.1.12
> 
> Thank you,
> James
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Dembecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: French Characters, Still no answer
> 
> 
> > Still no answer, perhaps, but ther'es still no
question.
> >
> > Per my earlier response... What version of MySQL
is the old version
> > you refer to, what version is the new version you
refer to? With that
> > information someone here is more likely to be able
to tell you
> > something useful... without that you're not likely
to get much of a
> > response.
> >
> > Best Regards, Bruce
> >
> > On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:59 AM, James Sherwood wrote:
> >
> > > I am still having trouble with french characters
if anyone has ANY
> > > ideas, please help.
> > >
> > > We have installed the newest version of MySql
and cannot get it to
> > > play nice
> > > with French characters.  Our older version
worked fine.  The
> > > problem may (or
> > > may not) be that when we put the dump into the
new database(yes its
> > > default
> > > charset is Utf8) the default character set for
the table is Utf8
> > > but some
> > > fields are like this:
> > >
> > > 'Story' longtext character set latin1 NOT NULL
> > >
> > > We tried linking our tomcat to the old database
on the other server
> > > through
> > > this tomcat and everything works fine but when
we link the tomcat
> > > back to
> > > the new database, it will not play nice with
french characters.
> > > (they come
> > > out as outlined squares etc)
> > >
> > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
> > > James
> > >
> >
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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-15 Thread Gleb Paharenko
Hello.



You've already got a good answer:

  http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/187794





Subscribe to mysql list or use web interface. Why are you mixing latin1

with utf8 in the same column? You can check if something is wrong with your

connection variables using the following statement:



  show variables like '%char%';



Use mysql command line client or mysql-query-browser (or other client

software which correctly handles UTF8 data) to check if import of your

data was performed successfully. In such a way you can localize the

problem, and find whether it is related to Tomcat or wrong data in

MySQL.









>I am still having trouble with french characters if anyone has ANY ideas,

> please help.

>

> We have installed the newest version of MySql and cannot get it to play

> nice

> with French characters.  Our older version worked fine.  The problem

> may (or

> may not) be that when we put the dump into the new database(yes its

> default

> charset is Utf8) the default character set for the table is Utf8 but

> some

> fields are like this:

>

> 'Story' longtext character set latin1 NOT NULL

>

> We tried linking our tomcat to the old database on the other server

> through

> this tomcat and everything works fine but when we link the tomcat back

> to

> the new database, it will not play nice with french characters. (they

> come

> out as outlined squares etc)

>

> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

> James

>"James Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-15 Thread James Sherwood
The older version is 4.xx.xx im not sure how to tell.

New version is 4.1.12

Thank you,
James


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From: "Bruce Dembecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: French Characters, Still no answer


> Still no answer, perhaps, but ther'es still no question.
>
> Per my earlier response... What version of MySQL is the old version
> you refer to, what version is the new version you refer to? With that
> information someone here is more likely to be able to tell you
> something useful... without that you're not likely to get much of a
> response.
>
> Best Regards, Bruce
>
> On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:59 AM, James Sherwood wrote:
>
> > I am still having trouble with french characters if anyone has ANY
> > ideas, please help.
> >
> > We have installed the newest version of MySql and cannot get it to
> > play nice
> > with French characters.  Our older version worked fine.  The
> > problem may (or
> > may not) be that when we put the dump into the new database(yes its
> > default
> > charset is Utf8) the default character set for the table is Utf8
> > but some
> > fields are like this:
> >
> > 'Story' longtext character set latin1 NOT NULL
> >
> > We tried linking our tomcat to the old database on the other server
> > through
> > this tomcat and everything works fine but when we link the tomcat
> > back to
> > the new database, it will not play nice with french characters.
> > (they come
> > out as outlined squares etc)
> >
> > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
> > James
> >
>
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Re: French Characters, Still no answer

2005-08-15 Thread Bruce Dembecki

Still no answer, perhaps, but ther'es still no question.

Per my earlier response... What version of MySQL is the old version  
you refer to, what version is the new version you refer to? With that  
information someone here is more likely to be able to tell you  
something useful... without that you're not likely to get much of a  
response.


Best Regards, Bruce

On Aug 15, 2005, at 7:59 AM, James Sherwood wrote:

I am still having trouble with french characters if anyone has ANY  
ideas, please help.


We have installed the newest version of MySql and cannot get it to  
play nice
with French characters.  Our older version worked fine.  The  
problem may (or
may not) be that when we put the dump into the new database(yes its  
default
charset is Utf8) the default character set for the table is Utf8  
but some

fields are like this:

'Story' longtext character set latin1 NOT NULL

We tried linking our tomcat to the old database on the other server  
through
this tomcat and everything works fine but when we link the tomcat  
back to
the new database, it will not play nice with french characters.  
(they come

out as outlined squares etc)

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
James




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