Re: [newbie] Trinux

[dwyatt]

qnx is the OS on the Netpliance I-opener


dwyatt


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Trinux


> www.qnx.com did the same thing along time ago its not that new qnx fits on
a
> 3.5 floppy it has a browser a couple games and a basic word processing
packet
> it can even hook up to the internet via modem or network, qnx however is
> working on creating a full os with even more features using this process
of
> micro programming, it however their main contributor who started the
program
> died of cancer i believe earlier this year, but he left as much info to
his
> developers as possible to continue their work,
> by the way the current demo disk available does not access your hard
drive.
> although im looking forward to future developments
>
>
> In a message dated 22-Sep-00 17:35:21 Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Hi everybody,
>
>  Have you seen this?:
>
>  http://trinux.sourceforge.net/
>
>  Trinux is a portable Linux distribution that boots from a single floppy
> disk,
>  loads it packages from a FAT/Ext2 partition, floppy disks, or HTTP/FTP
>  servers, and runs entirely in RAM.
>   >>
>

Re: [newbie] ATI Rage 128

[mrweb]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 22-Sep-00 01:16:05 Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << i have a ATI Rage 128 Xpert 128 vid card but its not supported by LM 6.5
> what
>  can i download for it so its supported  and install it
>  -Rob >>
> upgrade your xwindows client is my best thought on the subject


Here is a link that may be of some assistance.

http://support.atitech.ca/drivers/drivers.html

ahh, yes and this one too!

http://support.atitech.ca/faq/linux.html

mrweb

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Re: [newbie] Novice Help

[Oliver L . Plaine Jr .]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:55:11 -0500, Bob wrote:
clip of queries:
>Questions are:
>1.  What are my alternatives?
>2.  Can I load Linux on a non-boot drive and then use Bios
>configuration when I want to use Linux.
>3.  Is there any quick way to move programs out of the boot
>drive without causing havoc?
>4.  Is the world really round?
---
Fri, 22 Sep 2000  23:47:37

Hello Bob, Q1. if you are able to obtain another physical drive, you
could install linux there, booting with a floppy or changing bios
calls, In my opinion is too much work, it is far easier to install
LILO on your primary drive MBR (where C boots now) and have it boot
your second physical drive (HDb). that would give you good space for
linux.

You could clean one of your dos partitions and put linux
there, but 2G is not really enough room for a large modern install and
still have room to play with large programs or save a lot of data.

Q2..awl gee, I answered this in 1 above.

Q3. I assume you mean programs that are now installed in M$
windows?...you would have to uninstall them first, if you just remove
them... the M$ registry will be unhappy. but that could be done and
things moved to get a partition.in a pinch.

Q4. most people do subscribe to this scientific fact, however
there is a group known as "the flat earth society" that profess to
disbelieve..8-)

Q5..(I add) there are other things you can do also, depending
of course on your own aims..there are several distros that fit
entirely on a floppy...they are small but still fun, and make good
recovery systems.  The only way to get a plan, is to read
extensively...All the information you need is on the web at many linux
locations..one of the best is mandrakeuser.org or follow links from
sites like slash dot. there are "howtos" written on everything..if you
have a distro in your possession they are on that CD.

This group is a goldmine of info and will bail you out
when the going gets impossible...but your responsibility will still
remain to read the manuals.I find it all quite difficult,  that is
what makes it fun...it is much easier after you get a feel for finding
all the information that is around, free for the taking 

PS..your system beats my p 166 with 24M ram, 8-) and I am running MDK
6.1 quite nicely.

Olly P

Re: [newbie] DPMS in LM7.1 won't stop

[Jeff]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Jeff,
> This looked so good, but it didn't work; power saving is still active.  
> All steps went smoothly, and as your instructions described.  I rebooted the 
> new configuration.  When the computer began power saving mode for a user, I 
> tested root which was also still functioning.  I verified that the Kdpms 
> package was gone (for both), and that the change for #Option was in 
> place, which it was.  The laptop battery power saving daemon is also 
> disabled.  
> I appreciate your help, and I hope you have more ideas: it still wants to 
> do things its own way.  I haven't tried booting to run level 3; is this worth 
> trying?  -Gary-

I'm really not sure what it could be then.  The steps I listed have always
worked fine for me.  Maybe your video card has more options than mine when it's
using power_saving..  Maybe searching through the list archives a little for
dpms vidcardname?  Just glance at that file again and see if you see any more
power oriented type things you can turn on and off.  You want to ask on the
list or look up for yourself before your turn something off you don't know
about though.  Just some ideas but I'm sure this must be something really
simple.  

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[newbie] X won't start

[Todd Wells]

I've been running 
Mandrake 7.0 for a while, I'm dual-booting with Windows using a floppy boot (at 
the moment).
 
Recently I went to 
boot Mandrake and it boots fine up to the point where it flips into graphics 
mode, where it would hang and the screen would go black.
 
I managed to boot 
just to a shell login prompt and ran xf86config, which I thought was the right 
thing to do.
 
However, now it just 
boots to a shell login prompt every time.  If I do "startx" it freezes 
(until I do a ctrl-Z and then kill the process).  
 
How do I get back 
into the graphical login (and get it working?)
 
The only thing I 
know that's changed since the last time it worked was I added a firewall to my 
system, so I know that I need to change my IP address and TCP/IP settings, but I 
don't remember how to do that from the shell, the desktop would be so much 
easier.  I really don't know if this is related to my problem (it would be 
really weak if your desktop quits just because you have a bad IP address).  

 
Any help is 
appreciated!
 
-Todd
 
 

Re: [newbie] install from hard drive

[L. H. LOO]

To install L-M over RH in the same hard disk, just proceed as if nothing 
was there, L-M detects the existing linux file system and 'ask' you for 
permission to delete, click OK, and carry on, that is what I did. Regards

At 22-09-2000 03:24 PM, you wrote:
>I am currently running Redhat Linux 6.2 and I want to install Linux
>Mandrake instead. How can I install Linux Mandrake from an existing file 
>system on an existing linux distro.

Re: [newbie] Novice Help

[L. H. LOO]

At 21-09-2000 09:55 PM, you wrote:
>Questions are:
> 1.  What are my alternatives?

Try my paranoid-way : have a spare drive of reasonable size in a removable 
tray, install your preferred OS into it, if anything were to happen, you 
still have the other OS untouched. Regards

Re: [newbie] CD-RW help!

[Larry Marshall]

> Yep.  It was a SCSI emulator.  You have to install the scsi
> emulation.  I don't remember how, but that should point you in
> the right direction.

I don't believe that "emulation" is the proper term.  What you need is
a link with the sticky bit set between scd0 and cdrom2 (assuming the
drive is the second cdrom) so that the OS can talk to the IDE CDwriter
as though it were a SCSI device.  

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] Meta key defined where?

[John Rye]

Jeff Malka wrote:
> 
> It usually is the Alt key.
> 
> My question is because in KDE console when I use MC (midnight Commander)
> there are several combinations that use the meta key combination (M-?).
> They all work correctly except the one for "find" where the meta key (Alt)
> seems not to be understood in my system.  I was therefore wondering where it
> was defined so I can see what traps it.
> 
> Anyone know what key combination to use for "find a file"  in MC (other than
> the meta combination)?
> 
> Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Registered Linux user  183185
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Carolina Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Meta key defined where?
> 
> Hi,
> I just want to ask something:
> What is a Meta Key?
> 
> Thank you,
> Carol^
> 
> El vie, 22 sep 2000, escribiste:
> > I am running Mandrake 7.1, Bash, KDE.  My Meta key is not producing the
> same
> > results as it does in Gnome.  Where is the meta key defined in KDE?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Registered Linux user  183185

Don't know about a Meta key - I use F9,c,f - works every time

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Good book

[John Rye]

"Daniel J. Ferris" wrote:
> 
> ed wrote:
> >
> > HI all I am wondering if anybody knows of a good linux security book
> >   that will explain firewalls,ports,scaners..etc... To use to secure my linux
> > box and learn more about security. thanks in advance.
> >
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> 
> Maximum Linux Security  By Anonymous (yes really)
> 
> Describes all that stuff.  Except the firewall section kinda
> sucks.
> 
> Dan

God Darn it - I always read that authors' name as "ehnun why moose"

Cheers

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Re: [OT] Who uses Linux? (was RE: [newbie] Mandrake...too many apps?)

[the Duchess of the Antipodes]

> A real Linux user you shall surely be Duchess, and if you are in fact
> writing from the perspective of a fifteen year old, a talented writer
> also I would wager.

i'm told my poetry would be exquisite if i could tone down my natural
obscurantism and grandiloquence! ;)

sorry i haven't had time to respond to all the emails people have sent
me in the last couple of days -- i've had the headache from hell, and a
few other things besides. but expect to receive a veritable torrent of
emails begging for assistance in the near future: i just this moment
received in the mail 7.0 from a very generous list-member, and i'm going
to install it this afternoon if it's the last thing i do!

the duchess.

Re: [newbie] CD-RW help!

[John Rye]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> okay, my IDE CD-RW is acting up.  I have an HP 9100 IDE/ATAPI.  For some
> reason, Linux refuses to recognize it.  Every so often I would be able to use
> it, but once I rebooted I couldn't anymore. I have reinstalled Mandrake about
> 15 times and even installed it from the CD-RW.  My DVD works just fine.  As a
> last resort, I tried removing Mandrake's "Supermount Technology" and opted to
> mount removable drives myself.  My DVD mounted OK, my zip the same, but when
> I went to mount my CD-RW,  it said "mount: The kernel does not recognize
> /dev/cdrom as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?)".  I also logged on as
> root and typed cdrecord -scanbus.  This was the error message I received "No
> such file or directory.  Cannot open SCSI driver."  Another observation I
> made:  whenver the CD-RW was working (the rare occasions) I would go into the
> HardDrake configuration utility and listed under the category CD-ROM Drives
> would be the following:
> Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD
> HP CD-Writer Plus 9100
> Unknown (When I clicked on this it was identified as a SCSI device
> (dev/scd0).  Perhaps it was a driver used for SCSI emulation???)
> 
> Anyway, whenever the CD-RW didn't work, I would go into the HardDrake again
> and see the following:
> Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD
> HP CD-Writer Plus 9100
> 
> The unknown SCSI device disappeared.  Am I correct in my assumption that the
> unknown device was a SCSI emulator?  Is this why my CD-Writer isn't working?
> If it is a SCSI driver, how do I reinstall it?  Would updating the Kernel or
> recompiling it help?  If so, how would I do that? Thanks for helping me on
> this mind-boggling problem!
> Joe, the one-week old Linux newbie.


Execute the following as root..

rm /dev/cdrom
ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom

Bet it does it for you now

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Good book

[Michael]

maximum linux.. by anonymous

*^*^*^*
Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
 on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
pickles at you? -- Real Genius

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Daniel J. Ferris wrote:

> ed wrote:
> > 
> > HI all I am wondering if anybody knows of a good linux security book
> >   that will explain firewalls,ports,scaners..etc... To use to secure my linux
> > box and learn more about security. thanks in advance.
> > 
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> 
> Maximum Linux Security  By Anonymous (yes really)
> 
> Describes all that stuff.  Except the firewall section kinda
> sucks.
> 
> Dan
> 

Re: [newbie] Good book

[Ronald Brown]

Hi,
I just read this article in Linux Journal October issue. In there review section,
there is a book called
"Building Linux and OpenBSD Firewalls. You can email the the publisher at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or their
website at http://www.wiley.com/ The book ISBN number is 4-713-5366-3 and the price
is $44.99.
Looks like a good read. Hope this helps.

Ron


Carolina Kohler wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't know about any book, but here is something that might interest you:
>
> http://trinux.sourceforge.net/
>
> Cheers,
> Carol^
>
> El mar, 28 oct 2036, escribiste:
> > HI all I am wondering if anybody knows of a good linux security book
> >   that will explain firewalls,ports,scaners..etc... To use to secure my linux
> > box and learn more about security. thanks in advance.
> >
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

[newbie] Novice Help

[kubacki]

I have an older system with a k6200 mz AMD processor 49meg of ram with a
6.5meg hard drive.  I am using Windows 95 so the hardrive is partitioned
into three 2.1 meg drives.  The problem is that the boot drive C does not
have enough room for both windows, programs, and Linux.

Questions are:
1.  What are my alternatives?
2.  Can I load Linux on a non-boot drive and then use Bios
configuration when I want to use Linux.
3.  Is there any quick way to move programs out of the boot
drive without causing havoc?
4.  Is the world really round?

I am unsure of what to do and would like to experiment using Linux as I
loathe Broken Windows and MicroSlopper.

E-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for any help.

Bob Kubacki

Re: [[newbie] Aol and Linux]

[Mwinold]

In a message dated 22-Sep-00 19:35:52 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< The connection may say 50,333 or something like that, but I dare you to 
compare
 the true speed to a real ISP >>

ok here is something i bet you didnt know aol will tell you you hooked up at 
50k or 57.33k and i recently got aol 5.0 to hook up at 115k but guess what 
its not the true speed of your connection it only works for stuff that 
directly coralates inside the aol application because it compresses the data 
bieng sent so it seems like a high speed but ITS NOT!, your phoneline is only 
capable of hanling up to 33kbps anything faster is a result of software 
manipulation try running an external browser from their software it will drag 
on and on, and in my case aol hogs the entire bandwidth of my phone line that 
sometimes it cant even run properly, aol believe it or not the older software 
like some of the first 4.0 versions operrated much more efficiently with your 
system,

Re: [newbie] ATI Rage 128

[Mwinold]

In a message dated 22-Sep-00 01:16:05 Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< i have a ATI Rage 128 Xpert 128 vid card but its not supported by LM 6.5 
what 
 can i download for it so its supported  and install it   
 -Rob >>
upgrade your xwindows client is my best thought on the subject

Re: [newbie] Please Help

[Michael]

As long as the new files you continue with have new enough versions to
satusfy their dependicies your cool. Go ahead and finish w/ ver 3 and fill
in the blanks.

*^*^*^*
Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
 on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
pickles at you? -- Real Genius

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Ronald Brown wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I was in the process of downloading mandrake 7.2 beta 2 when I had
> to stop the download.
> I restarted the download process and just noticed that 7.2 beta 3 is
> 
> on the mandrake website.
> My question is will it conflict if I was downloading beta 2 and
> restarted with beta 3, will there be
> an install conflict.
> 
> When I try to install I get the following error.
> 
> Image file not found
> Please enter name of kernal image file followed by optional
> command line parameters for linux (e.g. root=)
> or a file (file = param file) or "empty string" to abort
> 
> Thanks,
> Ron
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Trinux

[Mwinold]

www.qnx.com did the same thing along time ago its not that new qnx fits on a 
3.5 floppy it has a browser a couple games and a basic word processing packet 
it can even hook up to the internet via modem or network, qnx however is 
working on creating a full os with even more features using this process of 
micro programming, it however their main contributor who started the program 
died of cancer i believe earlier this year, but he left as much info to his 
developers as possible to continue their work, 
by the way the current demo disk available does not access your hard drive. 
although im looking forward to future developments


In a message dated 22-Sep-00 17:35:21 Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Hi everybody,

 Have you seen this?:
 
 http://trinux.sourceforge.net/
 
 Trinux is a portable Linux distribution that boots from a single floppy 
disk, 
 loads it packages from a FAT/Ext2 partition, floppy disks, or HTTP/FTP
 servers, and runs entirely in RAM.  
  >>

Re: [newbie] Meta key defined where?

[Jeff Malka]

It usually is the Alt key.

My question is because in KDE console when I use MC (midnight Commander)
there are several combinations that use the meta key combination (M-?).
They all work correctly except the one for "find" where the meta key (Alt)
seems not to be understood in my system.  I was therefore wondering where it
was defined so I can see what traps it.

Anyone know what key combination to use for "find a file"  in MC (other than
the meta combination)?

Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Registered Linux user  183185

- Original Message -
From: Carolina Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Meta key defined where?


Hi,
I just want to ask something:
What is a Meta Key?

Thank you,
Carol^

El vie, 22 sep 2000, escribiste:
> I am running Mandrake 7.1, Bash, KDE.  My Meta key is not producing the
same
> results as it does in Gnome.  Where is the meta key defined in KDE?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Registered Linux user  183185

Re: [newbie] slow printer performance

[Larry Marshall]

> Larry Marshall says that another 64MB RAM will not improve S.O. or printer
> performance much on my setup (described in my original query below). 

Uh...no I didn't.  I really have no opinion on that subject.  Not sure
who said that or whether they are correct or not.

> a possible alternative to KOffice, I'm also thinking of dumping S.O. and trying 
>Corel WordPerfect for Linux. Any hope for that? If anyone else out there has a 
>suggestion for a (MS Word compatible?) word processor I can use 

Now here's a question that's near and dear to my heart as I'd like to
drop SO like a hot potato.  I have great hopes for KOffice.  I'm not
impressed with Corel's Wine-port approach to moving their software to
Linux so I don't see them as a good alternative.  I'd love to hear
from some folks with experience with Applixware regarding its
compatibility with MS Word and Excel.

> Mandrake, please let me know. Meanwhile, Steve (or anyone else), if you can let me 
>know where I could lay my hands on KOffice,  I'd appreciate it.

Looks to me like you've got to install the beta 7.2 version of Linux,
or at least the beta 1.94 version of KDE to try them out.

> I note also that impractically slow printer and word processing performance doesn't 
>occur much as a problem on this help list.

I haven't heard of slow printing problems and haven't had them
myself.  As for discussion of word processors, there's not much to
discuss...unfortunately :-)

> What are people using their Linux-Mandrake for? Or does everyone but me have a 
>Pentium III, 800Mhz, with a

I grumble everytime I hit the Star Office icon.  It lets me do what I
need to do (with a very limited font set) but only barely...and
slowly.  Does that help (grin)?

> getting a simple desktop setup together and running when my requirements are so 
>completely basic. I was weeks getting my modem/internet connection

Then you haven't read much about Linux from people who aren't in the
Linux development community (though in fairness even they will say
it).  The biggest rap against Linux is its lack of office apps. 
That'll change but it's tough right now.  

> to fall back on. What an irony given that I started all this to get clear of Bill 
>Gates and his Bandits!

For myself, I'm learning Linux and will move my writing work to this
environment when the tools improve.  That won't be long I think and I
have much to learn in the mean time.

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] CD-RW help!

[Daniel J. Ferris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> okay, my IDE CD-RW is acting up.  I have an HP 9100 IDE/ATAPI.  For some
> reason, Linux refuses to recognize it.  Every so often I would be able to use
> it, but once I rebooted I couldn't anymore. I have reinstalled Mandrake about
> 15 times and even installed it from the CD-RW.  My DVD works just fine.  As a
> last resort, I tried removing Mandrake's "Supermount Technology" and opted to
> mount removable drives myself.  My DVD mounted OK, my zip the same, but when
> I went to mount my CD-RW,  it said "mount: The kernel does not recognize
> /dev/cdrom as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?)".  I also logged on as
> root and typed cdrecord -scanbus.  This was the error message I received "No
> such file or directory.  Cannot open SCSI driver."  Another observation I
> made:  whenver the CD-RW was working (the rare occasions) I would go into the
> HardDrake configuration utility and listed under the category CD-ROM Drives
> would be the following:
> Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD
> HP CD-Writer Plus 9100
> Unknown (When I clicked on this it was identified as a SCSI device
> (dev/scd0).  Perhaps it was a driver used for SCSI emulation???)
> 
> Anyway, whenever the CD-RW didn't work, I would go into the HardDrake again
> and see the following:
> Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD
> HP CD-Writer Plus 9100
> 
> The unknown SCSI device disappeared.  Am I correct in my assumption that the
> unknown device was a SCSI emulator?  Is this why my CD-Writer isn't working?
> If it is a SCSI driver, how do I reinstall it?  Would updating the Kernel or
> recompiling it help?  If so, how would I do that? Thanks for helping me on
> this mind-boggling problem!
> Joe, the one-week old Linux newbie.

heh heh heh

Yep.  It was a SCSI emulator.  You have to install the scsi
emulation.  I don't remember how, but that should point you in
the right direction.

Dan

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[David M. Reed]

Re: [newbie] Good book

[Daniel J. Ferris]

ed wrote:
> 
> HI all I am wondering if anybody knows of a good linux security book
>   that will explain firewalls,ports,scaners..etc... To use to secure my linux
> box and learn more about security. thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Maximum Linux Security  By Anonymous (yes really)

Describes all that stuff.  Except the firewall section kinda
sucks.

Dan

Re: Netscape question - was Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Larry Marshall]

> If you have installed the tarball version first,
> can you just delete the dir in which you specified
> Netscape to install or does it dribble a bunch of
> stupid little libs all around that yoiu don't know about?

I'm not sure about stupid little libs but you can find out what files
were extracted from a tarball, and where they were put by doing

tar tf filename.tar

> I wonder if I need to know what to look for
> like little useless libs or .so files left behind
> by a tarball installation of Netscape.

Linux structure requires that doc files go one place, lib files go
another, and the actual executables/scripts be placed elsewhere. 

Cheers --- Larry

RE: [newbie] Netscape 4.75 is okay, ignore other msg

[Romanator]

Yup. --force parameter worked for me also.

Roman
Registered Linux User #179293 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Netscape 4.75 is okay, ignore other msg


Hi all,

I got bold and slapped the box. I shoved the installer-rpms down rpm's
throat with the --force parameter. Netscape 4.75 is running.

I don't know if this rudeness will get me in trouble later on but I can
browse now  :)

Paul

--
Do they ever shut up on your planet?

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RE: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Romanator]

You are partially correct. I've seen a lot, and I mean a lot of crappy PCs
built by people who think they know how to build a custom PC. Just my $0.02.

Roman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Curtis
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--


Hand-built pc will tipically be more stable and faster. This comes with
higher quality parts. Prebuilt pcs are less expensive for a reason, lower
quality parts. Also prebuilt units will have several applications that are
made by the manufacturer, thus can cause problems with other apps or the OS
in general. Most users that are willing to build a custom pc will put more
effort into research and compatiblity of the parts they are going to by.

In short you get what you pay for.


- Original Message -
From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:26 AM
Subject: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--


> Hello Linuxers.
>
> I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
>
> I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> seems to run better than my roommate's
> pre-built system.
>

RE: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Romanator]

Has any one seen Netscape 6? It looks very much like Mozilla.

Roman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--


Netscape has some nasty memory leaks especially for people who use forms a
lot (web mail) and on systems without enough memory it can, and often does
flood all avail memory until the box crashes. Limit the amount of memory
it can use to something like 32M and it'll run just as well as normal and
when it crashes it'll just kill itself rather than messing the rest of the
system up. Upgrading to the msot recent version reduces the crashes
experienced but it's still annoying. Luckily Mozilla is doing much better
in that area. :)

*^*^*^*
Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
 on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
pickles at you? -- Real Genius

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Patti Wavinak wrote:

>
> Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better.
> Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not
> experiencing the problems that others are :-)
>
> And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never
> bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned.
> I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually
> when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when
> I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or
> Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself.
>
> Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611
>
> The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal
> itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it.
>
> >> Original Message <<
>
> On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding
> [newbie] Is it my imagination or--:
>
>
> > Hello Linuxers.
>
> > I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> > systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> > PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> > "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
>
> > I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> > seems to run better than my roommate's
> > pre-built system.
>

Re: [newbie] ATI Rage 128

[mrweb]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> i have a ATI Rage 128 Xpert 128 vid card but its not supported by LM 6.5 what
> can i download for it so its supported  and install it
> -Rob


Hi Rob,

I have an ATI Rage 128 card and it works just fine under both 7.0, and
7.1.
I am not sure what to advise to to download though, possibly a driver or
upgrade your system.

mrweb

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[A V Flinsch]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Thats what I thought, I knew I was not mad
> when I told my roomy that I prefer to hand
> select hardware types, he kept telling me

My experience has been that homebuilts are of significantly better quality &
performance also.


> that "parts is parts" and I said 
> "shyeah, and monkeys will fly out
> of my butt".
> 

Take a look at http://www.flyingbuttmonkeys.com for some interesting linux stuff

-- 
Alex
(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)

Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!

[markOpoleO]

Thank you very much, sorry if there was confusion.

markOpoleO
- Original Message -
From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!


>
> - Original Message -
> From: "markOpoleO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!
>
>
> > Perhaps if you looked at my problem, you could give a helpful
> answer...that
> > was a good reason to ignore your message last time, just like now.  "if
> you
> > would enter the proper set- serial commands"..great, what are they?
I/o
> is
> > 0xd400  IRQ is 10
> >
> > markOpoleO
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!
> >
> >
> > >
>  > >
> > >
> > >  I had previously posted a response to your question. You either
did
> > not
> > > see it or choose to ignore it, so I will try 1 more time.
> > >
> > > I have an Actiontec PCI modem. In Windows the modem is on Comm5,
in
> > > Linux the modem is Comm4, ttyS3. THERE IS NO ttyS4.
> > > If you will enter the proper set-serial commands you should have
no
> > > problem getting your modem to work in kppp as ttyS3.
> > >  If you continue to insist on trying to set-up your modem using a
> > value
> > > that does not exist then you need to go out now to your nearest
computer
> > > store and buy an external modem, because you will NEVER be able to get
> > your
> > > PCI modem to work
> > >
>
> I have posted the the the commands to the list at least a half dozen times
> but here they are again.
>
> # setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xd400 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig
> If there are no errors, then enter
> # setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A
>
> Select /dev/ttyS3 as the device in kppp and your modem should now
> initalizeand operate.
> To make this perm. you will need to edit your rc.local file which is
located
> in the /etc/rc.d directory. Add the 2 setserial lines to the end of this
> file Save the changes and reboot your system.
>
>Charles
>
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Robin Regennitter]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:

In the upcoming version of Mandrake,  there is suppose to be a kde browser
similar to IE browser for windows.  So I've heard.   I think it's call Konquer.

> As much as I hate to cheer Microsoft, right now I'm running 4 instances of
> IE 5.5 and Outlook Express and am having no problems whatsoever.  Before the
> 4.0 versions I used Netscape, but I switched to IE because it is much more
> stable on all the systems I use it on.
> 
> Do you think there's any chance of MS release Internet Explorer for linux?
> :)
> 
> 
> dwyatt
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Patti Wavinak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--
> 
> 
> 
> Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better.
> Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not
> experiencing the problems that others are :-)
> 
> And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never
> bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned.
> I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually
> when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when
> I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or
> Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself.
> 
> Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611
> 
> The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal
> itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it.
> 
> >> Original Message <<
> 
> On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding
> [newbie] Is it my imagination or--:
> 
> 
> > Hello Linuxers.
> 
> > I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> > systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> > PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> > "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
> 
> > I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> > seems to run better than my roommate's
> > pre-built system.

[newbie] Please Help

[Ronald Brown]

Hi,

I was in the process of downloading mandrake 7.2 beta 2 when I had
to stop the download.
I restarted the download process and just noticed that 7.2 beta 3 is

on the mandrake website.
My question is will it conflict if I was downloading beta 2 and
restarted with beta 3, will there be
an install conflict.

When I try to install I get the following error.

Image file not found
Please enter name of kernal image file followed by optional
command line parameters for linux (e.g. root=)
or a file (file = param file) or "empty string" to abort

Thanks,
Ron

[newbie] Disaster recovery? (was EXT2)

[GAPrichard]

Peanut Linux I understand is like Tom's Root Boot, a complete Linux with 
tools and utilities that fits on a floppy, so that you can boot from it.  
Having a linux system that fits on a floppy allows you to fix problems with 
your installed Linux that block proper startup.  You would boot to hdc1 
[first drive on second controller (master drive on that controller) partition 
#1]  [hdd (second hard drive on the second controller) in my case is actually 
a CDROM, put here because it transfers data at the same rate this hard drive 
does (initial booting POST detection of drives will usually tell you the data 
transfer rates)], hda6 [first hard drive (master) on first controller 
partition #6] or wherever your /(root) partition is located.  
I'd sure like to learn something about "disaster recovery".  How about 
some comments!  -Gary-

In a message dated 9/20/2000 10:51:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  peanut linux >>
 > ???peanut linux
 > sounds luck someone was a nut when they wrote this version
 
 Peanut Linux is a micro-version of the OS to use in small devices.  It
 will fit on a floppy.
 
 Cheers --- Larry
  >>

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Robin Regennitter]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:

yeah   the way the sounds work here is a bit strange.   I have CrystalClear. 
For the kde sounds system,  it plays all the kde sounds.  cant hear any of the
other sounds such as space sounds.   If I turn the volume all the way up   the
kde sounds blast through the speaker but the other sounds I can barely hear it. 
like it turned way down.  Sounds doesnt work at all in Gnome.  CD plays just
fine, but it blast if I dont turn the volume down but then again   I wouldnt be
able to hear the space sounds.   Maybe MDK will fix that on the next versions.

Rob

> > Sound volume control is a frequent problem for new users..
> > 
> > Ok from a terminal 'aumix'
> 
> Thanks John...I'm presuming this is the base Linux sound control but I
> would have thought that kmix would have done the same thing.  Guess
> not.  I'll pass your msg to him.  I'm more of a "quiet" computer guy
> and haven't dealt with any of this sound stuff.
> 
> Cheers --- Larry

Re: Netscape question - was Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Robin Regennitter]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
yeah   so dont forget to use the upgrade so that'll erase the old version.

> If you have installed the tarball version first,
> can you just delete the dir in which you specified
> Netscape to install or does it dribble a bunch of
> stupid little libs all around that yoiu don't know about?
> 
> I wonder if I need to know what to look for
> like little useless libs or .so files left behind
> by a tarball installation of Netscape.
> 
> The rpm uninstallation should be simple as a pimple,
> just use the kpackage or rpm thing and make it
> erase it.
> 
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, John Rye wrote:
> > Larry Marshall wrote:
> > > 
> > > > to the windoze that crashes a lot or freezes.  hardly had any crashes except 
>for that darn Netscape.  That program itself crashes but not the system.
> > > 
> > > Ah...I'm not alone :-)  While doing mail with Netscape I've had it
> > > freeze everything tighter than a drum...twice.  Couldn't kill X,
> > > couldn't do nothing.
> > > 
> > > Cheers --- Larry
> > 
> > Netscape-- download version 4.75 - remember to uninstall your current
> > version before installing the new version. All of your current settings
> > etc are retained.
> > 
> > Netscape has not crashed on me since upgrading..
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
> > (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)

Re: [newbie] Mounting new drive

[bascule]

hi goldenpi, your stuff currently on /home would simply become invisible
unless your current /home is a seperate volume that you can mount
elsewhere but i guess not from your intention to use your new drive as
/home. use ext2 unless for some reason you 'have' to be able to see this
drive in dos/windows, permissions don't work the same on a dos drive
(basically there are none - sort of) so i can see things becoming
confused with such a basic part of the filesystem on a dos partition -
expert needed here i think!

rename /home to /home.old or similar, create /home again, mount new
drive to /home and copy the contents of /home.old over, my hunch would
be to do this as root with X not running to avoid having files from
/home open while performing this action.

not knowing how your drive is connected or if it is scsi or ide i cannot
tell you what a suitable fstab should be, but if you run drakconf and
then linuxconf and choose file systems and then access local drive; you
should see your new drive detailed as not mounted, click on it's entry
and enter the options you want including mount point, this will create
your fstab for you and you can mount and unmount the drive to copy your
files over

i hope this is cogent (and correct!), i think i've confused myself!

bascule


Goldenpi wrote:
> 
> I have just inserted my new old 500mi drive, to hold my /home partition.
> Now, should I use ext2 or dos filesystem? If I  use ext2, what is the
> correct format for fstab? If I just mount it to /home what will happen to
> the stuff in my /home partition now?
> 
> I see a reformat looming.
> 
>

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Larry Marshall]

> I have 2 machines here, a PentiumII/400 handbuilt, and a P-II/350
> pre-built. Mandrake 7.1 runs fine on both of them. I think it is more a
> matter of having more or less well supported hardware than where the
> system comes from. 

I agree about the hardware but what about the software source?  I have
limited experience comparing installation sets but here's a couple
examples that have caused me to wonder.

Mandrake 7.1
1) Maximum Linux included a 7.1 disk...just one disk. 
2) I've installed 7.1 from commercial disks and it worked fine.  But
what I see is that some of the drivers are on the ext disk.  How would
it work with the Max Linux disk?
3) To test my new CD writer I downloaded iso images of 7.1 and made
raw image disks using CD-Creator (in image mode) and with cdrecord. 
Both of these disks appear identical and act the samethey won't go
through the install.  Rather, they give me the "can't create ramdisk"
error that's been reported here (remember, my system is happily
running 7.1 so it's not hardware).

I've also noted that different mirror sites have iso images of
different sizes?  Anyone understand this?  For instance, right now
there are two locations for iso images of 7.2 and both the inst and
ext images are very different from one another on the two sites.  All
I have are questions here; anyone have answers?

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [[newbie] Aol and Linux]

[Jay]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Several years ago aol was worse than it is these days.  They have updated 
> their network and line availability [I regularly connect at 50,333, sometimes 
> better but never lower than 49,666 and the program seldom needs to try a 
> second phone number to connect] -- the "aol cuts you off" problem is somewhat 
> better (it used to cut me off when replying to e-mail online, now it checks 
> you and if you are typing it doesn't cut you off).  -Gary-
> 
> In a message dated 9/17/2000 7:34:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
> << that I would consider using AOL, my opinion of AOL is not a very good
>  one, but these threads have interested me this morning.  I saw this
>   >>
> 
-- 
The connection may say 50,333 or something like that, but I dare you to compare
the true speed to a real ISP.  AOL is only popular because of the human race's
collective laziness and reliance upon advertising to dictate their actions.

Jay
"May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with 
gladness, that stays forever after."
"May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend."
http://www.mrsnooky.com

[newbie] CD-RW help!

[Heartboy22]

okay, my IDE CD-RW is acting up.  I have an HP 9100 IDE/ATAPI.  For some 
reason, Linux refuses to recognize it.  Every so often I would be able to use 
it, but once I rebooted I couldn't anymore. I have reinstalled Mandrake about 
15 times and even installed it from the CD-RW.  My DVD works just fine.  As a 
last resort, I tried removing Mandrake's "Supermount Technology" and opted to 
mount removable drives myself.  My DVD mounted OK, my zip the same, but when 
I went to mount my CD-RW,  it said "mount: The kernel does not recognize 
/dev/cdrom as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?)".  I also logged on as 
root and typed cdrecord -scanbus.  This was the error message I received "No 
such file or directory.  Cannot open SCSI driver."  Another observation I 
made:  whenver the CD-RW was working (the rare occasions) I would go into the 
HardDrake configuration utility and listed under the category CD-ROM Drives 
would be the following:
Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD
HP CD-Writer Plus 9100
Unknown (When I clicked on this it was identified as a SCSI device 
(dev/scd0).  Perhaps it was a driver used for SCSI emulation???)

Anyway, whenever the CD-RW didn't work, I would go into the HardDrake again 
and see the following:
Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD
HP CD-Writer Plus 9100

The unknown SCSI device disappeared.  Am I correct in my assumption that the 
unknown device was a SCSI emulator?  Is this why my CD-Writer isn't working?  
If it is a SCSI driver, how do I reinstall it?  Would updating the Kernel or 
recompiling it help?  If so, how would I do that? Thanks for helping me on 
this mind-boggling problem!
Joe, the one-week old Linux newbie.

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Jay]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> IE does not crash as much as netscape, in fact it is common knowledge that
> IE is more stable than netscape..I only had IE crash once, and in MD 7.1
> version of netscape it crashed first time i tryed it out.
> 

-- 
I guess you never tried IE 5.5 yet?  I had to reboot about every 30 minutes
while using it.  That was the last straw for me as a Microsoft user.


Jay
"May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with 
gladness, that stays forever after."
"May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend."
http://www.mrsnooky.com

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[William Presho]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Vic wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Linuxers.
> > 
> > I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> > systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> > PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> > "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
> > 
> > I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> > seems to run better than my roommate's
> > pre-built system.
> 
> Sitting as I do way out in the middle os the South Pacific Ocean,
> I'm not familiar with the trade names you have mentioned above.
> 
> Way down here we lot's of hassle with cheap 'mail-order' systems 
> and lack of support.
> 
> I would tend to think that if you build your own system from
> 'quality' components you would be much better off and have a rather
> more reliable system.
> 
> All-in-all I think it's a case of 'Caveat Emptor' - 'Let the Buyer
> Beware' as opposed to 'Let the Buyer Be Aware' - yes??
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -- 
> ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
> (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)

What I did was search the sites that sold Linux machines and then build
mine with the componets that they used. (VA Linux comes to mind)
Every thing worked great on the first try.
-- 
William Presho
Registered Linux User #119170

"Windows FREE in 2000!"

RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh

[Philomena]

I'll have to track down my notes, but I also had to get updated drivers for 
my nvidia geforce 256 card - that did the trick for me to be able to run 
Q3. In Cooker, there are a few other 4.01 xfree RPMS - theres a 
XFree86-libs4.0.1, a devel rpm,docs, etc..
Maybe you should try installing or upgrading to 7.1 - is that an option for 
you ? if you do an expert install you have the option to install and start 
4.01. I did that with the 7.2 beta and it worked out nicely.

philomena

At 01:55 PM 9/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
> No problemo.  Yeah, I reran the rebuild command again and same
>thing. You know I renamed the packages.rpm to packages.bak(don't know if I
>was supposed to do that or not) and tried running the rpm -Uvh and it told
>me that a bunch of dependiences failed.  Are the dependiences that it is
>refering to in the packages.rpm.  May I ask what specifically you had to do
>to upgrade to 4.01.  I need 4.0.1 to be able to get full use out of my video
>card and to play quake 3.
>
>Thanks.
>
>joshs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:02 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
>
>
>Sorry Josh - I should have been more specific and asked did you run the
>rebuild *again*, after you updated to the 4.0 version ? Does running
>kpackage or rpmdrake give the same database error ?
>I had upgraded to the 4.01 a little while ago and I was pretty sure there
>was more than one RPM to install, not that it should be causing the problem
>you are seeing .
>
>philomena
>
>At 10:20 AM 9/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >Ok.  I've loaded 4.0 version of rpm and I am still getting the error when
> >trying to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm "An rpm in db1 format exists in
> >/var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running "rpm
> >--rebuilddb" as root.  What is db1 and db3 format's?  Thanks...
> >
> >Josh
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:49 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
> >
> >
> >www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
> >
> >
> >look there, there should be new RPM's for Mandrake :P (*hint* i586)
> >makes RPM browsing so much faster
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Josh Shirey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:41 AM
> >Subject: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, I am running MD 7.  I'm trying to update/install XFree86.4.0.1
> > > as a single 15 meg rpm.  I was told to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm and I
> >should
> > > be good to go but I an running into this error message and I don't know
> >what
> > > to do next.  The error message I'm getting is "An rpm in db1 format
>exists
> > > in /var/lib/rpm/parckages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running
> >"rpm
> > > --rebuilddb" as root."  I do the rpm --rebuilddb and it acts like it
>does
> > > something but when I go back and try rpm -Uvh filename.rpm it gives me
>the
> > > same error message. When i do a rpm -q I see that I am running version
> >3.0.
> > > Could the version of rpm I am running be my problem and if so how and
> >where
> > > would I go to update my version of rpm for MD.
> > >
> > > Thanks...
> > >
> > > josh
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [newbie] Meta key defined where?

[Carolina Kohler]

Hi,
I just want to ask something:
What is a Meta Key?

Thank you,
Carol^

El vie, 22 sep 2000, escribiste:
> I am running Mandrake 7.1, Bash, KDE.  My Meta key is not producing the same
> results as it does in Gnome.  Where is the meta key defined in KDE?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Registered Linux user  183185

RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh

[Philomena]

Hi Paul,

I realised that :-)
you should be seeing a second mail from me soon saying I should have been 
more specific in my reply  -

I'm not at my linux machine so I can't check this out myself - I've never 
seen "dbrebuild" as an rpm command - only "rebuilddb" - what's the 
difference ?

cheers,
philomena

At 08:56 PM 9/22/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Philomena wrote:
>
>Yes, he did. He already wrote that he did.
>Perhaps the best way to do:
>
>download the new RPM, as Adam wrote below, from
>www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
>and then do the rpm --dbrebuild
>That could get something going. At least, I hope!
>
>Paul
>
> >Did you do as the error message recommended and rebuild your RPM database ?
> >
> >philomena
> >At 10:20 AM 9/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Ok.  I've loaded 4.0 version of rpm and I am still getting the error when
> >>trying to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm "An rpm in db1 format exists in
> >>/var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running "rpm
> >>--rebuilddb" as root.  What is db1 and db3 format's?  Thanks...
> >>
> >>Josh
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:49 AM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
> >>
> >>
> >>www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
> >>look there, there should be new RPM's for Mandrake :P (*hint* i586)
> >>makes RPM browsing so much faster
>
>
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RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh

[Josh Shirey]

Do you think doing that will convert the database to db3?

joshs

-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh


On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Philomena wrote:

Yes, he did. He already wrote that he did.
Perhaps the best way to do:

download the new RPM, as Adam wrote below, from
www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
and then do the rpm --dbrebuild
That could get something going. At least, I hope!

Paul

>Did you do as the error message recommended and rebuild your RPM database ?
>
>philomena
>At 10:20 AM 9/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Ok.  I've loaded 4.0 version of rpm and I am still getting the error when
>>trying to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm "An rpm in db1 format exists in
>>/var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running "rpm
>>--rebuilddb" as root.  What is db1 and db3 format's?  Thanks...
>>
>>Josh
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:49 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
>>
>>
>>www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
>>look there, there should be new RPM's for Mandrake :P (*hint* i586)
>>makes RPM browsing so much faster


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Re: [newbie] slow printer performance

[Fabian Jennings]

Steve,

Larry Marshall says that another 64MB RAM will not improve S.O. or printer
performance much on my setup (described in my original query below). Still, I'm
prepared to try it if there's no other way. Also, I'd try KOffice if I knew
where to locate it, and felt I had any chance of making a successful install. As
a possible alternative to KOffice, I'm also thinking of dumping S.O. and trying
Corel WordPerfect for Linux. Any hope for that? If anyone else out there has a
suggestion for a (MS Word compatible?) word processor I can use along with
Mandrake, please let me know. Meanwhile, Steve (or anyone else), if you can let
me know where I could lay my hands on KOffice,  I'd appreciate it.

I note also that impractically slow printer and word processing performance
doesn't occur much as a problem on this help list. What are people using their
Linux-Mandrake for? Or does everyone but me have a Pentium III, 800Mhz, with a
gazillion MB's of RAM? I really am amazed that I'm having so much trouble
getting a simple desktop setup together and running when my requirements are so
completely basic. I was weeks getting my modem/internet connection straightened
out, and now this. Oh well, I'm learning tons, and I do have my Microsoft setup
to fall back on. What an irony given that I started all this to get clear of
Bill Gates and his Bandits!

Regards,
 Fabian

Steve Weltman wrote:

> Fabian,
>
> StarOffice is a resource hog.  If you aren't running a P3 600+ with like
> 128MB RAM, it's slow.  It's NOT Linux's system (well, the O/S anyhow).
> Please try a test...Use the KOffice products for a bit.  Let me know if this
> is faster than before (I don't have access to a printer at the moment, but I
> have had lots of time to fiddle with SOffice 5.2, and it's slower than
> molasses in January, even on my system... P2/300, 96MB, 2MB VRAM laptop).
>
> As for the printing, all sounds correct.  It should be a little faster than
> that, but it's a little slower than windows with some inkjet machines for
> some reason (I have no info why).
>
> Steve W.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fabian Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:16 PM
> Subject: [newbie] slow printer performance
>
> > I have a PC pentium 233 with 32MB RAM, and am dual booting
> > between  Linux-Mandrake 7.1 and Win 95. My printer is an HP
> > Deskjet 870Cxi. Under Windows, it prints as expected - 4 to
> > 5 pages of black and white text per minute, or thereabouts.
> > Under Linux-Mandrake, however, it prints at about one fifth
> > that speed. Mandrake recognizes my printer as a series 870C,
> >
> > and lists a driver for it. I configured accordingly, both
> > using printtool and DrakConf. I am quite confident that I
> > entered all the configuaration info correctly. As I said, it
> > does print
> > under Mandrake. Also, it runs off the ASCII test page
> > without a
> > hitch. But when I go back to the KDE desktop and print a
> > text document from one of my StarOffice 5.2 files or an
> > email from Netscape, for example, it prints woefully slowly.
> >
> > I have gone back to both printtool and Drakconfig to change
> > the print filter, choosing other HP Deskjet drivers listed,
> > but that has not made any difference. Has anybody got any
> > idea what could be wrong and how to fix it? I'll also
> > mention that moving around with the mouse on my KDE
> > desktop is quick and responsive, but bringing up StarOffice
> > and moving around on the StarOffice desktop are slow and
> > tedious; i.e., like the printer performance. Star Office
> > takes about three or four minutes to appear after I click on
> >
> > it, and the same for a new document page, once I'm there.I'm
> >
> > throwing this in, not to double up on problems, but because
> > I'm wondering if there could be any connection?
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Fabian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

[newbie] Netscape 4.75 is okay, ignore other msg

[Paul]

Hi all,

I got bold and slapped the box. I shoved the installer-rpms down rpm's
throat with the --force parameter. Netscape 4.75 is running.

I don't know if this rudeness will get me in trouble later on but I can
browse now  :)

Paul

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Re: [newbie] How to add shortcuts to KDE desktop

[Richard Davies]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> I so embarrased about asking this but how do I add a shortcut to the KDE
> desktop.  Do I right click and select New -> Application?  It says
> Program.kdelnk, but I'm not sure what to do with it.  Do I replace that is
> /usr/bin/foo or something?

Replace Progam.kdelnk with whatever name you want on the desktop eg FRED.kdelnk
Press enter or click OK

This will bring up KFM.

There are 4 tabs on the top marked General, Permissions, Execute & Application

General will show the name you have assigned to kdelnk in this example
FRED.kdelnk

Set permissions as needed probably turn on execute permissions

Execute set to the path of the program you want to run /usr/bin/FRED

Click the icon and choose a custom one

Click OK

Done

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[newbie] Help, Netscape 4.75 install problem

[Paul]

Hi all,

I am running into strangeness here...
I want to install netscape 4.75. As per indication, I removed the old
netscape stuff (meaning the communicator 4.73, and also netscape-common
4.73).

Now I am ready to install 4.75 and this happens:

[root@internet paul]# rpm -iv netscape-common-4.75-7mdk.i586.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
XFree86 >= 4.0 is needed by netscape-common-4.75-7mdk
rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) <= 3.0.3-1 is needed by
netscape-common-4.75-7mdk

I do not have, nor want (for now) Xfree 4. And what on earth does it
complain about wanting RPMlib less than 3.0.3-1 (I have 3.0.4. running)??

Would I be better off getting the source-rpms and compile them myself?

If anyone knows, please let me know...

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Vic]

Thats what I thought, I knew I was not mad
when I told my roomy that I prefer to hand
select hardware types, he kept telling me
that "parts is parts" and I said 
"shyeah, and monkeys will fly out
of my butt".

By the way Charley you owe me a dollar,
I win the bet. Leave it in the candy dish
when you get back from class.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vic wrote:
> 
> >I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> >systems tend to run better than a pre-built 
> >PC bought at like either "?triangle" or 
> >"?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
> >
> >I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> >seems to run better than my roommate's 
> >pre-built system.
> 
> I have 2 machines here, a PentiumII/400 handbuilt, and a P-II/350
> pre-built. Mandrake 7.1 runs fine on both of them. I think it is more a
> matter of having more or less well supported hardware than where the
> system comes from. When I stick a winmodem into the handbuilt, it won't
> run. When I hook up the old 28.8K external  modem to the ttyS1 port of the
> prebuilt, it will run.
> 
> Paul
> 
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> 
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Re: [newbie] Setting the time

[Hellmut]

You can set it in the BIOS or as root on  console typing "timetool".



> Hello.
>
> I have a quick one for whoever is interested.  How do I set the time?  I
> know I set my time zone correctly when I installed Linux, but for some
> reason my clock is off by 3 hours.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Phil
>
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Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Vic]

I *thought* so, I experienced this when I used to
have an imaginemail account (BOO LYCOS and WhoWhere!) for shutting
it down!  Anyway, my trick was to bring up the handydandy
little kedit and type my mail all in there and then
copy and paste it to the form in Nutscrape and then
send the mail--hehehe.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Michael wrote:
> Netscape has some nasty memory leaks especially for people who use forms a
> lot (web mail) and on systems without enough memory it can, and often does
> flood all avail memory until the box crashes. Limit the amount of memory
> it can use to something like 32M and it'll run just as well as normal and
> when it crashes it'll just kill itself rather than messing the rest of the
> system up. Upgrading to the msot recent version reduces the crashes
> experienced but it's still annoying. Luckily Mozilla is doing much better
> in that area. :)
> 
> *^*^*^*
> Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
>  on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
> pickles at you? -- Real Genius
> 
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Patti Wavinak wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better. 
> > Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not 
> > experiencing the problems that others are :-)
> > 
> > And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never 
> > bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned. 
> > I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually 
> > when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when 
> > I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or 
> > Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself.
> > 
> > Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611
> > 
> > The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal 
> > itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it. 
> > 
> > >> Original Message <<
> > 
> > On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding 
> > [newbie] Is it my imagination or--:
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello Linuxers.
> > 
> > > I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> > > systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> > > PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> > > "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
> > 
> > > I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> > > seems to run better than my roommate's
> > > pre-built system.
> >

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[John W]

I prefer home/self built systems because you know exactly what is in the box 
and don't have to deal with proprietary hardware issues. Now if you need 
tech support for your pc you will not get if you build it yourself>
John


>From: John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--
>Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:54:19 +1200
>
>Vic wrote:
> >
> > Hello Linuxers.
> >
> > I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> > systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> > PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> > "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
> >
> > I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> > seems to run better than my roommate's
> > pre-built system.
>
>Sitting as I do way out in the middle os the South Pacific Ocean,
>I'm not familiar with the trade names you have mentioned above.
>
>Way down here we lot's of hassle with cheap 'mail-order' systems
>and lack of support.
>
>I would tend to think that if you build your own system from
>'quality' components you would be much better off and have a rather
>more reliable system.
>
>All-in-all I think it's a case of 'Caveat Emptor' - 'Let the Buyer
>Beware' as opposed to 'Let the Buyer Be Aware' - yes??
>
>Cheers
>
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>(The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
>
>

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Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[dwyatt]

As much as I hate to cheer Microsoft, right now I'm running 4 instances of
IE 5.5 and Outlook Express and am having no problems whatsoever.  Before the
4.0 versions I used Netscape, but I switched to IE because it is much more
stable on all the systems I use it on.

Do you think there's any chance of MS release Internet Explorer for linux?
:)


dwyatt


- Original Message -
From: "Patti Wavinak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--



Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better.
Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not
experiencing the problems that others are :-)

And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never
bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned.
I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually
when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when
I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or
Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself.

Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611

The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal
itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it.

>> Original Message <<

On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding
[newbie] Is it my imagination or--:


> Hello Linuxers.

> I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?

> I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> seems to run better than my roommate's
> pre-built system.

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Vic]

Many thanks, I should have known.

I might give 7.1 a try if my current version becomes
obsolete

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Curtis wrote:
> Hand-built pc will tipically be more stable and faster. This comes with
> higher quality parts. Prebuilt pcs are less expensive for a reason, lower
> quality parts. Also prebuilt units will have several applications that are
> made by the manufacturer, thus can cause problems with other apps or the OS
> in general. Most users that are willing to build a custom pc will put more
> effort into research and compatiblity of the parts they are going to by.
> 
> In short you get what you pay for.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:26 AM
> Subject: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--
> 
> 
> > Hello Linuxers.
> >
> > I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> > systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> > PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> > "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
> >
> > I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> > seems to run better than my roommate's
> > pre-built system.
> >

Netscape question - was Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Vic]

If you have installed the tarball version first,
can you just delete the dir in which you specified
Netscape to install or does it dribble a bunch of
stupid little libs all around that yoiu don't know about?

I wonder if I need to know what to look for
like little useless libs or .so files left behind
by a tarball installation of Netscape.

The rpm uninstallation should be simple as a pimple,
just use the kpackage or rpm thing and make it
erase it.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, John Rye wrote:
> Larry Marshall wrote:
> > 
> > > to the windoze that crashes a lot or freezes.  hardly had any crashes except for 
>that darn Netscape.  That program itself crashes but not the system.
> > 
> > Ah...I'm not alone :-)  While doing mail with Netscape I've had it
> > freeze everything tighter than a drum...twice.  Couldn't kill X,
> > couldn't do nothing.
> > 
> > Cheers --- Larry
> 
> Netscape-- download version 4.75 - remember to uninstall your current
> version before installing the new version. All of your current settings
> etc are retained.
> 
> Netscape has not crashed on me since upgrading..
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[dwyatt]

It's my experience that pre-built systems are loaded so full of crap when
you buy them, it's surprising they run at all.

When friends of mine buy pre-built comps ( against my advice of couse  :) ),
I always just format the HD, re-install windoze, and then install just the
software they want.

I've actually benchmarked this with ZDBoP's suite of benchmarks, and seena
10-15% improvement.


dwyatt

- Original Message -
From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:26 AM
Subject: [newbie] Is it my imagination or--


> Hello Linuxers.
>
> I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
>
> I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> seems to run better than my roommate's
> pre-built system.
>

Re: [newbie] HP DeskJet 930 (fwd)

[Till Kamppeter]

The HP DeskJet 930 C is fully supported by LinuxMandrake 7.2. The
classification "Partially" was done on www.linuxprinting.org before an
excellent new driver for most colour ink jets came out (GIMP-Print,
http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net). Now it probably works much better
than before. to install simply chooses the printer from the menues in
printerdrake or KUPS. To print use qtcups  or xpp 
and then you will have a lot of options to do the printing job in
different qualities. 

Note: Not all models could be tested by the authors, so there is no
warrenty whether the 930C prints really well.

   Till

Denis Havlik wrote:
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> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:23:39 +0200
> From: Roman Korcek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] HP DeskJet 930
> 
> Hi guys,
> When responding to this topic, please email me directly to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] since I am not subscribed to the list. TIA.
> 
> For the question - I am planning on buying a HP DeskJet 930 but I
> checked the hardware list on Mandrake and its support is listed as
> partial (second out of four possible levels of support, four being the
> best). So I'd like to ask - has anyone had any experience with this
> printer ?  If yes, how is it doing under Linux ?
> 
> Thanx in advance
> Roman

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Larry Marshall]

> Sound volume control is a frequent problem for new users..
> 
> Ok from a terminal 'aumix'

Thanks John...I'm presuming this is the base Linux sound control but I
would have thought that kmix would have done the same thing.  Guess
not.  I'll pass your msg to him.  I'm more of a "quiet" computer guy
and haven't dealt with any of this sound stuff.

Cheers --- Larry

[newbie] Trinux

[Carolina Kohler]

Hi everybody,

Have you seen this?:

http://trinux.sourceforge.net/

Trinux is a portable Linux distribution that boots from a single floppy disk, 
loads it packages from a FAT/Ext2 partition, floppy disks, or HTTP/FTP
servers, and runs entirely in RAM.  

Sounds interesting.
Cheers,
Carol^

[newbie] MDK 7.2 Beta3

[Robin Regennitter]

Hi

Mandrake has just released 7.2 Beta #3 today.

Rob

Re: [newbie] How to add shortcuts to KDE desktop

[Larry Marshall]

> I so embarrased about asking this but how do I add a shortcut to the KDE
> desktop.  Do I right click and select New -> Application?  It says
> Program.kdelnk, but I'm not sure what to do with it.  Do I replace that is
> /usr/bin/foo or something?

You know that old quote about no bad questions...it applies here. 
You're heading down the right road, it's just a bit cryptic.

1) Once the dialog is up there and you're looking at Program.kdelnk,
change the "Program" part to be the name you want displayed below the
icon.

2) Under the Execute tab you'll have another dialog and you need to
type the name of the executable (and path) and any commandline stuff
you need/want.

3) Click on the icon and choose what icon you want associated with
this app.

4) Press Ok.

You're done.  That Program.kdelnk confused the heck out of me the
first time I saw it :-)

Cheers --- Larry

[newbie] install from hard drive

[Jason Jesso]

I am currently running Redhat Linux 6.2 and I want to install Linux
Mandrake instead. How can I install Linux Mandrake from an existing file

system on an existing linux distro.

What do I name the directories to where I download the distro:
e.g. Mandrake/RPMS and
   Mandrake/base

Also make a boot disk for installation process.

??  I am I right here? Is there any documentation on how to do this?

Thanks

--
Jason Jesso

Re: [newbie] Setting the time

[Robin Regennitter]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
you can go to Configuration->other->LinuxConf to set up the right time.  but yo
have to be root to do it.  You can also go to DrakConf and do su on it then
go to Linuxconf.  Also  if you want it in am/pm   assuming you are using KDE
then you can go to kde-> desktop -> panel.


> Hello.
> 
> I have a quick one for whoever is interested.  How do I set the time?  I 
> know I set my time zone correctly when I installed Linux, but for some 
> reason my clock is off by 3 hours.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Phil
> 
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Re: [newbie] Setting the time

[Larry Marshall]

> I have a quick one for whoever is interested.  How do I set the time?  I
> know I set my time zone correctly when I installed Linux, but for some
> reason my clock is off by 3 hours.

Hi Phil,

Try "linuxconf" and then click on the "Control" tab.  You should see
an option to set the date and time.  You must do this as root.

Cheers --- Larry

Re: [newbie] Setting the time

[Renaud OLGIATI]

Did you tell it to store the time as GMT ?

That could explain it !

Cheers,

Ron the Frog, on the sunny banks of the Paraguay River.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Philip Ferguson wrote: > Hello.
> 
> I have a quick one for whoever is interested.  How do I set the time?  I 
> know I set my time zone correctly when I installed Linux, but for some 
> reason my clock is off by 3 hours.
-- 
 
Everybody wants to go to heaven,
but nobody wants to die.
 
  ---  http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati  ---
 

Re: [newbie] only root can play CDs?

[abe]

it was all cdplaying softwares.  I got it "fixed" by upgrading to kde
1.94.  ANyway, I am curious what do you think could have been done to
fix it without such drastic measures?


Abe


Francois Swanepoel wrote:
> 
> Is it only XMMS or is it the other CD players as well?
> It could be a file permissions problem, but I need more information.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> abe wrote:
> >
> > What could be wrong that only root on my machine can play cds?  system
> > sounds, .wav files, & MP3s all play for other users but not CDs.  Xmms
> > reads the disk and refuses to play.  Please help, I cannot work without
> > music.
> >
> > Abe
> 
> --
> Francois Swanepoel
> AIX, HACMP and ADSM System Administrator
> Tel: +2673616961
> Fax: +267304144

RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh

[Josh Shirey]

No problemo.  Yeah, I reran the rebuild command again and same
thing. You know I renamed the packages.rpm to packages.bak(don't know if I
was supposed to do that or not) and tried running the rpm -Uvh and it told
me that a bunch of dependiences failed.  Are the dependiences that it is
refering to in the packages.rpm.  May I ask what specifically you had to do
to upgrade to 4.01.  I need 4.0.1 to be able to get full use out of my video
card and to play quake 3. 

Thanks.

joshs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh


Sorry Josh - I should have been more specific and asked did you run the 
rebuild *again*, after you updated to the 4.0 version ? Does running 
kpackage or rpmdrake give the same database error ?
I had upgraded to the 4.01 a little while ago and I was pretty sure there 
was more than one RPM to install, not that it should be causing the problem 
you are seeing .

philomena

At 10:20 AM 9/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Ok.  I've loaded 4.0 version of rpm and I am still getting the error when
>trying to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm "An rpm in db1 format exists in
>/var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running "rpm
>--rebuilddb" as root.  What is db1 and db3 format's?  Thanks...
>
>Josh
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:49 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
>
>
>www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
>
>
>look there, there should be new RPM's for Mandrake :P (*hint* i586)
>makes RPM browsing so much faster
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Josh Shirey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:41 AM
>Subject: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi, I am running MD 7.  I'm trying to update/install XFree86.4.0.1
> > as a single 15 meg rpm.  I was told to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm and I
>should
> > be good to go but I an running into this error message and I don't know
>what
> > to do next.  The error message I'm getting is "An rpm in db1 format
exists
> > in /var/lib/rpm/parckages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running
>"rpm
> > --rebuilddb" as root."  I do the rpm --rebuilddb and it acts like it
does
> > something but when I go back and try rpm -Uvh filename.rpm it gives me
the
> > same error message. When i do a rpm -q I see that I am running version
>3.0.
> > Could the version of rpm I am running be my problem and if so how and
>where
> > would I go to update my version of rpm for MD.
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> > josh
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [newbie] network, 3c905b problem

[Jeffrey P. Jolma]

Fixed.  Thanks Benjamin.  I used the 3com diagnostics tool (3c90xcfg.exe)from a DOS prompt.  At first it gave me an error, so I disabled plug and play in the bios.  Then I went back into the diagnostics tool and changed the speed to 10MB.  Now it works!

thanks
jeff

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Robin Regennitter]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:

Yeah  I have uninstalled the old version and installed the new one.   Actually,
Netscape doesnt crash when I only have one or two navigator open.  But any more
than that will more likely to crash or freezes all my navigators.   I have a
tendency to open a lot of navigator all at once.  I dont use communicator as I
use Kmail as my mail.  I dont even have Communicator installed.  I like it that
way.

Rob

> Larry Marshall wrote:
> > 
> > > to the windoze that crashes a lot or freezes.  hardly had any crashes except for 
>that darn Netscape.  That program itself crashes but not the system.
> > 
> > Ah...I'm not alone :-)  While doing mail with Netscape I've had it
> > freeze everything tighter than a drum...twice.  Couldn't kill X,
> > couldn't do nothing.
> > 
> > Cheers --- Larry
> 
> Netscape-- download version 4.75 - remember to uninstall your current
> version before installing the new version. All of your current settings
> etc are retained.
> 
> Netscape has not crashed on me since upgrading..
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> -- 
> ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
> (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)

Re: [newbie] Good book

[flupke]

On 22 Sep 2000, ed wrote:

> HI all I am wondering if anybody knows of a good linux security book
>   that will explain firewalls,ports,scaners..etc... To use to secure my linux
> box and learn more about security. thanks in advance.

You can already start, without spending any money, by reading the
security-HOWTO and the NAG (Network Administrator's Guide).
I even wonder if those are not part of the distribution (but I'm not
sure...). If it's not the case, a search at www.google.com should lead you
to the right place.

HTH
Flupke

-- 
<< There's no place like ~ ! >>

RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Robin Regennitter]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:

I have a e-machine 533 mhz celeron.  With Cirrus Logic CrystalClear and CD-RW. 
and it had installed like a charm.  The only thing that it didnt work is the
moden.  I forgot what the name of it is but I know it's a winmodem.   I had to
get the external modem-blaster and that worked great.

Rob

> Does anyone know if there is a site with a list of successful machine
> configurations that are running Linux in general or Mandrake in specific.  I
> flat out could not get Mandrake to install the first time on a Gigabyte mobo
> and a plextor cd-rom.  After switching out the cd-rom, I got Mandrake
> installed but the network wouldn't work at all. I bought a new hard drive
> and installed Mandrake on my DELL and everything is working except my
> SoundBlaster and I had to use a Linksys NIC (Netgear proved to be too
> problematic in my mental state). Besides that on the DELL everything
> installed a hitch the first time.  I need to get it off the DELL onto a
> dedicated machine, but I don't want to go through the expense of buying a
> mobo that won't work with my various periphials.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 too many bugs
> 
> 
> Hi, what kind of cpu, motherboard chipset, and other
> cards do you have in your machine? how much ram?
> and did you hand build it or buy pre-built?
> 
> Sorry for so many questions, I hear different opinions
> about the new MDK 7.1 and am trying to collect
> opinions/mahcine configs so I can decide for myself.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > > > My opinion of Mandrake 7.1 is that alot of the applications/services
> are
> > > > just to buggy and not thoroughly tested before release. I would
> suggest if
> > > > you like Mandrake to get a copy of 7.02 and alot of problems will go
> away.
> > > 
> > > John...could you be a bit more specific?  I haven't had many problems
> > > with 7.1 (though Netscape has crashed my system hard twice).  Maybe
> > > I'm not trying hard enough (grin).  
> > > 
> > > Cheers --- Larry
> > -- 
> > In reference to 7.1 being buggy, I disagree intensely.  Netscape does
> crash a
> > bit too much, but still not as much as Internet Exploder from Microcrap.
> In
> > fact, 7.0 gave me problems that were annoying and the upgrade to 7.1 fixed
> all
> > of them and the amount of apps pre-installed in 7.1 is mind-boggling.  
> > 
> > 
> > Jay
> > "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your
> heart with gladness, that stays forever after."
> > "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend."
> > http://www.mrsnooky.com

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Paul]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vic wrote:

>I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
>systems tend to run better than a pre-built 
>PC bought at like either "?triangle" or 
>"?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
>
>I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
>seems to run better than my roommate's 
>pre-built system.

I have 2 machines here, a PentiumII/400 handbuilt, and a P-II/350
pre-built. Mandrake 7.1 runs fine on both of them. I think it is more a
matter of having more or less well supported hardware than where the
system comes from. When I stick a winmodem into the handbuilt, it won't
run. When I hook up the old 28.8K external  modem to the ttyS1 port of the
prebuilt, it will run.

Paul

--
Do they ever shut up on your planet?

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
  -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-

[newbie] Volume on SB

[Paul]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Larry Marshall wrote:

>Did you have any problems with volumn on your SB Live card?  I was
>talking to a neophyte Linux buddy of mine yesterday and when we
>installed 7.1 for him it recognized his SB Live card just fine.  But
>he reported to me yesterday that he has no control over volume and
>that it's LOUD!  He's tried kdemixer and tried turning the volume down
>in xmms.  Neither seem to affect the volume?  Any ideas?  

aumix should be able to help here...

Paul

--
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http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
  -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-

Re: [newbie] Setting the time

[Michael]

You can use date to set the date/time. I use rdate which syncs it to a
time server (time.missouri.edu for me). Many other ways exist but those
are the two most common probably.

*^*^*^*
Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
 on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
pickles at you? -- Real Genius

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Philip Ferguson wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I have a quick one for whoever is interested.  How do I set the time?  I 
> know I set my time zone correctly when I installed Linux, but for some 
> reason my clock is off by 3 hours.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Phil
> 
> _
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Re: [newbie] Odd Problem

[Michael]

How did you partition the drive? I haven't heard of it failing to install
the bootloader before but it might if /boot wasn't in a usable spot. It
should still make floppies though. Did you try killing all your partitions
with fdisk (Linux or DOS) and then installing?

*^*^*^*
Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
 on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
pickles at you? -- Real Genius

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Phillip L. Gillis wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> I did a reinstall of 7.1 since I wanted a "fresh" copy after my initial learning 
>experiences. Anyway, I did a Development box custom install and everything seemed to 
>be going good as usual ( I already knew all of my settings since I had just had an 
>install going ) . .anyway after the installer loaded my selected packages - all 100% 
>of them - it went to the section where it creates a floppy . .it failed in creating 
>the floppy . .no matter what I did, it failed. So I cancelled the making of the 
>floppy and it went to the bootloader section for Grub an Lilo . .last time I didn't 
>really have to do anything here but keep the defaults and it flew like a charm . 
>.this time, NOTHING would let it create the bootloader. It kept saying Lilo failed 
>and would return to the same dialog box . over and over again.
> 
> It ultimately continued until I just rebooted from the boot floppy that came with 
>the 7.1 purchase and tried again . .this failing process continued to happen about 3 
>more times. I started thinking maybe since I had an install a few hours earlier on 
>the drive that maybe I should just bleem it then try to reinstall Linux. Did the 
>previous install do something to the drive that is preventing a new install of Linux 
>from happening properly? What should I do?
> 
> I used an install of Win2K to now partition and reformat the drive. I went ahead and 
>installed Win2K just to test my theory and went back to  Linux to install on a 
>partition that Win2K made. This time, everything on the Linux installed went fine 
>under a workstation / custom install except I couldn't get my NIC working ( this is 
>what I originally did and it was silk ) . but I am sure I botched that up in the conf 
>. .anyway . .I intend on going back and zapping the drive again because I don't want 
>Win 2K on it and want the whole 15GB to learn Linux or I may do a multiboot, but my 
>question really is did the first install of Linux do something to the drive that the 
>second install would not clear up? My problem seemed with not being able to write the 
>boot floppy and bombing on the Grub / Lilo went away after Windows reformatted the 
>drive? Am I missing something . Linux is new to me but I need out of Win32 in a bad 
>way . . any comments would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 

RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh

[Paul]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Philomena wrote:

Yes, he did. He already wrote that he did.
Perhaps the best way to do:

download the new RPM, as Adam wrote below, from
www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
and then do the rpm --dbrebuild
That could get something going. At least, I hope!

Paul

>Did you do as the error message recommended and rebuild your RPM database ?
>
>philomena
>At 10:20 AM 9/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Ok.  I've loaded 4.0 version of rpm and I am still getting the error when
>>trying to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm "An rpm in db1 format exists in
>>/var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running "rpm
>>--rebuilddb" as root.  What is db1 and db3 format's?  Thanks...
>>
>>Josh
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:49 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh
>>
>>
>>www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html
>>look there, there should be new RPM's for Mandrake :P (*hint* i586)
>>makes RPM browsing so much faster


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  -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-

Re: [newbie] How to add shortcuts to KDE desktop

[Roger Sherman]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> I so embarrased about asking this but how do I add a shortcut to the KDE
> desktop.  Do I right click and select New -> Application?  It says
> Program.kdelnk, but I'm not sure what to do with it.  Do I replace that is
> /usr/bin/foo or something?

What I do is I right click on the desktop while in KDE, a box pops up that has
Program.kdelnk entered in the field. Hit OK, or go, or whatever the button
says. Another box comes up, with several tabs across the top. Hit the one that
says Execute. There will be a Browse button - click on that, find the
application that you want, and there you go. You can click on the gear icon
that will be shown on the same window to use a different icon if you don't like
the gear.


-- 

peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Austin L. Denyer]

> Netscape has some nasty memory leaks especially for people who use
forms a
> lot (web mail) and on systems without enough memory it can, and often
does
> flood all avail memory until the box crashes.

Tell me about it.  The last time NutScrape crashed on me it locked X
tighter than a duck's a$$ and required hitting the Big Red Switch.  The
resulting filesystem damage screwed everything so completely that I
ended up doing a full re-install of Linux!

> Limit the amount of memory
> it can use to something like 32M and it'll run just as well as normal
and
> when it crashes it'll just kill itself rather than messing the rest of
the
> system up.

How do I do that?

Regards,
Ozz.

Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Michael]

Netscape has some nasty memory leaks especially for people who use forms a
lot (web mail) and on systems without enough memory it can, and often does
flood all avail memory until the box crashes. Limit the amount of memory
it can use to something like 32M and it'll run just as well as normal and
when it crashes it'll just kill itself rather than messing the rest of the
system up. Upgrading to the msot recent version reduces the crashes
experienced but it's still annoying. Luckily Mozilla is doing much better
in that area. :)

*^*^*^*
Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
 on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
pickles at you? -- Real Genius

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Patti Wavinak wrote:

> 
> Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better. 
> Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not 
> experiencing the problems that others are :-)
> 
> And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never 
> bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned. 
> I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually 
> when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when 
> I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or 
> Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself.
> 
> Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611
> 
> The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal 
> itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it. 
> 
> >> Original Message <<
> 
> On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding 
> [newbie] Is it my imagination or--:
> 
> 
> > Hello Linuxers.
> 
> > I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> > systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> > PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> > "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?
> 
> > I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> > seems to run better than my roommate's
> > pre-built system.
> 

[newbie] Odd Problem

[Phillip L. Gillis]

Hey,
 
I did a reinstall of 7.1 since I wanted a "fresh" 
copy after my initial learning experiences. Anyway, I did a Development box 
custom install and everything seemed to be going good as usual ( I already knew 
all of my settings since I had just had an install going ) . .anyway after the 
installer loaded my selected packages - all 100% of them - it went to the 
section where it creates a floppy . .it failed in creating the floppy . .no 
matter what I did, it failed. So I cancelled the making of the floppy and it 
went to the bootloader section for Grub an Lilo . .last time I didn't really 
have to do anything here but keep the defaults and it flew like a charm . .this 
time, NOTHING would let it create the bootloader. It kept saying Lilo failed and 
would return to the same dialog box . over and over again.
 
It ultimately continued until I just rebooted from 
the boot floppy that came with the 7.1 purchase and tried again . .this failing 
process continued to happen about 3 more times. I started thinking maybe since I 
had an install a few hours earlier on the drive that maybe I should just bleem 
it then try to reinstall Linux. Did the previous install do something to the 
drive that is preventing a new install of Linux from happening properly? What 
should I do?
 
I used an install of Win2K to now partition and 
reformat the drive. I went ahead and installed Win2K just to test my theory and 
went back to  Linux to install on a partition that Win2K made. This time, 
everything on the Linux installed went fine under a workstation / custom install 
except I couldn't get my NIC working ( this is what I originally did and it was 
silk ) . but I am sure I botched that up in the conf . .anyway . .I intend on 
going back and zapping the drive again because I don't want Win 2K on it and 
want the whole 15GB to learn Linux or I may do a multiboot, but my question 
really is did the first install of Linux do something to the drive that the 
second install would not clear up? My problem seemed with not being able to 
write the boot floppy and bombing on the Grub / Lilo went away after Windows 
reformatted the drive? Am I missing something . Linux is new to me but I need 
out of Win32 in a bad way . . any comments would be greatly 
appreciated.
 
 
Thanks,
 
Phil
 
 

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[John Rye]

Mark Johnson wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a site with a list of successful machine
> configurations that are running Linux in general or Mandrake in specific.  I
> flat out could not get Mandrake to install the first time on a Gigabyte mobo
> and a plextor cd-rom.  After switching out the cd-rom, I got Mandrake
> installed but the network wouldn't work at all. I bought a new hard drive
> and installed Mandrake on my DELL and everything is working except my
> SoundBlaster and I had to use a Linksys NIC (Netgear proved to be too
> problematic in my mental state). Besides that on the DELL everything
> installed a hitch the first time.  I need to get it off the DELL onto a
> dedicated machine, but I don't want to go through the expense of buying a
> mobo that won't work with my various periphials.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 too many bugs
> 
> Hi, what kind of cpu, motherboard chipset, and other
> cards do you have in your machine? how much ram?
> and did you hand build it or buy pre-built?
> 
> Sorry for so many questions, I hear different opinions
> about the new MDK 7.1 and am trying to collect
> opinions/mahcine configs so I can decide for myself.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > > > My opinion of Mandrake 7.1 is that alot of the applications/services
> are
> > > > just to buggy and not thoroughly tested before release. I would
> suggest if
> > > > you like Mandrake to get a copy of 7.02 and alot of problems will go
> away.
> > >
> > > John...could you be a bit more specific?  I haven't had many problems
> > > with 7.1 (though Netscape has crashed my system hard twice).  Maybe
> > > I'm not trying hard enough (grin).
> > >
> > > Cheers --- Larry
> > --
> > In reference to 7.1 being buggy, I disagree intensely.  Netscape does
> crash a
> > bit too much, but still not as much as Internet Exploder from Microcrap.
> In
> > fact, 7.0 gave me problems that were annoying and the upgrade to 7.1 fixed
> all
> > of them and the amount of apps pre-installed in 7.1 is mind-boggling.
> >
> >
> > Jay
> > "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your
> heart with gladness, that stays forever after."
> > "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend."
> > http://www.mrsnooky.com

Mark.

A suggestion...

Before going down the track of installing on that machine - may I
suggest
that you list the items of hardware you have on the mobo (FCC numbers,
serial
numbers, manufacturers part names - the whole kit and caboodle.)

Then using your favourite search engine go find at much info as you can
about each component in relation to linux support.

I run a pretty old pentium 133 on a soyo mobo with a bunch of cards
begged, borrowed, stolen (sic), scrounged and generally collected over
a number of years.

Using the technique above BEFORE my first Linux installation (L-M 6.1),
I was able to find drivers and other info for the system so that I could
tweak, coach and maybe sledhammer into operation if needed.

Another usefull bit of doco is that you can get out of the Windows
ControlPanel -> System -> Print option - It will give you an extensive
list of what is glued to who which you can use as an encoragement for
the sledhammer !!! 

Cheers.
-- 
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"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
(The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[John Rye]

Larry Marshall wrote:
> 
> > from my own carelessness or, for lack of a better word, my own stupidity.
> > I did my homework, asked questions (and listened to answers), read books,
> > absorbed how-to's, went to websites, etc.
> 
> I prefer to call it "my ignorance"...except for the stupid times :-)
> 
> > LM 7.1 has found my printer (Canon BJ-6000), my soundcard (SB Live), my
> 
> Did you have any problems with volumn on your SB Live card?  I was
> talking to a neophyte Linux buddy of mine yesterday and when we
> installed 7.1 for him it recognized his SB Live card just fine.  But
> he reported to me yesterday that he has no control over volume and
> that it's LOUD!  He's tried kdemixer and tried turning the volume down
> in xmms.  Neither seem to affect the volume?  Any ideas?
> 
> I hate these problems that I've never had...then again, not having
> them is good too :-)
> 
> Cheers --- Larry

Sound volume control is a frequent problem for new users..

Ok from a terminal 'aumix'
move the pointer to the level you prefer (I found 30 to 50% was about
right for me.)
Tap the 's' key to save the results. This leaves a file called
'.aumixrc'
in the your home directory.

Now copy that file to /etc - 

'cp ./.aumixrc /etc/aumixrc'  (lose quotes)
Note that I removed the invisibility '.' in the process.

'chown root.root /etc/aumixrc' (lose quotes)

Edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local and add the line 'aumix -L' (lose quotes) to the
very end of the file.

That should fix it.

Cheers
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"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[John Rye]

Larry Marshall wrote:
> 
> > to the windoze that crashes a lot or freezes.  hardly had any crashes except for 
>that darn Netscape.  That program itself crashes but not the system.
> 
> Ah...I'm not alone :-)  While doing mail with Netscape I've had it
> freeze everything tighter than a drum...twice.  Couldn't kill X,
> couldn't do nothing.
> 
> Cheers --- Larry

Netscape-- download version 4.75 - remember to uninstall your current
version before installing the new version. All of your current settings
etc are retained.

Netscape has not crashed on me since upgrading..

Cheers


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"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
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Re: [newbie] Netgear FA310TX card in Mandrake 7.1

[John Rye]

Mark Johnson wrote:
> 
> Why is this so difficult, are the NICs (and sound cards and video cards
> etc...) so proprietary that it becomes a nightmare for the OS programmers to
> keep up?  It seems like the periphial should be self-contained and
> self-describing.
> 
> You know what would be really cool is if the vendors could actually load the
> 3 or 4 drivers (Linux, Windows, MAC, BeOS, OS2, Solaris) onto the card so
> the kernel programmer would need only to write a mechanism to query the
> periphial for its identity and to instruct it to "install" itself into the
> OS.  The OS programmers wouldn't have to keep up with all the different
> vendors NICs or whatever.  The "install mechanism" could hopefully be
> standardize so that the periphial vendor didn't have to keep up with all the
> OS crap.  It seems like a 1/2 a meg or a meg would be plenty of space to
> keep a all various OS flavors of drivers. It seems like even 4 megs are
> cheap enough these days to supply on board memory.
> 
> But anyway I suppose that would significantly increase the cost of the
> periphial because it would require vendors to spend money on the circuitry
> layout and how to actually accomplish the feat.
> 
> I guess there's still a lot of mysticism involved with building computers &
> components and the software to run them.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan LaBine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Netgear FA310TX card in Mandrake 7.1
> 
> Use the "tulip" drivers that come with Mandrake. They work perfectly with
> that exact card. I'm running 3 of them on my lan with no problems
> whatsoever.
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:06 PM
> Subject: [newbie] Netgear FA310TX card in Mandrake 7.1
> 
> > I'm having trouble installing the drivers for my Netgear FA310TX
> > card.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > dave.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stop the Iraq Sanctions!
> > www.nonviolence.org/vitw/
> >
> >

I suspect the real answer to your suggestion re all popular opsys
drivers
being on a floppy comes down the the diety called profit. Right now it
seems
the dollar is on the opsys which is making the most sales and the others
are being forgot (ignored) cause there no 'profit' in it.

My experience in recent years shows that at considerable number of
peripheral cards don't even answer to hardware identification queries.

I guess saving 256 bytes of code in a rom is a profitable exercise too..



Cheers

-- 
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"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
(The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)

Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!

[John Rye]

markOpoleO wrote:
> 
> Perhaps if you looked at my problem, you could give a helpful answer...that
> was a good reason to ignore your message last time, just like now.  "if you
> would enter the proper set- serial commands"..great, what are they?   I/o is
> 0xd400  IRQ is 10
> 



> > > > > Ok i tryed all your suggestions so far, I finally got linux to
> > > > > reconize my
> > > > > modem.  All communication programs show it working, But i still
> > > > > can't get
> > > > > kppp to dial my ISP..cause there is NO  ttyS4 listed (only
> > > > > ttyS0-ttyS3).
> > > > > Does anyone know the procedure to get Kppp to reconize ttyS4 from
> > > > > the list?
> > > >
> > > > You're looking for ttyS4 because?  If it's the equivalent of COM4 that
> > > > you're looking for, use ttyS3.  What's curious is how you know that
> > > > "all communications programs show it working" if you haven't even set
> > > > the port that it's connected to :-)
> > > >
> > > > In any case:
> > > >
> > > > com1 = ttyS0
> > > > com2 = ttyS1
> > > > com3 = ttyS2
> > > > com4 = ttyS3
> >
> >
> >  I had previously posted a response to your question. You either did
> not see it or choose to ignore it, so I will try 1 more time.
> >
> > I have an Actiontec PCI modem. In Windows the modem is on Comm5, in
> > Linux the modem is Comm4, ttyS3. THERE IS NO ttyS4.
> > If you will enter the proper set-serial commands you should have no
> > problem getting your modem to work in kppp as ttyS3.
> >  If you continue to insist on trying to set-up your modem using a
> value
> > that does not exist then you need to go out now to your nearest computer
> > store and buy an external modem, because you will NEVER be able to get
> your PCI modem to work
> >
> >
> > Charles


Mark,

Did you try my suggestion to edit your kppprc?

Did it work??

I do not intend that you consider this as a flame, ok?

Under linux the serial ports which are available to you for this purpose
are /dev/ttyS0 thru /dev/ttyS4 and /dev/modem.

That Windows is able to see the moden at Com5 is meaningless in this
situation because we are working with linux.

--

The relavant setserial commands are as follows:

'setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xd400 spd_vhi skip_test irq 10'
and
'setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A'

If entering these commands (as root) from your console has enabled
your to access the modem - then your modem has been linked to /dev/ttyS3

After you have proved the above - add those lines to the end of
/etc/rc.d/rc/local so that they are executed when your system restarts.

OK??

Now - kppp _SHOULD_ work from ttyS3 because we have assigned the modem
to that device.

If it does not then we need to look at something else which is
interferring
with it.

Right now I don't know what is doing that - I don't have enough
information.

John
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Re: [newbie] Is it my imagination or------

[Patti Wavinak]

Vic -- I tend to agree with you that the hand-built seems to run better. 
Ours are hand-built and perhaps that is one reason that I am not 
experiencing the problems that others are :-)

And in answer to Mark's email earlier -- I didn't say that Netscape never 
bombed out on me, just that it doesn't as much as others have mentioned. 
I use Linux and Netscape for my work and yes it will crash -- usually 
when I have several things going at one time -- of course it crashed when 
I was using Winblows too so I don't see it being the fault of Linux or 
Mandrake in particular but with Netscape itself.

Patti -- Registered Linux User #184611

The most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at the goal 
itself, but at some ambitious goal beyond it. 

>> Original Message <<

On 9/22/00, 4:26:12 AM, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding 
[newbie] Is it my imagination or--:


> Hello Linuxers.

> I just wondered, am I imagining it or do hand-built
> systems tend to run better than a pre-built
> PC bought at like either "?triangle" or
> "?Best Buy" or something of that ilk?

> I noticed for myself that my hand-built system
> seems to run better than my roommate's
> pre-built system.

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 ....too many bugs

[Roger Sherman]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> Hi, what kind of cpu, motherboard chipset, and other
> cards do you have in your machine? how much ram?
> and did you hand build it or buy pre-built?
> 

Compaq 5834, 500 Mhz Celeron, i810 vid chipset (didn't work with 7.0, works
like a charm with 7.1), 64 meg RAM, CD-RW, DVD (haven't tried this in Linux, but
I just got a DVD player for my TV, so Ill prolly never use the PC one again),
17 gig HD, pre-built. I'm a total newbie, but Mdk 7.1 is running flawlessly.
Once I learn a little more about it (or a lot), and find a program to adequately
replace Agent as a newsreader, Windoze is outta here!


> Sorry for so many questions, I hear different opinions
> about the new MDK 7.1 and am trying to collect
> opinions/mahcine configs so I can decide for myself.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote:
> > > > My opinion of Mandrake 7.1 is that alot of the applications/services are
> > > > just to buggy and not thoroughly tested before release. I would suggest if
> > > > you like Mandrake to get a copy of 7.02 and alot of problems will go away.
> > > 
> > > John...could you be a bit more specific?  I haven't had many problems
> > > with 7.1 (though Netscape has crashed my system hard twice).  Maybe
> > > I'm not trying hard enough (grin).  
> > > 
> > > Cheers --- Larry
> > -- 
> > In reference to 7.1 being buggy, I disagree intensely.  Netscape does crash a
> > bit too much, but still not as much as Internet Exploder from Microcrap.  In
> > fact, 7.0 gave me problems that were annoying and the upgrade to 7.1 fixed all
> > of them and the amount of apps pre-installed in 7.1 is mind-boggling.  
> > 
> > 
> > Jay
> > "May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart 
>with gladness, that stays forever after."
> > "May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend."
> > http://www.mrsnooky.com
-- 

peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com

Re: [newbie] Tech Support from Macmillan -- Personal Inquiry

[F. E. Schaper]

Hey All,

Really I think this list is a better resource than calling someone and
waiting on hold for hours on end, only to hear a stock answer or a
pre-written script. With this list you get real users who have had similar
problems who are willing to help, not only that, rather than getting one
stock or formula answer you most often get several creative options to use
to attempt to solve your issues.

This helps you to learn the O/S and the software for it more quickly and
more thoroughlyremember this is not a MicroSucks O/S...Linux users are
supposed to know what goes on behind the scenes of the O/S so that they can
control it and use it to it's fullest potential.

I think the whole idea of calling someone else the moment you have a problem
as opposed to attempting to work through it on your own really defeats the
purpose of using Linux.

Just my thoughts and thanks to all those on the list.

Fritz


- Original Message -
From: Denis Havlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Tech Support from Macmillan -- Personal Inquiry


> On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> :~>unfortunately you only get support when you buy their boxed sets, well
i got
> :~>mine out of a magazine for linux so i get no support what so ever from
> :~>Macmillan
>
> Well, one usually gets what one pays for in life... With linux, one often
> gets a bit more, but giving you 121 tech support for free is not gonna
> happen. There are folks on this list who are willing to help, there is
> mandrakeuser.org, there is mandrakeforum.com, our manuals are freely
> available for download...
>
> If you have something against boxed sets, maybe we could start selling
> ONLY support at a same price ;->
>
> cu
> Denis
>
> FYI: MacMillan is not responsible for support anymore. It is us,us, and
> again us, and if/when we come up with some shit, we'll try to fix it as
> soon as possible. Unfortunately, we are still "warming up" as far as
> support is concerned, and I expect to see problems during next few
> weeks. But we'll fix them as soon as we find them out.
> --
> -
> Dr. Denis Havlik
> Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
> The mailserver is on strike. It wants better working conditions,
> paid days off and a female connector. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>

RE: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh

[Josh Shirey]

Ok.  I've loaded 4.0 version of rpm and I am still getting the error when
trying to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm "An rpm in db1 format exists in
/var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running "rpm
--rebuilddb" as root.  What is db1 and db3 format's?  Thanks...

Josh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh


www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/RByName.html


look there, there should be new RPM's for Mandrake :P (*hint* i586)
makes RPM browsing so much faster

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Shirey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:41 AM
Subject: [newbie] Trying to do a rpm -Uvh


>
>
> Hi, I am running MD 7.  I'm trying to update/install XFree86.4.0.1
> as a single 15 meg rpm.  I was told to do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm and I
should
> be good to go but I an running into this error message and I don't know
what
> to do next.  The error message I'm getting is "An rpm in db1 format exists
> in /var/lib/rpm/parckages.rpm.  Please convert to db3 format by running
"rpm
> --rebuilddb" as root."  I do the rpm --rebuilddb and it acts like it does
> something but when I go back and try rpm -Uvh filename.rpm it gives me the
> same error message. When i do a rpm -q I see that I am running version
3.0.
> Could the version of rpm I am running be my problem and if so how and
where
> would I go to update my version of rpm for MD.
>
> Thanks...
>
> josh
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] How do you turn off automatic dependencies?

[Charles A Edwards]

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How do you turn off automatic dependencies?


> John I. Azeke wrote:
>
> > I was trying to update some programs with Mandrake Update and The
> > automatic dependencies kepp on selecting all the updates.  If I do not
> > want all of the updates to automatically download and install, how do I
> > stop automatic dependencies from taking over.  I believe this was set
> > during install of Mandrake 7.1 and did not know that it was for anything
> > other than installation.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> If you don't download the dependency then you're not going to be able to
> get the other files to install. That's why it's selecting the other
> files. The main file is "dependent" on them.
>

  John
   Part of the problem is the Mandrake Update that was included in 7.1
   Go to one of the mirror sites and from the 7.1 Update dir. download the
Mandrake Update 7.1-9 Rpm.
   After it is installed you can update most without everything being
selected as a dependency. For those couple where this is still a problem
they can be downloaded and installed as you did Mandrake Update.

   Charles

Re: [newbie] unsubscribe

[iramirez]

[newbie] mp3 audio

[shooter]

My mp3s are recorded off my cds in 160kbps and sound nearly perfect in windows.  
however, in linux with xmms, the sound quality degrades horribly.  cymbals sound like 
garbage can lids and people sound like they are in garbage cans.  i already checked, 
and the effect plugins are not enabled.  i am currently using  the  OSS Driver 1.0.1 
for my output plugin.  if anyone could help, i would greatly appreciate it.
greg



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RE: [newbie] sound and KDM graphical login manager

[Francisco Alcaraz Ariza]

I had similar problems with Mandrake 7.1 about X; I always did the
installation using graphics mode and Mandrake recognised well my monitor
type and video card but... it was impossible to run linux in graphic mode.
But two days ago I tried the text installation and ¡surprise! with the same
monitor and video selection it works fine.
I must say that with 7.0 version the graphics installation worked OK!!!
¡extrange world the computer one!



-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fecha: jueves, 21 de septiembre de 2000 21:40
Asunto: Re: [newbie] sound and KDM graphical login manager


>Dear Alan and All, After my computer crash I erased the Linux partitions
and
>did a clean install of Linux. Everything went well until I came to
>configuring X. I believe I just chose the wrong monitor and went into the
>Xconfigurator and finally after many attempts got the right settings.
>Everything is working well except for what I told you about sound and
>graphical login. Even so, you may be correct about reinstalling the
>Linux-Mandrake 7. I will consider that if I do not get these things fixed.
>Thank you for the good advice. Sincerely, Marcia
>
>

Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!

[Charles A Edwards]

- Original Message -
From: "markOpoleO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!


> Perhaps if you looked at my problem, you could give a helpful
answer...that
> was a good reason to ignore your message last time, just like now.  "if
you
> would enter the proper set- serial commands"..great, what are they?   I/o
is
> 0xd400  IRQ is 10
>
> markOpoleO
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles A Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] ttyS4 problem still!
>
>
> >
 > >
> >
> >  I had previously posted a response to your question. You either did
> not
> > see it or choose to ignore it, so I will try 1 more time.
> >
> > I have an Actiontec PCI modem. In Windows the modem is on Comm5, in
> > Linux the modem is Comm4, ttyS3. THERE IS NO ttyS4.
> > If you will enter the proper set-serial commands you should have no
> > problem getting your modem to work in kppp as ttyS3.
> >  If you continue to insist on trying to set-up your modem using a
> value
> > that does not exist then you need to go out now to your nearest computer
> > store and buy an external modem, because you will NEVER be able to get
> your
> > PCI modem to work
> >

I have posted the the the commands to the list at least a half dozen times
but here they are again.

# setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xd400 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig
If there are no errors, then enter
# setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A

Select /dev/ttyS3 as the device in kppp and your modem should now
initalizeand operate.
To make this perm. you will need to edit your rc.local file which is located
in the /etc/rc.d directory. Add the 2 setserial lines to the end of this
file Save the changes and reboot your system.

   Charles

Re: [newbie] Netgear FA310TX card in Mandrake 7.1

[Dan LaBine]

You know what they say,.In a perfect world, evryone would eat 2 eggs a
day, and drive a Saturn. I think that self-loading driver chips would be a
little too perfect ! Great idea, but too much to hope for !

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Netgear FA310TX card in Mandrake 7.1


> Why is this so difficult, are the NICs (and sound cards and video cards
> etc...) so proprietary that it becomes a nightmare for the OS programmers
to
> keep up?  It seems like the periphial should be self-contained and
> self-describing.
>
> You know what would be really cool is if the vendors could actually load
the
> 3 or 4 drivers (Linux, Windows, MAC, BeOS, OS2, Solaris) onto the card so
> the kernel programmer would need only to write a mechanism to query the
> periphial for its identity and to instruct it to "install" itself into the
> OS.  The OS programmers wouldn't have to keep up with all the different
> vendors NICs or whatever.  The "install mechanism" could hopefully be
> standardize so that the periphial vendor didn't have to keep up with all
the
> OS crap.  It seems like a 1/2 a meg or a meg would be plenty of space to
> keep a all various OS flavors of drivers. It seems like even 4 megs are
> cheap enough these days to supply on board memory.
>
> But anyway I suppose that would significantly increase the cost of the
> periphial because it would require vendors to spend money on the circuitry
> layout and how to actually accomplish the feat.
>
> I guess there's still a lot of mysticism involved with building computers
&
> components and the software to run them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan LaBine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Netgear FA310TX card in Mandrake 7.1
>
>
> Use the "tulip" drivers that come with Mandrake. They work perfectly with
> that exact card. I'm running 3 of them on my lan with no problems
> whatsoever.
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:06 PM
> Subject: [newbie] Netgear FA310TX card in Mandrake 7.1
>
>
> > I'm having trouble installing the drivers for my Netgear FA310TX
> > card.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > dave.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stop the Iraq Sanctions!
> > www.nonviolence.org/vitw/
> >
> >
>
>

[newbie] Good book

[ed]

HI all I am wondering if anybody knows of a good linux security book
  that will explain firewalls,ports,scaners..etc... To use to secure my linux
box and learn more about security. thanks in advance.


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