Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz

[Edison Gica]

hi all:

well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists 
to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems.  I finished unzipping them 
and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess 
what message i got

my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, 
I have LM 7.0 version.

thanks in advance,
edison


>From: Anthony Huereca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
>Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:42:13 -0400
>
>
> > Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to
> > install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it 
>with
> > the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to 
>do
> > next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about 
>Linux?
> > I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after 
>that.
> > I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!)
> > Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once 
>I
> > install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution?
>
>Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare.
>But here's how to make it better.
>
>First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". 
>This
>will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme
>file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact
>instructions on how to install that particular program.
>
>But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, 
>type
>"./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper 
>libraries
>installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing 
>and
>look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh
>the_missing_file.rpm" as root.
>
>Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This 
>will
>compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" 
>to
>root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is 
>installed.
>Just type "the_program_name" to run it.
>
>
>
>--
>Anthony Huereca
>http://m3000.1wh.com
>Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
>


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Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz

[spooky]

> > Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to
> > install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with
> > the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do
> > next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux?
> > I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that.
> > I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!)
> > Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I
> > install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution?
> 
> Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare.

TELL me about it! I just did it for the first time about a week ago. It
took me FOREVER to figure it out because MDK 7.02 didn't install the
right development libs (or tools, for that matter) for me.



> But here's how to make it better.
> 
> First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This
> will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme
> file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact
> instructions on how to install that particular program.
> 
> But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type
> "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries
> installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and
> look for it on rpmfind.net.

Excellent advice. If you have a slower connection (like mine, 56k), I'd
look on the Mandrake CD first. I found out that everything that
./configure has grumped at me for not having so far I found on my CD;
the RPM's have VERY descriptive names (THANK GOD : ))!



> Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh
> the_missing_file.rpm" as root.
> 
> Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will
> compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to
> root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed.
> Just type "the_program_name" to run it.

And, remember: if it doesn't work right and the docs don't help (which
I've found they don't with errrors you might have during compilation),
hit the lists or IRC. Oh, and another good thing that I've discovered:
hook up with local (or, if you live in the middle of nowhere like I do,
not-so-local) LUGs.  Read their sites and mailing lists.
Almost everything that I read in the lists belonging to LUGs in my state
is over my head, but hey: if you don't know it's out there you can't be
inquisitive about it.
: )

adam eubank

[newbie] Installing themes

[Fred Hamilton]

I am still looking for answers in installing programs. When I install an 
RMPS package the application does not appear on my KDE menu. Do I have to 
manually install it and if so, how? Where does the program get installed? I 
saw nothing that led me to believe I could control where it gets installed. 
Also I am still receiving the error "Can only start executables on local 
disks." I am confused by this message as well. When installing an 
application in TAR or GZ format, what file do I typically look for to 
install it? (ie, install.exe or setup.exe in Windows, What's the equivalent 
in Linux?) And lastly, I have several KDE themes I want to install in GZ 
format. Where do I copy them in order for them to appear in my Themes 
choices? Sorry if all this sounds to simple to ask about... I am a Systems 
Analyst in the MS Windows world, but am brand new to Linux, but I like 
Linux better so far. Once I get past the learning curve I may use it 
exclusively...

Fred

PS: What is one of the better email clients? I use Eudora Pro in Windows 
and would like something similar for Linux.
Where are some of the better sites for obtaining Linux software on the web, 
and for learning about Linux?

[expert] Neighbour Table Overflow ERROR

[Brash, Matthew]

I sent out an email about this before...  my Mandrake 7.1 is giving me a
"Neighbour Table Overflow" message in my console when I either run more than
one user or if I run X on my machine.  (Pentium III 450, 128M, 3DFX Voodoo3
3000, SCSI burner and CDROM, 2 HDD)

ANY THOUGHTS?  What the heck is this message and why is it coming up?

Matt

Re: [newbie] About to give up.

[Sthitaprajna]

On 13 Jun 00, at 23:40, Everette wrote:

> Well it looked like every thing setup OK so I reinstalled qpopper but it
> want work now in fact I tried some other mail server software and can't
> get any of thm to work.

A better option to qpopper and faster is fetchmail. It is usually 
installed by default. At a terminal window, type fetchmailconf. a 
prety self explanatory GUI will crop up. Should get you popping mails 
from all over.

> When I use telnet it logs onto the mail server fine and tells me I have
> 0 massages, my mail client software logs in fine but tell's me I have no
> new massages this afther I have sent about 20 or 30 test mail to it.

Now this is something else. Probably your account does have 0 
messages. Does Netscape Messenger see any messages there? You say 
you've sent 20-30 mails to it, but are they really reaching it? 
Check. Use a dedicated mail client like balsa,kmail, netscape 
messenger, spruce...while you are setting up the perfect mail 
combination for yourself.
===
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===
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Anyone who says differently is selling something
- Westley of "The Princess Bride" 

Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation

[Digital Wokan]

He actually had a point.  You may not have found him articulate in
bringing it up, but he was right.  Assuming you have some knowledge in
setting up a Linux system, you should not have to reinstall the entire
thing.  Though, I must admit, sometimes even I have found it to be the
most expedient solution to the problem.

Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> flupkebecause your opinion/solution and mine differ is no
> reason to be rude towards me when you expound upon your own
> remedy.  Yelling that my suggestion to help this person was
> 'BAD' was simply not called for and I resent it.
> 
> Yelling in general is rude, but what you said, in the manner
> in which you said it, was pompous and condescending in the
> extreme as well as just plain rude.
> 
> Please contemplate and consider the above comments when
> composing future public messages.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> flupke wrote:
> >
> > I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE OS.
> > Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
> > is NOT windows!
> > If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
> > just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you are
> > done.
> > Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
> > just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the whole
> > thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level, the
> > internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.
> >
> > Sorry, but I had to say it.
> > Flupke
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > > occured.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech MouseMan+,
> > > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but I've
> > > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > > >
> > > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?  I've
> > > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30 seconds
> > > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > > entered correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I didn't
> > > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > > >
> > > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Carl Kehley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>

-- 
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Tribal mage of the electronics age
Guerilla Linux Warrior

[newbie] About to give up.

[Everette]

Hello again

I'm going to try this one last time before I give up.
A few months back I bought linux-mandrake 6.1 I installed a few progams
one being qpopper mail server, It worked fine.
A few weeks ago I downloaded and installed mandrake 7.0  I did a
complete install doing away with every thing I setup in 6.1 includeing
qpopper.
Well it looked like every thing setup OK so I reinstalled qpopper but it
want work now in fact I tried some other mail server software and can't
get any of thm to work.
When I use telnet it logs onto the mail server fine and tells me I have
0 massages, my mail client software logs in fine but tell's me I have no
new massages this afther I have sent about 20 or 30 test mail to it.

Please if any one has any idea what's going on please let me know I am
about to give up.

Thanks

Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem with v7.0...

[Dennis Myers]

Dacia and AzureRose wrote:

> hmmm...both of the computers I've seen this problem on
> had Via chipsets on their motherboards.
>
> Dacia
> --- flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry, I didn't follow this tread from the begining,
> > so I hope I won't say
> > anything stoopid or something that has already been
> > said.
> > If I understand, the problem here is all the dump of
> > the stack and
> > registers caused by a page default or something at
> > the end of a shutdown.
> >
> > I have the same problem. I think it only happens on
> > Motherboards with VIA
> > chips. I don't mind about it since it doesn't cause
> > any damage, but it is
> > nice to get rid of that bad stuff.
> > I solved the problem by modifying the
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt file and
> > change the line
> >   eval $command -i -d -p
> > to
> >   eval $command -i -d
> >
> > PS :
> > http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick1.html
> > :-)
> >
> > HTH
> > Flupke
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Fran Parker wrote:
> >
> > > I second what Ronald wrote...I went to DRAKCONF
> > and
> > > found it there no problem and disabled it.
> > Shutdown and
> > > there were all the things on the screen
> > again...full screen
> > > all over the screen...
> > >
> > > I also already had the power management in KDE
> > disabled
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > Oh, well it was worth a shot.
> > >
> > > Anyway, reboot works just fine :)
> > >
> > > Bambi
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ronald J. Hall" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Paul wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Log in as root, or run "su"
> > > > > Then run "setup" in a console
> > > > > Go to system services, and uncheck the APM
> > daemon. it is right below the
> > > > > anacron daemon.
> > > > > After a reboot you're all set!
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > Hi. Well, I opened up a shell on my desktop,
> > > > ran su, password, typed in "setup" and it told
> > > > me, "bash: command not found".
> > > >
> > > > So I went into the DRAKCONF and ran startup,
> > > > found it (under anacron, like you said) and
> > > > disabled it. Unfortunately, after powering
> > > > down, and rebooting, the problem still exists.
> > > > I also have dmps disabled from the kde desktop
> > > > (don't know if that needed to be or not). Any
> > > > other possible ideas as to what it might be?
> > > >
> > > > (Thanks to Dennis Myers for the DRAKCONF tip)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks much!
> > > >
> > > > PS Did you see the reply I posted with the
> > details
> > > > on the screen that I'm left with? Maybe you can
> > > > find a clue there...
> > > >
> > > > See ya...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
> >
>
> __
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> Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints!
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Followup to this thread, I figured out how to edit (hooray!!!) and went
in to the above listed   /etc/ files and deleted the -p and voila!  the
error message is gone when I "halt" the sys.  I think that I am
beginning to get the hang of some of this and am falling in love with
"linux".  You can actually fix things if you want to take the time to
learn.

Re: [Re: [newbie] What happerned to setup]

[Jaguar]

Yes...I tried even dropping to Linux 3 mode...as root...

Dacia and AzureRose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know it's obvious and I mean no insult by this
> question butwere you logged in as root?
> 
> 
> Dacia
> --- Jaguar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just reinstalled MDK 7.0 after a HD failure, and
> > was trying to use "setup"
> > from a command line to configure my Opti 82C929
> > sound card.  I can't find
> > "setup", what is the RPM, or file name to
> > install/use "setup".
> > TIA
> > Jaguar
> > 
> > The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the
> > Karma.
> > 
> >
> 
> > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account
> > today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz

[Anthony Huereca]

> Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to 
> install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with 
> the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do 
> next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? 
> I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. 
> I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) 
> Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I 
> install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution?

Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare.
But here's how to make it better.

First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This
will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme
file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact
instructions on how to install that particular program. 

But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type
"./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries
installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and
look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh
the_missing_file.rpm" as root. 

Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will
compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to
root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed.
Just type "the_program_name" to run it.



-- 
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 

[newbie] Point of reference & Hopkins FBI

[Jaguar]

Linux content follows...:)

I am just wondering when this list became "Official Bash MS Windows, Linux
Rules" mail list.  Personally I am sick of seeing the majority of list users
bashing MS Windows when this is in fact a _Linux_ list.  We all had to start
somewhere, and for most of us MS Windows was the only game in town.  I think
at least every third message that is posted in here contains derogatory
comments about MS.  For those that don't agree with my comments send the
flames to /dev/null.
IMO:)

Linux content:...

Has anyone tried Hopkins FBI located on the Maximum Linux CD June/July 2000
issue?  I installed it and the games works ok...but there is no sound from my
SB AWE 64 sound card.
Any suggestions about this game?
TIA
Jaguar

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Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz

[Sthitaprajna]

On 13 Jun 00, at 21:47, Fred Hamilton wrote:

> correct amount of RAM, but it still only reports 64Mb. How can I fix this, 
> or do I need to worry about it?

At the LILO prompt specify the amount of RAM. BTW, how did you get 
164MB RAM on your machine? 128+32=160. Maybe, you don't have 164MB 
RAM.Check. 

> Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to 
> install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with 
> the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do 
> next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? 

Read the manual pages for tar. In a terminal, man tar, or type tar --
help. That will show you many options. A .tar.gz package is a gzipped 
version of the actual install files. 

> I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. 
> I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) 
> Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I 
> install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution?

At the bash or what ever shell you are using, type 
tar -zvf full_package_name. Then your staroffice application will be 
untarred to a /opt directory. Go there and read the Readme files. 
IIRC, there were options for a network or a single user configuration.
For help on installing staroffice, there maybe some help at 
www.mandrakeuser.org. Anyway, man tar and read everything.

HTH
===
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@mailandnews.com
===
Life is pain, Highness.
Anyone who says differently is selling something
- Westley of "The Princess Bride" 

Re: [newbie] NFS Install

[Ed Tharp]

being a newbie and all, I do not mind asking dumb questions so here
goes... what do you mean by loop mounted them on my server?
 and would you not need an ISO9660 partion to mount and correctly read
an ISO image? and can you read an ISO9660 file system from an IDE drive?
what is the results if you store an ISO on a ReiserFS?
Randy wrote:
> 
> I downloaded the Iso images and loop mounted them on my server.
> 
> Then I added the share directory in my exports config.
> 
> When I mounted the directory on my workstation the directories where I mounted
> the Iso's are empty.  The other files in the share are available.
> 
> I'm planning to do my upgrade this way. Once I get it working right.
> 
> Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong.  I'm new to using NFS.
> 
> BTW: I added the directory on my server with Samba and imported it on my
> workstation with no problem.  I was able to see the loop mounted iso's.
> 
> Thanks

Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz

[Michael Lueck]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:47:54 -0400, Fred Hamilton wrote:

>First, my system has 164Mb of RAM but Mandrake only 
>reports 64.

I got a nice answer a while back on this same issue - saved text follows:

>>
To check what Linux detected, use the command 'free'.  The output will
look like:
total   used   free sharedbuffers cached 
Mem:127980 124964   3016  44460  15884 
53136 
-/+ buffers/cache:  55944  72036 
Swap:   130404   2792
127612

The line you're interested in is the top left numeric cell.  If that
doesn't show roughly the same number, you've got a problem to fix.

To get Linux to recognize all of your memory, insert a line reading:

append="mem=128M"

into /etc/lilo.conf.  The "linux" section will then look something like
this:

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-4mdksmp 
label=linux 
root=/dev/hda3 
append="mem=128M"

read-only   

After editing /etc/lilo.conf, you'll need to rerun lilo to install the
new boot information.  This will run it:

/sbin/lilo

Reboot the machine and all should be well!
<<

Michael Lueck
Lueck Data Systems
http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/

[newbie] Tar and .Gz

[Fred Hamilton]

I am a REAL newbie. I just installed Mandrake 7.1 last night. I have a 
couple of questions. First, my system has 164Mb of RAM but Mandrake only 
reports 64. During the install I tried to over-ride this and entered the 
correct amount of RAM, but it still only reports 64Mb. How can I fix this, 
or do I need to worry about it?

Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to 
install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with 
the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do 
next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? 
I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. 
I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) 
Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I 
install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution?


Thanks

Fred

Re: [newbie] help me in Network card setup, then cable modem card install

[Romanator]

Hi,

I am using the @Home cable service. After this web page, my connections
to the Internet and email were restored. Go to the following web link
and read the instructions for @Home. You will have to modify some files
manually using TextEdit.

http://members.home.net/randal.leavitt/CableModemConnectionNotes.html

Good Luck!

Roman


> nishant wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have a linux newbie and just installed mandrake 7.1.
> I basically need to get my realtek 8029 card up and running so as to
> connect to the internet through my cable modem (shaw @home)
> 
> I went into the drak conf and looked at the hardware installed (i
> think its called Lothar and I enabled isa detect).
> Under network card I saw that my realtek card was detected.
> 
> However, when i boot up linux, I dont get the eth 0[OK]
> i dont get anything at all.
> 
> I have played around with the network configurator in the drakconf but
> to no success.
> The best result i seem to have gotten iseth 0 : delaying
> network initialization   (or some such thing)
> 
> 
> I need to get my ethernet card working in order to use the internet
> via the shaw @home cable connect.
> 
> Caa someone pls gimme step by step instruction on what to do. Any help
> would be much appreciated.
> Thanks again for any help any of u can give me.
> 
> 
> P.S. Can anyone suggest a good linux book for a newbie to pick up. I
> hear that "RUNNING LINUX" is awesome for a beginner. Any comments on
> tyhis subject matter too would be apprecaited.
> 
> Thanks,
> demo Nish

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Re: [newbie] What happerned to "setup"

[Dacia and AzureRose]

I know it's obvious and I mean no insult by this
question butwere you logged in as root?


Dacia
--- Jaguar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just reinstalled MDK 7.0 after a HD failure, and
> was trying to use "setup"
> from a command line to configure my Opti 82C929
> sound card.  I can't find
> "setup", what is the RPM, or file name to
> install/use "setup".
> TIA
> Jaguar
> 
> The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the
> Karma.
> 
>

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Re: [newbie] Packages

[Fran Parker]

Piero,

Well said all around.  I couldn't agree more.

You are right about some place to find out
what all those terms and programs are, it
would be nice to have something like that
all in one neat package somewhere.

In the meantime thought, we really already
have one... it is online through any search engine
you choose.  Just type in the term or name and
search away you will get plenty to hash over,
at sites or in messages.  I have found the Google
search especially handy for most things Linux.

It is cool isn't it when you find you don't have to
go any further than your own backyard (hard drive
or CD) for some thing you want...saves alot of
download time and the packages are made for your
Mandrake to boot.

Bambi



Piero wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:02:50 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > >I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that
> > >gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to
> > >know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by
> > >taking everything that is offered in the install.
> > >This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Robert F. Trettel
> > 
> > Tue, 13 Jun 2000  15:42:19
> >
> > I had the same Question Robert, all those strange names are quite
> > meaningless unless you already have experience...I found that the
> > descriptions in the KDE package tool are very helpful..
> >
> >   Click on a package name and a description shows up in the
> > right hand panel...Providing you have a linux loaded of courseIf
> > you have the space though ,load it all and then you can search through
> > it and learn about it for next installation...or any thing that you
> > don't need you can trim out...
> >
> >   If you don't load all the development material you cannot
> > manage to make and install some other RPM downloaded later. or do
> > compiling and the like.
> >
> > the site http://mandrakeuser.org/ has been big time helpful to me.
> > Olly P
> > Biloxi
>
> I have also been disconcerted, at first, by the overwhelming amount of
> packages I found in the Linux distributions (RH first, then Suse and finally
> Mandrake). I feared that it would invade my hd and that I would never be in
> control of such a number of programs. It would take a whole live just to
> understand what they were meant for, and in a little time, much shorter than
> the amount of time I'd need in order to be back in command of my computer, new
> versions would become available... A maelstrom of programs was going to drag me
> away...
>
> Things went rather differntly, though, and I would like to reassure both Robert
> and Olly, and all those who feel the same disconfort with packages.
> First, through utilities such as kpackages or rpmdrake, one can explore the
> packages installed on ones machine, and have a little explanation of what they
> are supposed to do.
>
> Secondly, as time goes by, you get invlved in properly installing licq, or
> configuring imwheel, or tying to understand whether wine is able to execute
> something alse as sol.exe. And you just forget the packages problem. Better: as
> Bambi says, you feel lucky when you discover that something you 'd like to test
> is already installed on your computer.
>
> As for pruning away the pakages that you do not need... Well, just think that
> you will do it one day. The idea that it is not impossible to do it (better,
> that through kpackages it would be very easy to do it) is very reassuring:
> than, you don't really need to do it . Just think taht you can. It's largely
> enough.
>
> Something would be very useful, though: a dictionary, or encyclopedia on line,
> that would allow one to understand such expression as "gui", or "api", or what
> a program like "Doom" is meant to do... But may-be it exists. Has anybody got
> any idea about this?
>
> --
> Piero
> --
> Dr Piero Caracciolo
> Ecole Normale Superieure
>
> ...humani nihil ...

Re: [newbie] Doom question...Hardware that works well?

[Dacia and AzureRose]

Spent a half hour writing a nice reply at work and
then accidentally grabbed the resize edge instead of
the slider.  Boom.  Gone.  

PC133 makes a noticeable difference.  Faster ram is
worth it.  Sometimes you can overclock your ram but it
is better to buy faster then overclock.  Having said
that, I'm running my pc100 ram at 125mhz and it works
just fine.  

Your K6-2 500/Asus P5A combo would be a great gaming
machine with 256 megs of ram and a g400 or voodoo3 or
voodoo5.  Last I saw, ram was $114 for 128 meg stick
of pc133 ram.

Two voodoo2's because I bought quake3 for linux
(without doing all of my homework) and then found that
my ATI rage fury will not give me hardware
acceleration in linux.yet.  I believe that Xfree86
4.0 rectifies this but I didn't want to wait until it
was stable to play quake.  The voodoo2's have a $30
rebate from 3dfx right now and they were on sale for
$60 at my favorite computer store.  They kick ass all
over the ATI card (obviously) in linux and in windows
too.  I wish I'd sprung for 'em a year ago when I
bought the ATI.

As far as first person shooter type games go, check
out half-life.  Not quite as pretty as quake3 or
unreal tournament but long enough in the story
department that I'm still enjoying it a full year
after buying it.  ANyway, thats wy off topic.  If
you want to talk more about games, feel free to write
me off the list.


Dacia
--- michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > Hey Michael,
> > 
> > Pretty much any p3 will do.  I've got an AMD K6-3
> 400
> > that performs on par with my roommates p3 550 for
> > every game we've ever played.  A 3dfx card will
> make
> > playing older games like quake2, doom, etc easy to
> set
> > up.  Quake 3 looks great on my system with 2
> voodoo2's
> > in SLI mode.  I have nothing but respect for
> matrox. 
> > G200 & G400 are both great cards for gaming no
> matter
> > which OS you are using.  128 megs of pc100 ram
> will do
> > you just fine.  Get 133 and ECC if you can afford
> it
> > and your motherboard supports ECC.
> > 
> > 
> > Dacia 
> > 
> Thanks! I guess I'll have to go for the PC133(does
> it really make that much
> diff?) and upgrade from my k62 500 ASUS P5A. My
> girlfriend and her 15 year old
> son will be here next week and I want to have a
> system he'll be able to play
> happily onwhy two voodoo2's?
> 
> I am new to the whole gaming world- if you'll read
> the posts on doom ?'s with
> fran et al, you'll see I've yet to get it working
> (lxdoom, that is) on my linux
> box. So I'm a dummy... but I try... :-)
> 
> \\=//
>  ( @ @ )
>---oOO--(_)--OOo---
> -michael-
> 


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Re: [newbie] Packages

[Piero]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:02:50 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> >I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that 
> >gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to 
> >know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by 
> >taking everything that is offered in the install.
> >This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Robert F. Trettel
> 
> Tue, 13 Jun 2000  15:42:19
> 
> I had the same Question Robert, all those strange names are quite
> meaningless unless you already have experience...I found that the
> descriptions in the KDE package tool are very helpful..
> 
>   Click on a package name and a description shows up in the
> right hand panel...Providing you have a linux loaded of courseIf
> you have the space though ,load it all and then you can search through
> it and learn about it for next installation...or any thing that you
> don't need you can trim out...
> 
>   If you don't load all the development material you cannot
> manage to make and install some other RPM downloaded later. or do
> compiling and the like.
> 
> the site http://mandrakeuser.org/ has been big time helpful to me.
> Olly P
> Biloxi

I have also been disconcerted, at first, by the overwhelming amount of
packages I found in the Linux distributions (RH first, then Suse and finally
Mandrake). I feared that it would invade my hd and that I would never be in
control of such a number of programs. It would take a whole live just to
understand what they were meant for, and in a little time, much shorter than
the amount of time I'd need in order to be back in command of my computer, new
versions would become available... A maelstrom of programs was going to drag me
away...

Things went rather differntly, though, and I would like to reassure both Robert
and Olly, and all those who feel the same disconfort with packages. 
First, through utilities such as kpackages or rpmdrake, one can explore the
packages installed on ones machine, and have a little explanation of what they
are supposed to do.

Secondly, as time goes by, you get invlved in properly installing licq, or
configuring imwheel, or tying to understand whether wine is able to execute
something alse as sol.exe. And you just forget the packages problem. Better: as
Bambi says, you feel lucky when you discover that something you 'd like to test
is already installed on your computer.

As for pruning away the pakages that you do not need... Well, just think that
you will do it one day. The idea that it is not impossible to do it (better,
that through kpackages it would be very easy to do it) is very reassuring:
than, you don't really need to do it . Just think taht you can. It's largely
enough.

Something would be very useful, though: a dictionary, or encyclopedia on line,
that would allow one to understand such expression as "gui", or "api", or what
a program like "Doom" is meant to do... But may-be it exists. Has anybody got
any idea about this?




-- 
Piero
--
Dr Piero Caracciolo
Ecole Normale Superieure

...humani nihil ...

[newbie] The ideal computer for Mandrake

[Phiber]

I have an old compaq presario 166.  I was wondering if this would be an
ideal computer for installing mandrake on?  Has anyone ever tried installing
it on a presario before?  Are there any conflicts?

Thanks

[newbie] help me in Network card setup, then cable modem card install

[nishant]

Hi,
I have a linux newbie and just installed mandrake 
7.1.
I basically need to get my realtek 8029 card up and 
running so as to connect to the internet through my cable modem (shaw 
@home)
 
I went into the drak conf and looked at the 
hardware installed (i think its called Lothar and I enabled isa 
detect).
Under network card I saw that my realtek card was 
detected.
 
However, when i boot up linux, I dont get the 
    eth 0    [OK]
i dont get anything at all.
 
I have played around with the network configurator 
in the drakconf but to no success.
The best result i seem to have gotten 
is            eth 0 : delaying 
network initialization   (or some such thing)
 
 
I need to get my ethernet card working in order to 
use the internet via the shaw @home cable connect.
 
Caa someone pls gimme step by step instruction on 
what to do. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks again for any help any of u can give 
me.
 
 
P.S. Can anyone suggest a good linux book for a 
newbie to pick up. I hear that "RUNNING LINUX" is awesome for a beginner. Any 
comments on tyhis subject matter too would be apprecaited.
 
Thanks,
demo Nish

[newbie] embedded Mandrake

[Paul Albert]

I'm trying to embed Mandrake 7.0 into a small machine.
My goal is a 10MB installation footprint, but the smallest
that I have gotten is 100MB using the expert/server
install and not selecting any of the packages.  Can I get
it smaller and still have generic server functions, such as
telnet, ftp, ping, and some sort of mail?

For now, I'm just practicing the installation on a Pentium
III 500 Compaq Deskpro.

Thanks,
Paul
--
Paul Albert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CellPort Systems, Inc. 

Re: [newbie] What happerned to "setup"

[Alan Shoemaker]

Jaguarsetup has been replaced with a more advanced version
of itself (it now runs in a gui mode as well as in the console
mode) called drakxconf.

If you start drakxconf from the desktop in a console window or
from alt-f2 it'll run in gui mode in it's own window, but if
you start it from a console it runs pretty much like the old
'setup'.

Alan
 

Jaguar wrote:
> 
> I just reinstalled MDK 7.0 after a HD failure, and was trying to use "setup"
> from a command line to configure my Opti 82C929 sound card.  I can't find
> "setup", what is the RPM, or file name to install/use "setup".
> TIA
> Jaguar
> 
> The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.
> 
> 
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
>http://webmail.netscape.com.

Re: [newbie] Packages

[Oliver L. Plaine Jr.]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:02:50 -0400, you wrote:

>I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that 
>gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to 
>know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by 
>taking everything that is offered in the install.
>This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.
>
>Thanks
>Robert F. Trettel

Tue, 13 Jun 2000  15:42:19

I had the same Question Robert, all those strange names are quite
meaningless unless you already have experience...I found that the
descriptions in the KDE package tool are very helpful..

Click on a package name and a description shows up in the
right hand panel...Providing you have a linux loaded of courseIf
you have the space though ,load it all and then you can search through
it and learn about it for next installation...or any thing that you
don't need you can trim out...

If you don't load all the development material you cannot
manage to make and install some other RPM downloaded later. or do
compiling and the like.

the site http://mandrakeuser.org/ has been big time helpful to me.
Olly P
Biloxi

RE: [newbie] Installation problem with 7.0

[Phiber]

The video card is a Trident 9685 PCI with a voodoo 2 accelerater.  How do I
boot into text mode?

-Original Message-
From: Charles A Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation problem with 7.0


What is your video card/device. It sounds to me as though it can not handle
the graph. install so you will need to run the install in text mode.

   Charles


- Original Message -
From: "Phiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: [newbie] Installation problem with 7.0


>
> I am trying to install Mandrake 7.0 on a 200 with 32 megs of ram.  I get
to
> the part here you pick which type of install you want (recommended,
custom,
> or expert), and when I pick one, my computer freezes.  I don't know what
the
> deal is.  If anyone can help me I would be thenkful.
>
>

Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation

[flupke]

Alan,
I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to be rude. I just wanted to attract
everybody's attention on the fact that there is generally no need to
reinstall linux. I see too often people saying "It didn't work, so I
reinstalled everything." And I REALLY felt like I had to say that it is
not a good solution.

If you think I have been rude towards you, please accept my apologies and
let's forget about it. This remark wasn't meant to be read only by you,
and that's why I insisted so much about it.

Again, I'm sorry.
Flupke

 On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> flupkebecause your opinion/solution and mine differ is no
> reason to be rude towards me when you expound upon your own
> remedy.  Yelling that my suggestion to help this person was
> 'BAD' was simply not called for and I resent it.  
> 
> Yelling in general is rude, but what you said, in the manner
> in which you said it, was pompous and condescending in the
> extreme as well as just plain rude.  
> 
> Please contemplate and consider the above comments when
> composing future public messages.
> 
> Alan
>  
> 
> flupke wrote:
> > 
> > I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE OS.
> > Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
> > is NOT windows!
> > If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
> > just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you are
> > done.
> > Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
> > just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the whole
> > thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level, the
> > internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.
> > 
> > Sorry, but I had to say it.
> > Flupke
> > 
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > 
> > > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > > occured.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech MouseMan+,
> > > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but I've
> > > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > > >
> > > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?  I've
> > > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30 seconds
> > > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > > entered correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I didn't
> > > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > > >
> > > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Carl Kehley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] What happerned to "setup"

[Anthony Huereca]

Yep, for some reason Mandrake didn't include setup with 7.1. Fortunatly, you
can download it from here:
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/redhat/6.2/i386/setuptool-1.2-5.i386.html 

> I just reinstalled MDK 7.0 after a HD failure, and was trying to use "setup"
> from a command line to configure my Opti 82C929 sound card.  I can't find
> "setup", what is the RPM, or file name to install/use "setup".
> TIA
> Jaguar
> 
> The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.
> 
-- 
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http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 

Re: [newbie] Installation problem with 7.0

[Charles A Edwards]

What is your video card/device. It sounds to me as though it can not handle
the graph. install so you will need to run the install in text mode.

   Charles


- Original Message -
From: "Phiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: [newbie] Installation problem with 7.0


>
> I am trying to install Mandrake 7.0 on a 200 with 32 megs of ram.  I get
to
> the part here you pick which type of install you want (recommended,
custom,
> or expert), and when I pick one, my computer freezes.  I don't know what
the
> deal is.  If anyone can help me I would be thenkful.
>
>

RE: [newbie] What happerned to "setup"

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] What happerned to "setup"





I believe it is "XF86Setup"  try that and see if you get where you want to go today. Heh! 


-Original Message-
From:   Jaguar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:15 AM
To: Linux Newbie
Subject:    [newbie] What happerned to "setup"


I just reinstalled MDK 7.0 after a HD failure, and was trying to use "setup"
from a command line to configure my Opti 82C929 sound card.  I can't find
"setup", what is the RPM, or file name to install/use "setup".
TIA
Jaguar


The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.



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Re: [newbie] Installation problem with 7.0

[Mark Bevivino]

What happens if you don't choose anything and let it do it's thing?
- Original Message -
From: "Phiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: [newbie] Installation problem with 7.0


>
> I am trying to install Mandrake 7.0 on a 200 with 32 megs of ram.  I get
to
> the part here you pick which type of install you want (recommended,
custom,
> or expert), and when I pick one, my computer freezes.  I don't know what
the
> deal is.  If anyone can help me I would be thenkful.
>
>

[newbie] Installation problem with 7.0

[Phiber]

I am trying to install Mandrake 7.0 on a 200 with 32 megs of ram.  I get to
the part here you pick which type of install you want (recommended, custom,
or expert), and when I pick one, my computer freezes.  I don't know what the
deal is.  If anyone can help me I would be thenkful.

[newbie] Cirrus Logic drivers

[Gary Green]

Any idea if there is a Cirrus Logic ICS 4614/22/24 (Crystal Clear Sound Fusion)
audio board driver around? This was a cheapo board sold under the AOpen brand
at one time.

Or is there a app that can change PnP devices such as a Soundblaster 32's PnP
setup w/o using windows to do so? (I dont  own a copy of windows).

Seems my Sblaster has a confilct with my scsi burner.

Thanks

Gary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [newbie] ya know guys....I really don't care to read your...

[Brash, Matthew]

We're all making it worse by getting involved... EVEN ME!
So everyone - YES EVEN ME --- SHUT UP

-Original Message-
From: Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] ya know guysI really don't care to read your...


Ya know guys...I really don't care to read your petty bickerings.  I am here
for linux help...if I wanted lessons on netiquette I'd subscribe to a list
concerning thathowever this is linux...take your pettiness to private
please...

Jim

- Original Message -
From: "Ed Tharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "flupke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] NOT Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation


Allen, just because in your neighborhood yelling is a negative thing, in my
neighborhood yelling is considered good, but out putting out one groups
(your) social ideas of right and wrong are considered very VERY negative.
we generally would keep it off a mail list and flame each other
individually.

but my next-door neighbor said "FLUPKE SHUT UP...WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT John
Deere tractors and fertilizer spreaders anyway.

He also said he stands behind all his work. (he repairs fertilizer
spreaders).
- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation


> flupkebecause your opinion/solution and mine differ is no
> reason to be rude towards me when you expound upon your own
> remedy.  Yelling that my suggestion to help this person was
> 'BAD' was simply not called for and I resent it.
>
> Yelling in general is rude, but what you said, in the manner
> in which you said it, was pompous and condescending in the
> extreme as well as just plain rude.
>
> Please contemplate and consider the above comments when
> composing future public messages.
>
> Alan
>
>
> flupke wrote:
> >
> > I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE
OS.
> > Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
> > is NOT windows!
> > If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
> > just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you
are
> > done.
> > Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
> > just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the
whole
> > thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level,
the
> > internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.
> >
> > Sorry, but I had to say it.
> > Flupke
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > > occured.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech
MouseMan+,
> > > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but
I've
> > > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > > >
> > > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?
I've
> > > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30
seconds
> > > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > > entered correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I
didn't
> > > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > > >
> > > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Carl Kehley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
>
>

[newbie] ya know guys....I really don't care to read your...

[Jim]

Ya know guys...I really don't care to read your petty bickerings.  I am here
for linux help...if I wanted lessons on netiquette I'd subscribe to a list
concerning thathowever this is linux...take your pettiness to private
please...

Jim

- Original Message -
From: "Ed Tharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "flupke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] NOT Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation


Allen, just because in your neighborhood yelling is a negative thing, in my
neighborhood yelling is considered good, but out putting out one groups
(your) social ideas of right and wrong are considered very VERY negative.
we generally would keep it off a mail list and flame each other
individually.

but my next-door neighbor said "FLUPKE SHUT UP...WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT John
Deere tractors and fertilizer spreaders anyway.

He also said he stands behind all his work. (he repairs fertilizer
spreaders).
- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation


> flupkebecause your opinion/solution and mine differ is no
> reason to be rude towards me when you expound upon your own
> remedy.  Yelling that my suggestion to help this person was
> 'BAD' was simply not called for and I resent it.
>
> Yelling in general is rude, but what you said, in the manner
> in which you said it, was pompous and condescending in the
> extreme as well as just plain rude.
>
> Please contemplate and consider the above comments when
> composing future public messages.
>
> Alan
>
>
> flupke wrote:
> >
> > I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE
OS.
> > Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
> > is NOT windows!
> > If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
> > just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you
are
> > done.
> > Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
> > just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the
whole
> > thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level,
the
> > internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.
> >
> > Sorry, but I had to say it.
> > Flupke
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > > occured.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech
MouseMan+,
> > > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but
I've
> > > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > > >
> > > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?
I've
> > > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30
seconds
> > > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > > entered correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I
didn't
> > > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > > >
> > > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Carl Kehley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
>
>

[newbie] NFS Install

[Randy]

I downloaded the Iso images and loop mounted them on my server.

Then I added the share directory in my exports config.

When I mounted the directory on my workstation the directories where I mounted
the Iso's are empty.  The other files in the share are available.

I'm planning to do my upgrade this way. Once I get it working right.

Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong.  I'm new to using NFS.

BTW: I added the directory on my server with Samba and imported it on my
workstation with no problem.  I was able to see the loop mounted iso's.

Thanks

[newbie] Adaptec SCSI 1510

[Mark Bevivino]

I posted a question about this earlier but did not 
see it appear. Does anyone have any experience installing Linux using this SCSI 
adapter? The boot disk does not recognize it without additional parameters (not 
that I know what they are). Thanks.
 
-Mark

[newbie] What happerned to "setup"

[Jaguar]

I just reinstalled MDK 7.0 after a HD failure, and was trying to use "setup"
from a command line to configure my Opti 82C929 sound card.  I can't find
"setup", what is the RPM, or file name to install/use "setup".
TIA
Jaguar

The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.


Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com.

Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation

[poogle]

While I understand your feelings and in no way wishing to get involved in the
rights and wrongs of the issue I would suggest that yelling and response do not
best serve this user group. We have seen "public arguments" recently involving
others. Could I please ask that we all show restraint in public, our e mail
addresses are available for personal replies. Please flame me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (heh)



On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> flupkebecause your opinion/solution and mine differ is no
> reason to be rude towards me when you expound upon your own
> remedy.  Yelling that my suggestion to help this person was
> 'BAD' was simply not called for and I resent it.  
> 
> Yelling in general is rude, but what you said, in the manner
> in which you said it, was pompous and condescending in the
> extreme as well as just plain rude.  
> 
> Please contemplate and consider the above comments when
> composing future public messages.
> 
> Alan
>  
> 
> flupke wrote:
> > 
> > I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE OS.
> > Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
> > is NOT windows!
> > If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
> > just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you are
> > done.
> > Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
> > just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the whole
> > thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level, the
> > internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.
> > 
> > Sorry, but I had to say it.
> > Flupke
> > 
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > 
> > > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > > occured.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech MouseMan+,
> > > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but I've
> > > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > > >
> > > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?  I've
> > > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30 seconds
> > > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > > entered correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I didn't
> > > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > > >
> > > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Carl Kehley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
-- 
 
* How can I Automount my brain at boot time ? *
  

Re: [newbie] NOT Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation

[Ed Tharp]

Allen, just because in your neighborhood yelling is a negative thing, in my
neighborhood yelling is considered good, but out putting out one groups
(your) social ideas of right and wrong are considered very VERY negative.
we generally would keep it off a mail list and flame each other
individually.

but my next-door neighbor said "FLUPKE SHUT UP...WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT John
Deere tractors and fertilizer spreaders anyway.

He also said he stands behind all his work. (he repairs fertilizer
spreaders).
- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: flupke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation


> flupkebecause your opinion/solution and mine differ is no
> reason to be rude towards me when you expound upon your own
> remedy.  Yelling that my suggestion to help this person was
> 'BAD' was simply not called for and I resent it.
>
> Yelling in general is rude, but what you said, in the manner
> in which you said it, was pompous and condescending in the
> extreme as well as just plain rude.
>
> Please contemplate and consider the above comments when
> composing future public messages.
>
> Alan
>
>
> flupke wrote:
> >
> > I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE
OS.
> > Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
> > is NOT windows!
> > If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
> > just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you
are
> > done.
> > Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
> > just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the
whole
> > thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level,
the
> > internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.
> >
> > Sorry, but I had to say it.
> > Flupke
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > > occured.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech
MouseMan+,
> > > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but
I've
> > > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > > >
> > > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?
I've
> > > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30
seconds
> > > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > > entered correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I
didn't
> > > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > > >
> > > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Carl Kehley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Cannot Access Website & Mail

[Ed Tharp]

damn, I missed a step, after "right click the connection you use," and
before, "in the window that comes up you will see a tab for server
types, click that", 
 I should have added, " select and open 'properties'"
sorry . please see the disclaimer that says "I bees a NEWBIE (and
proud)" so please do not follow me into diving into the shallow end of
the pool.

Ed Tharp wrote:
> 
> not to be a winblows wise guy, but if you put DNS under networking, it
> works for the lan card (for say... proxy use) and under dialup
> networking you find the DNS settings if you go to dialup networking,
> right click the connection you use, in the window that comes up you will
> see a tab for server types, click that and the window that comes up has
> a box at the bottom with check boxes for NetBEUI, IPX?SPX compatible and
> TCP/IP, if TCP/IP is checked (and it must be for internet connection,
> you will find a box that says "TCP/IP Settings",  click that and you see
> that you have DNS settings for the TCP/IP that your dialup connection
> uses.
> 
> 
> 
> Fran Parker wrote:
> >
> > Actually in Windows the DNS is under the networking stuff, not under
> > the dialer.
> >
> > Bambi
> >
> > A&L wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings!
> > >
> > > My thanks to Fred Banana and Gary for their help. Their suggestion did
> > > indeed cured my problem.
> > >
> > > My only surprise is that in Win98 I am able to connect to the net
> > > *without* any DNS number; so this is somewhat new to me.
> > >
> > > Thank you and best regards,
> > >
> > > Al
>

[newbie] howcome root can not do squat anymore??

[Ed Tharp]

I wonder how often the word "reinstall" shows up on this list and how
many less times it shows up in the expert or cooker lists. I have long
believed that "reinstall" was a holdover from our micro-shaft
experiences. What do you say about that Denis? 

Heck I must have reinstalled thirty times when i first got mandrake,
until I finally got it going to suit me... 

Now i have another problem that I will proly have to search the archives
for unless i can get help here for... 

I was logged in as root, (I know, I know…  Who could be so freaking
dumb,) playing around experimenting with different windows managers and
now I can not do anything as root, will not even open a console from KDE
or X at all, all I can get to work is "logout". I bet it must be a
permissions thing... but I need to know where... 
Oh well I have already read the news so it's off to linux-mandrake.com.
to find some answers.

Ed

Re: [newbie] Packages

[Ed Tharp]

frank wrote:
> 
> i share your concern over the number of packages
> that seem to never be used...linux grew as an OS
> for programmers, system administrators, etc., and
> the major distributions include masses of "stuff"
> that holds no interest for those of us who do not
> live lives focused on our monitors...browsing
> through the package manager (a quicker tour, than
> rpm commands at the console) reminds one of the
> apartments of older women who've never learned to
> discard what is not in use...knick-knacks
> and mementos everywhere, all of great import to
> the occupant, but of little use or interest to
> others...does one really need a half dozen tea
> sets sitting on various end tables, or a dozen
> different mail clients...
> 
> but what to discard??...i, too, would like to
> trim the size of my mandrake system, but am
> often unsure of which packages are essential to
> its operation...a web site that detailed each
> package would help...even better would be a
> program within mandrake, where i could sort
> through a detailed list of all packages, have all
> dependency problems automatically resolved, and
> then delete in mass all those i found
> un-neededi'd prefer being able to do such a
> mass deletion after mandrake is up and running,
> as that would allow browsing the programs, rather
> than depending on the name and short description
> given at installation time...ideally, i'd be able
> to save "my list" of packages to floppy, and use
> it at installation time if i re-install the whole
> system on this or another computer...
> 
> perhaps this is all possible now...perhaps some
> package in mandrake accomplishes just what i've
> suggested...if so, i'd like to be pointed toward
> it...
> 
> frank
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > Hi,All
> >
> > I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that
> > gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to
> > know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by
> > taking everything that is offered in the install.
> > This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Robert F. Trettel
> --
 ah heck... jest get one o'dem der big assed hard drives and install
it all

Re: [newbie] Packages

[Fran Parker]

sorry, frank...I really disagree with you, big time.

the packages are a wonderful bundle of joy to me,
those I don't use, I delete.  If it is used by something
else, it tells you.  If you aren't sure, you leave it alone
till you do.  There have been many times when I found
some interesting tidbit on the web, some cool program,
and when I looked, and I do look, many times it is installed
and all I need to do is query it to find the executable and
create a desktop.lnk and go.

Just a newbie's opinion,

Bambi

frank wrote:

> i share your concern over the number of packages
> that seem to never be used...linux grew as an OS
> for programmers, system administrators, etc., and
> the major distributions include masses of "stuff"
> that holds no interest for those of us who do not
> live lives focused on our monitors...browsing
> through the package manager (a quicker tour, than
> rpm commands at the console) reminds one of the
> apartments of older women who've never learned to
> discard what is not in use...knick-knacks
> and mementos everywhere, all of great import to
> the occupant, but of little use or interest to
> others...does one really need a half dozen tea
> sets sitting on various end tables, or a dozen
> different mail clients...
>
> but what to discard??...i, too, would like to
> trim the size of my mandrake system, but am
> often unsure of which packages are essential to
> its operation...a web site that detailed each
> package would help...even better would be a
> program within mandrake, where i could sort
> through a detailed list of all packages, have all
> dependency problems automatically resolved, and
> then delete in mass all those i found
> un-neededi'd prefer being able to do such a
> mass deletion after mandrake is up and running,
> as that would allow browsing the programs, rather
> than depending on the name and short description
> given at installation time...ideally, i'd be able
> to save "my list" of packages to floppy, and use
> it at installation time if i re-install the whole
> system on this or another computer...
>
> perhaps this is all possible now...perhaps some
> package in mandrake accomplishes just what i've
> suggested...if so, i'd like to be pointed toward
> it...
>
> frank
>
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > Hi,All
> >
> > I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that
> > gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to
> > know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by
> > taking everything that is offered in the install.
> > This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Robert F. Trettel
> --

Re: [newbie] Installation help on 7.0

[Ed Tharp]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> how do i find out if i have one?
I am guessing you are asking about SCSI. (it sometimes help to include
the important part of the message you are replying to.

what makes you think you have one?
what kind of computer do you have?
how many hard drives do you have?

do you have a scanner or other added items(besides a printer or mouse)?

in windows, you can go to control panel, select and open system, select
Device Manager, make sure the "devices by type" is got the dot in the
circle, look for an entry "SCSI Controlers"(start > settings > control
panel > system > Device Manager > Devices by type) if you do not see
it... then most chance you ain't got one.

Re: [newbie] Installation help on 7.0

[Ot Ratsaphong]

Hmmm...

I don't have a SCSI interface card so I've not had to find out but there are
many ways you can find out.

1. Check with your PC supplier. He might be able to help you.

2. If you have Windows installed, Start up the control Panel. Double-Click
on the System Icon. Click on the Device Manager Tab and see if you can find
any reference to a SCAI device.

Ot  8^)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, 14 June 2000 1:33
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation help on 7.0


>how do i find out if i have one?

Re: [newbie] Doom question...

[Fran Parker]

I looked at the .lxdoom in home/fran directory
it is an empty file 

Maybe that is the problem, huh?

What is supposed to be there?
I don't think it ever got far enough to write anything.

(also yes, the wad file is in the /usr/share/games/doom
directory and I did rename it to doom.wad

I will rename it DOOM.WAD  ... Linux is very case sensitive.

Bambi


"Ronald J. Hall" wrote:

> Fran Parker wrote:
> >
> > Hi Trevor and all,
> >
> > I tried it both ways after I moved both of the doom wad files
> > I have into the /usr/share/games/doom directory.
> >
> > Here are my results:
> >
> > [fran@flp fran]$ lxdoom -f /usr/share/games/doom/DOOM.WAD
> > LxDoom v1.4.0 - By Colin Phipps (see http://lxdoom.linuxgames.com/)
>
> Hi Fran. Sorry you are still having problems.
>
> Hmm, don't know if it makes any difference or not but I'm using v1.4.4,
> I think. Also my setup has:
>
> boomlump.wad
> doom1.wad
>
> in /usr/share/games/doom
>
> Do you have that first file in there? Also, how
> about renaming your current .wad to doom1.wad just to see what happens.
>
> One more thing. Why don't you post your .config
> file here. (from your /home directory). Its in
> a hidden dir called .lxdoom, and contains the
> boom.config file and tranmap.dat.
>
> See ya!

Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation

[Alan Shoemaker]

flupkebecause your opinion/solution and mine differ is no
reason to be rude towards me when you expound upon your own
remedy.  Yelling that my suggestion to help this person was
'BAD' was simply not called for and I resent it.  

Yelling in general is rude, but what you said, in the manner
in which you said it, was pompous and condescending in the
extreme as well as just plain rude.  

Please contemplate and consider the above comments when
composing future public messages.

Alan
 

flupke wrote:
> 
> I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE OS.
> Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
> is NOT windows!
> If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
> just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you are
> done.
> Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
> just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the whole
> thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level, the
> internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.
> 
> Sorry, but I had to say it.
> Flupke
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > occured.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > >
> > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech MouseMan+,
> > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but I've
> > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > >
> > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?  I've
> > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30 seconds
> > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > entered correctly.
> > >
> > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I didn't
> > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > >
> > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Carl Kehley
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> << There's no place like ~ ! >>

Re: [newbie] Installation help on 7.0

[Mark Bevivino]

have one what?
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation help on 7.0


> how do i find out if i have one?
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Packages

[frank]

i share your concern over the number of packages
that seem to never be used...linux grew as an OS
for programmers, system administrators, etc., and
the major distributions include masses of "stuff"
that holds no interest for those of us who do not
live lives focused on our monitors...browsing
through the package manager (a quicker tour, than
rpm commands at the console) reminds one of the
apartments of older women who've never learned to
discard what is not in use...knick-knacks
and mementos everywhere, all of great import to
the occupant, but of little use or interest to
others...does one really need a half dozen tea
sets sitting on various end tables, or a dozen
different mail clients...

but what to discard??...i, too, would like to
trim the size of my mandrake system, but am
often unsure of which packages are essential to
its operation...a web site that detailed each
package would help...even better would be a
program within mandrake, where i could sort
through a detailed list of all packages, have all
dependency problems automatically resolved, and
then delete in mass all those i found
un-neededi'd prefer being able to do such a
mass deletion after mandrake is up and running,
as that would allow browsing the programs, rather
than depending on the name and short description
given at installation time...ideally, i'd be able
to save "my list" of packages to floppy, and use
it at installation time if i re-install the whole
system on this or another computer...

perhaps this is all possible now...perhaps some
package in mandrake accomplishes just what i've
suggested...if so, i'd like to be pointed toward
it...

frank




On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Hi,All
> 
> I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that 
> gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to 
> know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by 
> taking everything that is offered in the install.
> This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.
> 
> Thanks
> Robert F. Trettel
-- 

Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation

[Alan Shoemaker]

Carlduring the x-setup section of installation, pretty
much the very last thing you do before re-boot.

Alan


Carl Kehley wrote:
> 
> Alan,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I did not even get an option on the XF86 version.
> Where was it listed, under chosing individual packages?
> 
> Carl
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> > Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> > installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> > and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> > occured.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Carl Kehley wrote:
> > >
> > > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech MouseMan+,
> > > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but I've
> > > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > >
> > > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?  I've
> > > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30 seconds
> > > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > > entered correctly.
> > >
> > > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I didn't
> > > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > >
> > > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Carl Kehley

Re: [newbie] Doom question...

[Ronald J. Hall]

Fran Parker wrote:
> 
> Hi Trevor and all,
> 
> I tried it both ways after I moved both of the doom wad files
> I have into the /usr/share/games/doom directory.
> 
> Here are my results:
> 
> [fran@flp fran]$ lxdoom -f /usr/share/games/doom/DOOM.WAD
> LxDoom v1.4.0 - By Colin Phipps (see http://lxdoom.linuxgames.com/)

Hi Fran. Sorry you are still having problems.

Hmm, don't know if it makes any difference or not but I'm using v1.4.4,
I think. Also my setup has:

boomlump.wad
doom1.wad

in /usr/share/games/doom

Do you have that first file in there? Also, how
about renaming your current .wad to doom1.wad just to see what happens.

One more thing. Why don't you post your .config
file here. (from your /home directory). Its in
a hidden dir called .lxdoom, and contains the
boom.config file and tranmap.dat.

See ya!

Re: [newbie] Installation help on 7.0

[Yankees007]

how do i find out if i have one?

Re: [newbie] Cannot Access Website & Mail

[Ed Tharp]

not to be a winblows wise guy, but if you put DNS under networking, it
works for the lan card (for say... proxy use) and under dialup
networking you find the DNS settings if you go to dialup networking,
right click the connection you use, in the window that comes up you will
see a tab for server types, click that and the window that comes up has
a box at the bottom with check boxes for NetBEUI, IPX?SPX compatible and
TCP/IP, if TCP/IP is checked (and it must be for internet connection,
you will find a box that says "TCP/IP Settings",  click that and you see
that you have DNS settings for the TCP/IP that your dialup connection
uses. 

 

Fran Parker wrote:
> 
> Actually in Windows the DNS is under the networking stuff, not under
> the dialer.
> 
> Bambi
> 
> A&L wrote:
> 
> > Greetings!
> >
> > My thanks to Fred Banana and Gary for their help. Their suggestion did
> > indeed cured my problem.
> >
> > My only surprise is that in Win98 I am able to connect to the net
> > *without* any DNS number; so this is somewhat new to me.
> >
> > Thank you and best regards,
> >
> > Al
> >
> > =
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Chances are that when you setup KPPP, you forgot to get the primary
> > > and secondary DNS server numbers from you ISP.  You must have these in
> > > order to connect to the outside world.  Open KPPP, and edit your info
> > > and put in the DNS numbers.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >  Gary

[newbie] Installation problem with Mandrake 7.1

[Poul Varming]

I have a problem with the Mandrake 7.1 installation: When is reaches "Configure
X" it keeps prompting that it can't locate the RPM package "xfree86-" !?  
I have tried Automated and Customized (Development) installation with the
same result.
I did not have any problems installing Mandrake 7.0 on the same computer.
The configuration of the computer is: AMD Athlon 700MHz CPU, 128MB SD-RAM,
16GB IDE HD, Diamond Viper II (Savage2000) graphics card, Logitech
Cordless Desktop.
Does anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks
Poul
-- 
Poul Varming
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +45 4525 3775
Fax:   +45 4593 6581
WWW:   http://www.com.dtu.dk/
 

Re: [newbie] Packages

[flupke]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Robert F. Trettel wrote:

> Hi,All
> 
> I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that 
> gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to 
> know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by 
> taking everything that is offered in the install.
> This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.
> 
> Thanks
> Robert F. Trettel

You might want to learn a bit about the use of the rpm command :
To list all the packages installed in your comp, use :
  rpm -qa
To have infos about an installed package, use :
  rpm -qi 
To have infos about an uninstalled package, use :
  rpm -qpi 

To have a list of the files contained in a package, replace the i by a l.

For A LOT more infos about rpm, read "maximum rpm" available at
http://www.rpm.org.

HTH
Flupke

-- 
<< There's no place like ~ ! >>

Re: [newbie] Problems with comp.ne2000(a) in Mandrake 7.0-2

[iagoba]

Thanks a lot flupke, I would try to do it this night! :) sure it works!
:)

flupke wrote:
> 
> ok. Start netconf, choose "basic host informations", then fill in the
> requested fields in "Host Name" and "Adaptator 1".
> Once this is correctly done, you should be able to ping the nic on your
> comp and also the one in the other comps of your network. Apparently, you
> already have done that.
> 
> You don't need to set up neither a DNS nor a gateway, as long as you stay
> on your local network. You could maybe fill your /etc/hosts to be able to
> write "ping winhost" instead of "ping 192.168.0.2".
> 
> Now, all you have to do is to install and configure the servers and
> clients that you need to communicate between your two comps. Usually,
> people like to set up samba in order to be able to share files between a
> win and a linux machine. Refer to the samba-HOWTO and to the docs
> available at www.samba.org to do that.
> 
> HTH
> Flupke
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, iagoba wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Flupke but my question is also, how configure the ip, and all
> > that things in the Linux? I thing that is using the Net Configuration
> > (netconf), as root, but I'm not sure if I must put more things than I
> > making:
> >
> > I'm filling the Basic equipment Information with this info:
> >
> > Host Name = iagoba.HouseRed
> > IP  = 179.0.3.2   <-- The other PC is 179.0.3.1
> > Mask= 255.255.255.0
> > ... = eth0
> > ... = ne
> > I/O = 0x240
> > IRQ = 0x11
> >
> > and I mark is as active, and Normal, I think that this all I must made
> > to configure my Linux PC, isn't it? perhaps I must fill the DNS or other
> > entries?
> >
> > flupke wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, iagoba wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oks, I finally could made than Linux detects my Ethernet Card, thanks to
> > > > all :)), but now I got the next problem, HOW can I configure my lan? I
> > > > got two computers in my house, connected by a Twisted RJ-45, the other
> > > > computer got W98 (and the modem to connect to Internet), how can I must
> > > > configure Linux to allow it to see the other computer, and the access to
> > > > Internet?
> > > To communicate between the two comps, once the two nics are properly
> > > setup, with private ip addresses, you're done. You can, for example,
> > > telnet your linux box from your windows. You can share your files by
> > > setting up samba on your linux box, ...
> > >
> > > To share your internet connection, it's another problem. You say that your
> > > modem is on your zInbl0w$ box. That's a bad, idea! You can use proxies and
> > > such, running under windows, but you shouldn't. It's not secure.
> > > The best way to do it, is to configure your modem on your linux box, and
> > > then setup the masquerading so that you will be able to browse the
> > > internet from your intranet.
> > > Read the ip-masquerading-HOWTO for more infos about that.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >   Thanks to all for your help, you're helping me a lot in my first
> > > > attempt to install this OS :)
> > > >
> > > >   Iagoba
> > > >
> > > > P.D.: I got other question, I develop in C++, I got one C++ compiler in
> > > > Linux, isn't it?
> > > Of course... It's called gcc.
> > >
> > > > Re-P.D.: Sorry for my English , I'm Spanish
> > > >
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > Flupke
> > >
> > > --
> > > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> << There's no place like ~ ! >>

Re: [newbie] Problems with comp.ne2000(a) in Mandrake 7.0-2

[flupke]

ok. Start netconf, choose "basic host informations", then fill in the
requested fields in "Host Name" and "Adaptator 1".
Once this is correctly done, you should be able to ping the nic on your
comp and also the one in the other comps of your network. Apparently, you
already have done that.

You don't need to set up neither a DNS nor a gateway, as long as you stay
on your local network. You could maybe fill your /etc/hosts to be able to
write "ping winhost" instead of "ping 192.168.0.2".

Now, all you have to do is to install and configure the servers and
clients that you need to communicate between your two comps. Usually,
people like to set up samba in order to be able to share files between a
win and a linux machine. Refer to the samba-HOWTO and to the docs
available at www.samba.org to do that.

HTH
Flupke

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, iagoba wrote:

> Thanks Flupke but my question is also, how configure the ip, and all
> that things in the Linux? I thing that is using the Net Configuration
> (netconf), as root, but I'm not sure if I must put more things than I
> making:
> 
> I'm filling the Basic equipment Information with this info:
> 
> Host Name = iagoba.HouseRed 
> IP  = 179.0.3.2   <-- The other PC is 179.0.3.1
> Mask= 255.255.255.0
> ... = eth0
> ... = ne
> I/O = 0x240
> IRQ = 0x11
> 
> and I mark is as active, and Normal, I think that this all I must made
> to configure my Linux PC, isn't it? perhaps I must fill the DNS or other
> entries?
> 
> flupke wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, iagoba wrote:
> > 
> > > Oks, I finally could made than Linux detects my Ethernet Card, thanks to
> > > all :)), but now I got the next problem, HOW can I configure my lan? I
> > > got two computers in my house, connected by a Twisted RJ-45, the other
> > > computer got W98 (and the modem to connect to Internet), how can I must
> > > configure Linux to allow it to see the other computer, and the access to
> > > Internet?
> > To communicate between the two comps, once the two nics are properly
> > setup, with private ip addresses, you're done. You can, for example,
> > telnet your linux box from your windows. You can share your files by
> > setting up samba on your linux box, ...
> > 
> > To share your internet connection, it's another problem. You say that your
> > modem is on your zInbl0w$ box. That's a bad, idea! You can use proxies and
> > such, running under windows, but you shouldn't. It's not secure.
> > The best way to do it, is to configure your modem on your linux box, and
> > then setup the masquerading so that you will be able to browse the
> > internet from your intranet.
> > Read the ip-masquerading-HOWTO for more infos about that.
> > 
> > >
> > >   Thanks to all for your help, you're helping me a lot in my first
> > > attempt to install this OS :)
> > >
> > >   Iagoba
> > >
> > > P.D.: I got other question, I develop in C++, I got one C++ compiler in
> > > Linux, isn't it?
> > Of course... It's called gcc.
> > 
> > > Re-P.D.: Sorry for my English , I'm Spanish
> > >
> > 
> > HTH
> > Flupke
> > 
> > --
> > << There's no place like ~ ! >>
> 
> 
> 

-- 
<< There's no place like ~ ! >>

RE: [newbie] How do I install a PCMCIA card on Mandrake Linux 7.0

[Michael Khachiki]

I know brand of it and the company name it is local (Australian company) but
I did not get a Linux driver with it. What do I do with that information?

I did install version 7.0 (with my friend's help) it did not give me any
problems. You are right it dose boot the PCMCIA card dose get started OK but
I can't get on the net. When Try to dial in to my ISP it gives me a message
"Modem is busy". It doesn't dial out. Do you know what that error message
means? Is it that my PCMCIA card is not installed or ??





-Original Message-
From: Pete Clapham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I install a PCMCIA card on Mandrake Linux
7.0


I had a similar problem under Mandrake 6.1 and solved it by upgrading to
7.0.  Under 6.1, I hadn't installed PCMCIA explicitly,
'cause I didn't have a PCMCIA card at that point), and even though the boot
script said it was started, it wasn't.  With the
version of 7.0 which I later purchased (Air; I borrowed another version to
see if it worked, and it didn't), PCMCIA support was
queried early in the installation, and I installed it on my laptop.  The
network adapter (a Linksys Ethernet card) appears to work.
(Can't use it for anything yet, but that's a Samba problem, not a PCMCIA
problem).

So --- are you sure that you've installed PCMCIA support?  It may be extreme
to reinstall from scratch, but this may solve your
problem.

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:21:05 +0200 (CEST), Paul wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Michael Khachiki wrote:
>
>>I can't find any documents on how to install a No Name PCMCIA card in
Linux.
>>with out it I can't get on the net from Linux. Please let me know how
should
>>I go about installing a No Name PCMCIA (Modem and LAN) on a laptop. I have
>>tried "man pcmcia" on the system. It showed me where I can find the pcmcia
>>config file. when I looked in that file, I could not find my pcmcia in the
>>list. How should I go about configuring my PCMCIA card ???
>
>If you have a no name card, with no idea who or what made it, and equally
>no clue as to the drivers needed, I am afraid you have a big problem.
>If you could figure out the brand of it, or what
>taiwanese/singapore/indian company made it, you could still stand a
>chance. Otherwise my bets would be on a pcmcia card that is supported by
>Linux. I know this is not the answer you want.
>
>Paul
>
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>Today is a Gift...That is why we call it The Present.
>
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Cleveland State University
Cleveland, Ohio, 44115
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[newbie] Packages

[Robert F. Trettel]

Hi,All

I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that 
gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to 
know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by 
taking everything that is offered in the install.
This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux.

Thanks
Robert F. Trettel

Re: [newbie] Problems with comp.ne2000(a) in Mandrake 7.0-2

[iagoba]

Thanks Flupke but my question is also, how configure the ip, and all
that things in the Linux? I thing that is using the Net Configuration
(netconf), as root, but I'm not sure if I must put more things than I
making:

I'm filling the Basic equipment Information with this info:

Host Name = iagoba.HouseRed 
IP= 179.0.3.2   <-- The other PC is 179.0.3.1
Mask  = 255.255.255.0
...   = eth0
...   = ne
I/O   = 0x240
IRQ   = 0x11

and I mark is as active, and Normal, I think that this all I must made
to configure my Linux PC, isn't it? perhaps I must fill the DNS or other
entries?

flupke wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, iagoba wrote:
> 
> > Oks, I finally could made than Linux detects my Ethernet Card, thanks to
> > all :)), but now I got the next problem, HOW can I configure my lan? I
> > got two computers in my house, connected by a Twisted RJ-45, the other
> > computer got W98 (and the modem to connect to Internet), how can I must
> > configure Linux to allow it to see the other computer, and the access to
> > Internet?
> To communicate between the two comps, once the two nics are properly
> setup, with private ip addresses, you're done. You can, for example,
> telnet your linux box from your windows. You can share your files by
> setting up samba on your linux box, ...
> 
> To share your internet connection, it's another problem. You say that your
> modem is on your zInbl0w$ box. That's a bad, idea! You can use proxies and
> such, running under windows, but you shouldn't. It's not secure.
> The best way to do it, is to configure your modem on your linux box, and
> then setup the masquerading so that you will be able to browse the
> internet from your intranet.
> Read the ip-masquerading-HOWTO for more infos about that.
> 
> >
> >   Thanks to all for your help, you're helping me a lot in my first
> > attempt to install this OS :)
> >
> >   Iagoba
> >
> > P.D.: I got other question, I develop in C++, I got one C++ compiler in
> > Linux, isn't it?
> Of course... It's called gcc.
> 
> > Re-P.D.: Sorry for my English , I'm Spanish
> >
> 
> HTH
> Flupke
> 
> --
> << There's no place like ~ ! >>

Re: [[newbie] Cannot Access Website & Mail]

[Michael Scottaline]

A&L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> This is my first mail to the group.
> 
> I successfully installed Mandrake 7.1 (my first adventure to the Linux
> OS!). My problem, however, is that I cannot access any website or
> download any email. I can connect and login to my ISP without any
> problem.
> 
> For instance, if I type http://www.netscape.com, I get the error
> message that it cannot connect to this name server.
> 
> What am I doing wrong? What do I need to do to access any website?
> 
> Any help from any guru would be highly appreciated!
> 
> Unfortunately, I am still using Win98 to get help :-(
> 
> 
> Thank you and best regards,
> 
> Al
===
As root, use a text editor to open /etc/resolv.conf
edit, adding the following 3 lines:

search 
nameserver 
nameserver 

Your isp should provide you with the dns#'s
HTH,
Mike

"Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
than alcohol has taken out of me."
--Winston Churchill


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Re: [newbie] Problems with Mandrake 7.1 installation

[flupke]

I also installed XFree4.0 while I shouldn't BUT I DIDN'T REINSTALL THE OS.
Please FORGET about this BAD idea! You are in a UNIX environnement! This
is NOT windows!
If you have installed XFree4.O and want to install XFree3.3.6, then you
just have to boot, uninstall XFree4.0 and install XFree3.3.6. And you are
done.
Everybody should understand that if one package has problems, then you
just handle the faulty package. And you don't have to reinstall the whole
thing from scratch. Could it be a problem with X, the security level, the
internet connection, or anything, you can repair it.

Sorry, but I had to say it.
Flupke


On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> Carlthat sounds like what I experienced when I first
> installed 7.1 and chose version 4 of XF86.  I reinstalled 7.1
> and picked version 3.6 of XF86 and those symptoms no longer
> occured. 
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> Carl Kehley wrote:
> > 
> > I just installed Mandrake 7.1 yesterday, development install from
> > install and ext. cd's, and I've got a few minor problems.  Any help
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > First, Mandrake refuses to recognize my mouse as  Logitech MouseMan+,
> > and instead keeps calling it a generic PS2.  I've changed it in the
> > mouseconfig in DrakConf, it's recognized correctly in Lothar, but I've
> > got no support for the wheel(even as a third button).
> > 
> > Next, gnome-ppp--what is meant by "remote name" in the config?  I've
> > set it up exactly the same as kppp, but it disconnects about 30 seconds
> > after the handshake, and I've got no dns, even though everything is
> > entered correctly.
> > 
> > Finally, there seem to be major conflicts between the RealPlayer 7
> > Netscape plugin and plugger in Communicator, to the point where
> > RealPlayer freezes and I've got to reboot to get my sound back.  I
> > remember seeing something similar in the list last week, but I didn't
> > save the message, and can't locate it in the archives.
> > 
> > Any help, advice, creative criticism gladly accepted.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Carl Kehley
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Doom question...Hardware that works well?

[michael]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Hey Michael,
> 
> Pretty much any p3 will do.  I've got an AMD K6-3 400
> that performs on par with my roommates p3 550 for
> every game we've ever played.  A 3dfx card will make
> playing older games like quake2, doom, etc easy to set
> up.  Quake 3 looks great on my system with 2 voodoo2's
> in SLI mode.  I have nothing but respect for matrox. 
> G200 & G400 are both great cards for gaming no matter
> which OS you are using.  128 megs of pc100 ram will do
> you just fine.  Get 133 and ECC if you can afford it
> and your motherboard supports ECC.
> 
> 
> Dacia 
> 
Thanks! I guess I'll have to go for the PC133(does it really make that much
diff?) and upgrade from my k62 500 ASUS P5A. My girlfriend and her 15 year old
son will be here next week and I want to have a system he'll be able to play
happily onwhy two voodoo2's?

I am new to the whole gaming world- if you'll read the posts on doom ?'s with
fran et al, you'll see I've yet to get it working (lxdoom, that is) on my linux
box. So I'm a dummy... but I try... :-)

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Re: [newbie] Problems with comp.ne2000(a) in Mandrake 7.0-2

[flupke]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, iagoba wrote:

> Oks, I finally could made than Linux detects my Ethernet Card, thanks to
> all :)), but now I got the next problem, HOW can I configure my lan? I
> got two computers in my house, connected by a Twisted RJ-45, the other
> computer got W98 (and the modem to connect to Internet), how can I must
> configure Linux to allow it to see the other computer, and the access to
> Internet? 
To communicate between the two comps, once the two nics are properly
setup, with private ip addresses, you're done. You can, for example,
telnet your linux box from your windows. You can share your files by
setting up samba on your linux box, ...

To share your internet connection, it's another problem. You say that your
modem is on your zInbl0w$ box. That's a bad, idea! You can use proxies and
such, running under windows, but you shouldn't. It's not secure.
The best way to do it, is to configure your modem on your linux box, and
then setup the masquerading so that you will be able to browse the
internet from your intranet.
Read the ip-masquerading-HOWTO for more infos about that.


> 
>   Thanks to all for your help, you're helping me a lot in my first
> attempt to install this OS :)
> 
>   Iagoba
> 
> P.D.: I got other question, I develop in C++, I got one C++ compiler in
> Linux, isn't it? 
Of course... It's called gcc.

> Re-P.D.: Sorry for my English , I'm Spanish 
> 

HTH
Flupke

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