[newbie] Nice?

[-michael-]

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
-- 
~enjoy!~
-michael-

[newbie] kmail problems

[angus]

Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help!
I have logged on to the net but when I try and use kmail to check/retrieve
my email nothing happens. There's definitely mail on the server waiting!
I have added an incoming account. I presumed the correct type to add was
"pop3" rather than "local mailbox". Then I configured the account with my
name, login, password. However I don't know what to put in "host" or "port".
Any ideas. I have presumed that "name" can be anything I want and that the
crucial items are login and password.

Also on the sending side (if I ever get there!!!). Should I use "sendmail"
or SMTP?
On windoze I used to use SMTP but don't want to assume?

Any help would be gratefully received.

Angus

[newbie] DHCP

[Michael (Nozy) Falzon]

Hi  all
  Just need to know if some has setup a dhcp with 2 network 

i have one but it not working to will 


subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 {
  range 10.1.100.100 10.1.100.150;


# Unknown Clients Get This Pool 
pool {
range 10.1.100.100 10.1.100.150;
allow unknown clients;
}


# Known Clients Get This Pool 
pool {
range 10.1.0.2 10.1.0.99;
deny unknown clients;
}
}

subnet 192.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 {
  range 192.168.1.100 192.168.0.150;
}

# optiondomain-name "mozysswamp.yi.org";

option routers 10.1.1.1;
option domain-name-servers 10.1.1.1;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;

default-lease-time 28800;
max-lease-time 57600;

Michael Falzon
Mozy's Swamp BBs & Red Dwarf BBs
+61 3 93314369  BBs and Fax
+61 3 93314368  BBs
+61409967695Help Desk 24/7

http://mozysswamp.yi.org
telnet://mozysswamp.yi.org

FidoNet Number  3:634/384  
BloodNet Number 53:100/101 
GameLink Number 50:100/103
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Gremlin Consltancy P/L
Phone : (+61 03) 9315 3855
Fax   : (+61 03) 9302 
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[Vic]

I hope that he does not think its "the os for everyone"
some will like it, some will hate it, and if he
does maek it, I hope hje will consider making
hsi version of the os still configurable and
do what *the user/operator* tells it to do
instead of doing what *it* wants to do.

I choose to use Linux because it obeys me,
runs clean, and gets the job done for me.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:
> Doesn't this just make you sick!  What is the world coming to, sheesh!
> 
> Keeping Up Appearances 
> http://newsletter.webtechniques.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eBgu0BTFgu0Ph0CCaZ 
> Eazel's Andy Hertzfeld is on a quest to make Linux the most 
> user-friendly operating system available.  By Yvonne L. Lee. 
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Default /etc/fstab

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

My /etc/fstab says

/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0

This is from a clean installation of mdk7.2 (not an upgrade). As you can see, 
it is no different to your line.

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:11, Jim Crossley wrote:
> In trying to update my kernel, I forgot to include the supermount patch,
> so when I booted with the new kernel, an init script disabled
> supermount, removing the entries in /etc/fstab!  And then like a dummy,
> I went and removed the line for /mnt/cdrom from the file thinking
> supermount would put it back when I booted from the old kernel.  It
> didn't, but it would have if instead of deleting the line, I just ran
> 'supermount -i enable'!  I know that NOW.
>
> Can some kind soul please post the correct /mnt/cdrom line from
> /etc/fstab for me please?
>
> I got things to work with this line:
>
> /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
>
> but I feel like I remember some other options being put in there by the
> Mandrake installer (7.2).
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- Jim
> http://www.lads.com/~jim

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Have you even *looked* at alternatives that *can* do these things? Before you 
start bitching, I can say that I'm sure that Sawfish can do at least half of 
these things, and its configurability is getting better all the time. Try 
looking at the settings instead of just complaining when all of what you want 
isn't there by default and served to you on a silver platter.

My apologies if I sound rude, but there are many other window managers out 
there apart from Enlightenment. Sawfish, in fact, is the GNOME default, and 
can do (IMHO) everything that Enlightenment can do and more.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:23, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> One more time:
> I want to be able to select a rectangle full of files and drag the
> lot to another directory using only the mouse. I want to be able to
> copy with the right mb, place with the left mb, and paste with the
> middle. I want to be able to call up a menu for gnome and Enlightenment
> complete by clicking buttons 1&2. I want to be able to start a program
> with a single click, and drag with the right mouse button instead of the
> left, which was a better way, because it made group select work. I want
> to call up the running items in a desktop by clicking 2&3. I want to
> delete by clicking 1&3. I want to be able to scroll faster or slower by
> using combinations of mb's. I want 1&2&3 to do something. KDE won't do
> it because W$ won't do it, and they intend to be able to port stuff to
> W$. Gnome won't do it because they listen mainly to W$ users, and W$
> users *have* *bad* *habits*.
> I don't want to restrict anything. You do.
>
> Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Thursday 14 December 2000 05:09 pm, you wrote:
> > > I guess everybody's entitled to their opinion, but to put down the hard
> > > work of the KDE developers (never used Gnome but I bet they've put lots
> > > of blood, sweat and tears into it as well) is something that I for one
> > > bristle at.
> > >
> > > The configurability of the KDE interface is clearly deeper than you
> > > have cared to go; I am certain that one of the developers could
> > > enlighten you as to how to adjust your interface to your preference(way
> > > better than me)
> > > _if_they_weren't_so_busy_working_on_making_all_our_lives_better.
> > >
> > > David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> > > > I guess I failed to make my point. There should be no double
> > > > clicking at all. There should be group select and drag. There
> > > > should be no nono nonono alt or ctl + mousebutton clicks ever.
> > > > Only one mouse button, never two, should bring up a menu. We
> > > > don't have this because the people at kde and gnome keep
> > > > trying to be like windows instead of better.
> > > >
> > > > -michael- wrote:
> > > > > I have a Logitec laser mouse with 2 buttons and a scroller. I am
> > > > > thrilled with mandrake's support of it in the kde environ. windows
> > > > > requires other drivers and so it's just another proof of linux'
> > > > > superiority imho.
> > > > >
> > > > > David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> > > > > > Ian Land wrote:
> > > > > > > Well, that's only true if you use a window manager like KDE.
> > > > > > > Others, like Gnome, use double-clicks. So, a single-click is
> > > > > > > not "the Linux way". The Windows gui can be configured to act
> > > > > > > like Internet Explorer, which also means single-clicks. This
> > > > > > > isn't an OS question, it's a gui question.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One of the "bad habits" is having to double-click
> > > > > > > > when a single click will do.  For those of us
> > > > > > > > who use both OS's it's quite distracting, and I
> > > > > > > > think the Linux way makes more sense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "They said I was mad; and I said they were mad;
> > > > > > > damn them, they outvoted me"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Nathaniel Lee
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows mouse support stinks, and it is terminally stupid to
> > > > > > continue to support the two button mouse. Both KDE and Gnome
> > > > > > are guilty of this, but KDE is worse because of a desire to
> > > > > > use the qt library for both windows and linux. For the Gnome
> > > > > > developers there is no excuse for their failure to use all
> > > > > > seven mouse buttons. Double clicks should be long gone by
> > > > > > now. :-)
> >
> > "You can please some of the people some of the time, and you can please
> > all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the
> > people all of the time."  Somebody famous said that, I forget who.
> > --
> > Dennis Myers registered Linux User #180842

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

RE: [newbie] Konqueror - The KDE Crash Handler

[Abraham Pinzur]

Not sure what it means, but I've gotten similar errors on several occasions
both in Konqueror and also when exiting KDE's Control Center. I'd be happy
to hear if anybody's got any tips.

- Av -

--
Abraham P. (Av) Pinzur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose Ricardo Sabino
> Sent: Friday, 15 December, 2000 10:44
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Konqueror - The KDE Crash Handler
>
>
>
>
> I use Konqueror as internet and files browser and the error Handler often
> close the application with the SIGSEGV 11, it is a bug in Konqueror as
> reported in the general tab of the error handler. The following error is
> shown in BackTrace tab:
> ...
> (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
> (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
> 0x40c2be39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #0  0x40c2be39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #1  0x40c8c8e0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #2  0x404984d0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from
>  /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #3  0x40bc9008 in sigaction () from
> /lib/libc.so.6
> #4  0x80f6d68 in ?? ()
>
> does anyone know how to fix this bug? is it a configuration bug?
>
> thanks very much the attention!
>
> jose
>

Re: [newbie] Soundcard permissions

[Roger Sherman]

OK Tom, I'll give it a whirl...thanks!


peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #190719

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Friday 15 December 2000 05:25 pm, Roger Sherman wrote:
> > Or at least I think it's a permissions issue. A user on my PC is
> > unable to use anything that requires sound; every time he does, a box
> > pops up that says:
> >
> > Couldn't open audio
>
> > So, what do I change permissions for? This permissions thing is still
> > really new to me so as much detail as possible would be great...
>
>I had this issue a while back when I forgot I had installed without
> setting permissions to 'low'.  So, first, set your permissions to low
> or at least medium.  Setting permissions too high will only make your
> life more difficult, and add very little protection (unless you're
> tryin to save your system from YOU ;>
>
>you'll prob'ly need to run 'chmod a+rx /dev/dsp' to enable audio,
> 'chmod a+rw /dev/midi' to enable midi, and 'chmod a+rw /dev/mixer' to
> get your mixers goin'.
> --
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.

[Roger Sherman]

So what are ya trying to say? ;-p


peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #190719

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Friday 15 December 2000 05:16 pm, Adrian Smith wrote:
> > hey Rog, glad to point you in the right direction.  i wouldn't pay
> > $173 for 128M either.  that's why i have waited so long to upgrade.
> > and i don't normally recomend companies or products or venders, but
> > crucial did me right, so i'll give 'em a plug now and then.  prices
> > are dropping like flies on hardware (except monitors -- oh how i
> > drool over a 21 inch screen).  i can't believe CD burners are going
> > for $200 these days - and probably even cheaper now & then on sale.
>
>Guess I'll put my 2 pesos in (again ;>.  Ram is what'll do. PC66, PC
> 100, PC133, PC, are just labels.  Good ram, is judged best by
> its' rating in ns (eg, 8) and it's CL (cas latency rating).  Even these
> specs are no better than the reputation of the manufacturer and/or
> vendor.  AND even then, it's still no better than how it actually
> performs in the real world.  Ask any overclocker.
>
>I've had ancient sticks of SDram (made before the PC66 label was
> even invented) that ran flawlessly at 133mhz with -0- errors.  I've got
> a stick of Micron/Crucial 7ns that'll run at 155mhz, flawlessly ... but
> I've also got an old stick of Mosel Vitelic 8ns that was in there right
> a long with it at 155mhz during the same test.  The Crucial is labeled
> as 'PC133 Cas2', the Mosel as 'PC100'.  Labels, including 'for Dell' or
> 'for Compaq' mean very little.  Ram is what'll do with -0- errors.
>
> BUT even more important is the stability and quality of the
> motherboard the ram (or anything else for that matter) is run on.
> Excellent quality boards like Asus, Abit, MSI, and Soyo provide extra
> IO support to the ram. A large part of that is by boosting the IO to
> 3.5 <> 3.7 volts rather than the normal 3.3, trace design, and extra
> capacitance.  That's why ready mades (Dell, Gateway, Compaq, ...) need
> good ram.  The motherboards they use suck.
>
>  Bottom line is ram might run great on one board, and suck on another,
> but even sucky ram is better than swap ;>
> --
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
>
>
>

[newbie] pcmcia eth0 not started by network script

[Olof Liungman]

Hi,

/etc/rc.d/init.d/network fails to start my pcmcia ethernet card, apparently
because I'm missing the file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0. How
should this file look? I've taken a peek at ifcfg-lo (loopback), but it
contains some data I do not have for the eth0 device, such as IP-address (I
connect via a DSL-modem using Roaring Penguins PPPoE software).

Note that the
ethernet card and my DSL-connection work fine if I start up eth0 manually using
'ifconfig eth0 up mtu 1500'. It is an incovenience, though.

My setup is Mandrake
7.0-2 (kernel 2.2.14-15mdk) on a Dell Inspiron 3800 laptop. The ethernet card
is from 3COM and is recognized by the pcmcia software upon booting.

Please reply directly or cc me as I had to leave the list some time back
because of the volume of mail.

Thanks,

Olof

Re: [newbie] Pine has a problem...

[Mr S Ganesan]

please reload pine the prob will be solved
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver
wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> I have a little problem. I'm getting an error message from Pine that I
> don't understand. I'm hoping someone can help me understand what Pine is
> trying to tell me.
> 
> When I attemtp to send a message I recieve an error message that goes
> like this:
> 
> [Mail not sent: .0.0 Can't create transcript file ./xfeBG031203228:
> Permissi]
> 
> then the error message ends and I have no clue what it's trying to tell
> me us wrong. could someone help me?
> 
> Stumped.
> 
> Mark
> 

-- 
S.Ganesan
Senior Scientist
Central Institute of Agricultural Engineering
Berasia Road
Bhopal 462038, INDIA
Phone:  0755-730986 (O)
0755-732105 (R)
Fax:0755-734016
Email<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Web Address:http://www.ciae.nic.in

[newbie] Pine has a problem...

[Mark Weaver]

Hi List,

I have a little problem. I'm getting an error message from Pine that I
don't understand. I'm hoping someone can help me understand what Pine is
trying to tell me.

When I attemtp to send a message I recieve an error message that goes
like this:

[Mail not sent: .0.0 Can't create transcript file ./xfeBG031203228:
Permissi]

then the error message ends and I have no clue what it's trying to tell
me us wrong. could someone help me?

Stumped.

Mark

Re: [newbie] Hostname

[Geoff Thomas]

Roger Sherman wrote:

> What is the benefit of setting your hostname, as opposed to letting DHCP
> set it when it logs in?
>
> peace,
>
> Rog
>
> http://www.slammingrooves.com
> Registered Linux user #190719
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Jim Crossley wrote:
>
> > Hi Geoff.
> >
> > Geoff Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > Where in the startup files is Hostname set? I'd like to permanantly
> > > change my hostname. Currently, the hostname is my  ISP IP address (???)
> > > GT
> >
> > The hostname is set by the hostname command, /bin/hostname.  But usually
> > that's done by a startup script (/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit) that reads the
> > contents of a configuration file (/etc/sysconfig/network) that contains
> > the name you want.  In that file, you should see a HOSTNAME variable.
> > Set it to what you like.  Keep in mind, however, that if you're
> > connecting to your ISP via DHCP (as you likely would with a cable or DSL
> > line), you'll save yourself some grief by appending "localdomain" to
> > your hostname.  So if for example you wanted to name your box Merle, you
> > would put this line in /etc/sysconfig/network:
> >
> > HOSTNAME=merle.localdomain
> >
> > That should cause your login prompt to "welcome you to merle."
> >
> > If you have a static IP address, then forget what I just said.  :-)
> >
> > Other questions that begin "where in the startup files...?" can often be
> > answered by the following command:
> >
> > # grep -i "text to search for" $(find /etc/rc.d -type f)
> >
> > Here's the output for a "hostname" search:
> >
> > # grep -i hostname $(find /etc/rc.d -type f)
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql:  pid_file=$datadir/`hostname`.pid
> > /etc/rc.d/rc:#   things, such as setting the hostname.
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:if [ -z "$HOSTNAME" -o "$HOSTNAME" = "(none)" ];
> > then
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=localhost
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:# Set the hostname.
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:action "Setting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: " hostname
> > ${HOSTNAME}
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   hostname ${HOSTNAME}
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   # Reset the hostname.
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   action "Resetting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: "
> > hostname ${HOSTNAME}
> >
> > If you take a closer look at rc.sysinit, you'll see that the file
> > /etc/sysconfig/network is "sourced" near the top.
> >
> > -- Jim
> > http://www.lads.com/~jim
> >
> >
> >

Thanks. Incredibly helpful. I was using localhost.localdomain and in one of
the init scripts this is apparently no good. I changed it to
myname.localdomain and it worked. Thanks again.
GT

[newbie] Konqueror - The KDE Crash Handler

[Jose Ricardo Sabino]

I use Konqueror as internet and files browser and the error Handler often 
close the application with the SIGSEGV 11, it is a bug in Konqueror as 
reported in the general tab of the error handler. The following error is 
shown in BackTrace tab:
...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
0x40c2be39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40c2be39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40c8c8e0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x404984d0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from
 /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #3  0x40bc9008 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x80f6d68 in ?? ()

does anyone know how to fix this bug? is it a configuration bug?

thanks very much the attention!

jose

Re: [newbie] NEED HELP SETTING UP ROAD RUNNER CONNECTION FOR MANDRAKE 7.0

[Mr S Ganesan]

There should not be any problem with the config of eth0. It might fail in
the initial stages for u may not have given the proper ip addrress etc.Pl
go to DRAKECONFIG and do the needful. Try giving the ip of 127.0.0.1 for
the loopback and 192.168.1.1 with netmask 255.255.255.0 Give ilt a local
name llike DHANAPAL and it will start working.

-- 
S.Ganesan
Senior Scientist
Central Institute of Agricultural Engineering
Berasia Road
Bhopal 462038, INDIA
Phone:  0755-730986 (O)
0755-732105 (R)
Fax:0755-734016
Email<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Web Address:http://www.ciae.nic.in

Re: [newbie] No sound from CD

[Jim Crossley]

UPDATE:  I replaced my sound card and everything finally seems to be
working fine.  The old card (SoundBlaster PCI128) was driven by the
es1370 driver; the new one (SoundBlaster Live! Value) by emu10k1.  I
don't know whether the card or the driver was to blame.

Contrary to some advice out there, I was pleasantly surprised to find
that I did not have to unmount the supermount'ed cdrom in order to play
audio CD's.

Jim Crossley wrote:
> 
> Yes.  It works under windows.  I've checked all the connections.  I've
> checked the mixer.  All other sounds (mp3, system) work fine.  I'm not
> sure where else to turn.
> 
> With a portable cd player at my feet...
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> Goldenpi wrote:
> >
> > CD could be a hardware of software problem. Does it work under bindows?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: John Agapito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 9:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] No sound from CD
> >
> > > My commiserations Jim, I have the exact same problem on 7.2. I'm using
> > > Gnome, so its nothing to do with KDE. Its confusing to me because I have
> > > all the system sounds, and I can use realplayer just fine - its just the
> > > CD, it won't kill me, but its annoying...
> > >
> > > Any wise words out there for us CD-less folks? (That's no seedy-less)
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Crossley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.2 with KDE2.
> > > >
> > > > When I try to play audio CD's with either xmms or kscd, they both appear
> > > > to work, and the latter displays the correct CDDB info, but no sound
> > > > comes out.  This is strange because:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Using xmms, mp3 files play fine.
> > > > 2) I've checked my mixer settings (kmix), and the CD is unmuted and full
> > > > volume.
> > > > 3) I can hear sound from the phone jack on the CD player itself, but
> > > > none from my PC speakers.
> > > > 4) The same drive played audio CD's fine with Redhat 6.1.
> > > >
> > > > The CD player is actually a CD-RW so, as impressed as I was with the
> > > > Mandrake installation transparently setting up the SCSI emulation, I'm
> > > > wondering if there might be a known bug in those situations.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > -- Jim
> > > > http://www.lads.com/~jim
> > >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[Mark Weaver]

Man! hasn't this thread died yet? Geez! I miss my Pine!

Mark

Roger Sherman wrote:
> 
> Especially for us blackbox users...
> 
> peace,
> 
> Rog
> 
> http://www.slammingrooves.com
> Registered Linux user #190719
> 
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Mark Johnson wrote:
> 
> > well, in this case this has nothing to do with Windows, but rather gaming...
> >
> >
> > But honestly, I don't understand why a multi-button mouse is a bad thing? It
> > seems like an ergonomic issue.  I guess this is the first time I've ever
> > heard that having more than one button on a mouse is a bad thing...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
> >
> >
> > Mark Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > > FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas!
> > yhs:
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > 1+2
> > 1+3
> > 2+3
> > 1+2+3
> > count 'em.
> >
> > Windows users have bad habits. Pandering to them
> > has seriously harmed linux software, and continues
> > to do so.
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[-michael-]

On Friday 15 December 2000 15:51, regarding Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux, 
you said:
>  Uhh, some dude/dudette said it.
>  (Sorry just messin!) :)
>
>  I think I am way off, I was going to say
>  W.C. Fields but that is not right,
>  he is the one who said
>  'Anyone who hates kids and dogs
>  can't be all bad.'
>
>  On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Dennis Myers wrote:
>  > "You can please some of the people some of the time, and you can please
>  > all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the
>  > people all of the time."  Somebody famous said that, I forget who.
>  > --
>  > Dennis Myers registered Linux User #180842
It was Bob Dylan in a song called Talkin World War 3 Blues
..."I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours- I said that"...
the next line in the song...
-- 
~enjoy!~
-michael-

Re: [newbie] Soundcard permissions

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 15 December 2000 05:25 pm, Roger Sherman wrote:
> Or at least I think it's a permissions issue. A user on my PC is
> unable to use anything that requires sound; every time he does, a box
> pops up that says:
>
> Couldn't open audio

> So, what do I change permissions for? This permissions thing is still
> really new to me so as much detail as possible would be great...

   I had this issue a while back when I forgot I had installed without 
setting permissions to 'low'.  So, first, set your permissions to low 
or at least medium.  Setting permissions too high will only make your 
life more difficult, and add very little protection (unless you're 
tryin to save your system from YOU ;>   

   you'll prob'ly need to run 'chmod a+rx /dev/dsp' to enable audio, 
'chmod a+rw /dev/midi' to enable midi, and 'chmod a+rw /dev/mixer' to 
get your mixers goin'.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 15 December 2000 05:16 pm, Adrian Smith wrote:
> hey Rog, glad to point you in the right direction.  i wouldn't pay
> $173 for 128M either.  that's why i have waited so long to upgrade. 
> and i don't normally recomend companies or products or venders, but
> crucial did me right, so i'll give 'em a plug now and then.  prices
> are dropping like flies on hardware (except monitors -- oh how i
> drool over a 21 inch screen).  i can't believe CD burners are going
> for $200 these days - and probably even cheaper now & then on sale.

   Guess I'll put my 2 pesos in (again ;>.  Ram is what'll do. PC66, PC 
100, PC133, PC, are just labels.  Good ram, is judged best by 
its' rating in ns (eg, 8) and it's CL (cas latency rating).  Even these 
specs are no better than the reputation of the manufacturer and/or 
vendor.  AND even then, it's still no better than how it actually 
performs in the real world.  Ask any overclocker.

   I've had ancient sticks of SDram (made before the PC66 label was 
even invented) that ran flawlessly at 133mhz with -0- errors.  I've got 
a stick of Micron/Crucial 7ns that'll run at 155mhz, flawlessly ... but 
I've also got an old stick of Mosel Vitelic 8ns that was in there right 
a long with it at 155mhz during the same test.  The Crucial is labeled 
as 'PC133 Cas2', the Mosel as 'PC100'.  Labels, including 'for Dell' or 
'for Compaq' mean very little.  Ram is what'll do with -0- errors.

BUT even more important is the stability and quality of the 
motherboard the ram (or anything else for that matter) is run on.
Excellent quality boards like Asus, Abit, MSI, and Soyo provide extra 
IO support to the ram. A large part of that is by boosting the IO to 
3.5 <> 3.7 volts rather than the normal 3.3, trace design, and extra 
capacitance.  That's why ready mades (Dell, Gateway, Compaq, ...) need
good ram.  The motherboards they use suck.

 Bottom line is ram might run great on one board, and suck on another,
but even sucky ram is better than swap ;>
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

[newbie] Default /etc/fstab

[Jim Crossley]

In trying to update my kernel, I forgot to include the supermount patch,
so when I booted with the new kernel, an init script disabled
supermount, removing the entries in /etc/fstab!  And then like a dummy,
I went and removed the line for /mnt/cdrom from the file thinking
supermount would put it back when I booted from the old kernel.  It
didn't, but it would have if instead of deleting the line, I just ran
'supermount -i enable'!  I know that NOW.

Can some kind soul please post the correct /mnt/cdrom line from
/etc/fstab for me please?

I got things to work with this line:

/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0

but I feel like I remember some other options being put in there by the
Mandrake installer (7.2).

Thanks.

-- Jim
http://www.lads.com/~jim

Re: [newbie] error in Enlightenment

[Cody Powell]

Try deleting your ~/.enlightenment/user_autosaved.cfg and see what
happens.


Cody


Noam Shifrin wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If someone could help me with this problem it would be much appreciated.
> 
> When I tried to install a theme in Enlightenment I suddenly couldn't
> access any of the menus or even log out. After restarting the 'puter and
> logging back in I could see the theme had stuffed the Enlightenment
> installation. After uninstalling and reinstalling the RPM's when I try
> and log in as a user the error message:
> 
> missing required data in "999{"
> 
> appears and I can't log in. However when I log in as root Enlightenment
> comes up properly. What does the error message mean and how can I fix
> it?
> 
> Noam

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[Mark Johnson]

Doesn't this just make you sick!  What is the world coming to, sheesh!

Keeping Up Appearances 
http://newsletter.webtechniques.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eBgu0BTFgu0Ph0CCaZ 
Eazel's Andy Hertzfeld is on a quest to make Linux the most 
user-friendly operating system available.  By Yvonne L. Lee. 


-Original Message-
From: Mark Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:48 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux


This is really nutty.  I don't get it that a system must have some sort of
arbitrary difficulty to be considered legitament.  What's up with that? I
took a human factors course in CS in college (VAX VMS/Apollo Suns (no
windows around)).  We studied lawsuit cases where system failures caused
injury and death, the cause of these failures were do to this "arbitrary"
complexity of the system, and the resolutions for those failures were
typcially was to understand that the human being was the weakest part of the
system; consquently, it was up to the system to reasonably guard against
human failure.

hmm...

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Daniell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux


Thats true, I believe that linux should not become like windoze 

windoze sucks and makes people lazy. Been their done that and now am
learning linux. I installed suse linux 7 pro and with 3417 apps it took
about 6.5 gb of my hard disk. There is so much in linux. I looked
through the minues in kde and was surprised at how many apps I have
installed now. I am having a ball learning linux. When I learn't windoze
it was easy it does every thing for you. Linux lets you make mistakes
and teaches you how to fix these mistakes, Linux is the real os

My 2cents worth

Regards Anthony Daniell

David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> 
> Mark Johnson wrote:
> >
> > FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas!
> yhs:
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 1+2
> 1+3
> 2+3
> 1+2+3
> count 'em.
> 
> Windows users have bad habits. Pandering to them
> has seriously harmed linux software, and continues
> to do so.

[newbie] Konqueror - The KDE Crash Handler

[Jose Ricardo Sabino]

I use Konqueror as a browser and the error Handler often close the 
application with the SIGSEGV 11, it is a bug in Konqueror as reported in the 
general tab of the error handler. The following error is shown in BackTrace 
tab:
...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
0x40c2be39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40c2be39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40c8c8e0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x404984d0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3
#3  0x40bc9008 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x80f6d68 in ?? ()

does anyone know how to fix this bug? is it a configuration bug?

thanks very much the attention!

jose

Re: [newbie] can't mount floppy, Input/output error

[bpremeaux]

Try this and see if that doesn't bring it back:

/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0

You could substitute auto for vfat.

Barry :-)


On Thu, 14 December 2000, "Donnie Green" wrote:

> 
> I just loaded up Linux-Mandrake 7.1 and the floppy drive will not mount.
> 
> The error that I receive is:
> mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
> /dev/fd0: Input/output error
> 
> The entry in /etc/fstab for my floppy is:
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto sync,user,noauto,nosuid,nodev,unhide 0 0
> 
> Can anyone help me?
> _
> Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com



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[newbie] Lixus just crashed

[blinddog]

Bizarre thing just happened, I was going thru news and my screens just 
disappeared and I was deposited at the logon propmt, my CD kept playing, my 
interenet connection remained and I just logged back in.

I was running 
KDE2
Kmail
Netscape 4.75
PAN newsreader
Cd player
Internet login script
and run Linux 7.2

Has anyone else had an experience like this? Any ideas?

Blinddog

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Even MacOS X (yes, the Mac!) is going to have options for multi-button mice. 
Even then, people still have the choce to keep their 1-button mouse if they 
want. People have the final say in what they want, not some monolithic 
corporation that doesn't really care about you, only about their wallets. If 
only MacOS X was like that in other departments also. For example, presently 
the GUI look is not easily configurable. Also (more as a side note), Apple 
recently asked VA Linux to remove Mac-lookalike themes (Aqua, AquaX, eMac and 
eMac-GTK) from their themes.org website.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:19, Mark Johnson wrote:
> well, in this case this has nothing to do with Windows, but rather
> gaming...
>
>
> But honestly, I don't understand why a multi-button mouse is a bad thing?
> It seems like an ergonomic issue.  I guess this is the first time I've ever
> heard that having more than one button on a mouse is a bad thing...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
>
> Mark Johnson wrote:
> > FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas!
>
> yhs:
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 1+2
> 1+3
> 2+3
> 1+2+3
> count 'em.
>
> Windows users have bad habits. Pandering to them
> has seriously harmed linux software, and continues
> to do so.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

[newbie] error in Enlightenment

[Noam Shifrin]

Hi,

If someone could help me with this problem it would be much appreciated.

When I tried to install a theme in Enlightenment I suddenly couldn't
access any of the menus or even log out. After restarting the 'puter and
logging back in I could see the theme had stuffed the Enlightenment
installation. After uninstalling and reinstalling the RPM's when I try
and log in as a user the error message:

missing required data in "999{"

appears and I can't log in. However when I log in as root Enlightenment
comes up properly. What does the error message mean and how can I fix
it?

Noam

Re: [newbie] USB scanners

[Alan Shoemaker]

Jon Doe wrote:
> On Thursday 14 December 2000 08:40 pm, you wrote:
> > What are you using to scan? My USB scanner is detected
> > according to HardDrake, though it does say "Kernel
> > Module: unknown" in the description. When I try using
> > xscanimage with the GIMP, it says "xscanimage: no devices
> > available." Are you using some different program, or is
> > my scanner just not supported yet? It's a Visioneer 6100
> > USB scanner.
> >
> > > But you probably don't need the 2.2.18 to have your
> > > scanner working. I have the 2.2.17 and my epson
> > > Perfecto 1200USB scanner is working fine. The mandrake
> > > kernel has the patch to have the USB running.
> > >
> > > Francisco Alcaraz
> > > Murcia (Spain)
>
> I don't see anywhere about xscanimage in The Gimp, where is
> it?

JonYou need to install /usr/bin/xscanimage as a gimp 
plug-in by creating a symlink called xscanimage to 
/usr/bin/xscanimage in ~/.gimp-1.1/plug-ins.  After that a 
new item called 'acquire image' will appear on the 'Xtns' 
drop-down-menu.  Then the 'acquire image' menu choice in gimp 
will access your scanner with the xscanimage program.
-- 
Alan

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[Vic]

Uhh, some dude/dudette said it.
(Sorry just messin!) :)

I think I am way off, I was going to say
W.C. Fields but that is not right,
he is the one who said 
'Anyone who hates kids and dogs
can't be all bad.'

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Dennis Myers wrote:
> "You can please some of the people some of the time, and you can please all 
> of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of 
> the time."  Somebody famous said that, I forget who.
> -- 
> Dennis Myers registered Linux User #180842

Re: [newbie] NEED HELP SETTING UP ROAD RUNNER CONNECTION FOR MANDRAKE 7.0

[NeoMatrix]

Did you install a dhcp client and set you card to get info thru dhcp?
If you haven't installed dhcpcd from the mandrake cd. then type 

ifup eth0

This will bring up eth0 interface .

Sofian
Get a Free Linux Guestbook at http://www.iamnewbie.com


On Thursday 14 December 2000 18:40, you wrote:
> For starters, try going through your BIOS and setting "Plug 'n Play OS" to
> "no". This worked for my SMC PCI card, which uses the Realtek RTL8029
> driver.
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:12, Travis Mcbride wrote:
> > I am getting an eth0 initilization has failed error
> > message at bootup.  Can anyone tell me how to fix
> > this.  The machine recognizes my ethernet card and I
> > know I have the right module setup.
> >
> >
> > Thanks Travis

Re: [newbie] Lixus just crashed

[Roger Sherman]

Yeah, X crashed on you, not linux, I believe. It happens to me sometimes
if I have a whole bunch of programs opened and decide, what the hell, let
me throw Netscape into the mix. It doesn't happen as much since I started
using Blackbox instead of KDE...I'm hoping it happens a little less when I
get my new 128 meg of RAM to augment my 64...as it is, it happens about
once a week...


peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #190719

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, blinddog wrote:

> Bizarre thing just happened, I was going thru news and my screens just
> disappeared and I was deposited at the logon propmt, my CD kept playing, my
> interenet connection remained and I just logged back in.
>
> I was running
> KDE2
> Kmail
> Netscape 4.75
> PAN newsreader
> Cd player
> Internet login script
> and run Linux 7.2
>
> Has anyone else had an experience like this? Any ideas?
>
> Blinddog
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Hostname

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 14 December 2000 05:36 pm, Jim Crossley wrote:
 So if for example you
> wanted to name your box Merle, you would put this line in
> /etc/sysconfig/network:
>
> HOSTNAME=merle.localdomain

   I like,

HOSTNAME=Tom.BigDaleEarnhardtFan
DOMAINNAME=BigDaleEarnhardtFan

I've been wonderin when this thread was gonna get around to edit'g 
(as root)  /etc/sysconfig/network  ;>
   
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] Hostname

[Roger Sherman]

What is the benefit of setting your hostname, as opposed to letting DHCP
set it when it logs in?


peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #190719

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Jim Crossley wrote:

> Hi Geoff.
>
> Geoff Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Where in the startup files is Hostname set? I'd like to permanantly
> > change my hostname. Currently, the hostname is my  ISP IP address (???)
> > GT
>
> The hostname is set by the hostname command, /bin/hostname.  But usually
> that's done by a startup script (/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit) that reads the
> contents of a configuration file (/etc/sysconfig/network) that contains
> the name you want.  In that file, you should see a HOSTNAME variable.
> Set it to what you like.  Keep in mind, however, that if you're
> connecting to your ISP via DHCP (as you likely would with a cable or DSL
> line), you'll save yourself some grief by appending "localdomain" to
> your hostname.  So if for example you wanted to name your box Merle, you
> would put this line in /etc/sysconfig/network:
>
> HOSTNAME=merle.localdomain
>
> That should cause your login prompt to "welcome you to merle."
>
> If you have a static IP address, then forget what I just said.  :-)
>
> Other questions that begin "where in the startup files...?" can often be
> answered by the following command:
>
> # grep -i "text to search for" $(find /etc/rc.d -type f)
>
> Here's the output for a "hostname" search:
>
> # grep -i hostname $(find /etc/rc.d -type f)
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql:  pid_file=$datadir/`hostname`.pid
> /etc/rc.d/rc:#   things, such as setting the hostname.
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:if [ -z "$HOSTNAME" -o "$HOSTNAME" = "(none)" ];
> then
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=localhost
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:# Set the hostname.
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:action "Setting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: " hostname
> ${HOSTNAME}
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   hostname ${HOSTNAME}
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   # Reset the hostname.
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   action "Resetting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: "
> hostname ${HOSTNAME}
>
> If you take a closer look at rc.sysinit, you'll see that the file
> /etc/sysconfig/network is "sourced" near the top.
>
> -- Jim
> http://www.lads.com/~jim
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] How to make xcdroast executable for users?

[Adrian Smith]

hi, i haven't seen anyone respond to this yet.
when i had mandrake 7.1 i downloaded the latest version of xcdroast for the site of 
the person who is writing it.  in the readme it said that the program will not run for 
anyone other than root.
if this is the same version in 7.2 (and i think it is, but will not bet on it -- and i 
have not read the readme) then that is the answer.  you can not do it.



Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> hellmut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11:15:18 PM 12/13/00 >>>
Hi!

Does anyone of you have a clue how I can make xcdroast executable for
users? chmod +x user /usr/bin/xcdroast didn't work.


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[newbie] Soundcard permissions

[Roger Sherman]

Or at least I think it's a permissions issue. A user on my PC is unable to
use anything that requires sound; every time he does, a box pops up that
says:

Couldn't open audio

Please check that:
1 you have the correct output plugin selected
2 no other programs is (heh...silly) blocking the soundcard
3 your soundcard is configured properly

But, while I was trying to get it to work in his profile, I opened a
terminal window, brought up XMMS as root, and it worked fine, which is why
I think its a permissions problem.

One further note - that grandiose music that playes when KDE opens takes
way longer for this user than it does when I'm logged in as user, and you
hear this click after it finishes, and you again hear the click for the
shutdown tune...

So, what do I change permissions for? This permissions thing is still
really new to me so as much detail as possible would be great...

Thanks!


peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #190719

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[David Raleigh Arnold]

One more time:
I want to be able to select a rectangle full of files and drag the
lot to another directory using only the mouse. I want to be able to
copy with the right mb, place with the left mb, and paste with the
middle. I want to be able to call up a menu for gnome and Enlightenment
complete by clicking buttons 1&2. I want to be able to start a program
with a single click, and drag with the right mouse button instead of the
left, which was a better way, because it made group select work. I want
to call up the running items in a desktop by clicking 2&3. I want to
delete by clicking 1&3. I want to be able to scroll faster or slower by
using combinations of mb's. I want 1&2&3 to do something. KDE won't do
it because W$ won't do it, and they intend to be able to port stuff to
W$. Gnome won't do it because they listen mainly to W$ users, and W$
users *have* *bad* *habits*.
I don't want to restrict anything. You do.

Dennis Myers wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 14 December 2000 05:09 pm, you wrote:
> > I guess everybody's entitled to their opinion, but to put down the hard
> > work of the KDE developers (never used Gnome but I bet they've put lots of
> > blood, sweat and tears into it as well) is something that I for one bristle
> > at.
> >
> > The configurability of the KDE interface is clearly deeper than you have
> > cared to go; I am certain that one of the developers could enlighten you as
> > to how to adjust your interface to your preference(way better than me)
> > _if_they_weren't_so_busy_working_on_making_all_our_lives_better.
> >
> > David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> > > I guess I failed to make my point. There should be no double
> > > clicking at all. There should be group select and drag. There
> > > should be no nono nonono alt or ctl + mousebutton clicks ever.
> > > Only one mouse button, never two, should bring up a menu. We
> > > don't have this because the people at kde and gnome keep
> > > trying to be like windows instead of better.
> > >
> > > -michael- wrote:
> > > > I have a Logitec laser mouse with 2 buttons and a scroller. I am
> > > > thrilled with mandrake's support of it in the kde environ. windows
> > > > requires other drivers and so it's just another proof of linux'
> > > > superiority imho.
> > > >
> > > > David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> > > > > Ian Land wrote:
> > > > > > Well, that's only true if you use a window manager like KDE.
> > > > > > Others, like Gnome, use double-clicks. So, a single-click is not
> > > > > > "the Linux way". The Windows gui can be configured to act like
> > > > > > Internet Explorer, which also means single-clicks. This isn't an OS
> > > > > > question, it's a gui question.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > One of the "bad habits" is having to double-click
> > > > > > > when a single click will do.  For those of us
> > > > > > > who use both OS's it's quite distracting, and I
> > > > > > > think the Linux way makes more sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "They said I was mad; and I said they were mad;
> > > > > > damn them, they outvoted me"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Nathaniel Lee
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows mouse support stinks, and it is terminally stupid to
> > > > > continue to support the two button mouse. Both KDE and Gnome
> > > > > are guilty of this, but KDE is worse because of a desire to
> > > > > use the qt library for both windows and linux. For the Gnome
> > > > > developers there is no excuse for their failure to use all
> > > > > seven mouse buttons. Double clicks should be long gone by
> > > > > now. :-)
> 
> "You can please some of the people some of the time, and you can please all
> of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of
> the time."  Somebody famous said that, I forget who.
> --
> Dennis Myers registered Linux User #180842

RE: [newbie] Special characters

[Ignacio Horcas Calvo]

- Original Message -
From: Roger Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Linux-Mandrake newbie mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:07 PM
Subject: [newbie] Special characters


> Can someone tell me how to access special characters, specifically the
> upside down ? and the n with the ~ over it as used in Spanish? I was
> typing a bunch of ? in a row and accidentally hit a couple other
> buttons...an upside down ? came out, and I can't reproduce it!
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> peace,
>
> Rog
>
> http://www.slammingrooves.com
> Registered Linux user #190719
>

Hi Roger,

you have to press 'ALT' key and with this key pressed, type a code in the
numeric keys on the right. You can see the code for each character at
http://www.geocities.com/chofeta/Caracteres.html
You have to type first the number in the row and then the number in the col.
ie: if you want to have a '|' simbol, you can get it pressing ALT + 124.

This web page is in Spanish (español). If you have any problem, e-mail-me

You can also buy a Spanish keyboard as mine :-)

Bye

Re: [newbie] NEED HELP SETTING UP ROAD RUNNER CONNECTION FOR MANDRAKE 7.0

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

For starters, try going through your BIOS and setting "Plug 'n Play OS" to 
"no". This worked for my SMC PCI card, which uses the Realtek RTL8029 driver.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:12, Travis Mcbride wrote:
> I am getting an eth0 initilization has failed error
> message at bootup.  Can anyone tell me how to fix
> this.  The machine recognizes my ethernet card and I
> know I have the right module setup.
>
>
> Thanks Travis

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

Re: [newbie] Modem U.S. Robotics 56K FaxModem External

[s]

You probably still need to setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port  
irq   spd_hi  

And you probably need to put this in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local  file to run 
each time you boot.  I think you still need to do this even if its a 
external.  Just input the above line when you find your port # and irq # in a 
terminial and see.  If it works then put in a start up script.  You can 
probably find your port # and irq # in some config files probably in /etc/ 
directory.  You might find them in Control Panel under information.
-s

On Friday 15 December 2000 03:37, you wrote:

> > Hi!
>
>   Well, I'm beginner in Linux and i have begun with Mandrake and Gnome
> Graphical enviroment.
>
>  I had a Internal Supra and when i read the problems with Winmodems i
> decided buy a Mode U.S. Robotics 56K FaxModem External and now I have the
> following problems (in Gnome):
>
>  To Configure my Modem i did:
>   1-> DrakConf->System Configuration-> Miscellaneous Services -> Modem
> /dev/ttyS0 checked an detect it and a message dialog appears and
> said that detection is O.K. in this port 2->DrakNet->Configure the lan
> conection-> Configure a connection throught normal modem Appears a message
> dialgo asking me in wich port is my modem. Logically i click ttyS0/Com 1 i
> configure my account with PAP authentification, and when I try to connect
> to Internet I no listen my modem.
>
> Well I wait a reply to this message and Thanks to everyone for your
> interest. Thanks
> Marc Perna


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Re: [newbie] setiathome 3

[s]

You could try chmod or chown it.  Anytime (read: most) something only works 
in root, you need to change permisssions.  
-s

On Thursday 14 December 2000 23:16, you wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Ok Ive been using mk 7.2 now for sometime without too much hassles...
> But when my setiathome client is finished its work unit, and tries to
> connect to the site for more data... it won't!
>  Unless I su root, then run the program againthen it will collect
> its data and go on its merry way
>
> Anybody got any ideas..???
>
> Thanks
> Graham
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> ***Today I copied my first cd using Linux, I couldnt get any of the GUI
> burners to work, so I used a terminal, and the command line :-)
> The outcome ... it worked, and I ended up writing my very first shell
> script for my machineim a happy kipper :-) ***

Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.

[Adrian Smith]

hey Rog, glad to point you in the right direction.  i wouldn't pay $173 for 128M 
either.  that's why i have waited so long to upgrade.  and i don't normally recomend 
companies or products or venders, but crucial did me right, so i'll give 'em a plug 
now and then.  prices are dropping like flies on hardware (except monitors -- oh how i 
drool over a 21 inch screen).  i can't believe CD burners are going for $200 these 
days - and probably even cheaper now & then on sale.

Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>>> Roger Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8:23:34 PM 12/14/00 >>>
Adrian, you rule. I went to crucial.com about 6 months, maybe even less,
ago, and 128 meg ram cost $173. I just went now, and it cost $70.16.
Needless to say, I ordered on the spot...I can't freakin wait!!! :-)))


peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com 
Registered Linux user #190719

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Adrian Smith wrote:

> Roger --
> i have a compaq also (and made of substandard hardware it is)
> get yourself over to
>
> http://www.crucial.com/index.asp 
>
> that is where i got 128M for $73 (including 2nd day UPS)
> you search based on your computer
> such as in my case:
> compaq
> presario
> 5304
>
> the memory you buy is guarented to work with your system or your money back.
> their prices were better than anyplace local -- even the "sale" prices.
> and naturally none of the local computer stores could even tell me exactly what ram 
>i needed.  they were all prepaired to "guess" based on what type of CPU i have.
>
>
> Adrian Smith
> 'de telepone dude
> Telecom Dept.
> x 7042
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>
> >>> Roger Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1:48:25 PM 12/14/00 >>>
> Unfortunately, its a bit more expensive than that for me...I use a Compaq,
> and have to use their RAM. Costs about $100 more...:-(
>
> Im not really that concerned about how fast my WM opens, or the first two
> programs I open either...but if I have 6, or 12 opened, and then I need
> Kpackage open...thats where I'm hoping itll help...
>
> Anyhoo, thanks for the response!
>
>
>
> peace,
>
> Rog
>
> http://www.slammingrooves.com 
> Registered Linux user #190719
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Adrian Smith wrote:
>
> > ya know, truth be told, i didn't really *see* much difference.
> > of course i have always asked the question "if your computer now opens a program 
>14 milliseconds faster, do you really know it?"  also, i added ram just before 
>upgrading to 7.2.  so that somewhat makes it hard for me to make before/after 
>statements.
> > actually, in some ways my system seems slower.
> > example:  when enlightenment is starting there is a noticeable pause.
> > before, there was no pause.
> > however -- someone on the list a while back mentioned that they had a similar 
>situation.  resolution was that their video card / monitor parameters were not set up 
>right, so the video wasn't as fast as it could have been, thus the computer *looked* 
>slower than it actually was.  i think i might be in that situation.
> > so, i can't honestly say my computer is way fast now --
> > and it's a 250MHz also, not the fasting thing around --
> > but, at $73 for 128M of ram, what the heck.
> > i duel boot windows & it doesn't behave any faster either.
> > my personal opinion, if you have the money, get at least 128M (i have 188M) but i 
>would say no more that 256M unless you are a power user.
> > when i did just have 60M my linux box ran just fine on that.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adrian Smith
> > 'de telepone dude
> > Telecom Dept.
> > x 7042
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> >
> > >>> Roger Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9:15:32 PM 12/13/00 >>>
> >
> > How much of a difference did you notice? I have 64 meg RAM, and am
> > strongly considering adding 128 more...will it be worth the time and
> > money?
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adrian Smith wrote:
> >
> > > this will shock everyone, but Tom seems to be right   =)
> > > *amazed silence*
> > > actually, Tom is about 99% right but
> > > when i installed linux first i had 60M ram and made a swap of 500M
> > > (i have disk space to burn)
> > > the swap was used somewhat
> > > i recently added 128M ram, and linux hasn't touched my swap space since then.
> > > i have not seen my swap used, at all, ever  since adding the 128M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Adrian Smith
> > > 'de telepone dude
> > > Telecom Dept.
> > > x 7042
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8:29:46 AM 12/13/00 >>>
> > > On Wednesday 13 December 2000 05:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Hi Guys and Gals,
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering how to mount a new Swap partion.
> > > >
> > > > When I originally did my install of Mandrake I made the swap 128meg,
> > > > and it should be at least double that (my physical memory is 128meg).
> > >
> > > .   I suspect you've bought into the mistaken and _very outdated_
> > > notion that swap should be 2 times ram.  128mb /swap should be more
> > > than enough with 128mb

RE: [newbie] A good external or similar modem to use with MD 7.2 / Harddrake + Sounds

[John Carlarne]

Hi All,

Just a note to say thanks for all your kind advice. I will let you know how
it goes.

John

Re: [newbie] USB scanners

[Jon Doe]

On Thursday 14 December 2000 08:40 pm, you wrote:
> What are you using to scan? My USB scanner is detected according to
> HardDrake, though it does say "Kernel Module: unknown" in the description.
> When I try using xscanimage with the GIMP, it says "xscanimage: no
> devices available." Are you using some different program, or is my scanner
> just not supported yet? It's a Visioneer 6100 USB scanner.
>
> > But you probably don't need the 2.2.18 to have your scanner working. I
> > have the 2.2.17 and my epson Perfecto 1200USB scanner is working fine.
> > The mandrake kernel has the patch to have the USB running.
> >
> > Francisco Alcaraz
> > Murcia (Spain)

I don't see anywhere about xscanimage in The Gimp, where is it?

-- 
"Never let the bastards wear you down!"
Registered Linux User 181996
ICQ 27396393

Re: [newbie] Spaces in names

[John Rye]

Meph Istopheles wrote:
> 
>   John,
> 
>   Whoa!  Talk about obsessive;-).
> 
>   But dude, isn't life just a little dull explicitly playing by
> the rules?  I honestly don't know how many, but I've had (in RH
> 6.0 & likely ~will~ have in mdk 7.2 after installing this
> weekend) numerous files with spaces, exceeding 14 characters, &
> even some illegal characters.  I think the deal is to go with
> what works.  There's always time to fix stuff when things go bad.
> How else do we learn?
> 
>   Meph

I shall therefore consider that my non-esistant left wrist has been
severely chastised by means of an obscelecent bus ticket...

Actually is not about rules - it's about being able to navigate through
one's system without the need for 'special' techniques. It's about
readability and such.

While I have a disability which limits my use of consoles, and prefer
these days to use point'n'click GUI's, it all depends on whether the
particular chunck of code you using has been organised to recognise
that white-space is not a commandline delimiter, and it's my belief
that few programmers would allow for this senario considering the
extra coding needed.

Meph, just consider this for a moment. You are called out to deal to
a system which you have never seen before. The docs for the system
have been locked away in a secure area (lost??). Some real bright
script-kiddie has this neat security system - he renames certain
important structures in the clients data area by means of inserting
spaces into file and directory names. I've been there a couple of
times, mostly in Win9x systems where the client software is run
to a series of structures by means of called batchfiles.

Referring to filename lengths: 
Linux is a *NIX clone - yes? 
In many cases software written to Unix specs runs under Linux - yes?
In many cases software written for Linux runs under Unix - yes?

Portability would tend to dictate that there be some conformity.

Jeezz - what a can of worms out of:

>I would have thought that a space was an undesirable if not illegal
>character in a filename let alone a directory name.
>
>Is this not the case?

Which in fact was a question rather than a statement.

Cheers from a severely chastised old fogey who actually really enjoys
messing about with opsys's/opsyses/opsysii
(Oh Hell what is the plural)!!
-- 
ICQ#: 89345394  Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
(The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)

Re: [newbie] About GeForce 2 MX

[Robert Pena]

 I was wondering is the GeForce also a video capture and TV out card?  Or does the company make one. I am told my ATI All In Wonder is giving me so much trouble in actually seeing KDE desktop because of possible refresh rate settings.Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

[newbie] Virtual P with rc.firewall

[SKLIM]

Hi !

I am currently setup a new Linux at my office. I am having a problem with
rc.firewall.
The problem is how to make a virtual ip allow at rc.firewall script.


My Linux Server :
Installation Diald - Done
Installation rc.Firewall - Done
Virtual IP - Done


Acctual IP : 192.168.0.1
Virtual IP : 192.168.118.1

My client station accept 192.168.0.1 gateway to go out but not the virtual
IP

[newbie] Special characters

[Roger Sherman]

Can someone tell me how to access special characters, specifically the
upside down ? and the n with the ~ over it as used in Spanish? I was
typing a bunch of ? in a row and accidentally hit a couple other
buttons...an upside down ? came out, and I can't reproduce it!

Thanks!


peace,

Rog

http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #190719

Re: [newbie] Hostname

[Jim Crossley]

Hi Geoff.

Geoff Thomas wrote:
> 
> Where in the startup files is Hostname set? I'd like to permanantly
> change my hostname. Currently, the hostname is my  ISP IP address (???)
> GT

The hostname is set by the hostname command, /bin/hostname.  But usually
that's done by a startup script (/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit) that reads the
contents of a configuration file (/etc/sysconfig/network) that contains
the name you want.  In that file, you should see a HOSTNAME variable. 
Set it to what you like.  Keep in mind, however, that if you're
connecting to your ISP via DHCP (as you likely would with a cable or DSL
line), you'll save yourself some grief by appending "localdomain" to
your hostname.  So if for example you wanted to name your box Merle, you
would put this line in /etc/sysconfig/network:

HOSTNAME=merle.localdomain

That should cause your login prompt to "welcome you to merle."

If you have a static IP address, then forget what I just said.  :-)

Other questions that begin "where in the startup files...?" can often be
answered by the following command:

# grep -i "text to search for" $(find /etc/rc.d -type f)

Here's the output for a "hostname" search:

# grep -i hostname $(find /etc/rc.d -type f)
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql:  pid_file=$datadir/`hostname`.pid
/etc/rc.d/rc:#   things, such as setting the hostname.
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:if [ -z "$HOSTNAME" -o "$HOSTNAME" = "(none)" ];
then
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=localhost
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:# Set the hostname.
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:action "Setting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: " hostname
${HOSTNAME}
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   hostname ${HOSTNAME}
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   # Reset the hostname.
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:   action "Resetting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: "
hostname ${HOSTNAME}

If you take a closer look at rc.sysinit, you'll see that the file
/etc/sysconfig/network is "sourced" near the top.

-- Jim
http://www.lads.com/~jim

Re: [newbie] No sound from CD

[Jim Crossley]

UPDATE:  I replaced my sound card and everything finally seems to be
working fine.  The old card (SoundBlaster PCI128) was driven by the
es1370 driver; the new one (SoundBlaster Live! Value) by emu10k1.  I
don't know whether the card or the driver was to blame.

Contrary to some advice out there, I was pleasantly surprised to find
that I did not have to unmount the supermount'ed cdrom in order to play
audio CD's.

Jim Crossley wrote:
> 
> Yes.  It works under windows.  I've checked all the connections.  I've
> checked the mixer.  All other sounds (mp3, system) work fine.  I'm not
> sure where else to turn.
> 
> With a portable cd player at my feet...
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> Goldenpi wrote:
> >
> > CD could be a hardware of software problem. Does it work under bindows?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: John Agapito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 9:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] No sound from CD
> >
> > > My commiserations Jim, I have the exact same problem on 7.2. I'm using
> > > Gnome, so its nothing to do with KDE. Its confusing to me because I have
> > > all the system sounds, and I can use realplayer just fine - its just the
> > > CD, it won't kill me, but its annoying...
> > >
> > > Any wise words out there for us CD-less folks? (That's no seedy-less)
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Crossley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just installed Mandrake 7.2 with KDE2.
> > > >
> > > > When I try to play audio CD's with either xmms or kscd, they both appear
> > > > to work, and the latter displays the correct CDDB info, but no sound
> > > > comes out.  This is strange because:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Using xmms, mp3 files play fine.
> > > > 2) I've checked my mixer settings (kmix), and the CD is unmuted and full
> > > > volume.
> > > > 3) I can hear sound from the phone jack on the CD player itself, but
> > > > none from my PC speakers.
> > > > 4) The same drive played audio CD's fine with Redhat 6.1.
> > > >
> > > > The CD player is actually a CD-RW so, as impressed as I was with the
> > > > Mandrake installation transparently setting up the SCSI emulation, I'm
> > > > wondering if there might be a known bug in those situations.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > -- Jim
> > > > http://www.lads.com/~jim
> > >

Re: [newbie] Switchdesk

[Paul]

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, The BOFH wrote:

>
>When I installed MDK 7.2 a month or so ago, it came up in Gnome.  I swear
>that at that point I used switchdesk to change to KDE.  Now I'd like to
>play with Gnome some more but I cannot find it on the system anywhere.
>
>I've persused the list archives, and found some messages indicating that I
>should create a .Xclients file, which I did, but startx still brings me up
>in KDE.

Switchdesk disappeared here also.
You can check if there is an .xinitrc file that messes things up.
In your .Xdefaults you could write

exec gnome-session

Make sure that your .Xclients file does not kick you into KDE though. You
can put the exec in there instead of in .Xdefaults.

and that should get you back to gnome.
Paul

-- 
Why use Windows, when there is a door?

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31

RE: [newbie] Switchdesk

[Helsby, James]

Try using init 5, that will bring you to the gui login screen. You can then
choose kde, gnome, sawmill, etc. 

Cheers,
James

-Original Message-
From: The BOFH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Switchdesk


When I installed MDK 7.2 a month or so ago, it came up in Gnome.  I swear
that at that point I used switchdesk to change to KDE.  Now I'd like to
play with Gnome some more but I cannot find it on the system anywhere.

I've persused the list archives, and found some messages indicating that I
should create a .Xclients file, which I did, but startx still brings me up
in KDE.

Do I also need to modify some other file?  Was switchdesk truly removed by
some upgrade I did along the way?

Thanks,

S

Re: [newbie] Webmin can't be reached

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 15 December 2000 10:37 am, Sven Hohage wrote:
> Hello,
> I' m running in a problem.
> I run 7.2 and before reinstalling everything yesterday evening things
> were fine with webmin.
> Now I can't reach localhost:1 anymore!!

Try adding a 's', ie,  https://
.  ^^
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

I agree. If you start forcing methods of doing things onto users, then it is 
just M$ all over again. The key to Linux is choice. I don't want a 
Stalin/Hitler/Ze Dong/Gates telling me what to do! I personally hate single 
clicks. I find that I can configure my window manager (Sawfish) to do funky 
things with double-clicks, thus giving me much more functionality. If someone 
else wants single-clicking, they can have it, but not at the expense of 
others like myself.

Come to think of it, you *can* make Sawfish (and hence most of GNOME) to 
accept single clicks. If David Raleigh Arnold had even bothered to look at 
the Sawfish control centre, he would have noticed that this is very possible.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:42, Mark Johnson wrote:
> huh?  why would less options ever be favorable for a linux environment.
> It's all about user preference and flexible configurations.
>
> I don't think it's about shoulds and shouldn'ts, I can't imagine any moral
> reason why a user should be disallowed from activating double clicking, or
> for that matter why a user should be disallowed from activating single
> clicking.
>
> FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas!
>
> (ps: is unix/linux the home of the three button mouse?)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
>
>
> I guess I failed to make my point. There should be no double
> clicking at all. There should be group select and drag. There
> should be no nono nonono alt or ctl + mousebutton clicks ever.
> Only one mouse button, never two, should bring up a menu. We
> don't have this because the people at kde and gnome keep
> trying to be like windows instead of better.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

Re: [newbie] Webmin can't be reached

[Alan Shoemaker]

Sven Hohage wrote:
> Hello,
> I' m running in a problem.
> I run 7.2 and before reinstalling everything yesterday
> evening things were fine with webmin.
> Now I can't reach localhost:1 anymore!!
> In Linuxconf I checked Webmin is running.
> Must be Netscape?!
> I sit behind a proxy and I've told Netscape to ignore
> 'localhost'. Every help is very appreciated.

Sventype this:

https://localhost:1

notice the 's' added to the end of http.
-- 
Alan

Re: [newbie] Making a new SWAP partition.

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:34, Adrian Smith wrote:
> ya know, truth be told, i didn't really *see* much difference.
> of course i have always asked the question "if your computer now opens a
> program 14 milliseconds faster, do you really know it?"  also, i added ram
> just before upgrading to 7.2.  so that somewhat makes it hard for me to
> make before/after statements. actually, in some ways my system seems
> slower.
> example:  when enlightenment is starting there is a noticeable pause.
> before, there was no pause.

This is likely a 7.2 problem rather than a RAM-related one. I have had speed 
problems with Sawfish/GNOME starting up ever since I got 7.2.

> however -- someone on the list a while back mentioned that they had a
> similar situation.  resolution was that their video card / monitor
> parameters were not set up right, so the video wasn't as fast as it could
> have been, thus the computer *looked* slower than it actually was.  i think
> i might be in that situation. so, i can't honestly say my computer is way
> fast now --
> and it's a 250MHz also, not the fasting thing around --
> but, at $73 for 128M of ram, what the heck.
> i duel boot windows & it doesn't behave any faster either.
> my personal opinion, if you have the money, get at least 128M (i have 188M)
> but i would say no more that 256M unless you are a power user. when i did
> just have 60M my linux box ran just fine on that.

You only need extra RAM if you use your swap often. You will not notice much 
of a performance gain if you don't use (much) swap. This depends on how many 
and what applications you run at the same time. If all you do is check your 
e-mail, then you probably won't notice much of a difference at all. If, 
however, you use a large programme like Netscape often, then it could make a 
big difference. Your desktop environment makes a difference here too. GNOME 
and KDE are very memory hungry, Blackbox and IceWM are not.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

Re: [newbie] Hostname

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

As root, load linuxconf. Go to Networking -> Host name and IP network devices 
-> Host name. You can change your host name here.

In versions of Mandrake before 7.2, you could set your host name in the file 
/etc/hostname. I have found that this file no longer works, and if you have 
it you can even delete it with no side effects.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:50, Geoff Thomas wrote:
> Where in the startup files is Hostname set? I'd like to permanantly
> change my hostname. Currently, the hostname is my  ISP IP address (???)
> GT

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

RE: [newbie] Gone for the Holidays

[John Hart]

Well, Merry Christmas to you too  ! ! ! ! !

John Hart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
843.529.0678 x417



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CMC
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Gone for the Holidays


I sent several Unsub requests- why am I still getting mail. I need to cancel
untill my return from my holiday..

Merry Christmas Everyone

[newbie] Switchdesk

[The BOFH]

When I installed MDK 7.2 a month or so ago, it came up in Gnome.  I swear 
that at that point I used switchdesk to change to KDE.  Now I'd like to 
play with Gnome some more but I cannot find it on the system anywhere.

I've persused the list archives, and found some messages indicating that I 
should create a .Xclients file, which I did, but startx still brings me up 
in KDE.

Do I also need to modify some other file?  Was switchdesk truly removed by 
some upgrade I did along the way?

Thanks,

S

[newbie] Gone for the Holidays

[CMC]

I sent several Unsub requests- why am I still getting mail. I need to cancel
untill my return from my holiday..

Merry Christmas Everyone

[newbie] Webmin can't be reached

[Sven Hohage]

Hello,
I' m running in a problem.
I run 7.2 and before reinstalling everything yesterday evening things were 
fine with webmin.
Now I can't reach localhost:1 anymore!!
In Linuxconf I checked Webmin is running.
Must be Netscape?!
I sit behind a proxy and I've told Netscape to ignore 'localhost'.
Every help is very appreciated.
-- 
LA PASTA BASTA!!

[newbie] DIVA T/A ISDN modem

[SKLIM]

Hi !
 
 
Did anyone know how to setup DIVA isdn modem at 
Linux Server ??
 
 
I need some guild line ..
 
 
Best regards,
SKLIM
 
 

[newbie] USB Scanner

[Francisco Alcaraz Ariza]

Dear Antony; first of all you must be sure you 
have the usb module (Mandrake 7.2. install the patch for the 2.2.17-21 kernel 
and it is avalaible). Afterthat it is important to know if your scanner is 
supported; in the sane page (http://www.mostang.com/sane/sane-backends.html) 
I can not see it neither in the very interesting http://www.buzzard.org.uk/jonathan/scanners-usb.html; 
but in this last page there is a link to two mailing list where you could be 
helped by experts; perhaps your scanner it is supported using the appropriate 
commands.
I hope this will help 
you
 
Francisco Alcaraz ArizaDepartamento de 
Biología VegetalUniversidad de MurciaCampus de 
EspinardoE-30100 Murcia, España (Spain)Pone: 
int+34+968364976e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux

[abramo]

whatever.  this is a dumb conversation.  try playing quake3 or UT with only a single 
mouse button.

Mice have more then one button because people use them for more then navigating their 
desktop GUI.

Oh yes, in windows everything on my machine is set to single click but in windowmaker 
I like double click.


Abe


>  Original Message ---
> From: Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:19:07 -0600
> 
> well, in this case this has nothing to do with Windows, but rather
> gaming...
> 
> 
> But honestly, I don't understand why a multi-button mouse is a bad thing?
> It
> seems like an ergonomic issue.  I guess this is the first time I've ever
> heard that having more than one button on a mouse is a bad thing...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Raleigh Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
> 
> 
> Mark Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > FYI, I asked for 6 button mouse for Christmas!
> yhs:
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 1+2
> 1+3
> 2+3
> 1+2+3
> count 'em. 
> 
> Windows users have bad habits. Pandering to them
> has seriously harmed linux software, and continues
> to do so.
> 
> 

Jesus saves, 
Allah forgives,
Chuthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.

Re: [newbie] AvpLinux?

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

AvpLinux, I believe, is a version of AntiViral ToolKit Pro (AVP, since 
renamed to AVX) for Linux. Since there are no real virus treats to Linux (due 
to its better, more secure design and general lack of interest by virus 
developers), this is not a programme to detect Linux virii. Instead, this 
scans for WinDOS virii as they come through. This is only really useul if you 
have a dual-boot machine and you download Windoze files with Linux, or if 
your Linux box acts as some kind of hub/server/firewall to a network of 
Windoze boxes. The virus scanner will stop all WinDOS virii before they get 
to the other computers, so that you won't have to keep an up-to-date virus 
scanner on each machine (a nightmare for administrators).

AVX (www.avx.com) is giving this software away for free, so it may be worth 
investigating. Apparently it runs as a daemon, scanning all incoming packets.

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:38, SKLIM wrote:
> Sorry ...what is AvpLinux ? Can someone explain to me ?
>
>
> Best Regards,
> SKLIM
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 4:37 PM
> Subject: [newbie] AvpLinux?
>
> > Could someone explain to a newbie how to get the AvpLinux to work?  I
> > installed from cds thru rpmdrake, but can't seem to get it to work.
> >
> > TIA,
> > -s

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.