Re: dns - golog

2006-10-21 Thread Martin Hannigan 



Simon Waters wrote:




On Friday 20 Oct 2006 00:35, you wrote:


[ SNIP ]




I think one problem is that IANA doesn't have a "brand name", so when you buy



IANA has nothing to do with routing policy and neither does ICANN. ICANN
has no authority through any contract vehicle inside any network. Do you
have some information contrary to that?


an Internet connection you aren't told you are getting an IANA DNS,



There's no such a thing as IANA DNS. The DoC controls the root DNS
zone file. IANA distributes and does change management.



 that is
assumed. The interesting question is whether that is sustainable if a lot of
ISPs provide a non-IANA DNS service. There may be an argument for saying that
"non IANA DNS" services can't be described as "Internet services", but that
is an issue for ICANNs lawyers.



No, actually, it's not.



> 
http://www.circleid.com/posts/techies_wanna_do_policy/


Karl was so wrong on the F root-server issue. Paul asserted no new 
right, most


ISC asserted that they own IP address space and can control the
routability, contrary to standard Internet and operator policy.
They can't, and I doubt anyone is very worried about a lawsuit
from ISC. Legal geniuses they are not.


-M<






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Re: In Memoriam: Abha Ahuja

2006-10-21 Thread Steve Rubin 


> So- I'd like to put out a call for pictures

http://gallery.tch.org/main.php?g2_itemId=1951

Re: In Memoriam: Abha Ahuja

2006-10-21 Thread Steven G. Huter 



So- I'd like to put out a call for pictures


http://nsrc.org/AFRICA/AFNOG-2001/workshop/BGP.jpg

steve

RE: In Memoriam: Abha Ahuja

2006-10-21 Thread Lasher, Donn 


On 10/21/06, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Five years ago today. I miss her. She was a great friend.



You know, it's just my 2cents worth, but with all the other OT things
that fly around the NANOG list, this topic might not be a bad one to
spend a few email messages on, given her heavy involvement with quite a
few of the topics and people on this list.

I had the rare honor of working with Abha during my time at InterNAP
(approximately 1/2000 - 1/2001). She was a great mentor, not afraid to
speak up and call something "just stupid" no matter who else was in the
room. Her office door seemed always open, and she made time to explain
concepts, no matter how basic they may have been to her. I thought I
knew BGP before I started there (doesn't everybody?), and she made me
realize how little I really knew. She spoke the "voodoo" of BGP like a
native tongue.

Her office was decorated with various pop-icon posters, and I never
really understood whether they were actually people she liked, or if
they were up as laughing points.. You'd ask her about them, and she'd
wrinkle her nose, like "ew" but yet they stayed up. She was a great
friend to a lot of us at InterNAP at that time, and was missed when she
left... And has been missed since.

Re: In Memoriam: Abha Ahuja

2006-10-21 Thread kobi hsu 
On 10/21/06, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Five years ago today. I miss her. She was a great friend. http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/2006/10/in-memoriam-abha-ahuja.html

I've not wanted to change the memorial page I made, because... well, I can'treally articulate why. But over the years many of the galleries and pictures Ilinked to have gone offline, or moved, or just aren't available.
So- I'd like to put out a call for pictures, memorial pages, links. I have a listof some but I expect there are several I don't know about. If you havepictures but aren't able to host them, just let me know and I'd be happy to
provide space for them. Thanks._k

Re: CO fire St. Johns Newfoundland

2006-10-21 Thread Jeff Shultz 


Fergie wrote:

Bet it wasn't bizarre as the the fire tonight at Ft. Meade:

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15354940/

- ferg


Hmmm. If it's the building I'm thinking of, it's in the oldest part of 
the base and well separated from the NSA compound.

Re: In Memoriam: Abha Ahuja

2006-10-21 Thread Jake Khuon 

### On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:32:39 GMT, "Fergie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
### casually decided to expound upon [EMAIL PROTECTED] the following thoughts
### about "In Memoriam: Abha Ahuja":

F> Five years ago today. I miss her. She was a great friend.
F> 
F>  http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/2006/10/in-memoriam-abha-ahuja.html

Yes.  She certainly was.

http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/abha/


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RE: CO fire St. Johns Newfoundland

2006-10-21 Thread Frank Bulk 

Apparently it was a DC power cable:
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=16fff79a-1848-41f9-
a635-ac645e423308&k=83532
Too much current?

Frank 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
Armstrong
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:53 AM
To: Sean Donelan
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: CO fire St. Johns Newfoundland


I bet it was set by the codfather.

:-)



Sean Donelan wrote:

>
>
> Its been a while since the last big telephone central office fire.
>
> 100,000+ lines are out of service in St. John's Newfoundland (Canada, 
> the other part of North America).

Re: Lucent GBE (4 x VC4) clues needed

2006-10-21 Thread Saku Ytti 

On (2007-09-21 16:12 +0300), Saku Ytti wrote:

> (oops technical question in nanog, wearing my asbestos suit)
> 
> Consider this topology
> 
> GSR - 3750 --(GE over 4xVC4) - NSE100 - NSE100 --(GE over 4xVC4) -- 3550 - GSR

This should have been Nortel GBE, not Lucent my bad.

Anyhow, just wanted for sake of archive report that it's the Nortel
4xVC4 that corrupts packets, it mostly seems to corrupt source MAC
and always same bits, that is, any L2 will learn mostly same MAC with
few different vendor codes, we can also see this in wireshark on
fibresplitter. (It's not limited strictly to source MAC, but it's
not random by any means)
It's not broken hardware (unless by design), as it can be seen in both of
the production legs and we've recreated the same problem in lab.
Most likely software issue in Nortel.

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Re: CO fire St. Johns Newfoundland

2006-10-21 Thread Fergie 

Bet it wasn't bizarre as the the fire tonight at Ft. Meade:

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15354940/

- ferg


-- Dan Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I bet it was set by the codfather.

:-)



Sean Donelan wrote:

>
>
> Its been a while since the last big telephone central office fire.
>
> 100,000+ lines are out of service in St. John's Newfoundland (Canada, 
> the other part of North America).


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Re: CO fire St. Johns Newfoundland

2006-10-21 Thread Dan Armstrong 


I bet it was set by the codfather.

:-)



Sean Donelan wrote:




Its been a while since the last big telephone central office fire.

100,000+ lines are out of service in St. John's Newfoundland (Canada, 
the other part of North America).