Re: large organization nameservers sending icmp packets to dns servers.

2007-08-09 Thread Doug Barton


On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Drew Weaver wrote:

   Is it a fairly normal practice for large companies such as Yahoo! 
And Mozilla to send icmp/ping packets to DNS servers? If so, why? And a 
related question would be from a service provider standpoint is there 
any reason to deny ICMP/PING packets to name servers within your 
organization?


If someone else mentioned this I didn't see it, so I think it's worthwhile 
to point out that in the case of Yahoo! at least the pinging isn't done by 
nsX.yahoo.com, but rather it's done by Akamai after you get to the point 
in the chain where the "real" answer is going to come from one of their 
servers.


Someone else already did point out that in spite of the existence of 
outliers, the shape of the bell-shaped curve remains the same, and if this 
method didn't actually work then it wouldn't be in such widespread use.


hth,

Doug

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If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough


Re: IPv6 PI block is announced - update your filters 2620:0000::/23

2006-09-15 Thread Doug Barton

Gert Doering wrote:

> Does the policy really permit /40.../47 assignments?

http://www.arin.net/registration/guidelines/ipv6_assignment.html#step2

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Re: managing mycompany.{all iso TLD + icann TLD) ?

2006-07-24 Thread Doug Barton

Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

> Someone's possesion of a domain name contining a string you have a
> trademark on *in one specific line of business* *does not constitute an
> infringement of your trademark*.
> 
> Unless they *use it* *in conjunction with a product or service name*
> *in the appropriate line of business* *in a jurisdiction where you hold
> trademark rights*, they're not infringing you, and registering the
> string in 435 TLD's just to make sure they can't is the worst kind of
> stupid.

If I can borrow from Randy, I encourage my competitors (and more importantly
the competitors of my clients) to operate in the manner you describe.

Doug

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If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough


Re: managing mycompany.{all iso TLD + icann TLD) ?

2006-07-24 Thread Doug Barton

David Ulevitch wrote:
> 
> 
> On Jul 24, 2006, at 6:18 AM, Jim Mercer wrote:
> 
>> the company i'm working for has a growing list of domains for the company
>> and its trademarks.
>>
>> are there resellers out there that have agreements with _most_ TLD
>> registries?
>>
>> i realize that i won't likely find a single reseller for all the
>> TLD's, but
>> i'd like to switch from using 10 baskets to 2 or three.
> 
> There are companies that specialize in this:
> http://www.markmonitor.com/

I have worked with the folks at MarkMonitor, and their acquisition
alldomains, and know a few of them personally. If you're looking for the
kind of "soup to nuts" domain management program that the OP described, I
would recommend them highly.

hth,

Doug

-- 

If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough


Re: MEDIA: ICANN rejects .xxx domain

2006-05-12 Thread Doug Barton

Fred Baker wrote:

> Now, as to ccTLDs vs gTLDs, if anyone wants to eliminate one or the
> other they get my vote. 

The political reality is that ccTLDs will never go away. The business
reality is that gTLDs (at least the majority of the ones we have now) will
never go away. So, can we move on to something *slightly* less pointless,
like moving .gov and .mil under .us where they belong? :)

Doug

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If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough


Re: Equal access to content

2005-11-02 Thread Doug Barton

Sean Donelan wrote:
> Should content suppliers be required to provide equal access to all
> networks?  Or can content suppliers enter into exclusive contracts?

SBC and Yahoo! have already answered this question (for example).

I also think that most people on this list will remember the early days of
broadband suppliers like RoadRunner who tried to build a "we are mostly
local content, plus some Internet access" model which the customers hated,
and they (for the most part) eventually abandoned altogether. Even AOL was
forced by market pressure to provide real Internet to its customers.

Doug .oO(Glad I don't own any SBC stock ...)

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If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough


Re: IANA Blackhole Servers Ill?

2005-10-21 Thread Doug Barton

Crist Clark wrote:
> 
> We got some very weird compaints about applications "hanging." Tracked
> it down to reverse lookups timing out. Reverse lookups to RFC1918 space.
> Looks like the IANA blackhole servers for RFC1918 are not well?

>From my location (Comcast cable modem in LA) I can see the IANA servers, and
they are answering queries.

> (Of course, the fix is to claim authority for the RFC1918 space you are
> using in your own DNS servers.)

It's arguably a good idea for resolving name servers to be authoritative for
all the 1918 space, as well as the zones recommended in RFC 1912
(ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1912.txt). You can set up an empty
zone file (just SOA and NS), and do something like this:

zone "10.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "16.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "17.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "18.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "19.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "20.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "21.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "22.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "23.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "24.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "25.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "26.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "27.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "28.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "29.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "30.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "31.172.in-addr.arpa"  { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };
zone "168.192.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "master/empty.db"; };

Any more specific zones that you add for space that you're actually using
will be effective for those blocks instead of the more generic definitions
(at least in modern versions of BIND).

hth,

Doug


New IANA IPv6 allocation for RIPE NCC (2A01:0000::/23)

2005-07-14 Thread Doug Barton

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Greetings,

This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv6 /23 block to RIPE NCC:

2A01:::/23RIPE NCC

For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments>

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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority

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New IANA IPv6 allocation for APNIC (2400:2000::/19)

2005-07-08 Thread Doug Barton


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Greetings,

This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv6 /19 block to APNIC:

~  2400:2000::/19APNIC

For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments>

- --
Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority

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New IANA IPv4 allocation for RIPE NCC (89/8, 90/8, 91/8)

2005-06-30 Thread Doug Barton

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Greetings,

This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
three (3) IPv4 /8 blocks to RIPE NCC:

89/8
90/8
91/8

For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:

<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>

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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv4 allocations to ARIN (74/8, 75/8, 76/8) and LACNIC (189/8, 190/8)

2005-06-17 Thread Doug Barton

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Greetings,

This is to inform you that on 17 June 2005 the IANA has
allocated the following two (2) IPv4 /8 blocks to LACNIC:

189/8, 190/8

and three (3) IPv4 /8 blocks to ARIN:

74/8, 75/8, 76/8

For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>

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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New block of AS Numbers to APNIC (37888-38911)

2005-06-09 Thread Doug Barton

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Greetings,

This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
block of AS Numbers to APNIC:

37888-38911

For a full list of IANA AS Number allocations please see
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers>

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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 allocation for APNIC (2400::/19)

2005-05-23 Thread Doug Barton


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Greetings,

This is to inform you that on 20 May 2005 the IANA allocated the following
one (1) IPv6 /19 block to APNIC:

~   2400:::/19   APNIC

For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments>

- --
Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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Re: Paul Wilson and Geoff Huston of APNIC on IP address allocation ITU v/s ICANN

2005-04-28 Thread Doug Barton
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
So, like ICANN, governements and big corporations are represented at
the ITU. Like ICANN, ordinary users are excluded.
I think groups like the Non-Commercial Users Constituency 
(http://gnso.icann.org/non-commercial/) and the At Large Advisory Committee 
(http://alac.icann.org/) would disagree with that perspective. :)

Doug
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New IPv6 allocations from IANA to RIPE NCC (2a00::/21) and ARIN (2600::/22, 2604::/22, 2608::/22, 260c::/22)

2005-04-19 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following one (1)
IPv6 /21 block to RIPE NCC:
2A00:::/21RIPE NCC
And, the IANA has allocated the following four (4)
IPv6 /22 blocks to ARIN:
2600:::/22ARIN
2604:::/22ARIN
2608:::/22ARIN
260C:::/22ARIN
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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Re: Auerbach Accuses ICANN Board of Dereliction of Duty on IP Allocation

2005-04-13 Thread Doug Barton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whether Karl is in fact right or a raving net.loon, there is indeed something 
very
wrong with the process if he's 25% of the input.
It may be useful to keep in mind that this is the tail end of a long process 
that we're talking about here. There was already a lot of discussion about 
this in the RIR regional forums when the policy was being developed, so far 
from being symptomatic of a problem I think that the lack of controversy 
here is a good sign that the system works.

FWIW,
Doug
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Re: New IANA IPv4 allocation to AfriNIC (41/8)

2005-04-13 Thread Doug Barton
Jeroen Massar wrote:
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 23:42 -0300, Doug Barton wrote:

This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv4 /8 block to AfriNIC:
41/8   AfriNIC

Would you (read: IANA) also be so kind and give them a nice chunk out
of:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments
There is already a /23 in 2001::/16 that has AfriNIC's name on it, you'll be 
hearing more about that tomorr... errr... later today. Allocations of larger 
IPv6 blocks are still handled on a case by case basis until there is a 
global IPv6 allocation policy developed in the manner described by the new 
ASO MOU. A new draft of such a policy will be discussed at ARIN's meeting in 
Orlando next week.

Btw, is there going to be an LACNIC-alike system for transfering
RIPE/ARIN resources to AfriNIC?
I wouldn't characterize it exactly that way, but resources that have been 
held in trust and/or managed by the other RIRs in anticipation of an African 
RIR will be transferred. The details of those arrangements are primarily 
administrative matters, and while ICANN is happy to assist if necessary, we 
have confidence that the RIRs will work this out in due time.

Regards,
Doug
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority


New block of AS Numbers to AfriNIC (36864 - 37887)

2005-04-12 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
block of AS Numbers to AfriNIC:
36864 - 37887
For a full list of IANA AS Number allocations please see
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv4 allocation to AfriNIC (41/8)

2005-04-12 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv4 /8 block to AfriNIC:
41/8   AfriNIC
For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>
This is the first allocation to AfriNIC after their recent recognition as a
Regional Internet Registry. The ICANN staff would like to offer its
congratulations to AfriNIC for this significant achievement.
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv4 allocation for ARIN (73/8)

2005-04-12 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA allocated the following
IPv4 /8 block to ARIN on 30 March 2005:
73/8ARIN
For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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Re: ICANN on the panix.com theft

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Barton

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James Galvin wrote:
> 
> 
> --On Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:58 PM -0500 David Lesher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> ICANN Blames Melbourne IT for Panix Domain Hijacking
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, the agenda for the next ICANN meeting:
> 
><http://www.icann.org/meetings/mardelplata/>
> 
> Still does not yet show that the SSAC
> 
><http://www.icann.org/committees/security/>
> 
> Will be having a public meeting on Tuesday, from 6:30-7:30pm, during
> which it will present its preliminary results and recommendations from
> its review of the incident.

That agenda has now been updated. As I understand it, the final version of
the agenda had to wait on some coordination with the local host, which has
now been completed.

FYI,

Doug

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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv4 allocation for APNIC (124/8, 125/8, 126/8)

2005-01-27 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
three (3) IPv4 /8 blocks to APNIC:
124/8   APNIC
125/8   APNIC
126/8   APNIC
For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 allocation for RIPE NCC (2003:0000::/18)

2005-01-12 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv6 /18 block to RIPE NCC:
2003:::/18 RIPE NCC   12 Jan 05
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 allocation for RIPE NCC (2001:4C00::/23)

2004-12-15 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv6 /23 block to the RIPE NCC:
 2001:4C00::/23RIPE NCC
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>
- -- 
Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 allocation for APNIC (2001:8000::/23 - 2001:AE00::/23)

2004-11-29 Thread Doug Barton
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This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
twenty-four (24) IPv6 /23s blocks to APNIC:
  2001:8000::/23  APNIC
  2001:8200::/23  APNIC
  2001:8400::/23  APNIC
  2001:8600::/23  APNIC
  2001:8800::/23  APNIC
  2001:8A00::/23  APNIC
  2001:8C00::/23  APNIC
  2001:8E00::/23  APNIC
  2001:9000::/23  APNIC
  2001:9200::/23  APNIC
  2001:9400::/23  APNIC
  2001:9600::/23  APNIC
  2001:9800::/23  APNIC
  2001:9A00::/23  APNIC
  2001:9C00::/23  APNIC
  2001:9E00::/23  APNIC
  2001:A000::/23  APNIC
  2001:A200::/23  APNIC
  2001:A400::/23  APNIC
  2001:A600::/23  APNIC
  2001:A800::/23  APNIC
  2001:AA00::/23  APNIC
  2001:AC00::/23  APNIC
  2001:AE00::/23  APNIC
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 allocation for RIPE NCC (2001:5000::/20)

2004-09-09 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
eight (8) IPv6 /23 blocks to the RIPE NCC:
  2001:5000::/23RIPE NCC
  2001:5200::/23RIPE NCC
  2001:5400::/23RIPE NCC
  2001:5600::/23RIPE NCC
  2001:5800::/23RIPE NCC
  2001:5A00::/23RIPE NCC
  2001:5C00::/23RIPE NCC
  2001:5E00::/23RIPE NCC
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 allocation for ARIN (2001:4800::/23)

2004-08-23 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv6 /23 block to ARIN:
2001:4800::/23ARIN
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>
- --
Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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Re: New IANA IPv6 allocation for RIPE NCC (2001:4600::/23)

2004-08-16 Thread Doug Barton
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Doug Barton wrote:
For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>
This would have been more useful if I had copied and pasted from the
right message, sorry:
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 allocation for RIPE NCC (2001:4600::/23)

2004-08-16 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
one (1) IPv6 /23 block to the RIPE NCC:
2001:4600::/23RIPE NCC
For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv4 allocation for ARIN (71/8, 72/8)

2004-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
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Greetings,
This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
two (2) IPv4 /8 blocks to ARIN:
071/8   Aug 04   ARIN(whois.arin.net)
072/8   Aug 04   ARIN(whois.arin.net)
For a full list of IANA IPv4 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space>
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Doug Barton
General Manager, Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
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New IANA IPv6 Allocations

2004-06-11 Thread Doug Barton
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This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
three (3) IPv6 /23 blocks to RIPE NCC, ARIN, and APNIC
respectively:
  2001:4000::/23RIPE NCC  Jun 04
  2001:4200::/23ARIN  Jun 04
  2001:4400::/23APNIC Jun 04
In addition to the above allocations, it should be noted that ARIN has
returned their most recently allocated IPv6 block, 2001:3C00::/23 to the
IANA, which has marked that block and the one immediately following it
"reserved" in anticipation of a possible future allocation to the RIPE
NCC. IANA would like to formally thank ARIN for their willingness to
operate in the best interests of the Internet community.
For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>
At their request, this message is being sent to the following
communities:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regards,
Doug
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New block of AS Numbers to ARIN

2004-05-28 Thread Doug Barton
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This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
block of AS Numbers to ARIN:
32768 - 33791
For a full list of IANA AS Number allocations please see
http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers
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New IPv6 Allocation to ARIN

2004-05-21 Thread Doug Barton

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This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following
IPv6 /23 block to ARIN:

  2001:3C00::/23 ARIN

For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments


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Re: New IANA allocations to RIPE NCC

2004-05-08 Thread Doug Barton

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On Fri, 7 May 2004, william(at)elan.net wrote:

> Also FYI - I noticed this message was actually signed (PGP) and I believe
> that may be first iana announcement message that was, thank you !!!

Certainly not the first, but I agree with the community feedback we've
received that PGP signing these messages is useful, although I also
agree with Pekka that its usefulness needs to be taken in context.

> P.S. Of course its also notable that it says "Version: PGP 8.0 - not
> licensed for commercial use".

Why is that notable?

> I kind of wonder if use by IANA or ICANN is considered commercial or
> not...  But I guess if organization is dedicated to being
> non-commercial that might be OK, but is ICANN really like that?

ICANN is organized as a not for profit corporation.

As for the question of the size of the allocation, it's not appropriate
for IANA to comment on how RIPE plans to use the block, but I will say
that they justified their request appropriately. The allocation was done
in /23 chunks because that's what the current allocation model is. The
RIRs, IANA, and the IAB are currently in discussion about what a more
rational IPv6 allocation policy should look like, given that we're
moving out of the "experimental" phase of deployment.

Last but not least, the question of why we allocate IPv4 in /8 chunks is
answered by the new global IPv4 allocation policy, agreed to by IANA and
passed in the policy forum stage by all 4 RIRs. You can find a copy at
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/iana-rir-allocation-policies.html.
It will move out of "draft" status once it's fully ratified by the ICANN
ASO, but IANA has agreed to use the policy now as a sign of good faith
in our dealings with the RIRs.

Hope this helps,

Doug

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Doug Barton
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Re: updated root hints file (fwd)

2004-02-06 Thread Doug Barton

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Randy Bush wrote:

>
> let's face it.  we should be looking at the front page
> of the <http://iana.org/> site to find root hints.  there
> we find <http://www.iana.org/domain-names.htm>, which seems
> to be missing a link to the signed root hints.
>
> iana, could you please fix that?  thanks.

Okey dokey. :)  I took this suggestion, and a few other recent
suggestions regarding the usefulness of the site and added a "most
popular links" page, which includes the root.hints stuff. I also added a
couple of new links to the home page, and deleted some less frequently
used ones.

Please take a look at http://www.iana.org/ and let me know what you
think. We have more improvements planned for the IANA site down the road
as resources become available, but in the short term I think these
changes will help.

Doug

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Doug Barton
General Manager, Internet Assigned Numbers Authority


Re: updated root hints file

2004-02-03 Thread Doug Barton

Randy Bush wrote:
> let's face it.  we should be looking at the front page
> of the <http://iana.org/> site to find root hints.  there
> we find <http://www.iana.org/domain-names.htm>, which seems
> to be missing a link to the signed root hints.
>
> iana, could you please fix that?  thanks.

Good idea. I had that in mind along with some other changes for later
this quarter, but given the amount of attention this topic is
generating, I'll try to get something up asap.

Thanks,

Doug

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General Manager, The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority


Re: example.com/net/org DNS records

2004-01-06 Thread Doug Barton

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Roger Marquis wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Doug Barton wrote:
> > >
> > There's already been a lot of discussion about why this is a good thing,
> > so I won't reiterate it all.
>
> Thanks Doug.  Are those discussions available on the net?  If so
> could you post the URL?

The discussion I'm referring to is the one that happened on the NANOG
list subsequent to your post.

Doug

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Doug Barton
General Manager, Internet Assigned Numbers Authority


Re: example.com/net/org DNS records

2004-01-05 Thread Doug Barton

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Roger Marquis wrote:

>
> Does anyone know why IANA has assigned NS and A records to the
> example.{com,org,net,...} domains?  They even put up a website
> at the IP explaining RFC 2606.
>
>  * Why did they assign NSs and a valid IP to these invalid domains?

There's already been a lot of discussion about why this is a good thing,
so I won't reiterate it all. That web site gets roughly 5 million hits a
week, so we believe that it's definitely providing a valuable
educational service to the internet community.

>  * Are they breaking the RFC by doing this?

We don't believe we are, and certainly wouldn't intentionally take any
action that violates the RFC's. The IANA is entrusted with safeguarding
a lot of internet resources, and it's a responsibility that we take very
seriously.

>  * Are they breaking anti-UCE filters by doing this? (yes)

This is an unfortunate side effect, but we believe that the user
education benefits are worth the cost.

>  * Are they harvesting URLs and referrers?

We log the "standard" stuff that just about any other web site would,
including URI's, referers, etc. As someone else pointed out,
"harvesting" the URI's won't really provide us any benefit. As for the
referers, if the community finds this problematic, I would have no
problem turning it off. We don't release the data, and currently we're
not doing anything with it other than logging it, so we wouldn't miss it
if it went away. :)

Hopefully this information is useful. If you have any further questions,
please feel free to contact me.

Doug

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Doug Barton
General Manager, Internet Assigned Numbers Authority



Re: RR/ATDN NYC

2003-11-24 Thread Doug Barton

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Will Yardley wrote:

>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 11:25:22PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote:
>
> > The only two folks that I was not able to reach were Yahoo! and SBCGlobal.
>
> I've had good success reaching Yahoo based on the contact information in
> the Arin whois; called the number on there, and got through to a real
> person fairly quickly. This was a month ago.

That's good to hear! Over the last 2.5 years I've put a lot of work into
making sure our whois stuff is up to date. I still have a few things to
punch up before I fully transition to my new position, but if you notice
something that's out of date, please feel free to let me know.

> I'm told that you can also email ynoc-request at yahoo dot com (for
> normal NOC type queries only, I assume).

Correct. They do a great job of routing requests to the proper channels,
so if it's actually something significant, don't hesitate to mail them.

Doug

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"You like pain? Try wearing a corset!"
Keira Knightley as Elizabeth Swann, in
"Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl"


ICANN Secsac message to the board

2003-09-22 Thread Doug Barton

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Recommendations Regarding VeriSign's Introduction of Wild Card Response
to Uninstantiated Domains within COM and NET

http://www.icann.org/correspondence/secsac-to-board-22sep03.htm

Several members of this community responded to my request for input on
this topic, and your very helpful suggestions were incorporated in the
final product. On behalf of the Committee, I'd like to thank you for
these contributions, and encourage you to continue sending comments and
suggestions regarding operational or security issues.

Doug Barton
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Re: Wildcards: ICANN and IAB posted their commentaries

2003-09-19 Thread Doug Barton

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://www.icann.org/announcements/advisory-19sep03.htm

Folks,

In regards to the statement above, the Security and Stability Advisory
Committee is sincerely interested in your feedback regarding this issue.
We are currently working on a report that details the impacts of
wildcards at the TLD level, and elsewhere as appropriate.

I would like to request that you restrict your comments to actual
operational issues. That will help ensure that they get due
consideration. We're most interested in issues related to things
that worked before, but don't now; and particularly interested in
non-obvious cases. Of course, if you have other points of interest on
this topic, we're all ears.

The e-mail address for your feedback is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Doug
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Re: BIND 9 (Re: ISC Patches)

2003-09-18 Thread Doug Barton

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Todd Vierling wrote:

> (Although I noticed that NetBSD's pkgsrc version of bind9 doesn't install
> the HTML docs, which are now required in order to understand named.conf
> changes.  I'll probably submit a change request for that.)

FreeBSD's does. :)

Doug (aka [EMAIL PROTECTED])

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- The Eagles, "Victim of Love"


Re: Important changes to the .org tld today.

2003-09-05 Thread Doug Barton

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I'm speaking officially only for myself here, although my opinion is
informed by the fire drill at work today. :)

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Rodney Joffe wrote:

> During the root zone (.) update later today, specifically with root
> zone serial number 2003090501, the entries for .org will me modified.

Rodney,

Thanks for giving us this update, any notice is better than none. :)
However, I have two requests that I'd like you (and anyone with similar
responsibilities elsewhere) to take into account for next time.

1. A little _more_ advanced notice would be appreciated. At least 24
hours, preferably more.

2. Making the actual change on a day other than Friday would be
fabulous, so I don't have to change critical systems right before the
weekend.

Fortunately, this particular change didn't cause a lot of hair pulling,
but in general it would be nice if folks would take these two points
into consideration. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd appreciate it.

Happy weekend,

Doug

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Re: Sobig.f surprise attack today

2003-08-22 Thread Doug Barton

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Owen DeLong wrote:

> Sure, it won't happen in 30 minutes, but, I don't understand why this
> wasn't started when F-Secure first noticed the situation.

I seriously doubt that most (any?) ISP would be willing to accept the
legal liability for altering anything on the computer of a third party
that just happened to connect to an IP in a netblock they are
responsible for. White worms are an elegant engineering concept, but
have little practical value (and huge risk) outside of networks that you
control directly.

Doug

-- 
"You're walkin' the wire, pain and desire. Looking for love in between."

- The Eagles, "Victim of Love"


Re: 69/8...this sucks

2003-03-10 Thread Doug Barton

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, E.B. Dreger wrote:

> The suggestion is to move ALL root, and as many TLD as possible,
> servers into the new space.  Nobody has said "move one or two",
> which indeed would be ineffective.

Ah, sorry, I wasn't aware of the full extent of your crack-smoking-ness.
:) You'll never get all of the root server operators to agree on this (or
much of anything), so that leaves the root out (even if this were a good
idea, which it isn't). Since for sufficiently useful definitions of "all,"
all of the TLD's are commercial entities, you'll never get them to
volunteer to break their own domains, and their customers would riot if
they did.

Suffice it to say, this idea is never going to happen, although if it
takes energy away from the "ldap is the solution to all problems" thread,
feel free to keep discussing it.

Doug

-- 

If it's moving, encrypt it. If it's not moving, encrypt
it till it moves, then encrypt it some more.


Re: 69/8...this sucks

2003-03-10 Thread Doug Barton

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, E.B. Dreger wrote:

>
> JSW> Date: 10 Mar 2003 15:23:52 -0500
> JSW> From: Jeff S Wheeler
>
>
> JSW> I repeat my suggestion that a number of DNS root-servers or
> JSW> gtld-servers be renumbered into 69/8 space.  If the DNS
> JSW> "breaks" for these neglected networks, I suspect they will
> JSW> quickly get enough clue to fix their ACLs.
> JSW>
> JSW> Add Eddy's suggestion that the addresses all end in .0 or
> JSW> .255 and you have a fine machine for cleaning up a few old,
> JSW> irritating problems.
>
> I suggest a rotation like so:
>
>   Jan-Apr: 69.w.w.0
>   Apr-Jul: 69.x.x.255
>   Jul-Oct: 70.y.y.0
>   Oct-Jan: 70.z.z.255

This wouldn't actually accomplish what you're trying to do. The resolvers
that couldn't reach those root and/or TLD servers that are behind the
'broken' networks would simply shift their traffic to the ones that they
could reach. The only thing you'd accomplish by this is an increased load
on the root/TLD servers that are in their normal locations.

Doug

-- 

If it's moving, encrypt it. If it's not moving, encrypt
it till it moves, then encrypt it some more.


Re: [Re: [Re: M$SQL cleanup incentives]]

2003-02-21 Thread Doug Barton

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, E.B. Dreger wrote:

> BB> Recent versions of un*x BIND will pick a random port above
> BB> 1024 for udp conversations. It can and has picked 1434.
>
> Standard socket(2) behavior.  BIND [hopefully] runs chown(2)ed,
> so the source port number must be >= 1024.

At startup, named bind(2)'s a UDP port to send queries from, and get the
answers back on. In the absence of a query-source option that specifies
otherwise, this will be a random ephemeral port, however that's defined on
the system. TCP queries follow "standard" behavior, binding a random
ephemeral port for each query.

Pardon the pedantry, but since this is an often misundertood topic, I
thought it might help to lay out the facts.

HTH,

Doug

-- 

"The last time France wanted more evidence, it rolled right
through Paris with a German flag." - David Letterman


Re: DOS?

2003-01-25 Thread Doug Barton

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Christopher J. Wolff wrote:

>
> Greetings,
>
> It looks like all hell is breaking loose on some of the nations
> backbones.  http://www.internethealthreport.com
>
> The port counters on my AT&T DS3 were reading in the 250 megabit range,
> that is a DS3, mind you.
>
> Any source IP's I can add to the circular file would be appreciated.
> Any ranges I find I'll echo back to the list.

It's an MS SQL worm that is sending and receiving UDP on 1434.
http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/mssql-udp.txt appears to be relevant.

Anyone want to get involved in some sort of real time chat (like IRC) to
disuss strategies? We're seeing some pretty big traffic, and related
problems in multiple colo's world wide.

Doug

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Re: CC-TLD .af

2003-01-07 Thread Doug Barton

Hendrianto Muljawan wrote:

Hello all,

does anybody knows the NIC for Afghanistan ?


Your request seemed to indicate that you'd been here already, but just 
in case I thought I'd point out that I've found the page at
http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm to be generally pretty 
accurate. At least, the entry for .af gives you a few more e-mail 
addresses to try, and some phone numbers. Also, if you find that the 
information there is not up to date, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is generally 
appreciative of your feedback.

Hope this helps.

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  Doug Barton, Yahoo! DNS Administration and Development



Re: Yahoogroups

2002-12-22 Thread Doug Barton

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, blitz wrote:

>
> Mail to yahoogroups for two days is giving some strange responses.
>
> Mail is attempting to go to 172.16.3.10 when sent to a yahoogroup.

Yahoo! does use RFC 1918 space internally, but we're not using that block.
Therefore it's (hopefully) not something gone wacky on our end. Do you
have access to a command line somewhere that you can run dig from? If so,
please mail me privately and we can try to work out what's going on.

Doug Barton
Yahoo! DNS Administration



Re: DNS issues various

2002-10-25 Thread Doug Barton

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Simon Waters wrote:

> Last time it was discussed I thought that the provisions already
> in the DNS RFC's to allow zone transfer for "." to recursive
> servers is a neat solution for the root zone.

There are pluses and minuses to that approach. The people at .biz and
.info are _still_ getting complaints from people sitting behind broken
resolvers with bogus copies of the root zone. Doing this in a widespread
manner is likely to lead to more problems of this sort for new TLD's, and
updates to existing ones.

Also, if you consider that  of root server queries
are for the same say, 10 TLD's, and that those records are cached for 2
days, it would most likely be a net increase in root server traffic to
have millions of resolvers slaving the zone.

Speaking only for myself, I think the combination of anycast and DNSSEC
has the best chance of success; both for the root and gTLD servers.

Doug




Re: Who does source address validation? (was Re: what's that smell?)

2002-10-13 Thread Doug Barton


On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

> Ok, but how do you generate megabits worth of traffic for which there is
> no return traffic? At some level, someone or something must be trying to
> do something _really hard_ but keep failing every time. It just doesn't
> make sense.

I could show you VOLUMES of name server logs for people doing things that
could never possibly succeed, over and over and over again. My favorite
are the people who try to use my authoritative name servers as resolvers.
No one at my company can recall a time that our auth. name servers EVER
allowed recursion.

My point is simply that we shouldn't underestimate the stupidity of the
masses, and anything that can be done to improve things, should be. Of
course, the problem in this thread is the varying definitions of
"improve."

Doug




RE: Thanks! Re: Re: Root DNS Server Issues?

2002-10-04 Thread Doug Barton


On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Bodie Francis wrote:

> I am sure Doug and others could use this to reduce the typing (the reason
> Unix was invented) when doing recursive queries for delegations (it even
> identifies lame delegations quite nicely.)

Sorry if I wasn't clear. My example was intended to be pedantic, as
opposed to actually being useful. dnstracer is an interesting program, but
I have a home-grown tool of my own that I use for day to day delegation
chain sniffing. The dig in bind 9 also has a new trace option that's
fairly useful.

Doug




Re: Thanks! Re: Re: Root DNS Server Issues?

2002-10-04 Thread Doug Barton


On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, John Neiberger wrote:

>
> Thanks to everyone who helped me out and I hope you don't mind
> me making a fool of myself.  :-)  I (and others that I work
> with) learned quite a lot from your responses to this little
> incident.  If I have to be a little bit foolish to learn
> something valuable, then so be it!  

If you have a copy of "DNS and BIND" laying around the office somewhere,
grab it and read the first two or three chapters. They do an excellent job
of describing how the distributed domain name system works. This would be
good background knowledge for anyone in the business at this level, and it
should only take you 30 minutes (or so) to read.

The one difference between what older versions of the book describe and
current reality is that the root servers, [a-m].root-servers.net, are no
longer authoritative for most of the gTLD zones. They have moved to
[a-m].gtld-servers.net.

For those who would like to see a reader's digest version of how the
delegation chain works, try the following:

dig @a.root-servers.net. com. ns

dig @a.gtld-servers.net. yahoo.com. ns

dig @ns1.yahoo.com. www.yahoo.com. ns

dig @za.akadns.net. www.yahoo.akadns.net. a

That's roughly the path that a resolver would take to figure out how to
deal with you typing "www.yahoo.com" into your browser.


Doug

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  And in this great conflict, ...  we will see freedom's victory."
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  State of the Union, January 28, 2002

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Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon

2002-08-13 Thread Doug Barton




Blake Fithen wrote:
>>Brad Knowles:
>>  The Pentagon has windows.  It also has an ancient system of air 
>>pipes aimed at all of the windows...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is this sensitive info?

Given that I saw this on the history channel the other night, I'd say 
no. :)


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Re: CA Power

2002-07-11 Thread Doug Barton


On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Gary E. Miller wrote:

>
> Yo Martin!
>
> If there is plenty of power in CA then howcum there was a "stage 2" alert
> yesterday and a "market alert today"?  Today's "projected demand" equaled
> "available resources" today  If demand played out as expected there
> would have been big trouble in CA today.

I hesitate to respond to this, but the power problems are discussed often
enough here that it's almost "on topic..."

Last summer, on one of the rolling blackout days, one of our intrepid news
stations in San Diego went down to interview one of our independent power
plant operators. They were standing next to an idle generating plant, and
the interview went something like this:

Reporter: So, how many generators do you have at this plant?
Operator: 3
R: How many do you have operating today?
O: Just one.
R: REALLY? But we had rolling blackouts all through San Diego County
today, why aren't you operating all 3 generators?
O: Because Cal-ISO told me to turn off #2, and not to turn #3 on at all.

They went on to talk about all sorts of numbers, that basically added up
to just one of those generators could have supplied the difference between
supply and demand that day. They never did get a straight answer from
Cal-ISO about why they requested that operator to turn his generator(s)
off, but the obvious implication was that something was rotten in
Denm^WCalifornia.

Doug




Re: bulk email

2002-04-23 Thread Doug Barton


James Cronin wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm working on a bulk (opt in!) email delivery system at the moment,
> and over the years I've heard a number of possibly apocryphal
> stories about people requiring contracts with large email suppliers
> (Hotmail, AOL, Yahoo, MSN etc..) in order to be able to guarantee
> delivery and lower the risk of email that's been requested by an
> end user being mistakenly blackholed or treated as spam by their
> ISP (or webmail provider).

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/spam/spam-17.html

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Re: is your host or dhcp server sending dns dynamic updatesforrfc1918?

2002-04-19 Thread Doug Barton


"Martin J. Levy" wrote:

> I wanted to add a flag to bind to "silently ignore" these requests, but
> alas this is not a good solution for reverse-dns private space.

I have a very simple patch to BIND 8.3.1 to create a category just
for these requests so that they can easily be sent to the null channel.
Happy to send it on if anyone is interested.

Also, since I operate authoritative DNS servers for our
*mumble*BIGNUM*mumble* customers, we used to get besieged by these update
requests from our eager new customers who named their home (or office,
whatever) computers in their shiny new domain name. At one point, the
server listed in the MNAME field of the SOA got more update requests than
queries! My solution for this was to change the MNAME field to
no-dyn-updates.san.yahoo.com, which resolves to the loopback address.
(After overcoming tremendous temptation to make it resolve to
207.46.138.20.) W2k's behavior here is truly horrible... it sends 5
requests at startup, then keeps sending requests, apparently forever, till
it gets an answer it thinks it likes.

Before taking this step, I tested it fairly thoroughly, and got
the advice of some windows experts on whether this would break things.
It's been in place for about 6 months now, and so far we haven't heard a
single complaint. The only problem this ever causes is when registering
domains through certain ccTLD registries that require MNAME to be one of
the servers listed in the NS set. 

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