Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
Paul/Johnno, it's in Macmillan's Complete not Macmillan's Deluxe. The publisher is PowerQuest. http://www.powerquest.com/ Alan Paul wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote: > > > > >Partition Magic has a Linux version?? > > > >> Partition Magic is what I like best. I am not sure if DiskDrake wil retain > >> the info on the disks.. > >> Paul > > No. Partition magic is distributed on the Deluxe (I think) package you can > buy. Or get it direct from the distributor. Name slipped my mind... > > Paul > > -- > Television is democracy at its ugliest. > - Paddy Chayevsky > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] To Buy or not to buy
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: [snip] > I made the leap to 7.1 last week and > have been plagued by problems ever since. [snip} Daciajust a guess, but it sounds like you installed the 4.0 version of XF86 (all of the problems you list sound Xserver related), if so I suggest you try switching to the 3.6 version first, before wiping ths disc and reinstalling 7.0. Alan
Re: [newbie] VI - colors - help!
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Victor Richardson wrote: >This page has na list of multiple VI doc pages; > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vi/#docs > >I'm not sure if this is an answer but, the VIM homepage ( >http://www.vim.org ) states: ..snip.. >At least give it a try, Will do so. Thanks for the assistance, everyone. This is going to work! Paul -- Nobody ever forgets where he buried the hatchet. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] how to unsubscribe or temporarily drop (fwd)
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: >On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 09:41:12PM +0100, Paul wrote: >> >> For all the unsubscribees. >> I may turn this into a weekly lecture, plenty of students, as obvious... > >What about putting that into the signature of each and every outgoing >message? That way nobdoy can say that he didn't know how to >unsubscribe. > >Alexander Skwar And then start a new e-mail war on the length of signature files? I don't remember how many mails I dumped about replies on top or bottom or such. *grin* I did consider it though! Paul -- Nobody ever forgets where he buried the hatchet. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
Hello In my experience diskdrake cannot do non-destructive partitioning. Somebody at Mandrake and/or Macmillan obviously agrees because PM and BM are included in one of the Macmillan 7.1 offerings. Ron John Catral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > So Diskdrake can do a non destructive partitioning? > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > >An added note on PM. If you let the Mandrake installation create your > > Linux partitions then PM will see them all as 1 Type 85 partition and you > > will not be make any changes to the partitions using PM. You will instead > > need to use DiskDrake > > > >Charles > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Alan Shoemaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 12:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size.. > > > > > > > JohnThe Partition Magic CD (or the included CD that comes > > > with some Linux distros that have PM included with their boxed > > > set distro) comes with the ability to transfer the PM programs > > > to a pair of floppies that boot and run the PM programs with > > > an included version of DR DOS. You can then use PM on a Linux > > > system by booting the system with these DR DOS/PM floppies. > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > John Catral wrote: > > > > > > > > Partition Magic has a Linux version?? > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi! Can I safely resize a partition in Linux? What software should I > > use > > > > > >then? I need to resize my partition (/home) so that I can use a > > virtual > > > > > >disk with VMWare. Thanks in advance =) > > > > > > > > > > Partition Magic is what I like best. I am not sure if DiskDrake wil > > retain > > > > > the info on the disks.. > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > John M Catral > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ICQ# 7113128 > > > > http://i.am/JohnCatral > > > > Registered Linux User #183190 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > John M Catral > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ# 7113128 > http://i.am/JohnCatral > Registered Linux User #183190 > > > --
Re: [newbie] TEST
Yes, they do! ;) > Are these messages getting there? -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
Re: [newbie] Multiple Idenities Email
Looks like Pronto can handle multiple accounts/POP servers. Don J. On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:23:01 -0500 (CDT), Phil Burton said: > > With a combination of fetchmail and pine you can have as > many identities as your shrink will allow. > > Phil > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Anthony Huereca wrote: > > >Is there an email client and/or work around to kmail's lack of multiple > >idenities? The client would have to be GUI based. Right now the only workaround > >I see is to create some more users and have their only purpose being to collect > >mail for me. That or change my idenity in the settings whenever I send out an > >email. So is there an email client (other than Netscape) that'll let me do > >this? Or am I going to have to wait till the next major release of Kmail comes > >out (which will support multiple idenities)? > > > > > > -- > Evil is that which one believes of others. It is a sin to > believe evil of others, but it is seldom a mistake. > -- H.L. Mencken > > > -- Don W. Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.crosswinds.net/~maxfarce www.crosswinds.net/~jinxinker
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
I just used Partition Magic and it worked with no problems with the PM disk. What a great tool to have! =) Thanks for everyones help! =) -- John M Catral [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7113128 http://i.am/JohnCatral Registered Linux User #183190
Re: [newbie] port sentry
Hugh wrote: > Has anyone had luck setting up port sentry. I set it up But it doesnt seem > to do muck at all. Before when running version 6.0 it would add remarks to my > Hosts deny file. Now version 7.1, Nothing! Anyone have any ideas > > Thank you Working fine for me...did you uncomment the various choices in the portsentry.conf file? I'm using Mandrake 7.1 and it works fine...I added the command lines ( portsentry -atcpand portsentry -audp? I think) in my rc.local script so it executes when I start Linux.
[newbie] TEST
Are these messages getting there?
Re: [newbie] Ethernet problems.
sounds like a tech who needs a bit more training or experience...i'll try to point you to the where and how of it: 1. be in root to accomplish the following: 2. open drakconf 3. click on network setup 4. click on networking 5. click on basic host information 6. click on adapter 1 7. select the enabled button 8. select the Dhcp button 9. type in the Primary name + domain (this is something like cm55631.cox-internet.com the cable company has given you this name) 10. make up a name for your computer and fill in alias (if you want to) 11. leave IP address blank 12. Netmask is optional - likely is 255.255.255.0 13. Net device ought likely be eth0 14. Kernal module ought to have been filled by mandrake during install 15. click accept to close the host basic configuration window 16. click on Name server specs (DNS) in the prior window 17. fill in the IP numbers for server 1 and 2 if cox has given you these...if they've not, then you likely do not need them...IP numbers are quadsets of the form: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 18. click accept to close that window 19. click routing and gateways on the prior window 20. click on "set defaults" 21. fill in the Default gateway quadset number...cox has given you this... 22. select "enable routing" 23. click on accept 24. click quit on immediately prior window 25. click quit on next prior window 26. click quit on the last window left open...another small window will open... 27. click on "activate the changes" in this small window... you ought now be online...kppp is not necessary for a cable modem; its used for dial-ups...hope this gets you moving in the right direction... frank On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Marcia Waller wrote: > Dear All, Hello again. Can anyone help me find the easiest way to get on > the internet with my newly installed FriendlyNet Asante 10/100 Fast PCI > 100 Mbps Fast Ethernet Adapter? The Cox cable technician came yesterday, > installed it for my Windows 95 but could not get it to work in my > Windows 95. He says the driver would not install because I had some > corrupt files in Windows 95. He blamed Linux for it. Personally, I do > not think he really knew why it was not working. I asked him to help me > with the Linux installation but he knew nothing about Linux. He got > started with it and he did something with Kudzu then gave up. I do not > know where he left off. I have gone through all of the archives and info > on the net that I could find about using a cable modem with Linux. I am > a true newbie and I just do not know the first thing about doing this. > All I know is that my the domain name is cox-internet.com. The IP > Address is automatically assigned by the server each time you log on. > The Outgoing Mail Server is smtp.cox-internet.com. The Incoming Mail > Server is pop.cox-internet.com. The FTP Server is ftp.tcainternet.com. I > have Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete with the DrakX graphical installer. Do > you use Kppp for this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > Marcia
Re: [newbie] compiled kernel
You might need to install the kernel sources. You can find them on the installation CD in .rpm format. You do have the right directory however. > In which directory is the Linux kernel compiled? I am tryin to give the > command 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig' in the directory /usr/src/linux > but it gave me an error: > > no target to make menuconfig. > > I assume that I'm in the wrong directory. Would appreciate your help. > > Thanks, > edison -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Linksys LNE100TX Nic under Mandrake 7.1
All I can say is that I have that card and it works just fine for me. No configuration needed or anything. > I have a dual boot system running Win98 and Linux. Recently, I > upgraded my network card to a Linksys LNE100TX(ver. 4) and then upgraded > from SuSE Linux 6.4 to Mandrake 7.1. > > Neither version of Linux will install my network card. Checking PCI > devices shows an Ethernet card present but the vendor is unknown. I've > tried all the tricks: compiling the latest tulip driver (I get a ton of > errors), changing network settings, changing BIOS settings, etc. No luck. > > Has anyone had any luck with this card? I have scanned all the support > pages and news groups I can find, but to no avail. They all mention > compiling the driver, but I can't seem to make that work. Any help I can > get would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Mike Valley -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] ftp woes
I need a bit of help. I am trying to write a shell script for ftp. I want it to log into a remote ftp. When i open a terminal windo and type # ftp ftp.theservername.com All that i get is "ftp: connect: no route to host" But if I use gftp and try the sme server it logs right in. What am I doing wrong. Does anyone know??? Maxtor
Re: [newbie] X window
On 16 Jul 2000, at 20:55, Dennis Myers wrote: > Ok, I tried rpm rebuild just for the fun of it and got an error message > that said no space left on device. This could relate to the same message > I get when trying XFSetup. Anyone know which device and how do I give it > more space. I have a 13GB hard drive with 2GB used. There otta be room > somewhere. Is the /boot to small maybe? Help!!! Hi, You can use /bin/df to see how much space you free. -Harold -- "Life sucks, deal with it!"
Re: [newbie] Linksys LNE100TX Nic under Mandrake 7.1
i used one in a mdk 7.0 box i had...as memory has it, i had to first set it up on a dos machine and run the linux setup on the install disk that came with the card...did you get a disk with the card??...if so check for a linux/unix section on it...mine ran fine on the tulip driver after that...i think that the tulip driver i used is now called the old tulip driver...hope this pointsw you in the right direction... frank On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Michael Valley wrote: > I have a dual boot system running Win98 and Linux. Recently, I > upgraded my network card to a Linksys LNE100TX(ver. 4) and then upgraded > from SuSE Linux 6.4 to Mandrake 7.1. > > Neither version of Linux will install my network card. Checking PCI > devices shows an Ethernet card present but the vendor is unknown. I've > tried all the tricks: compiling the latest tulip driver (I get a ton of > errors), changing network settings, changing BIOS settings, etc. No luck. > > Has anyone had any luck with this card? I have scanned all the > support pages and news groups I can find, but to no avail. They all > mention compiling the driver, but I can't seem to make that work. Any help > I can get would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Mike Valley
[newbie] port sentry
Has anyone had luck setting up port sentry. I set it up But it doesnt seem to do muck at all. Before when running version 6.0 it would add remarks to my Hosts deny file. Now version 7.1, Nothing! Anyone have any ideas Thank you
Re: [newbie] X window
Ok, I tried rpm rebuild just for the fun of it and got an error message that said no space left on device. This could relate to the same message I get when trying XFSetup. Anyone know which device and how do I give it more space. I have a 13GB hard drive with 2GB used. There otta be room somewhere. Is the /boot to small maybe? Help!!! Gil Baron W0MN wrote: > I have much the same problem. See my post on Expert. It stands to reason > they should test this better. The WORST thing that an happen in my opinion > is REGRESSION and that is what has happened. > I realize the y can't test all possibilities and maybe my video is unusual > but S3, gimme a break! > > I NEED the upgrade for wheel mouse and my video but I guess I will have to > wait and hope they fix it in 7.2. > > You may not like windows but this does no happen there! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:28 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] X window > > > > > > I tried Xconfigurator and was unable to bring up the Xserver. I have a S3 > > Trio 3D/2X video card and Linux seems to have a problem with it. > > I guess this > > answers the question of should I upgrade. Hopefully 7.1 will support S3 > > better. Or maybe I should get a new card. The AGP slot is easy to > > swap out. > > Anybody know of a totally compatible video card that linux has > > no problems > > with? Or any other suggestions would be helpful. I sending this out of a > > 'windows' box and it is just killing me. Dennis > > > > Eunice Thompson wrote: > > > > > Dennis Myers wrote: > > > > > > > > I lost my Xwindow again. The common thread seems to be Star Office. > > > > Whenever I mess with SO my xserver crashes. Any way I have tried going > > > > to XF86Setup and XFconfig and every other xf or XF I could > > think of and > > > > I either get not a command or can't communicate with the x server. Any > > > > one no of some command line input to get me to the configuration. Oh, > > > > one of the messages I saw flash up briefly said something about not > > > > enough memory. Any help would be appreciated. I'm about ready to do a > > > > clean install again and throw out Star Office altogether. > > > > > > Try Xconfigurator. > > > I don't thnk you need to do a clean install. > > > you might be able to use Kpackage to uninstall Star Office. > > > There is a remove command 'rm'.for more info on how to use it > > > type 'man rm' or 'info rm' > > > Or you can always add more memory to you box or ( here I'm just > > > guessing) increase the swap partition > > > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > Eunice Thompson > > > >
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
on, 17 Jul 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: > On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 04:45:35PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > > Aah YEAH!!! it just keeps getting better and better! > > Well, but he's actually right. If that "walt" person really thinks > that w2k is better, why shouldn't he encourage him to go back to this > "os"? > > PS: Please only quote the relevant text. Thanks. .^ huh? <-- OoopsI replied on the bottom :)
Re: [newbie] Multiple Idenities Email
With a combination of fetchmail and pine you can have as many identities as your shrink will allow. Phil On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Anthony Huereca wrote: >Is there an email client and/or work around to kmail's lack of multiple >idenities? The client would have to be GUI based. Right now the only workaround >I see is to create some more users and have their only purpose being to collect >mail for me. That or change my idenity in the settings whenever I send out an >email. So is there an email client (other than Netscape) that'll let me do >this? Or am I going to have to wait till the next major release of Kmail comes >out (which will support multiple idenities)? > > -- Evil is that which one believes of others. It is a sin to believe evil of others, but it is seldom a mistake. -- H.L. Mencken
Re: [newbie] MDK7.1 IDE Configuration Freezes During InstallationonDell Dimen...
Works well with a VooDoo 3 3000 video card. Eugene
Re: [newbie] compiled kernel
HI all: In which directory is the Linux kernel compiled? I am tryin to give the command 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig' in the directory /usr/src/linux but it gave me an error: no target to make menuconfig. I assume that I'm in the wrong directory. Would appreciate your help. Thanks, edison Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Linksys Network card help needed...
Thanks everyone who helped with my pcmcia card, but now i'm onto an even more difficult one for my desktop. I have a Linksys LNE100tx card, and am unable to get it to work no matter what i do. I tried to downnload the latest driver and get that compiled,but it wil not compile... I tried the tulip driver the comes with mandrake 7.0 and that gave me an error saying delaying eth0 initialization, followed by 'FAILED'. I also tried manually setting the IO and irq for it taken from my winbloz portion of my computer, but that didn't work either, just gives the same message as above. I even went as far as to add a line to my lilo.conf file to see if I could assign it an irq and IO that would work on boot, but nothing works... I am really lost and would appreciate any help that anyone can give. Thanks in advance! - Joe :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
After my troubles with 7.1 I have about the same feeling. I am doing this as a learning experience and something to play with. It is obvious that for serious work for the home user, LINUX is NOT there yet. Maybe some day. Install trouble and lack of applications are the villains. Even if install trouble vanished the lack of applications that interface with the rest of the world would do it. The lack of applications PERIOD for my ham radio uses alone mandates windows remains. > -Original Message- > From: Kathleen Dickason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 4:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt > > > Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:18 PM > > Subject: RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > > So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be > > > unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to > > > win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it > really sucks as > > > far as I can see... > > > > > > >It is always hard for those who can not grasp something unless it is > > carried between their legs that there is life and wonder beyond > their narrow > > minded vision. > >Good luck with "unsubdcribing". > > > >Charles > > > > P.S. don't forget to use fdisk/MBR to restore your boot record :-} > > *grin* > > is that like "don't let the door hit you on the way out"? > > Kathleen, being evil and replying on the bottom >
[newbie] Ethernet problems.
Dear All, Hello again. Can anyone help me find the easiest way to get on the internet with my newly installed FriendlyNet Asante 10/100 Fast PCI 100 Mbps Fast Ethernet Adapter? The Cox cable technician came yesterday, installed it for my Windows 95 but could not get it to work in my Windows 95. He says the driver would not install because I had some corrupt files in Windows 95. He blamed Linux for it. Personally, I do not think he really knew why it was not working. I asked him to help me with the Linux installation but he knew nothing about Linux. He got started with it and he did something with Kudzu then gave up. I do not know where he left off. I have gone through all of the archives and info on the net that I could find about using a cable modem with Linux. I am a true newbie and I just do not know the first thing about doing this. All I know is that my the domain name is cox-internet.com. The IP Address is automatically assigned by the server each time you log on. The Outgoing Mail Server is smtp.cox-internet.com. The Incoming Mail Server is pop.cox-internet.com. The FTP Server is ftp.tcainternet.com. I have Linux-Mandrake 7.0 complete with the DrakX graphical installer. Do you use Kppp for this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marcia
Re: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux
Why use ghost? just become root and do a dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/whatever substitute the whatever with the file that represents the hard disk you are trying to dump to. Works great :-) Dan -- Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities. -- Mark Twain
Re: [newbie] Gnome Xwindows
> 1:- when I Minimize some windows, I never find it, and I can't > restore it, > where is a windows ??? Gnome isn't nice enough just to give you a taskbar, and if that's what you're used to it's kind of annoying at first. There is an applet under the applet utilities menu. I can't find it at the moment (using kde) but it will show a bar to restore it. > 2:- The screen saver of gnome is not work, only if I put screen > saver of > kde I have it. Why I had some grief with the permissions for the screen saver. In the .Xauthority or .xinitrc (I can't remember which one will execute things), add an xhost +localhost see if that helps you. Dan -- Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities. -- Mark Twain
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
i love mine too :) Mark Weaver wrote: > I tootally agree! :) > > -- > Mark > > I love my Linux Box... > REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. > Registered Linux user # 182496 > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Glasscock wrote: > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > > page, not the top. > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > > original, again because of the context. > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a reply > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the message, > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > Bambi > > > >
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
Kathleen Dickason wrote: > Kathleen, being evil and replying on the bottom AND, not editing her extraneous quotes! -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE P.S. I'm I in violation of the four line sigfile rule? P.S.S. Like I care? "And Where will the law stop itself?" Frederic Bastiat
RE: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
You're welcome. Please post your results to the list. Others will learn from this and the info gets archived into searchable databases. Cheers! -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Flaxman |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 7:51 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mandrake Newbie List |Subject: Re: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief | | |Jose, thanks for the info. I did it and it solved the problem. This |should have been a 'man rpm' solution. Sorry. | |Harry | | |"Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: |> |> rpm --rebuilddb |> |> -JMS |> |> |-Original Message- |> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Flaxman |> |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 7:43 AM |> |-- |___ |Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 |http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman |ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769
[newbie] Multiple questions on Mandrake 7.0
1) Having trouble getting proper configuration for a 3Com 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card 3CCFE575BT on my Thinkpad 760 XL. Under KDE, the card works correctly for a couple of minutes and then just stops. Pinging the machine over my local lan then gets no response and I can't get to the internet via my DSL connection. Works better under Gnome desktop, but only for longer. Any suggestions? Is there a driver out there for this device that I can put on a floppy and copy to the Thinkpad? 2) I have two Macs on the same LAN as the Thinkpad and I want to copy files from one of them to the Linux Thinkpad to use it a a web server. Both are configured with IP addresses and file sharing is on. HOw do I get the Thinkpad to see them so that I can move files? Or conversely, can I get the Macs to see the Thinkpad and drag and drop files to it from them? 3) I tried to upgrade to Mandrake 7.1 by burning the two 7.1 iso images found on line from the Madrake site. The install halts early with a message saying unable to start ram disk, or something close to that. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Andy
RE: [newbie] Network Card trouble
This does not sound like a Linux problem. Are you sure that the BIOS is not set to a power saving mode that shuts off power to the PCMCIA devices? This is highly probably and would account for what you see... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: Joe Brault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:51 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Network Card trouble | | |Hello all, | |I have an interesting problem with my pcmcia network card... When I boot |Linux, I recieve the error that my ethernetwork initialization has failied |(something similiar to that) and My network card is not activated, however |if I remove the card and reinsert it, it will become active as eth0 when I |look under ifconfig. But a few minutes later, I will hear a low beep and my |network card will be shut off. |I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong here... Can someone tell me how I |should go about setting up my card in linuxconf if that's what I need to do |(my ultimate goal is to set up SAMBA so I can talk to my other |linux box and |my winbloz box...) I appreciate any help with this, i'm pretty lost. |Thanks in advance! | |- Joe :) | |Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com |
RE: [newbie] Problem !
It helps to understand the nature of the error message... The Kernel Panic error indicates that Linux is unable to utilize the swap partition you created, when it needs it. You have a problem with the SCSI bus itself... that is the cable going from your SCSI adapter to your SCSI drive(s). The fact that formatting fails also indicates this. (assuming you do not have a failing hard drive.) You need to make sure that you have your temination set up properly. Does the last drive on the cable have a terminator on it? Is it the ONLY drive with a terminator on it? Is the SCSI card terminated as well? You should immediately check this AND replace your scsi cable too. Lastly, terminator "power" sometimes causes problems with older drives. Usually only one or two devices supply terminator power (voltage to the SCSI bus' "pull up" resistors) but not all of them. Most devices arrive with terminator power ENABLED, so if you have more than one device on the cable, it's a good idea to disable terminator power on all but two. -JMS -Original Message- From: Saikalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 3:40 PM To: Linux Subject: [newbie] Problem ! Hello ! I'm looking for information to solve this problem: I've been trying to install Mandrake 5.3 on my computer for weeks. I'm trying to install it on a SCSI Seagate hard disk I've tried several solutions (changing the IRQ number of the Scsi host...) each time everything freezes either when it is formatting the Linux native partition or while it is installing the packages. The message I get (using F12 knob) is : Kernel Panic. Scsi free: trying to free unused memory in swapper task - not syncing. I have an old computer (AMD 5X86) with 20 MO of Ram You can write to me either in english or french. Thanks a lot in advance.! Please use only this adress for the answer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serge
Re: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
Jose, thanks for the info. I did it and it solved the problem. This should have been a 'man rpm' solution. Sorry. Harry "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: > > rpm --rebuilddb > > -JMS > > |-Original Message- > |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Flaxman > |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 7:43 AM > -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769
[newbie] Using PM Special Edition with Windows NT4 SP5
Hi, I would like to resize my partitions but my earlier email answers were deleted during reformatting. When I rebooted my computer with the Partition Magic Special Edition, I get an error 101 or 102. In other words, no partitions can be identified. I know that it can be done. Should I insert the MDK7.1 installation CD and delete the Linux partition first? Or, should I boot up with a Windows 98 startup floppy, and type in: fdisk/MBR to get rid of Grub or lilo, reboot, and then delete the partition? Roman Registered Linux User 179293
Re: [newbie] VI - colors - help!
Paul wrote: > > Hello and help! > > Since I upgraded to 7.1, I noticed that vi has all kinds of colors in the > text. Now I pulled a webpage (linux.htm) into vi, and I can't read most of > it anymore. > I am colorblind, and there are lots of dark colors in it. I really can't > make out what is what anymore. > > Can someone tell me how to get rid of the colors? The previous version had > bold and underline, which worked for me. I can't use vi for webpages > anymore this way, and that hurts. Say whatever you want but I love vi. > > Paul > Try :syn off as a command in vim. -- Steve - Cheltenham, UK - In love and light we are In darkness we are no less
[newbie] Let me repharse :)
How can I find out what is using port 1024?
RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
Dont let the door hit you on the way out :) Bye On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, you wrote: > So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be > unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to > win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as > far as I can see... > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 12:43 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > > > I tootally agree! :) > > > > -- > > Mark > > > > I love my Linux Box... > > REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. > > Registered Linux user # 182496 > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Glasscock wrote: > > > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > > > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > > > page, not the top. > > > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > > > original, again because of the context. > > > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that > > in a reply > > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of > > the message, > > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
- Original Message - . > > BTW: Why does Mandrake set the partition type of extended partitions > to 85? > > > > Alexander Skwar > -- > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com > Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys > ICQ: 7328191 > > I should have mentioned that I installed in Automatic Mode. .There is a bug in 7.1 that when installed in this Mode causes the first extended partition on a drive to become Type 85. Charles
[newbie] After installing Linux Grub ->Windows NT4 Event Viewer Gives Startup Error
Hi again, This may be off topic but I'm not sure, and it's directed to any one that has a WinNT4 partition. After partitioning and installing Linux I get this startup error. It shows up in the Event Viewer that's driving me crazy. The ZipToA service failed to start due to the following error: The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion. Is this due to the Linux installation and Grub? Roman
[newbie] Linksys LNE100TX Nic under Mandrake 7.1
I have a dual boot system running Win98 and Linux. Recently, I upgraded my network card to a Linksys LNE100TX(ver. 4) and then upgraded from SuSE Linux 6.4 to Mandrake 7.1. Neither version of Linux will install my network card. Checking PCI devices shows an Ethernet card present but the vendor is unknown. I've tried all the tricks: compiling the latest tulip driver (I get a ton of errors), changing network settings, changing BIOS settings, etc. No luck. Has anyone had any luck with this card? I have scanned all the support pages and news groups I can find, but to no avail. They all mention compiling the driver, but I can't seem to make that work. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mike Valley
Re: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux
Am I understanding correctly that this Ghost is run from the DOS partition on not the Linux partition? -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: > What a deal. I have to admit, it is a lifesaver. > > Roman > > > M Thompson wrote: > > > > Roman, > > > > Norton Ghost will accomplish this task for you. I have a spare 1.5 GB drive > > in my PC that I use to hold the image file. My other drive is an 18 GB > > drive. Norton Ghost is able to compress the image file too. > > > > Take care, > > Matt > > > > >From: Romanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux > > >Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 12:07:28 -0500 > > > > > >Hi everybody, > > > > > >Is it possible to create an image file with all partitions, including > > >Linux? > > > > > >Roman > > >Registered Linux User #179232 > > > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >
Re: [newbie] Thanks, but...no thanks
I take it you never unplug and just let it out... good luck with your Linux box. May you know many happy years with your Penguin. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Steve Westwood wrote: > I joined this list under the impression that its members would be able to help > me as a newbie, and that sooner or later I'd be able to repay their kindness by > helping other newbies. > > I have had a good deal of help from some of you - thanks Eric and others - but > there's just too much irrelevant, off-topic stuff which isn't going to help > *anyone*. > > So... I'm unsubscribing. > > Steve Westwood. > New to Linux but 15 years in IT. > > >
Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list
Which is? :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Romanator wrote: > I think this has been blown out of proportion. Every one can make a slip > up. > But let's get back to the original purpose for this list. > > Cheers! > > Roman > > Mike & Tracy Holt wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure if this forum is moderated, but isn't this whole topic taking > > > focus off of why everyone is here? I believe it was said once that Plain > > > Text is to be used in this forum. If so, then lets just go with that? > > > I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, just the whole Text v. HTML topic > > > is filling my box, this is already an active enough forum. > > > Just my thoughts > > > > > > Mark > > > > Someone has posted this question a couple of days ago and to be polite, > > people have answered. I don't know how long you've been on this list, > > but people will occasionally have a slip and forget to turn off html when > > sending > > a message. This seems to invoke quite a rage from some people and that's > > what > > this is about. > > > > Mike > >
Re: [newbie] To Buy or not to buy
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > Speaking from my experience I say that there is no > compelling reason to update if you are happy with your > current install. I made the leap to 7.1 last week and > have been plagued by problems ever since. > > Mouse wheel refuses to work. Over all performance is > slow. Gnome and enlightenment crash when I try to > open netscape. GQphoto doesn't work. It leaves weird > artifacts on my desktop. My internet connection is > much slower then it was in 7.02. It went from average > 70-80K to 15-25K download rates. Quake3 is slower and > more laggy. My mouse simply doesn't feel right. > Somethings different but I can't seem to get it to > feel comfortable to me. > > Earlier this morning my girlfriend and I decided to > burn a CD of all our important files, wipe the whole > drive and re-install 7.02. > > Thats my experience with 7.1. Yours will probably be > different. > > > Dacia > > --- Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let me throw this out again, I need help in deciding > > whether or not to > > upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1. If YES!!, (if I may jump in here) 7.1 has been THE most problematic install I have ever done in about a dozen different flavors and versions, including FreeBSD and Debian. I think Mandrake ought to stop with making it easier and fancier and get it back to stable and less bug-ridden. This is after all, Linux's strong suit. At $50.00+ I am seriously dissapointed w/ Mandrakesoft and Macmillan. This is my third Mandrake, and probably my last. Don't court Windows users by becoming the Beast itself! - TRBishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #12043
Re: [newbie] MDK7.1 IDE Configuration Freezes During InstallationonDell Dimension XPS PII 200 MMX
Whew!! I thought the problem was with my computer, only. The weird thing is that MDK7.0 should have installed on a Pentium II. I have a i586 installation. I think further investigation is needed and documented. Roman Gil Baron W0MN wrote: > > You are not alone with install problems with this poorly tested version 7.1. > See my video problems on expert. Xfree86 (the thing I needed most in the > upgrade) fails with my configuration. In fact , with 2 different > configurations on two different machines. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Anderson > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 12:16 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] MDK7.1 IDE Configuration Freezes During > > Installation onDell Dimension XPS PII 200 MMX > > > > > > Romanator wrote: > > Hi, > >I'm having the same problem with the computer freezing when detecting > > the ide drives. Mandrake 7.0 installed without any problems,but 7.1 > > always freezes.I've tried different drives,so I don't think the drive > > itself is the problem. I don't know the name of the board,but it has a > > via chipset,and running a AMD K6-2 450 processor. > > Thanks, > >Dan > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > I have been trying to install MDK7.1x on to my older Dell Dimensions XPS > > > 200s MMX('ala 1997). > > > I have a two drives configured with a Creative CD-ROM and Iomega ZIP > > > drive. The original OS is Win95. > > > > > > Original Hard Drive (sorry I do not have the name) > > > A) 3 Gig. drive connected the first bus (I'm not sure of the brand > > > name)->has Win95 on 1st partition > > > Recent Hard drive (Fujitsu) > > > B) 10 Gig. drive connected to the second bus (Fujitsu - purchased last > > > year)-has Win98SE on 1st partition > > > > > > MDK Installation 7.0 > > > MDK7.0 never installed on the 10 Gig. as it went to text mode and > > > appeared to not recognize the hard drive. All I could see was the large > > > penguin in the top left corner while slowly scrolling up line by line. > > > The MDK7.0 installation CD is for Pentium i586 and higher. > > > > > > MDK Installation 7.1 Helium > > > So then I tried MDK 7.1. The installation got as far as searching and > > > configuring IDE and then it froze. > > > I tried stopping the installation and it finally blacked out to DOS. The > > > message indicated that some of drivers were older and may have to be > > > upgraded? Has any one experienced anything remotely similar? > > > This is a 10 Gig. Fujitsu, and its not that old. > > > > > > It appears that the configuration may be a bit screwed up after adding > > > the additional hard drive. > > > Actually, I had a colleague configure this. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Roman > > > >
Re: [newbie] Do I have to stop the car?!? [was Reply text goes ON TOP]
Now THAT's what I call a sense of humor! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > Sorry, I'm not a net newbie. I've been on the net > since I've had a computer. Going on seven years. I'm > sure I am not the only person on this list who is new > to linux but not new to the net. > > Personally I don't care where you put your replies. > Top, bottom, middle, whatever. I also do not care if > you use HTML, plain text, custom made jpg's or > freakin' flash animations. I'm indifferent. > > All I care about is if you need help with something or > you've got a good idea on how to fix something. This > discussion is neither so from now on I will delete > every email with this subject line. > > > Dacia > > > --- Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 10:11:53AM -0400, walt > > wrote: > > > is this a linux list or what?..stop the crap, > > it is spam > > > > This is basically a newbie list. Yes, it is a > > Mandrake Newbie list, > > but because most Linux Newbies are also 'Net newbies > > this makes every > > Linux Newbie list/group automatically a 'net newbie > > list/group. > > > > What do you mean by "it is spam"? > > > > Alexander Skwar > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com > > Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > fuer GnuPG Keys > > ICQ:7328191 > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 04:45:35PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > Aah YEAH!!! it just keeps getting better and better! Well, but he's actually right. If that "walt" person really thinks that w2k is better, why shouldn't he encourage him to go back to this "os"? PS: Please only quote the relevant text. Thanks. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] Helix? What is it?
On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 04:47:23AM -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: > Is the Gnome in Mandrake 7.1 the "Helix" version or is that another version? No, the Helix GNOME Desktop must be sperately downloaded from www.helixcode.com. PS: Please quote only the lines that you refer to, and not the whole text. Thanks. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] X window
I've got a S3 Trio3D in an IBM Netfinity 3000 that I have never got to work in anything but 1024x768 Frame Buffer mode, and unfortunately I fiddled with /etc/lilo.conf one to many times without an emergency disk and had to re-install Mandrake 7.1. It has never worked again even though I followed the same config again. Anyway, I've attatched IBM's directions for setting it up in Frame Buffer mode, but if you are looking of better performance... I suugest that you buy another card and save yourself the months of sleepless nights trying to make it work, the saved time really makes this cheaper. Just substitute in the latest 3.3.6-x version (not 4.0.x, a whole diff game): Appendix A: Installing the VESA/Frame Buffer server After the installed system has restarted, at the boot: prompt, type linux text. With the system started in command mode, login as root. Mount the Red Hat Linux 6.0 CD and install the frame buffer server package by typing the following text: # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom # cd /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS # rpm -ivh XFree86-FBDev-3.3.3.1-49.i386.rpm 4. Save the current symbolic link by running # mv /etc/X11/X /etc/X11/X.old. 5. Create a new symbolic link by running # ln -s ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_FBDev /etc/X11/X. 6. Edit /etc/lilo.conf to add a new entry for the frame buffer server by copying the existing entry. Only add a vga=773 line after the image line and change the label so that it is unique to other entries. The following is an example of a kernel entry with frame buffer server installed: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 vga=773 label=linux-fb root=/dev/sdxx initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.5-15.img read-only Warning: Do not remove the existing entry. Do not make any changes to the root line in the new entry. The first kernel entry in "/etc/lilo.conf" is loaded by default. 773 indicates 1024 x 768 pixel density with 8 bit color depth. For more information, see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt (kernel-source-2.2.5-15.i386.rpm package). 7. Update the master boot record and the LILO boot loader by running # lilo -v. 8. Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config to create a new section entry for the frame buffer server under the Screen section. Copy the following example of a Screen entry and make the necessary changes. NOTE : and depend upon predefined strings in XF86Config. Replace "" with the string following "Identifier" under "Device" in the Graphics device section. Replace "" with the string following "Identifier" under "Monitor" in the Monitor section. Section "Screen" Driver "fbdev" Device "" Monitor "" Subsection "Display" Modes "default" EndSubsection EndSection 9. Reboot the system and remove media. 10. At the LILO boot prompt, press Tab for kernel options or press Enter if the new kernel was set as the default kernel. 11. After the system restarts in command mode, issue the startx command to enter the X Window __ Hope this helps, I'm trying to work up the guts to try X 4.0.1-2 after 4 months of trying with 3.3.6. Although, I did buy a $30 Permedia II just in case. Victor Dennis Myers wrote: I tried Xconfigurator and was unable to bring up the Xserver. I have a S3 Trio 3D/2X video card and Linux seems to have a problem with it. I guess this answers the question of should I upgrade. Hopefully 7.1 will support S3 better. Or maybe I should get a new card. The AGP slot is easy to swap out. Anybody know of a totally compatible video card that linux has no problems with? Or any other suggestions would be helpful. I sending this out of a 'windows' box and it is just killing me. Dennis Eunice Thompson wrote: > Dennis Myers wrote: > > > > I lost my Xwindow again. The common thread seems to be Star Office. > > Whenever I mess with SO my xserver crashes. Any way I have tried going > > to XF86Setup and XFconfig and every other xf or XF I could think of and > > I either get not a command or can't communicate with the x server. Any > > one no of some command line input to get me to the configuration. Oh, > > one of the messages I saw flash up briefly said something about not > > enough memory. Any help would be appreciated. I'm about ready to do a > > clean install again and throw out Star Office altogether. > > Try Xconfigurator. > I don't thnk you need to do a clean install. > you might be able to use Kpackage to uninstall Star Office. > There is a remove command 'rm'.for more info on how to use it > type 'man rm' or 'info rm' > Or you can always add more memory to you box or ( here I'm just > guessing) increase the swap partition > > Good Luck > > Eunice Thompson
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
How can Is tart Linux fdisk? Or do you mean Diskdrake? Well, how do I start both or access both? Sorry for this very newbie question. =) On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Or you can simply change the partition type of your extended partition > from 85 to 5 with the Linux fdisk program. That way PM should be able -- John M Catral [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7113128 http://i.am/JohnCatral Registered Linux User #183190
Re: [newbie] VI - colors - help!
This page has na list of multiple VI doc pages; http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vi/#docs I'm not sure if this is an answer but, the VIM homepage ( http://www.vim.org ) states: The VIM FAQ will shortly be rewritten. The "style" will be something like this: FAQ: How to set the default colors for GUI? [gvim, color setup] Use the command ":hilight". Example: :hi Normal guibg=white guifg=black At least give it a try, Victor Mark Weaver wrote: Why not just make things easy on yourself and load an earlier version of VI from an older Linux distro like RH6.0 or 6.1. Those didn't ship the release of VI VIM that supported colored syntax. Would/might be a little easier and less time consuming for you if you're not too familiar with VI operations. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike & Tracy Holt wrote: > I'm sorry I don't use VI, but I've read something about not including it > anymore and that it's actually some kind of enhanced VIM? (The added > colors, etc that you're talking about). Anyway, I've just searched > linuxberg and can't find a download, but possibly there's a way to turn off > the syntax highlighting? Have you checked the howto's? I'm in my Win2k > system right now so I can't look. > > Good luck! > Mike > > > > Hello and help! > > > > Since I upgraded to 7.1, I noticed that vi has all kinds of colors in the > > text. Now I pulled a webpage (linux.htm) into vi, and I can't read most of > > it anymore. > > I am colorblind, and there are lots of dark colors in it. I really can't > > make out what is what anymore. > > > > Can someone tell me how to get rid of the colors? The previous version had > > bold and underline, which worked for me. I can't use vi for webpages > > anymore this way, and that hurts. Say whatever you want but I love vi. > > > > Paul > > > > -- > > Television is democracy at its ugliest. > > - Paddy Chayevsky > > > > )0( [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] )0( > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > > Registered Linux User 174403 > > > >
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
Charles A Edwards wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:18 PM > Subject: RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be > > unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to > > win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as > > far as I can see... > > > >It is always hard for those who can not grasp something unless it is > carried between their legs that there is life and wonder beyond their narrow > minded vision. >Good luck with "unsubdcribing". > >Charles > > P.S. don't forget to use fdisk/MBR to restore your boot record :-} *grin* is that like "don't let the door hit you on the way out"? Kathleen, being evil and replying on the bottom
Re: [newbie] Search engines: Useful program not available toLinux users
Not just "'Nix" based its a 4000 node Red Hat LINUX cluster 8) > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > Gee and I thought I was the only one who still used Metacrawler! > > > > Also like Google. > > > > Bambi > > Google rules, (of course, its 'Nix based!) > > Love those response times... ;-) > > -- > /\ > Dark> \/
RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
O come on! where's your sense of Humor? Ya just gotta unplug once in a while and let your hair down! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > Absolutely. I'm totally sick of reading this > arguement. Please take it elsewhere people. Lets > talk about linux not email. > > > Dacia > --- walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is this a linux list or what?..stop the crap, it > > is spam > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > > Behalf Of John Glasscock > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:44 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > > > > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text > > below the original. The > > > original is there to give reference to the new > > comments and the > > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization > > that you put the > > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are > > at the bottom of a > > > page, not the top. > > > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points > > in an email or > > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set > > your new text below the > > > original, again because of the context. > > > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or > > out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, > > Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The > > netiquette also states that > > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you > > quote, and that in a reply > > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely > > neccessary parts of the message, > > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > -- > > > John Glasscock > > > Administrator & Programmer > > > EtherDog MultiMedia > > > 3821 N Sugar Lane > > > Bloomington, IN 47404 > > > tel:+1.812.876.5233 > > > fax:+1.508.256.2413 > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Registered Linux User# 183536 > > > on Registered Linux Box# 81201 > > > > > > "Save the world, eschew Microsoft." > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 01:05:22PM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > Linux partitions then PM will see them all as 1 Type 85 partition and you > > will not be make any changes to the partitions using PM. You will instead > > Or you can simply change the partition type of your extended partition > from 85 to 5 with the Linux fdisk program. That way PM should be able > to see the contents of your extended partition. > > BTW: Why does Mandrake set the partition type of extended partitions > to 85? > > PS: Only quote as much as needed, and not the whole text. Thanks. > > AleSk I guess you should watch what you ask for : ) Anyway, Partition Magic has always been able to determine that Linux is indeed ext2fs and can even create, move and resize that file type. It can't however do anything with reiserfs, which is the new journaling filesystem that you can optionally install for Linux. Partition Magic identifies that type as '85' which I was wondering myself - hexadecimal?? Mike
RE: [newbie] MDK7.1 IDE Configuration Freezes During Installation onDell Dimension XPS PII 200 MMX
You are not alone with install problems with this poorly tested version 7.1. See my video problems on expert. Xfree86 (the thing I needed most in the upgrade) fails with my configuration. In fact , with 2 different configurations on two different machines. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Anderson > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 12:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] MDK7.1 IDE Configuration Freezes During > Installation onDell Dimension XPS PII 200 MMX > > > Romanator wrote: > Hi, >I'm having the same problem with the computer freezing when detecting > the ide drives. Mandrake 7.0 installed without any problems,but 7.1 > always freezes.I've tried different drives,so I don't think the drive > itself is the problem. I don't know the name of the board,but it has a > via chipset,and running a AMD K6-2 450 processor. > Thanks, >Dan > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I have been trying to install MDK7.1x on to my older Dell Dimensions XPS > > 200s MMX('ala 1997). > > I have a two drives configured with a Creative CD-ROM and Iomega ZIP > > drive. The original OS is Win95. > > > > Original Hard Drive (sorry I do not have the name) > > A) 3 Gig. drive connected the first bus (I'm not sure of the brand > > name)->has Win95 on 1st partition > > Recent Hard drive (Fujitsu) > > B) 10 Gig. drive connected to the second bus (Fujitsu - purchased last > > year)-has Win98SE on 1st partition > > > > MDK Installation 7.0 > > MDK7.0 never installed on the 10 Gig. as it went to text mode and > > appeared to not recognize the hard drive. All I could see was the large > > penguin in the top left corner while slowly scrolling up line by line. > > The MDK7.0 installation CD is for Pentium i586 and higher. > > > > MDK Installation 7.1 Helium > > So then I tried MDK 7.1. The installation got as far as searching and > > configuring IDE and then it froze. > > I tried stopping the installation and it finally blacked out to DOS. The > > message indicated that some of drivers were older and may have to be > > upgraded? Has any one experienced anything remotely similar? > > This is a 10 Gig. Fujitsu, and its not that old. > > > > It appears that the configuration may be a bit screwed up after adding > > the additional hard drive. > > Actually, I had a colleague configure this. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Roman > >
Re: [newbie] MDK7.1 IDE Configuration Freezes During InstallationonDell Dimension XPS PII 200 MMX
Dan, I could not get MDK 7.0 installed. I did see some installation script patches on the linux-mandrake.com web site. I was wondering if my IDE configuration problem points to the way the hard drive is configured. That is, two hard drives on separate buss lines. I'm glad that I wasn't the only one experiencing this. I still think the best way to isolate the problem is to strip down any fancy configurations. Then, begin with a single drive, CD-ROM with Zip drive(in my case), and proceed from there. I will take notes. This may be easier to isolate the problem. I remember a message pointing to a table. I have to check my older emails. When Linux gets installed, I will add a step-by-step help file. I have to admit, this has been an eye opening learning experience on installation. Installations should be very transparent. And, we take this for granted. I'll check up on the freezing business. Cheers! Roman Daniel Anderson wrote: > > Romanator wrote: > Hi, >I'm having the same problem with the computer freezing when detecting > the ide drives. Mandrake 7.0 installed without any problems,but 7.1 > always freezes.I've tried different drives,so I don't think the drive > itself is the problem. I don't know the name of the board,but it has a > via chipset,and running a AMD K6-2 450 processor. > Thanks, >Dan > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I have been trying to install MDK7.1x on to my older Dell Dimensions XPS > > 200s MMX('ala 1997). > > I have a two drives configured with a Creative CD-ROM and Iomega ZIP > > drive. The original OS is Win95. > > > > Original Hard Drive (sorry I do not have the name) > > A) 3 Gig. drive connected the first bus (I'm not sure of the brand > > name)->has Win95 on 1st partition > > Recent Hard drive (Fujitsu) > > B) 10 Gig. drive connected to the second bus (Fujitsu - purchased last > > year)-has Win98SE on 1st partition > > > > MDK Installation 7.0 > > MDK7.0 never installed on the 10 Gig. as it went to text mode and > > appeared to not recognize the hard drive. All I could see was the large > > penguin in the top left corner while slowly scrolling up line by line. > > The MDK7.0 installation CD is for Pentium i586 and higher. > > > > MDK Installation 7.1 Helium > > So then I tried MDK 7.1. The installation got as far as searching and > > configuring IDE and then it froze. > > I tried stopping the installation and it finally blacked out to DOS. The > > message indicated that some of drivers were older and may have to be > > upgraded? Has any one experienced anything remotely similar? > > This is a 10 Gig. Fujitsu, and its not that old. > > > > It appears that the configuration may be a bit screwed up after adding > > the additional hard drive. > > Actually, I had a colleague configure this. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Roman
[newbie] Multiple Idenities Email
Is there an email client and/or work around to kmail's lack of multiple idenities? The client would have to be GUI based. Right now the only workaround I see is to create some more users and have their only purpose being to collect mail for me. That or change my idenity in the settings whenever I send out an email. So is there an email client (other than Netscape) that'll let me do this? Or am I going to have to wait till the next major release of Kmail comes out (which will support multiple idenities)? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
Absolutely. I'm totally sick of reading this arguement. Please take it elsewhere people. Lets talk about linux not email. Dacia --- walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is this a linux list or what?..stop the crap, it > is spam > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of John Glasscock > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:44 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text > below the original. The > > original is there to give reference to the new > comments and the > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization > that you put the > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are > at the bottom of a > > page, not the top. > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points > in an email or > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set > your new text below the > > original, again because of the context. > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or > out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, > Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The > netiquette also states that > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you > quote, and that in a reply > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely > neccessary parts of the message, > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > Bambi > > > > -- > > John Glasscock > > Administrator & Programmer > > EtherDog MultiMedia > > 3821 N Sugar Lane > > Bloomington, IN 47404 > > tel:+1.812.876.5233 > > fax:+1.508.256.2413 > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Registered Linux User# 183536 > > on Registered Linux Box# 81201 > > > > "Save the world, eschew Microsoft." > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] X window
I have much the same problem. See my post on Expert. It stands to reason they should test this better. The WORST thing that an happen in my opinion is REGRESSION and that is what has happened. I realize the y can't test all possibilities and maybe my video is unusual but S3, gimme a break! I NEED the upgrade for wheel mouse and my video but I guess I will have to wait and hope they fix it in 7.2. You may not like windows but this does no happen there! > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] X window > > > I tried Xconfigurator and was unable to bring up the Xserver. I have a S3 > Trio 3D/2X video card and Linux seems to have a problem with it. > I guess this > answers the question of should I upgrade. Hopefully 7.1 will support S3 > better. Or maybe I should get a new card. The AGP slot is easy to > swap out. > Anybody know of a totally compatible video card that linux has > no problems > with? Or any other suggestions would be helpful. I sending this out of a > 'windows' box and it is just killing me. Dennis > > Eunice Thompson wrote: > > > Dennis Myers wrote: > > > > > > I lost my Xwindow again. The common thread seems to be Star Office. > > > Whenever I mess with SO my xserver crashes. Any way I have tried going > > > to XF86Setup and XFconfig and every other xf or XF I could > think of and > > > I either get not a command or can't communicate with the x server. Any > > > one no of some command line input to get me to the configuration. Oh, > > > one of the messages I saw flash up briefly said something about not > > > enough memory. Any help would be appreciated. I'm about ready to do a > > > clean install again and throw out Star Office altogether. > > > > Try Xconfigurator. > > I don't thnk you need to do a clean install. > > you might be able to use Kpackage to uninstall Star Office. > > There is a remove command 'rm'.for more info on how to use it > > type 'man rm' or 'info rm' > > Or you can always add more memory to you box or ( here I'm just > > guessing) increase the swap partition > > > > Good Luck > > > > Eunice Thompson > >
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 01:05:22PM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > Linux partitions then PM will see them all as 1 Type 85 partition and you > will not be make any changes to the partitions using PM. You will instead Or you can simply change the partition type of your extended partition from 85 to 5 with the Linux fdisk program. That way PM should be able to see the contents of your extended partition. BTW: Why does Mandrake set the partition type of extended partitions to 85? PS: Only quote as much as needed, and not the whole text. Thanks. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] No CDROM music?
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: >Hmmm...I just tried the same thing and it didn't work for me. I don't get >it. I've been trying to get this to work for weeks and it just won't! how >come? I don't know. Do you have any windows-contraption on your system? If yes, does it work there? Are you sure there's an audio cable from the CD player to your audio card? And it is connected properly? Paul -- Television is democracy at its ugliest. - Paddy Chayevsky )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote: > >Partition Magic has a Linux version?? > >> Partition Magic is what I like best. I am not sure if DiskDrake wil retain >> the info on the disks.. >> Paul No. Partition magic is distributed on the Deluxe (I think) package you can buy. Or get it direct from the distributor. Name slipped my mind... Paul -- Television is democracy at its ugliest. - Paddy Chayevsky )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
O YES!!!...AMEN and AMEN... Truer words were never spoken MORE eliquently :) Ever notice how truth has a way of ringing ever louder than the din of... crap? -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:18 PM > Subject: RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be > > unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to > > win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as > > far as I can see... > > > > >It is always hard for those who can not grasp something unless it is > carried between their legs that there is life and wonder beyond their narrow > minded vision. >Good luck with "unsubdcribing". > >Charles > > P.S. don't forget to use fdisk/MBR to restore your boot record :-} > > > > >
RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
Let me put this as gently as possible. You must be able to open a termial window without shaking and vomiting from fright, and be able to say something other than. "O my god! what does this do?" to be able to appreciate the REAL power and STABILITY that is NORMAL and expected from Linux. Since these things don't exist in the Windows world I'm really not suprised to hear you say what you've said. You haven't yet swalowed the last bite that Micr$oft has fed you. You know...it's not polite to talk with your mouth full... :) And please... take no offense at these ramblings, for that's all they are and weren't meant, in any way to suggest that you've got an IQ less than that of a piece of lunchmeat. I just couldn't help myself. I get silly everytime I hear a Windows user wondering what all the hype is about sitting behind their WINDOWS screen mailing to a LINUX mailing list! I don't know...maybe it's just me. Either get in the water and test it and then decide whether you like it or not, but please...don't sit on the wall and say the swimming is terrible. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, walt wrote: > So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be > unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to > win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as > far as I can see... > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 12:43 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > > > I tootally agree! :) > > > > -- > > Mark > > > > I love my Linux Box... > > REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. > > Registered Linux user # 182496 > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Glasscock wrote: > > > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > > > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > > > page, not the top. > > > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > > > original, again because of the context. > > > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that > > in a reply > > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of > > the message, > > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > > > > > > >
[newbie] Problem !
Hello ! I'm looking for information to solve this problem: I've been trying to install Mandrake 5.3 on my computer for weeks. I'm trying to install it on a SCSI Seagate hard disk I've tried several solutions (changing the IRQ number of the Scsi host...) each time everything freezes either when it is formatting the Linux native partition or while it is installing the packages. The message I get (using F12 knob) is : Kernel Panic. Scsi free: trying to free unused memory in swapper task - not syncing. I have an old computer (AMD 5X86) with 20 MO of Ram You can write to me either in english or french. Thanks a lot in advance.! Please use only this adress for the answer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serge
Re: [newbie] how to unsubscribe or temporarily drop (fwd)
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 09:41:12PM +0100, Paul wrote: > > For all the unsubscribees. > I may turn this into a weekly lecture, plenty of students, as obvious... What about putting that into the signature of each and every outgoing message? That way nobdoy can say that he didn't know how to unsubscribe. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 03:55:47PM -0400, Pete Clapham wrote: > I have used Ghost (I think version 5, but I'm not sure) to copy drives. Why use an "external" commercial programm, when all you need is already available with the tools that come with your Linux OS? PS: Please quote only as much as possible. Thanks. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] VI - colors - help!
Why not just make things easy on yourself and load an earlier version of VI from an older Linux distro like RH6.0 or 6.1. Those didn't ship the release of VI VIM that supported colored syntax. Would/might be a little easier and less time consuming for you if you're not too familiar with VI operations. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Mike & Tracy Holt wrote: > I'm sorry I don't use VI, but I've read something about not including it > anymore and that it's actually some kind of enhanced VIM? (The added > colors, etc that you're talking about). Anyway, I've just searched > linuxberg and can't find a download, but possibly there's a way to turn off > the syntax highlighting? Have you checked the howto's? I'm in my Win2k > system right now so I can't look. > > Good luck! > Mike > > > > Hello and help! > > > > Since I upgraded to 7.1, I noticed that vi has all kinds of colors in the > > text. Now I pulled a webpage (linux.htm) into vi, and I can't read most of > > it anymore. > > I am colorblind, and there are lots of dark colors in it. I really can't > > make out what is what anymore. > > > > Can someone tell me how to get rid of the colors? The previous version had > > bold and underline, which worked for me. I can't use vi for webpages > > anymore this way, and that hurts. Say whatever you want but I love vi. > > > > Paul > > > > -- > > Television is democracy at its ugliest. > > - Paddy Chayevsky > > > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > > Registered Linux User 174403 > > > >
Re: [newbie] To Buy or not to buy
Speaking from my experience I say that there is no compelling reason to update if you are happy with your current install. I made the leap to 7.1 last week and have been plagued by problems ever since. Mouse wheel refuses to work. Over all performance is slow. Gnome and enlightenment crash when I try to open netscape. GQphoto doesn't work. It leaves weird artifacts on my desktop. My internet connection is much slower then it was in 7.02. It went from average 70-80K to 15-25K download rates. Quake3 is slower and more laggy. My mouse simply doesn't feel right. Somethings different but I can't seem to get it to feel comfortable to me. Earlier this morning my girlfriend and I decided to burn a CD of all our important files, wipe the whole drive and re-install 7.02. Thats my experience with 7.1. Yours will probably be different. Dacia --- Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me throw this out again, I need help in deciding > whether or not to > upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1. If everything is working > ok in 7.0 is there > any compelling reason to upgrade? Also, if I do get > 7.1 will an upgrade > do the job or should I do a clean install, or > something in the middle? > Anyone with experiences either way just jump right > in here. I'm leaning > towards the upgrade and could be tipped over pretty > easy. I will go out > and buy the deluxe package if it seems reasonable ( > I like the idea of > supporting the Commercial companies to keep the > linux fire in the > consumers sphere of attention). I can't do a d/l > since for now I'm > running a 56K modem. All opinions are welcome. > Thanks, > > -- > Dennis-Registered Linux User #180842 > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux
Hi -- I have used Ghost (I think version 5, but I'm not sure) to copy drives. It works fine for NT and OS/2, but I've not gotten good results with Linux. Has anybody tried the most recent version of Ghost? On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, you wrote: > On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 12:07:28PM -0500, Romanator wrote: > > Is it possible to create an image file with all partitions, including > > Linux? > > If your partition is smaller than 2 GB, a dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/hdb/output-file > will do it. > > This will create the file output-file in /mnt/hdb. You should take > care to save the file (output-file) in a directory which is not on the > same drive though. > > If your partition is bigger than 2 GB, you're in bad luck with dd. It > can only read/write files upto 2GB max (currently). > > To still be able to backup your whole drive, first save the parition > entries to a file. sfdisk -lx will print out all the entries. Then > something like "tar spcfvI /tmp/MyBackupFile.tar.bz2 -C / . > --exclude=/tmp/MyBackupFile.tar.bz2". This will create a bzip2'd tar > file containing all your files in /tmp called MyBackupFile.tar.bz2. > If this still results in a file bigger than 2 GB (tar can also not > handle this), think about tar'ing all the dirs seperately. > > HTH > Alexander Skwar > -- > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com > Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys > ICQ: 7328191 -- Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax:[216] 523-7200 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
Hello walt, Sunday, July 16, 2000, 18:18:42, you wrote: w> So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be w> unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to w> win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as w> far as I can see... please, do go... we need a lot of MSFT hostages, so we can keep making money administering for them -- Best regards, Yuri http://linukh.freeservers.com
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
- Original Message - From: "walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be > unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to > win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as > far as I can see... > It is always hard for those who can not grasp something unless it is carried between their legs that there is life and wonder beyond their narrow minded vision. Good luck with "unsubdcribing". Charles P.S. don't forget to use fdisk/MBR to restore your boot record :-}
Re: [newbie] how to unsubscribe or temporarily drop (fwd)
For all the unsubscribees. I may turn this into a weekly lecture, plenty of students, as obvious... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:57:23 +0100 (BST) From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] how to unsubscribe or temporarily drop On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, William Fisher wrote: > >I see questions about this on the list. >would it be possible to add instructions to unsubscribe or temporarily stop >receiving messages be put on the bottom of all messages on this list? >Bill We'll have to interrogate Dennis when he comes back, the list owner should be able to do that. For a start: to leave the list: send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with in the body text just the word unsubscribe To stop getting mail for a while, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body write set newbie nomail To get mail again do the same, just write then set newbie mail
Re: [newbie] X window
I tried Xconfigurator and was unable to bring up the Xserver. I have a S3 Trio 3D/2X video card and Linux seems to have a problem with it. I guess this answers the question of should I upgrade. Hopefully 7.1 will support S3 better. Or maybe I should get a new card. The AGP slot is easy to swap out. Anybody know of a totally compatible video card that linux has no problems with? Or any other suggestions would be helpful. I sending this out of a 'windows' box and it is just killing me. Dennis Eunice Thompson wrote: > Dennis Myers wrote: > > > > I lost my Xwindow again. The common thread seems to be Star Office. > > Whenever I mess with SO my xserver crashes. Any way I have tried going > > to XF86Setup and XFconfig and every other xf or XF I could think of and > > I either get not a command or can't communicate with the x server. Any > > one no of some command line input to get me to the configuration. Oh, > > one of the messages I saw flash up briefly said something about not > > enough memory. Any help would be appreciated. I'm about ready to do a > > clean install again and throw out Star Office altogether. > > Try Xconfigurator. > I don't thnk you need to do a clean install. > you might be able to use Kpackage to uninstall Star Office. > There is a remove command 'rm'.for more info on how to use it > type 'man rm' or 'info rm' > Or you can always add more memory to you box or ( here I'm just > guessing) increase the swap partition > > Good Luck > > Eunice Thompson
Re: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux
Roman, Norton Ghost will accomplish this task for you. I have a spare 1.5 GB drive in my PC that I use to hold the image file. My other drive is an 18 GB drive. Norton Ghost is able to compress the image file too. Take care, Matt >From: Romanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux >Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 12:07:28 -0500 > >Hi everybody, > >Is it possible to create an image file with all partitions, including >Linux? > >Roman >Registered Linux User #179232 > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Network Card trouble
Hello all, I have an interesting problem with my pcmcia network card... When I boot Linux, I recieve the error that my ethernetwork initialization has failied (something similiar to that) and My network card is not activated, however if I remove the card and reinsert it, it will become active as eth0 when I look under ifconfig. But a few minutes later, I will hear a low beep and my network card will be shut off. I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong here... Can someone tell me how I should go about setting up my card in linuxconf if that's what I need to do (my ultimate goal is to set up SAMBA so I can talk to my other linux box and my winbloz box...) I appreciate any help with this, i'm pretty lost. Thanks in advance! - Joe :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
I agree, I've been using Partition Magic for about a year now and it works great! There is another option however; GNU parted. I haven't had the guts to try it, but you can download it from the Mandrake cooker and give it try. ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/parted-1.2.4-1md k.i586.rpm If you do try it, give a report on the list and tell how it works, k? Mike > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote: > > > > >Hi! Can I safely resize a partition in Linux? What software should I use > >then? I need to resize my partition (/home) so that I can use a virtual > >disk with VMWare. Thanks in advance =) > > Partition Magic is what I like best. I am not sure if DiskDrake wil retain > the info on the disks.. > Paul
Re: [newbie] VI - colors - help!
I'm sorry I don't use VI, but I've read something about not including it anymore and that it's actually some kind of enhanced VIM? (The added colors, etc that you're talking about). Anyway, I've just searched linuxberg and can't find a download, but possibly there's a way to turn off the syntax highlighting? Have you checked the howto's? I'm in my Win2k system right now so I can't look. Good luck! Mike > Hello and help! > > Since I upgraded to 7.1, I noticed that vi has all kinds of colors in the > text. Now I pulled a webpage (linux.htm) into vi, and I can't read most of > it anymore. > I am colorblind, and there are lots of dark colors in it. I really can't > make out what is what anymore. > > Can someone tell me how to get rid of the colors? The previous version had > bold and underline, which worked for me. I can't use vi for webpages > anymore this way, and that hurts. Say whatever you want but I love vi. > > Paul > > -- > Television is democracy at its ugliest. > - Paddy Chayevsky > > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 > Registered Linux User 174403 >
[newbie]
Hello all, I have an interesting problem with my pcmcia network card... When I boot Linux, I recieve the error that my ethernetwork initialization has failied (something similiar to that) and My network card is not activated, however if I remove the card and reinsert it, it will become active as eth0 when I look under ifconfig. But a few minutes later, I will hear a low beep and my network card will be shut off. I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong here... Can someone tell me how I should go about setting up my card in linuxconf if that's what I need to do (my ultimate goal is to set up SAMBA so I can talk to my other linux box and my winbloz box...) I appreciate any help with this, i'm pretty lost. Thanks in advance! - Joe :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
> NO! Please don't kill the ...THREAD! It deserves to live just as any other > thread! N!!! > > -- > Mark > > I love my Linux Box... > REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. > Registered Linux user # 182496 > LOL!!!
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
You, me and many others it seems. I will continue to add them to the beginning ...unless I am responding directly to individual portions of a message, in context. It just makes sense and it looks like others appreciate it as well. I didn't think it was 'wrong' and wasn't trying to offend, I was just doing what made sense to me :) Bambi Mark Weaver wrote: > > I tootally agree! :) > > -- > Mark > > I love my Linux Box... > REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. > Registered Linux user # 182496 > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Glasscock wrote: > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > > page, not the top. > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > > original, again because of the context. > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a reply > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the message, > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > Bambi > > > >
Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list
> I'm not sure if this forum is moderated, but isn't this whole topic taking > focus off of why everyone is here? I believe it was said once that Plain > Text is to be used in this forum. If so, then lets just go with that? > I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, just the whole Text v. HTML topic > is filling my box, this is already an active enough forum. > Just my thoughts > > Mark Someone has posted this question a couple of days ago and to be polite, people have answered. I don't know how long you've been on this list, but people will occasionally have a slip and forget to turn off html when sending a message. This seems to invoke quite a rage from some people and that's what this is about. Mike
Re: [newbie] Can I Ghost entire drive including Linux
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 12:07:28PM -0500, Romanator wrote: > Is it possible to create an image file with all partitions, including > Linux? If your partition is smaller than 2 GB, a dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/hdb/output-file will do it. This will create the file output-file in /mnt/hdb. You should take care to save the file (output-file) in a directory which is not on the same drive though. If your partition is bigger than 2 GB, you're in bad luck with dd. It can only read/write files upto 2GB max (currently). To still be able to backup your whole drive, first save the parition entries to a file. sfdisk -lx will print out all the entries. Then something like "tar spcfvI /tmp/MyBackupFile.tar.bz2 -C / . --exclude=/tmp/MyBackupFile.tar.bz2". This will create a bzip2'd tar file containing all your files in /tmp called MyBackupFile.tar.bz2. If this still results in a file bigger than 2 GB (tar can also not handle this), think about tar'ing all the dirs seperately. HTH Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] Text v. HTML messages on this list
Thanks Alan, This makes sense to me. I thought it was such a nuisance to have to scroll to the bottom of a message (most of which I had read earlier) just to get to the new post. I will continue to do this. I will not change :) Bambi Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > Franahhh! Don't change. If you reply to the > previous message in pieces, then yes, each piece belongs below > the part of the original quoted message that you are > specifically replying to. > > But if you reply in total to the message, by all means save us > having to scroll through the entire text of the previous > messge by placing your respopnse at the beginning, followed by > the quoted message. Sheeesh!! > > Alan > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a reply > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the message, > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar > > > -- > > > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com > > > Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys > > > ICQ:7328191 > > > > > > > > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > Bambi
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
That was my thought as well. It made sense to me...it was doing unto others as I wanted it done to me...I dislike inefficiency..with so many messages to got through on this list, it seems very inefficient to have to scroll to the bottom of so many replies, most of which I have already read earlier, to get to the new post. Thanks, Bambi John Glasscock wrote: > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > page, not the top. > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > original, again because of the context. > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a reply > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the message, > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > Bambi > > -- > John Glasscock > Administrator & Programmer > EtherDog MultiMedia > 3821 N Sugar Lane > Bloomington, IN 47404 > tel:+1.812.876.5233 > fax:+1.508.256.2413 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Registered Linux User# 183536 > on Registered Linux Box# 81201 > > "Save the world, eschew Microsoft."
[newbie] Can't get Samba running?
I just installed Mandrake 7.1 and the Samba and Samba Common RPM packages. I've installed it but I can't seem to get it to run. When I get into Webmin and then to SWAT nmbd and smbd are not running. Where should I start looking? Carlton.
Re: [newbie] Wordperfect problem
Hi -- I also tried WP8, and it did that. A bit disconcerting, but one gets used to it. Recently upgraded to WP9, which works just like the windows version. For the price, it's a good deal. pete On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:01:02 -0400, Jeff Malka wrote: >I have Mandrake 7.1 installed on my system. I loaded the wordperfect 8 that >comes on one of the disks with it and it installed just fine. > >I created an icon for it on the desktop which starts it up just fine. >However whenever I clisk on the icon to start WP, it ALSO starts up a >separate console which I do not need and have to close. Is the console >necessary? Can I stop it from doing that? > >Thank you. > >Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Registered Linux user 183185 > > Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Linux and TFT Screens
I am running Linux on a Toshiba Satellite 1625, and it works fine. pete On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:39:47 +0200, Quaylar wrote: >hi ppl ! > >im thinking about buying a TFT screen, and was wondering whether there >could be any problems with linux... >R there any known problems, things to consider, or prerequesites which have >to be given...? > >thx > >--dave > Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] MDK7.1 IDE Configuration Freezes During Installation onDell Dimension XPS PII 200 MMX
Romanator wrote: Hi, I'm having the same problem with the computer freezing when detecting the ide drives. Mandrake 7.0 installed without any problems,but 7.1 always freezes.I've tried different drives,so I don't think the drive itself is the problem. I don't know the name of the board,but it has a via chipset,and running a AMD K6-2 450 processor. Thanks, Dan > > Hi everybody, > > I have been trying to install MDK7.1x on to my older Dell Dimensions XPS > 200s MMX('ala 1997). > I have a two drives configured with a Creative CD-ROM and Iomega ZIP > drive. The original OS is Win95. > > Original Hard Drive (sorry I do not have the name) > A) 3 Gig. drive connected the first bus (I'm not sure of the brand > name)->has Win95 on 1st partition > Recent Hard drive (Fujitsu) > B) 10 Gig. drive connected to the second bus (Fujitsu - purchased last > year)-has Win98SE on 1st partition > > MDK Installation 7.0 > MDK7.0 never installed on the 10 Gig. as it went to text mode and > appeared to not recognize the hard drive. All I could see was the large > penguin in the top left corner while slowly scrolling up line by line. > The MDK7.0 installation CD is for Pentium i586 and higher. > > MDK Installation 7.1 Helium > So then I tried MDK 7.1. The installation got as far as searching and > configuring IDE and then it froze. > I tried stopping the installation and it finally blacked out to DOS. The > message indicated that some of drivers were older and may have to be > upgraded? Has any one experienced anything remotely similar? > This is a 10 Gig. Fujitsu, and its not that old. > > It appears that the configuration may be a bit screwed up after adding > the additional hard drive. > Actually, I had a colleague configure this. > > Any ideas? > > Roman
Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size..
An added note on PM. If you let the Mandrake installation create your Linux partitions then PM will see them all as 1 Type 85 partition and you will not be make any changes to the partitions using PM. You will instead need to use DiskDrake Charles - Original Message - From: "Alan Shoemaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Can Increase a partition size.. > JohnThe Partition Magic CD (or the included CD that comes > with some Linux distros that have PM included with their boxed > set distro) comes with the ability to transfer the PM programs > to a pair of floppies that boot and run the PM programs with > an included version of DR DOS. You can then use PM on a Linux > system by booting the system with these DR DOS/PM floppies. > > Alan > > > John Catral wrote: > > > > Partition Magic has a Linux version?? > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Paul wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Hi! Can I safely resize a partition in Linux? What software should I use > > > >then? I need to resize my partition (/home) so that I can use a virtual > > > >disk with VMWare. Thanks in advance =) > > > > > > Partition Magic is what I like best. I am not sure if DiskDrake wil retain > > > the info on the disks.. > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > -- > > John M Catral > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ICQ# 7113128 > > http://i.am/JohnCatral > > Registered Linux User #183190 > >
Re: [newbie] kppp connection
Mike Koceja wrote: Hi Mike, I'm not sure this is the correct solution, but it worked for me. > Expect ~-- > PPP session from (206.191.213.41) to 206.191.213.97 > beginning~}#@!}!}!}}4}"..continues on... ^ ^^^ Your box is expecting "~~~" and is only getting "~". Changing the expect string to "~" may work for you, it didn't for me. What I had to do, was find a pattern in the garbage sent, and set my expect string to that. In your case it looks like the pattern is "}4}", in my case it was "}9}". HTH Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] No CDROM music?
Hmmm...I just tried the same thing and it didn't work for me. I don't get it. I've been trying to get this to work for weeks and it just won't! how come? -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote: > > > Hello! I just tried "cdplay" and it worked! WOW! What a weird > thing. After typing"cdplay" on the command prompt, I was able to hear the > cd. I opened up KSCD from KDE and now it reads the audio cd. I can even > move forward or back. Anyone know what was the problem? Can you > recommend a Great CD player? Possible mp3/cdplayer? > > Thanks! > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Paul wrote: > > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Catral wrote: > > > > >Hi! I just did a clean install on a Mandrake 7.1. My soudns works with > > >MP3 but I cant play any music from a cdrom. The CD is not a CD-r/CD-RW > > >but an original CD. How come I cant play music. The CD player doesnt > > >respond to anything. Its like theres no CD in the CDROM. Any ideas? > > > > Has it ever worked with audio-cd's? Is there an audio cable from the CD > > player to the soundcard? Can you get any reaction when you run > > "cdplay" from a commandline? As root? > > > > Paul > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Gnome Xwindows
I recently experimented with Genome. The open applications should be in the taskbar at the bottom, on the right side. I had problems with the screen saver too. No matter which one I choose of Genome's, it will only run the 'Random' one. Only way I could run the one I wanted was to use the preview button within 'Settings' for that screen saver. It was especially frustrating because Genome has much better screen savers! At 07:04 PM 7/16/00 +0300, you wrote: >I'm using xwindows Gnome, is extraordinary, but I have some big >problems: > > 1:- when I Minimize some windows, I never find it, and I can't >restore it, >where is a windows ??? > > 2:- The screen saver of gnome is not work, only if I put screen >saver of >kde I have it. Why > >-- >._/_/_/_/.._/. _/._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/ _/.._/._/_/_/_/.. >_/..._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/.._/_/.._/._/... >..._/..._/_/.._/._/._/_/_/_/..._/..._/_/_/_/..._/..._/.._/._/ >.._/.._/.._/._/._/..._/..._/.._/_/._/..._/._/. >_/_/_/_/.._/_/_/_/._/_/_/_/.._/..._/.._/._/_/..._/_/_/_/.. >..Gustavo >Halperin... >..Paradigm >Geophysical..\\\Y///. >[EMAIL PROTECTED]\\ ^ ^ // >..972-9-9709318..(/ @ @ >\).. >-oOOo-(_)-oOOo- >_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ >_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ >_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
I tootally agree! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Glasscock wrote: > Fran Parker wrote: > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > page, not the top. > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > original, again because of the context. > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a reply > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the message, > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > Bambi > >
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
I think he's been coding a Weee bit too long. He needs to unplug for a bit and purge the BAd caffine with some good ole fashion Water! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: > On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 10:11:53AM -0400, walt wrote: > > is this a linux list or what?..stop the crap, it is spam > > This is basically a newbie list. Yes, it is a Mandrake Newbie list, > but because most Linux Newbies are also 'Net newbies this makes every > Linux Newbie list/group automatically a 'net newbie list/group. > > What do you mean by "it is spam"? > > Alexander Skwar >
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
NO! Please don't kill the ...THREAD! It deserves to live just as any other thread! N!!! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Ed Tharp wrote: > SPAM??? I do not think so, Crap, Maybe, good advice to very new computer and > e-mail users ,,, sure a thread with a need to die,, YES so don't reply > anymore, and soon death will come for this thread goodbye cruel thread > Ed > - Original Message - > From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 10:11 AM > Subject: RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > is this a linux list or what?..stop the crap, it is spam > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > > Behalf Of John Glasscock > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:44 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > > > > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > > > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > > > page, not the top. > > > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > > > original, again because of the context. > > > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a > reply > > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the > message, > > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > > > Bambi > > > > > > -- > > > John Glasscock > > > Administrator & Programmer > > > EtherDog MultiMedia > > > 3821 N Sugar Lane > > > Bloomington, IN 47404 > > > tel:+1.812.876.5233 > > > fax:+1.508.256.2413 > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Registered Linux User# 183536 > > > on Registered Linux Box# 81201 > > > > > > "Save the world, eschew Microsoft." > > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
Huh? What are you talking about? This IS a list and not SPAM. As a matter of fact I haven't seen "any" SPAM on this list and I"ve been getting mail from here for the past month. My hat goes off the owner of this list for his ability to filter so well. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, walt wrote: > is this a linux list or what?..stop the crap, it is spam > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of John Glasscock > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:44 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP > > > > > > Fran Parker wrote: > > > > > It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The > > original is there to give reference to the new comments and the > > discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the > > important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a > > page, not the top. > > > > However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or > > discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the > > original, again because of the context. > > > > Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that > > > > replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a reply > > > > you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the message, > > > > and not the whole message! > > > > > > > > > Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put > > > my comments at the beginning...my thinking > > > was that it makes it easier to view the > > > responses on an existing thread. I didn't > > > realize it should go at the end. Guess I > > > will need to change how I respond. > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. > > > > > > Bambi > > > > -- > > John Glasscock > > Administrator & Programmer > > EtherDog MultiMedia > > 3821 N Sugar Lane > > Bloomington, IN 47404 > > tel:+1.812.876.5233 > > fax:+1.508.256.2413 > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Registered Linux User# 183536 > > on Registered Linux Box# 81201 > > > > "Save the world, eschew Microsoft." > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] How do I get IMWHEEL to start every time I boot intoLinux?
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 02:07:07PM +0930, Ian McLeod wrote: > And do you know where I can get Gnome themes? Where (almost) all the other themes are at: http://www.themes.org. But there aren't any GNOME themes at all. GNOME is using GTK, so one point would be gtk.t.o. And because GNOME doesn't have a window manager of its own, another point to lookat is http://.themes.org, so for sawfish that would be http://sawfish.themes.org, or for Enlightenment http://e.themes.org or whatever wm you use. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191