largescale internet blackout in indian broadband services

2004-09-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
These people provide DSL, leased lines as well as last mile connectivity 
for a whole lot of Indian broadband providers, and they also run a rather 
popular cdma wireless phone and gsm cellphone service.

srs
-
http://www.hindu.com/2004/09/16/stories/2004091611870300.htm
Airtel and Touchtel services were shut down in Chennai at about 8.45pm
IST last night due to a fire in their NOC.
[...]


Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Randy Bush [15/09/04 09:11 -1000]:
> this is a problem with eof, nanog, apricot, ...  the actual running
> and decision-making is not done by operators.  it is done by the
> usual well-meaning people representing operators.  and, of course,

At least in apricot's case, if anybody wants to help, and proves that he can
help effectively, he / she is welcome to help .. it kind of boils down to "X,
Y and Z are willing to roll up their sleeves and help in everything from
chasing after sponsors, running a registration system etc to actually coming
into the conference venue with a satchel full of access points and wiring the
place up"

Operators, vendors, people who represent the operator community, it doesn't
really matter at all.  Anyone who is willing to spare technical /
organizational expertise and considerable chunks of spare time is welcome to
step up to the plate and volunteer.

srs (not speaking for the apricot mgmt committee here)


Re: Excessive Internet Traffic

2004-09-15 Thread Joe Shen

Is that a variant of Nachi B. ? The source address may
be generated.
joe

 --- Robert Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
> 
> The University of Central Florida has seen a sudden
> jump in tcp 445
> denies. It began a little after 9:00 AM EDST. New
> Worm?
> 
> I am denying about 32 thousand packets per second.
> IP Cache flow show
> them well spread over a wide range of addresses,
> targeted at what
> apeears to be a random sample of my class B. The ACL
> on our border
> router is taking 21 million denies every 10 minutes.
> 
> 
> 60 deny tcp any any eq 445 (346740094 matches)
> 
> The packets are small, since I am seeing a large
> nuber of packets, but
> the bit count is low.
>   30 second input rate 72679000 bits/sec, 41033
> packets/sec
>   30 second output rate 29208000 bits/sec, 7687
> packets/sec
>  Input bits per second are a little above normal,
> but the packet count
> would normally be under 1 not 41000.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> TIA
> 
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> Robert Scott says "NO APPLEBEES!"
> Join The Boycott!
> 
> Robert D. Scott
> Associate Director
> Computer Services and Telecommunications
> Network Operations
> University of Central Florida
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CSB-310
> 407-823-0662  Voice
> 407-823-5476  FAX
> 345-0662  Sun-Com
> 877-549-5390 Pager
> 
>  

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Re: Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Arnold Nipper

On 15.09.2004 21:33 Paul Jakma wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Greg Schwimer wrote:
> 
> 
>>Yes, I verified it.  Oddly, it was preceeded by not being able to run a
>>whois against whois.ripe.net for about 20 minutes from my location
>>(connection timed out).  Seems to be working fine now.  Must be the
>>gremlins.
> 
> 
> Or maybe you got banned for too many connections/minute or requesting 
> too much data. RIPE auto-block whois queries based on both criteria, 
> iirc.
> 

But then you get a notification and not only a simple timeout ... iirc


Arnold



Re: Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Greg Schwimer wrote:
Yes, I verified it.  Oddly, it was preceeded by not being able to run a
whois against whois.ripe.net for about 20 minutes from my location
(connection timed out).  Seems to be working fine now.  Must be the
gremlins.
Or maybe you got banned for too many connections/minute or requesting 
too much data. RIPE auto-block whois queries based on both criteria, 
iirc.

regards,
--
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Fortune:
Stupidity is its own reward.


Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-15 Thread Randy Bush

> I would much appreciate if EOF gets more input from "RIPE" operators.

this is a problem with eof, nanog, apricot, ...  the actual running
and decision-making is not done by operators.  it is done by the
usual well-meaning people representing operators.  and, of course,
they are in extreme, and almost amusing, denial that there is a
difference.

i am not sure how foro de redes is currently operated; it used to
be heavily operator run.  it is interesting to note that afnog is
organized and run pretty much by operators.  i guess they can't
afford net.bureaucrats to represent them :-).

randy



Re: Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Greg Schwimer





Yes, I verified it.  Oddly, it was preceeded by not being able to run a
whois against whois.ripe.net for about 20 minutes from my location
(connection timed out).  Seems to be working fine now.  Must be the
gremlins.

Jeje wrote:

  --On mercredi 15 septembre 2004 11:16 -0700 Greg Schwimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
I'm seeing this from multiple locations.  Anyone else?  I get a similar response from their
web whois as well.

whois -h whois.ripe.net 

% This is the RIPE Whois secondary server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html

inetnum:  0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255
netname:  IANA-BLK

  
  
This is what you get by default if the block you requested is not RIPE's

Are you sure you're requesting a RIPE's block ?

Jerome.
  





Re: Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Richard Cox

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:16:44 -0700
"Greg Schwimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm seeing this from multiple locations.  Anyone else?
> I get a similar response from their web whois as well.

Just now I got correct responses on (my own) RIPE assigned address
block, accessing from multiple locations, and via their website.

-- 
Richard Cox



Re: Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Greg Schwimer wrote:
whois -h whois.ripe.net 
% This is the RIPE Whois secondary server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html
inetnum:  0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255
netname:  IANA-BLK
descr:The whole IPv4 address space
It works for me:
jwhois 193.110.157.0 -h whois.ripe.net
[Querying whois.ripe.net]
[whois.ripe.net]
% This is the RIPE Whois secondary server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html
inetnum:  193.110.157.0 - 193.110.157.255
netname:  XTDNET
descr:Xtended Internet
country:  NL
admin-c:  PW237-RIPE
tech-c:   PW237-RIPE
notify:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
status:   ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by:   XTDNET-MNT
mnt-by:   RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT
mnt-lower:RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT
mnt-routes:   XTDNET-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020219
source:   RIPE
[ snip the rest ]


Re: Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Greg Schwimer





Odd. It's working now.  

Arnold Nipper wrote:

  
On 15.09.2004 20:16 Greg Schwimer wrote:

  
  
I'm seeing this from multiple locations.  Anyone else?  I get a similar 
response from their web whois as well.

whois -h whois.ripe.net 


  
  
Everything is fine here

whois -h whois.ripe.net -r -T inetnum 80.81.192.0/20
% This is the RIPE Whois secondary server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html

inetnum:  80.81.192.0 - 80.81.207.255
org:  ORG-DtGI1-RIPE
netname:  DE-CIX-20010724
descr:Provider Local Registry
country:  DE
admin-c:  AN6695-RIPE
tech-c:   AN6695-RIPE
tech-c:   GD9-RIPE
notify:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
status:   ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by:   RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:DECIX-MNT
mnt-routes:   DECIX-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010724
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020614
source:   RIPE

  





Re: Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Arnold Nipper



On 15.09.2004 20:16 Greg Schwimer wrote:

> I'm seeing this from multiple locations.  Anyone else?  I get a similar 
> response from their web whois as well.
> 
> whois -h whois.ripe.net 
> 

Everything is fine here

whois -h whois.ripe.net -r -T inetnum 80.81.192.0/20
% This is the RIPE Whois secondary server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html

inetnum:  80.81.192.0 - 80.81.207.255
org:  ORG-DtGI1-RIPE
netname:  DE-CIX-20010724
descr:Provider Local Registry
country:  DE
admin-c:  AN6695-RIPE
tech-c:   AN6695-RIPE
tech-c:   GD9-RIPE
notify:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
status:   ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by:   RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:DECIX-MNT
mnt-routes:   DECIX-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010724
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020614
source:   RIPE



Problem with whois.ripe.net?

2004-09-15 Thread Greg Schwimer
I'm seeing this from multiple locations.  Anyone else?  I get a similar 
response from their web whois as well.

whois -h whois.ripe.net 
% This is the RIPE Whois secondary server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html
inetnum:  0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255
netname:  IANA-BLK
descr:The whole IPv4 address space
country:  EU # Country is really world wide
org:  ORG-IANA1-RIPE
admin-c:  IANA1-RIPE
tech-c:   IANA1-RIPE
status:   ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED
remarks:  The country is really worldwide.
remarks:  This address space is assigned at various other places in
remarks:  the world and might therefore not be in the RIPE database.
mnt-by:   RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-routes:   RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010529
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020625
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20031014
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20040422
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20040504
source:   RIPE
organisation: ORG-IANA1-RIPE
org-name: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
org-type: IANA
address:  see http://www.iana.org
remarks:  The IANA allocates IP addresses and AS number blocks to RIRs
remarks:  see http://www.iana.org/ipaddress/ip-addresses.htm
remarks:  and http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers
e-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin-c:  IANA1-RIPE
tech-c:   IANA1-RIPE
mnt-ref:  RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by:   RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20040417
source:   RIPE
role: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
address:  see http://www.iana.org.
e-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin-c:  IANA1-RIPE
tech-c:   IANA1-RIPE
nic-hdl:  IANA1-RIPE
remarks:  For more information on IANA services
remarks:  go to IANA web site at http://www.iana.org.
mnt-by:   RIPE-NCC-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010411
source:   RIPE


Re: Excessive Internet Traffic

2004-09-15 Thread J. Oquendo


// The packets are small, since I am seeing a large nuber of packets, but
// the bit count is low.
//  30 second input rate 72679000 bits/sec, 41033 packets/sec
//  30 second output rate 29208000 bits/sec, 7687 packets/sec
// Input bits per second are a little above normal, but the packet count
// would normally be under 1 not 41000.
//
// Ideas?

This is likely a variant of what I forsee to become the "next big pain", a
variant of sdbot, of which McAfee claims there are 4000 variants.

I've had to deal with quite a few (and climbing) numbers of infected users
of this pain. We use a Packeteer and have listed comps sending outbound
445 garbage and I've found that almost all have been infected by one of
the versions of this particular worm. Which of the 4000 versions it is
eludes me.

This is what I've seen so far. If you look at the machine sending the
traffic out, you're likely going to see a smorgasbord of junk in
c:\WINDOWS\system32 ... If you view the folder as a list, then sort by
date, you're likely to find a huge amount of executables on the machine.
As well as logs, TFTP information etc.

You can try opening up task manager but it will be useless...

So being I'm already getting more and more familiar with this pest, here
is what it does:

/
Public Sub AVkiller()
On Error Resume Next
'prefix
Dim AVmonz As Variant'
varz:
Dim Cur As String
'---||---
Dim i
'---||---
AVmonz = Array("", "AVP Monitor", _
   "AntiVir", _
   "Vshwin", _
   "F-STOPW", _
   "F-Secure", _
   "vettray", _
   "InoculateIT", _
   "Norman Virus Control", _
   "navpw32", _
   "Norton AntiVirus", _
   "Iomon98", _
   "AVG", _
   "NOD32", _
   "Dr.Web", _
   "Amon", _
   "Trend PC-cillin", _
   "File Monitor", _
   "Registry Monitor", _
   "Registry Editor", _
   "Task Manager")
'Declaration of AV shitz
For i = 1 To 20
'kill'em all...
 Cur = AVmonz(i)
'convert to string
 Call TerminateTask(Cur)
'terminate task ;)
Next i
End Sub

/

Nifty huh? The virus installs itself in the registry under odd names
associated with Microsoft for example, so far I've seen it installed in a
Run, Run Once folder called Windows Security, Windows Update, etc. There
is no removal tool for this and being it renders many virus software
useless, you can either have a user reinstall Windows, or you can search
the machine for instances of things created on the same date as the
serv32.exe program, or one of the other ones it installs.

Now... The worm seems to perhaps download 4 other programs I've always
seen running in conjuction with it. wupd.exe which masquerades as "Windows
Update" ftpd.exe which opens up an ftp server on the infected machine and
goes around re-downloaded various other viruses and worms on the infected
machine, and one which I believe tries to infect other machines perhaps
a-la Blaster worm.

Another program opens seems to randomly name viruses and worms once
downloaded so for example, wupd.exe will probably turn into something like
A032424.exe the next time around, and so on and so forth.

So far I've seen students where I am either getting this via file sharing,
one program which has been sticking out like a sore thumb is something
called ARES. It could be also spreading, again, through some of the
katrillion MS vulnerabilies and perhaps even the newly discovered "Drag
and Drop" vulnerability.

Drag and Drop vulnerabilities
http://secunia.com/advisories/12321/

So now there is also the "bling.exe" issue which is the worm that "sniffs
out passwords" (http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?date=2004-09-12), this one
opens up an irc connection to dump out data to some channel. I will
eventually (when I have some time) hexedit some of these to see what it
does and perhaps repost more information.

For a full view of what the serv32.exe does, please check out the coding
at http://www.infiltrated.net/wormcode.txt which list the original URL
(site down so it's Google cached)

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
J. Oquendo
GPG Key ID 0x51F9D78D
Fingerprint 2A48 BA18 1851 4C99

CA22 0619 DB63 F2F7 51F9 D78D
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x51F9D78D

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Re: Network Configuration Management Practices

2004-09-15 Thread John Neiberger

>Currently we do something sort of halfway: archive the actual configs
>and then run audit scripts against them, which parse the configs.
Definitely
>not ideal but it helps catch simpler errors. One of these days when I
have
>extra cycles.. (yeah, right)
>
>   Austin

There are a handful of good products on the market that do this for
you, like True Control from Rendition and Device Authority from
Alterpoint. We recently purchased Device Authority primarily for its
auditing and compliance monitoring, but also for the ease with which we
can push out mass changes to devices. It's honestly cooler than sliced
bread. The downside to these applications is the price. Ouch.
Regardless, now that I have Device Authority, I sure as heck would not
give it back!

John
--


Re: Network Configuration Management Practices

2004-09-15 Thread Austin Schutz

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 12:27:20AM -0700, Alexei Roudnev wrote:
> 
> One more thing. We tried to review _proposed changes_ and _changed applied_.
> Practice showed, that it is impossible to see errors in proposed updates,
> even if 3 - 4 engineers review it (not design flaws, but syntac and
> semantics errors), so we did not got many use from pre-change reviews
> (except design ones). But we got extremely high profit from post-change
> reviews (verifying, what really changed on the router / firewall after
> maintanance window) - it allows to see some unwanted changes and avoid few
> possible service disruptions.
> 

This doesn't seem to scale too well. When you have frequent changes
(i.e. many access devices) the diff load becomes unmanageably large.
My ideal would be to have a network monitoring tool which compares the
actual network against a configured baseline. The presumption would be that
if the network matches what have been set forth as engineering rules, I don't
really care what the specific settings are.
Currently we do something sort of halfway: archive the actual configs
and then run audit scripts against them, which parse the configs. Definitely
not ideal but it helps catch simpler errors. One of these days when I have
extra cycles.. (yeah, right)

Austin


Re: Open-Source Network Management Tools

2004-09-15 Thread Steve Francis
Claydon, Tom wrote:
I'm looking for open-source alternatives for network management, such as
Nagios or Big Brother. We are currently using WhatsUp Gold, and would
like to move to something more flexible (and not running on a Windows
platform). Something that has email/paging capabilities, and can process
SNMP traps would be a plus for us as well.
Recommendations?
Thanks.
 

I'll add remstats (http://remstats.sourceforge.net/release/)
The big strength of it I found over other systems is it integrates 
monitoring and alerting (a la nagios) with visual trending, which makes 
it much easier to see what your alerts should be set at and if you need 
to start worrying.

There's kind of been parallel development - the sourceforge version has 
some new features, another train I have has a lot of performance 
enhancements to allow different periods of polling; multiple snmp 
collectors to distribute load; parallized collections, etc.


Re: Excessive Internet Traffic

2004-09-15 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox

My 445 traffic is pretty normal (lots of it, not unusual tho)

You're being DoS'd? Identify the dst and the ingress points, if you can work out 
the srces, if not speak to your upstreams for assistance in identifying and 
stopping the traffic.

Steve

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Robert Scott wrote:

> 
> The University of Central Florida has seen a sudden jump in tcp 445
> denies. It began a little after 9:00 AM EDST. New Worm?
> 
> I am denying about 32 thousand packets per second. IP Cache flow show
> them well spread over a wide range of addresses, targeted at what
> apeears to be a random sample of my class B. The ACL on our border
> router is taking 21 million denies every 10 minutes. 
> 
> 60 deny tcp any any eq 445 (346740094 matches)
> 
> The packets are small, since I am seeing a large nuber of packets, but
> the bit count is low.
>   30 second input rate 72679000 bits/sec, 41033 packets/sec
>   30 second output rate 29208000 bits/sec, 7687 packets/sec
>  Input bits per second are a little above normal, but the packet count
> would normally be under 1 not 41000.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> TIA
> 
> AppleBees says "No Anheuser"
> Robert Scott says "NO APPLEBEES!"
> Join The Boycott!
> 
> Robert D. Scott
> Associate Director
> Computer Services and Telecommunications
> Network Operations
> University of Central Florida
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CSB-310
> 407-823-0662  Voice
> 407-823-5476  FAX
> 345-0662  Sun-Com
> 877-549-5390 Pager
> 
> 



RE: Open-Source Network Management Tools

2004-09-15 Thread Michael Smith

 
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> I'm looking for open-source alternatives for network management,
> such as Nagios or Big Brother. We are currently using WhatsUp Gold,
> and would like to move to something more flexible (and not running
> on a Windows platform). Something that has email/paging
> capabilities, and can process SNMP traps would be a plus for us as
> well.
> > 
> Recommendations?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 

I'd like to expand the question by asking, what Open-Source
applications do people use for SNMP Trap collecting and alarming? 
We're very happy with Nagios for polling, but we have a lot of
optical components that send information via Traps that then needs to
be culled, trimmed and analyzed.

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-15 Thread Arnold Nipper

Daniel,

On 15.09.2004 13:50 Daniel Karrenberg wrote:

> Roland, 
> 
> you are almost right.
> 
>>From http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-49/eof-info.html :
> 
> "The European Operators Forum (EOF) is a forum where new
> technologydevelopments of interest to Internet Protocol network
> operators arepresented and discussed.  The EOF has no formal charter or
> chair.  The agenda is co-ordinated by a program committee led by Rob
> Blokzijl, RIPE Chair. 
> 

this is not really consistent with
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eof/index.html, It would also be more
transparent if someone know of which members the program committee
consist of.

But this are pennies. I would much appreciate if EOF gets more input
from "RIPE" operators.

Have a successful RIPE 49 in Manchester,



Arnold



Excessive Internet Traffic

2004-09-15 Thread Robert Scott

The University of Central Florida has seen a sudden jump in tcp 445
denies. It began a little after 9:00 AM EDST. New Worm?

I am denying about 32 thousand packets per second. IP Cache flow show
them well spread over a wide range of addresses, targeted at what
apeears to be a random sample of my class B. The ACL on our border
router is taking 21 million denies every 10 minutes. 

60 deny tcp any any eq 445 (346740094 matches)

The packets are small, since I am seeing a large nuber of packets, but
the bit count is low.
  30 second input rate 72679000 bits/sec, 41033 packets/sec
  30 second output rate 29208000 bits/sec, 7687 packets/sec
 Input bits per second are a little above normal, but the packet count
would normally be under 1 not 41000.

Ideas?

TIA

AppleBees says "No Anheuser"
Robert Scott says "NO APPLEBEES!"
Join The Boycott!

Robert D. Scott
Associate Director
Computer Services and Telecommunications
Network Operations
University of Central Florida
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CSB-310
407-823-0662  Voice
407-823-5476  FAX
345-0662  Sun-Com
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Re: Open-Source Network Management Tools

2004-09-15 Thread Wes Hardaker

> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:02:33 +0930, Mark Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

Yet one more new tool "Net-Policy" undergoing a lot of development.
It's designed to allow for any protocol to be used for data, but is
currently concentrating on SNMP (for collection, distribution and
events).  It's a role/policy based system which means easier
conceptual management.  Highly extensible.  Creating new network
connection diagrams to add into the system, eg, takes very little perl
coding.  Screen shots available at http://net-policy.sf.net/ .

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 and much more difficult to find."  -- Terry Pratchett


RE: Email Complexes

2004-09-15 Thread Susan Harris

Folks, it's (long past) time to end this thread.  It's operationally of
interest to very few of us.


Re: *blocking access to rebel web sites

2004-09-15 Thread J. Oquendo


>> Russian Internet providers block access to Chechen rebel web site

Please excuse my off-topic response.

Earlier this year I was researching terror related websites and snagged
the top 25 (according to Alexa, and articles mentioning these sites)
"Jihad(iot)" related "terror" sites and found that of the 25 sites, 22
were running in my own backyard, America. Rather than make this already
off topic post longer here is the link to the article for anyone who would
like to read it. Basically, whois, nslookup information for the top sites.
I didn't bother posting the other 3 since they had little relevance to
someone else's "War on Terror"

http://www.politrix.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1141

As for Kavkaz... Same *foo* different day. ISP's can block all they'd
like to, but it does little since my government tells me the terrorists
now use crypto, proxies, and weapons of mass destruction. So most of these
cmopilliterates are now hijacking mars rovers to read my GMail and plot,
just what I needed.

whois kavkaz.org
Domain Name: KAVKAZ.ORG
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL:
Name Server: ATRIVO.BASSINTER.COM
Name Server: ATRIVO2.BASSINTER.COM
Updated Date: 23-feb-2002
Registrant:
Udug, Movladi (KAVKAZ14-DOM)
10 Bird Lane
Orlando, FL 32860
US
Domain Name: KAVKAZ.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Udug, Movladi (ZWWPQJQEGI) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Udug,Movladi
10 Bird Lane
Orlando, FL 32860
US
+1-9745572730 123 123 1234


# whois -a 66.28.38.232

OrgName: Cogent Communications
OrgID: COGC
NetRange: 66.28.0.0 - 66.28.255.255
CIDR: 66.28.0.0/16
NetName: COGENT-NB-
TechHandle: ZC108-ARIN
TechName: Cogent Communications
TechPhone: +1-877-875-4311
TechEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
J. Oquendo
GPG Key ID 0x51F9D78D
Fingerprint 2A48 BA18 1851 4C99

CA22 0619 DB63 F2F7 51F9 D78D
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x51F9D78D

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believe that men high in this government are concerting
to deliver us to disaster?" Joseph McCarthy "America's
Retreat from Victory"


Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-15 Thread Daniel Karrenberg

On 14.09 13:23, Roland Perry wrote:
> 
> > ...
> >more to the point, who decided meeting content?  essentially daniel
> >karrenberg does.
> 
> I thought it was a committee of the Workgroup chairs (apart perhaps from 
> the first day).


Roland, 

you are almost right.

>From http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-49/eof-info.html :

"The European Operators Forum (EOF) is a forum where new
technologydevelopments of interest to Internet Protocol network
operators arepresented and discussed.  The EOF has no formal charter or
chair.  The agenda is co-ordinated by a program committee led by Rob
Blokzijl, RIPE Chair. 

Participation is open to all interested parties.  The EOF is normally a
day and a half session that takes place prior to scheduled RIPE Working
Group sessions.  The Program Committee welcomes input for possible
topics and can be reached at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. ... "

All sugestions for content go to the eof-coord list.  Anyone willing to
contribute to putting together the EOF programme is welcome to join this
list.  It is an extremely informal group.  Most, if not all, RIPE WG
chairpeople are on the list; but it is not limited to them.  The RIPE NCC
currently supports me to act as a secretary and to look after the
meeting/speaker logistics.  

Daniel


Russian ISPs block access to Chechen rebel web site

2004-09-15 Thread Sean Donelan

BBC Mon FS1 FsuPol kt/mjm/skh
Source: Ekho Moskvy radio, Moscow, in Russian 0800 gmt 14 Sep 04

Russian Internet providers block access to Chechen rebel web site

It seems that Moscow has managed to close down a Chechen separatist web
site. Since this morning access to the Kavkaz-Tsentr web site and the
Chechenpress page has been blocked.
Yesterday the Russian Foreign Ministry demanded that Lithuania stop
Kavkaz-Tsentr operating. The fact is that the separatists' server is
located in the private flat of a Lithuanian MP. The Lithuanian ambassador
to Russia was summoned to the Foreign Ministry yesterday.
Meanwhile, Lithuanian official structures have not yet asked the service
provider for Kavkaz-Tsentr to shut down the site. Ekho Moskvy was informed
of this by the head of the Elneta company [Internet service provider],
Rimantas Pasys.
Pasys noted that at present the Kavkaz-Tsentr web site is working. It
seems that access to the site is being prevented by service providers
based in Russia.


Re: Email Complexes

2004-09-15 Thread joe

Hi Joe,

I was wondering when this question was going to be posted, so alas.
I was having an issue where email (at my company) was on occassion,
for various reasons, slow (i.e. messages were getting stuck either outbound
or inbound). Of course by the time this was noticed the user tickets started
flying in. So what I ended up doing was writting some scripts (for
linux/unix)
to do a test that provides a nice little webpage showing typical transaction
times for email on a roundtrip basis. One of the biggest problems was that
the internal email servers are MSExchange, so theres was little control I
had
over that portion, other than to show how long an email took to leave
my Linux system, then get received back to that system.

Works well if your NOC/Helpdesk doesn't mind looking at a webpage on
a periodic basis, and I suppose one could modify it to do automated
paging.

Contact me off list if interested, I don't wish to get to OT here.

Regards
-Joe Blanchard


- Original Message -
From: "Joe Shen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hosman, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: Email Complexes


>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any free tools or methods to measure SMTP
> performance and email service quality between two
> email server ?
>
> Is there any implementation of message track?
>
> thanks
>
> Joe
>
> http://sg.mobile.yahoo.com



Re: Network Configuration Management Practices

2004-09-15 Thread Joe Shen

There has been some public available software for
backing up Cisco router configuration. 

The backup is  not in CVS but in plain file. 

Joe


 --- Alexei Roudnev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
> 
> Hmm, there are many approaches, starting with _what
> is primary_ (in Moscow's
> ISP files was primary, in enterprise here configs
> are primary).
> 
> In my case, I use some hard rules:
> - no matter what is primary, configurations should
> be stored into CVS or
> simular system, and made available (for network
> engineers) on the internal
> web (with restricted access);
> - system should collect all changes automatically
> (or update configs from
> files automatically), make diffs and send change
> reports.
> - In any case, I must be able to see real
> configuration and see all changes,
> applying for last few weeks, without telnetting to
> the box.
> 
> Without such things, I am blind ( I feel myself
> blind, when I come to the
> new network, and they have not such things in their
> system, making changes
> _on live servers_ and making 'telnet' to evaluate
> configuration).
> 
> Few tools (opensource and commercial) allows to
> automate this job.
> 
> One more thing. We tried to review _proposed
> changes_ and _changed applied_.
> Practice showed, that it is impossible to see errors
> in proposed updates,
> even if 3 - 4 engineers review it (not design flaws,
> but syntac and
> semantics errors), so we did not got many use from
> pre-change reviews
> (except design ones). But we got extremely high
> profit from post-change
> reviews (verifying, what really changed on the
> router / firewall after
> maintanance window) - it allows to see some unwanted
> changes and avoid few
> possible service disruptions.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Scott Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Carl W.Kalbfleisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Network Configuration Management
> Practices
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Carl W.Kalbfleisch wrote:
> >
> > : I am doing some independent research on Network
> Configuration
> > : Management Practices. I am trying to get
> information from service
> > : providers and enterprises on how they handle
> this function. I have the
> > : following specific questions:
> > :
> > : 1) What configuration issues most affect the
> performance and
> > : reliability of your network?
> >
> >
> > Fingers...  >;-)
> >
> > scott
> >
> 
>  

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RE: Email Complexes

2004-09-15 Thread Joe Shen

Hi,

Is there any free tools or methods to measure SMTP
performance and email service quality between two
email server ? 

Is there any implementation of message track?

thanks

Joe

 --- "Hosman, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:  
> 
> I've gotten a few emails asking why we are doing
> this.
> 
> We are doing this in order to provider better
> service to our Customers.
> Charter need's pop3 
> access at the following companies so that we can
> monitor track and monitor 
> SMTP performance between our network and yours.
> 
> AOL
> Yahoo
> Gmail
> MSN/Hotmail
> Cox
> Comcast
> Adelphia
> Earthlink
> Verizon
> 


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Methodology for BGP policy development

2004-09-15 Thread Pete Kruckenberg

I'm looking for some good material on the methodology (best 
practices) of moderately-complex BGP policy development.

I've found no shortage of the tools (prefix lists, community 
list filters, route maps, etc) for *implementation* of BGP 
policy. Including plenty of router configuration examples.

I'm looking for help with the steps before the router
configuration.

What is a good methodology to go from a set of (~30-50)  
narrative descriptions ("Propagate prefixes received from
Customer Type X only to Peers Type Y") into a optimal,
comprehensive set of community definitions,
prefix/community/ASpath filters, route maps, peer templates,
policy statements, etc?

What methodology works for you? Are there
presentations/papers/books/discussion threads that cover
this aspect of routing policy development that you would
recommend?

Thanks for your help.
Pete.




Re: Email Complexes

2004-09-15 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist

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On 2004-09-15, at 00.48, Joe Abley wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2004, at 17:39, Hosman, Ross wrote:
>
>> Ensuring that email flows freely between our mail complex and other 
>> top mail
>> provider complexes is a support issue correct. Actually setting up the
>> system to monitor and to ensure the support people get the data they 
>> need is
>> operations/engineering.
>
> If getting mail from your mail complex is important to remote mail 
> complex A then talk to remote mail complex A and arrange something. If 
> remote mail complex A doesn't care, or doesn't return your mail, then 
> maybe mail complex A doesn't think your mail complex is worth worrying 
> about (or perhaps you are sufficiently notable that it's worth 
> blocking mail from you without generating bounce complexes).
>
> Unless your mail complex is sufficiently big that remote mail complex 
> A's customers are going to care (i.e. generate support complex load 
> above the noise floor) I wouldn't hold my breath complex waiting for 
> anybody to expend effort to help you with any of this for free.
>
> There isn't really any solution complex you're going to magically find 
> from the NANOG list complex beyond the suggestion complex that has 
> already been put forward (that of purchasing standard retail pop3 
> mailbox complexes from the other provider complexes you're interested 
> in, and running text complexes between them and your mail complex.)

This is just way to complex for me.

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Re: Open-Source Network Management Tools

2004-09-15 Thread Mark Newton

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 12:16:15AM -0700, Alexei Roudnev wrote:

 > In reality, to get best results, use some combination of few such systems.
 > All have string sides and weak sides.
 > (For example, snmpstat shows excellent network view, allowing to see exactly
 > what is going on, and shows good unlimited traffic patterns, such as average
 > packet size etc, have embedded tickets and reports,  but have hardcoded set
 > of parameters so if you want something out of it's scope, it's not enough.
 > Others, such as nagual or cricket, allows to monitor everything but can not
 > show system overview and do not have usage reports. )

Add in Nodemap (http://nodemap.internode.on.net) as a way of gluing 
things together too.  Provides an overview (configurable level of
detail) and can be configured with hyperlinks to other places
(MRTG/Cricket graphs, site descriptions, etc)

  - mark

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Re: Network Configuration Management Practices

2004-09-15 Thread Alexei Roudnev

Hmm, there are many approaches, starting with _what is primary_ (in Moscow's
ISP files was primary, in enterprise here configs are primary).

In my case, I use some hard rules:
- no matter what is primary, configurations should be stored into CVS or
simular system, and made available (for network engineers) on the internal
web (with restricted access);
- system should collect all changes automatically (or update configs from
files automatically), make diffs and send change reports.
- In any case, I must be able to see real configuration and see all changes,
applying for last few weeks, without telnetting to the box.

Without such things, I am blind ( I feel myself blind, when I come to the
new network, and they have not such things in their system, making changes
_on live servers_ and making 'telnet' to evaluate configuration).

Few tools (opensource and commercial) allows to automate this job.

One more thing. We tried to review _proposed changes_ and _changed applied_.
Practice showed, that it is impossible to see errors in proposed updates,
even if 3 - 4 engineers review it (not design flaws, but syntac and
semantics errors), so we did not got many use from pre-change reviews
(except design ones). But we got extremely high profit from post-change
reviews (verifying, what really changed on the router / firewall after
maintanance window) - it allows to see some unwanted changes and avoid few
possible service disruptions.


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Carl W.Kalbfleisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Network Configuration Management Practices


>
>
>
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Carl W.Kalbfleisch wrote:
>
> : I am doing some independent research on Network Configuration
> : Management Practices. I am trying to get information from service
> : providers and enterprises on how they handle this function. I have the
> : following specific questions:
> :
> : 1) What configuration issues most affect the performance and
> : reliability of your network?
>
>
> Fingers...  >;-)
>
> scott
>



Re: Open-Source Network Management Tools

2004-09-15 Thread Alexei Roudnev

In reality, to get best results, use some combination of few such systems.
All have string sides and weak sides.
(For example, snmpstat shows excellent network view, allowing to see exactly
what is going on, and shows good unlimited traffic patterns, such as average
packet size etc, have embedded tickets and reports,  but have hardcoded set
of parameters so if you want something out of it's scope, it's not enough.
Others, such as nagual or cricket, allows to monitor everything but can not
show
system overview and do not have usage reports. )




- Original Message - 
From: "Lucas Iglesias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Claydon, Tom'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Open-Source Network Management Tools


>
> We have been using JFFNMS (http://www.jffnms.org) for the last 2 years and
> works just great.
> You can monitor almost anything you'd like to via SNMP (we currently use
it
> to graph Traffic, Drops, Input Errors, RTT, Packet Loss, CPU, Memory,
> Temperature, TCP Connections, BGP, etc). And has email/paging
capabilities.
>
> Try it out and let me know.
>
> Luckas.-
>
> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de
> Claydon, Tom
> Enviado el: Martes, 14 de Septiembre de 2004 04:48 p.m.
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto: Open-Source Network Management Tools
>
>
>
> I'm looking for open-source alternatives for network management, such as
> Nagios or Big Brother. We are currently using WhatsUp Gold, and would
> like to move to something more flexible (and not running on a Windows
> platform). Something that has email/paging capabilities, and can process
> SNMP traps would be a plus for us as well.
>
> Recommendations?
>
> Thanks.



Re: Open-Source Network Management Tools

2004-09-15 Thread Alexei Roudnev

I use this (designed in Relcom 5 years ago, and re-newed hhere this year):

  http://snmpstat.sf.net

(SNMP network monitoring, + Cisco configuration repository with automated
change control, + ProBIND2, + many things which was not included, such as
mhonacr archiving for all alerts / warnings / audits / reports, mnogosearch
for document seaerch etc).

In addition, we use 'cricket' for tiny router monitoring.


- Original Message - 
From: "John Kinsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Claydon, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Open-Source Network Management Tools


>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 02:47:45PM -0500, Claydon, Tom wrote:
> > I'm looking for open-source alternatives for network management, such as
> > Nagios or Big Brother. We are currently using WhatsUp Gold, and would
> > like to move to something more flexible (and not running on a Windows
> > platform). Something that has email/paging capabilities, and can process
> > SNMP traps would be a plus for us as well.
>
> Christ, WhatsUp Gold...that's giving me flashbacks!
> Have you checked out...
> http://www.nagios.org
> http://www.bb4.org ?
> :)
>
> I suspect what you might be looking for is something like OpenNMS,
> http://www.opennms.org
>
> There's a few other packages out there, but IMHO they all suck in one
> way or another.
>
> John