Re: MySQL dying?

[hsv]

 2014/11/26 14:25 -0600, Peter Brawley 
www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqltips.php, 

And this page is an HTML hack, table for column ... generated by a (PHP?) 
program?

*sigh*


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Peter Brawley]

On 2014-11-24 3:24 PM, Neil Tompkins wrote:

Personally I think people, myself included are using other resources like 
stackoverflow to get answers to my MySQL questions.


Visits to our MySQL article pages (www.artfulsoftware.com/queries.php, 
http://www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqlquerytree.php, 
www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqltips.php, 
www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqltiptree.php) went up 10% from 
2012-2013 and have gone up 20% from 2013-2014.


PB

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On 24 Nov 2014, at 17:27, Michael Dykman  wrote:

Please gentlemen,

It is a valid question if a somewhat hackneyed one.

MySQL continues to live on in many forms but obviously, would have to lose
some ground in the face of the NoSQL solutions which are in vogue. The
concepts of relational data are too powerful to stop being relevant but it
is not longer the universal data store it once was seen as (The aplies to
RDBMS in general).

Let's not ugly up this list (which I have been on for an absurdly long
time) with flame wars.  It certainly does not have the bandwidth it once
did, but flames are a terrible way to boost it.


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ruben Safir  wrote:


On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote:

- Original Message -

From: "Ruben Safir" 
Subject: Re: MySQL dying?

Well, this mailing list is dead.  This is a mailing list that used to
handle 70+ questions a day, or more.


Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago?

If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either

ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth.


Bye now.


No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the
last 2 years.  Its not an issue of trolling.  But perhaps Oracle could
have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have
failed to.  If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than
missed the point, you missed the entire boat.

Bandwidth?  This list no longer produces bandwidth...  It has been
abandoned.  What would you have done in those days when we handled so
much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the
real trolls?

You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks.

Now, back to business..

Ruben

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Re: MySQL dying?

[Neil Tompkins]

Personally I think people, myself included are using other resources like 
stackoverflow to get answers to my MySQL questions. 

> On 24 Nov 2014, at 17:27, Michael Dykman  wrote:
> 
> Please gentlemen,
> 
> It is a valid question if a somewhat hackneyed one.
> 
> MySQL continues to live on in many forms but obviously, would have to lose
> some ground in the face of the NoSQL solutions which are in vogue. The
> concepts of relational data are too powerful to stop being relevant but it
> is not longer the universal data store it once was seen as (The aplies to
> RDBMS in general).
> 
> Let's not ugly up this list (which I have been on for an absurdly long
> time) with flame wars.  It certainly does not have the bandwidth it once
> did, but flames are a terrible way to boost it.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ruben Safir  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote:
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Ruben Safir" 
>>>> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?
>>>> 
>>>> Well, this mailing list is dead.  This is a mailing list that used to
>>>> handle 70+ questions a day, or more.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago?
>>> 
>>> If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either
>> ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bye now.
>> 
>> 
>> No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the
>> last 2 years.  Its not an issue of trolling.  But perhaps Oracle could
>> have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have
>> failed to.  If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than
>> missed the point, you missed the entire boat.
>> 
>> Bandwidth?  This list no longer produces bandwidth...  It has been
>> abandoned.  What would you have done in those days when we handled so
>> much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the
>> real trolls?
>> 
>> You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks.
>> 
>> Now, back to business..
>> 
>> Ruben
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Re: MySQL dying?

[Johan De Meersman]

- Original Message -
> From: "Ruben Safir" 
> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?

> where were you in 2000, youngerman?

Busy writing WAP backends powered out of MySQL and Oracle, if I remember 
correctly :-) But, indeed, not on this list; and if you were here back then I 
may have severly misjudged you. My apologies for that.

However, I find it hard to believe that you are suggesting that MySQL is in a 
worse state now than it was back then, let alone that there were more users 
back then than now...

What exactly do you see going wrong under Oracle stewardship? There haven't 
been this many bugs fixed and new features implemented in years.


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Ruben Safir]

On 11/24/2014 12:19 PM, Johan De Meersman wrote:
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ruben Safir" 
>> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?
> 
>> abandoned.  What would you have done in those days when we handled so
>> much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the
>> real trolls?
> 
> "We"? You mean the two mails you sent back in 2011 trying to figure out how 
> to install the C++ connector?
> 
> *plonk*
> 
> 

where were you in 2000, youngerman?

plonk is correct.


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Ruben Safir]

On 11/24/2014 12:19 PM, Johan De Meersman wrote:
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ruben Safir" 
>> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?
> 
>> abandoned.  What would you have done in those days when we handled so
>> much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the
>> real trolls?
> 
> "We"? You mean the two mails you sent back in 2011 trying to figure out how 
> to install the C++ connector?
> 
> *plonk*
> 
> 

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Re: MySQL dying?

[Michael Dykman]

Please gentlemen,

It is a valid question if a somewhat hackneyed one.

MySQL continues to live on in many forms but obviously, would have to lose
some ground in the face of the NoSQL solutions which are in vogue. The
concepts of relational data are too powerful to stop being relevant but it
is not longer the universal data store it once was seen as (The aplies to
RDBMS in general).

Let's not ugly up this list (which I have been on for an absurdly long
time) with flame wars.  It certainly does not have the bandwidth it once
did, but flames are a terrible way to boost it.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ruben Safir  wrote:

> On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Ruben Safir" 
> >> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?
> >>
> >> Well, this mailing list is dead.  This is a mailing list that used to
> >> handle 70+ questions a day, or more.
> >
> >
> > Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago?
> >
> > If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either
> ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth.
> >
> >
> > Bye now.
> >
>
>
> No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the
> last 2 years.  Its not an issue of trolling.  But perhaps Oracle could
> have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have
> failed to.  If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than
> missed the point, you missed the entire boat.
>
> Bandwidth?  This list no longer produces bandwidth...  It has been
> abandoned.  What would you have done in those days when we handled so
> much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the
> real trolls?
>
> You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks.
>
> Now, back to business..
>
> Ruben
>
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Re: MySQL dying?

[Johan De Meersman]

- Original Message -
> From: "Ruben Safir" 
> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?

> abandoned.  What would you have done in those days when we handled so
> much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the
> real trolls?

"We"? You mean the two mails you sent back in 2011 trying to figure out how to 
install the C++ connector?

*plonk*


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Ruben Safir]

On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ruben Safir" 
>> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?
>>
>> Well, this mailing list is dead.  This is a mailing list that used to
>> handle 70+ questions a day, or more.
> 
> 
> Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago?
> 
> If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either ask 
> a question or stop wasting bandwidth.
> 
> 
> Bye now.
> 


No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the
last 2 years.  Its not an issue of trolling.  But perhaps Oracle could
have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have
failed to.  If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than
missed the point, you missed the entire boat.

Bandwidth?  This list no longer produces bandwidth...  It has been
abandoned.  What would you have done in those days when we handled so
much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the
real trolls?

You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks.

Now, back to business..

Ruben

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Re: MySQL dying?

[Ruben Safir]

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:31:24PM +0100, Heck, Walter wrote:
> I watched a keynote from Thomas Ulin at Percona Live London a few weeks
> back, and the slides are quite interesting:
> https://www.percona.com/live/london-2014/sites/default/files/slides/PerconaLondon14_keynote.pdf
> 


Well, this mailing list is dead.  This is a mailing list that used to
handle 70+ questions a day, or more.

Ruben

> There's a lot of haters (some with more valid reasons to hate, others with
> little or no reason), but it cannot be denied that Oracle did not let MySQL
> die..
> 
> cheers,
> 
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Ruben Safir  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Anthony Pace" 
> > > >
> > > > I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> > > > shifting to other type of DB's .
> > >
> > > I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity
> > (and because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who*
> > have you heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-)
> > >
> > > I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will
> > be claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to
> > be stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around
> > the time Oracle announced the takeover.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > And for damn good reason.  And looking back, it is hard to believe that
> > this was almost true a mear 2 years ago.  We are in one of the most
> > rapid rivers of change I'd ever experienced, and most of the change is
> > not good, not good at all...starting with Oracle buying Sun and Mysql
> >
> >
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Re: MySQL dying?

[Johan De Meersman]

- Original Message -
> From: "Ruben Safir" 
> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?
> 
> Well, this mailing list is dead.  This is a mailing list that used to
> handle 70+ questions a day, or more.


Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago?

If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either ask a 
question or stop wasting bandwidth.


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Heck, Walter]

I watched a keynote from Thomas Ulin at Percona Live London a few weeks
back, and the slides are quite interesting:
https://www.percona.com/live/london-2014/sites/default/files/slides/PerconaLondon14_keynote.pdf

There's a lot of haters (some with more valid reasons to hate, others with
little or no reason), but it cannot be denied that Oracle did not let MySQL
die..

cheers,

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Ruben Safir  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Anthony Pace" 
> > >
> > > I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> > > shifting to other type of DB's .
> >
> > I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity
> (and because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who*
> have you heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-)
> >
> > I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will
> be claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to
> be stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around
> the time Oracle announced the takeover.
> >
> >
>
> And for damn good reason.  And looking back, it is hard to believe that
> this was almost true a mear 2 years ago.  We are in one of the most
> rapid rivers of change I'd ever experienced, and most of the change is
> not good, not good at all...starting with Oracle buying Sun and Mysql
>
>
> >
> > --
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> > August, 12 to 19, Diksmuide, Belgium - http://lbw2012.tuxera.be
> >
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>
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Re: MySQL dying?

[Ruben Safir]

On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Anthony Pace" 
> > 
> > I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> > shifting to other type of DB's .
> 
> I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity (and 
> because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who* have 
> you heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-)
> 
> I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will be 
> claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to be 
> stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around the 
> time Oracle announced the takeover.
> 
> 

And for damn good reason.  And looking back, it is hard to believe that
this was almost true a mear 2 years ago.  We are in one of the most
rapid rivers of change I'd ever experienced, and most of the change is
not good, not good at all...starting with Oracle buying Sun and Mysql


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Johan De Meersman]

- Original Message -
> From: "Anthony Pace" 
> 
> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> shifting to other type of DB's .

I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity (and 
because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who* have you 
heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-)

I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will be 
claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to be 
stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around the time 
Oracle announced the takeover.



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Re: MySQL dying?

[Andrew Moore]

MySQL runs the internet. Go ahead kill it. I dare you.


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Karen Abgarian  wrote:

> MySQL, like all other products, can be peachy or bitchy.   Good ones, they
> also die.Wish I was kidding :-)
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Andrés Tello wrote:
>
> > Are u kidding?
> >
> > Mysql is dead easy and damn good... obviously it has its perks, but any
> database engine has them... (I'm looking at you DB2)...
> >
> > There has been a lot of improvements lately, I "feel" that mysql is
> moving much more faster under oracle umbrella than when it was alone...
> >
> > Replication... omg, replicacion is DEAD easy! so easy, that usually you
> doublecheck things just because you are unsure that is SO easy...
> >
> > Partitioning, views, storeprocedures, explain and analise are good
> enough... it simply work... I never, ever had a database corruption (I'm
> looking at to you Mssql!) ...
> >
> > I have tables with more the 5millon rows, noproblem, I have a table with
> more than 40 millon rows... and of course I have troubles, but always,
> always been resolved...
> >
> > Mysql is... wonderful, it just works... You want it to "work as a
> storage with out integrity?", done.. with integrity? done, replicaion,
> encryption, secure connections, partition... name your feature!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Singer Wang 
> wrote:
> > Lol! Good point Karen!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian  wrote:
> >
> > > A touch of realism: we are all dying.   For some, it may take a while,
> > > hopefully.
> > >
> > > On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most
> common
> > > > database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop
> using
> > > > mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will
> happen.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Tim Pownall
> > > > Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring
> > > > Hostgator.com LLC
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace <
> anthony.p...@utoronto.ca
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> > > shifting
> > > >> to other type of DB's .
> > > >>
> > > >> Any thoughts?
> > > >>
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> > > >
> > > > Tim Pownall
> > > > GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring
> > > > 610-621-9712
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> > >
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> >
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Re: MySQL dying?

[hsv]

 2012/12/04 15:18 -0800, Karen Abgarian 
MySQL, like all other products, can be peachy or bitchy.   Good ones, they also 
die.Wish I was kidding :-) 

Mind VHS & BetaMax? BetaMax had much better color--but VHS long outlasted it.


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Karen Abgarian]

MySQL, like all other products, can be peachy or bitchy.   Good ones, they also 
die.Wish I was kidding :-)


On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Andrés Tello wrote:

> Are u kidding?  
>  
> Mysql is dead easy and damn good... obviously it has its perks, but any 
> database engine has them... (I'm looking at you DB2)... 
>  
> There has been a lot of improvements lately, I "feel" that mysql is moving 
> much more faster under oracle umbrella than when it was alone... 
>  
> Replication... omg, replicacion is DEAD easy! so easy, that usually you 
> doublecheck things just because you are unsure that is SO easy...  
>  
> Partitioning, views, storeprocedures, explain and analise are good enough... 
> it simply work... I never, ever had a database corruption (I'm looking at to 
> you Mssql!) ... 
>  
> I have tables with more the 5millon rows, noproblem, I have a table with more 
> than 40 millon rows... and of course I have troubles, but always, always been 
> resolved... 
>  
> Mysql is... wonderful, it just works... You want it to "work as a storage 
> with out integrity?", done.. with integrity? done, replicaion, encryption, 
> secure connections, partition... name your feature! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Singer Wang  wrote:
> Lol! Good point Karen!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian  wrote:
> 
> > A touch of realism: we are all dying.   For some, it may take a while,
> > hopefully.
> >
> > On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote:
> >
> > > Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common
> > > database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using
> > > mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tim Pownall
> > > Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring
> > > Hostgator.com LLC
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace  > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> > shifting
> > >> to other type of DB's .
> > >>
> > >> Any thoughts?
> > >>
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Re: MySQL dying?

[Andrés Tello]

Are u kidding?

Mysql is dead easy and damn good... obviously it has its perks, but any
database engine has them... (I'm looking at you DB2)...

There has been a lot of improvements lately, I "feel" that mysql is moving
much more faster under oracle umbrella than when it was alone...

Replication... omg, replicacion is DEAD easy! so easy, that usually you
doublecheck things just because you are unsure that is SO easy...

Partitioning, views, storeprocedures, explain and analise are good
enough... it simply work... I never, ever had a database corruption (I'm
looking at to you Mssql!) ...

I have tables with more the 5millon rows, noproblem, I have a table with
more than 40 millon rows... and of course I have troubles, but always,
always been resolved...

Mysql is... wonderful, it just works... You want it to "work as a storage
with out integrity?", done.. with integrity? done, replicaion, encryption,
secure connections, partition... name your feature!









On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Singer Wang  wrote:

> Lol! Good point Karen!
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian  wrote:
>
> > A touch of realism: we are all dying.   For some, it may take a while,
> > hopefully.
> >
> > On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote:
> >
> > > Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most
> common
> > > database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop
> using
> > > mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will
> happen.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tim Pownall
> > > Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring
> > > Hostgator.com LLC
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace <
> anthony.p...@utoronto.ca
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> > shifting
> > >> to other type of DB's .
> > >>
> > >> Any thoughts?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> MySQL General Mailing List
> > >> For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
> > >> To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tim Pownall
> > > GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring
> > > 610-621-9712
> > > pownall...@gmail.com
> >
> >
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>

Re: MySQL dying?

[Singer Wang]

Lol! Good point Karen!


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian  wrote:

> A touch of realism: we are all dying.   For some, it may take a while,
> hopefully.
>
> On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote:
>
> > Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common
> > database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using
> > mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Pownall
> > Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring
> > Hostgator.com LLC
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace  >wrote:
> >
> >> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> shifting
> >> to other type of DB's .
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> --
> >> MySQL General Mailing List
> >> For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
> >> To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Pownall
> > GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring
> > 610-621-9712
> > pownall...@gmail.com
>
>
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RE: MySQL dying?

[Rick James]

Oracle is investing a lot into improvements in MySQL and releasing most of it 
in the Community version.  

Meanwhile, MariaDB is a serious contender.  It is a drop-in replacement for 
MySQL.  And Percona's Xtradb (included in MariaDB) is a drop-in replacement for 
InnoDB.  If Oracle did something nasty, there are exit strategies that do not 
involve porting to some other RDBMS.

I say "don't worry".

> -Original Message-
> From: Karen Abgarian [mailto:a...@apple.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:03 AM
> To: mysql.
> Subject: Re: MySQL dying?
> 
> A touch of realism: we are all dying.   For some, it may take a while,
> hopefully.
> 
> On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote:
> 
> > Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most
> > common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to
> > stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not
> think will happen.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Pownall
> > Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring
> > Hostgator.com LLC
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace
> wrote:
> >
> >> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is
> >> shifting to other type of DB's .
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> --
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> >> For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
> >> To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Pownall
> > GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring
> > 610-621-9712
> > pownall...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: MySQL dying?

[Karen Abgarian]

A touch of realism: we are all dying.   For some, it may take a while, 
hopefully.  

On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote:

> Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common
> database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using
> mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim Pownall
> Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring
> Hostgator.com LLC
> 
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace wrote:
> 
>> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting
>> to other type of DB's .
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> --
>> MySQL General Mailing List
>> For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
>> To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim Pownall
> GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring
> 610-621-9712
> pownall...@gmail.com


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Re: MySQL dying?

[Tim Pownall]

Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common
database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using
mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen.

Thanks,

Tim Pownall
Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring
Hostgator.com LLC

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace wrote:

> I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting
> to other type of DB's .
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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> To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
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Re: MySQL dying suddenly

[Sasha Pachev]

On Monday 15 April 2002 02:39 pm, Leonardo Dias wrote:
> I received the message that made our MySQL die sometimes now. Our mysqld
> is the binary package available @ www.mysql.com. Version is 3.23.49a
> 
> 
> The error message is below.
> 
> key_buffer_size=16773120
> record_buffer=1019904
> sort_buffer=1048568
> max_used_connections=284
> max_connections=500
> threads_connected=59
> It is possible that mysqld could use up to 
> key_buffer_size + (record_buffer + sort_buffer)*max_connections =
> 1026376 K
> bytes of memory
> Hope that's ok, if not, decrease some variables in the equation
> 
> Attempting backtrace. You can use the following information to find out
> where mysqld died. If you see no messages after this, something went
> terribly wrong...
> Stack range sanity check OK, backtrace follows:
> 0x807bb5f
> 0x82a94aa
> 0x82cc0d5
> 0x82c31ae
> 0x82ca6b5
> 0x8077a6c
> 0x8080ca0
> Stack trace seems successful - bottom reached
> Please read http://www.mysql.com/doc/U/s/Using_stack_trace.html and
> follow instructions on how to resolve the stack trace. Resolved
> stack trace is much more helpful in diagnosing the problem, so please do 
> resolve it
> Trying to get some variables.
> Some pointers may be invalid and cause the dump to abort...
> thd->query at (nil)  is invalid pointer
> thd->thread_id=521437
> 
> Since in this version everything is compiled statically, I don't know
> what is wrong exactly. The log has the following information:
> 
>  521437 Connect [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
>  521437 Init DB vagas
>  521437 Query   select * from temp_vg_olhados where
> idvg=404147 and tabela = 'vagasvg'
>  521437 Init DB vagas
>  521437 Query   update temp_vg_olhados set
> nvg_olhados = nvg_olhados + 1 where idvg=404147 and tabela = 'vagasvg'
> 
> 
> apparently an innocent query followed by an update. The binary package
> is statically linked ad it started happening after we started using
> InnoDB. The version is, actually, 3.23.49a-Max.
> 
> Although I can't reproduce a better test case than this, I'm sure that
> you can check the binaries you have compiled statically there at MySQL
> AB and reproduce this bug with similar situations. The problem has this
> pattern: it is always a query in a MyISAM table followed by an update.
> 
> Although it happens all the time in our application, sometimes it
> crashes the database.

We have just discovered a bug with 3.23.49a binaries - there is a small 
memory overrun if you have services with names less than 5 characters in 
/etc/nsswitch.conf that are not dns. The most common ones would be db and 
nis. So to begin troubleshooting, make sure you do not have db, nis, or any 
other short-character service names in /etc/nsswitch.conf so as not to 
trigger this bug.

If your /etc/nsswitch.conf is not problematic, the next step in 
troubleshooting the problem is to check if temp_vg_olhados does not get 
corrupted at any point.


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Re: MySQL dying suddenly

[Rafal Jank]

> apparently an innocent query followed by an update. The binary package
> is statically linked ad it started happening after we started using
> InnoDB. The version is, actually, 3.23.49a-Max.
> 
> Although I can't reproduce a better test case than this, I'm sure that
> you can check the binaries you have compiled statically there at MySQL
> AB and reproduce this bug with similar situations. The problem has this
> pattern: it is always a query in a MyISAM table followed by an update.
I have a similar problem - very similar queries, byt the table is of InnoDB
type. 


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