[newbie] Good Backup solution
Hi all, I have a Mandrake 6.0 system installed as our primary DNS server (we're an ISP) and have some network monitoring tools installed (Netsaint, MRTG and IPmeter). Works like a charm ;o) I have a question though. An external 4/8gb SCSI travan tape is connected to the box and is operational, and I'm looking for an 'as user friendly as possible' backup sollution. I could just tar all the stuff I want secured (basicaly our /var/named dir, our mrtg dir, and our HTML dirs) to the tape, but I'm not the only one who would have to be able to restore a backup (or part of the backup) if something goes wrong. I had a look at Kdat. I'ts friendly enough, but can't be scheduled. What's more, it won't recognize a tape inserted in the drive, untill I format it. And of course, once formated, data is lost so I can't restore from it. Anyone know of a good, user friendly and especialy schedulable backup sollution I could try out (and perhaps adopt)? Thanks all, Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group www.net7.be - www.advalvas.be
Re: [newbie] XF86Config
thanks for the tip, Dennis. first try didn't get X going for me, but i get your meaning. i also tried it on an old install of 6.5 that i thought was workable. i think i'll sharpen my claws on 6.0 first, being that i had the sound, printer, and lan card configured within a few days. but then again...midnight commander ehh? i like it. later...touco Dennis Robertson wrote: > > Hello touco, > I have been off list but note from the digest your problem with your > Trident 3D Image 975 video card. I have the same card with an LG > Studioworks 56i monitor and had the same problem. > I suggest you preferably do another install and select the components > you have but don't probe or start X. I selected only 16 bits at > 1024x768res. Reboot to the innit3 prompt, log in,then type mc to call up > midnight commander and then: > F9 tab to Options, c for configure options, y for lynx-like motion, S > for save. > Tab left then down to ETC, then to X11 and down to XF86Config. F4 to > edit. > In the monitor section I commented out all modelines until I got to the > one I wanted (in my case 1024x768 at 70Hz). I got this from my monitor > manual as a pre-tuned mode. > Then go down to the Graphic Device section and to the section Graphic > device configured by Xconfigurator. After BoardName (unknown in my > case) insert a new line that reads: > Option "noaccel" > exactly like that. I think there is a bug that needs this option. > Then down to check that you have the svga server at the colour depth and > res you wanted. > Then F2 to save, F10 to quit and Yes to confirm. You'll be back at the > prompt and type startx. It should work. If not go back into mc and try > another modeline. > A friend showed me how to do this when I was about to abandon Linux. > Good luck. > > -- > Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA > Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
Re: [newbie] Apache on mandrake 6.1
As is said all too infrequently these days - I really appreciate that. At 07:14 PM 11/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: >(PHP) > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/mod_php3-pgsql >-3.0.12-12.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/mod_php3-manua >l-3.0.12-12.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/mod_php3-imap- >3.0.12-12.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/mod_php3-3.0.1 >2-12.i586.rpm > >(Midgard-I suggest reading the instructions before installing, some people >have reported problems that are clearly outlined in the readme. You can also >use the errors in your log files to see if it has been correctly >installed/configured) > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/mod_midgard-1. >2.1-5mdk.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/midgard-data-1 >.2.1-6mdk.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/midgard-lib-1. >2.1-4mdk.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/midgard-php-1. >2.1-3mdk.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/midgard-php-ma >nual-1.2.1-3mdk.i586.rpm > >http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/6.1/Mandrake/RPMS/midgard-php-pg >sql-1.2.1-3mdk.i586.rpm > >(Front Page extensions for Apache) >http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport/download.htm >I don't use these, so I can't verify if this works or not. > >Good Luck >Ben > > >> I don't have the CD; I installed via FTP. Are the FP2000 & PHP3 patches on >> an ftp site? I've looked on several and I can't find them. >> >
Re: [[newbie] modems for Linux]
Thanks, Mike I greatly appreciate your help. Thanks again. >From: Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [[newbie] modems for Linux] >Date: 27 Nov 99 04:40:14 EST > >"Lovister LJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > >Can anybody send me a complete lists of current brands and models > > of modems for Linux? I have tempted to go ahead and buy from a vendor >but I > > > know the vendor will tell the wrong things about the modems that > > are supported by Linux. Can anybody help me? > >Just get an external. Virtually any of them should work with linux. I'll >recommend USRobotics 56k v.90 faxmodem. >If you must get an internal, be certain it is an ISA. Make certain that >the >box doesn't indicate that Win 9x is a requirement. >Mike > > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] modems for Linux
Thanks Joey. I can now choose a modem for my PC. >From: "JMJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] modems for Linux >Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:45:35 -0600 > >On 26 Nov 99, at 18:02, Lovister LJ wrote: > > >Can anybody send me a complete lists of current brands and models > > of modems for Linux? > >Perhaps this is the info that you're looking for... >http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html > > >Joey M. Jackson > >"Look, I'm a Knight, I'm supposed to face as much peril as I can." >Michael Palin as Sir Galahad > __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Before I start?
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > John.. > I too am brand new to Linux...and would like to know how i go about making a > boot disk(?)..I am using system commander delux on win98...upon making the > boot disk...do i load it first and then the cdrom (linux mandrake 6.1) or do > i load both and they will know which loads first. > Thanks > Shane > Wait...do you already have Linux installed? If so, please ignore my previous post. If you do, just use the "mkbootdisk " and all should be well. It should bypass System Commander and anything else so long as the system is set to boot off the floppy. If you want to upgrade or install a new version of Linux, you'd do as I mentioned in my previous post. I'm afraid I'm a bit confused as to what you want. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Before I start?
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > John.. > I too am brand new to Linux...and would like to know how i go about making a > boot disk(?)..I am using system commander delux on win98...upon making the > boot disk...do i load it first and then the cdrom (linux mandrake 6.1) or do > i load both and they will know which loads first. > Thanks > Shane > Get the program "rawrite.exe" off the CDROM (it's in the /dosutils directory) and then get a blank floppy (preferably fresh out of the box) and stick it in the floppy drive. Assuming your CDROM drive is D:, the command would be "rawrite d:\images\boot.img" IIRC, Rawrite assumes your A: drive is a 3.5" floppy (you need a blank HIGH-DENSITY 1.44 mb floppy, btw.) As for using the boot floppy to install Linux, in theory, if you can change your boot sequence, you won't need it at all for an IDE CDROM. If you can't change it, you'll need to shut down Windows and restart your computer, making sure that the boot sequence is A: C: so that it looks to the floppy drive first. Then just hit "enter" at the prompt and it'll ask how you want to install and just select "local CDROM" and go from there. John
Re: [newbie] 13Gb Ide Disk and text lines
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:43:05 -0700 (MST), Axalon Bloodstone wrote: >Nope not going to happen, you could get away with useing loadlin but nt >doesn't have dos mode. You need a /boot partition somewhere in that 1024, >or you'll have to keep useing the bootdisk. > >Did you update the bootdisk after doing it? if so try vga=ask let it scan >pick your choice if it works replace the =ask with it. If you haven't >updated the disk alter the boot= line to point at the floppy. Hi, I've discovered how to do the /boot thing. Now it works pretty well. After reading a howto and your message I was able to boot with the OS/2 boot manager. Regarding the text lines, I've done so, so I am asked at boot time what i would like to do. I chose 80x50 which at first works, but in the init sequence, when INIT:Version 2.76... etc shows, the fonts seem to corrupt. At that point you can only see half the fonts, and after a while, it turns back to 80x25, not to 80x50. Any idea or suggestion? Thanks in advance again! :) --- Saludos desde Sevilla
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
ls | less why use less? Because LESS is MORE! actully, less lets you move up and down, and i feel is better then more - Original Message - From: Gregg Carrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?] > >Tom Jacobs > >P.S. Is there an ls command that will allow the > >directory contents to stop at the end of each page so > >I can read them? > > > try: > ls | more > > the | pipes the listing to more which pauses at each screen. Probably a > cooler way to do this, but this was my newbie solve. > > Regarding your usability issues, hang in there. Linux seems to be a pain to > set up at every level. I think I've had configuration problems with just > about every piece of hardware on my system. Still, when you get it > configured, it really works. No more crashing. No more hanging. And the > ability to configure Linux is all right there in editable files. No, their > names and directories don't make a hell of a lot of sense to newbies, but > it'll grow on you. I'm willing to use a more complex system that allows me > to tinker with it when things do go wrong (unlike Windows, where things just > inexplicably go wrong). With things like KDE, RPMs etc, Linux is getting > easier to use every day. I fled from Windows because of stability like you, > and I have not been disappointed. My Linux system has never crashed or hung > once. For that, I'm willing to work with a steeper learning curve. Good > luck! > > Gregg > > >--- Joachim Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On fre, 26 nov 1999, you wrote: > >> > "Thomas J. Hamman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > stable manner. But you have to admitt that > >> they have done a great job with > >> > the > >> > > > installer. Any user can install M$'s OS. Now > >> if they'd just stop trying > >> > to > >> > > >> > Gee I hate to knock you off your soap box, but > >> just about ALL new mother > >> > boards support the self-same boot of CD Rom to > >> install Linux AND Win9X. > >> > Risking more Flames here...Win98 is MORE user > >> friendly after first install, > >> > all most all components ARE installed WITH their > >> driver's. > >> > >> OK.. So you mean that CD-Writes are installed with > >> drivers ?? All Graphic cards > >> are installed with drivers ?? Sound cards are > >> installed with drivers ?? > >> That's a change. The last time I was forced to > >> install win98, it didn't. > >> > >> > > >> > Now untill I learn the method to Linux's madness > >> for installing programs and > >> > WHERE the heck they are after that, I will > >> continue using Win98 as my primary > >> > OS. But to be fair Linux has many points in it's > >> favor, the foremost one is > >> > that it is a free OS, and more important...very > >> stable. > >> > >> To find the location of a file, try whereis. If > >> Mandrake supports the RedHat > >> filesystem scheme, most files will be installed in > >> either /usr/bin or > >> /usr/sbin. Cinfig files go in /etc. > >> > >> /Jocke! > >> > >> -- > >> > >> ... The free UNIX operating system > >> :::' ... .. > >> ::: * ::.::' > >> ::: .:: .:.::. .:: .:: ::. :' > >> ::: :: :: :: :: :: :::. > >> ::: .::. .:: ::. . .:' ::. > >> ..:::.::' .. > >> > >> > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > >
[newbie] Partition Magic - Mandrake Power pack?
Hi folks, John mentioned that Partition Magic might be on the Mandrake - Power pack CD's. I've been thinking about picking up a copy, but I could save a few bucks, if it's on Mandrake. Anyone know for sure if its on the cd's and what version? Thanks! Mark Fitzgerald mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Before I start?
Hi John, First of .. Thank you! I'll sit down tonight and draw up a plan and I've picked up a few Howto's. One more thing. I forgot to mention that I will be using 128 meg of ram, any advive on swap file size? Regards! Mark Fitzgerald mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: November 29, 1999 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Before I start? > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > I have to install WinNintyHate, so I've been giving this some > > thought. A friend of mine installs win98 in 2 partitions, where most > > of the programs are in the second > > and win98 itself in the first. Better off in a crash situation he > > says. > > > Sound idea. :-) You'd also be well advised to back up your > registry to the second drive on a fairly regular basis > (weekly, daily, hourly??? ) > > > > Well anyway, I have to large drives and I want > > to install both OS's. > How is the best way to go about > > it? > > > ALWAYS install Windows first, as it will wipe the MBR on > installation. If you plan on dual-booting using LILO, you > MUST install Windows first, then install Linux. > > > > I don't really want to go through all the > > work of installing linux in my hpc-366 situation, to > > have Win98 blow it up on me when it installs. Which OS > > first? > > > Definitely Windows 98. It resets the MBR when it installs, > so that would wipe your LILO. Get a basic Win98 > installation up and running, then install Linux. Also, make > sure you do NOT turn on the bios-level virus protection, as > it may think LILO is a boot-sector virus and refuse to > load. :-) > > > > I plan to put Linux and I suppose win98 on the 18 gig > > drive. Also, I plan to give Linux atleast 8 Gig or more. > > > > (BTW - I have Linux Mandrake - 6.1 Power pack) > > > > Your thoughts on this and Thanks in advance! > > > Sounds like a plan to me. :-) I'd suggest making /home a > separate partition so if something happens you won't have > problems and lose your home directory/ies. Also, you'd be > advised to put a 5-10 meg partition at the HEAD of the > primary drive as your "/boot" partition. And, I'd recommend > a "junk" partition where you can store the archives of any > programs you install so that if you have to reinstall > Linux, you can easily reinstall your programs (Star Office, > WP8 for Linux, etc.) > John
Re: [newbie] UPDATE: "lost" my printer
Joe Marcom wrote: > > Hello again, Steve; > Bad news first, this time. > lpr /etc/profile >>lpr: lp: unknown > printer >lpq >>lp: unknown printer >status all >> unknown printer >restart all >> lp0 no daemon to abort > lp0 daemon started > lp1 no daemon to abort > lp1 daemon started > I'm consistent, anyway. Then, I went to X and opened the Kpackage > Handbook. Perfect printing. Didn't need to run "Printtool", either. > Back to command mode and the "unknown printer" error. > I hope you can recognize a pattern here. BTW, interesting, re sndconfig > and installation. I noticed it was an issue, recently. Regards, > Joe Joe, Try this from the command line: lpr -Plp0 /etc/profile Does it work? -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] kernel upgrade woes
List, I have had a problem trying to upgrade kernel, using MandrakeUpdate. I did the initscripts, kernel and kernel source in one hit. All downloaded ok, and seemed to install ok. modified /etc/lilo.conf and re-ran lilo so it now looks at the new /boot/kernelblhblah22mdk. Once in, all seems to go ok except that kppp now has some difficulty with resolving dns names (or something along those lines). Connects ok, despite an error dialogue that says ppp support is not in the current kernel. /var/log/messages shows that the connection to ISP is made, and a local and remote IP are listed, so I assume that the login and connection are negotiated ok at some level. >From there on the problem is that I can not see anything on the dial-up network beyond being able to ping to the remote IP address. No name resolution happens, so no mail, no web, no news etc. e.g. if I ping to the DNS name for the ISP I get no response. I had a look around /etc and files like resolv.conf seem to be intact. Any pointers to where I should look next please? Thanks in advance, Bruce Moffatt
Re: [newbie] modem trouble
Have you been able to set the modem to com1 or com2, after that then you can query the modem. - Original Message - From: Lionel Barrow To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 1:41 PM Subject: [newbie] modem trouble Hey guys, I was using WinLinux with my internal ISA modem and everything was cool with kppp so I decided to try Mandrake and now all of a sudden my modem refuses to work with the same kppp. I am desperate here guys, how do I get it respond now. I tried querying the modem in kppp but to no avail. I can get nothing out of it. Am I domed to buying an external modem. Thanks in advance:) Salty1
Re: [newbie] 13Gb Ide Disk and text lines
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:43:05 -0700 (MST), Axalon Bloodstone wrote: >> there any way I could boot from the HD, from the lilo I have in the HD >> rather than using the 3.5" disk?. (I wouldn't like to change the >> partitions). > >Nope not going to happen, you could get away with useing loadlin but nt >doesn't have dos mode. You need a /boot partition somewhere in that 1024, >or you'll have to keep useing the bootdisk. Ok, so you mean a small partition for the /boot directory and another partition for the rest of the installation, isn't it? So, how long should that /boot partition be? Is there any specific howto for this topic? >Did you update the bootdisk after doing it? if so try vga=ask let it scan >pick your choice if it works replace the =ask with it. If you haven't >updated the disk alter the boot= line to point at the floppy. No, and I don't know how to do it. I know how to edit that file, but no clue what to do next. Could you tell me? Thanks in advance from a newbie! :) --- Saludos desde Sevilla
Re: [newbie] Linux Time Setting
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > > > I put ' alias rdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov" ' in 'bashrc'. > > All I have to do is type 'rdate' and the time and date are set > > correctly. > > > Tom: > You might also want to add "hwclock --systohc" to that > alias so that you sync your HARDWARE clock to the software > one as well. :-) I do it in two steps, since I'm too lazy > to make that alias myself... :-) 'Course, you probably need > to make the "rdate" and "hwclock" executeable files run > SUID, so you don't have to constantly SU to root. :-) > John > I know it's bad form to reply to your own messages, but I thought I'd point out the results of an experiment I did. I su'ed to root, went into /sbin and ran "chmod +s hwclock." Then, I exited SU status and tried to synch the hardware clock with the software clock and got a message that only root can modify the hardware clock. So, I guess that's one program that just won't run SUID. :-) John
Re: [newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine
- Original Message - From: Robert Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine > That would be nice, but when I type: >kaffe HelloWorld > I get a sigment fault. What does 'kaffe HelloWorld' do? You mean you get a segment fault when you do 'javac HelloWorld' or 'java HelloWorld'? Even though they named the virtual machine 'kaffe', it's not the command you are supposed to use. Usage is the same as any other Java virtual machine.
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
>Tom Jacobs >P.S. Is there an ls command that will allow the >directory contents to stop at the end of each page so >I can read them? try: ls | more the | pipes the listing to more which pauses at each screen. Probably a cooler way to do this, but this was my newbie solve. Regarding your usability issues, hang in there. Linux seems to be a pain to set up at every level. I think I've had configuration problems with just about every piece of hardware on my system. Still, when you get it configured, it really works. No more crashing. No more hanging. And the ability to configure Linux is all right there in editable files. No, their names and directories don't make a hell of a lot of sense to newbies, but it'll grow on you. I'm willing to use a more complex system that allows me to tinker with it when things do go wrong (unlike Windows, where things just inexplicably go wrong). With things like KDE, RPMs etc, Linux is getting easier to use every day. I fled from Windows because of stability like you, and I have not been disappointed. My Linux system has never crashed or hung once. For that, I'm willing to work with a steeper learning curve. Good luck! Gregg >--- Joachim Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On fre, 26 nov 1999, you wrote: >> > "Thomas J. Hamman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: >> > > >> > > > stable manner. But you have to admitt that >> they have done a great job with >> > the >> > > > installer. Any user can install M$'s OS. Now >> if they'd just stop trying >> > to >> > >> > Gee I hate to knock you off your soap box, but >> just about ALL new mother >> > boards support the self-same boot of CD Rom to >> install Linux AND Win9X. >> > Risking more Flames here...Win98 is MORE user >> friendly after first install, >> > all most all components ARE installed WITH their >> driver's. >> >> OK.. So you mean that CD-Writes are installed with >> drivers ?? All Graphic cards >> are installed with drivers ?? Sound cards are >> installed with drivers ?? >> That's a change. The last time I was forced to >> install win98, it didn't. >> >> > >> > Now untill I learn the method to Linux's madness >> for installing programs and >> > WHERE the heck they are after that, I will >> continue using Win98 as my primary >> > OS. But to be fair Linux has many points in it's >> favor, the foremost one is >> > that it is a free OS, and more important...very >> stable. >> >> To find the location of a file, try whereis. If >> Mandrake supports the RedHat >> filesystem scheme, most files will be installed in >> either /usr/bin or >> /usr/sbin. Cinfig files go in /etc. >> >> /Jocke! >> >> -- >> >> ... The free UNIX operating system >> :::' ... .. >> ::: * ::.::' >> ::: .:: .:.::. .:: .:: ::. :' >> ::: :: :: :: :: :: :::. >> ::: .::. .:: ::. . .:' ::. >> ..:::.::' .. >> >> > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com >
[newbie] modem trouble
Hey guys, I was using WinLinux with my internal ISA modem and everything was cool with kppp so I decided to try Mandrake and now all of a sudden my modem refuses to work with the same kppp. I am desperate here guys, how do I get it respond now. I tried querying the modem in kppp but to no avail. I can get nothing out of it. Am I domed to buying an external modem. Thanks in advance:) Salty1
Re: [newbie] Before I start?
John.. I too am brand new to Linux...and would like to know how i go about making a boot disk(?)..I am using system commander delux on win98...upon making the boot disk...do i load it first and then the cdrom (linux mandrake 6.1) or do i load both and they will know which loads first. Thanks Shane - Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Before I start? > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > I have to install WinNintyHate, so I've been giving this some > > thought. A friend of mine installs win98 in 2 partitions, where most > > of the programs are in the second > > and win98 itself in the first. Better off in a crash situation he > > says. > > > Sound idea. :-) You'd also be well advised to back up your > registry to the second drive on a fairly regular basis > (weekly, daily, hourly??? ) > > > > Well anyway, I have to large drives and I want > > to install both OS's. > How is the best way to go about > > it? > > > ALWAYS install Windows first, as it will wipe the MBR on > installation. If you plan on dual-booting using LILO, you > MUST install Windows first, then install Linux. > > > > I don't really want to go through all the > > work of installing linux in my hpc-366 situation, to > > have Win98 blow it up on me when it installs. Which OS > > first? > > > Definitely Windows 98. It resets the MBR when it installs, > so that would wipe your LILO. Get a basic Win98 > installation up and running, then install Linux. Also, make > sure you do NOT turn on the bios-level virus protection, as > it may think LILO is a boot-sector virus and refuse to > load. :-) > > > > I plan to put Linux and I suppose win98 on the 18 gig > > drive. Also, I plan to give Linux atleast 8 Gig or more. > > > > (BTW - I have Linux Mandrake - 6.1 Power pack) > > > > Your thoughts on this and Thanks in advance! > > > Sounds like a plan to me. :-) I'd suggest making /home a > separate partition so if something happens you won't have > problems and lose your home directory/ies. Also, you'd be > advised to put a 5-10 meg partition at the HEAD of the > primary drive as your "/boot" partition. And, I'd recommend > a "junk" partition where you can store the archives of any > programs you install so that if you have to reinstall > Linux, you can easily reinstall your programs (Star Office, > WP8 for Linux, etc.) > John >
Re: [newbie] Installation help!
I've just purchased Fujitsu 66 and loaded to it with no problems (emailing from it now with kmail). Only running it with normal UDMA33 setup. On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > Hey all... > > > > Totally new to the Linux thing, but not new to the Unix thing. Though > > familiar with Unix, I have never had to install it, and being totally new to > > Linux, have no clue why I am having problems. > > > > I'm running a Abit BE6 motherboard, Celeron500, 128MB, 13GB Quantum fireball > > UltraATA66, Guillemot 3D Prophet video (Nvidia GeForce256), and all the > > other usual goodies... Monster sound, etc... > > > > My main partition is, of course, this Win98 partition from which I am > > mailing... I have over 3GB of unpartitioned space on this same HD to which I > > am attempting to install Mandrake. > > > > I have followed the Installation instructions to the letter, though I think > > I have narrowed my problems down to the fact that my HD is UltraATA66... > > > Hmm...are you using the Ultra66 controller or the standard > controller? There was something in the list last week about > getting Linux to see the ata66 hard drive, although I don't > think they discussed trying to do a fresh install on it. > John
Re: [newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine
That would be nice, but when I type: kaffe HelloWorld I get a sigment fault. >From: "Seung-woo Nam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:56:04 -0500 > >You are supposed to use it the same way you do in any other platform. If >you are talking about a simple 'Hello World', you don't need to pass >classpath or anything. >You just need to : >javac HelloWorld.java >java HelloWorld (if it's stand-alone app) > >Seung-woo Nam > - Original Message - > From: Robert Benson > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 9:53 AM > Subject: [newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine > > > Hi > Trying to run "kaffe" GNU's Java virtual machine. I used guavac to >create > the HelloWorld.class file. When I typed: > > kaffe -classpath /usr/share/kaffe HelloWorld > > I received: Couldn't find or load essential classes > `java/language/Object' java.language.NoClassDefFoundError > java/language/Object. > > I included /usr/include/kaffe, /usr/lib/kaffe and /usr/share/kaffe >in my > path. Also set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib/kaffe > > What am I missing? Any help would be appriciated. Would it be >better to load > JDK from Sun or go with GNU? > > > > >-- > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Kernel updates -- Compiled, but not taking...
Hiya folks, Relatively quick (I hope) question about kernel updates on a Mandrake 6.1 machine. I've been playing with Linux for a couple years, and have recently stopped using Slackware in favor of Mandrake (with which I am very impressed!) I'm in a position to encourage the use of Linux at several technology departments within Cornell, but in order to do so, I'm trying to get a better handle on it myself. My problem is with kernel updates. Previously (with Slackware) I would download source, compile it, and overwrite vmlinuz with the image that I'd compiled. I do that now, and my /boot partition shows vmlinuz pointing to the 2.2.13-22mdk kernel, as well as the system map and module info also pointing to the new versions, but as soon as I reboot, it drops back to the old version. I can't seem to get it to accept the new one, even after re-running lilo and editing by hand lilo.conf. I went into linuxconf to play around with the lilo configurations, and hit a major roadblock. My linux partition is the secondary master (/dev/hdc1 -- boot, hdc2 -- root, hdc3 -- swap), and so the 'root partition' option under the lilo conf is /dev/hdc2. This works. My machine dual boots perfectly between Linux and Win98. However, if I go into the config and try to add a new kernel to lilo, or even to look at the one that's there, it refuses to 'accept' even the options /that already are in place/ because '/dev/hdc2 is not a valid linux partition'. I've tried every other hdc partition, just /dev/hdc, and just /. It won't accept anything. According to the help, the drop-down menu displays a list of partitions there, but it doesn't. I tried running Helios on a machine at one of the technology offices here at Cornell, and encountered the same problem. That machine has only one hard disk (though, for no good reason, it's the secondary master), and Mandrake refuses to accept any setting as the 'root' partition for LILO; it won't accept any kernel upgrades (at least, not in the fashion I'm accustomed to) either. Has anyone else encountered this? I tried looking through the FAQ, and changed my LILO boot mode to linear (because my linux disk is a Maxtor IDE 5 gig drive and reports itself oddly to Linux, even though it works fine in BIOS) but that didn't matter. Thanks very much, in advance -- I have several people here oooing and aaahing over Mandrake, which has been up for two weeks on our network, unlike our student lab machines, that crash every couple hours (one guess what OS they're running...) -Samuel Knowlton Johnson Graduate School of Management Technology Services Cornell University
Re: [newbie] Linux Time Setting
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > I put ' alias rdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov" ' in 'bashrc'. > All I have to do is type 'rdate' and the time and date are set > correctly. > Tom: You might also want to add "hwclock --systohc" to that alias so that you sync your HARDWARE clock to the software one as well. :-) I do it in two steps, since I'm too lazy to make that alias myself... :-) 'Course, you probably need to make the "rdate" and "hwclock" executeable files run SUID, so you don't have to constantly SU to root. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Linux Time Setting
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Hello List, > I have searched Tucows for a program such as Socket Watch or Clockwise > for Windows that will set the computer clock by an atomic clock each > time you connect to the internet. There is one for Gnome called System > Clock Detector but I want one for KDE. Any suggestions? > Thanks. There is a companion to "TARDIS" called K9 which is a console program. However, there's a great one called "rdate" already included for free (it, too, is a console-level program.) John
Re: [newbie] Kernel Update
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Also I read man mkbootdisk and through trial and error rather than clear > assistance I entered: mkbootdisk --device /dev/floppy 2.2.13-22mdk and > it worked. Each time I made an error I got a clue about what to try > next. Better than Riven! > Actually, you shouldn't have had to specify the device (and it would've been /dev/fd0 ) It *should* have been as easy as "mkbootdisk 2.2.13-22mdk" John
Re: [newbie] Before I start?
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > I have to install WinNintyHate, so I've been giving this some > thought. A friend of mine installs win98 in 2 partitions, where most > of the programs are in the second > and win98 itself in the first. Better off in a crash situation he > says. > Sound idea. :-) You'd also be well advised to back up your registry to the second drive on a fairly regular basis (weekly, daily, hourly??? ) > > Well anyway, I have to large drives and I want > to install both OS's. > How is the best way to go about > it? > ALWAYS install Windows first, as it will wipe the MBR on installation. If you plan on dual-booting using LILO, you MUST install Windows first, then install Linux. > > I don't really want to go through all the > work of installing linux in my hpc-366 situation, to > have Win98 blow it up on me when it installs. Which OS > first? > Definitely Windows 98. It resets the MBR when it installs, so that would wipe your LILO. Get a basic Win98 installation up and running, then install Linux. Also, make sure you do NOT turn on the bios-level virus protection, as it may think LILO is a boot-sector virus and refuse to load. :-) > > I plan to put Linux and I suppose win98 on the 18 gig > drive. Also, I plan to give Linux atleast 8 Gig or more. > > (BTW - I have Linux Mandrake - 6.1 Power pack) > > Your thoughts on this and Thanks in advance! > Sounds like a plan to me. :-) I'd suggest making /home a separate partition so if something happens you won't have problems and lose your home directory/ies. Also, you'd be advised to put a 5-10 meg partition at the HEAD of the primary drive as your "/boot" partition. And, I'd recommend a "junk" partition where you can store the archives of any programs you install so that if you have to reinstall Linux, you can easily reinstall your programs (Star Office, WP8 for Linux, etc.) John
RE: [newbie] Installation help!
I have almost an identical setup and I simply cheated to install Linux. I disconnected the HD and CD-ROM from the Highpoint controller (the white sockets on the MB) and plugged them into the black sockets (regular IDE). Linux detected this properly. However, when I did this I did not have the HD and CD-ROM setpu in my BIOS, make sure you do this or you won't be able to bring up Windows. Once I got Linux installed and happy (I am still in the process), I plan to change the boot options to work with the UDMA66 Highpoint controller. Good luck. Kyle G. Robinson Programmer/ Analyst Pangaea Systems Inc. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 07:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation help! On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Hey all... > > Totally new to the Linux thing, but not new to the Unix thing. Though > familiar with Unix, I have never had to install it, and being totally new to > Linux, have no clue why I am having problems. > > I'm running a Abit BE6 motherboard, Celeron500, 128MB, 13GB Quantum fireball > UltraATA66, Guillemot 3D Prophet video (Nvidia GeForce256), and all the > other usual goodies... Monster sound, etc... > > My main partition is, of course, this Win98 partition from which I am > mailing... I have over 3GB of unpartitioned space on this same HD to which I > am attempting to install Mandrake. > > I have followed the Installation instructions to the letter, though I think > I have narrowed my problems down to the fact that my HD is UltraATA66... > Hmm...are you using the Ultra66 controller or the standard controller? There was something in the list last week about getting Linux to see the ata66 hard drive, although I don't think they discussed trying to do a fresh install on it. John
Re: [newbie] Linux Time Setting
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > Hello List, > > I have searched Tucows for a program such as Socket Watch or Clockwise > > for Windows that will set the computer clock by an atomic clock each > > time you connect to the internet. There is one for Gnome called System > > Clock Detector but I want one for KDE. Any suggestions? > > Thanks. > > -- > > Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA > > Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first. > > I put ' alias rdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov" ' in 'bashrc'. > All I have to do is type 'rdate' and the time and date are set > correctly. > > -- > ..Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's a pretty good one! Just did it. My clock was 2 precious minutes slow. -Josh .
[newbie] Resolving symbols in modules
Greetings all! On the topic of kernel upgrades, im attempting to go from 2.2.9 to 2.2.13 and when i try to create module dependencies i get the message 'unresolved symbol in:' and it lists some module i dont even use, i think a pcmcia mod or something to that effect. I suspect this is the reason that i get no modules.dep file created in lib/modules/2.2.13. Is there something i need to do/obtain? I have the kernel source and headers for 2.2.13, using the following sequence: make xconfig make dep clean bzImage make modules modules_install depmod -a Thanks all! --
Re: [newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine
You are supposed to use it the same way you do in any other platform. If you are talking about a simple 'Hello World', you don't need to pass classpath or anything. You just need to : javac HelloWorld.java java HelloWorld (if it's stand-alone app) Seung-woo Nam - Original Message - From: Robert Benson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 9:53 AM Subject: [newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine Hi Trying to run "kaffe" GNU's Java virtual machine. I used guavac to create the HelloWorld.class file. When I typed: kaffe -classpath /usr/share/kaffe HelloWorld I received: Couldn't find or load essential classes `java/language/Object' java.language.NoClassDefFoundError java/language/Object. I included /usr/include/kaffe, /usr/lib/kaffe and /usr/share/kaffe in my path. Also set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib/kaffe What am I missing? Any help would be appriciated. Would it be better to load JDK from Sun or go with GNU? Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > When I think of a windows > install, I think of about 4 hours sitting in front of a computer > clicking buttons with a mouse, multiple rebooting session and crossing > my fingers that it will work this time. Installing Linux on the other And could you imagine how long a kernel compile would take for windows? Ive seen some of the windows (win95 anyway) source and let me tell ya folx, it aint pretty. . . -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the few truly beautiful things left in the world.
Re: [newbie] Upgrade Linux Mandrake via ftp
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Hi people, > > How can I upgrade Linux Mandrake via ftp? > Do you currently have a RedHat or Mandrake installation? If so, you should be able to do an upgrade. If not, you'll need to do a full install via ftp. The first thing you need to do is download a network boot image (bootnet.img) from somewhere (sorry, I don't know where...) and then make a boot floppy from that. If you already have some form of Linux installed you can use the linux command "dd." The syntax is as follows -- dd if=bootnet.img of=/dev/fd0. Be prepared with a known-good floppy that you can use to make a boot floppy with. Note that anything on that floppy will be destroyed, so it's better to use a brand new, blank floppy. Once you've made the boot floppy, you will need to stick it in the floppy drive, reboot your computer and just hit "enter" at the first prompt. Then, select "ftp install" at the next menu. You'll need to know some info about the site you're going to use to do an ftp install, such as the site name and the EXACT directory structure to the install files. This will work best if you have an existing linux/unix machine you can use to mirror the linux files on your local network. If you do not have a dedicated connection (cable, adsl, etc) or "ethernet-based" isdn connection, it may be difficult to use an ftp upgrade. John
[newbie] Kppp Problem
Hi, i'm new in this list and quite new in Linux, but i'm trying to learn something. Hi, i've got a problem with the Internet conection. The kppp doesn't recognize the modem. I've got an internal modem (/dev/ttyS2), but kppp says that he can´t find modem. It is not a WinModem, because Caldera OpenLinux recognize it. Thanks a lot, Chus
Re: [newbie] figured it out... different problem now...
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Hey again all... > > New problem, I have gotten into Disk Druid (finally! ;)) and now it wont > assign the root partition because it says that "the boot partition is too > large?" > > I believe this has something to do with it being over 1024 cylinders.. or > perhaps it is because of a Fat32 partition being in the way I can't get > rid of the Windoze partition, so I need to figure out a way around this... I > know it's a pretty common problem... > Pick up a copy of Partition Magic from Powerquest and use that to "squeeze" a 5-10 meg partition at the head of the drive that windows won't "see." Make that your "/boot" partition and that *should* work. If you picked up a boxed set of Mandrake, you should have a copy of Partition Magic included on one of the extra CDs. If not, you'll have to pony up an additional fee to PowerQuest for a full version of PM. John
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > P.S. Is there an ls command that will allow the > directory contents to stop at the end of each page so > I can read them? > Yes: ls |less (that's the "pipe" symbol, in case you don't recognize it.) As for your "x-server" problems, what video card do you have and what did you install for an x-server? John
Re: [newbie] Installation help!
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Hey all... > > Totally new to the Linux thing, but not new to the Unix thing. Though > familiar with Unix, I have never had to install it, and being totally new to > Linux, have no clue why I am having problems. > > I'm running a Abit BE6 motherboard, Celeron500, 128MB, 13GB Quantum fireball > UltraATA66, Guillemot 3D Prophet video (Nvidia GeForce256), and all the > other usual goodies... Monster sound, etc... > > My main partition is, of course, this Win98 partition from which I am > mailing... I have over 3GB of unpartitioned space on this same HD to which I > am attempting to install Mandrake. > > I have followed the Installation instructions to the letter, though I think > I have narrowed my problems down to the fact that my HD is UltraATA66... > Hmm...are you using the Ultra66 controller or the standard controller? There was something in the list last week about getting Linux to see the ata66 hard drive, although I don't think they discussed trying to do a fresh install on it. John
Re: [newbie] Kernel Update
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Last question. How do I create a boot disk for the new kernel? The > install CD wouldn't let me. Do I amend the old boot disk or, since I > have kept the old kernel, add the new kernel to the old boot disk? > Thanks for any help. > Get to a console prompt and type "mkbootdisk " and replace with the boot kernel name. Read the instructions in more detail with "man mkbootdisk" John
Re: [newbie] lilo
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > When you update the kernel you have to put what in lilo so it uses the > new kernel? > Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Jeff: First of all, please lose the HTML. It doesn't work well for many Linux email clients. Second, you need to take a look at your current /etc/lilo.conf and basically take that as your pattern. For example, here's my lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=50 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 label=linux root=/dev/hda5 read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=dos table=/dev/hda To add a new kernel, you'd take and copy that whole section under "image" and then paste it immediately above or below the current "image" section. Then, you'd replace (in the new section) the "vmlinuz-2.2.5-15" with whatever you've named your new kernel and you might want to add something about the default image (sorry...I forget the exact syntax...I'm sure Axalon or someone can tell you.) But, you should *always* leave the "old" kernel in place until you're sure that the "new" kernel works. Several people on this list have found out the hard way by "upgrading" the kernel and forgetting to change the lilo.conf or having some other problem. :-) John
Re: [Re: [newbie] Upgrade from Mandrake Linux 6.0 to 6.1]
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > Secondly, would some nice programmer make a script to _autoinstall_ the > > updated kernel, ie: step thru _ALL_ the make, make mod, etc so that given a > > set install DIR, that once the new kernel is located there in uncompressed > > format, that a simple _UPDATE_ or _INSTALL_ would complete the entire task > > along with options for a backup version for safety sake and rebbot to the NEW > > or optionally old kernel > > I think your going to have to re-explain that, as it went right over my > head, am i to understand you'd like tobe able to drop a kernel and modules > into a dir run a script and have the script handle placement and lilo? > Seems redundant to me. > Well, it would be nice to be able to type one command and have it compile the kernel, copy it to the /boot directory, add it to the lilo.conf and re-run lilo for you. I can see that. You'd still have to configure the kernel to choose the options you wanted, but once you're done with that, I can see how it would be nice to run ONE script, say "kernelcompiler," and then double-check that the new kernel had been added to the lilo.conf and reboot. John
[newbie] GNU kaffe virtual machine
Hi Trying to run "kaffe" GNU's Java virtual machine. I used guavac to create the HelloWorld.class file. When I typed: kaffe -classpath /usr/share/kaffe HelloWorld I received: Couldn't find or load essential classes `java/language/Object' java.language.NoClassDefFoundError java/language/Object. I included /usr/include/kaffe, /usr/lib/kaffe and /usr/share/kaffe in my path. Also set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib/kaffe What am I missing? Any help would be appriciated. Would it be better to load JDK from Sun or go with GNU? Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] question about modems
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999,bluebottle wrote: | As it's ISA it should. Check that it has jumpers to set it as non PnP. Set to | non PnP and config jumpers/dip switches to say Com 4 IRQ 3. My ISA Modem is set | to this and works fine. | | On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, you wrote: | > Will the Newcom Internal 56K Data/Fax ISA Modem work with Linux? | > | > Thanks in advance, | > Ian Herbert You can use any available COM port you wish, just be sure that the IRQ is set for the COM port you choose. You should be able to determine the correct assignments in your BIOS, or in a "fix it yourself" 'puter book. Both the COM port and the IRQ must be available (not in use by any other device). HTH, -- Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The measure of a man is in his honor ...
RE: [newbie] Kernel Update
Title: RE: [newbie] Kernel Update This is an e-mail example that I've received today. -Mensaje original- De: Dennis Robertson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: lunes 29 de noviembre de 1999 13:09 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto:Re: [newbie] Kernel Update Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Dennis Robertson wrote: > > > Hello list, > > I have been absent during a re-install of L-M6.1 to try to cure my > > problem with kppp disabling my desktop. I decided to go for broke and > > updated the kernel etc with the Mandrake update function on the desktop. > > All went well except for some annoying unintended consequences. > > Firstly, it takes exactly one minute for sendmail to start in the boot > > process, compared to a blink of the eye in the old configuration. > > Anyone know how to speed this up? > > Make sure your ip/hostname are correct and functioning properly > > > Second, when I use the dreaded kppp I get : > > Error - This kernel has no PPP support, neither compiled in nor via the > > kernel module loader. To solve this problem see your system > > administrator (me) or install a kernel with PPP support. I click OK, > > the warning disappears and a fully functioning kppp panel appears. How > > do I fix it to get rid of the warning? > > I no longer have facilities to do ppp testing :( > > > Third, I installed the mount update which is supposed to solve the > > floppy mounting problem, but it doesn't. I had to amend /etc/fstab to > > read: > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,noauto,rw,exec 0 0 > > and it works. > > I'm not familiar with the bug in question, but it stands to reason one > need manualy update fstab (we avoid this as much as posible) > > > Last question. How do I create a boot disk for the new kernel? The > > install CD wouldn't let me. Do I amend the old boot disk or, since I > > have kept the old kernel, add the new kernel to the old boot disk? > > Thanks for any help. > > man mkbootdisk, > > mkbootdisk `uname -r` > > -- > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > --Axalon Hello Axalon, Thanks for your input. I arbitarily changed the hostname and it corrected the sendmail problem. Why the new kernel would have changed an area of linuxconf that I have not dared to enter I don't know. Also I read man mkbootdisk and through trial and error rather than clear assistance I entered: mkbootdisk --device /dev/floppy 2.2.13-22mdk and it worked. Each time I made an error I got a clue about what to try next. Better than Riven! Surely it is possible to write a floppy mounting program that works? If you are not familiar with the problem try an install of L-M6.1 and then try to mount msdos and ext2 floppies. The default Fstab floppy entry is far removed from what is required. As for kppp, surely it would feature largely in a linux site to rival the Windows 98 Annoyances site. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
Re: [newbie] . . .that one question
Seth Gibson wrote: > Greetings all! > Im taking a survey for a web project im working on and i was wondering > if anyone interested would mind answering the following question: > > When you were just getting started in linux, what was question (or questions) > you had that no one seemed to have an answer for? > > Thanx All! > -- > > Seth Gibson > www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 > members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (There,s Actually STUFF Here Now!) > OpenGL: Everything should work this well OK, it's working (sort of), now what do I do with it?? -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [[newbie] Macmillan Mandrake Books (was Mouse Driver screwup in KDE)]
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999,Jaguar wrote: | Would it be against the GPL or something for someone to offer THESE files for | d/l...ie: a personal FTP site or something??? | Jaguar Not against the GPL, but these e-books belong to Macmillan, so you'd have to have their permission, and I think that would be unlikely - at least for downloads or web posting - unless you want to pay them royalties or something. | | "Charles Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >Anyone happen to know if these are available online somewhere | > for my poor self to access? :) I've been using my work's T1 after | > hours to get additional resources (ie, aside from purchasing | > Mandrake, I downloaded it), so size isn't much of an issue. Thanks. | > | > --Charles | > | > > Sams Teach Yourself KDE 1.1 in 24 Hours | > > Sams Teach Yourself GIMP in 24 Hours | > > Sams Teach Yourself Linux in 24 Hours Second Edition | > > QUE Special Edition Using WordPerfect 8 for Linux | > > QUE Special Edition Using StarOffice 5.0 | > > QUE Special Edition Using Linux | > > Red Hat Linux 6 Unleashed | | | | Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. -- Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The measure of a man is in his honor ...
[newbie] E-Mail
Title: E-Mail ¡STOP! I'm receiving many e-mails that it's not for me (230 e-mails). I don´t know where is the problem, but they are blocking my e-mail server.
Re: [newbie] Linux Time Setting
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Hello List, > I have searched Tucows for a program such as Socket Watch or Clockwise > for Windows that will set the computer clock by an atomic clock each > time you connect to the internet. There is one for Gnome called System > Clock Detector but I want one for KDE. Any suggestions? > Thanks. > -- > Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA > Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first. I put ' alias rdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov" ' in 'bashrc'. All I have to do is type 'rdate' and the time and date are set correctly. -- .. Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A place for LinModems? [Long-OT] (was: Re: [newbie] modem configuration problem)
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999,Michael R. Batchelor wrote: | I'm not so sure this a good long term strategy. I agree that using a | $200 CPU to replace a .50 chip is pretty stupid, but some of the DSP | based software modems are very robust at call management in the MS | windows environment. | | At the risk of flames, let's think about the discussion that was raging | through here a few weeks ago about browsers. I made a strong point that | the browser and email client were crucial for maintaining a desktop | presence. I'll be willing to stick my neck on the line and make a | similar statement that the same is true for telephony applications. And | there are surly others I haven't thought through yet, all of which will | be "crucial" to the long term success of Mandrake as a desktop. | | But how can they all be "the one crucial app" you ask. Well, they're not | all the "single" crucial application (but I think the browser is | probably most important user application). The crucial application is | the whole system. If we think about an automobile for a minute I'll | explain. | | In an automobile the user expects to be able to use the "entire" package | upon delivery. But no individual piece of the package is suitable to the | drivers purpose, only the entire package. No automobile salesperson | would think of trying to get me to settle for only an engine or only a | transmission or only tires. None of those individual components is | sufficient to meet my transportation needs. Likewise, no salesperson is | going to try to convince me to accept a vehicle without an engine or | without a transmission or without tires. Each of those components is | necessary for the package to function as intended. | | These are the analogous parts for the browser and email client. Like it | or not, most of the millions of PCs which will be sold this holiday | season are for people to surf the net and exchange email. Neither is | sufficient; both are necessary. Period. That's life. Get over it. | | Now, lets go back to the automobile. As I'm standing on the lot looking | at the various items for sale, I notice that some of them have cute | little map lights and rear window defrosters. I decide I like those | touches, and I'm swayed by emotion rather than logic. The truth is I | almost never need the cute little map light and the rear window | defroster, but I buy then anyway. (OK they're crucial for some drivers, | but not most.) | | The call management functions of a WinModem will be available to about | 90% of those PCs sold this year, and almost nobody will ever use them. | I've personally bought 5-6 computers/modems with all that stuff in the | past few years and never turned any of it on. But I would guess that 10% | of the people who buy the stuff try to use the call management | functions, and perhaps 5% of the people who try it actually continue to | use it. So, in the long run, lets assume that 0.5% of the users actually | find the call management function useful, and everybody else abandons | it. So, do we say, "Well, nobody uses it in the long run, so we'll leave | it out." Or do we acknowledge that, "Despite that fact almost nobody is | going to use this, it's a major selling point on the front end. So we | need it, or we'll be shut out." | | Now, let's finally consider one more totally unnecessary option | available on modern automobiles. Back in the 1920's Cadillac developed | an "electric starter" for their vehicles. At that time it was an extreme | luxury. These days, however, you cannot buy a production automobile | without an electric starter. And if we started the "Mandrake Automobile | Company" making cars without electric starters we'd go out of business | fast. Even if we made astonishingly beautiful vehicles with map lights | and rear window defrosters, ordinary people will still flock to the | "inferior competitors" who have those convenient electric starters | instead of a crank. | | Well, the electric starter is the installer routines. And, while it's | true that Mandrake may be a far technically superior and elegant choice | to many of the other Linux distributions, and to that "other" OS, it's a | bitch for Grandpa to get set up compared to taking an HP Brio with Win98 | preinstalled out of the box from Wal-Mart. If anyone wants to help with | that aspect, I'd suggest that it's probably the most crucial hurdle to | overcome. (There is a group named SEUL - Simple End User Linux, | www.seul.org, but I don't much about them.) | | So, I've ranted enough. More OT comments? | | MB Michael, You have a point, and I agree that there is room for improvement - especially in the web-related software. However, we as new Linux users must remember that the Linux community is not a tightly organized one, and that the people who produce the software we are usi
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
Tom Jacobs wrote: > > My two cents: > > Being a brand new Linux user, I still wonder "hmmm why > do I have to mount my CDROM just to use it. Why can't > I just click on a picture or type d:\". > While I am no lover of M$ products in any way. Out of > the box, with no other knowledge of computers, > Winbloze wins hands down in the usability department. > I haven't had a chance to use KDE yet because I still > have to figure out how to get it to connect to my "X > server" and other such stuff. It's a learning curve > yeah, and I welcome the challenge. But even DOS's > command line is easier for a newbie to figure out. > I have yet to have Linux break on me, or hang even. > Being an experienced Winbloze troubleshooter makes me > yearn for something more stable. Here we have one good example of different opinions between people about usability. You are used to the Windows world of instlaling and trouble shooting. Know that world like the back of your hand and thus find it an easy way to "do business" so to say. I personally have not been very much involved with Windows installation in quite some time and because of this, I find the Linux way much easyer. When I think of a windows install, I think of about 4 hours sitting in front of a computer clicking buttons with a mouse, multiple rebooting session and crossing my fingers that it will work this time. Installing Linux on the other hand is for me like a walk in the park. OK. Now Ive got about 20-30 minutes installing to do. First, I enter som info, press the OK button and wait a while. Next I configure X (during install) and the I reboot. Up & running. Log in as root, add a user for myself, get sound to work (sndconfig), recompile the kernal. and that's it. Takes about 2 hours totally and I reboot twice. Network card is detected as is my graphicscard. > > Tom Jacobs > P.S. Is there an ls command that will allow the > directory contents to stop at the end of each page so > I can read them? ls -la --color | more. ls= list files -la list in long mode(user, group and a lot of other info) --color gives nice colours to the output depending on filetype. | <-- Pipe sign more prints one page at a time. I ususally add something like this to my .bashrc: alias d='ls -la --color |more". this lets me just type a 'd' to do the same as ls -la --color | more. /Jocke!
[newbie] Linux Time Setting
Hello List, I have searched Tucows for a program such as Socket Watch or Clockwise for Windows that will set the computer clock by an atomic clock each time you connect to the internet. There is one for Gnome called System Clock Detector but I want one for KDE. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
Re: [newbie] Kernel Update
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Dennis Robertson wrote: > > > Hello list, > > I have been absent during a re-install of L-M6.1 to try to cure my > > problem with kppp disabling my desktop. I decided to go for broke and > > updated the kernel etc with the Mandrake update function on the desktop. > > All went well except for some annoying unintended consequences. > > Firstly, it takes exactly one minute for sendmail to start in the boot > > process, compared to a blink of the eye in the old configuration. > > Anyone know how to speed this up? > > Make sure your ip/hostname are correct and functioning properly > > > Second, when I use the dreaded kppp I get : > > Error - This kernel has no PPP support, neither compiled in nor via the > > kernel module loader. To solve this problem see your system > > administrator (me) or install a kernel with PPP support. I click OK, > > the warning disappears and a fully functioning kppp panel appears. How > > do I fix it to get rid of the warning? > > I no longer have facilities to do ppp testing :( > > > Third, I installed the mount update which is supposed to solve the > > floppy mounting problem, but it doesn't. I had to amend /etc/fstab to > > read: > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,noauto,rw,exec 0 0 > > and it works. > > I'm not familiar with the bug in question, but it stands to reason one > need manualy update fstab (we avoid this as much as posible) > > > Last question. How do I create a boot disk for the new kernel? The > > install CD wouldn't let me. Do I amend the old boot disk or, since I > > have kept the old kernel, add the new kernel to the old boot disk? > > Thanks for any help. > > man mkbootdisk, > > mkbootdisk `uname -r` > > -- > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > --Axalon Hello Axalon, Thanks for your input. I arbitarily changed the hostname and it corrected the sendmail problem. Why the new kernel would have changed an area of linuxconf that I have not dared to enter I don't know. Also I read man mkbootdisk and through trial and error rather than clear assistance I entered: mkbootdisk --device /dev/floppy 2.2.13-22mdk and it worked. Each time I made an error I got a clue about what to try next. Better than Riven! Surely it is possible to write a floppy mounting program that works? If you are not familiar with the problem try an install of L-M6.1 and then try to mount msdos and ext2 floppies. The default Fstab floppy entry is far removed from what is required. As for kppp, surely it would feature largely in a linux site to rival the Windows 98 Annoyances site. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
Re: [newbie] Brand new newbie seeks help.
Glad to have been some help Jeanette - Original Message - From: Tom Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Brand new newbie seeks help. > > Thank you Jeanette, > Your page is an excellent source of information. > I really like the one page linux manual. > Thanks again, > Tom > --- Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suggest you try my web page I have posted a lot > > of Links for these > > resources. You won't have to buy anything. > > > > http://www.stormloader.com/jrusso2/index.html > > > > > > Jeanette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't have to BUY a book but you might want to > > consider reading > > > through some of the freely available electronic > > documentation. I believe > > > there's an html copy of the Mandrake user/install > > guide on the CD, and > > > there's plenty of documentation on the web. It's > > good to read through > > > some beginner guides to get yourself familiar with > > the basics of working > > > with Linux. :) > > > > > > > How the hell do I access the floppy and cdrom > > after > > > > they have been mounted? (By the way discovering > > that > > > > I have to mount hardware to use it took a long > > time to > > > > figure out.) > > > > > > The floppy and cdrom drives are accessed through > > the directories they were > > > mounted under. Assuming you're using default > > settings, you're floppy > > > drive is mounted under /mnt/floppy and cdrom drive > > is mounted under > > > /mnt/cdrom. > > > > > > -Tom > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com >
[newbie] G2 Player - What's up with improving the Linux version?
I can't get any info from Real. Do you guys know if Real is placing any kind of priority on improving the lame beta version of G2 player? Otherwise, are there any Linux players that can play Real streaming? Seve
Re: [newbie] install bug?
logged on as root, i get permission denied. i'll make it easier for the both of us. i'll go on back to 6.0 and work away my "newbie"ness. in the meantime, if you have that proverbial light go off inside your head about my particular problem, feel free to post it. i'll be lurking & learning. Thanks for all your help.Ken Steve Philp wrote: > > touco wrote: > > > > yes, and in many different combinations of resolution and color modes. > > maybe it's the combination of card and monitor that i have. you said > > that you're using a 17" Komodo. are you also running mandrake 6.5? as > > i said, i had no problems running 6.0 with the same hardware. ;) > > Actually, I'm running Red Hat 6.1/Professional on this machine. I _did_ > run Mandrake 6.5 on the machine for a few weeks, but gave it up because > of the frequent and numerous problems with it. After submitting > numerous bug reports and having all but one ignored, I gave it up for > greener pastures. > > Post your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and I'm sure we can get something > worked out so you can run X. > > > > Steve Philp wrote: > > > > > > touco wrote: > > > > > > > > my video card is a trident 3dimage975 agp > > > > > > > > i have these two options in manual install: > > > > > > > > when writing to /etc/X11/xf86Config i get a "explicit kill" message. > > > > > > > > when writing to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xf86Config i get: > > > > Vertical Refresh Rate Expected > > > > > > It looks like there's information missing from /etc/X11/XF86Config. > > > Have you tried running Xsetup again to rewrite the file? > > > > > > > Steve Philp wrote: > > > > > > > > > > touco wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > i've done it everywhichway but loose > > > > > > video card is listed and i know the memory. i had the same hardware > > > > > > running on mandrake 6.0. i tried to xf86config the resolutions and all > > > > > > but it still gives me an "error Config: 302" > > > > > > > > > > What video card? Maybe you could post your XF86Config file? > > > > > > > > > > > maybe my Komodo monitor just plain and simple isn't compatible with 6.5. > > > > > > if i go back to 6.0 i'll still have my hand's full with an os better > > > > > > than windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > ever hear of BeOS? Just kidding > > > > > > > > > > The Komodo monitors work with Mandrake without problems. I've got their > > > > > 17" model here. > > -- > Steve Philp > Network Administrator > Advance Packaging Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Before I start?
Hello all, I have just about all the parts together now, to start building my new computer. I already mentioned that I'll be using the Abit-BE-II, with HPC-366. So, with aside I've got 2 drives to work with. Quantum fireball ka drives .. one 9.5 gig and one 18 .gig. (My first homebrew computer.) I have to install WinNintyHate, so I've been giving this some thought. A friend of mine installs win98 in 2 partitions, where most of the programs are in the second and win98 itself in the first. Better off in a crash situation he says. Well anyway, I have to large drives and I want to install both OS's. How is the best way to go about it? I don't really want to go through all the work of installing linux in my hpc-366 situation, to have Win98 blow it up on me when it installs. Which OS first? I would like to get some input from you folks here in the list on how to do it the right way the first time? I plan to put Linux and I suppose win98 on the 18 gig drive. Also, I plan to give Linux atleast 8 Gig or more. (BTW - I have Linux Mandrake - 6.1 Power pack) Your thoughts on this and Thanks in advance! Mark Fitzgerald mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] figured it out... different problem now...
Joelfirst make a small partition of 16-24 megs and make its mountpoint /boot. Then make a swap file (size depending on your ram, but no bigger than 124 megs). After that make your / partition and any others that you deem appropriate. Alan Joel Sinclair wrote: > > Hey again all... > > New problem, I have gotten into Disk Druid (finally! ;)) and now it wont > assign the root partition because it says that "the boot partition is too > large?" > > I believe this has something to do with it being over 1024 cylinders.. or > perhaps it is because of a Fat32 partition being in the way I can't get > rid of the Windoze partition, so I need to figure out a way around this... I > know it's a pretty common problem... > [CLIP] > > Good Luck! > > Joel Sinclair > Senior Developer > > MEDIA DOG PRODUCTIONS INC. > http://www.mediadog.net > 1-888-696- (Toll free in Canada) > 1-403-245-4939
Re: [newbie] Update
TomI've never had that happen to me, but if the downloads really took place then the rpms will be in the /tmp directory and you should be able to install them from there. Alan Tom Poturica wrote: > > I took someones advice to use the tool on the KDE desktop to update Mandrake. > I selected all and said GO. It showed all the modules being downloaded and the > percent complete but when I expected that the Install would happen, the screen > disapeared and nothing further happened. Is there another process that needs > to be run to then install? It gave me the impression that it would Download > then install. > > Tom E. Poturica > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] GAIM
KeithI just fired my copy of GAIM up (hadn't used it in a month or so) and it connected right up. Odd thing was I no longer had a buddy list and so had to re-make it. No problem, one of the folks in my newly created list was on-line and I connected just fine. Alan Keith Robinson wrote: > > For about 24 hrs my GAIM is not working. the only message I get is > 'Authentication failed.' > > I even tried the java client at the AOL Web-site and > get a "wrong password" message (and it is definitely the right pw.) > when i switch to Win98 the AOL IM works fine -- same login, same pw. > > anyone know if AOL is blocking non AIM clients from reaching their server? > > -- > Keith Robinson
Re: [Re: [newbie] MSIE when?]
Tom Jacobs wrote: > > My two cents: > > Being a brand new Linux user, I still wonder "hmmm why > do I have to mount my CDROM just to use it. Why can't > I just click on a picture or type d:\". > While I am no lover of M$ products in any way. Out of > the box, with no other knowledge of computers, > Winbloze wins hands down in the usability department. > I haven't had a chance to use KDE yet because I still > have to figure out how to get it to connect to my "X > server" and other such stuff. It's a learning curve > yeah, and I welcome the challenge. But even DOS's > command line is easier for a newbie to figure out. > I have yet to have Linux break on me, or hang even. > Being an experienced Winbloze troubleshooter makes me > yearn for something more stable. > > Tom Jacobs > P.S. Is there an ls command that will allow the > directory contents to stop at the end of each page so > I can read them? Tomjust like in dos you need to append | more to the command to pipe the output through the more filter like: ls -l | more Alan
