Re: [[newbie] Star Office Network Install]
Rick, so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin /net that should do the trick. Brent "Rick Bonczek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I downloaded the StarOffice 5.2 from Sun, the download was named > "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". When I executed this, the installation was a > local installation. I have several users of the workstation. The > StarOffice instructions were to run "Setup /net" from the CD-Rom for a > network installation, then install from there for each user. According to > this method, each user should add only 2 megs. > > My problem, is I have one executable only, and do not have "Setup /net" in > my download. > > Thanks for any help, sorry if this question is too simple. > > Rick Bonczek > Systems Administrator > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
[newbie] Re: [newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
To clear things up, and hopefully make this thread go away: The Linux-Mandrake Spanish Website does offer similar multi-linugal suport lists as the English website. However, the options are: English, English-Summarised, French, and Italian. If a native Spanish speaking individual chooses to write to an english speaking board there may be a good reason for it: ie. English speakers on the list may be from America, and have more exposure to Linux, and benefit from better availability and the lower overall cost of computers; May popluate the message boards more heavily than foreign language boards, and therefore offer better opportunity for response; May speak a language that, although foreign, is better understood than the others; etcetera, etcetera, blah blah blah. Frankly, I'm getting tired of people and their bloated sense of self-importance on this list, and have made up my mind that in a week, if bashing and flaming doesn't all settle down, I'm leaving. I appologise to those with whom I have a good rapport, and to whom I have been able to provide assistance, but the fact is that there should be absolutley no need to instruct new list members in methods of acceptable conduct. For those who appreciate my help, if I do in fact leave you may continue to write me off-list. But as things has been going, there is simply not much here to keep me anymore. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Kathleen Dickason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You're right. Perhaps he can understand English but not compose in it? I'd > be willing to be that he posted to the lists in the languages he can > understand, but wrote in his primary language. I guess that's spamming, but > I have lots of empathy for newbies desperate for information. :/ > > I'm curious: is it against the rules for someone to post a request in a > language other than the list language, looking for an answer in the list > language? > > Kathleen > > "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: > > > The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you > > select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not > > see a Spanish one. > > > > I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail > > that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then > > why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then > > there is an Italian version of this list... > > > > For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. > > > > It actually says (loosely translated): > > = > > Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which > > Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in > > graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the > > Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not > > possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. > > Thank you very much. > > Fernando Vasconcelos. > > My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > PS: I can understand English and Italian > > == > > > > Regards, > > Ozz. > > > > > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, > > IIRC... > > > > > > > what the heck > > > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > > advertisements! > > __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] Xconfig help
haha, I can remember when I tried installing Linux. I always get the big letters going across my screen. and the menu button filled half my monitor. Never forget that. I finally got that resolved after turning the PNP in my bios setup off. after that, I never had the problem again. Rob - Original Message - From: "john bodanske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Xconfig help > Did you try XFdrake? > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Xconfig help > > > > Dear Anyone, I crashed my linux and windows a few weeks ago. Had a local > > linux friend/expert help me to to reinstall linux-mandrake 7.0. Xwindows > did > > not configure automatically so he helped me do it manually. We got a huge > KDE > > screen and I do not know how to fix it. The font and graphics are huge and > > the mouse does not work . He is not available to help me now. I checked as > > much documentation and mail archives as possible I think. I have a generic > S3 > > Virge card with 2048 memory and a high frequency SVGA monitor. What can I > do > > to fix it? I tried XF86Setup and that did not get me anywhere. I am a > newbie > > so please explain every detail. Thank you very much. Marcia > > > > >
[newbie] MDK 7.2 BETA(2) now released
Beta number 2 had just released today. visit the mandrake for information www.mandrake.com Rob
[newbie] ALSA
Hello newbie, Ok, I found these great music apps and found out that for most of them I need to install ALSA. I installed all the ALSA packages that came with 7.1 and read the howto and either I'm missing something or it was not complete. Nonetheless I lost the ability to use oss and also still isn't working. So i guess what I'm asking for is a down and dirty what steps to go through to get ALSA working. Specs. mandrake 7.1 Dev. soundblaster 64 gold 128 ram pII 400 Thanks -- Best regards, boynblack mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] remove from the list
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:19:26 -0500,Rob wrote: > >If there is another way than this to remove myself from this list can >someone please let me know. Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:44:37 We on this list cannot unzubscribe you. To unzubscribe <-(spell like this except replace z with an s) Return to the page from which you signed up, and follow the instructions, just use the link below. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 or you can send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unzubscribe newbie (replace z with an s) in the subject line
Re: [newbie] Xconfig help
I did not try XFdrake. Can one use it at the Lilo command prompt? How do I run XFdrake? I did go through the xconfigurator again and got my mouse to work now, however the screen, graphics, and icons are still huge and it would be hard to see what is going on unless I can do it from a terminal window. Any help will be greatly appreciated.Thank you very much for your help. Marcia
Re: [newbie] network card detected....can't use internet
How did you configure your interface? Linuxconf? DrakConf? Kppp? Netscape is complaining because you have a DNS resolution problem. This can either be because you have you DNS configured incorrectly, or your network is configured incorrectly. Got to terminal, and type: ping 206.132.41.202 [enter] if you get the following, it is only a DNS problem: 64 bytes from 206.132.41.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=235 time=85.5 ms Hit CTRL-C to stop the packet flow. If you do not get a response, or your get the message "Network is unreachable" we have some work to do. Let me know how it goes. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Craig Zutavern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a AMD ethernet card(model 79c970) that has been detected under linux > mandrake 7.1 But i still have had no luck getting on the internet at all. > I've set up settings copying from windows for dns, host name, ip, subnet > mask, and gateway. all with no luck. > > When i try to use netscape, for example, i get two errors. > 1. Netscape is unable to locate the server "." > 2. Perhaps you have a probelem with your name server. You will need > to set the > $SOCKS_NS environment variable to point at the appropriate > name server. > > If any one could help me with this i would be greatly appreciative. Thanks > Craig Zutavern > __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
18 seconds. It just feels like a million years since everything else is so damn fast. I've got 2.1.17 kernel, duron 600 and 256M ram. Abe >= Original Message From Patti Wavinak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >I hate to disappoint you or maybe I am just lucky -- I have Star Office >5.2 in Linux with 2.2.16 kernel a PII 450 processor and 256M of memory. I >just timed how long it took to bring it up -- less than 3 seconds after I >clicked on the icon. I'll stick with Star Office but that's jmho. ;-) > >Patti >Registered Linux User #184611 > >> Original Message << > >On 9/13/00, 2:18:01 PM, Abe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >regarding RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]: > > >> your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It >crawls on >> 384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the >newspaper, >> cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! > >> hahahahahaha > > >> Abe > > > >> >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >= >> >> What in the world would one do with all that RAM? I can half >> >understand >> >> having that much processor, but on a machine that you're not using as >> >a >> >> server I can't figure what all that RAM would be good for other than >> >just >> >> sitting there and being ALOT of RAM. Poor little programs would get >> >lost >> >> in all that room! :( >> > >> >I was talking to someone a while ago who said that Star Office likes >> >250Mb RAM to run properly - it CRAWLS on less. >> > >> >NutScrape takes a fair bit too. Add VWMare to the package, with a >> >couple of clients, and a gig goes in no time #;-( >> > >> >Regards, >> >Ozz. > >> Jesus saves, >> Allah forgives, >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
stable at 900MHz, dude! I'd think about it! - Original Message - From: "Abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:07 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100] > no. maybe in a year and a half or so when this computer becomes my experiment > bed. > > > > >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > >> the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs > about > >> 160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about > >> three months researching and saving to get this machine built. > >> > >> > >> Abe > >> > >> > >> >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > = > >> >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with > >> >256M of > >> >> ram. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block > >> >for seti > >> >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be > >> >quite a > >> >> bit faster in linux. > >> > > >> >You betcha! > >> > > >> >Regards, > >> >Ozz. > >> > >> Jesus saves, > >> Allah forgives, > >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > > > > > > > > > >are u going to overclock your duron. > > Jesus saves, > Allah forgives, > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > >
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
go to www.pricewatch.com or www.shopper.com and I think you can find the pair for about us$215 - Original Message - From: "Abe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:11 PM Subject: RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100] > the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs about > 160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about > three months researching and saving to get this machine built. > > > Abe > > > >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = > >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with > >256M of > >> ram. > > > > > > > >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block > >for seti > >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be > >quite a > >> bit faster in linux. > > > >You betcha! > > > >Regards, > >Ozz. > > Jesus saves, > Allah forgives, > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > >
RE: [newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
congratulations! I remember that feeling of accomplishment well. Abe >= Original Message From Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Aaaah yes...I remember the first message I sent with Linux. Twas >almost like the first time I ... Well let's just say it was almost a >religious experience. > >-- >Mark > >** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 >** <_||_> in the making of this| >** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 > > >On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, bascule wrote: > >> feels good doesn't it? >> >> bascule >> >> > By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Carol^ >> > >> > > > >> >> Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
RE: [newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
>= Original Message From Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Aaaah yes...I remember the first message I sent with Linux. Twas >almost like the first time I ... Well let's just say it was almost a >religious experience. > >-- >Mark > >** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 >** <_||_> in the making of this| >** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 > > >On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, bascule wrote: > >> feels good doesn't it? >> >> bascule >> >> > By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Carol^ >> > >> > > > >> >> Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
[newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
Perdone mi espanol, do puedo escribir perfectemente. Aparte de la gente quien quieren insultarse, hay gente aca quien pueden ayudarse. A veces, la gente quien hablan espanol escriben aparte de la lista despues de recibir una nota, pero yo prefiero molestar la otra genta al momento quien son estupido. Yo escribi la ulitma semana sobre personas y como compartieron aca, pero nadie me escuchieron. Que me puedo hacer? Entonces, (y perdone me otra vez) yo no se mucho sobre la VIPER II Z200 de diamond, pero se puede visitar la web de SuSE Linux. Usualmente, ellos tienen muchos drivers para controller cosas que son nuevos o que no son reconocido de la installacion. Espero que se puede encontrar lo que se necesita con SuSE, o que una otra persona se puede responder con mas informacion. Pero, yo no tengo mas. :-( Buena Suerte, --Greg - Original Message - From: Fernando Vasconcelos Grupo newbie: Necesito que me informen, para saber si ustedes me podrían enviar o informarme en que web puedo bajarme los ''drivers'' para que pueda iniciar linux mandrake en modo gráfico ya el programa no reconoce mi placa de color. Esta es la VIPER II Z200 de diamond. Espero que me puedan ayudar, ya que, si no es posible no podré correr Linux en mi computadora. Muchas Gracias. Fernando Vasconcelos. Mi dirección es [EMAIL PROTECTED] PD: puedo entender ingles e italiano __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
You're right. Perhaps he can understand English but not compose in it? I'd be willing to be that he posted to the lists in the languages he can understand, but wrote in his primary language. I guess that's spamming, but I have lots of empathy for newbies desperate for information. :/ I'm curious: is it against the rules for someone to post a request in a language other than the list language, looking for an answer in the list language? Kathleen "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: > The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you > select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not > see a Spanish one. > > I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail > that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then > why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then > there is an Italian version of this list... > > For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. > > It actually says (loosely translated): > = > Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which > Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in > graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the > Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not > possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. > Thank you very much. > Fernando Vasconcelos. > My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PS: I can understand English and Italian > == > > Regards, > Ozz. > > > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, > IIRC... > > > > > what the heck > > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > advertisements!
Re: [newbie] Xconfig help
Did you try XFdrake? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Xconfig help > Dear Anyone, I crashed my linux and windows a few weeks ago. Had a local > linux friend/expert help me to to reinstall linux-mandrake 7.0. Xwindows did > not configure automatically so he helped me do it manually. We got a huge KDE > screen and I do not know how to fix it. The font and graphics are huge and > the mouse does not work . He is not available to help me now. I checked as > much documentation and mail archives as possible I think. I have a generic S3 > Virge card with 2048 memory and a high frequency SVGA monitor. What can I do > to fix it? I tried XF86Setup and that did not get me anywhere. I am a newbie > so please explain every detail. Thank you very much. Marcia >
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
I always joke that its written entirely in Java... >= Original Message From Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >What is it about Star Office that makes it so stinkin slow anyway? > >-- >Mark > >** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 >** <_||_> in the making of this| >** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 > > >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Abe wrote: > >> your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It crawls on >> 384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the newspaper, >> cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! >> >> hahahahahaha >> >> >> Abe >> >> >> >> >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> >> What in the world would one do with all that RAM? I can half >> >understand >> >> having that much processor, but on a machine that you're not using as >> >a >> >> server I can't figure what all that RAM would be good for other than >> >just >> >> sitting there and being ALOT of RAM. Poor little programs would get >> >lost >> >> in all that room! :( >> > >> >I was talking to someone a while ago who said that Star Office likes >> >250Mb RAM to run properly - it CRAWLS on less. >> > >> >NutScrape takes a fair bit too. Add VWMare to the package, with a >> >couple of clients, and a gig goes in no time #;-( >> > >> >Regards, >> >Ozz. >> >> Jesus saves, >> Allah forgives, >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. >> >> >> Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
[newbie] Apache SSL
This has been a very frustrating problem. I am running a VERY simply configured web server. I use it specifically to be able to use Neomail to check my e-mail remotely when there is no mail clients I can use. HOWEVER, caution dictates that I not use regular Apache to send my unencrypted password over the internet, because well...that seems kind of stupid to me :-) Anyway, I downloaded and installed Apache SSL. NOT mod_SSL, but Apache SSL. I generated my test certificate and fired it up. Then used Netscape to connect to the server via https. Netscape gets the certificate ok and complains that it doesn't recognize the certificate authority. After I go through the routine of accepting the certificate, NOTHING happens. The default index.html is not displayed. If I try to reconnect to the server, Netscape gives an error complaining that "the security library has run out of memory" This is very frustrating, as I have been struggling for a week trying to make this work. I have read every book and web page I can find, but STILL nothing makes it work. GRRR. There has to be something I have done wrong, or a wrong key, but it just will not work. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. If you need more details I would be glad to post them. the error_log shows only the SSL messages (no errors) and the access_log is empty. TIA, Dan
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
yes but why? My machine never crashes and its on 24/7 with extremely heavy use. I have half-life/quake3/unreal tournament marathons over here where I play on my computer while it hosts for 5-12 people. I do that twice or three times a week for 3-12 hours at a time. The machine just grins and keeps on going. How much faster is it going to be at 800mhz or even 900mhz then it is now? And how unstable will it be? Bottom line is, I don't need to over clock it to feel like I got my moneys worth. If it ain't broke it works just fins and should be left alone. Don't forget that the jackasses on the online hardware review sites like firingsquad and such not only tell you to overclock your chips but that the only thing that matters when you buy a video card is how high it scores in 3Dmark and how many fps it will put out in quake3. In other words. Hogwash. Abe >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: >> no. maybe in a year and a half or so when this computer becomes my experiment >> bed. >> >> >u can always unclock your duron. i would overclock it if i was >u. with the motherboard u have i believe it is great for overclocking. > > > > >> >> >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = >> >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: >> >> the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs >> about >> >> 160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about >> >> three months researching and saving to get this machine built. >> >> >> >> >> >> Abe >> >> >> >> >> >> >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> = >> >> >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with >> >> >256M of >> >> >> ram. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block >> >> >for seti >> >> >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be >> >> >quite a >> >> >> bit faster in linux. >> >> > >> >> >You betcha! >> >> > >> >> >Regards, >> >> >Ozz. >> >> >> >> Jesus saves, >> >> Allah forgives, >> >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >are u going to overclock your duron. >> >> Jesus saves, >> Allah forgives, >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
[newbie] Star Office Network Install
When I downloaded the StarOffice 5.2 from Sun, the download was named "so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin". When I executed this, the installation was a local installation. I have several users of the workstation. The StarOffice instructions were to run "Setup /net" from the CD-Rom for a network installation, then install from there for each user. According to this method, each user should add only 2 megs. My problem, is I have one executable only, and do not have "Setup /net" in my download. Thanks for any help, sorry if this question is too simple. Rick Bonczek Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
*grin* They say you never forget your first time... Mark Weaver wrote: > Aaaah yes...I remember the first message I sent with Linux. Twas > almost like the first time I ... Well let's just say it was almost a > religious experience. > > -- > Mark > > ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 > ** <_||_> in the making of this | > ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 > > > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, bascule wrote: > > > feels good doesn't it? > > > > bascule > > > > > By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Carol^ > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
I make them diskless terminals, and share internet. Some day I' going to open 25 internet cafes with about $5 in equipment.:) - Original Message - From: "Paul R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100] > patrick wrote: > > > On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > > This is true about overclocking destroying hardware. Some chips can't even > > > run stably at their intended clockspeed. Intel's PIII 1.3GHz had so many > > > bloody problems they finally concluded the only way to get it to run cool > > > enough as well as stably was to UNDER-clock itI think they eventually > > > got it running nice at about 800Mhz. > > > > > > Lonny Selinger > > > > the worst overclocking can do is possibly limit the life of your > > overclocked parts. lets see i have a athlon 700 clocked to > > 805. my memory is set to 153. that means that my memory > > and processor wont last the 10 years its suppposed to > > maybe only 5. can u imagine where amd and linux will > > be in 5 years. i think i will using a hammer at 4.5 > > gig. with some kind of new memory that has no latency at all. > > > > :) > > > > maybe we'll be accessory our operating systems with our > > minds after all > > Not to get off topic here, but what do you guys do/plan to do with old > parts/components/systems when you're done with them? Charity, auction, trash, > or assimilate? > > Paul R > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >
[newbie] network card detected....can't use internet
I have a AMD ethernet card(model 79c970) that has been detected under linux mandrake 7.1 But i still have had no luck getting on the internet at all. I've set up settings copying from windows for dns, host name, ip, subnet mask, and gateway. all with no luck. When i try to use netscape, for example, i get two errors. 1. Netscape is unable to locate the server "." 2. Perhaps you have a probelem with your name server. You will need to set the $SOCKS_NS environment variable to point at the appropriate name server. If any one could help me with this i would be greatly appreciative. Thanks Craig Zutavern
Re: [newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
Sounds like spanish to me and "solicitar informacion" is loosely "asking for information" no need to flame the guy. Some english speaking people can also speak spanish. I thought the list was to help fellow penguinistas. If I'm wrong let me know and I will unsubscibe from the list. Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > either way i dont speak italian and i presumed based on solicitar in the > subject but you sould be right that word is used else where > > In a message dated 13-Sep-00 21:05:02 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the > Viper II to work in 7.1 >> -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] Newbie:Lost partition table - grub - lmk7.1
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Alan Smith wrote: > How do I copy to floppy the boot sector of the HD and boot from the > floppy as if it was the HD if I loose partition table again, or doesn't > life work that way. be in root, and at the prompt in a terminal, enter: cd /boot/grub dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1 dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=1 that ought do it for you... frank
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
Seti@home its a distributed computing thing. You go to http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ and download a utility that runs on your computer when you are not using it. What it does is crunch the data that the SETI program has collected for signs of intelligent life (organized signals). Its a very popular and very cool thing. I've been doing it for about a year now and I've got about 72 blocks of data analyzed on my computers. You can run it on every major OS. Check it out its neato. Abe >= Original Message From Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Abe...what's this thing you do with seti? It sounds really interesting. > >-- >Mark > >** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 >** <_||_> in the making of this| >** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 > > >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Abe wrote: > >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with 256M of >> ram. >> >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block for seti >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be quite a >> bit faster in linux. >> >> >> >> abe >> >> >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> >> you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box >> >with you >> >> where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use >> >it. >> >> That's a definately worth it trade off. >> > >> >How long does it take you to boot StarOffice? I can go make a coffee >> >while it loads on mine (seriously!). >> > >> >It is actually quicker for me to shut down X, reboot into Windoze and >> >load Office97 than it is to load StarOffice from within X. >> > >> >To me, that is pathetic. >> > >> >Laptop Specs: >> >AMD K6-2 @ 380Mhz. >> >64Mb RAM >> >6Gb hdd >> > >> >So as you can see, it's not a bad machine - it'll run two Seti@Home >> >clients and still process work units in under 20 hours! >> >(StarOffice performance figures are WITHOUT the likes of Seti running - >> >Seti makes it even worse!) >> > >> >Regards, >> >Ozz. >> >> Jesus saves, >> Allah forgives, >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. >> >> >> Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
In a message dated 13-Sep-00 21:12:35 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, IIRC... Kathleen >> yes that may be but if you look at the subscription form it indicates which language!
Re: [newbie] How to assign dynamic DNS??
John, It's not "your" DNS number that you have to enter, but your ISP's DNS number that you must provide in order to make a connection. This information should have been provided to you by your ISP when you first signed up with them. If it wasn't then you should give them a call and find out what the numbers are. They'll probably be more than happy to supply you with this information. There's nothing secret about these numbers so there shouldn't be a problem with this. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, John wrote: > My ISP automatically assigns my DNS. In windows I don't need to specify primary or >alternate. How do I set this up in PPP/KPPP? > > John >
[newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not see a Spanish one. I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then there is an Italian version of this list... For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. It actually says (loosely translated): = Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. Thank you very much. Fernando Vasconcelos. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: I can understand English and Italian == Regards, Ozz. > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, IIRC... > > > what the heck > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements!
Re: [newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
Aaaah yes...I remember the first message I sent with Linux. Twas almost like the first time I ... Well let's just say it was almost a religious experience. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, bascule wrote: > feels good doesn't it? > > bascule > > > By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! > > > > Cheers, > > Carol^ > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] cna't ping on local network
Dan, I used to have this problem with setting up Pmfirewall when I first started using it. You don't have it configured correctly and that's why it seems as though you're being blocked. Because in fact you are. Try reconfiguring it again. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Dan wrote: > Not a stupid question as I generally bumble thru > Linux. PM firewall wrote the rules. I answered all > the questions as the default except for the one about > getting IP from DHCP. It is set up to run on eth0. I > did have my host.deny set to All: All. I deleted > this and still no response. I set the security > setting in 7.1 as medium. There was no security > setting for 6.1. > Ironically I can ping the machine with internet over > the internet from my office. > > I've included an edited selection of rules. I can't > see where it should block the internal network. > > #!/bin/sh > # pmfirewall.rules.local > # ver.PM1 (do not remove this line) > >### BEGIN SYSTEM DEFAULTS ### > > # Block Nonroutable IP's from entering on the External > Interface > $IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d $OUTERNET > -i $OUTERIF > $IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 127.0.0.0/8 -d $OUTERNET > -i $OUTERIF > $IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 172.16.0.0/12 -d > $OUTERNET -i $OUTERIF > $IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 192.168.0.0/16 -d > $OUTERNET -i $OUTERIF > > #!/bin/sh > # pmfirewall.conf - used by pmfirewall package > IPCHAINS=/sbin/ipchains > ATBOOT=1 > CONFIG_DIR=/usr/local/pmfirewall > OUTERIF=eth0 > REMOTENET=0/0 > OUTERIP=`ifconfig $OUTERIF | grep inet | cut -d : -f 2 > | cut -d \ -f 1` > OUTERMASK=`ifconfig $OUTERIF | grep Mas | cut -d : -f > 4` > OUTERNET=$OUTERIP/$OUTERMASK > > EXAMPLES ### > > > ### ALLOWED NETWORKS > # Add in any rules to specifically allow connections > from hosts/nets that > # would otherwise be blocked. > #$IPCHAINS -A input -s [trusted host/net] -d $OUTERNET > -j ACCEPT > > ### BLOCKED NETWORKS > # Add in any rules to specifically block connections > from hosts/nets that > # have been known to cause problems. These packets are > logged. > #$IPCHAINS -A input -s [banned host/net] -d $OUTERNET > -j DENY -l > > ### BLOCK ICMP ATTACKS > # > #$IPCHAINS -A input -b -i $OUTERIF -p icmp -s > [host/net] -d $OUTERNET -j DENY -l > > > --- Greg Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Um, have you set these ipchains rules yourself? Or, > > is some script setting > > them for you? Did you know that you have ipchains > > rules set in the first > > place? (Stupid question, I know, but it doesn't hurt > > to ask). > > > > You may want to check to make sure your internal IPs > > do not exists in > > hosts.deny. > > > > Let me know what secuirty level you installed MDK > > with. > > > > Check to make sure that your ipchains rules do not > > DENY the 192.168.0.0 > > subnet for the internal network. > > > > For some reason your machine is set to drop packets > > on port 8, or it may be > > set to drop everything from non-routable subnets > > (10.0.0.0, 176, 127.0.0.0, > > 172.16.0.0, 192.168.0.0) on all interfaces--I don't > > know, and can't tell > > from here without more info. > > > > I'll have to think on this one for now...it's late > > and I have to wake up in > > four hours for work... > > > > --Greg > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > I forgot to include that. i think I did that > > already: > > > > > > This is for the host.allow file for 196.168.0.2: > > > > > > # > > > # hosts.allow This file describes the names of > > the > > > hosts which are > > > # allowed to use the local INET > > > services, as decided > > > # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. > > > # > > > ALL: 127. > > > All: 192.168.0.1 > > > > > > This is the host.allow for 196.168.0.1: > > > > > > # > > > # hosts.allow This file describes the names of > > the > > > hosts which are > > > # allowed to use the local INET > > > services, as decided > > > # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. > > > # > > > # > > > All: 127 > > > All: 192.168.0.2 > > > > > > It still doesn't work. > > > > > > --- Greg Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You obvoiusly have to add each machine's IP > > address > > > > to the other mashine's > > > > /etc/host.allow file. You can either do this by > > > > simply typing the IP > > > > address, or as foolws: > > > > > > > > ALL:192.168.0.x > > > > > > > > where 'x' is the other machines number on the > > > > subnet. > > > > > > > > --Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
What is it about Star Office that makes it so stinkin slow anyway? -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Abe wrote: > your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It crawls on > 384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the newspaper, > cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! > > hahahahahaha > > > Abe > > > > >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = > >> What in the world would one do with all that RAM? I can half > >understand > >> having that much processor, but on a machine that you're not using as > >a > >> server I can't figure what all that RAM would be good for other than > >just > >> sitting there and being ALOT of RAM. Poor little programs would get > >lost > >> in all that room! :( > > > >I was talking to someone a while ago who said that Star Office likes > >250Mb RAM to run properly - it CRAWLS on less. > > > >NutScrape takes a fair bit too. Add VWMare to the package, with a > >couple of clients, and a gig goes in no time #;-( > > > >Regards, > >Ozz. > > Jesus saves, > Allah forgives, > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > > >
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
Abe...what's this thing you do with seti? It sounds really interesting. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Abe wrote: > it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with 256M of > ram. > > It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block for seti > but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be quite a > bit faster in linux. > > > > abe > > >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = > >> you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box > >with you > >> where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use > >it. > >> That's a definately worth it trade off. > > > >How long does it take you to boot StarOffice? I can go make a coffee > >while it loads on mine (seriously!). > > > >It is actually quicker for me to shut down X, reboot into Windoze and > >load Office97 than it is to load StarOffice from within X. > > > >To me, that is pathetic. > > > >Laptop Specs: > >AMD K6-2 @ 380Mhz. > >64Mb RAM > >6Gb hdd > > > >So as you can see, it's not a bad machine - it'll run two Seti@Home > >clients and still process work units in under 20 hours! > >(StarOffice performance figures are WITHOUT the likes of Seti running - > >Seti makes it even worse!) > > > >Regards, > >Ozz. > > Jesus saves, > Allah forgives, > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > > >
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RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > no. maybe in a year and a half or so when this computer becomes my experiment > bed. > > u can always unclock your duron. i would overclock it if i was u. with the motherboard u have i believe it is great for overclocking. > > >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > >> the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs > about > >> 160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about > >> three months researching and saving to get this machine built. > >> > >> > >> Abe > >> > >> > >> >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > = > >> >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with > >> >256M of > >> >> ram. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block > >> >for seti > >> >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be > >> >quite a > >> >> bit faster in linux. > >> > > >> >You betcha! > >> > > >> >Regards, > >> >Ozz. > >> > >> Jesus saves, > >> Allah forgives, > >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > > > > > > > > > >are u going to overclock your duron. > > Jesus saves, > Allah forgives, > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
[newbie] On board sound
I recently installed Linux 7.1 on my sytem Athlon 600 mHz Asus K7M motherboard with integrated Audio Via Tech IVT82 C686 Appolo Super AC97 Audio 64 mg Ram 3dfx Voodoo3 The system loaded fine and work well except I can't get the audio to work At system boot while loading the sound module, the following message is generated: (VIA 82CXXX) /lib/modules/2.2.15.4MDK/Misc/ISB.0: Init module Device or resource is busy. Any ideas? Thanks GT
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
I hate to disappoint you or maybe I am just lucky -- I have Star Office 5.2 in Linux with 2.2.16 kernel a PII 450 processor and 256M of memory. I just timed how long it took to bring it up -- less than 3 seconds after I clicked on the icon. I'll stick with Star Office but that's jmho. ;-) Patti Registered Linux User #184611 >> Original Message << On 9/13/00, 2:18:01 PM, Abe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]: > your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It crawls on > 384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the newspaper, > cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! > hahahahahaha > Abe > >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = > >> What in the world would one do with all that RAM? I can half > >understand > >> having that much processor, but on a machine that you're not using as > >a > >> server I can't figure what all that RAM would be good for other than > >just > >> sitting there and being ALOT of RAM. Poor little programs would get > >lost > >> in all that room! :( > > > >I was talking to someone a while ago who said that Star Office likes > >250Mb RAM to run properly - it CRAWLS on less. > > > >NutScrape takes a fair bit too. Add VWMare to the package, with a > >couple of clients, and a gig goes in no time #;-( > > > >Regards, > >Ozz. > Jesus saves, > Allah forgives, > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the > Viper II to work in 7.1? > > > dwyatt > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Solicitar información > > > > what the heck > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > advertisements! > > welcome in everybody. if enough people enter this newsgroup that dont speak english, i would think that mandrake would see to it that there are other newbie places for them. inclusion if far better than exclusion
[newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
Si usted puede entender inglés entonces porqué no POSTE en inglés - esto es una lista inglesa. Hay versiones de esta lista en otros lenguajes - cheque el website de Mandrake. Respeto, Ozz. (If you can understand English then why not POST in English - this is an English list. There are versions of this list in other languages - check the Mandrake website.) > Grupo newbie: Necesito que me informen, para saber si ustedes me > podrían enviar o informarme en que web puedo bajarme los > ''drivers'' para que pueda iniciar linux mandrake en modo gráfico > ya el programa no reconoce mi placa de color. Esta es la VIPER II > Z200 de diamond. > Espero que me puedan ayudar, ya que, si no es posible no podré > correr Linux en mi computadora. > Muchas Gracias. Fernando Vasconcelos. > Mi dirección es [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PD: puedo entender ingles e italiano
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
no. maybe in a year and a half or so when this computer becomes my experiment bed. >= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: >> the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs about >> 160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about >> three months researching and saving to get this machine built. >> >> >> Abe >> >> >> >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with >> >256M of >> >> ram. >> > >> > >> > >> >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block >> >for seti >> >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be >> >quite a >> >> bit faster in linux. >> > >> >You betcha! >> > >> >Regards, >> >Ozz. >> >> Jesus saves, >> Allah forgives, >> Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > > > > >are u going to overclock your duron. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
either way i dont speak italian and i presumed based on solicitar in the subject but you sould be right that word is used else where In a message dated 13-Sep-00 21:05:02 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the Viper II to work in 7.1 >>
Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, IIRC... Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what the heck > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements!
[newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the Viper II to work in 7.1? dwyatt - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Solicitar información > what the heck > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements! >
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs about > 160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about > three months researching and saving to get this machine built. > > > Abe > > > >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = > >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with > >256M of > >> ram. > > > > > > > >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block > >for seti > >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be > >quite a > >> bit faster in linux. > > > >You betcha! > > > >Regards, > >Ozz. > > Jesus saves, > Allah forgives, > Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. are u going to overclock your duron.
Re: [newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > > The BEST method to learn this OS is to use it and get your own understanding > > > of what you need to know. I couldn't tell you what you need to know, > > > because other than the brief 'I know windows pretty well', I don't know what > > > else you're familiar with. You might be a general user of Windows 95/98 or > > > a systems admin of a small (or even large) Windows NT domain. That means > > > you know Windows, both of them. > > > > > > I don't think that you can g wrong with most of the people's suggestions, > > > but to them I add that you need to get used to doing things a little > > > different, and mostly, use the resources here and at other mailing lists, > > > and mostly, be patient in your expectations. You will have little trials > > > and errors, because this is new to you, and you'll develop confidence after > > > you begin, but only unanswered questions before you begin. Get your feet > > > wet. Download (or order a copy of Linux like I do every time) a copy and > > > burn some CDs. You'll have fun once you get things going a little at a > > > time. Enjoy the victory(ies) of successful installs and correct > > > configurations. This isn't childs-play just yet. It still requires some > > > fortitude to get it right all the time. > > > > > > The best part of all is that you are not alone in this. Write for help > > > often, even when you think that it's a simple question. Look at the > > > archives of this message list. You couldn't go wrong with these people. > > > Even though we have our minor disagreements, I am very glad that they are > > > here! They are here (as well as me) for your support. Mostly, just enjoy > > > the journey and the learning experience. It's something that not everyone > > > can do (lots of reasons), but something that everyone could do (if they > > > wanted to). > > > > > > This is only my opinion and I really have a great time with Linux. It's a > > > great tool to learn from and use. > > > > > > Steve Weltman > > > (from Los Angeles) > > > > > > this post is so well done i almost thought i was reading a very > > good book :) > > > > > > > I agree with you and also with Steve, I also enjoy learning Linux a lot. > I even think it's become some sort of an addiction. I spend absolutely all my > free time learning and trying to make Linux work properly. Sometimes it takes > me days to get things going, but when finaly you get it going it's really > great. > By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! > > Cheers, > Carol^ > first let me say welcome to the newsgroup Carol :) and working with linux can be fun. i just relnstalled my linux again and this time i used xrfree 4.0. of course it did the same thing it has always done and that is when i set my resolution picking a generic monitor with my ge force card. i then cant change the resolution. no big deal, but this surely will be fixed in mandrake 7.2. i use my computer for newsgroup and news and very importtant to me is to play my cd's. i think linux sounds better than windoz. this may sound wierd but it does so im pretty happy. cheers > > > >
Re: [newbie] Canon BJC-6000
I checked on that. Using the BJC-610 drivers means getting 360x360 resolution. Hardly ideal for a printer capable of 1440x720. I'm suddenly missing my BJC-4200, but not it's tendancy to eat the blue before other colors. Patti Wavinak wrote: > > We have 2 Canon BJC-6000 and LM 7.1 automatically found it on setup. It > uses BJC-610 and up and postscript!! It works quite nicely I might add > :-) > > Don't be TOO hard on Canon -- all three of our computers use some sort of > Canon printer (even an old BJC-620) ;-) > > Patti > Registered Linux User #184611 > >> Original Message << > > On 9/12/00, 9:39:16 PM, Digital Wokan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding > [newbie] Canon BJC-6000: > > > Just got one. Set your flamethrowers on high because I didn't look > > until afterward to see if Canon supported Linux. I know that the 600 > > and the 4000 series printers were supported. Anyone out there running a > > BJC-6000, or am I going to have to hook this thing up to a winblows box > > and print to it whenever it isn't busy crashing? > > > P.S.: Any Canon people out there reading this, please direct your > > flamethrowers at your marketing department. I'm sure your techs are > > smart enough to create the drivers, but marketing hasn't told management > > there's profit in Linux yet it seems. > > -- > > Digital Wokan > > Tribal mage of the electronics age > > Guerilla Linux Warrior -- Digital Wokan Tribal mage of the electronics age Guerilla Linux Warrior
Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
what the heck buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements!
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
the duron 600s are going for about 75 USD right now. The Asus A7v runs about 160. fairly affordable as far as brand new hardware goes. I spent about three months researching and saving to get this machine built. Abe >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with >256M of >> ram. > > > >> It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block >for seti >> but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be >quite a >> bit faster in linux. > >You betcha! > >Regards, >Ozz. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
[newbie] Solicitar información
Grupo newbie: Necesito que me informen, para saber si ustedes me podrían enviar o informarme en que web puedo bajarme los ''drivers'' para que pueda iniciar linux mandrake en modo gráfico ya el programa no reconoce mi placa de color. Esta es la VIPER II Z200 de diamond. Espero que me puedan ayudar, ya que, si no es posible no podré correr Linux en mi computadora. Muchas Gracias. Fernando Vasconcelos. Mi dirección es [EMAIL PROTECTED] PD: puedo entender ingles e italiano
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
> it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with 256M of > ram. > It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block for seti > but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be quite a > bit faster in linux. You betcha! Regards, Ozz.
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
it actually takes about a minute. I've got a duron 600 machine with 256M of ram. It takes my machine 23 hours and 19 minutes to process a data block for seti but I only run seti in windows at the moment. Presumably it will be quite a bit faster in linux. abe >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box >with you >> where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use >it. >> That's a definately worth it trade off. > >How long does it take you to boot StarOffice? I can go make a coffee >while it loads on mine (seriously!). > >It is actually quicker for me to shut down X, reboot into Windoze and >load Office97 than it is to load StarOffice from within X. > >To me, that is pathetic. > >Laptop Specs: >AMD K6-2 @ 380Mhz. >64Mb RAM >6Gb hdd > >So as you can see, it's not a bad machine - it'll run two Seti@Home >clients and still process work units in under 20 hours! >(StarOffice performance figures are WITHOUT the likes of Seti running - >Seti makes it even worse!) > >Regards, >Ozz. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
I am using 5.2. It does seem a bit faster in windows though. weird. Abe >= Original Message From "Mike & Tracy Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Yes, I've experienced that, but it does seem a lot better in version 5.2. >It's funny though, I've used the windows version and it seems to work just >fine - go figure > >Mike > > >>your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. >>It crawls on >>384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read >>the newspaper, >>cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! >> >>hahahahahaha >> >> >>Abe Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
feels good doesn't it? bascule > By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! > > Cheers, > Carol^ > > > >
[newbie] How to assign dynamic DNS??
My ISP automatically assigns my DNS. In windows I don't need to specify primary or alternate. How do I set this up in PPP/KPPP? John
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
Yes, I've experienced that, but it does seem a lot better in version 5.2. It's funny though, I've used the windows version and it seems to work just fine - go figure Mike >your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. >It crawls on >384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read >the newspaper, >cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! > >hahahahahaha > > >Abe
RE: [newbie] Yahooooooooooooooo - Party at Fred's Tonight!!!
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > Sorry John. I remembered that after I shut off my computer. > Next time, I'll be more descriptive. > > Cheers! > > Enjoy the Olympics. > > Roman > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > John Rye > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Yahooo - Party at Fred's Tonight!!! > > > > Well folks I bit the bullet. > > Decided on a marathon tonight in honour of the upcomming Olympics. > > Started at 6.00pm and downloaded Kernel-2.2.16 (1.5 hrs!!! Good line > tonight !!) > > And installed same.. all 'looked' ok, so a reboot was attempted and > dam me if it didn't work!! > >Roman on Sun 10 said install and reboot!!! > >Forgot to tell us we newbies needed to tweak the bootloader eh? > > 8.00pm downloaded Bastille-1.1.0 after reading an article at/on > http://www/enteract.com about Armouring Linux. Sat down and read the > Ipchains HOWTO yet again. > > 10.00pm - decide that a backup might be in order - so /etc and /home > copied to a spare chunk on the other HDD and beast rebooted to that > other opsys where a cd was written (That's another bullet yet to be > tasted.) > > 11.30pm Sore eyes - bored with infer-mercials - reboot to Linux > untar Bastille and go for it - answered all the questions eventually > between reading man pages and hoping I got it right.. > > 00.45AM - all looks good - reboot - and hope. > > 00.47AM - I'm up and running - so attempt to get to the Net. > 01.30AM - success - line has deteriorated even more - only getting > around 1.2kbs transfer, lots of ppp timeouts - I have to deal with > that later. > > Get the mail - yup worked - answered/responded to 20-odd. > Go surfing - water is bloody cold this time of morning - try grc.com > get lots of triggers from portsentry even at 1.2kbs > > 02.30 - logout and check logs - yup I'm all happy > > What a relief it's been.. > > Now all I have to do is make suitable sacrifices to any diety we/you > care to name so that I don't stuff it all up. > > Cheers > > John geesh, u call this success :) > > -- > ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > The BEST method to learn this OS is to use it and get your own understanding > > of what you need to know. I couldn't tell you what you need to know, > > because other than the brief 'I know windows pretty well', I don't know what > > else you're familiar with. You might be a general user of Windows 95/98 or > > a systems admin of a small (or even large) Windows NT domain. That means > > you know Windows, both of them. > > > > I don't think that you can g wrong with most of the people's suggestions, > > but to them I add that you need to get used to doing things a little > > different, and mostly, use the resources here and at other mailing lists, > > and mostly, be patient in your expectations. You will have little trials > > and errors, because this is new to you, and you'll develop confidence after > > you begin, but only unanswered questions before you begin. Get your feet > > wet. Download (or order a copy of Linux like I do every time) a copy and > > burn some CDs. You'll have fun once you get things going a little at a > > time. Enjoy the victory(ies) of successful installs and correct > > configurations. This isn't childs-play just yet. It still requires some > > fortitude to get it right all the time. > > > > The best part of all is that you are not alone in this. Write for help > > often, even when you think that it's a simple question. Look at the > > archives of this message list. You couldn't go wrong with these people. > > Even though we have our minor disagreements, I am very glad that they are > > here! They are here (as well as me) for your support. Mostly, just enjoy > > the journey and the learning experience. It's something that not everyone > > can do (lots of reasons), but something that everyone could do (if they > > wanted to). > > > > This is only my opinion and I really have a great time with Linux. It's a > > great tool to learn from and use. > > > > Steve Weltman > > (from Los Angeles) > > > this post is so well done i almost thought i was reading a very > good book :) > > > I agree with you and also with Steve, I also enjoy learning Linux a lot. I even think it's become some sort of an addiction. I spend absolutely all my free time learning and trying to make Linux work properly. Sometimes it takes me days to get things going, but when finaly you get it going it's really great. By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! Cheers, Carol^ > >
Re: [newbie] Zip drive
David, go to " http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html " you have to do the changes in Superuser or Root mode on a console. But the directions are straight forward and as a real newbie a couple of months ago I was able to mount my Zip . The second problem I can't help you with, sorry, David O'Sullivan wrote: I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. Rgds -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] I am having problems with my modem
pardon me for jumping in, but i have an internal isa modem that is seen by windows as com3 and linux as ttyS2 and has irq5, com1/2 have irqs 3/4. this is because the modem has jumpers to select io and irq and installs as a modem attached to a new com port, i have a ps2 mouse that leave com1 disabled and my pilot hotsyncs via com2 prior to this i had a serial mouse on com1 all three serial devices operated in harmony with different irqs, in linux all i had to do was to add a line to a start up script to set the irq for the modem using setserial, apologies if this info is not relevant bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Mark, > If your mouse is on COM1 and your modem is on COM3 you do have an > interrupt conflict. Interrupt lines are a function of the motherboard (not > the operating system as I saw mentioned in another posting), and there are a > physically limited number of interrupts available on the motherboard, hence > the sharing.
Re: [newbie] cna't ping on local network
Not a stupid question as I generally bumble thru
Linux. PM firewall wrote the rules. I answered all
the questions as the default except for the one about
getting IP from DHCP. It is set up to run on eth0. I
did have my host.deny set to All: All. I deleted
this and still no response. I set the security
setting in 7.1 as medium. There was no security
setting for 6.1.
Ironically I can ping the machine with internet over
the internet from my office.
I've included an edited selection of rules. I can't
see where it should block the internal network.
#!/bin/sh
# pmfirewall.rules.local
# ver.PM1 (do not remove this line)
### BEGIN SYSTEM DEFAULTS ###
# Block Nonroutable IP's from entering on the External
Interface
$IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d $OUTERNET
-i $OUTERIF
$IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 127.0.0.0/8 -d $OUTERNET
-i $OUTERIF
$IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 172.16.0.0/12 -d
$OUTERNET -i $OUTERIF
$IPCHAINS -A input -j DENY -s 192.168.0.0/16 -d
$OUTERNET -i $OUTERIF
#!/bin/sh
# pmfirewall.conf - used by pmfirewall package
IPCHAINS=/sbin/ipchains
ATBOOT=1
CONFIG_DIR=/usr/local/pmfirewall
OUTERIF=eth0
REMOTENET=0/0
OUTERIP=`ifconfig $OUTERIF | grep inet | cut -d : -f 2
| cut -d \ -f 1`
OUTERMASK=`ifconfig $OUTERIF | grep Mas | cut -d : -f
4`
OUTERNET=$OUTERIP/$OUTERMASK
EXAMPLES ###
### ALLOWED NETWORKS
# Add in any rules to specifically allow connections
from hosts/nets that
# would otherwise be blocked.
#$IPCHAINS -A input -s [trusted host/net] -d $OUTERNET
-j ACCEPT
### BLOCKED NETWORKS
# Add in any rules to specifically block connections
from hosts/nets that
# have been known to cause problems. These packets are
logged.
#$IPCHAINS -A input -s [banned host/net] -d $OUTERNET
-j DENY -l
### BLOCK ICMP ATTACKS
#
#$IPCHAINS -A input -b -i $OUTERIF -p icmp -s
[host/net] -d $OUTERNET -j DENY -l
--- Greg Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Um, have you set these ipchains rules yourself? Or,
> is some script setting
> them for you? Did you know that you have ipchains
> rules set in the first
> place? (Stupid question, I know, but it doesn't hurt
> to ask).
>
> You may want to check to make sure your internal IPs
> do not exists in
> hosts.deny.
>
> Let me know what secuirty level you installed MDK
> with.
>
> Check to make sure that your ipchains rules do not
> DENY the 192.168.0.0
> subnet for the internal network.
>
> For some reason your machine is set to drop packets
> on port 8, or it may be
> set to drop everything from non-routable subnets
> (10.0.0.0, 176, 127.0.0.0,
> 172.16.0.0, 192.168.0.0) on all interfaces--I don't
> know, and can't tell
> from here without more info.
>
> I'll have to think on this one for now...it's late
> and I have to wake up in
> four hours for work...
>
> --Greg
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > I forgot to include that. i think I did that
> already:
> >
> > This is for the host.allow file for 196.168.0.2:
> >
> > #
> > # hosts.allow This file describes the names of
> the
> > hosts which are
> > # allowed to use the local INET
> > services, as decided
> > # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server.
> > #
> > ALL: 127.
> > All: 192.168.0.1
> >
> > This is the host.allow for 196.168.0.1:
> >
> > #
> > # hosts.allow This file describes the names of
> the
> > hosts which are
> > # allowed to use the local INET
> > services, as decided
> > # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server.
> > #
> > #
> > All: 127
> > All: 192.168.0.2
> >
> > It still doesn't work.
> >
> > --- Greg Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You obvoiusly have to add each machine's IP
> address
> > > to the other mashine's
> > > /etc/host.allow file. You can either do this by
> > > simply typing the IP
> > > address, or as foolws:
> > >
> > > ALL:192.168.0.x
> > >
> > > where 'x' is the other machines number on the
> > > subnet.
> > >
> > > --Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm having a problem connecting two machines:
> one
> > > > running Mandrake 7.1 and one running 6.1. The
> > > machine
> > > > running 7.1 has Roadrunner on eth0 with the
> IP
> > > > assigned by DHCP and this works fine. I put a
> > > second
> > > > NIC car in this machine (DFE-530TX+) and it
> seem
> > > to be
> > > > working per IF config info:
> > > >
> > > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr
> > > > 00:50:BA:40:57:43
> > > > inet addr:192.168.0.1
> > > Bcast:192.168.0.255
> > > > Mask:255.255.255.0
> > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST
> MTU:1500
> > > > Metric:1
> > > > RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0
> > > overruns:0
> > > > frame:0
> > > > TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0
> > > overruns:0
> > > > carrier:0
> > > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> > > > Interrupt:18 Base address:0xd800
> > > >
> > > > I gave the c
Re: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
> you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box with you > where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use it. > That's a definately worth it trade off. How long does it take you to boot StarOffice? I can go make a coffee while it loads on mine (seriously!). It is actually quicker for me to shut down X, reboot into Windoze and load Office97 than it is to load StarOffice from within X. To me, that is pathetic. Laptop Specs: AMD K6-2 @ 380Mhz. 64Mb RAM 6Gb hdd So as you can see, it's not a bad machine - it'll run two Seti@Home clients and still process work units in under 20 hours! (StarOffice performance figures are WITHOUT the likes of Seti running - Seti makes it even worse!) Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] Portsentry
Vic this is Charley, sorry for using your computer without asking, I forgot my password and you were not here when I got back from class. Dude, its cool man just sit back, and drink a pop, have a smoke, I looked at the config files, they look all ok _except_ the Makefile, and from the looks of that core file, that editor you are trying to write is still in beta, don't use it for serious or critical work yet, we still got to work some serious bugs out of it, dude, use Vi, you know how to use it, I seen you do it, just use Vi to edit the Makefile instead of that beta editor of yours for now, change the directories in it and test it, if it still does not work, call me on my cel phone if I'm not here when you get back and I will help you when I get home. Aiight homey?? L8R! -- Charley On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > I think portsentry should be made so that it actyually works (screw typos) > and pays attention to its config files, so that when you edit them, > it makes the changes instead of ignoring them and then lying and > saying that the configfiles are corrupt
[newbie] ICQJava
well folks, I'm trying out the ICQJava and not use the Licq anymore. I like stuff that comes with Java. This one is from the original maker from ICQ. The software is at www.ICQ.com. alsoneed the java runtime that has the classes.zip in its library. such as jdk1.1.6 which I currently have to run the HotJava Browser. the more current one doesnt have the classes.zip in its library. more like a .jar. I tried running the current java program but did not succeed. I hope I dont get hacked on this one... LOL Rob
Re: [newbie] I am having problems with my modem
Mark, If your mouse is on COM1 and your modem is on COM3 you do have an interrupt conflict. Interrupt lines are a function of the motherboard (not the operating system as I saw mentioned in another posting), and there are a physically limited number of interrupts available on the motherboard, hence the sharing. I don't know if moving the mouse to COM2 is viable or not. Usually COM1 is hard configured, i.e. whatever you plug in "here" is COM1. There is usually a COM2 preexisting to complicate matters. Your motherboard CMOS will give you the answer about whether those physical ports can be flipped or logically reassigned. I don't think that this is going to be a simple swap, but I've never needed to reassign the mouse and this is beyond my experience. If you do move the mouse, you may also have software configuration problems because the mouse is NOT on COM1. A like reason is why some programs will not operate with nonstandard soundcards. Tell us what your results are if you try. What's stopping you from using COM2 for the modem? Assuming that your modem will assign there, which it should if it is now on COM3 (but it actually may or may not), to change the modem to COM2 you may first have to eliminate the address conflicts by disabling COM2 in CMOS. Maybe the COM2 address being occupied is what was stopping the modem from assigning to COM2 in the first place (assuming the modem is not jumpered). If the modem is jumpered the jumper configuration is usually printed on the circuit card and it's just a matter of whether it will take the COM2 address space, which they usually will. Jumpering to COM2 will work in this case even if there is an address conflict, though the conflict could stop the POST requiring you to fix it immediately to boot into any o/s -- the conflict would need to be eliminated in CMOS for the modem to work in any case. Another option, if you cannot change the modem to COM2, and COM2 is not otherwise in use, might be to change the modem to COM4, which uses the same interrupt as COM2 but a different logical address. This should work "as is", but in some cases you might need to disable COM2 in CMOS. If you have a free interrupt available, and either COM2 or COM4* is already in use tying up that interrupt, you might assign the modem to COM5 and then assign the free interrupt to COM5. Once you get past the first four COM ports things get easier, though they eat additional resources (interrupts). Configure software as necessary in all cases. * in which case moving the mouse to COM2 will create another interrupt conflict, this time with COM4. Sorry, but a modem on COM3 is an unusual problem. As a former computer technician I've never seen it set up this way, presumably because of the mouse conflict issue. It is going to take a little fixing. Does the modem on COM3 work without errors in NT? Then it should in Linux. What I'm saying is that something doesn't seem right in this equasion. -Gary- I<< Mark Thurston wrote: > > I do have a serial mouse, it is connected right next to the printer and > under the keyboard. I have a PIII and the motherboard is an ABit BH6. > According to the manual, the mouse is on COM1 the keyboard is connected > using the PS/2 connection. I am dual booting Linux and WindowsNT, is there > going to be a problem if I do move the mouse to COM2? Thanks for the help. > > Mark > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] I am having problems with my modem > > > I haven't checked the latest mail, so if this has been covered already > > please pardon my duplication, but: > > Do you have a serial mouse on COM1 [the > typical > > hookup uses the 9-pin D-shell connector on the back of your computer] (or > > anything else on COM1)? If so you have an IRQ conflict. COM 1 AND COM 3 > > share the same interrupt (IRQ4), as COM2 and COM4 likewise share another > > (IRQ3). I don't know whether this is alterable in the CMOS (the > motherboard > > BIOS configuration), but the standard fix is to put the modem on COM2 so > that > > it uses a different interrupt, assuming that COM2 is available for you to > use > > and that you know how to change the modem settings. If your motherboard > is > > set up for it you could also change to a ps/2 mouse [a round connector > about > > the size of your little finger], which uses a different interrupt (IRQ > 12?) > > but the mouse may need configuration in your o/s. > > The suggestions that others have made for your problem may well (also) > be > > necessary, and they might even get your modem dialing and on-line even if > you > > do have an IRQ conflict, but if you do have an IRQ conflict modem > operation > > will not be reliable until it is c
Re: [newbie] penguin icons
I agree. Computing history is implicit in some of the configuration and learning curve issues we're having to deal with as newbies; knowing computing history helps to explain some otherwise odd and confusing things in Linux. Besides, many things, like the Xerox PARC deal, are just plain interesting. If it wasn't for the stupidity of Xerox execs we would be paying them royalty money. -Gary- In a message dated 9/12/2000 10:18:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I have to admit, there is something fascinating, as a newbie, about hearing people reminisce about the old days of UNIX/Linux and their first experiences. -paul r >>
Re: [newbie] Portsentry
Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/13/2000 09:53:42 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: [newbie] Portsentry Hrmm maybe your files _are_ corrupted I've ben using it on all my machines (configured over and over again) and have never had a problem. Have you checked their site to verify your claim? Lonny I think portsentry should be made so that it actyually works (screw typos) and pays attention to its config files, so that when you edit them, it makes the changes instead of ignoring them and then lying and saying that the configfiles are corrupt
Re: [newbie] Qmail
"Pungki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/13/2000 12:23:20 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake maling list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: [newbie] Qmail The instructions for installing qmail include detailed information on how to handle any existing installs of other email proggys ... if you check the right documentation =) do a search on www.google.com for "Life With Qmail" the author deserves a metal! Lonny Selinger I want to install qmail. Should I unisntall my sendmail first ? -Pungki
Re: [newbie] Portsentry
Why, what did you do to the config files that's making portsentry complain? I've never had a problem editing the config files in portsentry, and it's never complained about a single thing I've done. Be more specific about the problem you're experiencing and maybe we can walk through a correction. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think portsentry should be made so that it actyually works (screw typos) > and pays attention to its config files, so that when you edit them, > it makes the changes instead of ignoring them and then lying and > saying that the configfiles are corrupt > __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
your friend was exaggerating. Star office still crawls on 256M. It crawls on 384! Click on the icon, get up, get a beer, have a smoke, read the newspaper, cook some dinner, Hey! the splash screen is up on the screen! hahahahahaha Abe >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> What in the world would one do with all that RAM? I can half >understand >> having that much processor, but on a machine that you're not using as >a >> server I can't figure what all that RAM would be good for other than >just >> sitting there and being ALOT of RAM. Poor little programs would get >lost >> in all that room! :( > >I was talking to someone a while ago who said that Star Office likes >250Mb RAM to run properly - it CRAWLS on less. > >NutScrape takes a fair bit too. Add VWMare to the package, with a >couple of clients, and a gig goes in no time #;-( > >Regards, >Ozz. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
RE: [[newbie] Athlon thunderbird & ka7-100]
you have my condolences Ozz. But hey, you can take your linux box with you where ever you go! I have to sit at home in front of my desk to use it. That's a definately worth it trade off. Abe >= Original Message From "Austin L. Denyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >> Linux is fast with 128 megs. It is much faster with >> 256 and when you put 384 in it really starts to cook. >> I imagine that a 'hammer with a gig of ram would >> pretty much do everything right as the thought to do >> it first crossed your mind. >> >> Imagine a world where X and netscape don't push you >> into swap even though you've got enough ram to power a >> small third world nation. >> >> Perhaps Gnome will finially be nimblebut I am just >> dreaming now forgive me ;-) > >Pity us poor souls with 64Mb laptops... > >Regards, >Ozz. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Xconfig help
Dear Anyone, I crashed my linux and windows a few weeks ago. Had a local linux friend/expert help me to to reinstall linux-mandrake 7.0. Xwindows did not configure automatically so he helped me do it manually. We got a huge KDE screen and I do not know how to fix it. The font and graphics are huge and the mouse does not work . He is not available to help me now. I checked as much documentation and mail archives as possible I think. I have a generic S3 Virge card with 2048 memory and a high frequency SVGA monitor. What can I do to fix it? I tried XF86Setup and that did not get me anywhere. I am a newbie so please explain every detail. Thank you very much. Marcia
[newbie] Installing XFree 4.0.1
Hallo! I just don't know what packages i have to install. If trying to upgrade XFree-4.0.1*.rpm i get messages like the following: XFree86 = 3.3.6 is needed by XFree86-SVGA-3.3.6-xmdk... and a few more. And i'm not able to see any XFree86-SVGA or VGA version 4.0.1... maybe they are no longer needed? Do i have to install with --force ? Thanks! ;-) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
The BEST method to learn this OS is to use it and get your own understanding of what you need to know. I couldn't tell you what you need to know, because other than the brief 'I know windows pretty well', I don't know what else you're familiar with. You might be a general user of Windows 95/98 or a systems admin of a small (or even large) Windows NT domain. That means you know Windows, both of them. I don't think that you can g wrong with most of the people's suggestions, but to them I add that you need to get used to doing things a little different, and mostly, use the resources here and at other mailing lists, and mostly, be patient in your expectations. You will have little trials and errors, because this is new to you, and you'll develop confidence after you begin, but only unanswered questions before you begin. Get your feet wet. Download (or order a copy of Linux like I do every time) a copy and burn some CDs. You'll have fun once you get things going a little at a time. Enjoy the victory(ies) of successful installs and correct configurations. This isn't childs-play just yet. It still requires some fortitude to get it right all the time. The best part of all is that you are not alone in this. Write for help often, even when you think that it's a simple question. Look at the archives of this message list. You couldn't go wrong with these people. Even though we have our minor disagreements, I am very glad that they are here! They are here (as well as me) for your support. Mostly, just enjoy the journey and the learning experience. It's something that not everyone can do (lots of reasons), but something that everyone could do (if they wanted to). This is only my opinion and I really have a great time with Linux. It's a great tool to learn from and use. Steve Weltman (from Los Angeles) - Original Message - From: "Jason Ashman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Learning Linux? On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning > Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie > unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like > "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? > > Regards > > Gordon -- IMO, get the O'Reilly book about Linux. I hear it is indispensible. Personally I have Peter Norton's guide to Linux. I tend to steer clear of the Dummies series, as they do not really go into the specifics, just generalities. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
Re: [newbie] KDE problem
Hi! I have experienced the same problem and I found out where it came from (On my machine): Every time I ran kdesu on my users desktop, I wasn't able to change the color scheme anymore. It had to with kdesu here, but I don't know which file got locked... :( > -- > Here is an interesting one. Whenever I try to change the colour scheme of my > windows in KDE, I run into an unusual problem. The Window titlebar changes > colour, but the font always remains black. The panel changes, but the taskbar > doesn't. The file manager background changes, but in every application, the > window itself (with the exception of the titlebar, borders) remain that drab > gray colour. Every other user can customize, except for me. What do I do to > change this? This is only a minor annoyance, but I wish to resolve > it. > > Jay > "Every man dies, not every man really lives." > http://www.mrsnooky.com -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning > Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie > unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like > "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? > > Regards > > Gordon -- IMO, get the O'Reilly book about Linux. I hear it is indispensible. Personally I have Peter Norton's guide to Linux. I tend to steer clear of the Dummies series, as they do not really go into the specifics, just generalities. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
[newbie] KDE problem
-- Here is an interesting one. Whenever I try to change the colour scheme of my windows in KDE, I run into an unusual problem. The Window titlebar changes colour, but the font always remains black. The panel changes, but the taskbar doesn't. The file manager background changes, but in every application, the window itself (with the exception of the titlebar, borders) remain that drab gray colour. Every other user can customize, except for me. What do I do to change this? This is only a minor annoyance, but I wish to resolve it. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
[newbie] Zip drive
I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. Rgds
Re: [newbie] Kups 0.8-9mdk
Veit Waltemath wrote: > Joan Tur wrote: > > > Hallo! > > > > I'm trying to install the above rpm and i get the following failed > > dependencies: > > libDCOP.so.1libkdecore.so.3libkdesu.so.1libkdeui.so.3 > > libkfile.so.3libksycoca.so.3 > > > > Do i have to upgrade kdelibs? I've got actually v.1.1.2-18 > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 > > Joan.Tur.pagina.de > > Club.Ibosim.pagina.de > > yep, latest from cooker. sorry forgotten, the whole kde-1.94 rpms (base libs etc) and qt2! > > > -- > Veit Waltemath [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 01896 Pulsnitz / Sa -Germany -- Veit Waltemath [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01896 Pulsnitz / Sa -Germany
Re: [newbie] Hot Java
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, you wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > did you try issueing the "./hgb3_0-linux.sfx command" ? the ./ command is to > run the script. > > > Whoops!! I must have been stupid to have followed Sun's instructions to the letter as nowhere do they specify a "./" I did think it strange but thought that they would know what they were doing!! Anway, thanks to you Rob, Hot Java is up and working well, better than it did in Windoze (Surprise, surprise!) Many thanks for your help Rob. Roger
Re: [newbie] Kups 0.8-9mdk
Joan Tur wrote: > Hallo! > > I'm trying to install the above rpm and i get the following failed > dependencies: > libDCOP.so.1libkdecore.so.3libkdesu.so.1libkdeui.so.3 > libkfile.so.3libksycoca.so.3 > > Do i have to upgrade kdelibs? I've got actually v.1.1.2-18 > > Thanks! > > -- > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 > Joan.Tur.pagina.de > Club.Ibosim.pagina.de yep, latest from cooker. -- Veit Waltemath [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01896 Pulsnitz / Sa -Germany
[newbie] Is there a 'Nix command for...
Is there a 'Nix command that will change filenames in a directory from UPPER case to all lowercase? Thanks much! PS I've got "Linux for Dummies" but this dummy couldn't find anything like that in there... ;-) -- /\ Dark>
[newbie] Kups 0.8-9mdk
Hallo! I'm trying to install the above rpm and i get the following failed dependencies: libDCOP.so.1libkdecore.so.3libkdesu.so.1libkdeui.so.3 libkfile.so.3libksycoca.so.3 Do i have to upgrade kdelibs? I've got actually v.1.1.2-18 Thanks! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
[newbie] Turbo Tax Substitute?
Does anyone know of a suitable substitute for TurboTax? I know that there's a few really good Linux based money management programs, but I don't know if they also do 'TurboTax' like functions. Advice is welcome and appreciated.. Thanks!! Steve Weltman (from LA)
Re: [newbie] Canon BJC-6000
>> P.S.: Any Canon people out there reading this, please direct your >> flamethrowers at your marketing department. I'm sure your techs are >> smart enough to create the drivers, but marketing hasn't told >management >> there's profit in Linux yet it seems. My Canon BJC-4200 Works like a charm. In B&W and Color. Postscript and all. I have no need for a flamethrower... Paul. -- The fiber of the mind weaves the fabric of reality http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Qmail
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Pungki wrote: >I want to install qmail. Should I unisntall my sendmail first ? > >-Pungki No need for that. In the instructions for installing qmail you will find that you should rename Sendmail, and create a symlink called sendmail which points to qmail. Paul -- The fiber of the mind weaves the fabric of reality http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning >Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie >unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like >"Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? "Running Linux" (by now edition 3) by O'Reilly Associates is what I prefer reading and learning from. Paul -- The fiber of the mind weaves the fabric of reality http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Mail from Cron Daemon
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, ahmad wrote: >I get some mail from cron daemon. Here's the mail : > >From : Cron Daemon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject : Cron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) run-parts /etc/cron.hourly > >Can't open /var/run/news/shlock5334 permission denied. > >And I get another mail, which tell me like that. But the file are different, >like shlock1748, 3510, and 3711. If I check those files, it doesn't exist. >Anyone can help me ? Please. The message is exactly what happens. CRON tries to execute files from the /etc/cron.hourly directory. All files in there will be executed every hour. Best to su to root and check what is in your /etc/cron.hourly directory. If you can locate the files that refer to the non-existing files, better delete those from /etc/cron.hourly Paul -- The fiber of the mind weaves the fabric of reality http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Adding Xfce to kdm chooser
Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > Clif Caldwell wrote: > > > > I obtained the MacMillan distro of Man.7.1 and for some reason it did not have > > Xfce. Well I d/l'ed it but now I want to add it to the kdm window manager > > chooser menu when I log on. Despite looking at etc/X11 and all, I cannot figure > > out where to change things. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Clif Caldwell > > ccaldwell @easley.net > > Clifthere are a couple of issues here. First, if you > bought the distro called 'complete', then the reason you > didn't get xfce is because it's on the 2nd GPL CD (called the > extension CD) and Macmillan's 'complete' package doesn't > include that CD. > > The xfce rpm is downloadable from any mirror site (it's in the > extension part of the tree, rpms2 I believe). If it was > installed during the installation of 7.1 then it gets put in > the kdm sessions menu. If you do an upgrade install and have > the extension CD then you can pick it out and have it > installed by the installation program. > > Anyway, you still should be able to start the one you > downloaded from a console: > > startxfce -- :1 > > Have you tried adding it to kdm in kcontrol (the sessions > tab)? > > Alan ClifI have some extra disc space so I did a new install with both the installation and extension CD's. I did an expert/developer install and it had enough space to install 100% of the files, yet Xfce did not get installed. But an entry for Xfce was included on the kdm menu and after I installed the Xfce rpm from the extension CD, Xfce ran just fine from the kdm menu. Alan
Re: [newbie] -=- 7.1 Install -=- corrupt files
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mr. Jeffrey Galford wrote: >I have tried 6 times now to install 7.1, even exchanged my original set of >CDs for a new 2nd set, but still no luck. BTW Both sets of disks have >different packages that are corrupt. One thing in common is, Xfree packages >on both sets are toast. Once install is finished, X loads for about 2 >seconds (start x) then I get dropped back into a black screen, with a ton of >errors =( I have not had any problems upgrading to LM7.1. If you ignore the fact that I had to rebuild the RPM database, okay... Paul -- The fiber of the mind weaves the fabric of reality http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
> This is where I disagree. There is nothing better when learning than > to have 2-3 xterms open. One holds man page lookups, the other the > actual working commandline and a thirdjust in case. It's sortof > an analog to the days when I had a commandline and a whole bunch of > manuals open on the desk :-) Erm, he can achieve the same at the console with alt-f1, alt-f2, etc. Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] remove from the list
I guess you must have missed the hundreds of other messages asking the same thing, and the thousands of responses (well, perhaps I exaggerate a bit) go back to where you subscribed (in the mailing list section on the Mandrake homepage) and follow the directions philomena At 12:19 PM 9/13/00 -0500, you wrote: >If there is another way than this to remove myself from this list can >someone please let me know. > >Thanks > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On >Behalf Of Larry Marshall >Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:56 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] Learning Linux? > > >"Daniel J. Ferris" wrote: > > > Three methods I found: > >While I would agree with your methods to some extent, I'd modify them >just a wee bit. > > > 1. Loose X windows for a little while and learn some command > > line > >This is where I disagree. There is nothing better when learning than >to have 2-3 xterms open. One holds man page lookups, the other the >actual working commandline and a thirdjust in case. It's sortof >an analog to the days when I had a commandline and a whole bunch of >manuals open on the desk :-) > > > 2. Take a class :-) > > 3. Buy lots of books and learn to use man > >A good start on the books would be Running Linux and Linux in a >Nutshell, both by O'Reilly press. Linux in a Nutshell is the best >reference around and the other one provides some good insights into >how Linux works and why. > >A fourth "method" I'd add to your list is "Don't forget everything you >know about Windows." I know that's probably heresy here but I'm >watching two Linux newbies now and if they'd just think, "What would I >do if I were in Windows?" they'd be less confused about some of the >stuff. If you view /mnt/windows as equal to C:, it's not so wierd to >have to either click on an icon to get there or cd /mnt/windows to get >there. But one of my newbies asked me what the difference between >these two were and yet he's comfortable at the DOS prompt as well as >on the Windows desktop. In short, yes, Linux does a lot of things >different from the way Windows does them (and better too) but file >handling and stuff like that is very similar. > >Hmmm...I'll add a fifth method. If you're coming from Windows and run >into a problem with Linux, ask "Do I know how this is handled in >Windows" before you start chasing your tail. Don't accept an answer >like "I just run CD Creator." Rather, using that example, when you >start trying to write to your CD-writer, ask "Do I know how CDs are >written under Windows?", "Do I know the difference between CD-RW and >CD-R writes?", "Do I know what is going happens when I answer that >question at the end of CD-Creator where it asks me whether I want the >CD-R closed or not?". If you can answer yes to these kinds of >questions under Linux, it's a simple matter of finding the analog >tools under Linux. If you can't, you need to read some about the >actual process. This "fifth method" helps send you down the right >road. > >Cheers --- Larry > > > > > Look at me, I still don't know that much even after 2 years :-) > > > > Dan > >
Re: [newbie] MS Linux
> Thank you for posting both of your responses twice. I couldn't undersand > the first time you said it, but the second time really cleared it up for me. Are you sure it was his fault? The list server has been randomly vomiting multiple copies of posts for months now... Regards, Ozz.
Re: [newbie] I am having problems with my modem
O, I didn't say that it didn't suck...I was just feeling compassion for the poor guy cause he was getting a double wammy. that's all. Aaron Lynch wrote: > > > > >O...man! that was low. Give the poor guy a break. He's having a real > >rough time and NT can be a real pain to deal with at times. :) > >-- > > And that makes it not suck because..??? > > ;>
[newbie] linux won't boot
I rebooted my machine (dual boot system) to use my win2000 partition. when I dicided to go back into my linux system it came up with the regular(lilo) boot: prompt. i hit enter and it proceeded to start the boot process Starting Linux ... and thats where it stopped. I still can load into the system threw the boot floppy but not regular. i still can use my other partion as well(threw the menu). If any one knows how I can trouble shoot or fix this please cc the group or me directly. Regards Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] MS Linux
Thank you for posting both of your responses twice. I couldn't undersand the first time you said it, but the second time really cleared it up for me. dwyatt - Original Message - From: "Eugene C. Zesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Linux > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 13-Sep-00 00:45:03 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > writes: > > > > << http://www.mslinux.com >> > > no such address! and thats a good thing > > My kill-filter is starting to twitch >
[newbie] remove from the list
If there is another way than this to remove myself from this list can someone please let me know. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Marshall Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Learning Linux? "Daniel J. Ferris" wrote: > Three methods I found: While I would agree with your methods to some extent, I'd modify them just a wee bit. > 1. Loose X windows for a little while and learn some command > line This is where I disagree. There is nothing better when learning than to have 2-3 xterms open. One holds man page lookups, the other the actual working commandline and a thirdjust in case. It's sortof an analog to the days when I had a commandline and a whole bunch of manuals open on the desk :-) > 2. Take a class :-) > 3. Buy lots of books and learn to use man A good start on the books would be Running Linux and Linux in a Nutshell, both by O'Reilly press. Linux in a Nutshell is the best reference around and the other one provides some good insights into how Linux works and why. A fourth "method" I'd add to your list is "Don't forget everything you know about Windows." I know that's probably heresy here but I'm watching two Linux newbies now and if they'd just think, "What would I do if I were in Windows?" they'd be less confused about some of the stuff. If you view /mnt/windows as equal to C:, it's not so wierd to have to either click on an icon to get there or cd /mnt/windows to get there. But one of my newbies asked me what the difference between these two were and yet he's comfortable at the DOS prompt as well as on the Windows desktop. In short, yes, Linux does a lot of things different from the way Windows does them (and better too) but file handling and stuff like that is very similar. Hmmm...I'll add a fifth method. If you're coming from Windows and run into a problem with Linux, ask "Do I know how this is handled in Windows" before you start chasing your tail. Don't accept an answer like "I just run CD Creator." Rather, using that example, when you start trying to write to your CD-writer, ask "Do I know how CDs are written under Windows?", "Do I know the difference between CD-RW and CD-R writes?", "Do I know what is going happens when I answer that question at the end of CD-Creator where it asks me whether I want the CD-R closed or not?". If you can answer yes to these kinds of questions under Linux, it's a simple matter of finding the analog tools under Linux. If you can't, you need to read some about the actual process. This "fifth method" helps send you down the right road. Cheers --- Larry > > Look at me, I still don't know that much even after 2 years :-) > > Dan
RE: [newbie] MS Linux
the joke site resides at http://www.mslinux.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eugene C. Zesch Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Linux could'nt get the link to work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > go forth and prosper...http://www.mslinux.com
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
"Daniel J. Ferris" wrote: > Three methods I found: While I would agree with your methods to some extent, I'd modify them just a wee bit. > 1. Loose X windows for a little while and learn some command > line This is where I disagree. There is nothing better when learning than to have 2-3 xterms open. One holds man page lookups, the other the actual working commandline and a thirdjust in case. It's sortof an analog to the days when I had a commandline and a whole bunch of manuals open on the desk :-) > 2. Take a class :-) > 3. Buy lots of books and learn to use man A good start on the books would be Running Linux and Linux in a Nutshell, both by O'Reilly press. Linux in a Nutshell is the best reference around and the other one provides some good insights into how Linux works and why. A fourth "method" I'd add to your list is "Don't forget everything you know about Windows." I know that's probably heresy here but I'm watching two Linux newbies now and if they'd just think, "What would I do if I were in Windows?" they'd be less confused about some of the stuff. If you view /mnt/windows as equal to C:, it's not so wierd to have to either click on an icon to get there or cd /mnt/windows to get there. But one of my newbies asked me what the difference between these two were and yet he's comfortable at the DOS prompt as well as on the Windows desktop. In short, yes, Linux does a lot of things different from the way Windows does them (and better too) but file handling and stuff like that is very similar. Hmmm...I'll add a fifth method. If you're coming from Windows and run into a problem with Linux, ask "Do I know how this is handled in Windows" before you start chasing your tail. Don't accept an answer like "I just run CD Creator." Rather, using that example, when you start trying to write to your CD-writer, ask "Do I know how CDs are written under Windows?", "Do I know the difference between CD-RW and CD-R writes?", "Do I know what is going happens when I answer that question at the end of CD-Creator where it asks me whether I want the CD-R closed or not?". If you can answer yes to these kinds of questions under Linux, it's a simple matter of finding the analog tools under Linux. If you can't, you need to read some about the actual process. This "fifth method" helps send you down the right road. Cheers --- Larry > > Look at me, I still don't know that much even after 2 years :-) > > Dan
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:00:05 +0100, Gordon wrote: >As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning >Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie >unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like >"Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? -- Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:38:35 It will take a lot of both Gordon, "read" is the key. my attempt is to get a good general overview of the system operation, and then detail on the specific problem of the day. My opinion is do not spend a lot of money on books, it is quite unnecessary as the web has just about any information you need...my problem has been knowing where to find it...but I am getting a clue about that. Make use of mandrakeusers.org and the newbie sites they are all around and linked by most of the linux sites...just find them and read...your CD has a lot of info in the howto section and man. if you have the system running already type man man.or info. -- It requires effort, but it is also fun 8-). Olly P Biloxi Mississippi "when I lay down to sleep at night, I see little images of my computer screen...they must be burned into my retina? I wonder if they make contact lenses with little screensavers?"
Re: [newbie] Learning Linux?
Gordon -- I think you may find Linux is easier to learn if you're comfortable working in DOS. If not "dive in" like I did , you can always get help online as well as from textbooks -- Good Luck! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gordon Burgess-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Newbie Linux Mandrake (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: [newbie] Learning Linux? > As a fairly competent Windows user, what is the best method of learning > Linux? Is it to just learn about performing tasks as they occur, (ie > unzipping and installing programs etc) or to go through a book like > "Linux for Dummies" for example chapter by chapter? > > Regards > > Gordon > >
