Re: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"

2000-11-24 Thread eryl

On Friday 24 November 2000 23:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 4x lmfao and you wonder why it took so long takes about 22 mins on my
> machine for full install
>
> > ** Original Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"
> > ** Original Sender: eryl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:16 -0600
> >
> > ** Original Message follows...
> >
> >
> > I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both
> > installs took 3 HOURS!  

WOW!  Now I'm really wondering what went on with my boxes!  And whatever 
it was, they both did the same thing.  Anyone else have any insight into this?




Re: [newbie] Wrong graphical startup?

2000-11-24 Thread eryl

On Friday 24 November 2000 09:39, you wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> I've started Linux this morning with no problems, used it and shut it
> down... this afternoon i've turned on the computer and get a graphical
> screen asking me for my user name, password and window manager... but...
> the user icons weren't there, and the screen was a bit different.  I've
> keyed in the user name and pwd and pressed ok.
>
> I've got then a graphical screen with no icons and a terminal window
> opened.  The menues of the menu bar were different.
>
>
Is it possible you're starting on a different virtual desktop from the 
orginial one?  If you were on the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th and your "save settings" 
box was checked at logout I think there is a possibility that could have 
happened.

remember, I've been wrong before.

Eryl




Re: [newbie]vmware and Xfree86v.4

2000-11-24 Thread Marcia

Dear Rich, Yes it works with 3.3.6, I believe. Someone on this list just
gave me some instructions upon how to install that as opposed to 4. I
will probably consider that option eventually. Marcia




RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"

2000-11-24 Thread eschbach

4x lmfao and you wonder why it took so long takes about 22 mins on my machine for full 
install


> ** Original Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"
> ** Original Sender: eryl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:16 -0600

> ** Original Message follows... 

>
> I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both 
> installs took 3 HOURS!  These boxes are probably minimum, P200mmx with 64M of 
> ram and scsi 9 gig drives with 50x ATAPI cdroms.  Three hours seems out of 
> line for an install on a clean, formatted HD--at least to me.  The longest 
> 7.1 took was 70 minutes, or so--I was using scsi 4X cd's with those, though.  
> Would a scsi CD make that much difference?
> 
> So far, kde2 is definitely prettier than its predecessors, and a bit slower 
> to load.  Apps are somewhat slower to load too (ala Win98)--I guess that's 
> the payment for the eye candy.  Some stuff is not totally stable, imo.  So 
> far my crashes have only happened when I CLOSED an app, never while running 
> one or while loading one.  I get a consistent crash when I close the 
> background manager if I choose a background from a source other than kde's 
> default sourcefile, and I get the "app has crashed" window when I close any 
> Gnome game that I'm running in kde.  Minor annoyances, but I don't think I'll 
> do any more 7.2 installs until the bugfixes come in the next month or so.
> 
> CUPS was kind of a headache for me, but I've got it figured out now.  In 
> fact, I think I like it, now I've got the StarOffice printing sorted out.  
> Like anything new it requires some getting used to.
> 
> My one real complaint is the Konquerer network ran really slow copying from 
> Windows machines to the 7.2 machines.  I don't have a clue why, it was fine 
> going from Linux box to Linux box.  I installed the LinNeighborhood rpm and 
> now both Linux and Windows files copy fast.  Anyone know why this happened to 
> me?  Has it happened to anyone else, and if so, how did you fix it?
> 
> Eryl


>** - End Original Message --- **

> 

]XAN[animalTK





[newbie] playmidi not working

2000-11-24 Thread KompuKit

I have 7.2 installed (store version)
I can play wavs,mp3s...and hear them...
but when I bringup a webpage (I'm certain)
has midi files playing...
a window pops up...saying the following:

"open /dev/sequencer:  no such device
playmidi 2.4 copywrite...etcetc."

I've got plugger installed...with netscape 4.75

how do I fix this??
-- 
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Re: [newbie]vmware and Xfree86v.4

2000-11-24 Thread Oliver L. Plaine Jr.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:25:10 -0500, you wrote:

>   Dear All, I just found out that vmware does not work with the new
>Xfree86 version 4. I have already paid $99 for it and downloaded it.
>What would be the best thing to do now? I definitely wish to use it.
>Thanks for your help. Marcia

Fri, 24 Nov 2000  22:48:52

Since you already spent the money Marcia, and you do want the program,
one option would be to reinstall and elect not to use version
four...the expert install I know, gives you that choice...

One word of caution from someone who did an all nighter with
7.2 saturday .

As soon as the partitioning program reads your table and gives
the panel to make the first change...Immediatly stick in a blank
floppy and hit the save to floppy button...this will make a copy of
the table that you can recover to, when the thing freezes.

There is something bad wrong with it, as I have heard too many
tales of woe..on this very listone is going on right now.

In my case it would freeze and I would have to hit reset to
boot back to the CD...at that time the partition table is  GONE..work
forward to the panel again and hit restore from floppy and you will be
fine again.

I never got past building an extended partition, nothing could
be put in it? although I gave it many tries..thanks to the
floppy..
I finally wound up using the wizard and it did OK but the
partitions are where he wants them and not like I wanted them.

I am so glad I did not have to reinstall M$.. if I didn't have
that little backup, I would have likely went off the building...and
that would not have worked either as I live in a one story 8-).

Olly P
Biloxi
Mississippi




[newbie] hdparm utility

2000-11-24 Thread Barry Premeaux

Found an interesting article on hdparm.
The article stresses extreme caution in using it.
I recommend using hdparm -v /dev/hda (put in your IDE drive)
to find your current settings.  I was able to get the
buffered disk reads up from 11.5 MB/sec to 13.7 MB/sec.
Didn't think that would be much of an improvement, but
application loads were noticeably quicker.  Netscape
downloads seem to have improved somewhat as well.

Don't think I'll try and push it any further though. 


http://oreilly.linux.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html

Barry :-)




Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?

2000-11-24 Thread Eddie Torres

On Friday 24 November 2000 21:16, you wrote:
> Anyone with windows installed on the front partitions that are
> migrating over to mandrake will probably appreciate grup as it
> overcomes the 1024 cylinder limitation of lilo. A few weeks ago I
> went to onstall SuSE over my mandrake partitions. Since it uses lilo
> and my boot partition was outside the 1024 boundary I had so readjust
> some of my windows/data partitions before I could install. And that
> isn't as easy to do in SuSE as it is with mandrake using DiskDrake. I
> have since moved back to mandrake for a lot of similar reasons.
>
> Nev
>
> Jim Anderson wrote:
> > According to something I saw on the l-m site, GRUB is now the
> > default bootloader for Linux-Mandrake 7.2, but LILO is optional in
> > an Expert install.
> >
> > - jim
> >
> > On 11/24/00 12:03 PM, philomena spoke the words:
> > >I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on
> > > the fly and try them out without having to remember to run lilo
> > > to effect your changes, and to make the changes permanent you
> > > simply edit the menu file- again, as soon as you save your
> > > changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have heard that
> > > the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but
> > > I'm
> > >sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and
> > > grub are not that great - more just a matter of slight
> > > preferences.
> > >
> > >philomena
> > >
> > >On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote:
> > >> I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not
> > >> familiar with grub.  Why would one want to use grub instead
> > >> of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere?
> > >> --doug
> > >>
> > >> At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote:
> > >> >On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote:
> > >> >>Ok, here today's question.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I
> > >> >> used the rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is
> > >> >> however, using LILO to boot. How can I get it back to grub?
> > >> >
> > >> >Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run  ./install.sh
> > >> >Next boot you'll see grub again
> > >> >
> > >> >Paul

Newer versions of lilo (don't know the number sorry) don't have the 
1024th cylinder limitation.
-- 
Eddie Torress
www.veloct.net




Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last

2000-11-24 Thread Romanator

Very nice.

Roman

Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:
> 
> Cool web pages!  I was going to read the review, but got side tracked on how
> nice the web designing was  - just wanted to tell you.
> 
> Mike
> 
> > i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and
> > some screen shots on my web site.  Applix claims (i can't really say for
> > sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something
> > ported.  i found
> > it mostly useable...  a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so
> > far it is the best of what i have seen.  the review is at:
> > >
> > >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm
> > >
> > >later dayz..
> > >
> > >Adrian Smith
> > >'de telepone dude
> > >Telecom Dept.
> > >x 7042
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293




[newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff"

2000-11-24 Thread eryl


I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both 
installs took 3 HOURS!  These boxes are probably minimum, P200mmx with 64M of 
ram and scsi 9 gig drives with 50x ATAPI cdroms.  Three hours seems out of 
line for an install on a clean, formatted HD--at least to me.  The longest 
7.1 took was 70 minutes, or so--I was using scsi 4X cd's with those, though.  
Would a scsi CD make that much difference?

So far, kde2 is definitely prettier than its predecessors, and a bit slower 
to load.  Apps are somewhat slower to load too (ala Win98)--I guess that's 
the payment for the eye candy.  Some stuff is not totally stable, imo.  So 
far my crashes have only happened when I CLOSED an app, never while running 
one or while loading one.  I get a consistent crash when I close the 
background manager if I choose a background from a source other than kde's 
default sourcefile, and I get the "app has crashed" window when I close any 
Gnome game that I'm running in kde.  Minor annoyances, but I don't think I'll 
do any more 7.2 installs until the bugfixes come in the next month or so.

CUPS was kind of a headache for me, but I've got it figured out now.  In 
fact, I think I like it, now I've got the StarOffice printing sorted out.  
Like anything new it requires some getting used to.

My one real complaint is the Konquerer network ran really slow copying from 
Windows machines to the 7.2 machines.  I don't have a clue why, it was fine 
going from Linux box to Linux box.  I installed the LinNeighborhood rpm and 
now both Linux and Windows files copy fast.  Anyone know why this happened to 
me?  Has it happened to anyone else, and if so, how did you fix it?

Eryl




Re: [newbie]vmware and Xfree86v.4

2000-11-24 Thread Richard Chase

Does it work with XFree86 version 3.3.6?

Rich Chase

Marcia wrote:
> 
> Dear All, I just found out that vmware does not work with the new
> Xfree86 version 4. I have already paid $99 for it and downloaded it.
> What would be the best thing to do now? I definitely wish to use it.
> Thanks for your help. Marcia




[newbie] problem with update

2000-11-24 Thread Neville Cobb

I recently updated to the latest versions of cups 1.1.4-5.1, modutils
2.3.20-1.1, and tsch 1.09.04-1.1 uding mandrake update and they still
appear in the files-to-update window of mandrake update as if I have to
do them again. When I update again it erors and says that the rpms are
already installed. 

Is there something I have to do manually for the update program to
recognise that these programs are already installed on my system?

Nev Cobb




Re: [newbie] StarOffice as user

2000-11-24 Thread eryl

On Friday 24 November 2000 07:38, you wrote:
> Question: what if you got the Staroffice5.2 rpm off of the
>  App CD from the  nasty walmart version of mandrake 7.2?
> I have installed mandrake 7.2 from downloaded ISOs, after
> finding out how "incomplete" the "complete" version was, and
> then, I wanted the Staroffice5.2 and knew it was on the App CD,
> so I did kpackage as "root" and found it on the walmart App CD
> and installed it. Will it be ok? or will I have to reinstall it
> with the /net command or such?
> Let me know cause I already installed it with kpackage.
> Susan
>
>
I don't think you'll have any problems whatsoever.  I'm using the SO 5.2 
version from the 7.1 CD number three with my 7.2 that I got from Cheapbytes 
and it's fine.  Course, I only installed last Sunday, so something could show 
up, but I kinda doubt that it will, now.




RE: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last

2000-11-24 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt

Cool web pages!  I was going to read the review, but got side tracked on how
nice the web designing was  - just wanted to tell you.

Mike


> i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and
> some screen shots on my web site.  Applix claims (i can't really say for
> sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something
> ported.  i found
> it mostly useable...  a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so
> far it is the best of what i have seen.  the review is at:
> >
> >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm
> >
> >later dayz..
> >
> >Adrian Smith
> >'de telepone dude
> >Telecom Dept.
> >x 7042
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [newbie] Pine 4.30 (was Aurora)

2000-11-24 Thread Mark Weaver

:)... yeah...I saw that part, but even after I turned it on I still didn't
see any evidence of threading going on. Thats why I thought I was missing
something.

-- 
Mark

/ * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
  * in order to get the rats up from below decks
  * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
  *
  * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
  */

<*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 Paul had this to say!

> On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> >ok...I've got it working now, but I still don't see the threading working
> >at all. Maybe I'm missing something here, but what should I be looking
> >for?
> 
> Mark, in Setup -> Config, scroll all the way down to:
> 
> sort-key =
> SetSort Options
> ---  --
> ( )  Subject
> ( )  Arrival
> ( )  From
> ( )  To
> ( )  Cc
> (*)  Date
> ( )  siZe
> ( )  OrderedSubj
> ( )  scorE
> ( )  tHread <==
> 
> There it is.
> 
> Paul
> 





Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?

2000-11-24 Thread Neville Cobb

Anyone with windows installed on the front partitions that are migrating
over to mandrake will probably appreciate grup as it overcomes the 1024
cylinder limitation of lilo. A few weeks ago I went to onstall SuSE over
my mandrake partitions. Since it uses lilo and my boot partition was
outside the 1024 boundary I had so readjust some of my windows/data
partitions before I could install. And that isn't as easy to do in SuSE
as it is with mandrake using DiskDrake. I have since moved back to
mandrake for a lot of similar reasons.

Nev


Jim Anderson wrote:
> 
> According to something I saw on the l-m site, GRUB is now the default
> bootloader for Linux-Mandrake 7.2, but LILO is optional in an Expert
> install.
> 
> - jim
> 
> On 11/24/00 12:03 PM, philomena spoke the words:
> >I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and
> >try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes,
> >and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as
> >soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have
> >heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but
> >I'm
> >sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are
> >not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences.
> >
> >philomena
> >
> >On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote:
> >> I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not
> >> familiar with grub.  Why would one want to use grub instead
> >> of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere?
> >> --doug
> >>
> >> At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote:
> >> >On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote:
> >> >>Ok, here today's question.
> >> >>
> >> >>I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the
> >> >>rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to
> >> >> boot. How can I get it back to grub?
> >> >
> >> >Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run  ./install.sh
> >> >Next boot you'll see grub again
> >> >
> >> >Paul
> >




RE: [newbie] netgear ea201 stopped working in 7.2?

2000-11-24 Thread eschbach

Same problems I am having... HMMM>>> Can anyone say rushed release?


> ** Original Subject: RE: [newbie] netgear ea201 stopped working in 7.2?
> ** Original Sender: bascule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:33:29 -0600

> ** Original Message follows... 

>
> i have the above card in my box, under lm7 and 7.1 it worked fine but now 
> i've installed 7.2 i cannot get get the card to initialise, i have not 
> changed the cards internal settings (full duplex non pnp) i have entered the 
> io and irq in the linuxconf>networking>network devices section but when i run 
> ifup eth0 or when the machine boots the error message 'delaying eth0
> initialisation' comes up, i'm sure the card is fine and i have just missed 
> out a simple step, but lms 7 and 7.1 were so simple hardware wise that i'm 
> not aware of what else i should be looking at, what are the services needed 
> to get the card working (as opposed to actual network service like nfs etc.)
> 
> bascule


>** - End Original Message --- **

> 

]XAN[animalTK





[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Hangs on 'killall'

2000-11-24 Thread Denver Espenorio

I just finished installing mandrake 7.2, but when I restart my system and it
goes thru the shutdown process, the system just hangs in the part 'killall'
and i have to do a cold reboot just to get back to mandrake and it has to do
all those fsck things.  Anyone can help me fix this problem?


Thanks





Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last

2000-11-24 Thread philomena

wow - if you fall from that high horse you're on you might seriously injure 
yourself ! What does a user review of a product have to do with knowing how 
the platform works ? Only an "expert" is allowed an opinion? If you tell 
someone you like a movie, it has nice special effects but the acting sucks, 
should you keep quiet unless you are a trained actor and special effects 
wizard ? Anyone can discuss how they like or don't like a product - if they 
want to post their opinions on their own website, go for it. Either disagree 
with the review or agree - how you can make comments like that about 
someone's product review is beyond me.  Linux is all about being open and 
sharing opinions and knowledge.

my 2 cents
philomena

On Friday 24 November 2000 11:22 pm, you wrote:
> At 14:00 11/23/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> /snip/
> i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and
> some screen shots on my web site.  Applix claims (i can't really say for
> sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something ported.  i found
> it mostly useable...  a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so
>
> far it is the best of what i have seen.  the review is at:
> >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm
> >
> >later dayz..
> >
> >Adrian Smith
> >'de telepone dude
> >Telecom Dept.
> >x 7042
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> /snip/ lotsa quote
>
> Yes, I am sending this from W98/Eudora, but I CAN ACCESS the net from
> Linux.  And do.
> I wonder whether a review from someone who, by his own admission (in the
> review),
> cannot access the Internet from Linux is worth much.
>
> I have my own troubles with linux, and I would not presume to present a
> review of
> serious software unless I had full control of the system on which it runs.
> (To
> the extent that the system allows control, of course.)
>
> It would be like me running a review of some program on a MAC, a machine I
> dislike
> because of its "I know better than you" attitude, like Windows.  I know
> nothing
> about actually working on the MAC.  You seem to know fairly little of
> actually working in LINUX.  I would suggest that you save your reviews
> until you are competent
> in the environment, and then I will welcome them.
>
> --dm




Re: [newbie] partition info destruction

2000-11-24 Thread Alan Shoemaker

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
> Are there perhaps any tools which i can use to just tell
> the computer that my windows partition is infact a FAT32
> partition, just by editing the partition table) - this
> excluding fdisk, as i had no luck there...
>
> thanx for your help...

creaktop.yes Linux fdisk will do that.  Use your Linux 
Mandrake 7.2 install CD in rescue mode to gain access to both 
fdisk and your partition.  The 't' command of fdisk will 
change a partition's system id.  From what you've been saying 
you probably need to change it back from whatever it is now 
(probably a type '83' or a type '85') to a type 'b'.  Check 
out the 'l' command to decide what to change it to.
-- 
Alan




Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last

2000-11-24 Thread Adrian Smith

are you stupid?
what does accessing the net have to do with using a word processor?
you must be young.
if you wish to engage in flame war email me privately & do not waste bandwidth.



Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4:22:29 PM 11/24/00 >>>


At 14:00 11/23/2000 -0700, you wrote:
/snip/
i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and
some screen shots on my web site.  Applix claims (i can't really say for
sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something ported.  i found
it mostly useable...  a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so
far it is the best of what i have seen.  the review is at:
>
>http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm 
>
>later dayz..
>
>Adrian Smith
>'de telepone dude
>Telecom Dept.
>x 7042
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
/snip/ lotsa quote

Yes, I am sending this from W98/Eudora, but I CAN ACCESS the net from
Linux.  And do.
I wonder whether a review from someone who, by his own admission (in the
review),
cannot access the Internet from Linux is worth much.  

I have my own troubles with linux, and I would not presume to present a
review of 
serious software unless I had full control of the system on which it runs.
(To 
the extent that the system allows control, of course.)

It would be like me running a review of some program on a MAC, a machine I
dislike
because of its "I know better than you" attitude, like Windows.  I know
nothing
about actually working on the MAC.  You seem to know fairly little of actually
working in LINUX.  I would suggest that you save your reviews until you are
competent
in the environment, and then I will welcome them.

--dm











Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last

2000-11-24 Thread Doug McGarrett



At 14:00 11/23/2000 -0700, you wrote:
/snip/
i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and
some screen shots on my web site.  Applix claims (i can't really say for
sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something ported.  i found
it mostly useable...  a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so
far it is the best of what i have seen.  the review is at:
>
>http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm
>
>later dayz..
>
>Adrian Smith
>'de telepone dude
>Telecom Dept.
>x 7042
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
/snip/ lotsa quote

Yes, I am sending this from W98/Eudora, but I CAN ACCESS the net from
Linux.  And do.
I wonder whether a review from someone who, by his own admission (in the
review),
cannot access the Internet from Linux is worth much.  

I have my own troubles with linux, and I would not presume to present a
review of 
serious software unless I had full control of the system on which it runs.
(To 
the extent that the system allows control, of course.)

It would be like me running a review of some program on a MAC, a machine I
dislike
because of its "I know better than you" attitude, like Windows.  I know
nothing
about actually working on the MAC.  You seem to know fairly little of actually
working in LINUX.  I would suggest that you save your reviews until you are
competent
in the environment, and then I will welcome them.

--dm









Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?

2000-11-24 Thread Jim Anderson

According to something I saw on the l-m site, GRUB is now the default 
bootloader for Linux-Mandrake 7.2, but LILO is optional in an Expert 
install.

- jim
   
On 11/24/00 12:03 PM, philomena spoke the words:
>I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and 
>try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes, 
>and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as 
>soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have 
>heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but 
>I'm 
>sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are 
>not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences.
>
>philomena
>
>On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote:
>> I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not
>> familiar with grub.  Why would one want to use grub instead
>> of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere?
>> --doug
>>
>> At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote:
>> >On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote:
>> >>Ok, here today's question.
>> >>
>> >>I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the
>> >>rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to
>> >> boot. How can I get it back to grub?
>> >
>> >Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run  ./install.sh
>> >Next boot you'll see grub again
>> >
>> >Paul
>




[newbie] SDL Games in General.

2000-11-24 Thread CastleKidd

As with my past few emails, I have been goofing around trying to get some 
things to works, and the only one I can get is SDL. They all are asking for 
some files, (SDL_mixer.h, vector, and others) and I dont know what I could be 
doing wrong. I installed 100% of the install on one bought CD. I even 
downloaded all the latest RPM's of SDL stuff and I still ahve no luck. Can 
someone please tell me what I am doing wrong.

I really hope I can get this Linux stuff soon, I am sick of trying to defend 
it when I cant even get it to work myself.

THanks so much all you Linuxers!
~Lance




Re: [newbie] partition info destruction

2000-11-24 Thread Adrian Smith

howdy -- my comments are mixed in below with yours...

you said:
I have a backup of my bootsector, I think i created that with norton, but
when i boot from that it also asks for the location of command.com, and i've
tried first booting from win98 bootdisc, and then using the 'backup of
bootsector' disc, but it doesn't find any files on the disc...

me sayz:
hmmm, that's odd now that i think about it  if you boot from a win98 disk, 
shouldn't command.com be on that disk?   it's been so long since i have booted win 
from a floppy.  but that seems really strange.  do you have a norton rescue disk?  
that should have partition info on it which could be restored.

you said:
I think i'll try to boot from my lnx-mdk 7.1 install disc, and look at
discdrake again, although i'm pretty sure that when i entered that window, the
whole graphical display of the hard-drive was filled with the recommended
sizes of /, swap and /home (together filling the hard-drive) but i doubt
wether this will help at all, as i don't recall any diagnostic or repair tools
included there...

me sayz:
i don't know if there are diagnostic or repair tools there either
didn't someone on the list write that they used linux fdisk to look at their 
partitions and that "refreshed" the partition data & brought it back?  try that.  i 
don't know much about linux fdisk yet, but i was looking at it the other day and i see 
that it will let you change the type of partition.  if the former win partition still 
exist, perhapse you simply need to start fdisk and change that partition to fat32 but 
not format it or anything.  maybe that would fix it??  i'm just theorizing here -- 
understand i have never done this.

you said:
I never actually answered 'yes' to any such action, infact the install
system froze just as i was going to make that choice.

me sayz:
again, i theorize, but this would lead me to hope that your information is still on 
the drive, just the partition table is lost.  

you said:
So in effect i think it shouldn't have but it did somehow totally change
the information ABOUT the partitions (which i gather is in the partition
table), not the partitions themselves. (this i think is exemplified by the fact
that running fdisk told me that the windows partition is a non-DOS
partition, but that it does exist, and obviously has the same dimensions as i had
left it with.) 

me sayz:
yes, the partition table records what the partition type is & where it ends & begins, 
at least that is my understanding.

you said:
Are there perhaps any tools which i can use to just tell the computer that
my windows partition is infact a FAT32 partition, just by editing the
partition table) - this excluding fdisk, as i had no luck there...

me sayz:
probably, tho i don't know what they might be.   =(   partition magic might be able to 
do it (i don't have PM, but hear very good things about it)  i'm sorry i can't tell 
you anything that will save you here, just tossing a bunch of theorys at you.  =)  
i've been lucky & never had to recover from something like this, so i have no first 
hand experience.
i still kinda think using linux fdisk to "tell" the computer that partition is a fat32 
system might work.  is this what you tried?
i also wonder about using windows fdisk with the switch to repair the master boot 
record.  maybe that would convince it that you have a fat32 drive?  this last 
suggestion is a big big big SWAG (scientific wild ass guess).  please don't try that 
unless you are really brave or unless someone smarter than me thinks it might work.  =)

i hope your problem works out...
i am leaving soon & will not be back to the list until monday.
i hope to see a post from you telling us how you fixed it.   =)

---
> hi creaktop
> 
> i'm still a linux newbie, but fairly experienced with windows
> 
> umm...  it sounds to me like you have blown away your windows
> partitions.
> i've never used the "install to free space on Windows" and i'm not sure
> exactly what that does.  is Linux installed on your computer and
> actually working?  you said you had 7.1 on the box before.  if so, try
running
> diskdrake as this will give an easy to understand graphic view of what
the
> partitons on your drive(s) look like.  linux is red, free space is
> white, fat is blue i think.  if it doesn't show any fat drives, then
you
> may have totally killed it.
> 
> do you have any backups of your partition tables?  diskdrake will allow
> you to do that -- tho i have never used that function so i couldn't say
> how well it works.
> 
> ummm  i use norton disk doctor also  if that doesn't see any
> drives to work on  then, i would say you partition table is damanged
or
> changed...  at any point before your crash & burn did you answer 'yes'
> to anything asking you if you were sure you wanted to write a partition
> table or format a dr

Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?

2000-11-24 Thread philomena

I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and 
try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes, 
and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as 
soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have 
heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but I'm 
sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are 
not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences.

philomena

On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote:
> I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not
> familiar with grub.  Why would one want to use grub instead
> of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere?
> --doug
>
> At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote:
> >On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote:
> >>Ok, here today's question.
> >>
> >>I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the
> >>rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to
> >> boot. How can I get it back to grub?
> >
> >Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run  ./install.sh
> >Next boot you'll see grub again
> >
> >Paul




[newbie] netgear ea201 stopped working in 7.2?

2000-11-24 Thread bascule

i have the above card in my box, under lm7 and 7.1 it worked fine but now 
i've installed 7.2 i cannot get get the card to initialise, i have not 
changed the cards internal settings (full duplex non pnp) i have entered the 
io and irq in the linuxconf>networking>network devices section but when i run 
ifup eth0 or when the machine boots the error message 'delaying eth0
initialisation' comes up, i'm sure the card is fine and i have just missed 
out a simple step, but lms 7 and 7.1 were so simple hardware wise that i'm 
not aware of what else i should be looking at, what are the services needed 
to get the card working (as opposed to actual network service like nfs etc.)

bascule




Re: [newbie] partition info destruction

2000-11-24 Thread creaktop

hi,

well, 7.1 is installed, but not working. So i can only run discdrake from
the install menu of either 7.1 or 7.2...

I have a backup of my bootsector, I think i created that with norton, but
when i boot from that it also asks for the location of command.com, and i've
tried first booting from win98 bootdisc, and then using the 'backup of
bootsector' disc, but it doesn't find any files on the disc...

I think i'll try to boot from my lnx-mdk 7.1 install disc, and look at
discdrake again, although i'm pretty sure that when i entered that window, the
whole graphical display of the hard-drive was filled with the recommended
sizes of /, swap and /home (together filling the hard-drive) but i doubt
wether this will help at all, as i don't recall any diagnostic or repair tools
included there...

I never actually answered 'yes' to any such action, infact the install
system froze just as i was going to make that choice.

So in effect i think it shouldn't have but it did somehow totally change
the information ABOUT the partitions (which i gather is in the partition
table), not the partitions themselves. (this i think is exemplified by the fact
that running fdisk told me that the windows partition is a non-DOS
partition, but that it does exist, and obviously has the same dimensions as i had
left it with.) 

Are there perhaps any tools which i can use to just tell the computer that
my windows partition is infact a FAT32 partition, just by editing the
partition table) - this excluding fdisk, as i had no luck there...

thanx for your help...

> hi creaktop
> 
> i'm still a linux newbie, but fairly experienced with windows
> 
> umm...  it sounds to me like you have blown away your windows
> partitions.
> i've never used the "install to free space on Windows" and i'm not sure
> exactly what that does.  is Linux installed on your computer and
> actually working?  you said you had 7.1 on the box before.  if so, try
running
> diskdrake as this will give an easy to understand graphic view of what
the
> partitons on your drive(s) look like.  linux is red, free space is
> white, fat is blue i think.  if it doesn't show any fat drives, then
you
> may have totally killed it.
> 
> do you have any backups of your partition tables?  diskdrake will allow
> you to do that -- tho i have never used that function so i couldn't say
> how well it works.
> 
> ummm  i use norton disk doctor also  if that doesn't see any
> drives to work on  then, i would say you partition table is damanged
or
> changed...  at any point before your crash & burn did you answer 'yes'
> to anything asking you if you were sure you wanted to write a partition
> table or format a drive?  best case, i think your data may still be
there
> on the drive, physically there...  but the partition table is gone.  can
> it be repaired?  i'm not too sure.
> 
> wish i had better news for you
> but there are lots of other folks here who are up on windows, so don't
> give up hope quite yet.
> 
> again, my best idea right now -- use diskdrake to see what it says.
> if you have a big white chunck that says "free space" i bet that use to
> be your windows partition.
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian Smith
> 'de telepone dude
> Telecom Dept.
> x 7042
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11:34:31 AM 11/24/00 >>>
> Ok, this is what happened...
> 
> I was running Windows, and bought Linux-Mandrake 7.2.
> I installed it with the custom option, as i had already installed 7.1 a
> couple of times. when it got to the point to decide how to install it
> on my
> harddrive, i chose the option "install to free space on Windows", which
> i
> thought would create the necessary partitions, and 'steal' the space
> from
> windows. Beforehand i had defragmented windows. 
> when i clicked into the "install to free space on Windows" option, the
> system froze.(AI could move the mouse, but the system would not respond
> to the
> mouse or the keyboard navigation of the options... I proceeded to press
> .
> the system rebooted, but instead of booting normally it asked for me to
> enter the location of my command.com file, i entred
> c:\windows\command.com but
> to no avail. When i booted with my win 98 boot disc it told me that it
> had
> not found a valid FAT16 or FAT32 partition on my drive, and that i
> should
> use fdisk to make one. i used fdisk and it told me that there was the
> windows
> partition (i could tell because of the size), but that it was a non-DOS
> partition. I tried using norton disc doctor, but that didn't help
> because it
> could not see a drive to examine...
> I desperately need help, because i've got important stuff on the
> windows
> partition...
> I started Lnx-mdk 7.2 setup again, just to see what the partitions
> looked
> like etc. but the 'only' option of how to install was to use all the
> space
> (ie. no option to use the space that was not being used by windows -
> win does
> not use all the space on my harddrive; the rest is empty)
> I know 

[newbie]vmware and Xfree86v.4

2000-11-24 Thread Marcia

Dear All, I just found out that vmware does not work with the new
Xfree86 version 4. I have already paid $99 for it and downloaded it.
What would be the best thing to do now? I definitely wish to use it.
Thanks for your help. Marcia




[newbie] address book in kde2

2000-11-24 Thread bascule

hi all, 
is there a way to import a netscape address book into kab or the kmail 
address book, i am trying to find an alternative to netscape messenger but 
i'm not spending days transferring addresses by hand!

bascule




Re: [newbie] Two Questions for thought

2000-11-24 Thread CastleKidd

In a message dated 11/24/2000 7:42:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I have two problems that need addressing.  
>  The first one:
>  I have a SoundBlaster 16PCI Sound Card that I can't get configured 
properly,
>  therefore no sound.  What is the easiest and most effective way to 
configure 
> it
>  for sound.  Please leave no path unexplored.

I remember reading something about that in a HowTo. Check some of those out!

~Lance




Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?

2000-11-24 Thread Doug McGarrett

I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not
familiar with grub.  Why would one want to use grub instead
of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere?
--doug

At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote:
>
>>Ok, here today's question.
>>
>>I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the
>>rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot.
>>How can I get it back to grub?
>
>Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run  ./install.sh
>Next boot you'll see grub again
>
>Paul






Re: [newbie] vmware

2000-11-24 Thread Richard Chase

Marcia:
When you attempt the installation with rpm, the rpm will tell you that
certain 'dependencies' are not fulfilled. It will tell you which files you
need (by name). You can search your Mandrake CD for them, and if you don't
find them, you can search the web using keywords rpm and . I
almost always find the files I need this way.
Best of Luck,
Rich Chase

root wrote:

> Dear All, I just purchased and downloaded VMware 2.0.3 for my
> Linux-Mandrake 7.2. I downloaded the rpm file. In the process
> installation could not proceed because I needed some C compiler files? I
> do not think I did install anything for programming during installation.
> What C compiler programs would I need for this and would they be on one
> of my Linux 7.2 disks? Thank you for your help. Marcia





Re: [newbie] sound problem

2000-11-24 Thread Cyphfer

as root run modprobe sb io=0x220 dma=1 mpu_io=0x330 irq=5


if there is an IRQ error run car/proc/interrupt to check where the conflict lies.  
Then adjust the values in the command above for new irq

Cyphfer


On Fri, 24 November 2000, Oder Santos wrote:

> 
> On Friday 24 November 2000 18:40, you wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 November 2000, "Oder Santos" wrote:
> > > I have installed Mandrake 7.2 in my Toshiba satellite 315 CDS but
> > > harddrake don't detect the sound chip OPL3SA2. It worked fine under
> > > Mandrake 6.1. Can someone please help me solve this problem? Thanks in
> > > advance, Oder.
> >
> > Run sndconfig from root.
> >
> >
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> I tried sndconfig but receive this message: modprobe error 
> modutils is reading from /etc/modules.conf and ignoring /etc/conf.modules. 
> The use of /etc/conf.modules is depracted, please remove /etc/conf.modules as 
> soon as possible
> modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-0
> what should I do?  Thanks a lot, Oder.

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Re: [newbie] Two Questions for thought

2000-11-24 Thread Adrian Smith

i can't say much about the printer problem, mine doesn't work either  =)

as to the sound
i think you have to use sndconfig.  i don't think there is any other way.
also make sure your window manager isn't involved.
i have seen some situations on this list where it was simply that the volume was 
turnned down in KDE
and in my case, i use Enlightenment, and i had no sound until i ran esd.
so run sndconfig -- and they say you should not do it under X
and i think you have to be root.  i don't remember now as i did mine so long ago

=)
hope that helps



Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3:09:35 PM 11/24/00 >>>
I have two problems that need addressing.  
The first one:
I have a SoundBlaster 16PCI Sound Card that I can't get configured properly,
therefore no sound.  What is the easiest and most effective way to configure it
for sound.  Please leave no path unexplored.

The second one:
I bought a HP 648C Deskjet printer and I can't get that mofo working as well! 
I already tried the DrakeConf Printer setup to no avail.  What are my options
to set up my printer.  It is a hassle to type out papers and have to get up
early and go to class to print them out.  Not to mention the problems that I
have transferring the StarOffice format to .doc on occasions, i.e. text
formatting, widows and orphans, etc..  

I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me.

I already know about sndconfig and printtool, but didn't use them yet.  Are
they more effective than other ways, or are other ways better?

-- 

Jay
"May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with 
gladness, that stays forever after."
"May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend."
http://www.mrsnooky.com 







[newbie] XFree86 hangs during hardware probe

2000-11-24 Thread Richard Chase

I previously used Mandrake 6.0 with no problems. I configured my Rage LT
Pro card as a Mach64 with no clock settings. Now, after attempting to
install 7.2, my system hangs when the machine attempts to start X. It
doesn't actually start the server, and I get a plain, black, empty
screen. I must cold boot.

I have tried the following: reinstall my backup config file. Boot to
text mode and startx to start the X server. Reinstall Mandrake 6.0
(which now hangs in the same place!)
X -probeonly causes the hang to occur, so I assume that it happens
during the probe.

What is going on? What can I do?

Rich Chase




[newbie] LinCity - The Game

2000-11-24 Thread CastleKidd
I was messing around and I read about LinCity. Being an avid SIM fan I had to find it and download it. Well, Im stuck. Im using Mandrake 7.1 and when I try to "make xlincity" it says:


[root@localhost lincity-1.11]# gmake xlincity
gcc   -c main.cxx -o xmain.o -O2   -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Winline -DLIBDIR=\"/usr/loc
al/lib/lincity\" -DLC_X11
main.cxx: In function `void do_save_city()':
main.cxx:693: implicit declaration of function `int strcat(...)'
main.cxx: In function `void load_city_raw(char *)':
main.cxx:1171: implicit declaration of function `int strncmp(...)'
main.cxx: In function `void draw_save_dir(int)':
main.cxx:1637: implicit declaration of function `int strncpy(...)'
main.cxx:1640: implicit declaration of function `int strncat(...)'
gmake: *** [xmain.o] Error 1  

I used the files that I downloaded right off the net. What am I doing wrong?

Your Linux Buddy,
~Lance


[newbie] vmware

2000-11-24 Thread root

Dear All, I just purchased and downloaded VMware 2.0.3 for my
Linux-Mandrake 7.2. I downloaded the rpm file. In the process
installation could not proceed because I needed some C compiler files? I
do not think I did install anything for programming during installation.
What C compiler programs would I need for this and would they be on one
of my Linux 7.2 disks? Thank you for your help. Marcia




[newbie] Iomega Zip through Iomega SCSI

2000-11-24 Thread CastleKidd

I bought one of those cheap IOMEGA SCSI cards for my iomega 100 MB zip drive 
a while ago, has anyone had any luck getting Linux to access these. I dont 
know where to even begin. I have a normal SCSI one and it works fine there, 
but on my other computer I dont have a SCSI card, so I have to use this cheap 
IOMEGA fake card. Anyone know what I am talking about, or how they can help 
me?

Thanks in advance.
~Lance




[newbie] AIR-i486 or??

2000-11-24 Thread Jozef Glonek



Hello, anybody there,
 
As a real, real newbie I did'nt want to "mess up" 
my winblows system since I spend quit al lot of hours to have it 
configured as it is now, readily fast and quite reliable. So I downloaded the 
486-image to try out on my older system, which is :
 
proc : Intel 486DX2-66
mb : VL-bus 
mem : 24 Mb ram
HD : IDE 1.7 Mb Quantum Fireball
vc : Trident 9400cxi
CD-rom : IDE Creativ CD4834E
standard SVGA, capable at least 
800*640*32k
standard serial mouse
 
PROBLEMS!
The grafic installation kept always stuck  at 
"no scsi drives found" with no other buttons then "OK".
With an install disk, as mentioned on the CD, 
i managed to install everything upto "xconfiguration" where the system 
hangs.
Restarting with the (by that time already made) 
boot disk, I could'nt log on as root, only as user.
After about 15 tries, with different hard disks, 
other video-cards, I finally gave up.
Then I could use a system from a friend for a time, 
and I retried. This system was a Intel PI-133, PCI-bus, S3-Trio64 and I placed 
my Quantum HD. First attempt to install was successful.
What's the problem with my 486 system??? Afterall, 
the iso-file I downloaded intended to be written for a 486 system or 
not?
 
I really like to reuse it. Can someone help me 
out?
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [newbie] partition info destruction

2000-11-24 Thread Neville Cobb

Believe it or not but I've had this happen three times to me but I could
not repeat the circumstances in which it occurred. I acted hastily twice
and lost all my data however the 3rd time I went straight to Fdisk as
you did tried to create a partition and it said that there already was a
partition whereas the boot disk came up with the same answer as it did
in your occasion. It seamed that going through the process of the fdisk
seemed to be enough to refresh whatever holds the partition mapping and
all boot well when I backed out of it. I was using win98 and trying to
install Md at the time, but not into the windows partition. It hasen't
happened since either.

Since then I've always maintained a separate data partition in Fat32
that windows and Mandrake can share. Ie found it to be a good safety net
when you are playing with multiple operating systems. 

And as the other response said, I aslway choose the Mandrake install
option where I can use DiskDrake to visually see what it has done or
chosen to do. 

Nev Cobb


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Ok, this is what happened...
> 
> I was running Windows, and bought Linux-Mandrake 7.2.
> I installed it with the custom option, as i had already installed 7.1 a
> couple of times. when it got to the point to decide how to install it on my
> harddrive, i chose the option "install to free space on Windows", which i
> thought would create the necessary partitions, and 'steal' the space from
> windows. Beforehand i had defragmented windows.
> when i clicked into the "install to free space on Windows" option, the
> system froze.(AI could move the mouse, but the system would not respond to the
> mouse or the keyboard navigation of the options... I proceeded to press
> .
> the system rebooted, but instead of booting normally it asked for me to
> enter the location of my command.com file, i entred c:\windows\command.com but
> to no avail. When i booted with my win 98 boot disc it told me that it had
> not found a valid FAT16 or FAT32 partition on my drive, and that i should
> use fdisk to make one. i used fdisk and it told me that there was the windows
> partition (i could tell because of the size), but that it was a non-DOS
> partition. I tried using norton disc doctor, but that didn't help because it
> could not see a drive to examine...
> I desperately need help, because i've got important stuff on the windows
> partition...
> I started Lnx-mdk 7.2 setup again, just to see what the partitions looked
> like etc. but the 'only' option of how to install was to use all the space
> (ie. no option to use the space that was not being used by windows - win does
> not use all the space on my harddrive; the rest is empty)
> I know this is not exactly a linux question, but my guess is that some of
> you will also know something about windows.
> 
> Thanx a lot...
> 
> creaktop
> 
> --
> Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net




Re: [newbie]penguin

2000-11-24 Thread patrick

pablito wrote:

> seems like a penguin is an unfortunate mascot for Linux -- a bird that looks
> cute but can't fly, or a Southern Hemisphere bird that people may think
> lives in Linus Thorvald's Finland but doesn't exist there outside of a zoo.
>
> On the other hand, a Window is a great image for Windows, a big fancy frame
> with nothing much inside.

no its not. we all love penguins now that we have linux. i can understand
your felelings towards windoes though. are u having a bad day. if u are
i would suggest several penguin toys to cheer u up :)







[newbie] Two Questions for thought

2000-11-24 Thread Jay

I have two problems that need addressing.  
The first one:
I have a SoundBlaster 16PCI Sound Card that I can't get configured properly,
therefore no sound.  What is the easiest and most effective way to configure it
for sound.  Please leave no path unexplored.

The second one:
I bought a HP 648C Deskjet printer and I can't get that mofo working as well! 
I already tried the DrakeConf Printer setup to no avail.  What are my options
to set up my printer.  It is a hassle to type out papers and have to get up
early and go to class to print them out.  Not to mention the problems that I
have transferring the StarOffice format to .doc on occasions, i.e. text
formatting, widows and orphans, etc..  

I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me.

I already know about sndconfig and printtool, but didn't use them yet.  Are
they more effective than other ways, or are other ways better?

-- 

Jay
"May the sound of happy music, And the lilt of Irish laughter, fill your heart with 
gladness, that stays forever after."
"May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend."
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Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2: installation from iso's problem... PLEASE HELP!

2000-11-24 Thread agent cooper [f.b.i.]

- Original Message -
From: "xaos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2: installation from iso's problem...
PLEASE HELP!


> when each step fails, do a ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or whichever to see if you
can
> figure out what  is at the root of the software failure to begin with.
> usually on the other tty's at the console the error return is better. when
> you get that info, post it to the list.
-

OK HERE IS THAT INFORMATION;

> amd k62-450mhz
> fic via 503+ mboard
> 128MB ram
> nvidia riva tnt2 32mb video card
> tdk velcoCD-RW 12/10/32
> florry drive
> 3 hard drives... c: - 8.4gig with windows me [all fat32 partition], d:
>1gig linux partition [and 125meg swap drive on d:], e: 15gig [all fat32
> partition]
>
> i downloaded, and burned both iso's for mandrake linux 7.2
> [Mandrake72-inst.iso, and Mandrake-72-ext.iso] from
> ftp://biglinux.tccw.wku.edu/pub/cdimages/mandrake/iso , [ACCTUALLY
> DOWNLOADED and burned them TWICE, because i thought my problem could be
> possible curruption in the iso image when it got burned... but that doesnt
> seem to be the problem]
>
> booted from the install iso, the installation process went smooth up to
> the point JUST AFTER i created my first user for the system [other than
root],
> i get the error;
>
> An Error Has Occurred:
> Can't Create an undefined value as a HASH reference.

HERE I PUSHED CONTROL-ALT-F1 and F2, here is that information;

step 'addUser' finished
starting step 'createBootdisk'
to put in modules scsi_hostadapter
step 'create Bootdisk' finished
starting step 'setup Bootloader'
to put in modules scsi_hostadapter
unable to find kernel image /mnt/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk
unable to find kernel image /mnt/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk
unable to find kernel image /mnt/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk
warning: can't use undefined value as a HASH reference at
/usr/bin/perl-install/bootloader.pm line 265

> click OK, since there is no other button...
>
> then i goto setup the bootloader [just to let you know, lilo has always
> worked on my system, i run slackware, and use lilo all the time...
> currently lilo IS installed on MBR of my c: drive]
>
> i choose "First sector of drive [MBR]" add windows, and linux, then goto
> click DONE, then get the message;
>
> Installation of Bootloader failed. The following error occurred:
> - can only click OK -

HERE I PUSHED CONTROL-ALT-F1 and F2, here is that information;

starting step 'setup Bootloader'
to put in modules scsi_hostadapter
warning: Died at /usr/bin/perl-install/bootloader.pm line 724 <> line 7
warning: already displayed at
/usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_interactive.pm line 928, <> line 7

anyone know how to get around this? im getting this same exact error
messages in the same place even after downloading the .iso's for mandrake
linux 7.2 2 different times, and burning the cd's 2 different times?! can
someone please help out?

thanks,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [newbie] sound problem

2000-11-24 Thread Oder Santos

On Friday 24 November 2000 18:40, you wrote:
> On Fri, 24 November 2000, "Oder Santos" wrote:
> > I have installed Mandrake 7.2 in my Toshiba satellite 315 CDS but
> > harddrake don't detect the sound chip OPL3SA2. It worked fine under
> > Mandrake 6.1. Can someone please help me solve this problem? Thanks in
> > advance, Oder.
>
> Run sndconfig from root.
>
>
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>
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> offered to me as the result of an unsolicited email
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I tried sndconfig but receive this message: modprobe error 
modutils is reading from /etc/modules.conf and ignoring /etc/conf.modules. 
The use of /etc/conf.modules is depracted, please remove /etc/conf.modules as 
soon as possible
modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-0
what should I do?  Thanks a lot, Oder.




Re: [newbie] 7.2 says i've got a PIII ?!

2000-11-24 Thread Mathias De Belder

> Under my laptop, owning a Celeron 500 mhz, Mandrake 7.2 says it's got a
> PIII Copermine... what's wrong??  8-?

Your Celeron 500 is probably a CeleronII. This is the successor of the
CeleronA and it's based on the .18µ Coppermine core of the PIII. Only
the cache and the L2 associativity have been altered, and it runs on a
slower Front Side Bus speed.

Linux Mandrake is correct in telling you that you have a PIII ;-)

BUT, the CeleronII's performance is WAY of that of a regular PIII due to
the mentioned L2 cache associativity...

cat /proc/cpuinfo should tell you more.




Re: [newbie] Stupid printer question

2000-11-24 Thread Till Kamppeter

Vic wrote:
> 
> yeah, and it just flashed this box
> and did nothing after that.
> 
> I noticed that on linuxprinting.org
> I had to get a couple of files off of
> that site for the old HP Deskjet.
> 
> I think it works now, I just have to
> lpd -Pqueue instead of just lpd.
>

"lpd"? I have always used "lpr -Pqueue"
 
> I do not have the ink cart yet,
> so I just have to judge by the
> way the carriage is acting
> that it is printing correctly,
> at least it is trying.
>

Very economic and ecological printing, when the paper is over one simply
puts it back and continues, without touching any tree in the rain forest
any more.
 
> I will let you know when I
> actually get the ink cart in
> if it is actually printing the
> correct characters.
> 

Let's see what happens.

> 
> > > So I cannot install KUPS or cups,
> > > can't upgrade just yet,
> > > I have some more issues to deal
> > > with.
> > >

Perhaps you can install cups, surf to

   http://www.mandrakeuser.org/hardware/#4th

and especially

   http://www.mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hcups11.html#update

This probably works also on Mandrake 7.0.

   Till




Re: [newbie] re sendmail simple question (I think :)

2000-11-24 Thread freeman

Hi Phil 
  
 I have been playing with my sendmail some more and have figured out a way to get 
it to send mail out via pop account.  unfortunely I have to put in every domain I wish 
to e-mail there.  Its the /etc/mail/relay_allow file.  Is there anyway I can have 
myself and the users allowed to e-mail out to where ever without someone using my 
machine as a relay station for spam!! 

P.s. the funny thing is whatever I put in th relay_allow file does not show up 
anywhere in the webmin system even after restarting the sendmail system.


Regards


Mike Freeman





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Re: [newbie] LM7.2 -- Switchdesk -- where is it?

2000-11-24 Thread pkaplan1

It's been eliminated.  One alternative is as follows: Set SysV to 
usermode 5.  This boots directly to X using kdm and allows you to 
select your GUI at login.  When you logout from the GUI you are 
returned to the kdm screen, from which you can login to another 
GUI.  If you are uncomfortable booting directly to X, you can get a 
console when you get the kdm login screen by using Ctrl-Alt-F2.  
(From a console, use Alt-F7 [rather than startx] to get back to an X 
login.)
Paul

On 23 Nov 2000, at 3:22, Benjamin Sher wrote:

> Dear friends:
> 
> I am embarrassed to ask. Just installed LM7.2 with KDE 2.0 Final. Looks
> great. Well, I can't help but ask: where is "switchdesk" in xterm. How
> do I switch to gnome, etc. For the life of me, I can't find switchdesk.
> It must be right under my nose. I did check KDE's Help, but now answer
> there.
> 
> Would appreciate your help.
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Benjamin
> -- 
> Benjamin and Anna Sher
> Sher's Russian Web
> http://www.websher.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 






[newbie] core backtraces don't help debug?

2000-11-24 Thread cyberclay

Hey,
  When I attempt to get backtraces from gdb (either from
bug-buddy or manually from a core file) they often times
do not contain *any* useful information.  I can provide
an example if it becomes necessary (I don't have one
handy at this time).  Suffice to say that what a bt
reports is only signal information, and not enough to
do any sufficent debugging.
  Is this because the program was compiled without
debugging symbols?  Much of my software is installed
from RPM or src.rpm files -- maybe these have debugging
symbols turned off by default?
  Please help...

Regards,
  cyberclay
---
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[newbie] sound problem

2000-11-24 Thread Oder Santos

I have installed Mandrake 7.2 in my Toshiba satellite 315 CDS but harddrake
don't detect the sound chip OPL3SA2. It worked fine under Mandrake 6.1. Can
someone please help me solve this problem? Thanks in advance, Oder.





Re: [newbie] HD Partition question

2000-11-24 Thread Adrian Smith

hi Jacqueline;

how comfortable are you with messing with your computer?  i can tell you one way to do 
this, tho there might be easer ways.  1st -- have you backed up your windows system 
(or have the CDs to reinstall) on the off chance you kill windows?   =)   

but yes, you can put linux on your E drive, leave win on your C & duel boot, not a 
problem.

i would use the expert install.  when it gets to the point where you have to select 
the partitions to mount the file system it will open diskdrake which will show your 
drive and you will see 2 fat partitions.  select the "E" partition (make darn sure you 
select the right one -- look at the size of each one) then you can change the type of 
drive -- it will be fat32, you want to change it to ext2 -- then you can format that 
drive -- then you can tell the install program to mount your file system there.

from diskdrake you can also break that partition into smaller partitions if you want 
to mount linux on seperate partitions.  diskdrake is pretty straight forward (i 
figured it out)  just be sure you read everything carefully before you click on 
anything  =)

i hope this makes sense & helps you out



Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> "Jacqueline Michell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12:32:27 PM 11/24/00 >>>
I*m very sorry if this is a dumb question.  I bought Linux-Mandrake 7.2 (powerpack 
deluxe) and need some advice on partitions before I install.  I have no experience 
with Linux and find the installation manual unclear on this point.  I have also 
searched the newbie archives. 

My 15G HD now has two partitions:   7.14G (C:) Windows and Windows applications that 
are already installed--AND--7.13G (E:) reserved for Linux--not yet installed.  (I need 
to be able to dual-boot to either Windows or Linux.)

My questions:

1. Is there a way to insure that Linux is installed on the E:\drive?   If so, is this 
choice made in the Recommended, Customized, or Expert class of installation? 

2. Or---do I need to remove the E: partition and let Linux make it*s own partitions?  
If so, can one make sure that both OS have about equal HD space?

Any help will be greatly appreciated . . . Jacqueline Michell






Re: [newbie] HD Partition question

2000-11-24 Thread Paul

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jacqueline Michell wrote:

>My 15G HD now has two partitions:  7.14G (C:) Windows and Windows
>applications that are already installed--AND--7.13G (E:) reserved for
>Linux--not yet installed.  (I need to be able to dual-boot to either
>Windows or Linux.)

If you have a C and an E drive, does this mean your CD is D:? just
curious...

>My questions:
>
>1. Is there a way to insure that Linux is installed on the E:\drive?
>If so, is this choice made in the Recommended, Customized, or Expert
>class of installation?

You are always asked where you want Linux installed.
The first partition will be /dev/hda1, the C: drive. Do Not Use That.
At a certain moment the installation program will ask you if it should use
its own intelligence to assign diskspace, or if you want to do it
yourself. Do it yourself. Do not go for Fdisk when asked, use diskdrake.
The FAT partition(s) will be marked in a certain color. When you click a
partition, the screen will tell you what the program has detected there.
You can then select the second partition, where you want Linux, tell the
installer that you want to use that.

>2. Or---do I need to remove the E: partition and let Linux make it’s own
>partitions?  If so, can one make sure that both OS have about equal HD
>space?

This would make things a bit easier, then you do not have to meddle with
the installer to clear the partition first. Then you can make the
partitions for linux (swap, /home, /usr and /) directly.

Good luck
Paul

-- 
A friend is someone who knows us
and loves us anyway

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30







Re: [newbie] sound problem

2000-11-24 Thread Cyphfer

On Fri, 24 November 2000, "Oder Santos" wrote:

> 
> I have installed Mandrake 7.2 in my Toshiba satellite 315 CDS but harddrake
> don't detect the sound chip OPL3SA2. It worked fine under Mandrake 6.1. Can
> someone please help me solve this problem? Thanks in advance, Oder.

Run sndconfig from root.


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Re: [newbie] SBLive! and MIDI

2000-11-24 Thread Cyphfer

First you might want to check the levels by running xmixer from root.

As a last ditch attempt to get it up, try this command line from root

# modprobe sb io=0x220 dma=1 mpu_io=0x330 irq=5

This loads the SoundBlaster module and all the modules that go with it.  If you see a 
warning about the sound module already being loaded, you can safely ignore it.  If 
however, you see an error message about the interrupt number in use the command 
cat/proc/interrupts to examine the interrupts being used on your Linux system and 
check the documentation for your sound card. Then try the above command again with a 
appropriate parameters.



On Fri, 24 November 2000, "Joseph Markham" wrote:

> 
> had same problem  - gave up on midi as mp3 sounds better
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: John Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 3:12 PM
> Subject: [newbie] SBLive! and MIDI
> 
> 
> > Hi all:
> >
> > I'm running the Linux Central Distro of Mandrake 7.2 on a K6II-450.  Try
> as I
> > might, using sndconfig etc, I cannot get the internal(infernal?!) MIDI on
> the
> > SBLive to work.  Finally got system sounds and external MIDI to work, but
> no
> > joy in Mudville as to internal MIDI.  Midi/Karaoke(Japanese for "Tone-deaf
> > drunk with microphone") player shows external MIDI and four settings for
> > internal MIDI devices, but the only thing that worrks is external MIDI.
> > After many tries and much hair-pulling I finally got HardDrake to
> configure
> > the card and play the test wave, but sndconfig just reports that the
> device
> > is busy and tries to manually configure, then gives the same report.
> > Hep!  Am I still just expecting more than the system is capable of at
> > this time?  I would really like to ditch Windoze, and this MIDI thing is
> one
> > of the few stumbling blocks to doing so.  Thanks in advance!!
> >
> > John Payne
> >
> >

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Re: [newbie] konqueror

2000-11-24 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 24 November 2000 11:39 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> On Friday 24 November 2000 08:24 am, you wrote:
 when i right clicked, chose
> > properties i got the message 'this is a file, a directory
> > was expected' this happens to every file in /dev/i tried
> > and hangs konqueror each time, what does this message mean,
> > bascule

> basculeI dunno, I just got the same error when right
> clicking files in the /dev directory.  After clearing the
> error applet there didn't seem to be any problem??? Odd!?

   The 'files' in the /dev directory aren't files.  

  run 'du /dev/ttyS0' and you'll get a clue as to why

-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Problem with Floppy Drive

2000-11-24 Thread Paul

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, S. Stubbs wrote:

>Its that darn "supermount" thing again.

>- Original Message -
>Everytime I try to use fd0 I get the following:
>Could nor enter directory /mnt/floppy
>bash: cd: /mnt/floppy: Input/output error
>/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=ext2,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0

It is not as difficult as it looks. You wrote the floppy is accessible in
Windows. That means the floppy is FAT16 formatted.

Look at the FSTAB line, and the floppy is described as an ext2 device.
(fs=ext2)
That is where the problem comes from.

Change it to

/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0

and your floppy will run fine. And you don't even have to reboot for it.

Paul

-- 
A friend is someone who knows us
and loves us anyway

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Re: [newbie] WINE with Office 97

2000-11-24 Thread pablito

get the file from http://www.la-sorcerie.de/wine/index.html, but you know, I
think the various documentation files don't correspond with the builds.  I
really doubt you'll be able to get Office 97 to work under Wine.  I just
know that your configuration file isn't working at all correctly.  I have
not been able to get Wine to run even wordpad.


- Original Message -
From: SKLIM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] WINE with Office 97


Dear Pablito


Thank for your information. How to make a fake windows directory ? Then how
to make my wine work with office97.
Can you provided me a step by step .. I need help to make my wine work in
office97.


Thank You

Best Regards,
SKLIM

- Original Message -
From: pablito
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] WINE with Office 97


Oh -- sounds like you got an error in the config file.  The "Cannot stat the
floppy and cdrom" messages merely mean you don't have anything in them.  If
you got a windows partition Drive C is usually described as /mnt/win_c in
the config file, at least in Mandrake 7.2.  If you're trying to run Wine
without windows you still have to have a fake windows directory.
- Original Message -
From: SKLIM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 7:00 PM
Subject: [newbie] WINE with Office 97


Hi ! All


I am currently running Linux. I have download WINE program and I have
install it at my Linux BOX.
I am getting error message at console when trying to install Office97 at my
Linux Box.


Error Message :

Could not stat /mnt/fd0 , ingnoring drive A:
Could not stat /c , ingnoring drive C:
Could not stat /cdrom , ingnoring drive D:

Invalid path ' C:\windows for windows directory


Can some guide me what to do ?


Thank You
Best Regards,
SKLIM





Re: [newbie] konqueror

2000-11-24 Thread Alan Shoemaker

On Friday 24 November 2000 08:24 am, you wrote:
> having lost my entire home directory i did a brand new
> install and decided to try out lm7.2 and kde2, since the
> offer to test my internet connection failed during setup
> the first thing i did when installion was finished was to
> fire up konqueror and browse to the /dev/modem file to
> check where it was linked to, when i right clicked, chose
> properties i got the message 'this is a file, a directory
> was expected' this happens to every file in /dev/i tried
> and hangs konqueror each time, what does this message mean,
> i did ls -l modem from a console in /dev and got (from
> memory) 'lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root' which is roughly what i
> expected, i think the 'l' means it's a link? i don't know
> if this is a konqueror problem or some lm7.2 installation
> problem
>
> any help would be appreciated
>
> bascule

basculeI dunno, I just got the same error when right 
clicking files in the /dev directory.  After clearing the 
error applet there didn't seem to be any problem??? Odd!?
-- 
Alan




Re: [newbie] Time set

2000-11-24 Thread Cyphfer


 
Subject: Re: [newbie] Time set
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Cyphfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Nov 2000 06:27:49 PST

On Fri, 24 November 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Dennis Myers wrote:
> 
> > Ok, I give up. what does it take to get the clock to stay set in linux.
> > My bios clock is correct. My desktop clock changes every time I reboot.
> > I can not get it to lock in to my bios clock. Any Ideas?
> > 
> > --
> > Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> I don't have a really good explanation but I can tell you what worked for 
> me. I had Mandrake 7.2 installed on two different machines..same 
> motherboards but different BIOS revision dates. The one with the newer BIOS 
> date worked fine...the one with the older exhibited exactly the same 
> symptoms as you outline. Updating the BIOS to the newer version cured the
> problem on the malfunctioning PC. BTW...the machine that experienced the 
> proble also exhibited the same behavior with another distro with specs 
> similar to MDK 7.2
> 
> Paul

Hehe.  Windoze victim!  Most Unix/Linux systems keep their time using Univeral Time or 
Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), but Microsoft systems keep their time as local time.  When 
you set the time in either system, you set the CPU clock to that version of time.  
Then when you boot the other system, it interprets what is in the CPU clock 
differently and reports a different time.

The fix:

Run timeconf as root

The Configure Timezones dialog box appears.  Set your system clock to GMT by selecting 
the Hardware Clock Set to GMT option at the top of the screen.

Then Deselect the Hardware Clock Set to GMT option

Close timeconf

Finally reset the time to the proper value using the date command after you reboot. 

Good luck!

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[newbie] konqueror

2000-11-24 Thread bascule

having lost my entire home directory i did a brand new install and
decided to try out lm7.2 and kde2, since the offer to test my internet
connection failed during setup the first thing i did when installion was
finished was to fire up konqueror and browse to the /dev/modem file to
check where it was linked to, when i right clicked, chose properties i
got the message 'this is a file, a directory was expected' this happens
to every file in /dev/i tried and hangs konqueror each time, what does
this message mean, 
i did ls -l modem from a console in /dev and got (from memory)
'lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root' which is roughly what i expected, i think the
'l' means it's a link? i don't know if this is a konqueror problem or
some lm7.2 installation problem

any help would be appreciated

bascule




Re: [newbie] What software for scanners?

2000-11-24 Thread Jon Doe

On Thursday 23 November 2000 09:11 pm, you wrote:
> Jon Doe wrote:
> > I have an afga usb scanner that Mandrake actaully detects,
> > but what software do I need to access it?
>
> Jonxscanimage, it should already be installed.

It is installed, says it must be used by the Gimp. Ok, I have already tried 
the gimp and under aquire the only option is screen shot. Is there some other 
way to use it?




Re: [newbie] majordomo RPM

2000-11-24 Thread swells

In reply to what Mark said... check the following...
/usr/doc/majordomo-1.94.4/INSTALL
/usr/doc/majordomo-1.94.4/README
 I read those and got it up just fine...

-Shawn Wells

--

> I tell ya what...I'll trade you my copy of majordomo-1.94.5-4 for
> directions on how to get the darn thing up and running including being
> able to send commands to majordomo. I've been fussing with this thing for
> two weeks and just can't get it going correctly.
> 
> -- 
> Mark
> 
> / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
>   * in order to get the rats up from below decks
>   * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
>   *
>   * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
>   */
> 
> <*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 KompuKit had this to say!
> 
> > Does anyone know where I can get a RPM of:
> > 
> > Majordomo 1.94.5   or higher  for Mandrake 7.2 
> > 
> 
> 





Re: [newbie] majordomo RPM

2000-11-24 Thread skidley

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, KompuKit wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a RPM of:
> 
> Majordomo 1.94.5   or higher  for Mandrake 7.2 
> 
try rpmfind.net
-- 
Chad Y.
Registered Linux User #195191





Re: [newbie] Pine doesn't send mail unless using the root account.

2000-11-24 Thread skidley

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:

> did you chmod the binary to 755?
> 
> 

-- 
Chad Y.
Registered Linux User #195191





Re: [newbie] StarOffice as user

2000-11-24 Thread S. Stubbs

Question: what if you got the Staroffice5.2 rpm off of the
 App CD from the  nasty walmart version of mandrake 7.2?
I have installed mandrake 7.2 from downloaded ISOs, after
finding out how "incomplete" the "complete" version was, and
then, I wanted the Staroffice5.2 and knew it was on the App CD,
so I did kpackage as "root" and found it on the walmart App CD
and installed it. Will it be ok? or will I have to reinstall it
with the /net command or such?
Let me know cause I already installed it with kpackage.
Susan


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] StarOffice as user


When you install Star Office, you need to append the setup command with /net. 
So type this "./setup /net"

Then once you install it to /usr/local/whatever, as a user type "./setup" and 
it'll install about 4 MB of files in your /home directory. Then you can use 
Star Office as a user. 

If you need clearer/better info, read the instruction manuel you can download 
off of Sun's site. It's in the "Network Installation" section.

> Hey, was wondering if anyone could help me with starting StarOffice as a
> user rather than root.
>



-- 
Anthony
http://binaryfusion.net
Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.





Re: [newbie] Pine doesn't send mail unless using the root account.

2000-11-24 Thread skidley

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:

> did you chmod the binary to 755?
> 
> 
Yes I did of course chmod 755 /usr/sbin/sednmail
-- 
Chad Y.
Registered Linux User #195191





[newbie] Change Default User

2000-11-24 Thread Larry Varney

  I've just recently installed Mandrake 7.2, and I'd like to change my
selection for the default user that the system brings up automatically.
Is there an easy way to do this, any particular files I can edit as
ROOT? Or, do I need to put in the CD and choose UPDATE, and just skip
ahead to the selection for choosing the default user?
  Thanks!
-- 

Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
Powered by Linux!




Re: [Re: [newbie] WINE with Office 97]

2000-11-24 Thread SKLIM

Thank for you information ..
I will try to configure it. I hope i will sussuess

Best regards,
SKLIM

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] WINE with Office 97]


> On Thursday 23 November 2000 07:11 pm, SKLIM wrote:
> > Thank Marco
> >
> > I have StarOffice 5.2 . I just want to make my wine work with
> > Office97
> 
> While you can use wine to start Office 97, it's almost certain it 
> will be entirely unusable. The best source of info for setting up and 
> using wine is the wine-howto, paying particular attention to wine.conf 
> example configuration. Your wine.conf must accurately reflect the 
> location (ie, hda1) of your Windoze and other drives/partitions. That 
> is really the only thing that needs to be done to use wine.  Windoze 
> does not need to be installed, but then the Win-app and all it's 
> dependencies (.dll, .vdx, .ini, etc) must be.  It's prob'ly obvious 
> that this approach is very difficult. 
> 
> For the most part, few if any Windoze apps will run satisfactorily 
> with wine.  One notable exception is Forte's Agent (mail/news). If a 
> Linux user must maintain the ability to use windoze apps, the best 
> option is to dual boot, followed by a solution like VMware ($$) or 
> Plex86 (free), and as a last resort  wine.  While this is just my 
> opinion, I believe I'm safe in saying it's a widely held one.
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
> 
> 





Re: [newbie] Problem with Floppy Drive

2000-11-24 Thread S. Stubbs

Its that darn "supermount" thing again. 
Yep, I have the same woes. I do hope someone posts
a fix for you. I will be watching replies to your 
message. Unfortunately, I too am newbie like
you and need to have gurus post the fix.
Susan




- Original Message - 
From: John Batt 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 6:03 PM
Subject: [newbie] Problem with Floppy Drive


Everytime I try to use fd0 I get the following:

Could nor enter directory /mnt/floppy

Below is the msg I get when I try to go through the console as both user and 
root:

bash: cd: /mnt/floppy: Input/output error 

Below is my etc/fstab.  Is there anything in there that is preventing me from 
accessing fd0?  This also happens as root.

/dev/hdb1 / ext2 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/dev/hda10 /mnt/DOS_hda10 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/dev/hda11 /mnt/DOS_hda11 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/DOS_hda5 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/dev/hda7 /mnt/DOS_hda7 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/dev/hda8 /mnt/DOS_hda8 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/dev/hda9 /mnt/DOS_hda9 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=ext2,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0

FWIW, this only happens in Linux.  Floppy is 100% accessable in Windows.

John Batt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[newbie] SBLive! and MIDI

2000-11-24 Thread John Payne

Hi all:

I'm running the Linux Central Distro of Mandrake 7.2 on a K6II-450.  Try as I 
might, using sndconfig etc, I cannot get the internal(infernal?!) MIDI on the 
SBLive to work.  Finally got system sounds and external MIDI to work, but no 
joy in Mudville as to internal MIDI.  Midi/Karaoke(Japanese for "Tone-deaf 
drunk with microphone") player shows external MIDI and four settings for 
internal MIDI devices, but the only thing that worrks is external MIDI.  
After many tries and much hair-pulling I finally got HardDrake to configure 
the card and play the test wave, but sndconfig just reports that the device 
is busy and tries to manually configure, then gives the same report.  
Hep!  Am I still just expecting more than the system is capable of at 
this time?  I would really like to ditch Windoze, and this MIDI thing is one 
of the few stumbling blocks to doing so.  Thanks in advance!!

John Payne




Re: [newbie] Registered User

2000-11-24 Thread Mark Weaver

I thought it was amusing.  :P

Mark

/ * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
  * in order to get the rats up from below decks
  * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
  *
  * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
  */

<*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 root had this to say!

> That was S funny...mark...
>
> Mark Weaver wrote:
> >
> > You send $1 to every person on this list and then we all get together in a
> > quarum and decide upon what number to issue to you. then you point your
> > browser at this site:
> >
> > http://counter.li.org
> >
> > --
> > Mark
> >
> > / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
> >   * in order to get the rats up from below decks
> >   * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
> >   *
> >   * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
> >   */
> >
> > <*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>
> > On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 Dickman, Jeff had this to say!
> >
> > >
> > > How do I become a registered Linux User?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
>
>





Re: [newbie] Pine 4.30 (was Aurora)

2000-11-24 Thread Mark Weaver

ok...I've got it working now, but I still don't see the threading working
at all. Maybe I'm missing something here, but what should I be looking
for?

Mark

/ * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
  * in order to get the rats up from below decks
  * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
  *
  * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
  */

<*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 Mark Weaver had this to say!

> Paul,
>
> I wasn't able to get any of that working in 4.30. All that was working was
> the basic functionality of Pine. No colors, no threading...it was pretty
> plain vanilla. I wasn't able to get it to compile either. That was
> strange. I installed the precompiled binaries. I'm glad I saved the old
> binaries as renaming, cause I was able to reinstall them quickly.
>
> So, what things did you have to do to set everything up to get it working
> the way you wanted?
>
> --
> Mark
>
> / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
>   * in order to get the rats up from below decks
>   * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
>   *
>   *   REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
>   */
>
> <*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 Paul had this to say!
>
> > On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Roger Sherman wrote:
> >
> > Good thing that I did not trash this like all things about Aurora...
> >
> > >>I see from your sig line that you've a different version of Pine than
> > >>normal. Is there a new version of Pine out? Are there are reasons or
> > >>features in it that would warrent moving from 4.21 to 4.30? I love Pine
> > >>and there are a few things I've been looking forward to finding in Pine
> > >>one day. Like threading and a few others...
> > >
> > >
> > >Thats funny, Mark...I was going to ask you about that. I was on the
> > >Pine homepage, and saw the updates, and was wondering what you thought
> > >of them...
> >
> > Pine 4.30 works fine for me. There are a few things I have not worked out
> > yet. I pulled the source tarball from the site and compiled it myself.
> > Threading works pretty good. As you may have seen in another mail, there
> > was a little problem with colors, but that settled itself easily.
> > What I am wondering about is how to get URL's highlighted. 4.21 (which
> > came as RPM) did so, but I guess I either miss something, or forgot some
> > option while compiling the thing.
> >
> > All in all I like it :)
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] majordomo RPM

2000-11-24 Thread Mark Weaver

Yes...I have icq and the number is 27816299

Mark

/ * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
  * in order to get the rats up from below decks
  * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
  *
  * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
  */

<*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 KompuKit had this to say!

> SURE...I'll help you...do you have ICQ or Licq etc...?
> my uin:7110071
>
> or sendme it thru email at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Mark Weaver wrote:
> >
> > I tell ya what...I'll trade you my copy of majordomo-1.94.5-4 for
> > directions on how to get the darn thing up and running including being
> > able to send commands to majordomo. I've been fussing with this thing for
> > two weeks and just can't get it going correctly.
> >
> > --
> > Mark
> >
> > / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat
> >   * in order to get the rats up from below decks
> >   * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned!
> >   *
> >   * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496
> >   */
> >
> > <*REPLY SEPERATOR*>>
> > On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 KompuKit had this to say!
> >
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a RPM of:
> > >
> > > Majordomo 1.94.5   or higher  for Mandrake 7.2 
> > >
>
> --
>  Registered Linux User:167369
> <=KompuKit=>
> Kit Goins   ICQ# 7110071
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass.
> Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com
> WebServer:  http://kompukit.dyndns.org
> (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S & S 12pm-12am EST)
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>
>





Re: [newbie] Urgent! Switchdesk -- Trapped in Gnome!

2000-11-24 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 24 November 2000 05:52 am, Benjamin Sher wrote:

> I dowloaded the Red Hat 7.0 switchdesk files as follows:

Many KDE1 apps and system files will not work with KDE2.  KDE2 
lacks some functions and apps that KDE1 had simply because they could 
not be readied for use when KDE2 was ready.  This was widely available 
info before KDE2 was released.

> So I did a search for this file using Google (in Gnome/Netscape). I
> found it listed under "libstdc++-2.96-54.i386.rpm". When I tried to
> install this file, I got a message that this installing this file
> needed another file. I managed to install it anyway using the rpm
> -Uvh --nodeps.

Very unfortunate decision to try to upgrade or install system 
files, _especially libraries and headers_, using --force or --nodeps.
RH 7 is broken and buggy because they tried to make the jump from the 
2.95 libraries to 2.96.  Now you've done the same to your Mandrake 7.2 
system.  Benjamin, I know you're an experienced user, the situation 
with 2.96 (which is still unstable in today's cooker) is also easily 
obtainable information.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




[newbie] Grub/LILO

2000-11-24 Thread Kelly, Christopher

Ok, here today's question.

I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the
rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot.
How can I get it back to grub?

Thank you in advance.
Chris Kelly
Registered Linux user 185775





Re: [newbie] Sound card problems

2000-11-24 Thread Bill Carling

Worked like a charm, Thanks Cypher.
Cyphfer wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 23 November 2000, William Carling wrote:
> 
> >
> > Some Help perhaps?  I have an Sounblaster PnP 16 bit,
> > Awe 32 and cannot get my sound running ina KDE session.
> > I am using the Linux Mandrake 7.2 , on an AMD K6-500
> > machine, 128 m ram.  I wasn't able to get my 6.5 Linux
> > Mandrake to run with my ATI Rage Pro 128, but the sound
> > card worked fine there.  Used Hard drake, reset the sound
> > card to the same settings as detected under windblows,
> > but get an error referring to libGDSo.1 (not able to find
> > path?) Dunno, any help?
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> You need to run sndconfig from root.  It will set up your WAV and MIDI.  I tried the 
>same stuff you tried...no luck.  I am also running an ATI AIW Rage 128, 32 
>megs...Runs beautifully.
> 
> Give the sndconfig a try.  I'm sure you and others will be delighted to here the 
>penguin Music when KDE starts.
> 
> Registered Linux user # 195773
> 
> "Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything
> offered to me as the result of an unsolicited email
> message. Nor will I forward chain letters, petitions,
> mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers of
> others. This is my contribution to the survival of the
> online community."
> ___
> 
> Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now!
> http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html
> 
> ___




Re: [Re: [newbie] WINE with Office 97]

2000-11-24 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 23 November 2000 07:11 pm, SKLIM wrote:
> Thank Marco
>
> I have StarOffice 5.2 . I just want to make my wine work with
> Office97

While you can use wine to start Office 97, it's almost certain it 
will be entirely unusable. The best source of info for setting up and 
using wine is the wine-howto, paying particular attention to wine.conf 
example configuration. Your wine.conf must accurately reflect the 
location (ie, hda1) of your Windoze and other drives/partitions. That 
is really the only thing that needs to be done to use wine.  Windoze 
does not need to be installed, but then the Win-app and all it's 
dependencies (.dll, .vdx, .ini, etc) must be.  It's prob'ly obvious 
that this approach is very difficult. 

For the most part, few if any Windoze apps will run satisfactorily 
with wine.  One notable exception is Forte's Agent (mail/news). If a 
Linux user must maintain the ability to use windoze apps, the best 
option is to dual boot, followed by a solution like VMware ($$) or 
Plex86 (free), and as a last resort  wine.  While this is just my 
opinion, I believe I'm safe in saying it's a widely held one.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




[newbie] Urgent! Switchdesk -- Trapped in Gnome!

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Xaos and friends:

Using LM7.2:

I cannot begin to tell you how frustrated and bewildered I am by the
absence of the old "switchdesk" application in LM7.2.

I dowloaded the Red Hat 7.0 switchdesk files as follows:

switchdesk-3.6-1.i386.rpm
switchdesk-gnome-3.6-1.i386.rpm
switchdesk-kde-3.6-1.i386.rpm

There was a problem in installing the "switchdesk-kde" file. It demanded
a certain file. Here is the data:

[root@localhost sher]# rpm -Uvh switchdesk-kde-3.6-1.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is needed by switchdesk-kde-3.6-1
[root@localhost sher]# 

So I did a search for this file using Google (in Gnome/Netscape). I
found it listed under "libstdc++-2.96-54.i386.rpm". When I tried to
install this file, I got a message that this installing this file needed
another file. I managed to install it anyway using the rpm -Uvh
--nodeps. 

I then typed "switchdesk" in KDE'xterm. I logged out of KDE and typed
"startx" in the console. This brought me right into Gnome. Everything
seemed fine. I was just exploring to see if Gnome was installed
properly. After a minute or so in Gnome, I decided to get back to KDE
2.0 Final. Well, this is where the problems began. I typed "switchdesk"
in Gnome's xterm. It showed me all my options including KDE 2.0,
WindowMaker, etc. I selected KDE 2.0, closed all applications and logged
out to the console. In the console I typed "startx" hoping to be brought
back to KDE 2.0. No chance! No matter what I do, I am STUCK FOREVER in
Gnome. I even reinstalled my LM7.2 using "custom, update". When I booted
up, it once again insisted on booting up to Gnome, which is where I am
right now.

Can someone please help me get back to KDE 2.0, and please be specific
with your suggestions. I have wasted hours on this and I can't for the
life of me figure out why Mandrake had dropped "switchdesk" and left us
in the lurch. Or have I missed something? I did check out rpmfind.net
but found no Mandrake "switchdesk" files for the current 7.2 release.
The old "switchdesk" files (LM 7.1) do NOT work in Lm 7.2.

Would very much appreciate your help.

Benjamin

-- 
Benjamin and Anna Sher
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] Enlightenment pager problem

2000-11-24 Thread Tim Holmes

As far as I know, in Enlightenment, all you have to do is right 
click on what every little border you get with "no border" and
it should give you a menu.  At the very bottom of that menu it
should have the option of "Borders."  If you click there, another
sub menu will open up and it gives you the options of the different
kinds of borders available to you.  There are actually two different
borderd "made" just for the pager and are denoted as such in their
name.

I'm pretty sure that works for both Mandrake 7.1, and 7.2.
tdh

T. Holmes
Unixtechs.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.unixtechs.org/

"Real Men use Vi."



* Abraham E Mandac Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001124 00:10]:
> Enlightenment users:
> 
> I took the borders off the Enlightenment pager and now I want it back.
> Couldn't find a means to do it, though. Anyone know how it can be done, via
> some GUI menu or by editing some configuration file?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Abraham E Mandac Jr




RE: [newbie] Shut down problem

2000-11-24 Thread Paul Fuggle

At last someone else who has this problem.
Does the suggestion below fix this?

Fugz

-Original Message-
From: goldenpi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 November 2000 22:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Shut down problem


speed of light wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> I am having a shut down issue with my machine running Mandrake 7.2. This
> is what is happening. After I hit the shut down button, Mandrake begins
> a shut down sequence. And the machine actually beeps stating that it's
> shutting down but immediately after it shuts down, it auto reboots itself.
> This goes on and on. Basically, I cannot shut it down. In order to do
> so, I've been having to resort to shutting the box down physically. This
> is not good. I've even tried using a term command of init 0 to shut down
> but the box keeps doing the auto reboot thing.
> 
> Can someone please help me solve this problem? I'm a Linux/Mandrake
newbie.
> The box on which Mandrake is running on is an E-machines box (X86).
Mandrake
> is the only OS on it. I have no strange apps running on the box but pure
> Mandrake. The only thing I've done is get the box online (aDSL).
> 
> Please help me! Thanks!
> 
> __
> FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place.
> Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com

I cant tell you how to fix the problem, but I can suggest you disable
apm. in the bios and in the os.

do you know it is safe to shutdown while lilo or grub is waiting for you
to press a button?


-- 
==
Goldenpi- programer, unreal level creator, linux user and all round
geek.
If you are reading this, I sent this mail from linux.




Re: [newbie] Time set

2000-11-24 Thread mdknewbie-g

Dennis Myers wrote:

> Ok, I give up. what does it take to get the clock to stay set in linux.
> My bios clock is correct. My desktop clock changes every time I reboot.
> I can not get it to lock in to my bios clock. Any Ideas?
> 
> --
> Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842
> 
> 
> 
> 
I don't have a really good explanation but I can tell you what worked for 
me. I had Mandrake 7.2 installed on two different machines..same 
motherboards but different BIOS revision dates. The one with the newer BIOS 
date worked fine...the one with the older exhibited exactly the same 
symptoms as you outline. Updating the BIOS to the newer version cured the
problem on the malfunctioning PC. BTW...the machine that experienced the 
proble also exhibited the same behavior with another distro with specs 
similar to MDK 7.2

Paul





Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.2: installation from iso's problem... PLEASE HELP!

2000-11-24 Thread Dennis Myers
You say you burned the ISOs, did you make your cd's
by burning the disk image or just copy the downloaded file, I ask because
the first time I made the inst. and ext. cd's I just copied the file and
could get nothing to work. See the cd burning help on the Linux-Mandrake
ftp server site if the above is the case. If it is not, please don't be offended
if I was preaching to the choir. I am not only a real newbie, but have limited
computer training. (Self taught) I had Fortran IV some years back, well back
before dirt was invented.  Hope this or someone helps.Dennis

agent cooper [f.b.i.] wrote:
002001c05594$e7a2c9a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  hello all,i am attempting to install linux mandrake on my machine 
for the firsttime... i am a long time slackware user, and have loved the 
distributionmuch... i want to try out mandrake, and so far it seems to be a 
nicedistribution, but i can't FOR THE LIFE OF ME figure out why i can't get 
itto install  correctly here's my setup:amd 
k62-450mhzfic via 503+ mboard128MB ramnvidia riva tnt2 32mb video 
cardtdk velcoCD-RW 12/10/32florry drive3 hard drives... c: - 8.4gig 
with windows me [all fat32 partition], d: 1giglinux partition [and 125meg 
swap drive on d:], e: 15gig [all fat32partition]i downloaded, and 
burned both iso's for mandrake linux 7.2[Mandrake72-inst.iso, and 
Mandrake-72-ext.iso] fromftp://biglinux.tccw.wku.edu/pub/cdimages/mandrake/iso 
, [ACCTUALLYDOWNLOADED and burned them TWICE, because i thought my problem 
could bepossible curruption in the iso image when it got burned... but that 
doesntseem to be the problem]booted from the install iso, the 
installation process went smooth up to thepoint JUST AFTER i created my 
first user for the system [other than root], iget the error;An Error 
Has Occurred:Can't Create an undefined value as a HASH 
reference.click OK, since there is no other button...then i goto 
setup the bootloader [just to let you know, lilo has alwaysworked on my 
system, i run slackware, and use lilo all the time... currentlylilo IS 
installed on MBR of my c: drive]i choose "First sector of drive [MBR]" 
add windows, and linux, then gotoclick DONE, the the 
message;Installation of Bootloader failed. The following error 
occurred:- can only click OK -there is no other message so then 
i goto create a bootdisk, just so ican boot mandrake... i get error 
instantly after i tell it i have a disk inFIRST FLOPPY drive [WHICH I DO] 
 i get this message;An error occured mkbootdisk failed.This 
really sucks, i have NEVER had problems installing linux on my machinebefore 
[slackware], and i really, REALLY want to install mandrake, canANYONE please 
help??? i would be s thankful!! PLEASE?![EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
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Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842