RE: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
iSNT A P60 A PENTIUM THOUGH? David and Alicia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herman Christiani Sent: 29 December 2000 20:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the > impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be used on > older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i saw the download > size. How much disk space will a bare install need? > > David and Alicia > > Would mandrake run on a p60, 540 mb hd, ? Hi, Not likely, Mandrake needs a Pentium to run well, you are better off with something like Red Hat 5.2 for this machine. Cheers, Herman > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Revenant > Sent: 29 December 2000 10:24 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] basic question > > > Define "faster than windows". Using KDE I've noticed there is quite > often a noticable delay waiting for windows to appear - far longer than > in windows. > > > Herman Christiani wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, you can and it will run faster then windows, > > but you forgot to mention the amount of ram? > > Linux likes it's ram, the more the better. > > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > Can i install mandrake on my (shame) p200mmx 3.3gig machine? > > > will it run apps faster than windoze bloatware? > > > David and Alicia > > > > Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design > For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- > world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. > ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
Re: [newbie] small question
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, you wrote: > As I am typeing this I am thinking of two small errors I just had while getting > email. > > The first is a missing charset error./ Easy to fix if I could just find the > dialog to set up fonts. > > The OOther is this speed. Now I am getting email something is makeing the > computer hang fot a fere seconds before anything happens. As I type nothing > appearso nt the screen for about 5 secds. That is why my typeing is dso bad. > Just wondering what could be causeing these slow downs.. I just had to > reinstall linux after bindows refused to upgrade without a full install and I > forgot to unplug my linux drives. > > Final problem is my 8 gig windows partiton, hdb9. Windows wont see it because > my linux partitions come before it. I could fix the problem but not without > completly reformating and repatritinh 3 for my drives. > scratch that network one. I just set it up and found it only has 2mi ram. It can take up to for if I add some 30 pin sims (whiich I have in the loft :)) but thats still barely enough to run loaf. And the hard drive controler is non-existant. > Now that I thyink about it I have one more. I have just gotten my ncrishtmas > money and it is going towards a new network card. Is there anything I should > know before I plugin this card (isa, bnc) in here. Another will go in an old > 386 8mi ram which will be used as a fileserver and for some work im doing with > distributed computing. th4e server will be running linux and will be running > only on remote admin via telnet and ftp soon as Im done with some surgury on the > keyboard controler. -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
[newbie] Gimp & xscanimage
Hallo!! I've got a scanner and i load it's module whenever i want to use it. The problem is that i have to scan using xscanimage because under Gimp the option adquire shows only "screen shot" 8-? What else do i have to do? Thanks!! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
[newbie] KDE 2.1 CVS Update RPM's for 7.2 (and 7.1 and 7.0, with some work)
Hello, I have made a set of update RPM's for 7.2 available for KDE 2.1 CVS code. The RPM's are made from CVS code of 12-29-2000. These RPM's are NOT supported by MandrakeSoft. Please report bugs in the code to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using the bug reporting utilities found on Help-->Report Bugs in any KDE application. Please report any packaging problems to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages posted in the mailling lists regarding these RPM's will be ignored. You can find these rpm's at: FTP: ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE/ (primary) ftp://us.mandrakesoft.com/pub/kde/KDE_UPDATE/ (mirror) HTTP: http://www.nebsllc.com/KDE_UPDATE/ (primary) The source RPM's are available as well but are 100% unsupported. I will ignore any messages regarding these, they built here but as the code is beta at this time some of them needed some help compiling. (hint: look up the --short-circuit flag). User's of MandrakeUpdate can point to any of the above directories but please remember that MandrakeUpdate can not install dependencies. The directory also includes an update to cups, qtcups, and kups which adds some dependencies. While these are NOT required for the KDE update you may want to consider doing these updates manually. Again, these are unsupported and just provided because I needed to do them anyways. For install instructions see: http://www.kde.org/install-binaries.html Mandrake 7.0 and 7.1 Users: These RPM's should work for you as well but you will need to find several dependencies to get them to install. You can find the directions for these at: http://kde2.newmail.ru/mandrake_rpms.html - I have not tested this, but am told it works. -Chris ---
Re: [newbie] Fast CPU
Does anyone here know why a background cann't be desplayed on KDM. Also is there a fix for it. I am useing the KDE that came with the downloaded version of Mandrake 7.2 Cheers to anyon that can help. And happy new year to you all. Mark Hillary
[newbie] Kernel Source
Hello, Gang: I'm taking my first stab at messing with the Kernel. Such as recompiling and then I'm going to compile a new kernel. The problem I'm having now is that the kernel source wasn't installed during the install. Is there a way to install the source kernel so I can do things such as `make xconfig' and the like? Thanks a buch! Riker
[newbie] ShoutCast, *.pls, Netscape - MIME type Setup?
How do you get Netscape to run xmms when you click a ShoutCast *.pls link? I've tried messing with netscape but it just won't respond correctly. Seve
[newbie] Installation hangs on hard drive detection
Hi, is the mail server up? If it is and this goes thru (2nd try) I am having a problem doing an install on a two disk sys. Hda is windows trying to install LM on hdc. The system starts with CDROM and goes thru hard drive detection and shows ide0 and ide1 addresses and then hangs. Hda is Samsung drive and Hdc is maxtor. System is a AMD K6II 333 on soyo mobo. Has anyone else seen this behavior and found a solution? I made a boot floppy but get the same hang. Help is appreciated. TIA -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842
[newbie] Mandrake 2.4 latest test kernel crashes after 5 mins?
I decided to give the new 2.4 test kernel a try out, downloading from a cooker mandrake rpm site, but this kernel crashes my pc after 5 minutes of browsing/ using xmms, machine just locks, anyone guess any reason, Maybe I have an idea. the kernel seems to load some superprobe thingy , This detects my LPT port even though I have disabled it in CMOS set up to gain extra IRQ (my IRQ's are full!) maybe this is interfering with Sound card which is using IRQ 5 & 7, any other ideas?,
[newbie] O'Reilly book
The latest edition of O'Reilly's 'Running Linux' is the second edition, right? Just want to be absolutely sure before I go out to get it. Thanks -- Abe
Re: [newbie] Flashing BIOS under Linux?
Morning, > But how can I run an .exe file in linux?? Only if the app is actually something that runs in Linux. The extensions, in most cases in Linux, are arbitrary. In this case, not likely. But again, if you can find a way to get it to floppy, you may have a chance. If it's not bootable, as was my bios update, your options are limited to either installing, at least, dos, or asking a friend to run the exe, which would likely ask for a floppy to format & install the bios boot to. > Thats why I like unix (Linux) better than dos or windows, > hehehe. I'll go along with that. All I can find Windows being better for than a nix is as a game platform. Particularly since now with lm7.2 & Enlightenment 0.15, as opposed to RH 6.0 & whatever version of E came with that, I don't have to reboot at least once a day as I also had in Windows (though Windows often required multiple boots in a 24 hour period). Good luck. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
[newbie] Fwd: SCSI, CD-RW, LS120 Problem
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: SCSI, CD-RW, LS120 Problem Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:41:26 -0500 From: Jeffrey Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I changed the locations of my CD-RW and LS-120 drives and now the system thinks the LS-120 is my CD-RW. When I do a 'cdrecord -scanbus', it list the Matshita LS-120 on 'scsibus0' as a removable drive. And when I start X-CD-ROAST, it only shows the LS-120 as a device (it worked before). I assume I need the change something in the '/etc/lilo.conf' or something ? I can read from both my CDROM drives (from the desktop prompts), but I can't set the CD-RW up to record and I can't access the LS120. On bootup the drives are corerectly displayed as : hda: LS120 hdb: CDROM hdc: CD-RW Thanks, Jeff ---
[newbie] Switching from Grub to lilo
Hey, I will likely be switching my dual-boot from lm7.2 & W2k to lm7.2 & W98 (can't get games to find the sound card -- besides I only use Windows for games). I thought I saw a way to do that in DrakConf, but now I look & can't find what I thought I'd seen. How would I do that? Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
[newbie] Juno ISP in Linux?
Dear friends: I have a dual-boot Linux/Win98 system. In Windows use Juno as my ISP, that is, Juno Premium, the commercial version without the banner ads. I would very much like to use Juno as my dial-up in Linux. Is there any way to do this? Currently, I use Bellsouth dial-up, which doesn't support Linux any more than Juno. Yet, I have no problem connecting to the Internet via Bellsouth. Is that technically feasible in Linux? Would appreciate your expert knowledge on this question Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How do I run a Windows Program in Linux?
Win4Lin is a really good product. I had in running in Mandrake 6.0. I was running Windows 95 running Opera for Windows, Internet Explorer, TurboCAD, and PaintShop Pro on it with no problem at all. Windows loaded on my 266 P=II with 96M ram in about 5 seconds. It wont do Direct X but everything else seems functional. The demo is full featured but time limited(30 days, I think). My trial just ran out, but I think I'll buy this after my wallet recovers from the holidays. A bit pricy...$50, I think. Gene
[newbie] Mandrake Coporate Server 1.0 SSH installation and Frontpage andSamba problem
I have resently installed mandrake coporate server 1.0 on a petium 100 with 48 megs of ram and a 2.1 gig hard drive... It installed fine. and its main purpose is to be a mail, samba and web server for a university residencs server with internet connection. the appache web server that came installed is supposed to come with the frontpage 2000 patch so that I can install the frontpage server extensions which I have already downloaded from microsoft. Does anyone know how to get the server extensions fully installed and running 100%. I also have a problem installing SSH with I got from one of the crypto ftp site on the mandrake web site.. it wants a dependency crypto.so.1 file which I cannot find.. The server has 2 network cards for now. to help seperate the LAN into segments. I got routing working and samba. But the machines on seperate subnets are unable to see each other on the same workgroup. How do I get this working. WINS has something to do with it..but could somebody explain what I should do to get it to work.. Our old server before had redhat 5 on it which seemed VERY vulnerble to hackers because was not updated regularly.. and I want to stop this now. So I hope installing Mandrake corporate server was the right move.. Thanks Jaques le Roux winmail.dat
[newbie] modem support
Dear sir/madam, How can I make my PCI(internal) 56K modem function in mandrake 7.1? Thank you for answering my question. Kenneth === ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi
Re: [newbie] KDE2.1 Updates
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > I am having exactly the same problem as Dan, libkscan.so.1 is needed and I > was so far unsuccessful in finding it (ufff...) HELP please! > > Have a great New Year you all! > > Hektor Don't worry about it. I ignored it and installed the package, everything seems to work just fine so far. Others in archives have indicated the same. Give it a try, and if you feel a little uneasy save the old files in one folder and just do it. Good luck, -- Dennis Myers registered linux user #180842
[newbie] USER ONLY: A plan
Ha folks, In line with my policy to put something back ... Here are some additional descriptions that can help us all here: Newby-Newby: Someone stuck it to them. "Just plug it in and switch it on" Remember the Applecore ads?? Even *I* nearly rushed out and bought one after years of fighting Wdoze. Just be sympathetic and send them away. They SHOULD still be using Windoze. Linux is definitely not ready for cold starts. User-Newby Characterised by their total lack of interest in playing under the hood. Usually frustrated Wdozers just looking for a way to run a small business or write a Great Novel, or just look for help and inspiration on the 3Ws. They just want a working Office Suite and a Browser. THAT's ALL. Nerd-(Specific = Linux/M72) Newby IF, if they owned a car, they would change their own oil - refine it too, if they could. They are characterised by a complete inability to use more than 3 fingers to type and no way would they stoop to Typequik(r) to quadruple their output. Would never buy a car with an autoshift. Even if they ever did buy one. "Who needs 'em? Pizza is delivered." Will go to any extreme to use the Big C ( no, not that - the command line!)Would rather use Morse Code, than CB. Actually are VITAL to the rest of us EVER escaping 'Doze. IF we can only figure out what they are saying. Masochist-Newby They are the ones who deliberately tackle projects like LINUX. For fun! They are truly born to the other universe of Codecutters. Almost impossible to communicate with. Better left alone in a dark place and fed lots of Pizzas and Strange Drinks. Just tell them things like " Well, this cannot be done anyway, no way" and go away. Eventually they will hand you a workable program, which has to be filtered thru numerous Nerd-[specific] Newbies and one day will have INSTRUCTIONS on how to use it. Ha! In your Dreams! Folks, 95% of Newbies to Linux are not Nerds of any type. They are the future of Linux: ORDINARY USERS. We need millions of us to make it all work. So my humble submission: HOW ABOUT: USER-Newbies putting that in the Subject Line, e.g. USER: emulator advice req. THEN responders will know they have to talk simple English - and NEVER mention the Big C except as a last resort. AND Users won't go nutz trying to translate esoteric things of no interest at all - like compiling kernels. Happy New Year! John Remember LTUAE? Then try this: www.fablor.com/auroraBut, DON'T Go here! www.fablor.com/meteora
Re: [newbie] Dependency Error
On Friday 29 December 2000 01:32 pm, Jeffrey Norris wrote: > I finally managed to update everything on my system (7.2). > Except.'linuxconf' (1.21r5). MandrakeUpdate says it needs > 'libgd.so.1'. I've downloaded all the updates so I'm not sure what it > is or where to get it. Anyone have an idea ? Type'rpm -q --whatprovides libgd.so.1'if that doesn't return gd-1.8.1-4mdk then go tohttp://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ and search 'libgd.so.1' which will, and where to get it ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/7.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/gd-1.8.1-4mdk.i586.rpm .but that indicates it's on your 7.2 CD's, you just need to learn to how to look ;> -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
Hello, I don't blame linux for not having drivers or surport for my hard ware. I believe that the company that makes the device should do this not mandrake or any other distro. Like you said M$ put the companies on the spot and they should not be aloud to do this. If only our politations would do the right thing and look after the people. My video card has linux drivers on the cd. But I did not need them as mandrake 7.1 worked first time with no problems at all. I have three distros and am playing around with them to see which one I like. Why use linux cause windoze costs heaps and crashes heaps. I am going to learn linux even if it kills me. I am having fun trying to upgrade kde 1.x to kde 2.01 I have all the files on cd for suse 7 but now the fun begins how do I use them. I did try kpackage but it won't look at the rpm files, I think it might be me not knowing how to use it, but I'm not complaining about this as this is part of the learning curve. And having a lot of fun learning. Anthony Daniell Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Friday 29 December 2000 11:57 am, Hipolito Lopez wrote: > > That's a fact. > > I don't have anything against microsoft, but the reality is that the > > windows based operating system (win2k, win9x) it doesn't deserve to > > be called operating system. > > Leaving out Win2k, you're right as far as you go. WinX.x -> Win ME > is a GUI that runs on top of DOS. The combination can be just as > effective for many users, as using KDE or Gnome (and other GUI's) on > Linux. The caveats are the same with either GUI/OS, including Win2k. > The user must take reponsibility for learning and maintaining both his > hardware and software. For most Windoze users this is actually easier > than for most Linux users. Usually revolves around keeping the > Registry cleaned and optimized using native DOS tools that come with > Windoze. EG, scanreg /fix and scanreg /opt run from a pure DOS > environment, no Win GUI overhead active or present (ie, NOT an on > boot). Most all Windoze users don't/don't know how to do this. There's > similar situations with GUI/Linux users. > > The main problems for M$ users is the binary only, closed source, > proprietary nature of the device drivers, many of which aren't M$ > certified, and the system problems and security issues they introduce. > But guess what, this is also becoming a similar situation and large > problem for the GUI/Linux community. Actually, it has been for some > time now. > > M$'s real disservice is not the quality of their software, but the > influence they exert on hardware manufacturers. The result has caused a > quick deteriration in the quality and capability of available hardware. > 'Specially from the manufacturers and venders most often pressed the > hardest by M$, the big ready mades (Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc.). It > also is extended upon high volume specialty manufactures (motherboards, > modems, video/ sound cards, etc.) This deterioration is also a large > problem for Linux users, particularly the ones that blame problems they > experience on the distro they just failed to install/setup. Those that > say "but it works fine with Windows", or complain when they have to d/l > binary drivers for their new video card, and blame Mandrake for not > providing them when they can't get 'em working properly. > > Oh, well... another of my hardware, user reponsibility rants ;> > -- > Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] SCSI, CD-RW, LS120 Problem
I changed the locations of my CD-RW and LS-120 drives and now the system thinks the LS-120 is my CD-RW. When I do a 'cdrecord -scanbus', it list the Matshita LS-120 on 'scsibus0 as a removable drive. And when I start X-CD-ROAST, it only shows the LS-120 as a device (it worked before). I assume I need the change something in the '/etc/lilo.conf' or something ? I can read from both my CDROM drives (from the desktop prompts), but I can't set the CD-RW up to record and I can't access the LS120. Any help would be appreciated. I've been trying to figure this out for half the day. Thanks, Jeff
[newbie] command line ftp
Hello all, I'm sure someone out there can help me. After discovering that I did not have a command line ftp program like the one on most UNIX systems, I downloaded ftp-0.17-2mdk.src.rpm . When I try to install it, rpm --rebuild ftp-0.17-2mdk.src.rpm I get the following: Installing ftp-0.17-2mdk.src.rpm error: failed build dependencies: gpm-devel is needed by ftp-0.17-2mdk readline-devel is needed by ftp-0.17-2mdk . So I know that I need these two files but they don't appear to be on the disks that came with my installation and so far I haven't been able to find them in the mirrors. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mickey Soltys
[newbie] Printer set-up
I am very new to Linux having installed Mandrake 7.2 about 3 weeks ago and two or three times since. A problem I am having and completely fail to understand is that my HP 930 C printer was auto detected and installed on a automagic recommended installation and printed a test page but just sits and stares at me when requested to print by using the print command in a word processor or text editor. No way can I induce it to print. The printer is connected to a USB port and works just fine in windoze. What am I missing and how might I get this thing to print. I like what I am seeing in Linux and if I can get the printer firing will probably only want to use windoze for banking. Have a Compaq Celeron 500, 64 meg Ram, 8 gig h/d. Thanks, Bill
Re: [newbie] Re: Help with Digital Camera
On Friday 29 December 2000 12:18 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > Hmm. Well, Gphoto didn't freeze, it just told me that it couldn't > find the camera (might as well be the same diff, as far as results > go, eh? ) Anyways, what about the problem I had with the "-" > character in front of the filenames it uses to save the pics with > (did you read that msg?). Yes, I didn't believe it was a problem then ... still don't > With a "-" in front of a filename, from a > shell/command line, I can't do chmod, chgrp, or chown without an > error message. I have to manually rename each file, removing the "-". > Odd that. I don't sweat little things like this either. I have a different camera (Olympus) and my file names are similar, eg. -001.jpg, so it has to be a gphoto thing. I save the pics to an appropriate directory, eg, /home/tom/cam//-???.jpg. Then later, while viewing them with Gqview, while I'm lookin at the pic, I can rename it (r-click on the file). MOF, I reckon this is what the '-' is for. If you were to take a bunch of pics at the beach, all you have to do is add 'beach' in front of the '-' and you end up with 'beach-001.jpg' or even 'me asleep at the beach-001.jpg' if you want to be more descriptive ;> > > I did try something else with permissions as well. I went to /dev, > and "ls al" all the ttysX files, and noted that root owns them, and > they are in a group called tty. The permissions are crw-rw-rw-. So, I > went to /etc/group, and added my username to the group tty in the > group file, thinking it would allow my user access. I rebooted, and > tried again but still no luck. Shouldn't that have worked? I dunno, maybe if you look into chmod'ing the whole dir all at once? Like i said, I like gphoto just fine runnin it from a term after su'ing to root. Root owns my pics, but I can still do anything I want with 'em, cause anytime i wanna be root, I am ;) 'ls -last' 72 -rw-r--r--1 root root71680 Dec 17 12:02 -001.jpg Haven't got around to renaming those yet, and there's a new bunch in the camera, so call me lazy ;>> -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:47 PM > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Revenant wrote: > >> Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are > >> pushing our resources to their limits. > >Our resource limits are increasing. Most software aims to > >take maximum advantage of the hardware available. Now that the > >industry standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS > >didn't have additional functionality. > But not more speed. > Lotus 1.2.3 version 1 that ran on the original 8086 is equally fast as > excel2000 on the 800Mhz P-III. > Paul Perhaps. But given that Excel2000 is running graphically at 1024x768x32 or higher under a multi-tasking operating system, while Lotus 1.2.3v1 is running under a single-tasking text-based OS, this is more impressive than it sounds. Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
[newbie] Netscape
Hi All, Can somebody tell me what is the latest 4.7x version of Netscape? I'm running 4.73, after trying to find a later version I was told by Netscape that I was already running the latest version for my platform (MD 7.1), afaik the latest is 4.76, will this not run on MD 7.1? TIA, Herman
Re: [newbie] stopping gates getting Linux!
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Daniell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > - Original Message - > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have > a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. > And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After > all there are a lot of people using linux today. > > I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company > asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something > about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have > drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. NOW this could do more for the future of Linux than most other things: Send your makers an email - won't even cost a stamp! AND get your friends to do it too. It is absurd that people make software for Applecores and not Linux! If we all just decided to help the Linuxworld along by doing this it would make up for our feelings of inadequacy because the other 99% of us aren't nerds! E.G. I have a Lexmark older printer - no go. I have a Ricoh 7120A Awe Soundcard. Nothing works... Cheers, John
[newbie] REALLY basic question.
What is the tool Mandrake uses to add/remove packages and modules. I need to check if the sound modules are installed. Thanx. Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Friday 29 December 2000 04:41 am, David and Alicia wrote: > > ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the > > impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be > > used on older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i > > saw the download size. How much disk space will a bare install need? > From zero (you can run Linux on a floppy) to as much as you care to > let it have. Keep in mind that only the kernel is Linux, everything > else is (GNU) applications and the various configs, libraries, etc, > that they need. Read /. and you'll hear of people running Linux on a > wristwatch ;) Some bloke got it going on a Dreamcast too. My reasons for running Linux: (1) It's free (as in beer, not speech). And not just the OS, but the software. The GIMP alone saves you $1,000+ over using Photoshop. (2) It's free (as in speech, not beer). (3) "It's more stable". In my experience, what this has meant is that the OS won't glitch or die on you for no discernable reason - but it can and will glitch or die on you for reasons that are obscure at best to the newbie. Essentially, Linux will let you into its guts to fix the problem when something goes wrong while Windows doesn't. I hope to learn enough to take advantage of that. Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
Joseph Red wrote: > Well, for myself, I got sick of rebooting whenever I wanted to play > a game. And the crashes. Since I was rebooting for games anyway, why > not dual-boot? > Then I started discovering how far Linux has come (the last time I > used it was a pre-1.0 version of Slack). Heck, there was support > for my USB webcam, and my digital cam. The only thing I haven't > found a replacement for is my Timex Datalink watch software (to > be fair, I haven't looked:). And since I've started running > Linux (4-5 months) I've booted Windows about 5 times. > Mainly to double-check hardware IRQs & I/Os. > Joseph Red Okay, explain this to me: You switched from Windows to Linux because you wanted to more easily play games? Surely this is one of Linux's weakest areas? (Well, that and its font system). Didn't you find yourself unable to play the games you wanted to under Linux? Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
[newbie] Printer support in 7.2
Hi All, I'm using 7.1, printer is a Canon BJC 3000, works fine in standard mode with BJC 600 driver, for high quality work I'm saving SO5.2 and The Gimp files to their windows counterparts and print from there. Question: in MD 7.2 is there better support for this printer? (Cups?) Not willing to change printer, very good quality and because of the separate ink-tanks cheap to run. :-)) TIA, Herman
Re: [newbie] basic question
David and Alicia wrote: > > Dear all, > > Can i install mandrake on my (shame) p200mmx 3.3gig machine? > > will it run apps faster than windoze bloatware? > > David and Alicia Sure (I'm typing this on a P200)--it'll work fine. Use at least 64M of Ram. As far as being faster than Windows, you know, I can't see much difference--but then, I don't see much difference between a P450 and a P200 either. My PIII 733 only appears to be a little bit faster. It's all a matter of perception, I'm sure. The ONLY place I notice the difference is when compiling the kernel--they all do it pretty fast, but the 733 is done in what seems like a minute and a half or so.
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
Hi Herman My Mandrake install CD's have a kernal for a 486 installation as well as the pentium optimised kernal James > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the > > impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be used on > > older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i saw the download > > size. How much disk space will a bare install need? > > > > David and Alicia > > > > Would mandrake run on a p60, 540 mb hd, ? > Hi, > Not likely, Mandrake needs a Pentium to run well, > you are better off with something like Red Hat 5.2 for this machine. > Cheers, > Herman > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Revenant > > Sent: 29 December 2000 10:24 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [newbie] basic question > > > > > > Define "faster than windows". Using KDE I've noticed there is quite > > often a noticable delay waiting for windows to appear - far longer than > > in windows. > > > > > > Herman Christiani wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Yes, you can and it will run faster then windows, > > > but you forgot to mention the amount of ram? > > > Linux likes it's ram, the more the better. > > > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Can i install mandrake on my (shame) p200mmx 3.3gig machine? > > > > will it run apps faster than windoze bloatware? > > > > David and Alicia > > > > > > > > Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design > > For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- > > world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. > > ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- >
[newbie] gcc tutorial
Can someone point me to a gcc tutorial [on the internet or a good book]? I find the man pages a bit overwhelming as yet. Thanks, Abe
[newbie] Grub boot shell
Hello, I used to get a nice boot shell when booting into Mandrake 7.2. While booting the kernel I used to see the Mandrake logo on the upper half of the screen and the Init part used to be on a graphical shell. The grub used to have two entries for each boot option 1. kernel 2. Don't remember :-( Now I have only one line in the Grub and don't see the shell /graph interface anymore. Could someone tell me what the second line (I assume it has something to do with INIT) has to be? Thank you Berthold
Re: [newbie] Advice needed on firewall...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Michael O'Henly wrote: >The way I understand it, portsentry senses a port scan and then immediately >creates a rule that adds the scanning host to a REJECT or DENY rule. So if >you've told your firewall to do this by default for all external hosts, is >that the same thing? It is for the major part. But portsentry also adds a line in the messages logfile, where I can see what IP has tried to do something. If one is getting too boring, I smoke the person out and report him to his ISP. Paul -- Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they can be yours too." http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
[newbie] trouble with linuxconf upgrade
Greetings all, I have viewed my /var/log/message file and I have a few questions about some error messages that I see. The first is as follows : modprobe: can't lcate module char-major-4 The second is : modprobe: can't locate module binfmt- The third is due to my own lack of good judgement after upgradeing Linuxconf, I suspect that I should not have choosen Force instead of Cancel when the warning came up during the installation. netconf: /sbin/netconf: error in loading shared libraries libgd.so.1: canot open shared object file: no such file or directory linuxconf: running linuxconf hooks: failed. I am also getting a warning where sound slot 0 and 1 are not found. I am not surprised by this as the Crystal chip used on my turtle beach sound card is not yet supported by Mandrake and, the IRQ it is using is also trying to be used by a USB device that I do not have. Any help that can be extended in these matters will be greately appreciated. Have a save New Years Eve. Louis
[newbie] Ram seen in 7.2
Hi all, I have a fairly stable installation of 7.2 and KDE2.1beta1. My problem is I just added another 64mb of ram and it shows up on the initial boot before the OS comes up and it shows up on the control center on hda which has 7.1 installed. It also shows on the first pixmap on boot (the one with the rough looking tux) on both hda and hdc where I have 7.2 installed. But, in 7.2 in the control center when I look in information - memory, it is only showing 64mg I have added the append = "mem=128" to lilo.conf but it does not seem to have made a difference to what the control center reports. Any place else I should edit to get the system to see the mem and use it? Oh, I put the append line just as I typed it above and in each of the image sections as the last statement after read-only. Please let me know if I did that correctly. "Running Linux" the book is not to clear on how to put the append line in lilo.conf. Thanks again for all the help this list is so willing to give. -- Dennis Myers registered linux user #180842
Re: [newbie] Flashing BIOS under Linux?
On Friday 29 December 2000 01:36 pm, Vic wrote: > But how can I run an .exe file in linux??> dos emulator don't work, it won't see> any other files on the drive except the > stupid little pre-installed idiotic stupid> set of files already in there, so thats worthless> dos emulator. I can't just copy the .exe file > onto a blank floppy, it won't boot without> the boot track, and I can't maek a boot> track. I can format for dos, but I can't > make it bootable. I need a disk image> like dosboot.img then I can do Then do an ftp search on 'dosboot.img' ?? You'll get several. There's even 'dosboot.gz's by ftp, ... gunzip to a floppy. Vic, there's only 2 files (< 300k) need to boot DOS, 'command.com' and 'io.sys'. D/l these two files to a DOS floppy, plus the flash utility (eg, something like 'awdflash.exe') and the .bin file for the bios, and you're set to go. MOF, a minimal DOS boot floppy is best for flashing purposes. _Whatever you do, don't_ try flashing your bios using an emulator. If worse comes to worse I'll email you 'command.com' and 'io.sys' (DOS7.1). I do know, that with nothin but Linux, you can make a DOS bootdisk, add the flash utility and the .bin to it, boot it, and flash your motherboard's bios. I also believe that if you don't know, or aren't sure what you're doin. then don't, unless you're willin to trash your motherboard, or at least have to replace/re-program it's bios chip. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Hi Roman, Have a happy new year. I'm going to. I am playing with kde now trying trying to upgrade to 2.0.1 and having a ball. Anthony Daniell (Tony) Romanator wrote: > > Hey Tony, > > Have a Happy New Year. > > Cheers! > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > > Anthony Daniell wrote: > > > > Ok I think you can contact them at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I am still waiting for a reply to my email about there > > cameras and that was three weeks ago. > > > > Anthony Daniell. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 2:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > Does HP make their own printer drivers as well? > > > > > > If I had the e mail address I would > > > e mail them and tell them they need > > > to write linux drivers for their mice > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Anthony Daniell wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse > > > > support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse > > > > dialog. Ridiculous. > > > > > > > > Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that > > have > > > > a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll > > wheel. > > > > And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. > > After > > > > all there are a lot of people using linux today. > > > > > > > > I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company > > > > asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do > > something > > > > about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have > > > > drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. > > > > > > > > My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for > > windoze I > > > > can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change > > the > > > > icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and > > can > > > > use it as either ps2 or usb. > > > > > > > > I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just > > > > SCSI. > > > > > > > > Regards Anthony Daniell > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] Installing Kdevelop on MDK7.2
On Friday 29 December 2000 01:32 pm, Romanator wrote: > Tom Brinkman wrote: > >kdevelop-2.0-4mdk was available (and still is by an ftp > > search), but it's either unusable or seg11's on start. It's one of > > the KDE1 apps that wasn't ready when KDE2 was released. > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for pointing this out. I think, I'll wait. By the way, you had > emailed a very informative link to a web page that shows the latest > news around the world. I found it very informative. By any chance, do > you still have that link? Prob'ly, but i could use some clues as to which one ?? -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] How do I run a Windows Program in Linux?
Hi Tom, >Wine is prob'ly installed, but not setup. ( locate wine ) I'm newbie-newbie!-) Is that a command to run from somewhere and then do I click on a wine gear wheel to run it, or is it like commandline driven: locate wine run /application/notetab pro.exe? Thanks! Jody Clean-Funnies: click and send... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Subscribe
Re[4]: [newbie] The NVIDIA Kernel Compile
Hello s, Thursday, December 28, 2000, 10:55:51 AM, you wrote: s> On Thursday 14 December 2000 12:16 am, you wrote: >> Hellos, >> >> Wednesday, December 27, 2000, 5:31:59 PM, you wrote: >> >> s> Great thanks. That did the trick. Now if I could get the agpgart >> moduled to s> load so I could install the nvidia drivers I would be >> delirious. s> -s >> >> You are welcome :) >> Do you have an i815 board ? I came to that problem (agpgart and new >> kernels) only on that one, and could not solve it anyhow >> >> Onur s> Yep, an i815. It's a mess. I tried loading the module first, even s> unsupported. I tried modifying the nvdriver kernel so that it would use it's s> own agp. Just won't work. Somebody's bound to think of something soon, I s> hope. s> -s wow ! I cant believe it ! Finally I found something on the net that I am not the only person who came across this ! umm, should I be happy or sad?? I did many tricks with agpgart too, from module parameter, unsupported, to trying with the source, downloading an agpgart from intels site (source RPM) and using it, tweaking nvidia's old and new drivers, changing source, increasing and decreasing support of it (you know,for via 4X, agp memory stuff etc), forcing to use its own agp stuff and forcing not to use it, again from the source, but no way! No way it works ! No info I could find on the net Nvidia did not even care to answer a "kind enough to write a very dep letter of info" CUSTOMER, not even a lie " we are working on the subject". I even sent a mail to loki, (well, they are most busy on defining 3D drivers on hardware, I believe) No info on net. No info from "officials" No info from mailing lists. AM stuck !! May god help us ! Or maybe, a human may help ? hope sooo well, honestly, after all those I did, I lost hope :( ps: 815 is great, no way I will change it for long :) Onur _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Lost Partition in Windows
Hi civileme, I'm getting ready to do this because it seems simple enough, but the one to fix the CDs is a bit tougher. What my question is, I want to make sure the install version is installed on the smaller Mandrake load I did since I saw nothing about Wine in the Custom install. How, or what directory do I check in to see if it is installed and how do I access Wine mode - konsole? If it is not installed, what do I need to install to get Wine installed via the Mandrake 7.2 CD without second CD? TIA >> I lost my last drive in Win98SE after installing Linux Mandrake >> 7.2. The Mandrake install prob page says to run the perl >> script they provided: linux_extended_fix.pl > If you have it in the /root directory, stored in filename > "foo", just open a Konsole and type > > ./foo > > after the prompt. That first line tells the command shell to > use perl to execute the script. See ya in the funnies! Jody Adair Clean-Funnies mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=subscribe If you haven't laughed at yourself today, you missed a good joke!
Re: [newbie] KDE2.1 Updates
On Friday 29 December 2000 01:06 pm, Hektor Meyer wrote: > I am having exactly the same problem as Dan, libkscan.so.1 is needed > and I was so far unsuccessful in finding it (ufff...) HELP please! It's not needed. Install kdeaddutils-2.1-0.20001213.1mdk with the --nodeps option and all will be well. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Holy emails Batman!!
hey! lets go for 7! "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: > > Romanator wrote: > > > > Wow, > > > > Is every one getting 6 copies of each email?! > > > > -- > > Roman > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > I did just now, from Barry... This seems to come and go, as has been discussed > before, but 6 is the most I've seen. (doubles happen in a regularly irregular > way) > > PS Would the real Barry please stand up? ;-) > > -- > > /\ > Dark> \/
[newbie] question on cd-r burning
i have mandrake 7.1 complete and cdrecord 1.81 program what is the correct string to burn a iso image onto a blank cd thankyou stephen ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/2000
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want astraight answer please
Abraham Mandac wrote: > > When I was just about getting fed up with how Visual C++ fails to compile > simple bits of code, I read somewhere that the best C compilers run under > unix [and that sort of includes linux, doesn't it?]. I got LM 7.1 more than > 2 months ago, and now I'm still learning to use gcc and cforge, which I > just downloaded yesterday. So finally, my learning C++ can now proceed, > after that long of being on hold. > > --Abe Check out Code Crusader for Linux. Not bad... -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
Paul wrote: > > > ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the > > impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be used on > > older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i saw the download > > size. How much disk space will a bare install need? > > > > David and Alicia > > Hi, > > Most people that 'try' running linux have probably not read enough about it to know >what > is possible and how to do it. > Millions of people run Linux and are happy with it. > > Progress is made in all areas, in the development of linux, Windows, and hardware. >If the > hardware gets more potent, then the OS's of that timeframe will grow along with that. > You can indeed run Linux on a 386, but you can not expect to take all the advantages >of > the new OS-technology using old hardware-technology. > Mandrake is optimized for Pentium class processors, not i386. > Redhat is compiled for i386, and when you use RH5.2 (from which, if I am not >mistaken, > Mandrake originated) or RH6.0, that will run nicely on an I386. You can not install > everything, but a basic system with some Xwindow support should be possible on your >specs > of i386 with 540mb. Even with 8 megs of RAM, this should function. (Not 'run', but > 'walk'.) > > Compare what you need for a basic mandrake installation with a bare Xwindow system, >and > windows95, and you may not find much difference. Using Linux made me microsoft > independent, free of blue screens of death, DLL's in all forms and shapes and >versions, an > uninterpretable registry file, and the power to influence the system and repair it >when it > breaks down. Windows does not let me do that. > If you seek the ease of windows, being taken by the hand by wizards which make all >the > decisions for you, then windows is what you want. If you want to be able to use your > computer by what you put in it yourself, then you can go with Linux. > (My expression of thoughts entirely of course.) > Paul Good ol' DLLS. Once of the major causes of many Windows crashes. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] When the printer goes mad
Paul wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, IRoKd wrote: > > Hi IRoKd > > >While by far am I the Linux expert, I would say that you experience some > >kind of buffer over run or something in your printer. Before killing the > >spool, I would turn the printer offline, then power it off to clear the > >buffer. Then, kill all the jobs, reset the spooler, etc, and fire the > >printer back up to see what happens. > > The trick question now (because I did almost all of that): > how do you reset the spooler... > But, next time I pull a stunt like that, I can see if Alan's tip re. kups > will do anything. I ran lpq, saw that job 11 was going whopee, issued a > "cancel 11", and then lpq showed a clear queue. That is not difficult. I > only need the info on "reset the spooler". > > kill -sighup ??? > (might that be the pid of cupsd ?) > > Paul > > >- Original Message - > >> I accidentally sent a wrong print to the printer, and it went nuts > >> printing all kinds of garbage without end. > >> > >> I could not find any way to stop this but to reboot the entire system (how > >> low can one go)... > -- > Save our trees: Stop printing tax forms! > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 > Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31 Netscape (4.76) just locked up on me and I couldn't kill it from the command line. I went 'su' and opened gtop. If you highlight the process you want to kill, you can do a right mouse click, slide down to 'Send' and on down to 'SendKill'. Brought down Netscape nice and clean. I thought of your print problem and watched the 'lp' print spooler come up on a print job. I believe you could kill the spooler from gtop and then power down the printer to kill what is left in memory there. Its something I have to experiment with further, but thought I would pass it on. Barry :-)
[newbie] Re: Grub boot shell
Please ignore my previous email. I figuered how to solve it Berthold El Vie 29 Dic 2000 23:18, escribiste: > Hello, > > I used to get a nice boot shell when booting into Mandrake 7.2. While > booting the kernel I used to see the Mandrake logo on the upper half of the > screen and the Init part used to be on a graphical shell. > > The grub used to have two entries for each boot option > 1. kernel > 2. Don't remember :-( > > Now I have only one line in the Grub and don't see the shell /graph > interface anymore. Could someone tell me what the second line (I assume it > has something to do with INIT) has to be? > > Thank you > > Berthold
Re: [newbie] Fast CPU
Hey Mark, my email client uses Procmail just fine! ;-) Pine, by the way...;-p peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #19071 On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: > Nope...you are correct and this fact leaves me wondering how in the world I > can filter duplicate messages with Kmail filtering technology. > > How about it MandrakeSoft? Any ideas? That, or a good solid method of using > Procmail filtering with Kmail as one would use with Pine. > -- > Mark > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," > "Sharing is what makes them powerful." > > Linus Torvalds > > On Friday 29 December 2000 13:47, you wrote: > > I thought I am the only person to receive multiple copies! There were (13) > > copies of this posting > > > > At 28-12-2000 +1100, you wrote: > > >On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:04, ZER0 FREQUENCY wrote: > > > > John Arkoulis wrote: > > > > >Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the > > > > > new fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon) > > > > >Yes I know G4 is a MAC. > > > > >Which one do you think is best for Linux??? > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > > I personally like AMD. Although linux mostly supports intel. Not > > > > much change since AMD has intel-compatible microprocessors. > > > > > >http://www.tomshardware.com has great PC CPU (i.e. no Mac) reviews. It > > >recently has done extensive testing on the Pentium 4, comparing it to > > > other Intel and AMD processors. It generally concludes that AMD chips are > > > better, since they are significantly cheaper for about the same > > > performance. The Pentium 4, it says, is difficult to compare to other > > > CPUs since there are currrently no programmes that can take advantage of > > > its new instructions. This is particularly important in the floating > > > point department (i.e. mathematical calculations), where it rates poorly > > > on current apps that are unoptimised for it. It will be quite some time > > > before programmes can use the Pentium 4 well, so until then we should use > > > more conventional CPUs. > > > > > >There is nothing wrong with using a Mac for Linux. PowerPC chips, like > > > Alphas and SunSparcs, are based on RISC technology (Intel and AMD use > > > CISC), which is typically better for complex mathematical calculations. > > > If this is not a consideration, then CISC will do. > > > > > >In the end, it depends on what you want to do with the CPU that matters. > > > If you want to run Windows in a dual-boot configuration and/or run many > > > games, the x86 (i.e. Intel and AMD) architecture would be a better > > > choice. It also makes installing apps a lot easier (it's easier to find > > > ready-made i386, i586 or i686 binaries, hence you won't have to compile > > > code). In this case, I strongly recommend AMD, for the same reasons that > > > www.tomshardware.com does. If you plan to do much scientific and > > > mathematical work, then RISC (whether it be PowerPC, Alpha, SunSparc or > > > something else) is probably better (as long as you can find the > > > programmes you need). > > > > > >-- > > >Sridhar Dhanapalan. > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge > > > this change. > > > >
[newbie] Printer Error
After trying to print a file as "cat | lpr", what caused the following message to be sent to administration? lp printer job "stdin": Your printer job (stdin) was not printed because it was not linked to the original file Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list address in Cc: and my email address in To:. * Signed, SoloCDM
[newbie] Kernel upgrade help!
I am using Mandrake 7.1 and was wondering if I can install the kernel that comes with 7.2 ie: 2.2.17-21.mdk.rpm ? Or is this kernel specifically for 7.2? Also, I was wondering what kernel rpms do I actaully need to install, I see there are several rpms and I didn't think they all needed to be installed, but I have only done it once and can't remember which ones I installed.
Re: [newbie] How do I see my Linux Drives in Win98SE?
Hi Manuel, >Download Captian Nemo from www.download.com and instal this under >win95/98/nt and you will see your linux drives under windows. Thanks! But for $90 just so I can see them, even though it does a lot more, methinks I'll pass. They do not show up in the "for DOS" version. Gee, with GRUB running, I do not know how to get to DOS anymore. :( Captain Nemo for Windows 95/98/NT/2000 Captain Nemo for DOS See ya in the funnies! Jody Adair Clean-Funnies mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=subscribe If you haven't laughed at yourself today, you missed a good joke!
RE: [newbie] How do I see my Linux Drives in Win98SE?
Captian Nemo is shareware and a single license is $90. Charles Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of manuel dopp Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I see my Linux Drives in Win98SE? Download Captian Nemo from www.download.com and instal this under win95/98/nt and you will see your linux drives under windows. this also helps for novell partitions and many other strages partition types. regards, manuel dopp -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: M.J. Constant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: vrijdag 29 december 2000 17:59 Onderwerp: Re: [newbie] How do I see my Linux Drives in Win98SE? >Forget about it. Windows is not that smart. >- Original Message - >From: "Jody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 5:01 AM >Subject: [newbie] How do I see my Linux Drives in Win98SE? > > >> Hi All, >> >> I have Linux Mandrake 7.2 installed. How do I get a Windows to see my >Linux drives? It really is not that important, but I would like to see them >there. TIA! >> >> Thanks! >> Jody >> >> Clean-Funnies: click and send... >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Subscribe >> >> >> > >
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the > impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be used on > older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i saw the download > size. How much disk space will a bare install need? > > David and Alicia > > Would mandrake run on a p60, 540 mb hd, ? Hi, Not likely, Mandrake needs a Pentium to run well, you are better off with something like Red Hat 5.2 for this machine. Cheers, Herman > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Revenant > Sent: 29 December 2000 10:24 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] basic question > > > Define "faster than windows". Using KDE I've noticed there is quite > often a noticable delay waiting for windows to appear - far longer than > in windows. > > > Herman Christiani wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, you can and it will run faster then windows, > > but you forgot to mention the amount of ram? > > Linux likes it's ram, the more the better. > > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > Can i install mandrake on my (shame) p200mmx 3.3gig machine? > > > will it run apps faster than windoze bloatware? > > > David and Alicia > > > > Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design > For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- > world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. > ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
Re: [newbie] Print problem
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, mcoady wrote: >When I run > >$lpr text.txt > >I get the message: printer unknown. > >But on my Mandrake 7 I have installed my HPLaserjet 4L on lp0 and a when I >check using Printtool, it is definitely there. However, the print test only works >when sent directly to the port. When I simply print the ascii test it just sends it to >queue lp0 and nothing is printed. You may want to run lpstat -a and see what printer is set up as the default printer. Paul -- Save our trees: Stop printing tax forms! http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
RE: [newbie] basic question
Hi, Linux will run along with this amount of ram, albeit a bit slow, for a comparisation, what version of windows are you running? A good low resource WM would be Blackbox, needs some getting used to. KDE and Gnome will run much better with more ram. As for the partition, will you run a dualboot (windows) on this machine? If not, I would start with a swappartition of 96mb and everything else to / HTH, Herman On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > Sorry Herman, our machine has 48meg, will linux run ok?.which is the > program manager and what size should i make my linux partition? > > David and Alicia > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herman Christiani > Sent: 29 December 2000 10:14 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] basic question > > > Hi, > Yes, you can and it will run faster then windows, > but you forgot to mention the amount of ram? > Linux likes it's ram, the more the better. > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Can i install mandrake on my (shame) p200mmx 3.3gig machine? > > > > will it run apps faster than windoze bloatware? > > > > David and Alicia
Re: [newbie] basic question
Hi, Depends probably a lot on the machine in question, you need to have plenty of ram for the KDE desktop, but on my machine: AMD K6-2 500, 192mb ram, 18 gb HDD, there is simply no comparisation even KDE is coming up twice as fast as win98se, I'm clearing windows now off my machine. Cheers, Herman On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > Define "faster than windows". Using KDE I've noticed there is quite > often a noticable delay waiting for windows to appear - far longer than > in windows. > > > Herman Christiani wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, you can and it will run faster then windows, > > but you forgot to mention the amount of ram? > > Linux likes it's ram, the more the better. > > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > Can i install mandrake on my (shame) p200mmx 3.3gig machine? > > > will it run apps faster than windoze bloatware? > > > David and Alicia > > > > Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design > For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- > world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. > ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
RE: [newbie] basic question
Dear all, I have a 200mmx with 48meg ram with two disks. C is 3.2 gig with wondoze installed E is only 540meg but is empty. How best should I chop up C to give me appropriate partition room for the mandrake install? Or should i skip this and use 'PhatLinux' instead? David and Alicia
Re: [newbie] How do I see my Linux Drives in Win98SE?
Hi Tom & Civileme, Thanks much for your answers - see below... Re: How do I see my Linux Drives in Win98SE? >> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm >Explore2fs is prob'ly the oldest, most widely used, best Windoze >app to access your ext2 partition. Take the authors warnings to >heart and be aware that sooner or later, even just copying files >from your Linux partition over to a vfat partition may completely >trash your Linux install. So, for all practical purposes, it would/should only be used to please my satisfaction to see my Linux in Windows just for grins since I really can't see a purpose accept for transferring text based files back and forth, and therefore, there is not much use pursuing this any further unless there is no problem with editing text files? I can save in UNIX from Windows, but I noticed Linux can read my Windows files when I am in Linux. I do have Linux on its on partition/drive of 1BG (only did a 325MB install) and have I guess the 128MB swap drive created. Sincerely, Jody Adair Customer Sales and Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fookes Software P.O Box 998 Milton, FL 32572-0998 USA Freeware and Shareware NoteTab, Mailbag, Album Express, Screen Savers http://www.notetab.com http://www.fookes.com The NoteTabbers Assistant Page Libraries, Clips, and... http://www.notetab.net
