Re: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.

[Sevatio Octavio]

Dennis,

I hope these will help you out.  Put these into /usr/share/icons/

Seve

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:18 PM
Subject: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.


>Here I am with all indications that real player 7 down loaded and
>installed.  It shows up in RPM/files and is set in /usr/bin and
>usr/local with a whole bunch of /usr/lib files.  Ok, how do I know it is
>working? It also shows up in /usr/local/netscape/plugins. I don't know
>if or how I should put an icon on the desk top or on the tray ala MS
>Windows.  Any ideas on if I installed ok and how to make an icon, any
>icon for that matter.
>
>

 rp7.xpm
 rprod.xpm
 rprod-wine.xpm

[newbie] KPPP again

[Glyn Millington]

Hi!

As I wrote yesterday, I can log-on with kppp (using Mandrake 7.1)
but not get fetchmail to to download or lynx to act.  Using a
shell script of my own I can do all these things.

I changed /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to match /etc/resolv.conf and
everything worked fine with kppp

something seems to have re-written my /etc/ppp/resolv.conf file
and now even if I change it back it will not cut the mustard...

any ideas??

This is /etc/resolv.conf

search localdomain
nameserver 212.1.130.10
nameserver 212.1.128.156



TIA

Glyn M.


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Re: [newbie] Printer Epson

[toyswins]

I have a Epson Stylus 400 Color and there is no specific driver for it
in my version 6.5 however, there is a generic Epson Stylus driver.  Try
installing that and see if it works.

Sorry no more help from me on this one, but I just did this about 4 days
ago and never was able to get it to work before.

Good luck.

Gustavo Halperin wrote:
> 
>   I have the printer Epson  Stylus Color 670
>   The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but
> when
>  I send any think is not print,  What I can to do 
> 
> --
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> .._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/
> ._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/.
> _/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/..
> .Gustavo Halperin...
> .Paradigm Geophysical..\\\Y///.
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> .972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ \)..
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> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

[newbie] 3COM 3C905C-TX Network Card

[Intercom]

Hi, i hope anyone can help with this:I can't install 
driver for network card 3COM 3C905C-TX
ExternalParallel Interface100 MBI'm using 
LM 7.0 Deluxe with kernel 
2.2.14-15MDKThanks

[newbie] partition (drive) access

[Sean David McCurry-Nieto]

I was wondering if someone could answer a technical question for me.

Recently I installed Mandrake 7.1 on my personal computer.  Mandrake will 
automaticaly mount your media for you, whether it's HDs, zips, cds, etc.  I am 
using a dual boot system, windows and then of course linux.  On the windows 
partition I have two drives, C:\ and D:\  Well when I am running Linux, I can 
see both of the windows partitions and can even access the files across the 
partition (from Linux onto windows).  But when I boot into Windows I can't  see 
the D:\ drive.  I can access the C but can't even see the D.  Does anybody have 
any suggestions as to what I can do to resolve this?

Sean

Re: [newbie] What's wrong with my gcc?

[Kit Goins]

you must first install ALL the "devel" rpm's  then it should be fine

On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> My test.cpp is just a stupid program like this:
> #include 
> 
> void main()
> {
>  for(int i = 0; i < 11; i++)
>   cout << i << endl;
> }
> 
> [root@localhost /root]# gcc test.cpp
> In file included from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/_G_config.h:9,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:31,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h:36,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/iostream.h:31,
> 
>  from test.cpp:1:
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/include/gnu/types.h:4:
> gnu/types.h: No such file or directory
> 
> Here's my
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/include/gnu/types.h:
> 
> /* This file fixes __FD_ZERO bug for glibc-1.x. */
> #ifndef _TYPES_H_WRAPPER
> #include 
> #include_next 
> 
> #if defined(__FD_ZERO) && !defined(__GLIBC__)
> #undef __FD_ZERO
> # define __FD_ZERO(fdsetp) \
>   do { \
> int __d0, __d1; \
>  __asm__ __volatile__("cld ; rep ; stosl" \
>  : "=&c" (__d0), "=&D" (__d1) \
>  : "a" (0), "0" (__FDSET_LONGS), \
> "1" ((__fd_set *) (fdsetp)) :"memory"); \
>   } while (0)
> #endif
> 
> #define _TYPES_H_WRAPPER
> #endif /* _TYPES_H_WRAPPER */
> Q
> 
> I created a link in /usr/include/gnu to the former,
> 
> [root@localhost /root]# gcc test.cpp
> In file included from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/include/gnu/types.h:4,
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/_G_config.h:9,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:31,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h:36,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/iostream.h:31,
> 
>  from test.cpp:1:
> /usr/include/gnu/types.h:4: No include path in which to find gnu/types.h
> 
> What's the difference between
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/include/gnu/types.h and
> /usr/include/gnu/types.h?
> I copied /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/include/gnu/types.h
> 
> to /usr/include/gnu and remarked the fourth line,
> 
> [root@localhost /root]# gcc test.cpp
> In file included from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/_G_config.h:13,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:31,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h:36,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/iostream.h:31,
> 
>  from test.cpp:1:
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/include/stddef.h:170: syntax
> 
> error before `typedef'
> In file included from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h:36,
> 
>  from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/iostream.h:31,
> 
>  from test.cpp:1:
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:210:
> 
> syntax error before `;'
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:237:
> 
> `read' was not declared in this scope
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:237:
> 
> type specifier omitted for parameter
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:237:
> 
> function `int __ssize_t(_IO_FILE *, void *)' is initialized like a
> variable
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:238:
> 
> `write' was not declared in this scope
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:238:
> 
> type specifier omitted for parameter
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:238:
> 
> function `int __ssize_t(_IO_FILE *, const void *)' is initialized like a
> 
> variable
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:238:
> 
> declaration of C function `int __ssize_t(_IO_FILE *, const void *)'
> conflicts with
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:237:
> 
> previous declaration `int __ssize_t(_IO_FILE *, void *)' here
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:239:
> 
> `seek' was not declared in this scope
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/libio.h:239:
> 
> type specifier omitted for parameter
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux

[newbie] PMfirewall

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hello list,
I setted-up PMfirewall with the help og Dennis Myers.
Very impressive.
All ports closed.
This on a STANDALONE WORKSTATION Not connected to a network
!
I recommend it fully.
Eric

[newbie] me again with my install problem:-)

[Nikola Pizurica]

OK, while searching left and right, I found that "depslist.ordered 
mismatch against hdlist files" problem is not hurting only me.
This is from dejanews:
(probablu URL is messed up)
http://x61.deja.com/dnquery.xp?search=next&DBS=2&IS=
%22depslist.ordered%20mismatch%20against%20hdlist%20files%22&ST=MS&
offsets=&CONTEXT=962834757.1316749408

So, has there been a working solution for this bug?
I think Mandrake is sooo nice distro. Since I work on best TV show 
about computers here in Yugoslavia, I was thinking of making a 7-minute 
Linux feature. Since our show is targeting ordinary PC users, I was 
thinking of showing what Linux can offer as desktop OS. 
So, to cut the long story short, I was planing to show Mandrake, but 
maybe, if I don't get it to install, I'll have to install RH6.2 :-)
Nikola

Re: [newbie] 1.4 GB overkill for /boot?

[Paul]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Philomena wrote:

>Hi,
>
>My question was a little off the topic - I didn't have the size question - 
>my question was that I didn't realize that you could setup an install 
>without a /boot partition, and was wondering how this was done.
>
>Thx,
>philomena

My guess would be that you make a /boot directory, instead of a /boot
partition.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling

[Paul]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Marcia Waller wrote:

You can run /opt/soffice/bin/soffice (If you installed it in
/opt/soffice).

Good luck!
Paul

>Dear anyone, I have the Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete and I thought I
>installed it from the CD#3 last night. It shows up in the Kpack window
>as installed I believe, but I do not know how to open and use the
>program. There is no icon on my desktop. I would like to do this the
>easy way if possible such as through KPackage or RPMDrake. Thank you
>very much for your help. Sincerely, Marcia Waller
>
>

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Re: [newbie] How to set internet in Linux Mandrake????????

[Paul]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, majid L wrote:

>Just  installed Linux Mandrake, I am using two internet in windows 98,
>one from my school ( ppp account) and another free internet, could you
>please show me how to do the same thing under Linux, what do I have to
>set.
>Your help will be appreciated.

Do you use a modem? Use kppp.
Do you use ISDN? Use http://www.wurtel.demon.nl
Do you use something else? Don't know...

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Vacation Time

[Paul]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, John Arkoulis wrote:

>When I come back what do I do Paul???
>
>
>> write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> and in the body text you write
>> 
>> set newbie nomail

Then you write to the same address and tell it to

set newbie mail

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.

[Dennis Myers]

Well I tried the b2.bin download and  did a chmod and the ./INSTALL , nothing
happened.  No install to or anything just took me back to the "root@localhost
"# line.  There must be a pattern to downloads and installations that I am
missing cause I don't see consistancy in the way these programs are installed.
Anyway, I now will begin to try to uninstall and try to regain my verve for
Linux. Some of this seems to much like a guessing game, guess where the file
is, guess where you should put it and then guess if it will work correctly.

Romanator wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The rpm version does not have icons or .xpms. You will have to go back
> to www.real.com
> and download rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin.  It's a larger install and
> it provides the icons(.xpms).
>
> You must login as 'root', and download the file to your 'root'
> directory. After the download, open up xterm or console, and type in the
> following:
>
> A)
> chmod u+x rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin
>
> B) Press the 'enter' key
>
> C) It will create an installation directory in root called
> ILINXR.install or something like that. It's been some time since I've
> installed it. Type in: ./INSTALL
>
> D)
> Install it to /usr/X11R6/bin/RealPlayer7. Actually it can be installed
> to /usr/local but that's a matter of preference.
> E) Navigate to the RealPlayer 7 folder and copy rp7.xpm(this is the
> large icon) to /usr/share/icons
> F) Copy the rp7mini.xpm icon file to /usr/share/icons/mini
>
> Remember, Linux does not use the .ico file extension but .xpm file
> extensions for the icon files. Windows uses .ico file extensions.
>
> In addition, check out the emails from the last 1 - 2 months. All of the
> instructions that you need are already there. This topic has been
> covered dozens and dozens of times.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Roman
>
> Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> >
> > Dennis Myers wrote:
> > >
> > > Here I am with all indications that real player 7 down loaded and
> > > installed.  It shows up in RPM/files and is set in /usr/bin and
> > > usr/local with a whole bunch of /usr/lib files.  Ok, how do I know it is
> > > working? It also shows up in /usr/local/netscape/plugins. I don't know
> > > if or how I should put an icon on the desk top or on the tray ala MS
> > > Windows.  Any ideas on if I installed ok and how to make an icon, any
> > > icon for that matter.
> > Hi Dennis,
> > download a file to play at
> > http://frederik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html
> > after that simply click on it.
> > Eric

Re: [newbie] hanging during booting.

[Khem ...]

 It's one of two things: either you need to specify Linear protocol for Lilo to 
eliminate the 'LI' boot failure. Or you should re-detect your hard drive in your bios 
to make sure it has the correct properties [cylynders, size, etc] especially if you 
have used a drive installer to put in a large HD. Also, you may want to change the 
partition that LILO is using to boot from. Put it on /dev/hda1 instead of the boot 
sector. That can sometimes help.

~Magnus

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On Tue, 04 Jul 2000 20:57:03   Justin Johnson wrote:
>
>after several, several installs of MDK 7.1, i finally reached a point where 
>i could no longer boot with a floppy (as the boot device, a normal boot 
>disk worked fine).  it would get to "stage 1" but no "stage 2" if i was 
>using grub, and get to "LI" without the "LO" if using LILO.
>
>and there it would stay, no disk activity and no floppy activity.
>
>i used a floppy to boot because i installed linux onto my second hard 
>drive, and kept my first drive completely untouched by linux.  but even 
>after putting the boot loader on my main drive, just to see what happened, 
>i still got the same things.
>
>when booting with a boot disk for the first time after an install, i could 
>get into linux.  but when trying it again, something was corrupted and it 
>couldn't mount the partition.
>
>my only conclusion is that i just simply gave my second hard drive such a 
>workout over several days of reinstallations, it had trouble finding and 
>switching to that partition upon booting.  this drive is very prone to 
>errors and developing bad sectors, so i'm not surprised.
>
>but it's so disappointing after a few days at the beginning of successful 
>installations, to not even be able to run it in any manner.  every day at 
>work i would look forward to getting home so i could play around in linux 
>some more (i'm fairly new to linux.)
>
>anyone else experienced anything like this?
>
>my only solution is that i'm building a new system soon anyway... i'll try 
>getting a brand new drive to try it out on again.
>
>---
>jj.
>
>


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Re: [newbie] Modem Audio

[kdm]

Impatient to get connected?
Get DSL or Cable  8)
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> >
> >   The only problem I have is
> > > the small internal speaker that plugs in the ASUS P5A motherboard does
> > > not seem to be operational.  The only reason I miss it is that I can no
> > > longer listen to the modem dial out and hear the handshake.  The modem
> > > is an internal 56K with the Rockwell chip set.  It came with the PC from
> > > QLI-Tech.  Neither the modem board or the little user manual identify
> > > the manufacturer.  The modem works fine and the log screen shows the
> > > 'ATM0L1" initialization string.  It isn't a major problem, but I'm
> > > clueless as to where I should go to resolve it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Barry :-)
> >
> >  Jeez Barry, most of us spent years tryin to figure out how to
> > silence the damn modem... you really wanna hear all that ??  ;)
> >
> >   If'n you're using Kppp, under Setup | Modem tab, there's a slider
> > for setting the modem volume.
> >
> >BUT, are ya really sure you wanna listen to that cr@p ??  Try
> > the sound of silence for a while, you just might like it better
> >
> >  --
> > ~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks Tom, I forgot about that.  I guess I'm from the old school.  I can
> usually tell when the handshake
> isn't going well because I've landed on one of the flakey modems at my ISP.
> A quick abort and redial
> can be done without having to wait on the modems to figure out they can't
> talk.
> 
> (On second thought, maybe its just my impatience to get connected.)
> 
> --
> Barry :-)

Re: [newbie] Modem Audio

[Barry Premeaux]

Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Barry,
>
> Out of curiousity, which driver did you use for your SB128?  I have a 512
> and have been unable to get it to work yet.
>
> Thanks
>
> Harry
>

Mandrake picked the Ensoniq 1371 driver.   (COL 2.2 was using the 1370
driver, but never
gave results comparable to this one.)

Barry


>
> Barry Premeaux wrote:
>
> > On Monday, I replaced Calderas Open Linux 2.2 with Mandrake 7.1.  Really
> > love the install.  It went smoothly with Mandrake finding all my
> > hardware, including my Stylus Color 850.  My SB128 sound card performs
> > far better than it ever did with COL 2.2.   The only problem I have is
> > the small internal speaker that plugs in the ASUS P5A motherboard does
> > not seem to be operational.  The only reason I miss it is that I can no
> > longer listen to the modem dial out and hear the handshake.  The modem
> > is an internal 56K with the Rockwell chip set.  It came with the PC from
> > QLI-Tech.  Neither the modem board or the little user manual identify
> > the manufacturer.  The modem works fine and the log screen shows the
> > 'ATM0L1" initialization string.  It isn't a major problem, but I'm
> > clueless as to where I should go to resolve it.
> >
> > --
> > Barry :-)
>
> --
> ___
>
> Harry Flaxman
> http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman
> ICQ # 22086907

--
Barry :-)

Re: [newbie] Modem Audio

[Barry Premeaux]

Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
>
>   The only problem I have is
> > the small internal speaker that plugs in the ASUS P5A motherboard does
> > not seem to be operational.  The only reason I miss it is that I can no
> > longer listen to the modem dial out and hear the handshake.  The modem
> > is an internal 56K with the Rockwell chip set.  It came with the PC from
> > QLI-Tech.  Neither the modem board or the little user manual identify
> > the manufacturer.  The modem works fine and the log screen shows the
> > 'ATM0L1" initialization string.  It isn't a major problem, but I'm
> > clueless as to where I should go to resolve it.
> >
> > --
> > Barry :-)
>
>  Jeez Barry, most of us spent years tryin to figure out how to
> silence the damn modem... you really wanna hear all that ??  ;)
>
>   If'n you're using Kppp, under Setup | Modem tab, there's a slider
> for setting the modem volume.
>
>BUT, are ya really sure you wanna listen to that cr@p ??  Try
> the sound of silence for a while, you just might like it better
>
>  --
> ~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks Tom, I forgot about that.  I guess I'm from the old school.  I can
usually tell when the handshake
isn't going well because I've landed on one of the flakey modems at my ISP.
A quick abort and redial
can be done without having to wait on the modems to figure out they can't
talk.

(On second thought, maybe its just my impatience to get connected.)

--
Barry :-)

Re: [newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!

[toyswins]

Answered this on another string I think, but used both and terminal
based also.  Results are gibberish on connect.  Something isn't right or
I'd get back legible data.  I think that's probably the only hurdle left
for my end then it'd work fine.  Also, if I can figure out Earthlink,
then I can work on my other ISP, S. W. Bell.

Thanks for the hint, got to checking them out just today...good
timing.

B. B. Stanfield III
KC5PIY

kdm wrote:
> 
> What kind of authentification are using?
> Have you tried changing PAP or CHAP?
> 
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > Well, sorry but having to revert to you folks for help.  Get this
> > message on dialing so the other end is hanging up immediately on
> > connect.  I've checked the various files in the HOWTO's and all seems
> > fine.  Used KPPP 1.6.22 as the dialer and to set up the system.  pppd is
> > 2.3.8 so I've provided the full fault message below.
> >
> > I've reloaded the entire Linux Mandrake 6.5 two times, no changes.  All
> > the startup files load okay.  As root, it's a pretty system, but hit
> > this glitch.
> >
> > pppd 2.3.8 started by root, uid0
> > Using interface ppp0
> > Connect ppp0<--->/dev/ttyS1
> > Hangup (SIGHUP)
> > Modemhangup
> > Connection terminated.
> > Exit
> >
> > This is what I understand so far: The modem is found, dials and gets a
> > machine on the other end.  The other machine then immediately initiated
> > a disconnect, (SIGHUP), then it disconnects at my end, gives me the
> > error message.
> >
> > ISP is S. W. Bell.  I've got the ADSL on the Windows system going fine,
> > but it dies now and then, also I travel and need access from other
> > locations.  The dialup on LINUX would be really handy, if I could get it
> > to work.  I know there's either a bug or three and need to update to
> > something or I've got some configuration problem.  Either way, I've
> > looked at it so long I'm not seeing it.  Pointers
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > B. B. Stanfield III
> > KC5PIY
> --
> 
> ...,   _  ___ ___     ,
> ...|\  \|/  / \  \ \   \/\/   /  /|
> [K][D][M]=== >  |  <   |  [] |  | ^^ |  < ===[K][D][M]
> ...|/  /|\__\ /__/ /__|\__/|__\  \|
> ...'  '

Re: [newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!

[toyswins]

Tried the NOAUTH but no luck.  As it stands now I've temporarily given
up on S. W. Bell.  Trying now to access my Earthlink ISP account.  This
one does the following:

1. Dials and handshakes
2. Connects
3. get string as follows:
f~f~ffxx~f~ffxfxxxfffxxx~~f~'ffxfffxfffxff~xxATZ
4. put in string:
Expect  ogin:
SendELN/dreamcrafts
Expect  sword:
Send (the password)

Without the string I get #3 above and then timeout.  With string of
course it waits for each line, times out, redials, then waits for next
line in string.  Obviously not getting through to send anything on the
string.  I think that part is useless.  Tried PAP, CHAP and terminal
based settings.  Also checked data in various files for correct server
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, secrets files, .conf files, etc.  I'm still missing
something.

Now it dials, connects, returns data, but it's gibberish.  Once over
that hurdle, I'll have it licked.  I remember seeing in the archives
someplace talk about the gibberish, but haven't been able to find it so
far.  Anyone remember and point me to that?

Thanks again so much.

B. B. Stanfield III
KC5PIY

Steve Elliott wrote:
> 
> A guy a few days back had a similar prob i think and the advice was to
> shove NOAUTH into the /etc/ppp.options file - or something similar - can
> someone correct me if i am wrong ? Please ..
> 
> toyswins wrote:
> >
> > Well, sorry but having to revert to you folks for help.  Get this
> > message on dialing so the other end is hanging up immediately on
> > connect.  I've checked the various files in the HOWTO's and all seems
> > fine.  Used KPPP 1.6.22 as the dialer and to set up the system.  pppd is
> > 2.3.8 so I've provided the full fault message below.
> >
> > I've reloaded the entire Linux Mandrake 6.5 two times, no changes.  All
> > the startup files load okay.  As root, it's a pretty system, but hit
> > this glitch.
> >
> > pppd 2.3.8 started by root, uid0
> > Using interface ppp0
> > Connect ppp0<--->/dev/ttyS1
> > Hangup (SIGHUP)
> > Modemhangup
> > Connection terminated.
> > Exit
> >
> > This is what I understand so far: The modem is found, dials and gets a
> > machine on the other end.  The other machine then immediately initiated
> > a disconnect, (SIGHUP), then it disconnects at my end, gives me the
> > error message.
> >
> > ISP is S. W. Bell.  I've got the ADSL on the Windows system going fine,
> > but it dies now and then, also I travel and need access from other
> > locations.  The dialup on LINUX would be really handy, if I could get it
> > to work.  I know there's either a bug or three and need to update to
> > something or I've got some configuration problem.  Either way, I've
> > looked at it so long I'm not seeing it.  Pointers
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > B. B. Stanfield III
> > KC5PIY

Re: [newbie] Vacation Time

[John Arkoulis]

When I come back what do I do Paul???


On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, also sprach:
> On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, John Arkoulis wrote:
> 
> write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> and in the body text you write
> 
> set newbie nomail
> 
> That's all
> Paul
> 
> >I know it has been answered before but please what is the best way to go if you
> >take a month of vacation without access to my e-mail??
> >My ISP provider will kill me if I accumulate 150 messages a day.
> >
> >  -- 
> >Windoze is a virus with a user interface.
> >This message was created with Linux
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> A turtle can tell more about the road
> than a hare
> 
> )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
> http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
> Registered  Linux  User   174403
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This message was created with Linux

[newbie] Acrobat Reader 4 & problem

[Joan Tur]

Hallo!
I've a problem with Acrobat Reader 4; it installs fine (rpm), but opening
some .pdf pages appear in black or cut by the middle...  8-?
Any idea?
Thanks.

   - Joan Tur -
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Ibiza -  Spain
 Joan.Tur.pagina.de
Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
 

[newbie] Two printers in Mandrake 7.0?

[Marcia Waller]

Dear anyone, I have Linux-Mandrake7.0 Complete and successfully
configured my Epson Stylus Color printer. I would like to use a 2nd
printer with this-an Okidata Ole 400 laser printer.  I use them both
with my Windows 95.May I do this with Linux? How can this be done? Thank
you for your help. Sincerely, Marcia

Re: [newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!

[TRBishop]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, Steve Elliott wrote:
> A guy a few days back had a similar prob i think and the advice was to
> shove NOAUTH into the /etc/ppp.options file - or something similar - can
> someone correct me if i am wrong ? Please ..
> 
> 
> toyswins wrote:
> > 
> > Well, sorry but having to revert to you folks for help.  Get this
> > message on dialing so the other end is hanging up immediately on
> > connect.  I've checked the various files in the HOWTO's and all seems
> > fine.  Used KPPP 1.6.22 as the dialer and to set up the system.  pppd is
> > 2.3.8 so I've provided the full fault message below.
> > 
> > I've reloaded the entire Linux Mandrake 6.5 two times, no changes.  All
> > the startup files load okay.  As root, it's a pretty system, but hit
> > this glitch.
> > 
> > pppd 2.3.8 started by root, uid0
> > Using interface ppp0
> > Connect ppp0<--->/dev/ttyS1
> > Hangup (SIGHUP)
> > Modemhangup
> > Connection terminated.
> > Exit
> > 
> > This is what I understand so far: The modem is found, dials and gets a
> > machine on the other end.  The other machine then immediately initiated
> > a disconnect, (SIGHUP), then it disconnects at my end, gives me the
> > error message.
> > 
> > ISP is S. W. Bell.  I've got the ADSL on the Windows system going fine,
> > but it dies now and then, also I travel and need access from other
> > locations.  The dialup on LINUX would be really handy, if I could get it
> > to work.  I know there's either a bug or three and need to update to
> > something or I've got some configuration problem.  Either way, I've
> > looked at it so long I'm not seeing it.  Pointers
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > B. B. Stanfield III
> > KC5PIY

Might also want to increase the timeout on the modemperhaps to 60.   Tom

Re: [newbie] Modem Audio

[TRBishop]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, Barry Premeaux wrote:
> On Monday, I replaced Calderas Open Linux 2.2 with Mandrake 7.1.  Really
> love the install.  It went smoothly with Mandrake finding all my
> hardware, including my Stylus Color 850.  My SB128 sound card performs
> far better than it ever did with COL 2.2.   The only problem I have is
> the small internal speaker that plugs in the ASUS P5A motherboard does
> not seem to be operational.  The only reason I miss it is that I can no
> longer listen to the modem dial out and hear the handshake.  The modem
> is an internal 56K with the Rockwell chip set.  It came with the PC from
> QLI-Tech.  Neither the modem board or the little user manual identify
> the manufacturer.  The modem works fine and the log screen shows the
> 'ATM0L1" initialization string.  It isn't a major problem, but I'm
> clueless as to where I should go to resolve it.
> 
> --
> Barry :-)


If you're using Kppp, there is a modem speaker setting in setup somewhere,  You
can make it talk to you again.  I believe the ATM0 indicates that the speaker
is off, whereas ATMQ (?) will produce sound.  Tom 

[newbie] How to set internet in Linux Mandrake????????

[majid L]

Just  installed Linux Mandrake, I am using two internet in windows 98,
one from my school ( ppp account) and another free internet, could you
please show me how to do the same thing under Linux, what do I have to
set.
Your help will be appreciated.



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Re: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.

[Mike & Tracy Holt]

If you have the extra time and want to mess around with the icons yourself,
you can go to the 'real' website and right click on the 'Real.com' graphic
in the upper left corner and save the image to your $user account.  Next,
open the image in the gimp and find the 'scale' tool (works a lot like
'crop') and scale the image down to the size you want for a desktop icon
then choose 'save as' and name the file whatever.xpm choosing 'xpm' as the
file extension from the drop down list.  Finally, close the gimp and right
click on the file that you saved choosing to open with the 'icon editor' and
you'll see your icon not only magnified, but in block form so you can erase
the parts you don't want and add to it whatever you want.

Maybe not as easy as just getting the other version, but it's kind of fun to
play with all the extra software that comes preconfigured on your Mandrake
system.

Mike

> Hi,
>
> The rpm version does not have icons or .xpms. You will have to go back
> to www.real.com
> and download rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin.  It's a larger install and
> it provides the icons(.xpms).
>
> You must login as 'root', and download the file to your 'root'
> directory. After the download, open up xterm or console, and type in the
> following:
>
> A)
> chmod u+x rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin
>
> B) Press the 'enter' key
>
> C) It will create an installation directory in root called
> ILINXR.install or something like that. It's been some time since I've
> installed it. Type in: ./INSTALL
>
> D)
> Install it to /usr/X11R6/bin/RealPlayer7. Actually it can be installed
> to /usr/local but that's a matter of preference.
> E) Navigate to the RealPlayer 7 folder and copy rp7.xpm(this is the
> large icon) to /usr/share/icons
> F) Copy the rp7mini.xpm icon file to /usr/share/icons/mini
>
> Remember, Linux does not use the .ico file extension but .xpm file
> extensions for the icon files. Windows uses .ico file extensions.
>
> In addition, check out the emails from the last 1 - 2 months. All of the
> instructions that you need are already there. This topic has been
> covered dozens and dozens of times.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Roman
>
> Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> >
> > Dennis Myers wrote:
> > >
> > > Here I am with all indications that real player 7 down loaded and
> > > installed.  It shows up in RPM/files and is set in /usr/bin and
> > > usr/local with a whole bunch of /usr/lib files.  Ok, how do I know it
is
> > > working? It also shows up in /usr/local/netscape/plugins. I don't know
> > > if or how I should put an icon on the desk top or on the tray ala MS
> > > Windows.  Any ideas on if I installed ok and how to make an icon, any
> > > icon for that matter.
> > Hi Dennis,
> > download a file to play at
> > http://frederik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html
> > after that simply click on it.
> > Eric
>

Re: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.

[Dennis Myers]

Romanator wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The rpm version does not have icons or .xpms. You will have to go back
> to www.real.com
> and download rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin.  It's a larger install and
> it provides the icons(.xpms).
>
> You must login as 'root', and download the file to your 'root'
> directory. After the download, open up xterm or console, and type in the
> following:
>
> A)
> chmod u+x rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin
>
> B) Press the 'enter' key
>
> C) It will create an installation directory in root called
> ILINXR.install or something like that. It's been some time since I've
> installed it. Type in: ./INSTALL
>
> D)
> Install it to /usr/X11R6/bin/RealPlayer7. Actually it can be installed
> to /usr/local but that's a matter of preference.
> E) Navigate to the RealPlayer 7 folder and copy rp7.xpm(this is the
> large icon) to /usr/share/icons
> F) Copy the rp7mini.xpm icon file to /usr/share/icons/mini
>
> Remember, Linux does not use the .ico file extension but .xpm file
> extensions for the icon files. Windows uses .ico file extensions.
>
> In addition, check out the emails from the last 1 - 2 months. All of the
> instructions that you need are already there. This topic has been
> covered dozens and dozens of times.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Roman
>
> Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> >
> > Dennis Myers wrote:
> > >
> > > Here I am with all indications that real player 7 down loaded and
> > > installed.  It shows up in RPM/files and is set in /usr/bin and
> > > usr/local with a whole bunch of /usr/lib files.  Ok, how do I know it is
> > > working? It also shows up in /usr/local/netscape/plugins. I don't know
> > > if or how I should put an icon on the desk top or on the tray ala MS
> > > Windows.  Any ideas on if I installed ok and how to make an icon, any
> > > icon for that matter.
> > Hi Dennis,
> > download a file to play at
> > http://frederik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html
> > after that simply click on it.
> > Eric

OOPs! Sorry, I get frustrated and want answers and forget to go search the
archive.  Thanks for the Help.

Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X

[Penhockey2]

I would like to hank everyone for their prompt replies.  You'd think it 
would be documented somewhere about their variety of boot options, such as 
with indicating a prompt on startup "Linux 3 at LILO".  I've fixed the 
problem and X is back up again.
I probably should invest in an APC in case something really screws up my 
system.  Though the surge protector sufficed for this time.

Kenny

[newbie] StarOffice5.1KpackageInstalling

[Marcia Waller]

Dear anyone, I have the Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete and I thought I
installed it from the CD#3 last night. It shows up in the Kpack window
as installed I believe, but I do not know how to open and use the
program. There is no icon on my desktop. I would like to do this the
easy way if possible such as through KPackage or RPMDrake. Thank you
very much for your help. Sincerely, Marcia Waller

[newbie] WordPerfect and Lotus WordPro to StarOffice

[Joe]

Hi Linux friends,

Does anybody how to directly convert files written in Wordperfect format
(all wordperfet suite) and Lotus WordPro (all smartsuite suite) into
StarOffice format?
I can only convert MS Word docs (Office suite) to StarOffice but not those
two formats.
Appreciate some help.

Thanks

Best Regards
Joe Linux

Re: [newbie] Free Software........

[Denis Havlik]

:~>Corel PHOTO-PAINT® for Linux®

This is definitively not "free software". Here is Licence agreement:

http://linux.corel.com/products/pp9/eula.htm
 
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[newbie] FW: MACMILLAN USA SHIPS THE LATEST FULL-SERVICE SOLUTION FOR THE LINUX USERS: LINUX-MANDRAKE 7.1 COMPLETE

[Bill . Gardner]

fyi...

-Original Message-
From: Perry, Detra 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:31 PM
Subject: MACMILLAN USA SHIPS THE LATEST FULL-SERVICE SOLUTION FOR THE
LINUX USERS: LINUX-MANDRAKE 7.1 COMPLETE


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

For more information, please contact:
Detra L. Perry
Macmillan USA/Macmillan Software
317.581.3594 voice
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MACMILLAN USA SHIPS THE LATEST FULL-SERVICE SOLUTION FOR THE LINUX USERS: 
LINUX-MANDRAKE 7.1 COMPLETE
New StarOffice_ and Updated DrakX Provide New Features for Linux Users

INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana--July 5, 2000--Releasing the next of many upcoming products from 
MandrakeSoft and Macmillan USA, Macmillan announced that they have shipped the two 
most recent Linux OS products to retail stores, Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Complete and Deluxe.

The "Complete" line of Linux software retailed by Macmillan addresses the demand for 
programs suited to new and hobbiest users.  Linux-Mandrake OS, one of the top Linux 
distributions, continues to be the solution of choice.  Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Complete is 
designed for users to simply explore this popular operating system, or to muscle up 
the performance of their computer.

Macmillan's Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Complete continues to deliver the latest updated 
technology that--along with ease of use--has become one of Mandrake's most noteworthy 
attribute.  7.1 Complete is one of the first Linux distributions to include the latest 
office suite from of Sun Microsystems, StarOffice 5.2.  Also included is DrakX, one of 
the easiest graphical installations programs available, which now fully handles 
multiple-CD installation and manages to install and use easily Linux.  

Special Linux preparation tools from PowerQuest (PartitionMagic® and BootMagic®) help 
the first-time user to get Linux up and running on their system, and the installation 
procedure now supports multiple CDs and prompts the user through extension and 
application CDs.  Free 24-hour technical support is provided via internet and fax for 
installation issues.  The Linux Library from computer-book powerhouse publishers, Que 
and Sams, is included as e-document value adds to the OS.


RETAIL PRICING, AVAILABILITY AND SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Complete is available now for  an MSRP of US $29.95.  System 
requirements include: CPU Intel Pentium and compatible processor 
(Pentium/MMX/PRO/II/Celeron/III, AMD K6/K6-2, Cyrix 6x86/M-II), 32 MB RAM required, 64 
MB recommended for X Windows system.  500 MB disk space minimum, 1 GB+ recommended.  
CD-ROM and 3.5" floppy drive required.
 
ABOUT MANDRAKESOFT
MandrakeSoft publishes the Linux-Mandrake operating system based on open-source 
development (which provides free access to source code published in accordance with a 
General Public License, or GPL).  Several hundred developers throughout the world 
contribute to the continuous improvement of the distribution product directly over the 
Internet. This international developer community has given Linux-Mandrake a product 
that is available in over 50 languages.

Linux-Mandrake is a complete system with a choice of several powerful, pre-configured 
graphic interfaces (notably the leaders KDE and GNOME), as well as more than 1,700 
applications including Netscape Communicator, StarOffice suite, and the Web Apache 
server. 

"Born on the Internet," MandrakeSoft established headquarters in Europe and the US.  
For more information, news and updates, please visit http://www.linux-mandrake.com. 


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Re: [newbie] Modem Audio

[Harry Flaxman]

Barry,

Out of curiousity, which driver did you use for your SB128?  I have a 512
and have been unable to get it to work yet.

Thanks

Harry



Barry Premeaux wrote:

> On Monday, I replaced Calderas Open Linux 2.2 with Mandrake 7.1.  Really
> love the install.  It went smoothly with Mandrake finding all my
> hardware, including my Stylus Color 850.  My SB128 sound card performs
> far better than it ever did with COL 2.2.   The only problem I have is
> the small internal speaker that plugs in the ASUS P5A motherboard does
> not seem to be operational.  The only reason I miss it is that I can no
> longer listen to the modem dial out and hear the handshake.  The modem
> is an internal 56K with the Rockwell chip set.  It came with the PC from
> QLI-Tech.  Neither the modem board or the little user manual identify
> the manufacturer.  The modem works fine and the log screen shows the
> 'ATM0L1" initialization string.  It isn't a major problem, but I'm
> clueless as to where I should go to resolve it.
>
> --
> Barry :-)

--
___

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http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman
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Re: [newbie] Windows Manager

[john lin]

I am somewhat suprised with the lack of support for WindowMaker. I have tried
both KDE/KWM and Gnome/Enlightenment combo, they both seemed too heavy duty
for my mediocre computer. As user, I am now running WindowMaker on its own, it
is stable, fast, and have a clean interface. It is also both Gnome and KDE
compatable. As root, I run KDE because it is easy to configurate system
settings. 

John Lin



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[newbie] The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!

[toyswins]

Well, sorry but having to revert to you folks for help.  Get this
message on dialing so the other end is hanging up immediately on
connect.  I've checked the various files in the HOWTO's and all seems
fine.  Used KPPP 1.6.22 as the dialer and to set up the system.  pppd is
2.3.8 so I've provided the full fault message below.

I've reloaded the entire Linux Mandrake 6.5 two times, no changes.  All
the startup files load okay.  As root, it's a pretty system, but hit
this glitch.

pppd 2.3.8 started by root, uid0
Using interface ppp0
Connect ppp0<--->/dev/ttyS1
Hangup (SIGHUP)
Modemhangup
Connection terminated.
Exit

This is what I understand so far: The modem is found, dials and gets a
machine on the other end.  The other machine then immediately initiated
a disconnect, (SIGHUP), then it disconnects at my end, gives me the
error message.

ISP is S. W. Bell.  I've got the ADSL on the Windows system going fine,
but it dies now and then, also I travel and need access from other
locations.  The dialup on LINUX would be really handy, if I could get it
to work.  I know there's either a bug or three and need to update to
something or I've got some configuration problem.  Either way, I've
looked at it so long I'm not seeing it.  Pointers

Thanks

B. B. Stanfield III
KC5PIY

[expert] Mandrake Forum News & Poll...

[Gael Duval]

Hello everybody,

several weeks ago we set up an experimental Mandrake web forum that
was intended to get as many ideas as possible about what the future
Linux-Mandrake systems should be. This forum was intended to have a
very short life (one week). As those discussions were a frank success,
this lead us to the idea that the users need to tell MandrakeSoft
their feelings about Mandrake. That's the reason why we have:

- reinstalled this system with a dedicated name
[http://forum.mandrakesoft.com]
- converted it into a general Mandrake news site where people can post
stories like in Slashdot, and post comments

I'm inviting you to take a look at it again, and especially to choose
a new name for it. Several names are already available, such as:
mandrakeforum.com or mymandrake.org. Which one do *you* prefer?

Vote now on: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com

Greets,

Gael.

PS Due to the recent new KDE2 beta packages that are available on the
same server, the forum can be slow sometimes. 
--
< Gael DUVAL http://www.mandrake.com >

Re: [newbie] 1.4 GB overkill for /boot?

[Michael Holt]

Philomena wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My question was a little off the topic - I didn't have the size question -
> my question was that I didn't realize that you could setup an install
> without a /boot partition, and was wondering how this was done.
> 
> Thx,
> philomena

If you just select the "/" partition at install time, everything else
that you need will be added where it needs to be (except the swap
space).  If you notice at install time there are also options to create
several other default mount points (example: /home), this is helpful if
you want to maintain certain config files and don't want them
overwritten, or if you want to maybe use leftover space on different
partitions.  Setting the /boot partition was simply a fix for allowing
that directory to reside below the 1024 cyl., it will still be created
at install time even if you don't manually create it.

Mike
-- 

Mike & Tracy Holt
Kirkland, WA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X

[Magnus Wirström]

You could try run the command xconfig as root in console mode  ... that will let
you set up you config again ... Hope it will work for you !!! =)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yesterday I had a power outage while inside KDE, and my X server wasn't able
> to shutdown properly.  Now whenever I startup Mandrake, and thus when it goes
> into the graphical login, I get a garbled mess on my screen indicating my X
> settings have been corrupted (if I shall use the term correctly).  What I
> wish to know is to how to abort starting X automatically on startup so I can
> reconfigure X from VC.
>
> I appreciate any response or help.
>
> Kenny

Re: [newbie] Reconfiguring X

[Mark Weaver]

at the LILO prompt type "linux 3" and hit ENTER.

When you get to the command prompt type "setuptool" and hit ENTER.

This will allow you to reconfigure your X-windows settings.

-- 
Mark

I love my Linux Box...
REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym.
Registered Linux user # 1299563

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yesterday I had a power outage while inside KDE, and my X server wasn't able 
> to shutdown properly.  Now whenever I startup Mandrake, and thus when it goes 
> into the graphical login, I get a garbled mess on my screen indicating my X 
> settings have been corrupted (if I shall use the term correctly).  What I 
> wish to know is to how to abort starting X automatically on startup so I can 
> reconfigure X from VC.
> 
> I appreciate any response or help.
> 
> Kenny
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Dennis Myers wrote:
> 
> Here I am with all indications that real player 7 down loaded and
> installed.  It shows up in RPM/files and is set in /usr/bin and
> usr/local with a whole bunch of /usr/lib files.  Ok, how do I know it is
> working? It also shows up in /usr/local/netscape/plugins. I don't know
> if or how I should put an icon on the desk top or on the tray ala MS
> Windows.  Any ideas on if I installed ok and how to make an icon, any
> icon for that matter.
Hi Dennis,
download a file to play at
http://frederik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html
after that simply click on it.
Eric

[newbie] Reconfiguring X

[Penhockey2]

Yesterday I had a power outage while inside KDE, and my X server wasn't able 
to shutdown properly.  Now whenever I startup Mandrake, and thus when it goes 
into the graphical login, I get a garbled mess on my screen indicating my X 
settings have been corrupted (if I shall use the term correctly).  What I 
wish to know is to how to abort starting X automatically on startup so I can 
reconfigure X from VC.

I appreciate any response or help.

Kenny

[newbie] X and Intel i740 chipset

[Victor Richardson]

I have finally accepted defeat(or stop wasting time) at getting my S3
Trio3D video card to work on our Netfinity 3000 server and have decided
to just add a cheap, fully-supported, video card into one of our open
PCI slots. I got the S3 to work in VESA/Frame Buffer mode at 1024x768
(as IBM suggest), but this has been deemed too hard on the eyes by my
superiors, and I have wasted far too much time trying to get it working
in SVGA mode.

I see that one of the auction pages has the "Real3D Starfighter 12MB PCI
Intel i740 Chipset 2D/3D Video Accelerator" going for $50 and
Xfree86.org shows that it is fully supported under version 3.3.6.

Has anyone had any experience with this card or the Intel i740 chipset?
Are there any difficulties that I should know about before I purchase
it?

Can anyone suggest another cheap, fully supported, video card for under
$60?

Any suggestions welcome,

Victor

Re: [newbie] 1.4 GB overkill for /boot?

[Philomena]

Hi,

My question was a little off the topic - I didn't have the size question - 
my question was that I didn't realize that you could setup an install 
without a /boot partition, and was wondering how this was done.

Thx,
philomena

At 11:28 PM 7/5/00 +, you wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>If you insist on a separate /boot then around 5 Mb should be
>quite sufficient (even that is a little bit of overkill!).
>
>  On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > Hi Denis,
> >
> > The /boot partition isn't needed at all in 7.1 ? While I didn't try
> > otherwise during the install, I thought you would be required to indicate
> > a  " /  "and  " /boot  " partition, at a minimum, just that the /boot did
> > not need to be above 1024 cylinders. What would you do during the
> > installation , to indicate where you boot from ?
> >
> > Thnx,
> > philomena
> >
> > At 08:48 PM 7/5/00 +0200, you wrote:
> > >:~>When I installed LM 7.1 I let it set the three LM partition sizes (/,
> > >/boot,
> > >:~>and swap). Of the 5 GB available, it assigned about 1.4 GB to the /boot
> > >:~>partition. Now I've heard that you only need 10 MB for /boot. Am I
> > >wasteing
> > >:~>1.4 GB? Thanks.
> > >
> > >AFAIK, there is no need for a /boot in 7.1 anymore since 1024 cyl
> > >limit does not exist anymore. So best size for it should be 0.
> > >
> > >cu
> > > Denis
> > >--
> > >-
> > >Dr. Denis Havlik
> > >Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > >---oOO--(_)--OOo-
> > >visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
>--
>Yatsen Ng
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>It said "Needs Windows 98 or better." So I installed Linux...

RE: [newbie] Failed

[Jose M. Sanchez]

This will happen until you configure Apache.

You can do this from Linuxconf.

-JMS


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|
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[newbie] KDE2 problems

[Gentile, Sam]

I finally got KDE2 installed on Mandrake 7.0 using
http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/index.html. I followed the instructions
and used the mandrake script but the only way I can get KDE2 running is
>WINDOWMANAGER=kde2 startx. Is this correct? How do I get a menu choice?
Also, all my menus are screwed up. All the menus contain GNOME things and
multiple times. How do I correct this or reset the menus?

Sam Gentile
Principal Software Engineer
Compuware NuMega
Performance & Coverage Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.numega.com
http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?SamGentile
"Love Yourself. Love Your Neighbor. Love Your COM"

Re: [newbie] 1.4 GB overkill for /boot?

[Yatsen Ng]

Hi there,

If you insist on a separate /boot then around 5 Mb should be
quite sufficient (even that is a little bit of overkill!).  

 On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Hi Denis,
> 
> The /boot partition isn't needed at all in 7.1 ? While I didn't try 
> otherwise during the install, I thought you would be required to indicate 
> a  " /  "and  " /boot  " partition, at a minimum, just that the /boot did 
> not need to be above 1024 cylinders. What would you do during the 
> installation , to indicate where you boot from ?
> 
> Thnx,
> philomena
> 
> At 08:48 PM 7/5/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >:~>When I installed LM 7.1 I let it set the three LM partition sizes (/, 
> >/boot,
> >:~>and swap). Of the 5 GB available, it assigned about 1.4 GB to the /boot
> >:~>partition. Now I've heard that you only need 10 MB for /boot. Am I 
> >wasteing
> >:~>1.4 GB? Thanks.
> >
> >AFAIK, there is no need for a /boot in 7.1 anymore since 1024 cyl
> >limit does not exist anymore. So best size for it should be 0.
> >
> >cu
> > Denis
> >--
> >-
> >Dr. Denis Havlik
> >Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >---oOO--(_)--OOo-
> >visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
-- 
Yatsen Ng
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It said "Needs Windows 98 or better." So I installed Linux... 

[newbie] Realplayer and icons etc.

[Dennis Myers]

Here I am with all indications that real player 7 down loaded and
installed.  It shows up in RPM/files and is set in /usr/bin and
usr/local with a whole bunch of /usr/lib files.  Ok, how do I know it is
working? It also shows up in /usr/local/netscape/plugins. I don't know
if or how I should put an icon on the desk top or on the tray ala MS
Windows.  Any ideas on if I installed ok and how to make an icon, any
icon for that matter.

Re: [newbie] How i mount my externall Zip Drive

[Michael M Walker]

your zip is installed as a SCI Interface drive in Linux even thoe
Windows will install it as a Parallel Interface so you will have to set
it up as a SCI.


Paul wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Roberto Drake wrote:
>
> >Hi, i hope anyone can help with this:
> >
> >I cant mount my ZIP Drive
> >
> >External
> >Parallel Interface
> >100 MB
> >
> >I'm using LM 7.0 (Air) with kernel 2.2.14-15MDK
>
> See the tips at http://mandrakeuser.org
>
> Just search for "zip". That helped me.
>
> Paul
>
> --
> A turtle can tell more about the road
> than a hare
>
> )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
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Re: [newbie] Pine !! Pls help...

[Paul]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, joakim viktorsson wrote:

>
>
>to me this seems more like something such:
>
>   alias pine='/path/to/pine;fortune'
>
>
>> :~>#!/bin/sh
>> :~># Load Pine:
>> :~>/usr/bin/pine
>> :~># Do the desired bla's:
>> :~>echo

This, of course, could be an option too...
Can;t tell, since all we have to go on is bla...bla...bla...
Is that in the fortune files?

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Why can't I mount my IDE Burner ?

[Paul]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Magnus [iso-8859-1] Wirström wrote:

I remember a discussion about that here. You have to do some IDE-SCSI
emulating somewhere. See mandrakeuser.org, i am sure the gory details are
there ;)

Paul

>Hi !
>
>Well ... I reinstalled my Mandrake 7.0 coz I crashed it (tried to
>install gnome-libs 1.2.3)... I had my cd burner worked before with
>/dev/scd0 device ... This time I did an expert install and Installed it
>with all the default packages that is selected with it ... Now when I
>try to mount /dev/scd0 I get this error:
>
>mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe
>'insmod driver'?)
>
>So ... how can I fix this ??? Is it becuse scsi is not in the kernel ???
>At the install I choosed that I didn't had any scsi card in my computer
>... could that be it ???
>
>Or am I forgetting something here ?
>
>thanks
>/Magnus
>
>BTW it is a HP CD-Writer 8100i burner
>
>
>

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[newbie] Failed

[fjhduque.teleline.es]

This is a message on the screen
<>
Well I need a help 
Regards
:-)

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Linux is a Best S.O.
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Re: [newbie] Pine !! Pls help...

[joakim viktorsson]

to me this seems more like something such:

   alias pine='/path/to/pine;fortune'


 ...joakim


On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Denis Havlik wrote:

> I think Paul is right. I did not find anything similar in pine conf. file,
> and I know it rather well .-)
> 
> :~>I doubt that he used a feature INSIDE Pine. If he did, it is something
> :~>that's beyond me. My best guess is that he has a directory in his PATH
> :~>that is read before /usr/bin is read and did this:
> :~>
> :~>#!/bin/sh
> :~># Load Pine:
> :~>/usr/bin/pine
> :~># Do the desired bla's:
> :~>echo
> :~>echo bla...bla...bla...
> :~>echo bla..bla..bla..bla
> :~>echo
> :~>echo- Linus Pauling -
> :~># End of bla's
> :~>
> :~>(Give or take a few bla's)
> :~>
> :~>That would give the desired effect. I could stick a script called pine in
> :~>my ~/bin directory (which is accessed before /usr/bin) and I am sure it
> :~>would go great.
> :~>
> :~>Paul
> :~>
> :~>
> 
> -- 
> -
> Dr. Denis Havlik
> Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 

Re: [newbie] 1.4 GB overkill for /boot?

[Philomena]

Hi Denis,

The /boot partition isn't needed at all in 7.1 ? While I didn't try 
otherwise during the install, I thought you would be required to indicate 
a  " /  "and  " /boot  " partition, at a minimum, just that the /boot did 
not need to be above 1024 cylinders. What would you do during the 
installation , to indicate where you boot from ?

Thnx,
philomena

At 08:48 PM 7/5/00 +0200, you wrote:
>:~>When I installed LM 7.1 I let it set the three LM partition sizes (/, 
>/boot,
>:~>and swap). Of the 5 GB available, it assigned about 1.4 GB to the /boot
>:~>partition. Now I've heard that you only need 10 MB for /boot. Am I 
>wasteing
>:~>1.4 GB? Thanks.
>
>AFAIK, there is no need for a /boot in 7.1 anymore since 1024 cyl
>limit does not exist anymore. So best size for it should be 0.
>
>cu
> Denis
>--
>-
>Dr. Denis Havlik
>Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>---oOO--(_)--OOo-
>visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com

Re: [newbie] 1.4 GB overkill for /boot?

[Denis Havlik]

:~>When I installed LM 7.1 I let it set the three LM partition sizes (/, /boot, 
:~>and swap). Of the 5 GB available, it assigned about 1.4 GB to the /boot 
:~>partition. Now I've heard that you only need 10 MB for /boot. Am I wasteing 
:~>1.4 GB? Thanks.

AFAIK, there is no need for a /boot in 7.1 anymore since 1024 cyl
limit does not exist anymore. So best size for it should be 0.

cu
Denis
-- 
-
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visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com 

Re: [newbie] Pine !! Pls help...

[Denis Havlik]

I think Paul is right. I did not find anything similar in pine conf. file,
and I know it rather well .-)

:~>I doubt that he used a feature INSIDE Pine. If he did, it is something
:~>that's beyond me. My best guess is that he has a directory in his PATH
:~>that is read before /usr/bin is read and did this:
:~>
:~>#!/bin/sh
:~># Load Pine:
:~>/usr/bin/pine
:~># Do the desired bla's:
:~>echo
:~>echo bla...bla...bla...
:~>echo bla..bla..bla..bla
:~>echo
:~>echo- Linus Pauling -
:~># End of bla's
:~>
:~>(Give or take a few bla's)
:~>
:~>That would give the desired effect. I could stick a script called pine in
:~>my ~/bin directory (which is accessed before /usr/bin) and I am sure it
:~>would go great.
:~>
:~>Paul
:~>
:~>

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Re: [newbie] Supermount Woes

[Larry Marshall]

At 09:52 AM 7/5/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Larrydon't forget the fact that the dos filesystem doesn't
>maintain the Linux permissions of the files stored on it.
>You'll have to re-set the permissions after retrieving the
>file from the dos formatted floppy.

Good point but it would seem an odd circumstance that I'd be transferring 
files via floppy that I'd need anything other than default persmissions on 
and/or that I wouldn't check those permissions if I were concerned.

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] Cant Mount CD-ROM Problem...

[flupke]

On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote:

> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
> Paul wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, i tried mounting /dev/cdrom2 to /mnt/cdrom and it worked.
> When I tried mounting /dev/cdrom to /mnt/cdrom2 I still got the same
> error.."mount:/dev/cdrom is not a valid block device"
> 
> wa! =(  Anymore tips? =(
> 
> John
> 

Did you try to mount the device itself rather than the link? ie : if your
cdrom is secondary master :
   mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
or if scsi emulation is enabled (which is likely, if you have a cd
burner) :
   mount /dev/scd0 (or scd1) /mnt/cdrom

If one of these works, then you just :
   rm /dev/cdrom
   ln -s /dev/ /dev/cdrom
to recreate the good link.

HTH
Flupke   

-- 
<< There's no place like ~ ! >>

Re: [newbie] Pine !! Pls help...

[Paul]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Pak Janggut wrote:

>i think you're not understand what i mean. pls read again my mail.
>
>On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, KompuKit wrote:
>
>> > (quit pine), there's always some words above the prompt, just like this:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Pine finished -- Closed folder "INBOX". Kept all 121 messages.
>> > 
>> >blabla...bla...bla...bla...
>> >bla..bla...bla..bla...bla..
>> >bla..blabla...bla
>> > 
>> >- Linus Pauling -


I doubt that he used a feature INSIDE Pine. If he did, it is something
that's beyond me. My best guess is that he has a directory in his PATH
that is read before /usr/bin is read and did this:

#!/bin/sh
# Load Pine:
/usr/bin/pine
# Do the desired bla's:
echo
echo bla...bla...bla...
echo bla..bla..bla..bla
echo
echo- Linus Pauling -
# End of bla's

(Give or take a few bla's)

That would give the desired effect. I could stick a script called pine in
my ~/bin directory (which is accessed before /usr/bin) and I am sure it
would go great.

Paul

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is a complete human being
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[newbie] Why can't I mount my IDE Burner ?

[Magnus Wirström]

Hi !

Well ... I reinstalled my Mandrake 7.0 coz I crashed it (tried to
install gnome-libs 1.2.3)... I had my cd burner worked before with
/dev/scd0 device ... This time I did an expert install and Installed it
with all the default packages that is selected with it ... Now when I
try to mount /dev/scd0 I get this error:

mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe
'insmod driver'?)

So ... how can I fix this ??? Is it becuse scsi is not in the kernel ???
At the install I choosed that I didn't had any scsi card in my computer
... could that be it ???

Or am I forgetting something here ?

thanks
/Magnus

BTW it is a HP CD-Writer 8100i burner

Re: [newbie] Supermount Woes

[Alan Shoemaker]

Larrydon't forget the fact that the dos filesystem doesn't
maintain the Linux permissions of the files stored on it. 
You'll have to re-set the permissions after retrieving the
file from the dos formatted floppy.

Alan


Larry Marshall wrote:
> 
> >  Yeah, I was implying that.  I was also implying that dos is a
> >better file system to use on floppies, it's more stable, especially
> >over 1440k, and universally more readable by most systems.
> 
> Thanks for the response Tom.  If I ever use a floppy it'll be as a DOS
> floppy :-)
> 
> Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] Supermount Woes

[Larry Marshall]

>  Yeah, I was implying that.  I was also implying that dos is a
>better file system to use on floppies, it's more stable, especially
>over 1440k, and universally more readable by most systems.

Thanks for the response Tom.  If I ever use a floppy it'll be as a DOS 
floppy :-)

Cheers --- Larry

[newbie] sound card compatibility

[Ramonito Yoro]

Hi my name is Hanz Yoro, I have been using your product Linx Mandrake 7.0 Deluxe for
few months now. I have a question regarding the sound card compatibility. I have
seen at your site's hardware support section, that the OS supports ALS-001 to ALS-120.
However there is a recent version, ALS-400, which is available in the market today.
My question is that is this new version supprted by the Os? since this  product is
not listed in the hardware supported, but its earlier versions are said to be 
supported.Help
.Thank You in Advance!!! 

Re: [newbie] Supermount Woes

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> >Not really. Any files you use with Linux and be copied to or
> >read from a DOS formatted floppy.  Where this gets flakey is tryin
> >to do it with ext2 formatted floppies.  If you use 'superformat'
> >to format floppies beyond 1440k (eg, 1992), you need to use DOS
> >format.
> 
> In the several years that I worked on a Sparcstation I think I used the 
> floppy no more than half a dozen times so only curiosity causes me to 
> pursue this, and that you understand it :-)  Are you saying that there's 
> not much reason to use floppies in ext2 format?  If so, you're right and I 
> don't see the problem then.
> 
> Cheers --- Larry

 Yeah, I was implying that.  I was also implying that dos is a
better file system to use on floppies, it's more stable, especially
over 1440k, and universally more readable by most systems.

After I posted, I realized some might not know about
'superformat'.  It's on the 7.1 CD's in the 'fdutils...rpm'.
Although I rarely feel the need to use a floppy myself (I bakup to
cd-rw, or to a windoze partition), 'fdutils' and 'mtools' (prob'ly
already installed, but also on the CD) are well worth having a
general understanding of. (man superformat, and info mtools)

-- 
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Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Larry Marshall]

>Amen to that.  The Linux way is you have control over things
>installed and uninstalled.  I do not trust anything that
>takes over my screen and tells me I have to close all other
>applications and ... gasp ... reboot the system.

Something tells me, Phil, that you're not one of the millions of people who 
use computers every day without understanding anything about them.  My 
guess is that your response to the thought of such people is "Well, they 
should."  But the world doesn't go round that way.  As long as I've been 
around UNIX the UNIX folks have argued that it is a better operating 
system.  They are right but the reason that it is not mainstream is not the 
fault of Microsoft; it is the "fault" of those consumers that want to use 
computers, not understand them.

BTW, I tend to feel the same way you do about computer users who are 
"driving without a license" but something simply "are."

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] Supermount Woes

[Larry Marshall]

>Not really. Any files you use with Linux and be copied to or
>read from a DOS formatted floppy.  Where this gets flakey is tryin
>to do it with ext2 formatted floppies.  If you use 'superformat'
>to format floppies beyond 1440k (eg, 1992), you need to use DOS
>format.

In the several years that I worked on a Sparcstation I think I used the 
floppy no more than half a dozen times so only curiosity causes me to 
pursue this, and that you understand it :-)  Are you saying that there's 
not much reason to use floppies in ext2 format?  If so, you're right and I 
don't see the problem then.

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Larry Marshall]

>
>  would use not a multitude of different ones.To a degree we aready have that
>in Linux due to the number of different distros which are available and
>their program formats.

Speaking of which, anybody know how to install Corel Word Perfect (Debian) 
on Mandrake?  Is it possible?

>I tend to be lazy. If there is an easy way to do something and it works.
>I will say "Thank You" and use it.

Charles, these are basic things that the Linux community needs to solve if 
they are to take on Microsoft Windows.  Maybe that's not the goal but it 
certainly seems to be the case.

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Larry Marshall]

>
>I don't agree Charles.  What's wrong with rpm? Easy to install
>and uninstall.  If all the various software vendors and developers

Could be it's my stupidity (quite likely) but I find rpm to be foolproof (a 
fool like me can't get them to work well).  I much prefer to get stuff as 
compressed tar files.

That said, install/uninstall issues/debates center on who is the user.  I 
agree that you don't want each vendor with a separate install function.  We 
had that back in the days of DOS and it was silly at times.  But what Linux 
needs is an OS-dependent equivalent of Setup.  I suppose rpm is supposed to 
be that way but

Here's an example, and it may not be a good one as I'm new to using 
rpms.  I bought Mandrake v7, installed it, and then wanted to install Star 
Office, which comes as an rpm on the third CD.  I shove that CD in and the 
autorun starts a description file.  That description file gives me a long 
rpm string that I'm supposed to type on the commandline to install Star 
Office.  I type that (notice that a typical Windows user is already bawking 
at this).  But it doesn't work.  It doesn't work because the path to the 
rpm is wrong in the document.

How do you get to the actual directory on the disk to understand what path 
you need?  If you simply use the file browser, the minute you click on the 
CD you get that damn description file and you still know nothing.  A simple 
"cd /mnt/cdrom" will let you see the file structure but again, we're back 
at the commandline doing an install.

When the path is identified and the rpm string is given, you end up with a 
whole pile of stuff dumped into /opt.  Then, to install it you've got to 
find out that the install function is in /opt/Office51_en.  You do all this 
as root.  Then you have to become the user who wants to use the application 
and run the install program.

By comparison, to install Microsoft Office the Windows user runs "setup" 
and drinks coffee while it happens.

I'm a BIG FAN of UNIX and Linux but all the work being exerted by people 
who are posting here to get the OS operational and to install apps 
shouldn't be ignored.  Someone asked how anyone could like Windows.   Good 
question as it leaves much to be desired.  But what it brings to the party 
is virtually every driver necessary to run virtually ever piece of hardware 
on the market functional and with a standard installation that is a 
no-brainer.  People trying to work on computers rather than having a desire 
to become a computer expert value these things well above whether they have 
"cool sounds" (grin).

Cheers --- Larry "donning flame-proof suit with full understanding that the 
Linux zealots will be all over this" Marshall

Re: [newbie] TCP wrapper and MSEC

[Bill Fisher]

MSEC is 
thanks
bill


On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Has anyone tried to set there host deny files to read
> ALL:ALL Except localhost Deny?
> I get open ports almost everytime I add the to Host deny
> Anyone have any ideas why? Used to work well before MSEC
> 
> Hugh

Re: [newbie] Word wrap in your mail

[Bill Fisher]

I've just read in two messages which need to be shifted t o the side to be read.
Just wondering what email program you are using and what the word-wrap (if any)
is set at. Mine is 80
Bill

Re: [newbie] TCP wrapper and MSEC

[Mark Weaver]

Hugh wrote:
> 
> Has anyone tried to set there host deny files to read
> ALL:ALL Except localhost Deny?
> I get open ports almost everytime I add the to Host deny
> Anyone have any ideas why? Used to work well before MSEC
> 
> Hugh

What exactly is MSCE if I might ask?
-- 
Mark

I love my Linux box... Current up time 10 days, 10 hours, 30
minuteswithoug so much as a hicup!
  REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows!
Registered Linux user #1299563

Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Federico Silva wrote:
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: miércoles 5 de julio de 2000 12:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2
> 
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > The one thing about Windows that I liked more than in Linux was
> > installing programs. If you are honest most will admit that installing
> > programs in Linux can be both fustrating and exasperating.
> >   Well someone has at last shown a light at the end of the tunnel.
> >Sun has released Star Office 5.2. I download it for both Windows and
> for
> > Linux. Yesterday I installed in Win2000 and today I decided to try the
> > install in Linux, hoping that it would not require to much hair pulling.
> >Do you know what I had to do to get Star Office to install in Linux? I
> > had to click on the file. It actually had it's own installation program
> and
> > installed itself. The GUI was even the same as that used in the Win
> > installation. I was shocked. Happy but shocked. I had never before seen a
> > Linux program do this.
> >My one hope now is that more companies and developers will follow Sun's
> > example and treat Linux users with the same degree of concern and support
> as
> > they show Window users.
> > If you want to try it the URL is www.sun.com/staroffice
> > The Linux download is 93MB and you need to run the installation program as
> > user not as root.
> >
> >Charles   :-)
> 
> >   I don't agree Charles.  What's wrong with rpm? Easy to install
> >and uninstall.  If all the various software vendors and developers
> >began devising their own 'automatic' installs, I suspect utter
> >chaos, and a lot of broken distros would shortly be the result.>
> >
> >--
> >~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I totally agree with Tom.
> Even Microsoft agrees, as the new Windows installer features .msi files that
> 
> behaves in a *simpler* way as rpm does. Of course it opens it dialogs and
> all
> but I think that should be left to the first time you run the program.
> 
> Unified installation keeps track of system wide program dependency.
> 
> My .002 cents.
> 
> -f.
I totally agree with Tom too !
Eric

[newbie] TCP wrapper and MSEC

[Hugh]

Has anyone tried to set there host deny files to read
ALL:ALL Except localhost Deny?
I get open ports almost everytime I add the to Host deny
Anyone have any ideas why? Used to work well before MSEC

Hugh

Re: [newbie] 7.1 & resolution (as in screen)

[Adrian Smith]

ah, so it's not just me.  i thought maybe i was going nuts
i spent a few hours yesterday playing with linux again to see what i could do (i got 
disgusted after windoze took a dive on me).  at the moment i am using Enlightenment as 
it's work spaces allow a window to overlap, so if it's off the current work space, i 
can just bounce over to another one by moving the mouse.  this is a really great 
feature which doesn't seem to exist with the other window managers -- or if it does, i 
simply don't know how to configure them to make this happen.  now if i could just get 
the pop up menus to sit still, i'd be pretty happy with this window manager.  the pop 
ups are tiny & jump all over the darn place.  there was another window manager (i done 
forgot which one) that had wonderful pop ups that stay open and right where you leave 
'em

this is good stuff, but it's making me use my brain  i hate that

Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> Digital Wokan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3:01:41 PM 7/3/00 >>>
I noticed that, too.  I think it has to do with the Sawmill/Sawfish WM. 
If there's a way of disabling/removing it to restore the alt-drag way of
moving windows, that would probably solve your problem.

Adrian Smith wrote:
> 
> okie dokie, now that i know the correct way to post to the list...  thanks David for 
>pointing out that it's Newbie... and not newbie  by the way, am i the only 
>one alive who thinks that computers, files, URLs etc should not be case sensitive?  
>do things really have to be made as difficult as possible?
> 
> just so ya know where i'm at in the linux world - i've used apples (still have my 
>apple IIc) macs, PCs under dos & windoze.  mastered all of them.  done some very 
>basic programing (BASIC and assembly).  installed & configured many dos/windoze 
>systems - so i know my way 'round computers more or less.  never used unix or linux 
>before however - so i'm having to learn this new language from the bottom up.
> 
> ok, but now my first real question
> 
> background - my box is one of the cheaper (read junk) compaq models - it's at home, 
>i'm at work, don't have the specs with me.  anyhow, i installed mandrake 7.0 and 
>played with it a bit.  since my video card adhears to the lowest standards i can only 
>get 640 X 480, or so it seems - i tried out some attempts at 800 X 600 in linux, none 
>of them worked (nor can i get 8x6 in windoze) so it looks like i'm stuck.  some of 
>the linux programs open up in screens larger than my screen resolution.  it seems 
>that a linux window can only be resized with the lower right corner??  well in 7.0 
>there was some key/mouse combo that would let you grab a window at any place and move 
>it around.  so at least i could work around it.
> 
> got my 7.1 disk and installed the new flavor.  same problem - only now the key/mouse 
>combo doesn't work. or else i can't remember it - tho i tried every possible 
>combination that seemed obvious.  since the bottom of the window is often off the 
>screen, i can't resize it.
> 
> so question must be this  if i want to use linux am i going to have to get a 
>video card that does 800x600, and will linux be able to find & use that one instead 
>of the one on the motherboard without causing problems?
> 
> thanks much...
> expect to see a whole lot more of me
> 
> Adrian Smith
> 'de telepone dude
> Telecom Dept.
> x 7042
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: [newbie] StarOffice and rpmDrake

[Harry Flaxman]

Nevermind this question.  Found the sucker...right in front of me!

Harry




> I used the program rpmDrake to install StarOffice from the first apps
> disc of the 7.0 distribution.  Now I can't find where any of the
> binaries are.  The program says it's installed.
>
> This is a pretty lame question.  I am used to installing rpm's by hand,
> so this is the first time I've used the graphical program.  Where in the
> heck did the binaries and installer files go to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Harry

[newbie] StarOffice and rpmDrake

[Harry Flaxman]

I used the program rpmDrake to install StarOffice from the first apps
disc of the 7.0 distribution.  Now I can't find where any of the
binaries are.  The program says it's installed.

This is a pretty lame question.  I am used to installing rpm's by hand,
so this is the first time I've used the graphical program.  Where in the
heck did the binaries and installer files go to?

Thanks.

Harry

[newbie] unpredictable behaviour of webmail (fwd)

[jpgois]

Hi folk!
We are trying to have Jwebmail up and running at my work. We have sent the
following mail to the webmail mailing list, but no answer came back from
them. Can any of you help us solving this problem, or propose another
solution to be able to consult our mail via a web browser?

TIA
Flupke

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2000 12:15:51 +0200 (CEST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unpredictable behaviour of webmail

We tried using webmail-0.7.0-1.noarch.rpm, running with XML + apache
+ApacheJServ+qmail, with the following problem : when a user logged in and
tried to see his mail, the browser sometimes (randomly??) reported a
servlet error.
So, we decided to install webmail-0.7.0-pre3 binary.tar.gz instead,
running with its own webserver. We now encounter this error :
we first had two inboxes containing none of the mails that should be
there. We solved this problem by erasing /home/*/Mailbox, and deleting all
the localnet's users in the "user configuration" section of the admin.
We now have a new problem : for some users, everything is ok, but when
some other users try to read their mail by clicking on the "inbox" link,
the server leads to anything (sometimes, an image, sometimes, the admin
loggon screen, sometimes the regular loggon screen, ...).

So, we are stuck and don't know what to do anymore.
We would appreciate any comment that could help us.

Thanx in advance


Flupke
www.e-systems.be

Re: [newbie] Supermount Woes

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> >Second that.  I guess "supermount" is another of those
> >bright ideas not yet ready for prime time.  I have used
> >Linux (SuSE and Debian) before and have several ext2
> 
> Most versions of UNIX have an automounter.  It sounds like they've put this 
> one together to read DOS disks, not native disks which doesn't make a lot 
> of sense.   Is it safe to assume that you're supermounting the disk as an 
> ext2 system, not a DOS system?   As you say, this seems a bit flakey. 

   Not really. Any files you use with Linux and be copied to or
read from a DOS formatted floppy.  Where this gets flakey is tryin
to do it with ext2 formatted floppies.  If you use 'superformat'
to format floppies beyond 1440k (eg, 1992), you need to use DOS
format.

 The 
> flipside is that Linux needs good automounter facility if it expects to 
> convince MacOS and Windows users to become involved in a major way.
> 
> Cheers --- Larry
-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Phil Burton]

Amen to that.  The Linux way is you have control over things
installed and uninstalled.  I do not trust anything that
takes over my screen and tells me I have to close all other
applications and ... gasp ... reboot the system.

Phil


On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Tom Brinkman wrote:

» >Charles   :-)
» 
»I don't agree Charles.  What's wrong with rpm? Easy to install
» and uninstall.  If all the various software vendors and developers
» began devising their own 'automatic' installs, I suspect utter
» chaos, and a lot of broken distros would shortly be the result.

RE: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Federico Silva]

-Original Message-
From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: miércoles 5 de julio de 2000 12:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2


On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> The one thing about Windows that I liked more than in Linux was
> installing programs. If you are honest most will admit that installing
> programs in Linux can be both fustrating and exasperating.
>   Well someone has at last shown a light at the end of the tunnel.
>Sun has released Star Office 5.2. I download it for both Windows and
for
> Linux. Yesterday I installed in Win2000 and today I decided to try the
> install in Linux, hoping that it would not require to much hair pulling.
>Do you know what I had to do to get Star Office to install in Linux? I
> had to click on the file. It actually had it's own installation program
and
> installed itself. The GUI was even the same as that used in the Win
> installation. I was shocked. Happy but shocked. I had never before seen a
> Linux program do this.
>My one hope now is that more companies and developers will follow Sun's
> example and treat Linux users with the same degree of concern and support
as
> they show Window users.
> If you want to try it the URL is www.sun.com/staroffice
> The Linux download is 93MB and you need to run the installation program as
> user not as root.
> 
>Charles   :-)

>   I don't agree Charles.  What's wrong with rpm? Easy to install
>and uninstall.  If all the various software vendors and developers
>began devising their own 'automatic' installs, I suspect utter
>chaos, and a lot of broken distros would shortly be the result.>
>
>-- 
>~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I totally agree with Tom.
Even Microsoft agrees, as the new Windows installer features .msi files that

behaves in a *simpler* way as rpm does. Of course it opens it dialogs and
all
but I think that should be left to the first time you run the program.

Unified installation keeps track of system wide program dependency.


My .002 cents.

-f.

Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Charles A Edwards]

Tom
   There is nothing wrong with RPMs. Unfortunatly all programs for Linux are
not avaiable as RPMs and are not as simple to install.
   When I appllauded the automatic install I was envisioning a standardised
installation program that all programers and developers
 would use not a multitude of different ones.To a degree we aready have that
in Linux due to the number of different distros which are available and
their program formats.
   I tend to be lazy. If there is an easy way to do something and it works.
I will say "Thank You" and use it.

   Charles   :-)

- Original Message -
From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2


> On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > The one thing about Windows that I liked more than in Linux was
> > installing programs. If you are honest most will admit that installing
> > programs in Linux can be both fustrating and exasperating.
> >   Well someone has at last shown a light at the end of the tunnel.
> >Sun has released Star Office 5.2. I download it for both Windows and
for
> > Linux. Yesterday I installed in Win2000 and today I decided to try the
> > install in Linux, hoping that it would not require to much hair pulling.
> >Do you know what I had to do to get Star Office to install in Linux?
I
> > had to click on the file. It actually had it's own installation program
and
> > installed itself. The GUI was even the same as that used in the Win
> > installation. I was shocked. Happy but shocked. I had never before seen
a
> > Linux program do this.
> >My one hope now is that more companies and developers will follow
Sun's
> > example and treat Linux users with the same degree of concern and
support as
> > they show Window users.
> > If you want to try it the URL is www.sun.com/staroffice
> > The Linux download is 93MB and you need to run the installation program
as
> > user not as root.
> >
> >Charles   :-)
>
>I don't agree Charles.  What's wrong with rpm? Easy to install
> and uninstall.  If all the various software vendors and developers
> began devising their own 'automatic' installs, I suspect utter
> chaos, and a lot of broken distros would shortly be the result.
>
> --
> ~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

RE: [newbie] problem installing Mandrake 7.1

[Paul Sims]

I'd make sure you format the partitions before advancing. I had so many 
problems installing 7.1 I resorted to Expert mode, at which point the 
problems vanished & all worked as required.

On Wednesday, July 05, 2000 3:04 PM, Nikola Pizurica 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I have Mandrake 7 and it was very easy to install. I've downloaded ISO
> image of LM 7.1 and right now I'm trying to install it.
> Everything is OK till it comes to screen for choosing Linux partition.
> Since I've already have one, I choose it, select mount point, then
> click "Done" and then I get screen where it asks me if I got other
> CD's. I say no. Then, when t is about to offer packages to install, I
> get this error:
> depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files
>
> Then it returns me to screen with partitioning. Then after clicking
> "Done" again, I get some kind of "division with zero" error.
> So, what's going on?
>
> Nikola
>
> BeOS User Group of Yugoslavia

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Re: [newbie] append="mem=192m" For your memory problems.

[Tom Brinkman]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> 
> Everyone keeps asking this question over and over and I began to ask myself
> why?  Well, everyone says add the line : append="mem=192M"
> to your lilo.conf.  Here is the problem.  The last "M" as in megabytes needs
> to be "m".  Everyone steers wrong on this and even the documentation is
> wrong.  I banged my head on the wall for two weeks struggling with this
> issue.  I have 512M RAM and Linux only sees 64 if I don't have that line in.
> As we all know Linux is case sensitive in that:
> nn isn't Nn isn't NN isn't nN 
> 

   'm' worked for you, but 'M' is still correct.  You'll soon find
that there's often dozens of ways to do the same thing in Linux, and
what works on your hardware, might not on somebody else's.

   Keep in mind that the only reason you needed to append a mem
statement in the first place is because of a hardware deficiency.

-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[newbie] problem installing Mandrake 7.1

[Nikola Pizurica]

I have Mandrake 7 and it was very easy to install. I've downloaded ISO 
image of LM 7.1 and right now I'm trying to install it.
Everything is OK till it comes to screen for choosing Linux partition. 
Since I've already have one, I choose it, select mount point, then 
click "Done" and then I get screen where it asks me if I got other 
CD's. I say no. Then, when t is about to offer packages to install, I 
get this error:
depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files

Then it returns me to screen with partitioning. Then after clicking 
"Done" again, I get some kind of "division with zero" error.
So, what's going on?

Nikola

BeOS User Group of Yugoslavia

Re: [newbie] Star Office 5.2

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> The one thing about Windows that I liked more than in Linux was
> installing programs. If you are honest most will admit that installing
> programs in Linux can be both fustrating and exasperating.
>   Well someone has at last shown a light at the end of the tunnel.
>Sun has released Star Office 5.2. I download it for both Windows and for
> Linux. Yesterday I installed in Win2000 and today I decided to try the
> install in Linux, hoping that it would not require to much hair pulling.
>Do you know what I had to do to get Star Office to install in Linux? I
> had to click on the file. It actually had it's own installation program and
> installed itself. The GUI was even the same as that used in the Win
> installation. I was shocked. Happy but shocked. I had never before seen a
> Linux program do this.
>My one hope now is that more companies and developers will follow Sun's
> example and treat Linux users with the same degree of concern and support as
> they show Window users.
> If you want to try it the URL is www.sun.com/staroffice
> The Linux download is 93MB and you need to run the installation program as
> user not as root.
> 
>Charles   :-)

   I don't agree Charles.  What's wrong with rpm? Easy to install
and uninstall.  If all the various software vendors and developers
began devising their own 'automatic' installs, I suspect utter
chaos, and a lot of broken distros would shortly be the result.

-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] KPPP - a sad relapse

[Phil Burton]

Have you set up your domain name servers in
/etc/resolv.conf?  You know, those xxx.xxx.xxx.x numbers
that your ISP gives you?  When I can dial in and nothing
else, that would be the first thing I would check.

Phil


On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Glyn Millington wrote:

» 
» 
» 
» Now here's a thing!
» 
» I installed 7.1 on my machine last week and it went beautifully,
» everything worked. The best install EVER!  In particular KPPP worked!
» 
» Following a brief flirtation with XFree86 4, I re-installed -
» yes, weep over my folly, but I did it partly because I wanted to
» re-jig my partitions (and it was so much fun last time)
» 
» Now here I am on my dial-up connection and I can connect up nicely
» with a little shell script and send and download mail (postfix and
» fetchmail) and lynx will take me wherever I want to go.
» 
» BUT  kppp dials up, logs in and then nothing - fetchmail will not
» fetch, postfix will not post and lynx just sits on the rug and
» purrs.  
» 
» I did something right last time that I've failed to do this time,
» but can anyone tell me what it might be?
» 
» TIA
» 
» Glyn M

[newbie] Printer Epson

[Gustavo Halperin]

  I have the printer Epson  Stylus Color 670
  The Linux Mandrake was know this in the configuration hardware, but
when
 I send any think is not print,  What I can to do 

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[newbie] KPPP - a sad relapse

[Glyn Millington]

Now here's a thing!

I installed 7.1 on my machine last week and it went beautifully,
everything worked. The best install EVER!  In particular KPPP worked!

Following a brief flirtation with XFree86 4, I re-installed -
yes, weep over my folly, but I did it partly because I wanted to
re-jig my partitions (and it was so much fun last time)

Now here I am on my dial-up connection and I can connect up nicely
with a little shell script and send and download mail (postfix and
fetchmail) and lynx will take me wherever I want to go.

BUT  kppp dials up, logs in and then nothing - fetchmail will not
fetch, postfix will not post and lynx just sits on the rug and
purrs.  

I did something right last time that I've failed to do this time,
but can anyone tell me what it might be?

TIA

Glyn M






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[newbie] Installing Primax Scanner 1200p

[iagoba]

Hello to all

I got a Primax Scanner 1200P connected to my lp0 how can I config & use
it in Linux Mandrake 7.0-2??? I don't got printer if is important.

Thanks to all,

Iagoba.