PSTN equivalent to the nanog list? PSTN status pages?

[Jeff . Hodges]

I was getting consistent fast busy between 650 and 801 area codes yesterday 
afternoon between 1630-1830h PDT. I don't think it was my switch, cuz time 
before getting fast busy varied from "right away" to "many seconds >= 10", and 
once I heard the beginning of a carrier recorded error msg "message T.." and 
then it was cut off and got fast busy again.

Anyway, I'm just curious if there's any place on the Internet to go looking to 
see what might be going on with the PSTN networkleast common denominator 
being a mailing list such as nanogbut I s'pose the PSTN folk aren't so 
informal ;-)



I suppose tho, that the question is moot given that with the user interface to 
the PSTN is simply "keep trying until it works" -- unless one has connections 
to multiple LECs and/or long-distance carriers that one can switch between.




thanks,

JeffH

[sorta offtopic] Cygwin.com / sources.redhat.com down or sorta unreachable?

[Jeff . Hodges]

Is the network situation from May-2004 described here..

  http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2004-May/009459.html

..possibly repeating itself?  I can traceroute to sources.redhat.com (aka 
sourceware.org aka cygwin.com) from VA via alter.net, but not from 
stanford.edu via ucaid.edu & ncren.net.

anyone have any clues as to what's going on?

thanks,

JeffH
 

stanford.edu[41]> traceroute sources.redhat.com
traceroute to sources.redhat.com (12.107.209.250), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  171.64.20.1 (171.64.20.1)  0.955 ms  0.884 ms  0.545 ms
 2  bbr2-rtr (171.64.1.161)  0.457 ms  0.466 ms  0.436 ms
 3  hpr1-rtr (171.64.1.131)  1.165 ms  1.052 ms  0.979 ms
 4  hpr-svl-hpr--stan-ge.cenic.net (137.164.27.161)  1.311 ms  1.373 ms  1.171 
ms
 5  lax-hpr--svl-hpr-10ge.cenic.net (137.164.25.12)  8.754 ms  8.862 ms  8.817 
ms
 6  abilene-LA--hpr-lax-gsr1-10ge.cenic.net (137.164.25.3)  9.207 ms  9.069 ms 
 8.924 ms
 7  hstnng-losang.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.22)  50.405 ms  40.517 ms  
40.459 ms
 8  atlang-hstnng.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.34)  60.384 ms  60.848 ms  
64.189 ms
 9  washng-atlang.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.66)  76.186 ms  75.836 ms  
76.271 ms
10  rlgh1-gw-abilene-oc48.ncren.net (198.86.17.65)  83.146 ms  82.987 ms  
83.112 ms
11  rlgh7600-gw-to-rlgh1-gw.ncren.net (128.109.70.38)  83.576 ms  83.658 ms  
83.548 ms
12  ncsu7600-gw-to-rlgh7600-gw.ncren.net (128.109.70.26)  83.941 ms  84.702 ms 
 83.651 ms
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   [neustar.com internal network hops elided]
  5   114 ms84 ms   106 ms  stih7206.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.232]
  6   253 ms   180 ms84 ms  500.Serial4-0-3.GW1.TCO4.ALTER.NET [65.195.225.2
13]
  7   161 ms   185 ms   248 ms  0.so-4-0-0.XL2.TCO4.ALTER.NET [152.63.33.242]
  8   163 ms   168 ms   119 ms  0.so-3-0-0.XL2.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.38.150]
  9   146 ms94 ms   143 ms  0.so-6-1-0.BR2.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.48.21]
 10   208 ms   201 ms   206 ms  204.255.169.2
 11   108 ms   126 ms   157 ms  tbr2-p011901.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.118]
 12   177 ms   129 ms   115 ms  gar1-p370.rlgnc.ip.att.net [12.122.3.61]
 13   217 ms   225 ms   188 ms  12.119.93.62
 14   208 ms   233 ms   233 ms  sourceware.org [12.107.209.250]

fyi: an example individual response to Verisign spin

[Jeff . Hodges]

Subject: [IP] Yesterdays WJS article on Versign
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200310/msg00057.h
tml

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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 04:45:48 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [IP] Yesterdays WJS article on Versign

>Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:17:34 -0700
>From: Dave Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Today's WJS article on Versign
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: Nick Wingfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Re:  Nick Wingfield's article
>
>
>
>Hello,
>
>"VeriSign's critics, of course, see it differently, accusing VeriSign of
>undermining the collectivist culture of the Internet, through which engineers
>hash out key changes to the network through standards groups. Unlike the Web
>and e-mail, which have become thoroughly commercialized through advertising,
>the low-level Internet routing software that VeriSign altered with its new
>service has remained relatively insulated from efforts to make a profit." ...
>
>Although notably better than most of the articles on this topic, Mr. Wingfield
>still managed to buy Verisign's spin, both its erroneous facts and its
>erroneous perspective.
>
>First of all, the service that Verisign runs has been for profit for as long
>as it has run it. That's roughly ten years. In addition the problems caused by
>Verisign were not just in the eyes of "technologists".
>
>Second of all, consider the service they suddenly changed in terms of its
>equivalent in the world of telephone. Imagine dialing a non-existent number or
>asking 411 for the number of a non-existent entry, and not being told that
>there is no listing. Instead, you are given a phone number that feeds you
>advertising. Would you view this as "a valuable navigational aid for users who
>might otherwise hit an online dead-end?" Probably not.
>
>The problem, here, is not a culture-clash between commercial ventures and
>naive technologists. Verisign contracted to provide a critical infrastructure
>service that maps domain names to Internet addresses. The only "clash" is
>between responsible and irresponsible approaches to providing that service. If
>Verisign cannot operate it at a profit, without breaking it, there are others
>quite willing and able to do the job.
>
>d/
>--
>  Dave Crocker 
>  Brandenburg InternetWorking 
>  Sunnyvale, CA  USA 

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wrt BofA ATM: is it ATM 'automated' or ATM 'async' ?

[Jeff . Hodges]

good question. anyone know the answer?


JeffH

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:29:17 -0500
Subject: [IP] is it ATM or ATM  Internet Attack's Disruptions
More Serious Than Many Thought Possible
From: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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From: David Devereaux-Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:52:19 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IP] Internet Attack's Disruptions More Serious Than Many
Thought Possible

One interesting aspect of the reporting for this event is related to the
acronym ATM.  The University of Wisconsin-Madison uses Asynchronous
Transfer Mode (ATM) for backbone transport.  We further use LAN Emulation
(LANE) on the Asynchronous Transfer Mode backbone (LANE maps IP addresses
to ATM Virtual Circuits and back to IP at the far end).  The LANE BUS
(Broadcast and Unknown Server) on the network was swamped due to the high
volume of SQLSlammer hits on broadcast and unknown addresses, effectively
denying legitimate traffic.  This BUS saturation did not happen with the
Code Red worm several months back.  We spent several hours thinking our ATM
problems were distinct from the SQLSlammer problems.

My question is, has anyone seen source information about the Bank of
America and Automated Teller Machines?  Is it possible that Bank of America
was reporting Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM) problems and not Automated
Teller Machine (ATM) problems?

Dave

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David Devereaux-Weber, P.E.
Network Services
Division of Information Technology
The University of Wisconsin - Madison
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://cable.doit.wisc.edu


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