[newbie] Netscape 4.7

[Troy Warren]

Need some help getting connected to the internet with Netscape, version
4.7 that came with Linux Mandrake 7.0. When I start Netscape from the
KDE desktop it starts okay but no connect window. I put my ISP and mail
stuff in but no go. I can connect to my ISP (freewwweb.com) with KPPP.
My modem is a USR on com1. Any help would be appreciated.
Troy

Re: [newbie] High failure rate tar.gz

[Oliver L. Plaine Jr.]

On Thu, 18 May 2000 10:48:58 -0400, Ron wrote:

>I have had the same problem
>if you dwonloaded them with netscape try to
>tar xvf without the z
>this has worked for me in the past
==
Thu, 18 May 2000  20:54:47

Thanks John..Alex...and Ron..for taking the time to help

I ran the trick without the z and I renamed the file from
tar.gz to .html , I am not sure which did it, but I opened midnight
commander and noticed a folder had been created...one of the two
procedures worked.

The grokking the gimp book opens nicely and is quite a good
piece of work, I can't wait to read it through.

This 29+meg file was the one I was worried about as another
three hour download was not a pleasant thought 8-).  I will try the
smaller files tomorrow.

thanks again for the pointers, as always I learned something new.

Olly P
Biloxi
Mississippi

Re: [newbie] Error when running LILO

[Phil Murphy]

This is my lilo.conf file after moving the windows label to the top. I
notice mine is missing default= and 
install=boot.b  I'll try default=windows and see if that helps.

#This file has been generated by KLILO
boot=/dev/hda
read-only
prompt
timeout=100
vga=normal

other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda

image=/boot/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hda3
label=linux
append

other=/dev/hdb1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda

other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
table=/dev/hda

> I'd have to look at your lilo.conf file to be sure, but maybe your windows 
>section is pointing to  something that doesn't exist.  I've attached mine for you to 
>take a look at.  Mine defaults to linux, but to make it default to windows I just 
>change the "default=" line to "default=windows" which is the label for my windows 
>setion.  I'm guessing you set your windows section up like a linux section and boot.b 
>does not exist on a windows boot partition.
> 
> John
> -- Original Message --
> From: Phil Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:30:06 -0700
> 
> >I've edited my /etc/lilo.conf file to default to windows (easier for my
> >children to access their programs) but when I run lilo I get:
> >
> >open /boot/boot.b: No such file or directory
> >
> >lilo -q returns:
> >
> >open /boot/map: No such file or directory
> >
> >Any ideas why? My changes will not take effect otherwise.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Phil
> >
> >
> 
>   
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=windows
> table=/dev/hda
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hdb1
> append="hdd=ide-scsi parport=auto idebus=33"
> read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.3.99-pre7
> label=linuxold
> root=/dev/hdb1
> append="hdd=ide-scsi parport=auto idebus=33"
> read-only
> other=/dev/fd0
> label=floppy
> unsafe

Re: [newbie] Nomail-info

[Mogens Jæger]

Paul wrote:

> On Wed, 17 May 2000, Denis HAVLIK wrote:
>
> >well, you will not (unles you like reading 2000 mesages) if you set your
> >reception to "nomail". Send sympa a message:
> >
> >set newbie nomail
> >
> >When you come back, send it "set newbie mail" to start receiving mail
> >again. Third possibility is "set reception digest" for... digest.
>
> Great, thanks! I need this in June! :)
> Paul
>

Who is 'sympa'?
Mogens Jæger

Re: [newbie] staroffice as user

[Mogens Jæger]

David Olsson wrote:

> I installed staroffice as root, now I cant access staroffice
> as user.
> How do I do?
>
> David in Sweden

Hey David
You will have to install it 'again' when you are logged in as user.
Mogens Jæger

Re: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED:-[newbie] Purcahsing a copy of Linux-Mandrakeversion 7.0 in Australia.

[Fran Parker]

Got mine from http://www.lsl.com
:)
Bambi

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi All,
>  My local electronics retailer says they can't get copies of
> Linux-Mandrake version 7.0 from O/S. Does anyone know a web site where you could
> purchase a copy on the internet?
>
>  Thanks Marco Mastrocinque.

Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[Alan Shoemaker]

Wadeyou have booted your system the pre-set amount of
times that triggers the check.  It is normal.

Alan


Wade wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
> 
> /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
> mount count check forced
> 
> ???
> What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
> 
> After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
> running smoothly, but
> I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
> future.
> 
> Much thanks,
> 
> b/web
> Wade
> 
> PS - Thanks for you help with my list subscription Denis!

Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[flupke]

Do you believe me if I say that it's because you mounted your HD the
maximal number of time before an automatic e2fsck? :-)

Don't panic. It's normal. It will do that each time your HD has been
mounted a certain number of time. (I don't know how many)

If this annoys you, well... Don't turn off your comp. :-)

HTH
Flupke

On Thu, 18 May 2000, Wade wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
> 
> /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
> mount count check forced
> 
> ???
> What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
> 
> After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
> running smoothly, but
> I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
> future.
> 
> Much thanks,
> 
> b/web
> Wade
> 
> PS - Thanks for you help with my list subscription Denis!
> 
> 

AW: [newbie] staroffice as user

[Christian Mathes]

Dear David,

I had the same problem. You have to install SO as ordinary user, and
everything works fine.

With kind regards

Christian

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: David Olsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2000 16:15
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: [newbie] staroffice as user

I installed staroffice as root, now I cant access staroffice
as user.
How do I do?

David in Sweden

Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[Hellmut]

Hi Wade!

You haven't done anything, after a certain times of booting (You can
change it somewhere, but I forgot where) Linux checks it's partitions if
they're still okay. Don't be afraid, you did nothing wrong anbd your
system is just maintaining itself.

Bye!



> During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
>
> /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
> mount count check forced
>
> ???
> What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
>
> After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
> running smoothly, but
> I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
> future.
>
> Much thanks,
>
> b/web
> Wade
>
> PS - Thanks for you help with my list subscription Denis!

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Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[Aaron Zuercher]

Wade,

Linux keeps track of how many times you mount a filesystem, and after a 
certain number (not sure how many)  It fscks the drive.  Its is 
preventative maintenance and nothing to be worried about.

Aaron



At 08:39 AM 5/18/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
>
>/dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
>mount count check forced
>
>???
>What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
>
>After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
>running smoothly, but
>I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
>future.
>
>Much thanks,
>
>b/web
>Wade
>
>PS - Thanks for you help with my list subscription Denis!

[newbie] Why is turnaround so slow on this mail list?

[Aaron Zuercher]

I send a message and it doesn't appear in my inbox for hours, sometimes a 
day later.  Some mail lists have 5 min. turnaround... whats the deal?

Also, is there a mandrake IRC channel?  If not, I might consider starting 
one, but would like to know the interest level in the group.  Let me know.

Aaron

Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[Andy]

Form what i have heard is after you restart or shutdown your comp so many
times it runs it to do check up. Ive had it happen to nothing to be
concerned about. I think :)
- Original Message -
From: Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count


> Hi List,
>
> During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
>
> /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
> mount count check forced
>
> ???
> What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
>
> After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
> running smoothly, but
> I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
> future.
>
> Much thanks,
>
> b/web
> Wade
>
> PS - Thanks for you help with my list subscription Denis!
>
>

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Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[poogle]

Happens to me quite regularly, seem to recall somone posted a similar question
and the reply was  that it is something that happens after certain number of
boot ups and is nothing to worry about, I don't worry i just wait until it's
finished and then carry on


On Thu, 18 May 2000, you wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
> 
> /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
> mount count check forced
> 
> ???
> What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
> 
> After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
> running smoothly, but
> I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
> future.
> 
> Much thanks,
> 
> b/web
> Wade
> 
> PS - Thanks for you help with my list subscription Denis!
-- 
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Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[Anthony Huereca]

That's a normal occurence. It happens after you reboot a certain number of
times. It's just done to make sure nothing is wrong with your filesystem. So
don't worry about it if it comes up.

> During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
> 
> /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
> mount count check forced
> 
> ???
> What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
> 
> After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
> running smoothly, but
> I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
> future.
> 

-- 
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 

[newbie] PCMCIA Network Probs

[karekin]

Hi Gang:

Any help on this one would be appreciated...

I have a PCMCIA NetGear ethernet card in my laptop. I get the famed "Delaying
eth0 initialization [failed]" error during startup, even though my pcmcia
modules all appear to load properly when checked with lsmod. I have configured
my network with DrakX and still no luck reaching my it. I have even checked my
settings against my desktop linux machine that has no problem reaching the
network.

I have the following info:

hostname: foo
host address: xxx.xxx.xxx.x
domain name: mydomain.net
domain IP: xxx.xx.xx.xx
router address: 192.168.100.1
gateway 255.255.255.0

All appears to be in the correct place.

How do I get this laptop to see my network?

KM

[newbie] how to kill a runaway app?

[Wade]

Hi List,

I have found an occasion or two to use the 'Ctrl, Alt, Backspace'
command a couple of times which has been a saving grace, but I have only
had a need to kill a runaway (unresponsive) app, rather than my xserver.
My question, is there a way to kill an app and not restart my xserver?
Also would this apply to a runaway process as well? 

Thanks,

b/web
Wade

Re: [newbie] printer HP deskjesct 930C

[Charles A Edwards]

   Almost all HP printers will work in Linux. If you have not done so
already use Printer Config. and in turn pick each HP DeskJet listed, try to
print a test page, continue untill you find one that will print.
I should have said this first. Be sure your printer is connected via
parrallel port and not USB.
USB  connected printers will not have support until 7.2
is released unless you are foolhardy enough to use the beta version.
   Before someone fires back I am not saying anyone who uses the beta is
being foolish. I Am saying that beginners should not use it and that
includes me as well as most others on this list.

   Charles



- Original Message -
From: "Oder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:28 AM
Subject: [newbie] printer HP deskjesct 930C


> Has anyone managed to get one of this printer working under Mandrake
> 7.02 (usb or parallel). Thanks in advance for any advice, Oder.
>
>

[newbie] Installing Zip drive on Mandrake 6

[mcoady]

Any instructions I read about getting my IDE ATAPI Zip drive up and running,
keep referring to a /usr/src/linux directory from within which I'm supposed to
make some module change to the kernel.
Problem is that there is no such directory.
Any suggestions much appreciated.
 
Michael Coady.

Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[Paul]

On Thu, 18 May 2000, Wade wrote:

>During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
>
>/dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
>mount count check forced
>
>???
>What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?

You have booted Linux often enough to make this automatic disk check kick
in. Windowze only checks the disk when something appears wrong. Linux
keeps track of the number of boots and then always checks the disk. I
don't know if this is something you can avoid, but I know I don't want to
avoid it. Better to check a bit more often than to be sorry!
Paul

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Re: [newbie] reaching maximal mount count

[Nickolay Belostotsky]

> Hi List,
>
> During boot up this morning I saw a new message that said;
>
> /dev/hda5 has reached maximal mount count
> mount count check forced
>
> ???
> What have I done to generate this 'mount count check'?
>
> After running through the mount count check all seems to be well and
> running smoothly, but
> I just want to know how I caused this and how I prevent it in the
> future.

I think you didn't go wrong anywhere. It's just that Linux counts how many
times it did mount your hard drive, and, after reaching some number (didn't
count, maybe someone knows), it just checks it, to ensure no problems
escaped its eye. Just a profilatics. Don't worry.

(Hope I'm right explaining this :-)

Thanks,

  -- Koly

Re: [newbie] once again: ISDN setup

[nodyak0]

Apologize for the late response, I think that 'profile' is either a user
name or something you will have to setup on your system so you can create
the files that are 'myisp' and 'mycard'.  Those will be to identify your
ISP and your CARD for your ISDN.
I am also a newby and am just guessing, Denis is this in the correct
ballpark?

don
I thought I knew that I knew what I thought
But now I know that what I thought I knew
Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.


On Mon, 15 May 2000 22:28:22 +0200 "Christian Mathes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Hi folks,
> 
> First I would like to thank all who tried to help me with my ISDN
> configuration.
> 
> I think the easiest to understand solution is offered in the online 
> manual
> 
> at www.mandrakeuser.org
> 
> According to this manualI have to edit these files:
> 
> '/etc/isdn/profile/link/myisp', your dial-up profile
> '/etc/isdn/profile/card/mycard', your hardware profile
> '/etc/ppp/pap-secrets' or '/etc/ppp/chap-secrets', your password 
> file
> '/etc/resolv.conf', the DNS data file
> '/etc/rc.d/rc.local', your start-up batch file
> '/etc/isdn/profile/link/myisp'
> 
> My problem is that I can't find these files.There is no directory
> 
> /isdn/profile on my PC.
> 
> How shall I continue now?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Mathes
> 


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Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)

[Anthony Huereca]

I like Gnome w/ Enlighenment the best. I've tried them all at least once, and
Gnome seems to be the best for me. 


> 
> Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
> WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
> proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
> 


-- 
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 

Re: [newbie] Network configuration

[Paul]

On Wed, 17 May 2000, Gilles Lahaie wrote:

This comes back twice a week, I think.
A fix should be at www.3com.com (or something. I only have Realtek cards)

Paul

>Hi there.
>
>My computer has 2 ethernet cards.
>
>One is an Realtek PCI, the other is a 3Com Etherlink III - 3059B. (the two cards are 
>PNP, by the way.)
>
>When I have installed Mandrake 7.0, the installation found the Realtek PCI but it did 
>not find the 3Com.
>
>What can I do
>
>Is there a way to force Linux Mandrake 7.0 to "see" the Etherlink III (which is used 
>for my network, the Realtek being connected to a cable modem.)?
>
>Thank you to all
>
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Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)

[Andy]

I use blackbox it is great! Nice and fast loading 
up.Plus my monitor and video card cant take a lot of graphics and 
color.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:12 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Window 
  manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)
  Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" 
  ie. WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its proponents. 
  I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .   -- 
  -michael brower-
   "Dancing with Penguins"
Registered Linux User #175480  

[newbie] Osbornes etc

[Paul]

On Wed, 17 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>My tan case Osborne was the first of a new type of computer: the 
>luggable.  I'm glad that luggable has gone out of common usage.  -Gary-

Hahaha!! They did make you strong though!!
You could tell if someone had an Osborne by seeing their arms!!

Paul

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Re: [newbie] staroffice as user

[Paul]

On Thu, 18 May 2000, David Olsson wrote:

>I installed staroffice as root, now I cant access staroffice
>as user. 
>How do I do?
>
>David in Sweden

Locate the binary that starts StarOffice (so51 or something, in a 'bin'
directory of the staroffice install, if I remember correctly), and do a

chmod u+x 

on it. I think that should do it.

Paul

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Re: re. [newbie] StarOffice & Mandrake7

[Paul]

On Wed, 17 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>configuring sound.  Lothar or sndconfig both error out with an error in an 
>isapnp call.  "Don't know what to do with (lines?) 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, or 
>15 on or about line 453."  "/etc/isapnp.conf:453 -- fatal  no action 
>taken"   And that file shows failed on next boot.  This if for a SoundBlaster 
>AWE64.  I have more research to do.  -Gary-

Strange thing. I have an SB Awe 64 Value, and that works fine. I can't
help you with the isapnp thing. I looked at it and it leaves me quite
confused. Only thing that I can do is assure that it can work.

Good luck,
Paul

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Re: [newbie] key-repeat delay

[Paul]

On Thu, 18 May 2000, bill wrote:

>Hi,
>Is there a way to set the key-repeat delay from within mdk7.0? I have it
>set to the minimum (250ms) in the bios, but get about 1 sec delay in
>linux.  I do get the short delay in windoze.
>Thanks
>Bill

In KDE I can only find key repeat ON and OFF. No setting for a speed. When
I press a key, it is delaying just a fraction of a second before it starts
repeating, and I did not do anything to the BIOS for that.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)

[Paul]

On Wed, 17 May 2000, Michael wrote:

>Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
>WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
>proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .

This is like asking what the best car is.

If you want a simple, light, stable environment, use Windowmaker.
If you want something very pretty so see, lots of colors and gadgets, use
Gnome.
If you want something real solid, use KDE.
Just about anything runs in everything, is my idea, as long as the right
supporting libs are installed.

Paul

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[newbie] Problems with enabling Mac Os taskbar to top of page under user

[Romanator]

Hi,

Every time I place a check mark in the KDE Control Panel to enable the
task bar at the top of the page, and click on the Apply and OK buttons,
it comes up briefly. After exiting the KDE Control Panel, the Mac OS
task bar is unchecked again. It works under 'root' but not under usr.
Am I missing a command?

Roman

Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....

[nodyak0]

Just thought this may give you some info, you may know already, when LiLo
boots up all files are set to READ ONLY until boot is completed.  This
may be what you are seeing flash on the screen.  I have installed
Linux/ManDrake 7.0 Complete about 12 times, trying out different installs
to see which was good for me.  Have not had any problems except where I
have made errors in my choices.  I have a locally put together CPU AMD K6
II 350meg 32m RAM 3D Sound/w modem & video on the MOBO.  My modem is a
Barfmodem, have not been on the NET with Linux yet.  Have not given up. 
You may have a problem with some part of your H/W check it out very
carefully then try it again.  Just for your info I have been working on a
Packard 'Barf' Bell that has had a H/D problem, Conner CFA850A (850m)
H/D, died the other day and am attempting to recover the software if
possible.  I have a friend that works on CPU's for living that has 13 1.2
gig Conner H/D's that have died on peoples CPU's he has repaired, I hope
your H/D is NOT a Conner.

My $3.01 worth,

don
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But now I know that what I thought I knew
Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.


On Sun, 14 May 2000 09:32:51 -0700 X Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Thanks JD. I haven't quite decided what to do yet. I feel kind of 
> like a 
> guy who's house just got wiped out by a tornado, and still picking 
> through 
> the debris trying to figure out what the hell happened. What you 
> said about 
> not being able to mount in read/write mode reminds me of something I 
> saw 
> flash on the screen early in the boot process. I was paying extra 
> close 
> attention to everything at bootup after this happened, and so I'm 
> not sure 
> if it was new or not, but I saw something about read-only. It was 
> only on 
> the screen for like a split second. I'll try it again and see if I 
> can 
> catch anything more.
> 
> 
> At 03:25 PM 05/14/2000 +, you wrote:
> >i'm sorry you have to go.  i had a similar problem, but my 
> harddrive 
> >wouldn't remount in read/write mode.  so i basically had a 
> harddirive that 
> >i could only read off of.  the only answer i could get where things 
> like 
> >edit the fstab file, etc.  but i couldn't cause it was a read only 
> >hd.  finally after a week of spending a least 3 hours a day, i gave 
> up and 
> >reinstalled.
> >unfortunatly, that was about a month ago, and this weekend was the 
> first 
> >chance i've had to play around and set up mandrake.  if you decide 
> that 
> >mandrake is worth one more try, great.  but if you decide not, 
> we're sorry 
> >to lose ya.
> >good luck
> >jd
> >
> >
> >>From: X Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: [newbie] No more Mandrake.
> >>Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:39:54 -0700
> >>
> >>I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. 
> Everything
> >>is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing 
> with
> >>Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent 
> reason the
> >>browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't 
> close. So
> >>I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the 
> desktop
> >>icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they 
> would
> >>normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens 
> from time
> >>to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just 
> came up
> >>and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I 
> manually
> >>rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have 
> been
> >>every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just 
> delay the
> >>boot process slightly. But then something different popped up:
> >>"/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. 
> /dev/hda5:
> >>inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then:
> >>"/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without 
> -a or -p
> >>options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error 
> occurred
> >>during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system 
> will
> >>reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for 
> maintenance or
> >>ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it 
> said,
> >>"BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for 
> about 5 or
> >>6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck 
> version
> >>1.14...".
> >>
> >>I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I 
> tried the
> >>ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it 
> rebooted I
> >>saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." 
> but it
> >>scrolled too fast to make out the whole message.
> >>
> >>It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things 
> to
> >>finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had 

Re: [newbie] modifying multiple image settings in /etc/lilo.conf

[Rial Juan]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that, you can set a "default" line in there, and a
"timeout" line as well, so that after the specified timeout it starts up the
default image.

In my example it defaults to the "test" image, after a timeout of 50 (seconds I
believe). But if I want to boot the mandrake secure kernel, I can just type in
"secure" at the lilo prompt. And yes, changes are made as root, and don't forget
to run lilo afterwards.

Good luck.

On May 18 Romanator wrote:

> Hello Rial,
> 
> When you have many image sections in your /etc/lilo.conf, do you have to
> type in a specific command? 
> That is, do you have to type anything other than Linux at your boot
> prompt? Or. is their another switch to use for another image?
> I assume that you do all of your changes at ' root '...
> 
> Roman
> 
> Rial Juan wrote:
> > 
> > On May 16 Romanator wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > How do you access 'Console Mode' from within X windows?
> > 
> > You don't have to be in real console mode; an xterm will do just fine. If you
> > really want console mode, press CTRL-ALT-F1 for the first console (CTRL-ALT-2
> > for the second and so on...)
> > 
> > > In addition, can I review and make modifications from the desktop i.e.
> > > checking my RAM. I think the command line is:  /sbin/lilo.conf
> > 
> > If you want to check your ram, type the following line in console or xterm
> >   free
> > To modify lilo options, edit the file /etc/lilo.conf with an ascii-editor. To
> > activate the changes, in console or xterm type "lilo", as root.
> > 
> > > Should this be done from ' root ' ?
> > 
> > Due to file permissions only root can edit /etc/lilo.conf, and only root can
> > activate lilo options.
> > 
> > > I have an IDE drive. Should I type in:
> > > append=hda=ide_scsi mem=128M
> > 
> > If it's a harddisk, I don't think it's necessary. The only reason you want to
> > use ide-scsi mode would be to be able to write on a cdr or cdrw drive, and
> > perhaps it's nice to have your regular cdrom work in ide-scsi mode as well, if
> > some application demands it. the only app I ever encountered that didn't want to
> > read from atapi-cdroms was xcdroast.
> > 
> > Anyway, the line you were looking for is:
> >   append="hda=ide-scsi mem=128M"
> >  ^   ^ ^
> > 
> > But I'd drop the 'hda=ide-scsi' part. Not necessary, and probably even
> > dangerous.
> > 
> > If you're smart, you add another image-section to your /etc/lilo.conf, and leave
> > the old one alone. This way you can test new settings on the new kernel image,
> > without modifying your old config, and thus making it impossible to boot if you
> > screw up. As an example, I'll paste my /etc/lilo.conf below. Notice how I test
> > all new kernels, and all new lilo settings on the "test" image.
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > vga=0x030C
> > default=test
> > keytable=/boot/be-latin1.klt
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > message=/boot/message
> > 
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz-test
> > label=test
> > root=/dev/hda6
> > append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hda6
> > append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-15mdksecure
> > label=secure
> > root=/dev/hda6
> > append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux-up
> > root=/dev/hda6
> > append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> > other=/dev/hda2
> > label=dos
> > table=/dev/hda
> > other=/dev/fd0
> > label=floppy
> > unsafe
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Rial Juan
> > e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533
> > ulyssis system admininstrator   
> > 
> > The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly.
> > That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
> > Help bring us more Linux Drivers
> 

-- 

Rial Juan
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533
ulyssis system admininstrator   

The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly.
That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...



Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
Help bring us more Linux Drivers

[newbie] KFM not running

[Romanator]

I am also running into problems. I have tried and tried, and I cannot
log on to Netscape in Linux. I keep get messages about the server not
recognized - 'check server name and restart Netscape'. I am using all of
the IP address supplied by provider.

It could be a syntax error. Sorry I could not help. I'm sure there are
experts out there.

Roman
(A little penguin has confused me - temporarily)
Registered Linux User - NIF2733

PS. Hey why is my number so different?

Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is this a problem others have had???
> 
> Whenever I connect to the internet I can not use anything else.
> Therefore I have to open Kppp, Kmail and anything else I may need
> before I connect.  If I want to open something, (home directory, Terminal
> emulator, Licq etc) whilst surfing I'm stuffed nothing happens after I click.
> I've tried re-installing MD7 again but with no luck. MD6.1 worked fine.
> 
> When switching back to the command line I read "KFM not running."
> 
> Any suggestions.
> 
> --
> Andrew
> Blackburn
> England
> - In the pursuit of knowledge,
>Everyday something is aquired.
>(Lao Tzu - Tao Te Ching)

Re: [newbie] staroffice as user

[Brian Tompkins]

On Thu, 18 May 2000, you wrote:
> I installed staroffice as root, now I cant access staroffice
> as user. 
> How do I do?
> 
> David in Sweden

Well it's a snap really - 1. log in as user  2. open console  3. type the
following:/opt/Office51/bin/setup 4. smile as the install script
does it's thing.

See ya.
BT

Re: [newbie] KFM not running.

[Romanator]

I am also running into problems. I have tried and tried, and I cannot
log on to Netscape in Linux. I keep get messages about the server not
recognized - 'check server name and restart Netscape. I am using all of
the IP address supplied by provider.

I could be a syntax error.

Roman
(A little penguin has confused me - temporarily)
Registered Linux User - NIF2733

PS. Hey why is my number so different?

Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is this a problem others have had???
> 
> Whenever I connect to the internet I can not use anything else.
> Therefore I have to open Kppp, Kmail and anything else I may need
> before I connect.  If I want to open something, (home directory, Terminal
> emulator, Licq etc) whilst surfing I'm stuffed nothing happens after I click.
> I've tried re-installing MD7 again but with no luck. MD6.1 worked fine.
> 
> When switching back to the command line I read "KFM not running."
> 
> Any suggestions.
> 
> --
> Andrew
> Blackburn
> England
> - In the pursuit of knowledge,
>Everyday something is aquired.
>(Lao Tzu - Tao Te Ching)

Re: [newbie] Nomail-info

[poogle]

I'll need to do this at some point, can you explain it in a bit more detail
please ?

On Thu, 18 May 2000, you wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2000, Denis HAVLIK wrote:
> 
> >well, you will not (unles you like reading 2000 mesages) if you set your
> >reception to "nomail". Send sympa a message:
> >
> >set newbie nomail
> >
> >When you come back, send it "set newbie mail" to start receiving mail
> >again. Third possibility is "set reception digest" for... digest.
> 
> Great, thanks! I need this in June! :)
> Paul
> 
> )0(---)0(
> 
> 2nd Law of Tests: 80% of the final will be on the one
> lecture you missed about the one book you didn't read.
> 
> )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0(
> http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208
> Registered Linux User 174403
-- 

Re: [[newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)]

[Romanator]

I agree. There is so much information to take in. However, I think that
we should still encourage newbie Linux users (such as myself) to try
them all.

Roman

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I think KDE is the best for newbie's who are just trying
> to learn linux with a win look and feel.  But I use Black
> box because it faster.
> 
> Mike
> 
> > Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
> > > WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
> > > proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >   -michael brower-
> > >"Dancing with Penguins"
> > > Registered Linux User #175480
> > ===
> > On both my laptop (PII 233 w/96M RAM; COL 2.2) and my desktop at work (PIII
> > 450 w/192M RAM Mandrake 6.1) I use KDE.  Been using it on that laptop for over
> > a year now.  It's what I'm accustomed to.  I've never even tried the others.
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~
> > "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
> >   --Tom Waits ~~~
> >
> > 
> > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
>http://webmail.netscape.com.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Get your own free email account from
> http://www.popmail.com

Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)

[poogle]

I use KDE on my PC because I like the look and feel of it, but I use
enlightenment on my laptop because it uses less memory and  you can access both
Gnome & KDE apps from it
--
John (how can I get my brain to automount at bootime ?)

On Thu, 18 May 2000, you wrote:
> 
> Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
> WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
> proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
> 
> 
> --
>   -michael brower-
>"Dancing with Penguins"
> Registered Linux User #175480
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] modifying multiple image settings in /etc/lilo.conf

[Romanator]

Hello Rial,

When you have many image sections in your /etc/lilo.conf, do you have to
type in a specific command? 
That is, do you have to type anything other than Linux at your boot
prompt? Or. is their another switch to use for another image?
I assume that you do all of your changes at ' root '...

Roman

Rial Juan wrote:
> 
> On May 16 Romanator wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > How do you access 'Console Mode' from within X windows?
> 
> You don't have to be in real console mode; an xterm will do just fine. If you
> really want console mode, press CTRL-ALT-F1 for the first console (CTRL-ALT-2
> for the second and so on...)
> 
> > In addition, can I review and make modifications from the desktop i.e.
> > checking my RAM. I think the command line is:  /sbin/lilo.conf
> 
> If you want to check your ram, type the following line in console or xterm
>   free
> To modify lilo options, edit the file /etc/lilo.conf with an ascii-editor. To
> activate the changes, in console or xterm type "lilo", as root.
> 
> > Should this be done from ' root ' ?
> 
> Due to file permissions only root can edit /etc/lilo.conf, and only root can
> activate lilo options.
> 
> > I have an IDE drive. Should I type in:
> > append=hda=ide_scsi mem=128M
> 
> If it's a harddisk, I don't think it's necessary. The only reason you want to
> use ide-scsi mode would be to be able to write on a cdr or cdrw drive, and
> perhaps it's nice to have your regular cdrom work in ide-scsi mode as well, if
> some application demands it. the only app I ever encountered that didn't want to
> read from atapi-cdroms was xcdroast.
> 
> Anyway, the line you were looking for is:
>   append="hda=ide-scsi mem=128M"
>  ^   ^ ^
> 
> But I'd drop the 'hda=ide-scsi' part. Not necessary, and probably even
> dangerous.
> 
> If you're smart, you add another image-section to your /etc/lilo.conf, and leave
> the old one alone. This way you can test new settings on the new kernel image,
> without modifying your old config, and thus making it impossible to boot if you
> screw up. As an example, I'll paste my /etc/lilo.conf below. Notice how I test
> all new kernels, and all new lilo settings on the "test" image.
> 
> **
> 
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=0x030C
> default=test
> keytable=/boot/be-latin1.klt
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-test
> label=test
> root=/dev/hda6
> append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hda6
> append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-15mdksecure
> label=secure
> root=/dev/hda6
> append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
> label=linux-up
> root=/dev/hda6
> append="mem=128M hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi"
> read-only
> other=/dev/hda2
> label=dos
> table=/dev/hda
> other=/dev/fd0
> label=floppy
> unsafe
> 
> **
> 
> --
> 
> Rial Juan
> e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533
> ulyssis system admininstrator   
> 
> The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly.
> That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...
> 
> 
> 
> Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
> Help bring us more Linux Drivers

Re: [newbie] Install from Local Hard Drive

[Kenny]

I'm having the same problem as you, that either 
happens or it dies suddenly by signal 9 
 
Kenny

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ryan A. Eldridge 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:57 
AM
  Subject: [newbie] Install from Local Hard 
  Drive
  
  I am trying to install mandrake 7 from my local 
  hard drive. I am trying to go the route of using the Install.bat which starts 
  up the options of drakeX on restart.
   
  Then once I restart I choose DrakX 
  Local
   
  Then it asks for a floppy and I hit 
  return
   
  Next it loads up the kernel and I get a prompt 
  that says
  select partition and Directory holding Linux 
  Mandrake. I point it to my D: Drive since I have the whole install on that 
  drive.
   
  Then I hit return and all I get is a mostly blank 
  screen with 
  Welcome to Linux Mandrake in the upper left hand 
  corner and a flashing cursor in the lower left hand corner.
   
  There it just stops it keeps blinking I let it 
  run for about 30 mins and nothing happned. 
   
  Any Advice would be appreciated.
  Ry

Re: [newbie] Untar

[flupke]

You just have to mount your floppy and treat it like any other tgz
archive:
  mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
  cd /tmp
  tar zxf /mnt/floppy/kxicq.tgz

HTH
Flupke

On Wed, 17 May 2000, John Arkoulis wrote:

> OK here is a newbie question.
> I downloaded kxlicq and I want to try it.
> It is on a floppy and off course its tar.gz format.
> I am reading the manual (page290) how to uncompress it but it does not make
> sense to me.
> How do I do it??/
> If it was on my HD it would be easier but I have no idea how to go with the
> files being on a floppy.
> 
> 
>  --  Windoze is a virus with a user interface!
> This message created with Linux!
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] High failure rate tar.gz

[Oliver L. Plaine Jr.]

On Thu, 18 May 2000 05:47:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

>> [olly@localhost Lintech]$ tar -tf Grokking-the-GIMP-v1_0_tar.gz
>
>Did you download this file under windows? 

Thu, 18 May 2000  10:46:04

Yes Alex, I have only a winmodem to access my slow (max 26-4)
connection...I downloaded the files in MS explorer and sucked them up
into Linux through the VFAT hole.  first generation W95 with fat16..

Your question indicates to me that this procedure would
introduce errors to the downloaded file? is this a common malady?
 is there any way I can repair the breakage or force it to decode even
if it has errors in the format?


thank you for answering

Olly P

Biloxi
Mississippi

Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)

[flupke]

I don't like KDE or gnome. I find them too "resource consuming". They can
be usefull for people not wanting to learn how to really use linux. Linux
newbies generally like it, but once they discover how much it wastes
memory and CPU, they change their mind and use the "power" of the
command line.
I usually use blackbox. It's light and fast. Just what I need : a
graphical interface, but no silly unneeded features.

Enlightenment is pretty cool, too, but I fear that  E 0.17, with the
integration of efm, will show the same waste of resources as KDE or Gnome.
But what I like in E, it's that, unlike KDE or gnome, it has its own
personality and features. It is not intended to look like Zinblow$.

Flupke

On Wed, 17 May 2000, Michael wrote:

> Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
> WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
> proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
> 
> 
> --
>   -michael brower-
>"Dancing with Penguins"
> Registered Linux User #175480
> 
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Multiple X

[quaylar]

On Wed, 17 May 2000 19:56:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

switch to a virtual console, login and type :

startx -- :1  

--quay




>Is it possible to be using multiple users on X using "virtual consoles"?  Thanks
> 
>Drew Jackman
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] How do you access console mode from within X to changelilo.conf

[Alan Shoemaker]

Romangreat!

Alan


Romanator wrote:
> 
> Alan,
> 
> Sorry. How's that.
> 
> Roman
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > Romannope, I've never even looked for any kind of
> > adjustment concerning the sounds getting truncated.
> >
> > I believe that the assignment of the icons for different users
> > is random (just a guess).
> >
> > Glad you're up and running in a stable manner.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > P.S. You should be sending your messages TO:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a CC:  > address> as an option.  But not the other way around as it
> > screws up the reply addressing on some mail clients.
> >
> > Romanator wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll give it a go. Thank you for all of your help.
> > > I increased my swap size, and added an append statement for my RDRAM in
> > > lilo.conf. Sure helps.
> > >
> > > Now that I've done that, the program works much better. Also, have you
> > > bothered with any of the sounds? For login and logout. I noticed that
> > > they get cut off quite quickly during my log out. I'm sure that there
> > > must be an adjustment.
> > >
> > > On a funnier note, do your little penguin icons in KDE have different
> > > hats or hair styles depending on the different users added by root?
> > > Okay, I'm getting a little goofy. Time for a break and java.
> > >
> > > Roman
> > >
> > > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Romandon't sweat it! :-)
> > > >
> > > > In fact, I'd better tell you how to get back to your gui
> > > > desktop when you're done in the console.  Your initial
> > > > x-session is numbered :0 and alt-f7 takes you back to it.
> > > >
> > > > In addition to that alt-f8 takes you  to desktop :1, alt-f9
> > > > takes you to desktop :2, alt-f10 takes you to desktop :3,
> > > > alt-f11 takes you to desktop :4, and alt-f12 takes you to
> > > > desktop :5.  These desktops don't exist unless you start
> > > > additional x-sessions in the different numbered desktops.
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > > Romanator wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Alan,
> > > > >
> > > > > For some bizarre reason that particular email was not received by me
> > > > > until a few moments after I had sent the question. I get tons and tons
> > > > > of email as I also do technical support for simulators.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roman
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RomanI quote myself:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Romanso, something was wrong with x-windows and needed
> > > > > > fixing.  In a case like that there are key-combinations to try
> > > > > > (for instance ctl-alt-f2,f3,f4,f5 or f6 could have gotten you
> > > > > > to a console where you could login and re-run Xconfigurator to
> > > > > > fix the problem."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Romanator wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you access 'Console Mode' from within X windows? In addition, can
> > > > > > > I review and make modifications from the desktop i.e. checking my RAM. I
> > > > > > > think the command line is:   /sbin/lilo.conf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should this be done from ' root ' ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have an IDE drive. Should I type in:
> > > > > > > append=hda=ide_scsi mem=128M
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roman

Re: [[newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)]

[freeman]

I think KDE is the best for newbie's who are just trying 
to learn linux with a win look and feel.  But I use Black
box because it faster.

Mike



> Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
> > WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
> > proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
> > 
> > 
> > --
> >   -michael brower-
> >"Dancing with Penguins"
> > Registered Linux User #175480
> ===
> On both my laptop (PII 233 w/96M RAM; COL 2.2) and my desktop at work (PIII
> 450 w/192M RAM Mandrake 6.1) I use KDE.  Been using it on that laptop for over
> a year now.  It's what I'm accustomed to.  I've never even tried the others.
> Mike
>  
> 
> 
> ~~~
> "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
>   --Tom Waits ~~~
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] High failure rate tar.gz

[John Couturier]

I have found that sometimes when I download a file with Netscape it names it with a 
.tar.gz extention but in fact it unzipped it when it was downloaded.  Try renameing it 
to whatever it should be named without the .tar.gz I know that appears strange, but it 
has actually worked for me sometimes.

John
-- Original Message --
From: "Oliver L. Plaine Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:17:17 -0500

>Wed, 17 May 2000  16:30:04
>
>I have downloaded eighteen tar.gz files from various sites...some of
>them work without complaint...six of them will not gunzip..
>
>   The Archiver tool claims they are of an unknown format...
>
>zcat and midnight commander will not open them...I have tried to open
>them with tar -zxvf  (crummy file) tar.gzno soap.
>
>keep in mind that I am able to do other files ok, so my procedures
>should be adequate,..?.. I downloaded  A thirty meg book "Grokking the
>GIMP", it took three hours with my antique phone line hookup,, and the
>file gave the error below...this file is read by other people so I
>cannot believe all these files are bad...
>   what could I do to recover this file ? can I change some
>coding with a hex editor or something and make them decode? take a
>look at the file fragment below I obtained, using the tar test (first
>line below).
>=
>[olly@localhost Lintech]$ tar -tf Grokking-the-GIMP-v1_0_tar.gz
>Grokking-the-GIMP-v1.0/
>Grokking-the-GIMP-v1.0/Grokking_the_GIMP.html
>tar: Skipping to next file header
>tar: Archive contains `"N U\240\301P\226\203\t\330\026Y"' where
>numeric off_t value expected
>tar: Archive contains `"\362\037`\261\b\264\341\216D\334\023&"' where
>numeric time_t
>value expected
>\022\304\001\025\230[\355\330\245\260\260\313v\266\013_\n\013\242\331I/\274\342F\026\002\024t$\355!U\017.\346z\262g{\332EcrZJ&@\221\321g}\332\347}\342\247}B_\237\345g\177\342'\364\251\303\304\370\347\200\022\350\177\322\b\215\004h\236\361\247\221M\314\202\026\350\203\022\350\304
>tar: Skipping to next file header
>\253\013\273q\326\272\257\353\272\261k\273\221\005n\220{\273\273\213X\257Fo\274\013\274Mgl\234;g\301\333^\201
>tar: Skipping to next file header
>tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
>==
>
>can someone offer a theory? anyone?  comeon Paul you have an answer
>don't you? .
>
>thank you kindly for your efforts
>Olly P
>Biloxi
>Mississippi
>
>

Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)

[John Couturier]

My personal vote is for KDE.  I like the symplicity of setup and the way it is 
packaged.  KDE is in only mabye 10 packages.  GNOME is something like 80 and that 
makes it hard to keep up to date.  Currently I think GNOME only beats KDE in the 
themeing arena.  But from what I've seen of KDE2 they are in for a fight.  I try and 
stay out of the liscense debates and phylosophy type arguments.  I like KDE because it 
fits my style.  And the one you like best is the one that fits your style of doing 
things.

John
-- Original Message --
From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:12:56 -0800

>Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
>WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
>proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
>
>
>--
>  -michael brower-
>   "Dancing with Penguins"
>Registered Linux User #175480
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Error when running LILO

[John Couturier]

Phil,
I'd have to look at your lilo.conf file to be sure, but maybe your windows 
section is pointing to  something that doesn't exist.  I've attached mine for you to 
take a look at.  Mine defaults to linux, but to make it default to windows I just 
change the "default=" line to "default=windows" which is the label for my windows 
setion.  I'm guessing you set your windows section up like a linux section and boot.b 
does not exist on a windows boot partition.

John
-- Original Message --
From: Phil Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:30:06 -0700

>I've edited my /etc/lilo.conf file to default to windows (easier for my
>children to access their programs) but when I run lilo I get:
>
>open /boot/boot.b: No such file or directory
>
>lilo -q returns:
>
>open /boot/map: No such file or directory
>
>Any ideas why? My changes will not take effect otherwise.
>
>Thanks, 
>Phil
>
>



map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hdb1
append="hdd=ide-scsi parport=auto idebus=33"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.3.99-pre7
label=linuxold
root=/dev/hdb1
append="hdd=ide-scsi parport=auto idebus=33"
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

Re: [newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)

[Necrotica]

Careful with this topic - it can sometimes start wars. :)

KDE is too much like Windows for me. Gnome is unnecessarily bloated. I use
straight Enlightenment, mainly because it looks nice and is extremely
configurable (almost too configurable). Very fast and very slick.

-Chris


On Wed, 17 May 2000, you wrote:
> 
> Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
> WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
> proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
> 
> 
> --
>   -michael brower-
>"Dancing with Penguins"
> Registered Linux User #175480
> 
> 
> 


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Re: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED:-[newbie] Purcahsing a copy ofLinux-Mandrakeversion 7.0 in Australia.

[Dennis Robertson]

Paul Marriott wrote:
> 
> You can find links to Mandrake resellers/distributors in Australia on
> the Linux-Mandrake home page under the heading GET IT
> - CDs You'll find that at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/
> The page for Australia is  http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/asia.php3
> Good luck...
> Paul
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >  My local electronics retailer says they can't get copies of
> > Linux-Mandrake version 7.0 from O/S. Does anyone know a web site where you could
> > purchase a copy on the internet?
> >
> >  Thanks Marco Mastrocinque.

www.everythinglinux.com.au
-- 
Dennis Robertson  2/2 Sylvia Street  NOOSAVILLE  QLD  4566  AUSTRALIA
Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mobile: 0419 535539  Fax: Phone for setup.

Re: [newbie] High failure rate tar.gz

[Alex V Flinsch]

On Wed, 17 May 2000, you wrote:

>   what could I do to recover this file ? can I change some
> coding with a hex editor or something and make them decode? take a
> look at the file fragment below I obtained, using the tar test (first
> line below).
> =
> [olly@localhost Lintech]$ tar -tf Grokking-the-GIMP-v1_0_tar.gz

Did you download this file under windows? 

-- 
Alex
(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)

[newbie] staroffice as user

[David Olsson]

I installed staroffice as root, now I cant access staroffice
as user. 
How do I do?

David in Sweden

[newbie] ajuda

[Eddie Ramos]

Gostaria de uma ajuda.
Instalei o mandrake 7.0, pedi para ele iniciar em modo
grafico, mas a tela de logon q aparece nao eh aquela
do kde aonde colocamos login, senha e escolhemos a
interface grafica q desejamos. Eh uma tela com login e
senha e aparece apenas dois terminais. 
Gostaria de saber como faco paramudar isso?
Obrigado

Edson


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Re: [[newbie] Window manager(KDE,Enlightenment,BlackBox...)]

[Michael Scottaline]

Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Who uses which for what? It seems each of the "session types" ie.
> WindowMaker, After Step, Enlightenment,Gnome, KDE,etc has its
> proponents. I'd like to know what you guys think is the best .
> 
> 
> --
>   -michael brower-
>"Dancing with Penguins"
> Registered Linux User #175480
===
On both my laptop (PII 233 w/96M RAM; COL 2.2) and my desktop at work (PIII
450 w/192M RAM Mandrake 6.1) I use KDE.  Been using it on that laptop for over
a year now.  It's what I'm accustomed to.  I've never even tried the others.
Mike
 


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[newbie] key-repeat delay

[bill]

Hi,
Is there a way to set the key-repeat delay from within mdk7.0? I have it
set to the minimum (250ms) in the bios, but get about 1 sec delay in
linux.  I do get the short delay in windoze.
Thanks
Bill

Re: [newbie] How do you access console mode from within X to changelilo.conf

[Alan Shoemaker]

Romannope, I've never even looked for any kind of
adjustment concerning the sounds getting truncated.

I believe that the assignment of the icons for different users
is random (just a guess).

Glad you're up and running in a stable manner.

Alan

P.S. You should be sending your messages TO:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with a CC:  as an option.  But not the other way around as it
screws up the reply addressing on some mail clients.


Romanator wrote:
> 
> I'll give it a go. Thank you for all of your help.
> I increased my swap size, and added an append statement for my RDRAM in
> lilo.conf. Sure helps.
> 
> Now that I've done that, the program works much better. Also, have you
> bothered with any of the sounds? For login and logout. I noticed that
> they get cut off quite quickly during my log out. I'm sure that there
> must be an adjustment.
> 
> On a funnier note, do your little penguin icons in KDE have different
> hats or hair styles depending on the different users added by root?
> Okay, I'm getting a little goofy. Time for a break and java.
> 
> Roman
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > Romandon't sweat it! :-)
> >
> > In fact, I'd better tell you how to get back to your gui
> > desktop when you're done in the console.  Your initial
> > x-session is numbered :0 and alt-f7 takes you back to it.
> >
> > In addition to that alt-f8 takes you  to desktop :1, alt-f9
> > takes you to desktop :2, alt-f10 takes you to desktop :3,
> > alt-f11 takes you to desktop :4, and alt-f12 takes you to
> > desktop :5.  These desktops don't exist unless you start
> > additional x-sessions in the different numbered desktops.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Romanator wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Alan,
> > >
> > > For some bizarre reason that particular email was not received by me
> > > until a few moments after I had sent the question. I get tons and tons
> > > of email as I also do technical support for simulators.
> > >
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > Roman
> > >
> > > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > RomanI quote myself:
> > > >
> > > > "Romanso, something was wrong with x-windows and needed
> > > > fixing.  In a case like that there are key-combinations to try
> > > > (for instance ctl-alt-f2,f3,f4,f5 or f6 could have gotten you
> > > > to a console where you could login and re-run Xconfigurator to
> > > > fix the problem."
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > > Romanator wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you access 'Console Mode' from within X windows? In addition, can
> > > > > I review and make modifications from the desktop i.e. checking my RAM. I
> > > > > think the command line is:   /sbin/lilo.conf
> > > > >
> > > > > Should this be done from ' root ' ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an IDE drive. Should I type in:
> > > > > append=hda=ide_scsi mem=128M
> > > > >
> > > > > Roman

Re: [newbie] New email/ unable to resubscribe to newbie

[Alan Shoemaker]

Bobit appears to me that you've been successful in your
attempt at resubscribing. :-)

Alan


Bob wrote:
> 
> Having changed my ISP, I have attempted to re subscribe to the newbie
> list with no success.  Thank you.
> 
> Bob
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[newbie] Install from Local Hard Drive

[Ryan A. Eldridge]

I am trying to install mandrake 7 from my local 
hard drive. I am trying to go the route of using the Install.bat which starts up 
the options of drakeX on restart.
 
Then once I restart I choose DrakX 
Local
 
Then it asks for a floppy and I hit 
return
 
Next it loads up the kernel and I get a prompt that 
says
select partition and Directory holding Linux 
Mandrake. I point it to my D: Drive since I have the whole install on that 
drive.
 
Then I hit return and all I get is a mostly blank 
screen with 
Welcome to Linux Mandrake in the upper left hand 
corner and a flashing cursor in the lower left hand corner.
 
There it just stops it keeps blinking I let it run 
for about 30 mins and nothing happned. 
 
Any Advice would be appreciated.
Ry