[newbie] midentd and IRC Help

[John Catral]

Hi! I just installed Mandrake 7.2 thats connected top
a Linux Freesco router. Anyway, I just installed
midentd and did what the readme file suggested but
when I go to IRC I still cannot get in because of
identd problems.  Has anyone dealth with midentd for
Mandrake 7.2? And did you do any changes out of the
readme recommendations?

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[John Rye]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:49:00 -0500 (EST), Mark Weaver said:

>   I would think that it would be one of two things that cause this.
>
>1) plain old American arrogance

  NO comment !!

>2) a very "small" world view caused mainly by spending too much time in
>ones own back yard and not having enough contact with the outside world.

  Yes - it does seem for the visitor that there is a 'small world
view'

  A year or so ago, I spent a few weeks in the US, and was really
surprised
  at the numbers of people I met who hadn't been 'Out of STATE" let
alone
  the country.

>America being as big "physically" speaking as it is I wouldn't be all that
>surprised to find out that 80% of its population has never been out of the
>country. 

  I could 'understand' people I met who didn't know where my country
was,
  or that It's best known after all for it's ability to hold off a
concerted invasion
  attempt by the US Military for nearly 20 years only by means of
Flour-bags
  and Rubber Duckies!! However, that I seemed to know more about the 
  general physical geography of North America was a real stunner!!

  I remember one young woman who was amazed that one could sit in an
  aircraft for 15 hours without even seeing land just getting to the
US, and 
  THEN spend another 5 or 6 hours getting from one side to the
other!!! The
  same young woman was later heard to argue with another about the 
  difference between Texans and Arizonians - her primary argument
being
  that one must be more suntanned than the other - 'because of all
the desert'!! 

>That doesn't include Canada or Mexico. I'm referring to off the
>continent adventures and such. Its surprising how different the outlook
>and attitude of the Europeans is from that of the Americans. Being an
>American myself the difference between the European and American world
>views is sometimes startlingly great.

  I think you all think that, I think I know that you all think that,
I just wish that
  we all knew that we all knew that we all thought that !!  

  It would be a wonderful world if ALL it's (the worlds') population
realised just
  how small this speck of interplanetary dust we inhabit is!!

  Cheers

  John
-- 
 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
   (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)

Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

[DJW]

Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Don
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel


> On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:04 pm, DJW wrote:
> > As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and install the
> > new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, where do I
> > get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I
> > should compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
> > I see there are several sources available to download from.
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Don
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>It depends. Specially if like me, you have ReiserFS.  I prefer 
> Mandrake kernels because they're already patched to support Mandrake 
> specific features.  I've never seen any performance increase with 
> custom compiled kernels either. Mandrake prebuilts are just as good, 
> just as fast. Still I've tried many 2.4.0's from source and prebuilt, 
> Mandrake and otherwise.  They all boot fine and everything works ... 
> except supermount. I've heard on the cooker list that 2.4.1-pre9 will 
> work with a supermount-0.5.3-2.4.1-pre9.gz patch, and all 2.4.1-pre8 
> and higher support ReiserFS.  Mandrake kernels have supported Rfs for a 
> long time, vanilla source 2.4.0 kernels will if patched.  
> 
> I'd suggest you try a Mandrake prebuilt. It installs to it's own 
> dir in /usr/src/, and completely sets itself up, lilo changes included, 
> and doesn't interfere in any way with other kernel files. It will be an 
> option when you reboot, your current default will be unchanged. Latest 
> is   kernel-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm   on any cooker mirror.  Last one I 
> tried is -4mdk, and it correctly set itself up in lilo.conf except for 
> adding my ide-scsi append statement.  So check lilo.conf before you 
> reboot.
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
> 

Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[Vic]

What I don't get is why there are even "classes",
unless you are in school.

I went to computer school, so I guess
we were 'classified' hehe.

Re: [newbie] How do you create shortcuts or links to applications inEnlightenment?

[Romanator]

"Jesse C. Chang" wrote:
> 
> Romanator wrote:
> 
> > Lately, I have been using Enlightenment (more like fooling around with
> > it). Other than having cool looking effects, how the heck to you create
> > shortcuts and view the folders in the directory?
> 
> Until E 0.17 and EFM come out, you'll have to use another file manager,
> like GMC, Nautilus, DFM, KFM, etc.  Or you can open a terminal window, of
> course, if you don't mind working at the command line.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by shortcuts, though.  You can edit many of the
> menus by going into ~/.enlightenment and editing any *.menu file with your
> favorite text editor (vim, pico, etc.).  Or if you want desktop icon-type
> shortcuts, edit the contents of the .gnome-desktop/ folder (ln -s ...) and
> starting up GMC.  You can do the same with KFM, but I forget where the
> desktop shortcuts are.  And I'm too lazy to install DFM - I'd rather just
> wait for EFM, and use GMC in the meantime.  :)
> 
> If you haven't already, try reading Enlightenment Help.  Middle-click on
> the desktop and it should be in the menu.
> 
> Jesse
> 
> --
>!!   Jesse C. Chang  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [___]
>   `|'   "I have the simplest tastes.  I am always
>   /|\   satisfied with the best."  -- Oscar Wilde

Hi Jesse,

When I mean't by shortcuts(sorry for the Windose terminology), I was
referring to links on the virtual desktop. I would like to open and/or
point to a specific application.
By default, Enlightenment has nothing, and you have to go through a maze
of questions before you get anything. What happened to autoboot to KDE?

How did it Enlightenment set itself as the default graphical virtual
desktop? I used to have KDE as my default autoboot for user. I would
like to pick and choose my default. I can't reset it back to KDE. There
must be some sort of .conf file for this? And, I'm not too crazy about
reinstalling the entire Linux OS.

An ideas?

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

Re: [newbie] Crash report

[Vic]

oh poop

Sorry wrong button again!


>Since these appear to be KDE problems, I'd suggest you send them to 
>bugs.kde.org rather than the list.

>M.

On Saturday 20 January 2001 15:59, you wrote:
> Hello list
>
> I have a couple of crash reports,

Re: [newbie] Feature suggestion

[John W]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 14:58, you wrote:
> Hello
>
> I think it would be nice to have a feature
> put into a future mandrake version,
> capable of being disabled of course,
> that would, when rpm or an app cood not find
> a library, it would do a search the entire filesystem
> until it found one that would make the app work,
> or if it were not on the system it would then
> access the net and search for it automatically,
> asking the user if when it found it, if it was the
> right one, if the user did not know it would then
> try downloading and installing several different
> oens until it worked, and if desired, a go-along-with
> me type tutorial could also be ran at the time to
> teach newer users about the internal processes
> of a linux system, this feature and its subfeatures
> could all be disabled at the user's request if they
> already knew what they were doing in the case
> that it would be useless to them.
>
> What about that?
 There is such a feature unfortunately it is not available in an RPM based 
ditro as of yet! (HINT HINT) That is apt-get and it is in a devolpemental 
stage to run on rpm based distros. Currently it is a feature of Debian and 
Storm Linux. That is the one feature I would love to see in Mandrake. I guess 
urpmi is supposed to operate that way. I know if you enter a command such as,
$urpmi --auto rpmname.rpm it will check the config file for available sources 
and ask for the appropriate media in the case of the install CD-roms and 
install the required pkg as well as any depencies. I haven't done much with 
it to date I may try to add a ftp url for an rpm I would like to install and 
see what it does.
-- 
John W

Re: [newbie] How do you create shortcuts or links to applications inEnlightenment?

[Jesse C. Chang]

Romanator wrote:

> Lately, I have been using Enlightenment (more like fooling around with
> it). Other than having cool looking effects, how the heck to you create
> shortcuts and view the folders in the directory?

Until E 0.17 and EFM come out, you'll have to use another file manager,
like GMC, Nautilus, DFM, KFM, etc.  Or you can open a terminal window, of
course, if you don't mind working at the command line.

I'm not sure what you mean by shortcuts, though.  You can edit many of the
menus by going into ~/.enlightenment and editing any *.menu file with your
favorite text editor (vim, pico, etc.).  Or if you want desktop icon-type
shortcuts, edit the contents of the .gnome-desktop/ folder (ln -s ...) and
starting up GMC.  You can do the same with KFM, but I forget where the
desktop shortcuts are.  And I'm too lazy to install DFM - I'd rather just
wait for EFM, and use GMC in the meantime.  :)

If you haven't already, try reading Enlightenment Help.  Middle-click on
the desktop and it should be in the menu.


Jesse
 
-- 
   !!   Jesse C. Chang  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [___]
  `|'   "I have the simplest tastes.  I am always
  /|\   satisfied with the best."  -- Oscar Wilde

[newbie] BASH Arithmetic Evaluation

[SoloCDM]

I tried to evaluate an arithmetic value with a while command using
"while [ ${MANS} >= 4 ]", but it doesn't work . . . why?  Ignore the
omittance of do through done.

Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing
  list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:.

*
Signed,
SoloCDM

Re: [newbie] Helix Gnome

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

If you have the bandwidth, Helix (now Ximian) GNOME is definitely worth 
downloading and installing. Most official Mandrake updates are to fix 
security bugs, not to introduce new features. Ximian GNOME, on the other 
hand, provides the latest updates for packages (after being checked for bugs, 
of course). That way your system (the GNOME portion) will always be 
up-to-date.

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:04, Kevin Tambascio wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between Helix Gnome (or
> whatever its called now) and the Gnome that is installed with ML 7.2?   Is
> it worth downloading and installing?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

Re: [newbie] Switchdesk Missing in MDK7.2

[Digital Wokan]

Whoops.  Try starting kdm then, or just switching to runlevel 5 from the
command line.  I don't know if gdm or xdm have it, but kdm has a
drop-down list of desktops, and your choice remains the next time you do
a startx from the CLI.

Romanator wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> For some reason I cannot find switchdesk with Linux Mandrake 7.2. Can
> some one point me in the right direction for the correct rpm. Can I use
> the rpm from 7.1?
-- 
Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
Guerilla Linux Warrior

Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE

[Digital Wokan]

Swap them off every week or so.  Why choose when you can just work on
whichever you're in the mood for at the moment.  (And if you really
can't choose at that moment, let the last decision ride.)

Vic wrote:
> I can't decide, I like both KDE and GNOME,
> I use them interchangeably, so if I had
> to choose between them I would be stuck
> there like a runaway if else loop.
-- 
Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
Guerilla Linux Warrior

Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

[Christopher Molnar]

Your the second person that reported this. Can you please open a bug about it 
at: http://bugs.kde.org ?

I suspect a coding issue. I will update RPM's again on Tuesday most likely.

Thanks,
Chris

On Saturday 20 January 2001 18:54, David Boles wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:05:31 -0500, Christopher Molnar said:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I D/Led and installed the 2001.01.19 kdebase stuff as you said to do and
> things have improved but it looks like something else is really, really
> broken. Maybe not your stuff?? 
>
> Not being a programmer type I would think it must be something like the
> keybindings.
>
> Example: Kview. I was working on a simple "slideshow" of the pictures
> that I took of my father and where he lives, were I used to live, for my
> lady friends mother. The Ctrl-Alt-F key combo is supposed to give
> fullscreen. Nothing. The S key is supposed to start/stop the slideshow.
> Nothing.
>
> I used to be able to "highlight and copy" a line of text or a url from a
> GUI, like Netscape, and with 'Shift-Insert' paste it into a Xterm window.
> Now I get a ~5 and a warning beep.
>
> Any ideas?

[newbie] Switchdesk Missing in MDK7.2

[Romanator]

Hi everybody,

For some reason I cannot find switchdesk with Linux Mandrake 7.2. Can
some one point me in the right direction for the correct rpm. Can I use
the rpm from 7.1?

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

Re: [newbie] Error Compiling Netatalk

[A V Flinsch]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 16:48, you wrote:

>
> When I run make I get the following output before make exits:
>
> make[4]: Entering directory
> `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd'
> gcc  -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER   -DUAM_RNDNUM -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized
> -I../../include   -I/usr/local/include   -DUSE_PAM -DAPPLCNAME   -c -o
> unix.o unix.c
> In file included from unix.c:19:
> auth.h:12: security/pam_appl.h: No such file or directory



[alex@homer alex]$ locate pam_appl.h
/usr/share/doc/pam-doc-0.72/html/pam_appl.html
/usr/include/security/pam_appl.h
[alex@homer alex]$ rpm -qf /usr/include/security/pam_appl.h
pam-devel-0.72-13.1mdk  


>
> Any ideas on what I need to do to make this compile would be much
> appreciated.

install the pam-devel package. I think it is on the second cd. if you 
don't have it, try http://rpmfind.net

-- 
Alex
(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)

Re: [newbie] Tape drive problem

[Mark Weaver]

Dan,

try using Taper.

as root use this command.

taper -T st0

thats the program I use for my tape drive and it works fine.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Dan Shanahan wrote:

> I am not able to read from my tape drive.
>
> About 3 weeks ago, I installed Mandrake 7.1. Before that I had Redhat
> 5.2. I backed up some file on tape before installing Mandrake 7.1, but I
> can't read them. When I type in any mt command, like
>
> mt -f /dev/st0 tell
>
> the xterm appears to not respond.
> If I check the process in another xterm, the ps command lists the
> process as "down" & I can't kill the process.
>
> Does anyone know what would cause mt to not respond?
>
> Thanks, Dan
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[David Boles]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:49:00 -0500 (EST), Mark Weaver said:

Hi Mark,

I happen to be what the "high class Americans" call a "red-neck" But I
still like all of my fellow Linux friends. 

BTW: I have been "out of the country too" 


> I would think that it would be one of two things that cause this.
>  
>  1) plain old American arrogance
>  
>  2) a very "small" world view caused mainly by spending too much time in
>  ones own back yard and not having enough contact with the outside world.
>  
>  America being as big "physically" speaking as it is I wouldn't be all that
>  surprised to find out that 80% of its population has never been out of the
>  country. That doesn't include Canada or Mexico. I'm refering to off the
>  continent adventures and such. Its surprising how different the outlook
>  and attitude of the Europeans is from that of the Americans. Being an
>  American myself the difference between the European and American world
>  views is sometimes startlingly great.
>  
>  Just my two cents...
>  

-- 

David Boles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] Crash report

[Michael O'Henly]

Since these appear to be KDE problems, I'd suggest you send them to 
bugs.kde.org rather than the list.

M.

On Saturday 20 January 2001 15:59, you wrote:
> Hello list
>
> I have a couple of crash reports, listed below, attn: Developers!


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-- 
Michael O'Henly
TENZO Design

[newbie] Crash report

[Vic]

Hello list

I have a couple of crash reports, listed below, attn: Developers!



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(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
0x40c2ce39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40c2ce39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40c8d8e0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x404994d0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3

#3  0x40bca008 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6




  (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
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(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...0x40c04e39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40c04e39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40c658e0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x404454d0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3

#3  0x40ba2008 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x40ba3530 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x405fc96e in qFatal () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2
#6  0x40405a2e in KProcess::processExited () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3
#7  0x404069cd in KProcess::processHasExited () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3
#8  0x8b in ?? ()

Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE

[Vic]

I can't decide, I like both KDE and GNOME,
I use them interchangeably, so if I had
to choose between them I would be stuck
there like a runaway if else loop.




On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:14 pm, Jesse C. Chang wrote:
> Thio Yu Jin wrote:
> > Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome?
>
> It's not better, just different.  But here are some reasons why I prefer
> using it when I'm not root:
>
> 1)  It is one of, if not the most configurable window managers around.
>
> 2)  E has some great features, like the pager, desktop dragging, etc.
>
> 3)  KDE and Gnome are more "standard" in their approaches (being more like
>  Win/Mac OS);  if I wanted that, I'd have gotten a Mac (actually, I
>  still want one for doing professional music stuff...).
>
> 4)  Eye candy, eye candy, eye candy.
>
> I still use KDE as root, however, when total accessibility and ease of
> accessibility are all I care about.
>
>
> Jesse

[newbie] Stumped

[Vic]

Well, I guess I will have to stick with the old version 

the current version of SoundStudio only seems to want
to give me alot of %$# 

If someone could explain this, I would be very grateful,
because I sure as heck can't.

This is beyond my comprehension at the moment.

Thanks in advance.

Oh and thanks to Keith for at least getting me started
in solving this mystery.

I will keep picking away at it here for a few hours
today.


[root@kittypuss Downloads]# studio
Error in startup script: /usr/lib/SoundStudio/studio_tool: /lib/libc.so.6: 
version `GLIBC_2.2' not found (required by /usr/lib/SoundStudio/studio_tool)
while executing
"exec $FILE(Tool) diagnostics"
(procedure "CARDSetter" line 5)
invoked from within
"CARDSetter"
(file "/usr/lib/SoundStudio/init.tk" line 157)
invoked from within
"source $MYFILES/init.tk
"
(file "/usr/bin/studio" line 33)
[root@kittypuss Downloads]#  

[newbie] Uh oh bad rpm

[Vic]

Attention list, do not install SoundStudio-1.0.5-1mdk.i586.rpm
it is a bad rpm.



[root@kittypuss Downloads]# studio
Error in startup script: couldn't read file 
"/home/lenny/rpm/BUILD/SoundStudio/init.tk": no such file or directory
while executing
"source $MYFILES/init.tk
"
(file "/usr/bin/studio" line 33)
[root@kittypuss Downloads]

It was built wrong, the make forgot to exclude thier
home directory from when they were making it.

[newbie] Feature suggestion

[Vic]

Hello

I think it would be nice to have a feature
put into a future mandrake version,
capable of being disabled of course,
that would, when rpm or an app cood not find
a library, it would do a search the entire filesystem
until it found one that would make the app work,
or if it were not on the system it would then
access the net and search for it automatically,
asking the user if when it found it, if it was the
right one, if the user did not know it would then
try downloading and installing several different
oens until it worked, and if desired, a go-along-with
me type tutorial could also be ran at the time to
teach newer users about the internal processes
of a linux system, this feature and its subfeatures
could all be disabled at the user's request if they
already knew what they were doing in the case
that it would be useless to them.

What about that?

[newbie] Won't install, and I do have the glibc rpm in

[Vic]

Why won't SoundStudio install when I
already installed the stupid glibc 2 that it 
asked for?

[root@kittypuss Downloads]# rpm -ivh SoundStudio-1.0.5-1mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by SoundStudio-1.0.5-1mdk
[root@kittypuss Downloads]#

I do not comprehend

It is lying, I have it installed

Is it broken?

[newbie] Can't print

[Vic]

My printer does not print.

I can't make cups go

linuxprinting.org is too hard can't do it.

Please give step by step instructions.

I have black and white HP Deskjet, thats
all, no numbers.

Please help, I am without a printer if I
can't make it go.

Re: [newbie] What's your favorite Plextor burner?

[Mike Baker]

It was about 180 uk pounds a few months back. It's a W1210A - 12 speed 
write, 32 speed read, 10 speed re-write, burn-proof, ide.

At 22:38 20/01/2001, you wrote:
>Mike Baker wrote:
> >
> > I have a 12/110/32A IDE burnproof, and it's fantastic - never does a bad
> > burn, and very fast (12 speed).
> >
> > At 12:50 20/01/2001, you wrote:
> > >Hi everybody,
> > >
> > >As I am on my way to the store this weekend, I thought I'd poll people
> > >using Plextor.
> > >What is your favorite Plextor model for burning cds?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Roman
> > >Registered Linux User #179293
> >
> > Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
> > Frag Fest LAN Parties www.fragfest.f2s.com
>
>How much did it cost?
>--
>Roman
>Registered Linux User #179293
>High Powered Penguin Email

Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
Frag Fest LAN Parties www.fragfest.f2s.com

Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

[David Boles]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:05:31 -0500, Christopher Molnar said:

Hi Chris,

I D/Led and installed the 2001.01.19 kdebase stuff as you said to do and
things have improved but it looks like something else is really, really
broken. Maybe not your stuff??  

Not being a programmer type I would think it must be something like the
keybindings.

Example: Kview. I was working on a simple "slideshow" of the pictures
that I took of my father and where he lives, were I used to live, for my
lady friends mother. The Ctrl-Alt-F key combo is supposed to give
fullscreen. Nothing. The S key is supposed to start/stop the slideshow.
Nothing.

I used to be able to "highlight and copy" a line of text or a url from a
GUI, like Netscape, and with 'Shift-Insert' paste it into a Xterm window.
Now I get a ~5 and a warning beep.  

Any ideas?

-- 

David Boles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] How do I set up my default to KDE rather than Enlightenment?

[Romanator]

Digital Wokan wrote:
> 
> switchdesk (bring it up in a terminal window if it isn't in your menu)
> Of course, be sure you installed the RPM's for it first.
> 
> Romanator wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was checking out some of the other themes in Enlightenment. However,
> > every time I reboot, I boot to Enlightenment. How do I reset the boot up
> > back to KDE?
> >
> > --
> > Roman
> > Registered Linux User #179293
> > High Energy Penguin Powered Email
> 
> --
> Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
> Guerilla Linux Warrior

I'll give it a go. Thanks.

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

Re: [newbie] How do I set up my default to KDE rather than Enlightenment?

[Digital Wokan]

switchdesk (bring it up in a terminal window if it isn't in your menu)
Of course, be sure you installed the RPM's for it first.

Romanator wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was checking out some of the other themes in Enlightenment. However,
> every time I reboot, I boot to Enlightenment. How do I reset the boot up
> back to KDE?
> 
> --
> Roman
> Registered Linux User #179293
> High Energy Penguin Powered Email

-- 
Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
Guerilla Linux Warrior

[newbie] How do I set up my default to KDE rather than Enlightenment?

[Romanator]

Hi all,

I was checking out some of the other themes in Enlightenment. However,
every time I reboot, I boot to Enlightenment. How do I reset the boot up
back to KDE?

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

Re: [newbie] Darn Upgrades

[Mark Weaver]

Vic,

Why not just point everything back to the /home dir instead of getting
used to things being in /var? Change the config files of the ftp, httpd
servers to point to the /home dir. That's where mine are pointing to. That
or you could make sym-links to point back to those directories.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Vic wrote:

> O yes, same here with the partitions.
>
> I never NEVER trust the upgrade funtion, especially
> when making a bigger jump, I jumped from
> 7.0 to 7.2 and had enough problems as it was,
> however when I figured out how the new system
> ran, things are now beginning to stabilise a little
> bit.
>
> I still have not figured out how to fix the ftp thing,
> I really hate that you have to now put the files in
> /var/ftp that is on the / partition and I don't
> have the room there like I do on /home/ftp
> what a sucky way to change a system,
> but over all I do like 7.2 its not all that
> bad and there is more automatic configging
> for the well supported hardware, one has to just
> pick and choose their hardware carefully.
>
>
>
> On Friday 19 January 2001 11:54 pm, you wrote:
> > I just tried to upgrade to 7.2 and I got a screwed up Linux system.
> > Thank GOD I have my /home partition separate from my / partition.  I am
> > just going to do a clean install of Linux-Mandrake 7.2.  Anybody else
> > have that problem upgrading?  This has happened before when I tried to
> > upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1.  No wonder I fear the downloading and
> > installing of the 2.4 kernel.
>

Re: [newbie] Darn Upgrades

[Mark Weaver]

Jay!...I can't believe that a good Celt like yourself would have forgotten
all the previous posts to this list advising against "upgrades" as opposed
to fresh installs of Mdk 7.2.

too many differences between 7.1 and 7.2 to make an upgrade a reasonable,
stable alternative to a fresh install.

O yeah...and by the way. God Bless Ireland!

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Jay wrote:

> I just tried to upgrade to 7.2 and I got a screwed up Linux system.
> Thank GOD I have my /home partition separate from my / partition.  I am
> just going to do a clean install of Linux-Mandrake 7.2.  Anybody else
> have that problem upgrading?  This has happened before when I tried to
> upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1.  No wonder I fear the downloading and
> installing of the 2.4 kernel.
>

RE: [newbie] a dumb monitor question?

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Some video adapters do not handle returning from DPMI or "Sleep" mode
properly. As a result the video card does not re-initialize it's chip set
upon restart as it should.

The end result is Linux continues to "talk" to the chipset but the chipset
does not produce a video signal.

Your best bet is to disable Standby and power off modes and just turn the
monitor off...

OR you could buy a different video card...

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chris
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] a dumb monitor question?


Hi all,

When I leave my computer unattended for long periods, I leave the
machine itself on but turn the monitor off.  Normally, when I come back,
I can turn the monitor back on and just move the mouse or hit 'space' to
get the green light back on and the picture to come up.

Sometimes, however, it will not come back up when I turn the monitor
back on.  The green light stays amber and there's no picture.  None of
the keys or key combinations will make it come back.  Only the 'reset'
button on the case will restart the machine, with ugly consequences
(hda1 not cleanly unmounted, etc.)  This happens in LM 7.2;  when I run
the same machine in windows, the problem doesn't occur (though I've seen
other windows machines that _have_ had it happen).

Is there something I have set up wrong?  Could it have to do with the
X-screensaver or maybe the monitor refresh rates?

Thanks so much for your help,
Chris

Re: [newbie] Two little problems

[Dennis Myers]

Same with my external modem, works great, harddrake doesn't see it .

On Saturday 20 January 2001 07:50 pm, you wrote:
> Hi,
>  ML 7.2 knows that there is an external modom there, but Hardrake is not
> recognizing it.
>  I have the exact same situation on my system.
>  I use kppp, and during configuration, told the system that the modem was
> on ttyS0. Everything has worked perfectly since ML 6.0.
>  During installation of ML 7.2, I was warned that there was a problem with
> the winmodem. However, the installation program installed my external
> modem. Try to connect to your ISP. Perhaps your external modem is
> configured. Hardrake will not recognize my external modem, but everything
> works fine.
>
>   Harvey
>
> On Friday 19 January 2001 23:01, you wrote:
> > At 19-01-2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Question 2. My computer came with a winmodem installed but I have an
> > >external USR modem that I connected to one of the ports on the back
> > > (COMM1). The problem is that ML7.2 does not know there is a modem
> > > connected (checked Hardrake and there is nothing  there, no modem is
> > > seen). How do I make sure the ML knows  there is a modem attached?
> >
> > Suggest take out the winmodem,  in Windows configure the external USR on
> > COM1 (not COMM1); reboot into your Linux, link /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS0 -
> > that is Big S and zero. If you have kppp in your Linux Box, use it to
> > connect to your ISP. HTH, if you need further info mail me off the list.

-- 
  Dennis M.
  Registered Linux user #180842

Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[Mark Weaver]

I would think that it would be one of two things that cause this.

1) plain old American arrogance

2) a very "small" world view caused mainly by spending too much time in
ones own back yard and not having enough contact with the outside world.

America being as big "physically" speaking as it is I wouldn't be all that
surprised to find out that 80% of its population has never been out of the
country. That doesn't include Canada or Mexico. I'm refering to off the
continent adventures and such. Its surprising how different the outlook
and attitude of the Europeans is from that of the Americans. Being an
American myself the difference between the European and American world
views is sometimes startlingly great.

Just my two cents...

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> Can someone please tell me why everyone assumes everyone else on this list is
> American? Not even Mandrakesoft is American, in fact it's French!
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:08, mike keener wrote:
> > hello america::
> > when attempting to download and install drakxtools 1.1.5-33 from any
> > mirror site i get a "no signature"..
> > has anyone else had the same problem with this RPM
> >
> >regards
> >mike keener-wb6iik
>
>

RE: [newbie] Where O where did Soundstudio go???

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Give this page a try:

http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/

You'll be glad you did.

Check out SLAB too!

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vic
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Where O where did Soundstudio go???


Hello list.

Would anyone know what happened to 'SoundStudio' ?

I think the leeds.co.uk web page that housed it
has disappeared, or at least I cannot seem to
find it.

I am looking for a good sound editor, and sox
is good, but sometimes I am not in the mood for
commandline, and need some GUI visuals.

thanks

Vic

Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

[Tom Brinkman]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:04 pm, DJW wrote:
> As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and install the
> new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, where do I
> get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I
> should compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
> I see there are several sources available to download from.
> Thanks in advance,
> Don
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   It depends. Specially if like me, you have ReiserFS.  I prefer 
Mandrake kernels because they're already patched to support Mandrake 
specific features.  I've never seen any performance increase with 
custom compiled kernels either. Mandrake prebuilts are just as good, 
just as fast. Still I've tried many 2.4.0's from source and prebuilt, 
Mandrake and otherwise.  They all boot fine and everything works ... 
except supermount. I've heard on the cooker list that 2.4.1-pre9 will 
work with a supermount-0.5.3-2.4.1-pre9.gz patch, and all 2.4.1-pre8 
and higher support ReiserFS.  Mandrake kernels have supported Rfs for a 
long time, vanilla source 2.4.0 kernels will if patched.  

I'd suggest you try a Mandrake prebuilt. It installs to it's own 
dir in /usr/src/, and completely sets itself up, lilo changes included, 
and doesn't interfere in any way with other kernel files. It will be an 
option when you reboot, your current default will be unchanged. Latest 
is   kernel-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm   on any cooker mirror.  Last one I 
tried is -4mdk, and it correctly set itself up in lilo.conf except for 
adding my ide-scsi append statement.  So check lilo.conf before you 
reboot.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] Error Compiling Netatalk

[Michael O'Henly]

Hi...

I assume you have a reason for wanting to build netatalk from sources. If 
not, you might want to try the Mandrake rpm "netatalk-1.5pre3-1mdk.i586.rpm" 
which can be found on RPMFind. I installed this a few days ago and it runs 
very well.

Drop me a note if you have any trouble setting it up. I'm not an expert but I have 
fiddled with netatalk a bit lately and may be able to 
help.

M.

On Saturday 20 January 2001 13:48, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am running Linux-Mandrake 7.2 (installed from downloaded ISO) on an AMD
> Athlon based system with 128MB of RAM. I have the kernel sources installed
> and have successfully compiled a kernel.
>
> I am trying to install netatalk following the instructions provided in the
> Netatalk HOWTO: 
>
> I downloaded the source recommended :
> r.gz>
>
> Then "tar -xvzf"ed it into ~/src/
>
> I obtained a couple of files from other software packages and placed them
> in ~/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/include, as specified in the HOWTO. The
> files were tcpd.h from TCP_Wrappers 7.6 and des.h from libdes.
>
> A couple of steps in the HOWTO's instructions for editing the makefile
> mention PAM and shadow passwords. Both of these steps could be skipped if
> you have both PAM and shadow passwords. Near as I can tell this is true of
> Mandrake 7.2, am I correct? Anyhow, I did not change anything in the
> makefile.
>
> When I run make I get the following output before make exits:
>
> make[4]: Entering directory
> `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd'
> gcc  -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER   -DUAM_RNDNUM -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized
> -I../../include   -I/usr/local/include   -DUSE_PAM -DAPPLCNAME   -c -o
> unix.o unix.c
> In file included from unix.c:19:
> auth.h:12: security/pam_appl.h: No such file or directory
> make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving directory
> `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all]
> Error 2
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd]
> Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc'
> make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/sys/linux'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> [root@crank netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3]#
>
> The compleat output of make is available here just in case someone needs to
> see more of if: 
>
> Any ideas on what I need to do to make this compile would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks Much
> David Nelson

-- 
Michael O'Henly
TENZO Design

Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

[Dennis Myers]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 10:05 pm, you wrote:
> On Saturday 20 January 2001 17:07, George Czerw wrote:
> > After I updated 7.2 with the 0118 KDE 2.1 updates, and subsequently
> > rebooted, I have the following problems:
> >
> > 1.  At the KDE login screen a root login is forbidden.
>
> I put a new kdebase package onto the mirrors you do not need to update all
> packages, just base and this is fixed.
>
> > 2.  Once logged in as user, I have 4 desktop applinks that no longer
> > work, regardless of whether I delete and rebuild the applinks!
> > However if I open up a terminal window and enter the same
> > command-lines, the apps function properly.
>
> Please let me know which 4 this helps me come up with ideas? What is the
> command line you enter?
>
> > Any ideas on solving either problem?
>
> update kdebase for the #1 and more info for #2.
>
> -Chris

I have the same problem,  ever window manager shows on the drop down list but 
only KDE and GNOME work.. I thought they were all there and functioning until 
I logged off and tried a different one.
-- 
  Dennis M.
  Registered Linux user #180842

Re: [newbie] What's your favorite Plextor burner?

[Romanator]

Mike Baker wrote:
> 
> I have a 12/110/32A IDE burnproof, and it's fantastic - never does a bad
> burn, and very fast (12 speed).
> 
> At 12:50 20/01/2001, you wrote:
> >Hi everybody,
> >
> >As I am on my way to the store this weekend, I thought I'd poll people
> >using Plextor.
> >What is your favorite Plextor model for burning cds?
> >
> >--
> >Roman
> >Registered Linux User #179293
> 
> Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
> Frag Fest LAN Parties www.fragfest.f2s.com

How much did it cost?
-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Powered Penguin Email

[newbie] Error Compiling Netatalk

[David Nelson]

Hello,

I am running Linux-Mandrake 7.2 (installed from downloaded ISO) on an AMD 
Athlon based system with 128MB of RAM. I have the kernel sources installed 
and have successfully compiled a kernel.

I am trying to install netatalk following the instructions provided in the 
Netatalk HOWTO: 

I downloaded the source recommended :


Then "tar -xvzf"ed it into ~/src/

I obtained a couple of files from other software packages and placed them in 
~/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/include, as specified in the HOWTO. The files 
were tcpd.h from TCP_Wrappers 7.6 and des.h from libdes.

A couple of steps in the HOWTO's instructions for editing the makefile 
mention PAM and shadow passwords. Both of these steps could be skipped if you 
have both PAM and shadow passwords. Near as I can tell this is true of 
Mandrake 7.2, am I correct? Anyhow, I did not change anything in the makefile.

When I run make I get the following output before make exits:

make[4]: Entering directory 
`/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd'
gcc  -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER   -DUAM_RNDNUM -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized
-I../../include   -I/usr/local/include   -DUSE_PAM -DAPPLCNAME   -c -o unix.o 
unix.c
In file included from unix.c:19:
auth.h:12: security/pam_appl.h: No such file or directory
make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd'
make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc'
make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/sys/linux'
make: *** [all] Error 2
[root@crank netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3]#
  
The compleat output of make is available here just in case someone needs to 
see more of if: 

Any ideas on what I need to do to make this compile would be much appreciated.

Thanks Much
David Nelson

Re: [newbie] Where O where did Soundstudio go???

[Romanator]

Tom Brinkman wrote:
> 
> On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:28 pm, Vic wrote:
> 
> > Would anyone know what happened to 'SoundStudio' ?
> 
>It's on Mandrake /contrib mirrors
>  SoundStudio-1.0.5-1mdk
> --
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Hi Tom,

I found it. Please check the link below:

http://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib//RPMS

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Powered Penguin Email

RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt

[Bob Currey]

I think I'll be saving this msg for another day...  Thanks for the info...
BobC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of eryl
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt


Bob Currey wrote:
>
> Yup, I did read that, and a bunch more...
>
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html
>
> The how to, although having plenty of good info, does not address win/2000
> or nt at all since the author had neither.
>
Meph has his way, I have mine.  My preference is to use the NT/Win2000
bootloader to control the boot-up process.

Load Win2000(or NT4.0) first, preferrably on the 1st partition.  If
you're using 2 drives, put it on the primary drive (the Windows boot
sector needs to be on the drive that the bios looks at first).

Second, install linux and be absolutely certain that you create a boot
disk! Choose lilo as the bootloader and DO NOT install it to the mbr,
but install it to the first linux partition, mine is hda6 (or to the
linux drive if you are using 2 harddisks).  When this is done the
lilo.conf boot line (boot=) should point to the linux partition, NOT the
Win2000 partition.

Now, we need to get the linux boot sector to Windows 2000.  Boot with
the linux floppy and then remove the floppy, put in a blank diskette and
mount the drive (it will probably already be mounted, but if not use the
following command)  mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

Copy the LILO boot sector to the floppy with the command:

dd if=/dev/hda6 bs=512 count=1 of=mnt/floppy/linux.bin

Substitute the hda6 for whatever your first linux partition is (you
know, the one that you installed LILO to).

Reboot into Windows2000 and copy the linux.bin file from the floppy to
your root drive (C:\).  Next, use Notepad to open the boot.ini file and
add the line:C:\linux.bin="Mandrake Linux"to the end of the file
(write the boot.ini file if you have to, unaccountably, some NT4.0
boot.ini's are blank.

This is what my boot.ini looks like:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 /fa
c:\linux.bin="Mandrake Linux"

  Save and exit.  Open an MSDOS window and at the prompt:
  C:>attrib -s -r boot.ini

Reboot with no floppy in the drive and you should see an option for
Linux Mandrake.  You may need to open My Computer, choose Properties,
then Advanced and in the startup and recovery section check the box to
display all operating systems, and then set the number of seconds to
display the screen before booting the default OS.  You can make Linux
the default if you wish.

Server Setup Problems: Was Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[David Thompson]

Thank you for responding Mark.  I want to run LM 7.0 as a server only, with
a command-line interface.

I running Cat 5 wire through a 8-port hub.  My Linux box (Server) is the
following:
CPU:  90 Mhz Pentium
RAM: 32 MB
Audio: None
Samba: Ver 2.0.6
NIC:  Realtek 8139 - PCI Bus 10/100 Mbps
HD:  IDE HD 1,626 MB
CDRom: ATAPE 36X
Bios: Award Plug & Play - PCI Bios v1.0a
IP Address:  192.168.0.1

Client #1:
Mfr:  NEC, Ready 9716
CPU:  200 Mhz MMX
RAM:  32 EDO MB
HD:  3.2 GB
CDRom: 16X
Modem:  33.6 Kbps
OS:  Win98 SR2
NIC:  Realtek 8139 - PCI Bus 10/100 Mbps
IP Address:  192.168.0.2

Client #2:
Mfr:  Compaq Presario
CPU:  Celeron 1Ghz
RAM:  257 MB
OS:  Win2000 Professional
NIC:  Realtek 8139 - PCI Bus 10/100 Mbps
IP Address:  192.168.0.3


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mandrake Newbie List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux


> David,
>
> In many ways Linux is nothing like what you're used to. And much more like
> the mainframes you've programmed for all these years.
>
> What protocols are you using to get the boxes to talk to the Linux box.
> I'm assuming that you're using the Linux box as a file server, right?
>
> --
> Mark
>
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM

[Christopher Molnar]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 17:07, George Czerw wrote:

> After I updated 7.2 with the 0118 KDE 2.1 updates, and subsequently
> rebooted, I have the following problems:
>
> 1.  At the KDE login screen a root login is forbidden.

I put a new kdebase package onto the mirrors you do not need to update all 
packages, just base and this is fixed.

>
> 2.  Once logged in as user, I have 4 desktop applinks that no longer
> work, regardless of whether I delete and rebuild the applinks!
> However if I open up a terminal window and enter the same
> command-lines, the apps function properly.

Please let me know which 4 this helps me come up with ideas? What is the 
command line you enter?

>
> Any ideas on solving either problem?
>

update kdebase for the #1 and more info for #2.

-Chris

Re: [newbie]

[Tom Brinkman]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 02:30 pm, Jon Doe wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> >Actually this does indicate hardware errors, and the CD's would
> > be included as hardware.  Getting errors at different places, is a
> > strong clue that it's defective or marginal hardware.  Same thing
> > applies to failed compiles, eg, a kernel from source.
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
>
> But why all 3 sets of Mandrake 7.2 CD's, but not 7.1 and RedHat7.0?

   Because RH is i386 and will run on marginal hardware.  To a lesser 
degree the same can be said of LM 7.1, it will run on marginal hardware 
when 7.2 won't.  You might try loading the 7.2 CD's to the HDD and 
installing from there.  Instructions are on the CD, install.htm

-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] usb

[Altoine Barker]

What are you running?
LM7.2, 2.2.16, 2.4.0, ?
by knowing the kernel version, I want you to next tell me what modules are loaded on 
your machine.
Type in this command to get the data

/sbin/lsmod

Cheers
-- Al



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi, I had the same problem. I think it has something to do with the IRQs and
> the sound card. There is something about it on the sound blaster web site I
> think. You could check out the mandrake web site also. I am looking for the
> info and will post it asap.
> Regards Anthony Daniell
> Just visiting this planet
> have a nice day.
> Jesus is Love.
> Anthony Daniell
> - Original Message -
> From: gauin_36 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:11 AM
> Subject: [newbie] usb
> 
> 
> : mandrake does not detect my usb ports during start up, where can I go to
> mount
> : (if I have to) my usb ports?? I'm using a soundblaster live card and  a
> asus
> : cusl2 motherboard.
> :
> : Sincerely,
> : Gavin
> :
> :
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] What's your favorite Plextor burner?

[Vic]

I like the Plextor PX-W8432T
lower price than the higher speed one
and I don't really care to burn at
high speeds than 2 or 4 anyway,
slower burn, better copy.

Just my 2 cents

On Saturday 20 January 2001 06:50 am, you wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> As I am on my way to the store this weekend, I thought I'd poll people
> using Plextor.
> What is your favorite Plextor model for burning cds?

Re: [newbie] Basic question re startup scripts

[Neville Cobb]

"Henryk M. Kowalski" wrote:
> 
> Forgive the "less than newbie" nature of this question.  I'm sure there's
> written info on this out there already, but I can't find it...
> 
> In Linux Mandrake, (specifically 6.x, 7.0 and 7.2): what is the basic order of
> startup scripts that are executed when the system starts up the first time, and
> on subsequent logins?  What directories and in what order should I look to learn
> more about this process?
> I figure that in order to really understand the nuts and bolts of my system(s)
> I need to try to follow this process.
> 
> Thank you.
If you are using mandrake 7.2 there is a good introduction into
scripting in the kmenu/documentation/newbies guide to linux (chapter 6).

Nev

Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE

[Jesse C. Chang]

Thio Yu Jin wrote:

> Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome?

It's not better, just different.  But here are some reasons why I prefer
using it when I'm not root:

1)  It is one of, if not the most configurable window managers around.

2)  E has some great features, like the pager, desktop dragging, etc.

3)  KDE and Gnome are more "standard" in their approaches (being more like
 Win/Mac OS);  if I wanted that, I'd have gotten a Mac (actually, I
 still want one for doing professional music stuff...).

4)  Eye candy, eye candy, eye candy.

I still use KDE as root, however, when total accessibility and ease of
accessibility are all I care about. 


Jesse

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  /|\   satisfied with the best."  -- Oscar Wilde

[newbie] How do you create shortcuts or links to applications in Enlightenment?

[Romanator]

Hi all,

Lately, I have been using Enlightenment (more like fooling around with
it). Other than having cool looking effects, how the heck to you create
shortcuts and view the folders in the directory?

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

RE: [newbie] Internet connection Sharing

[Jose M. Sanchez]

What you want is called MASQ.

Linux does this very well.

Mandrake 7.2 has a little utility to do all the set up work for you.

You merely get your internet connection in Linux running properly then
enable Internet Connection Sharing...

Reboot your windows machines and you are done!

-JMS
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julio Gutierrez
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Internet connection Sharing
Importance: High


Does anyone know if there is a possible way of sharing internet connection
to Windows boxes with mandrake? or possibly have a computer setup as a
router for those win boxes? if anyone knows how or knows where i can get
info about this please let me know your replies will be greatly
apprecciated.


Thanx


Julio

Re: [newbie]

[Romanator]

Jon Doe wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> 
> >Actually this does indicate hardware errors, and the CD's would be
> > included as hardware.  Getting errors at different places, is a strong
> > clue that it's defective or marginal hardware.  Same thing applies to
> > failed compiles, eg, a kernel from source.
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
> 
> But why all 3 sets of Mandrake 7.2 CD's, but not 7.1 and RedHat7.0?

Every so often, a CD manufacturer nears the end of a "lot number" when
stamping CDs. 
The pits and grooves in the master CD become worn out. The master has to
be replaced. Unfortunately, some of the them get packaged and shipped
out. This happens on all sorts of software with all software companies. 

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

Re: [newbie]

[Jon Doe]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, you wrote:

>Actually this does indicate hardware errors, and the CD's would be 
> included as hardware.  Getting errors at different places, is a strong 
> clue that it's defective or marginal hardware.  Same thing applies to 
> failed compiles, eg, a kernel from source.
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

But why all 3 sets of Mandrake 7.2 CD's, but not 7.1 and RedHat7.0?

Re: [newbie] What's your favorite Plextor burner?

[KompuKit]

Vic...did you ever get the plextor working correctly, in
linux?
how much did it cost...and where did you get it

Vic wrote:
> 
> I like the Plextor PX-W8432T
> lower price than the higher speed one
> and I don't really care to burn at
> high speeds than 2 or 4 anyway,
> slower burn, better copy.
> 
> Just my 2 cents
> 
> On Saturday 20 January 2001 06:50 am, you wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > As I am on my way to the store this weekend, I thought I'd poll people
> > using Plextor.
> > What is your favorite Plextor model for burning cds?

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Re: [newbie]

[Tom Brinkman]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 10:07 am, Jon Doe wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> > Judith; There are several possibilities that come to mind.
> >
> > 1 - Your CD-Rom drive is defective?
> > 2 - Your CD's are defective? ( This just happened to me on CD#3 -
> > Mandrake is sending me a replacement)

> Well I have had the same problem with my 7.2. I know its not
> defective CD's though, the error is on different packages everytime
> and I have 3 different sets of 7.2 CDs, the complete from walmart,
> two cd set from cheapbytes and the deluxe 7 cd set from staples and I
> always get the same thing, some error ocoured installing some package
> or other.
> CD-Rom is not defective becuase 7.1 and Redhat will install with no
> errors. 

   Actually this does indicate hardware errors, and the CD's would be 
included as hardware.  Getting errors at different places, is a strong 
clue that it's defective or marginal hardware.  Same thing applies to 
failed compiles, eg, a kernel from source.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

[newbie] a dumb monitor question?

[Chris]

Hi all,

When I leave my computer unattended for long periods, I leave the
machine itself on but turn the monitor off.  Normally, when I come back,
I can turn the monitor back on and just move the mouse or hit 'space' to
get the green light back on and the picture to come up.

Sometimes, however, it will not come back up when I turn the monitor
back on.  The green light stays amber and there's no picture.  None of
the keys or key combinations will make it come back.  Only the 'reset'
button on the case will restart the machine, with ugly consequences
(hda1 not cleanly unmounted, etc.)  This happens in LM 7.2;  when I run
the same machine in windows, the problem doesn't occur (though I've seen
other windows machines that _have_ had it happen). 

Is there something I have set up wrong?  Could it have to do with the
X-screensaver or maybe the monitor refresh rates? 

Thanks so much for your help,
Chris

RE: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE

[Mark Weaver]

Hmmm...that's just a vicious rumor. It's not true.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Thio Yu Jin wrote:

> Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome?
>
> Jin
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John MacCallum
> > Sent: 17 January 2001 13:59
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jesse C. Chang; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
> >
> >
> > On 1/16/01 11:09 PM, "Jesse C. Chang"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Philip David Morgan wrote:
> > >
> > >> The burning question of the night:
> > >>
> > >>> What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE?
> > >>
> > >> Neither, except for administrational needs. Otherwise, I'm
> > a WindowMaker
> > >> & Englightenment devotee
> > >
> > > Same here.  I use KDE when running as root.  Otherwise,
> > it's Enlightenment
> > > all the way.  I can't wait until E 0.17 and EFM are released.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jesse
> >
> > Yup, me too.  Enlightenment is fantastic.  I've also used
> > AfterStep and
> > WindowMaker and like them a lot, but it's all about Enlightenment.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>

[newbie] Where O where did Soundstudio go???

[Vic]

Hello list.

Would anyone know what happened to 'SoundStudio' ?

I think the leeds.co.uk web page that housed it
has disappeared, or at least I cannot seem to
find it.

I am looking for a good sound editor, and sox
is good, but sometimes I am not in the mood for
commandline, and need some GUI visuals.

thanks

Vic

Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[Mark Weaver]

Yes... all that and I can have icing too!

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Romanator wrote:

> Ahh.. Yes and no DLLs..
>
>
> Mark Weaver wrote:
> >
> > All of the above and anything else that folks can think of to do with
> > Linux. For me there is no other OS worth my time or energy.
> >
> > --
> > Mark
> >
> > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> > "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> >
> > Linus Torvalds
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> >
> > > If everything "has a purpose" then what exactly *is* Linux's purpose? Is it
> > > to run desktop workstations? Servers? Supercomputers? PDAs? Web pads?
> > > Wristwatches? Linux has been proven to run well on all these devices, and it
> > > is continuing to push both downwards (towards embedded devices, etc.) and
> > > upwards (towards high-end servers, etc.), while consolidating its position
> > > in the middle (desktop computers, etc.).
> > >
> > > While I believe that Linux can be an excellent alternative to M$ Windos, I
> > > must admit that my greatest fear is that it will be "dumbed down" to cater
> > > for ordinary users. This fear, while not totally baseless, is unlikely to
> > > eventuate. There will always be serious computer users, who don't want a
> > > "dumb" OS. There are, and always will be, apps to cater for these people,
> > > especially since these are the people who code most Linux apps anyway. KDE
> > > too "dumb" for you? Use WindowMaker, or BlackBox, or XFce... Think the
> > > default Linux kernel is too bloated? Recompile it and include only what you
> > > need. Linux is the most scalable OS ever to exist, and this scalability is
> > > increasing with time. Linux can be whatever you make it to be. Want it to
> > > run a Windos competitor? With GNOME and KDE it already is. Want it to work at
> > > the enterprise level? Kernel 2.4 supports the high-end processors like the
> > > Itanium in multiprocessor configurations and up to 64GB of RAM. Want it to
> > > run a PDA? Compile a tiny kernel and run something like QT-embedded or
> > > GTK-embedded. And the most important point is that Linux excels in all these
> > > scenarios. See my point?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:35, Adrian Smith wrote:
> > > > this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here.   =)
> > > > i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at saying
> > > > than I am.  probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom isn't.
> > > >
> > > > but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much about
> > > > converting windoze users?  should we make 18 wheelers with automatic stick
> > > > shifts so that everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck?
> > > >
> > > > a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a
> > > > purpose. they are not the same purpose.
> > > >
> > > > a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
> > > > they are not the same purpose.
> > > >
> > > > windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
> > > > they are not the same purpose.
> > > >
> > > > use the right tool for the right job.
> > > >
> > > > if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using
> > > > windows? i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't
> > > > understand this. no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
> > > > name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person
> > > > on the planet.
> > > >
> > > > i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.
> > > >
> > > > i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now.   =)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Adrian Smith
> > > > 'de telepone dude
> > > > Telecom Dept.
> > > > x 7042
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > >>> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 >>>
> > > >
> > > >   OK y'all  !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread
> > > > starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ;>  Actually I thought it was
> > > > a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the
> > > > perception of.
> > > >
> > > >The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb.  A current 'du
> > > > -ch /' with my windoze drive umounted is ~4 gigs! ... and I've
> > > > uninstalled a lot of the apps I don't use, and there's linux stuff on
> > > > the windoze drive, not in that count.  I like it just the way it is,
> > > > the installer that is.  What brandNewbie doesn't install several times
> > > > before they 'settle in' ?  ...and for experienced users, it's easy,
> > > > albeit time consuming, to install just what you want.  As much or
> > > > little.  LM's installation let's YOU choose.  I believe there's nothin
> > > > that needs changin.  I like the current 

Re: [newbie] Internet connection Sharing

[Quaylar]

At 08:48 20.01.2001 -1000, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is a possible way of sharing internet connection
>to Windows boxes with mandrake? or possibly have a computer setup as a
>router for those win boxes? if anyone knows how or knows where i can get
>info about this please let me know your replies will be greatly
>apprecciated.
>
>
>Thanx
>
>
>Julio


julio,

check out following url´s:

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/cipc.html

http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IPCHAINS-HOWTO.html

http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/nag2/index.html

ip masquerading is the solution ;)

--quay


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[newbie] 2.4 Kernel

[DJW]

Ok, my system is up and running just fine (M7.2), cd burner works, dsl
works, and life is good.  So I am going to once again throw my
Grandfathers advice out the window (if it's not broken, don't fix it) 
:-)

As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and install the
new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, where do I
get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I should
compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
I see there are several sources available to download from.
Thanks in advance,
Don 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.

[-michael-]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 12:31 pm, regarding Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 
question., you said:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  > Dennis Myers wrote:
>  > > When it boots to the login box that wants either the user + password
>  > > or root + password there is a button that has kde on it
>  > > click on that button and all of the installed choices including gnome
>  > > will drop down. Click gnome and pull up a
>  > > mushroom. Oh, then click "go"  sorry my strange sense of humor got in
>  > > the way back there.
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > Okay, first of all I didn't make my message clear enough. My brother and
>  > I both
>  > know how to change from a *graphical* login. Neither one of us do that
>  > though. We both boot up to the time-honored command line/prompt.
>  > So...how or what do you change from there to switch? Thanks!
>  >
>  > PS...or is it still easier to run DrakConf and set it to a graphical
>  > login, pick Gnome as default, then run DrakConf again, and tell it NOT
>  > to start X automagically? ;-)
>  >
>  > PSS I'd still like to know the other way, for curiosities sake... ;-)
>  >
>  > --
>
>  Yes, what you suggested works
>  I did that myself! 
>
>  Cheers
>  -- Al
>  __
>  Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com/
When you usually type "startx" type "init 5" instead and you will pull up the 
GUI login for that session.
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-michael-

Re: [newbie] Basic question re startup scripts

[=?x-unknown?q?Pe=F1a_Arellano_Fabian_Erasmo?=]

Hello Henryk,

I don't the answer either. But looking at the "From Power Up To
Bash Prompt" HOWTO would be helpful. Its WWW address is 

http://www.netspace.net.au/~gok/power2bash/

Let me know if this was useful for your porpouses. Greetings from
Mexico.

Fabian.

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Saturday 20 January 2001 08:33 am, Henryk M. Kowalski wrote:
> > Forgive the "less than newbie" nature of this question.  I'm sure
> > there's written info on this out there already, but I can't find
> > it...
> >
> > In Linux Mandrake, (specifically 6.x, 7.0 and 7.2): what is the basic
> > order of startup scripts that are executed when the system starts up
> > the first time, and on subsequent logins?  What directories and in
> > what order should I look to learn more about this process?
> > I figure that in order to really understand the nuts and bolts of my
> > system(s) I need to try to follow this process.
> 
>No, actually that's a very good question.  Unfortunately I can't 
> answer it, except to suggest looking at 'dmesg'.  That at least tells 
> you what gets going and the order.  I suspect the only definitive 
> answer would be from a Mandrake guru developer.  Invite one over for 
> the weekend ;)  Otherwise you'll need to play Dick Tracy and hunt thru 
> the various startup scripts and files scattered thruout the system 
> using 'dmesg 'as a guide.  Good luck, we'll be expecting a report ;>
> 

[newbie] NIC question

[abe]

I recently bought two new NIC cards for a firewall/router box.  THey are
Linksys LNE100TX's.  I swapped one of em into my existing box because
I've done that thign with two identical network cards in one box and I'm
not doing it again ;-)  I had no problems.  My old NIC used the tulip
driver and the new one does as well.

Here's the weird part.  The new installation detected the NIC and asked
me to pick a module from a list.  I tried every single module on that
list and none of them worked.  However as soon as the installation was
done I logged in as root and fired up linuxconf, assigned the tulip
driver the eth0 and all my IP information, restarted the network service
and all was well.  I'm sure you can see you I am confused.  Why
didn't/couldn't the install process make the tulip driver work?

As an aside, has anyone used the linux driver that comes with linksys
NIC's?  I'm thinking about giving it a try.  As an educational pursuit
;-)

Thanks for your input folks!


Abe

[newbie] Internet connection Sharing

[Julio Gutierrez]

Does anyone know if there is a possible way of sharing internet connection
to Windows boxes with mandrake? or possibly have a computer setup as a
router for those win boxes? if anyone knows how or knows where i can get
info about this please let me know your replies will be greatly
apprecciated.


Thanx


Julio

Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

[James Mellema]

Dan LaBine wrote:
> 
> Dave! If you install Linux on C:\ and Windows 98 is on it, you'll lose
> Windows98 ! If Linux re-writes your MBR (Master Boot record), there's an
> excellent chance you'll lose the partition info for all the other partitions.
> I think you need to exercise caution here. Are you trying to wipe out Windows
> in the process?? make sure you back up everything on ALL partitions!
> 
> dan laBine
> 
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> > I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
> > residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over part
> > of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive
> > letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them with
> > new drive letters?

I have installed L-M 7.2 on at least 5 dual boot computers, and have
never, ever lost anything from the WIN98 partition. Defrag it first then
go ahead with a custom install of linux. When you get to the
reapportioning segment of the installation program you need to 

1) Click on the "C:\" partition and resize it to something larger than
it contains (be liberal, WIN98 requires 10+% of the drivespace free for
its ungainly swap function).

2) create new partitions out of the free space, At least 2; / and swap.
( I think /boot, /, /home, & swap is better and adding a big /usr is
even better.)

3) format the new partitions in the next step (check for bad sectors)

4) proceed on with install

The other drive letters will not be altered. Windows assigns them at
boot up anyway, and since it is too ignorant to recognize ext2 file
system it wont even know they are there. Windows will only report on win
file systems the other partitions are invisible to it.
-- 
Jim
--
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--
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Re: [newbie] What's your favorite Plextor burner?

[Romanator]

Tom Brinkman wrote:
> 
> On Saturday 20 January 2001 06:50 am, Romanator wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > As I am on my way to the store this weekend, I thought I'd poll
> > people using Plextor.
> > What is your favorite Plextor model for burning cds?
> 
>   Best bang for the buck (T model has 4mb buffer) ~$160 retail,
> OEM is cheaper.
>  Model=PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W8432T, FwRev=1.07, SerialNo=
>   |
>   |
>  DMA modes: sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 *mdma2
> 
>It'll take 30¢ CD-r media and burn audio CD's that even the cheapest
> junk players can play. Like the Sony in my pic'up which has problems
> with store bought CD's.  It's also CloneCD capable.  I had to flash
> mine to 1.07, current drives should already have that bios version.
> --
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Thanks Tom

-- 
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High Energy Penguin Powered Email

Re: [newbie] usb

[Anthony Daniell]

Hi, I had the same problem. I think it has something to do with the IRQs and
the sound card. There is something about it on the sound blaster web site I
think. You could check out the mandrake web site also. I am looking for the
info and will post it asap.
Regards Anthony Daniell
Just visiting this planet
have a nice day.
Jesus is Love.
Anthony Daniell
- Original Message -
From: gauin_36 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:11 AM
Subject: [newbie] usb


: mandrake does not detect my usb ports during start up, where can I go to
mount
: (if I have to) my usb ports?? I'm using a soundblaster live card and  a
asus
: cusl2 motherboard.
:
: Sincerely,
: Gavin
:
:

Re: [newbie] Basic question re startup scripts

[Tom Brinkman]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 08:33 am, Henryk M. Kowalski wrote:
> Forgive the "less than newbie" nature of this question.  I'm sure
> there's written info on this out there already, but I can't find
> it...
>
> In Linux Mandrake, (specifically 6.x, 7.0 and 7.2): what is the basic
> order of startup scripts that are executed when the system starts up
> the first time, and on subsequent logins?  What directories and in
> what order should I look to learn more about this process?
> I figure that in order to really understand the nuts and bolts of my
> system(s) I need to try to follow this process.

   No, actually that's a very good question.  Unfortunately I can't 
answer it, except to suggest looking at 'dmesg'.  That at least tells 
you what gets going and the order.  I suspect the only definitive 
answer would be from a Mandrake guru developer.  Invite one over for 
the weekend ;)  Otherwise you'll need to play Dick Tracy and hunt thru 
the various startup scripts and files scattered thruout the system 
using 'dmesg 'as a guide.  Good luck, we'll be expecting a report ;>
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] Darn Upgrades

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 19 January 2001 11:54 pm, Jay wrote:
> I just tried to upgrade to 7.2 and I got a screwed up Linux system.

   The upgrade function with 7.2 is very useful for fixing an existing 
7.2 install, but it shouldn't even be an option for an upgrade from a 
prior version.  There's too big a shift from 7.1 to 7.2

>  No wonder I fear the downloading
> and installing of the 2.4 kernel.

   I believe I've tried every possible combo of source or prebuilt, 
from Mandrake or otherwise, with Reiser and supermount patches, or 
prepatched.  I've yet to get a 2.4 going with Reiserfs AND supermount, 
and I'm not willing to do without either one.  So I use 2.2.18 ;)
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE

[Romanator]

Thio Yu Jin wrote:
> 
> Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome?
> 
> Jin

Lately, I have been using Enlightenment. Are you an Apple user?

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE

[abe]

because it manages to be slow and clunky even on a t-bird 900 with 384
megs of ram?   ;-)  Just poking fun.  Ignore me.  Enlightenment is
pretty but I've never been satisfied with its performance.

The sawfish/gnome combination is really pretty good but not as good as
windowmaker is in my opinion.  I rely on KDE for my root account because
mandrake's configuration tools are best integrated into KDE and I want
to be a bit uncomfortable when I'm loged in as root to encourage myself
to do what I need to and get out ;-)



Abe


Thio Yu Jin wrote:
> 
> Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome?
> 
> Jin
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John MacCallum
> > Sent: 17 January 2001 13:59
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jesse C. Chang; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
> >
> >
> > On 1/16/01 11:09 PM, "Jesse C. Chang"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Philip David Morgan wrote:
> > >
> > >> The burning question of the night:
> > >>
> > >>> What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE?
> > >>
> > >> Neither, except for administrational needs. Otherwise, I'm
> > a WindowMaker
> > >> & Englightenment devotee
> > >
> > > Same here.  I use KDE when running as root.  Otherwise,
> > it's Enlightenment
> > > all the way.  I can't wait until E 0.17 and EFM are released.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jesse
> >
> > Yup, me too.  Enlightenment is fantastic.  I've also used
> > AfterStep and
> > WindowMaker and like them a lot, but it's all about Enlightenment.
> >
> > John
> >
> >

Re: [newbie]

[abe]

bad/old cdrom drive?  What is your hardware specifically?  We need an
exact and comprehensive list in order to help you.


Abe



Judith Crews wrote:
> 
> i have the "linux-mandrake 7.2 complete" package and it came with 4 discs
> (1-installation cd, 2-extension cd, 3-1st application cd, 4-2nd application
> cd). i have attempted to install this going on 20 times now and every time i
> have had the same problem. first, it never asks for any of the other discs.
> i don't know if this is normal or not, but it isn't a big problem because i
> can just install the other rpms myself. the main problem is that it has only
> actually installed one time (when i did the minimum installation). every
> other time i have tried installing it, it has crashed during installation.
> it is uninstalled right now and it will not install in any size
> installation. it always gets errors during the installation of the rpms. the
> last time i installed it, i typed "text mem=384 all expert" with a 23mb
> /boot, a 256mb swap, and a ~5gb /. and i got this error:
> 
> An error occurred
> error installing package list:
> kdelibs-sound-2.0-5mdk, cups-1.1.4-3mdk, clanlib-0.4.4-11mdk,
> guile-1.4-6mdk, umb-scheme-3.2-14mdk, Hermes-1.3.2-2mdk,
> gd-1.8.1-4mdk
> 
> ,and then it proceeded to unmount the filesystems and tell me it's safe to
> reboot, without installing linux.
> 
> i have also tried "linux mem=384M all expert" and made a 23mb /boot, 256mb
> swap, 1gb /home, 2gb /usr, 2gb /, 500mb /root, 150mb /tmp, 150mb /var, and i
> still got a similar message but with different packages listed and it asked
> me if i wanted to continue anyways. after i clicked yes it gave me another
> error with even more packages, and it goes that way for about 5 turns,
> listing new packages each time. then it unmounts and tells me i can reboot,
> without installing.
> 
> i'm trying to install this on a p3 600 dell with a 42x cd-rom, a 13gb hda
> with windows, a 45gb hdb with mp3s, and a 6gb hdc for mandrake. i have 384mb
> ram and an ati rage pro mach64 8mb video card. i don't know much more about
> the technical info of my computer that would be relevant. if you need more
> info, just let me know and i will find out if i can.
> 
> thanks for any help you can provide
> _
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: [newbie] What's your favorite Plextor burner?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 06:50 am, Romanator wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> As I am on my way to the store this weekend, I thought I'd poll
> people using Plextor.
> What is your favorite Plextor model for burning cds?

  Best bang for the buck (T model has 4mb buffer) ~$160 retail,
OEM is cheaper.
 Model=PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W8432T, FwRev=1.07, SerialNo=
  |
  |
 DMA modes: sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 *mdma2

   It'll take 30¢ CD-r media and burn audio CD's that even the cheapest 
junk players can play. Like the Sony in my pic'up which has problems 
with store bought CD's.  It's also CloneCD capable.  I had to flash 
mine to 1.07, current drives should already have that bios version.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

RE: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE

[Thio Yu Jin]

Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome?

Jin

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John MacCallum
> Sent: 17 January 2001 13:59
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jesse C. Chang; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
> 
> 
> On 1/16/01 11:09 PM, "Jesse C. Chang" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Philip David Morgan wrote:
> > 
> >> The burning question of the night:
> >> 
> >>> What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE?
> >> 
> >> Neither, except for administrational needs. Otherwise, I'm 
> a WindowMaker
> >> & Englightenment devotee
> > 
> > Same here.  I use KDE when running as root.  Otherwise, 
> it's Enlightenment
> > all the way.  I can't wait until E 0.17 and EFM are released.
> > 
> > 
> > Jesse
> 
> Yup, me too.  Enlightenment is fantastic.  I've also used 
> AfterStep and
> WindowMaker and like them a lot, but it's all about Enlightenment.
> 
> John
> 
> 

[newbie] w3m

[Meph Istopheles]

  Hey,

  Does anyone here use the text browser w3m?  I'd used it as my
primary browser in RedHat 6.0 & am using the 586 mdk rpm in
lm7.2.  I'd first installed the rpm to find that it appears to
install the japanese version, but setting the English after it's
installed doesn't fix what I get.

  There are numerous odd characters on most pages making some of
them almost unreadable.  These characters are mostly accented
foreign characters, & many -- but not all -- are where table
boarders go.  Even in the Options window, all the names of the
different settings are odd characters, but I'd figured out by
that window & the config file how to get most of the options I
want.

  Later, I'd removed the rpm & installed the latest tar which
allows some of the config on the command line -- like the
language setting.  That did the same.  Sadly, removing that &
installing a previous tar release does this too.  I'd even tried
different terminal fonts.  It's always the same.

  Gotta tell ya, life without java, java script & advertising
makes the Web a lot easier to deal with, but lynx (even the
latest version) leaves much to be desired that w3m does nicely.

  Any ideas?

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

Re: [newbie] Helix Gnome

[Anthony]

There isn't that much of a difference. If you don't have a fast connection, 
then I wouldn't recommend going through the trouble of downloading it. 

> Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between Helix Gnome (or
> whatever its called now) and the Gnome that is installed with ML 7.2?   Is
> it worth downloading and installing?
>

-- 
Anthony
http://binaryfusion.net
Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.

[newbie] Signal Test

[Romanator]

Sorry,

Just a test. For some reason my response is not getting through in a
normal fashion.

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
High Energy Penguin Powered Email

[newbie] usb

[gauin_36]

mandrake does not detect my usb ports during start up, where can I go to mount
(if I have to) my usb ports?? I'm using a soundblaster live card and  a asus
cusl2 motherboard.

Sincerely,
Gavin

RE: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[Bob Currey]

I think "dumbing down" the automatic install is needed if it will ever be
for the masses.

I think added selectivity in the "custom" install based on purpose would be
best for the techies that like to play to get at least the right packages
for starters.  Like my situation is a "Home Server/Desktop".  The server
option removes the GUI entirely.  The other options remove the server
capability.  The end result was a month of how-tos and attempts needed to
get things running.  Yes, I learned a lot, but most people would have given
up long before.

It just needs to be a bit more flexible without getting scary.  Those who
want to see scary can click "expert".  I would have tried "yes" for shadow
passwords, but figured they were trying to impress on me how little II
really knew, and figured my likelihood of sucess at approx. nil, given that.
I remember seeing a contest where C programmers took pride in making their
programs unreadable a few years back.  I'm not a glutton for punishment.

BobC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Mark Weaver
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:25 AM
To: Mandrake Newbie List
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux


All of the above and anything else that folks can think of to do with
Linux. For me there is no other OS worth my time or energy.

--
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> If everything "has a purpose" then what exactly *is* Linux's purpose? Is
it
> to run desktop workstations? Servers? Supercomputers? PDAs? Web pads?
> Wristwatches? Linux has been proven to run well on all these devices, and
it
> is continuing to push both downwards (towards embedded devices, etc.) and
> upwards (towards high-end servers, etc.), while consolidating its position
> in the middle (desktop computers, etc.).
>
> While I believe that Linux can be an excellent alternative to M$ Windos, I
> must admit that my greatest fear is that it will be "dumbed down" to cater
> for ordinary users. This fear, while not totally baseless, is unlikely to
> eventuate. There will always be serious computer users, who don't want a
> "dumb" OS. There are, and always will be, apps to cater for these people,
> especially since these are the people who code most Linux apps anyway. KDE
> too "dumb" for you? Use WindowMaker, or BlackBox, or XFce... Think the
> default Linux kernel is too bloated? Recompile it and include only what
you
> need. Linux is the most scalable OS ever to exist, and this scalability is
> increasing with time. Linux can be whatever you make it to be. Want it to
> run a Windos competitor? With GNOME and KDE it already is. Want it to work
at
> the enterprise level? Kernel 2.4 supports the high-end processors like the
> Itanium in multiprocessor configurations and up to 64GB of RAM. Want it to
> run a PDA? Compile a tiny kernel and run something like QT-embedded or
> GTK-embedded. And the most important point is that Linux excels in all
these
> scenarios. See my point?
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:35, Adrian Smith wrote:
> > this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here.   =)
> > i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at
saying
> > than I am.  probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom
isn't.
> >
> > but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much
about
> > converting windoze users?  should we make 18 wheelers with automatic
stick
> > shifts so that everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck?
> >
> > a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a
> > purpose. they are not the same purpose.
> >
> > a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
> > they are not the same purpose.
> >
> > windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
> > they are not the same purpose.
> >
> > use the right tool for the right job.
> >
> > if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept
using
> > windows? i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't
> > understand this. no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
> > name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every
person
> > on the planet.
> >
> > i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.
> >
> > i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now.   =)
> >
> >
> > Adrian Smith
> > 'de telepone dude
> > Telecom Dept.
> > x 7042
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >>> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 >>>
> >
> >   OK y'all  !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread
> > starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ;>  Actually I thought it was
> > a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the
> > perception of.
> >
> >The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb.  A curre

Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[Romanator]

Ahh.. Yes and no DLLs..


Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> All of the above and anything else that folks can think of to do with
> Linux. For me there is no other OS worth my time or energy.
> 
> --
> Mark
> 
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> 
> Linus Torvalds
> 
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> 
> > If everything "has a purpose" then what exactly *is* Linux's purpose? Is it
> > to run desktop workstations? Servers? Supercomputers? PDAs? Web pads?
> > Wristwatches? Linux has been proven to run well on all these devices, and it
> > is continuing to push both downwards (towards embedded devices, etc.) and
> > upwards (towards high-end servers, etc.), while consolidating its position
> > in the middle (desktop computers, etc.).
> >
> > While I believe that Linux can be an excellent alternative to M$ Windos, I
> > must admit that my greatest fear is that it will be "dumbed down" to cater
> > for ordinary users. This fear, while not totally baseless, is unlikely to
> > eventuate. There will always be serious computer users, who don't want a
> > "dumb" OS. There are, and always will be, apps to cater for these people,
> > especially since these are the people who code most Linux apps anyway. KDE
> > too "dumb" for you? Use WindowMaker, or BlackBox, or XFce... Think the
> > default Linux kernel is too bloated? Recompile it and include only what you
> > need. Linux is the most scalable OS ever to exist, and this scalability is
> > increasing with time. Linux can be whatever you make it to be. Want it to
> > run a Windos competitor? With GNOME and KDE it already is. Want it to work at
> > the enterprise level? Kernel 2.4 supports the high-end processors like the
> > Itanium in multiprocessor configurations and up to 64GB of RAM. Want it to
> > run a PDA? Compile a tiny kernel and run something like QT-embedded or
> > GTK-embedded. And the most important point is that Linux excels in all these
> > scenarios. See my point?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:35, Adrian Smith wrote:
> > > this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here.   =)
> > > i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at saying
> > > than I am.  probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom isn't.
> > >
> > > but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much about
> > > converting windoze users?  should we make 18 wheelers with automatic stick
> > > shifts so that everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck?
> > >
> > > a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a
> > > purpose. they are not the same purpose.
> > >
> > > a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
> > > they are not the same purpose.
> > >
> > > windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
> > > they are not the same purpose.
> > >
> > > use the right tool for the right job.
> > >
> > > if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using
> > > windows? i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't
> > > understand this. no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
> > > name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person
> > > on the planet.
> > >
> > > i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.
> > >
> > > i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now.   =)
> > >
> > >
> > > Adrian Smith
> > > 'de telepone dude
> > > Telecom Dept.
> > > x 7042
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > >>> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 >>>
> > >
> > >   OK y'all  !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread
> > > starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ;>  Actually I thought it was
> > > a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the
> > > perception of.
> > >
> > >The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb.  A current 'du
> > > -ch /' with my windoze drive umounted is ~4 gigs! ... and I've
> > > uninstalled a lot of the apps I don't use, and there's linux stuff on
> > > the windoze drive, not in that count.  I like it just the way it is,
> > > the installer that is.  What brandNewbie doesn't install several times
> > > before they 'settle in' ?  ...and for experienced users, it's easy,
> > > albeit time consuming, to install just what you want.  As much or
> > > little.  LM's installation let's YOU choose.  I believe there's nothin
> > > that needs changin.  I like the current trend in Mandrake's installs.
> > >
> > >As to the 'convert windoze users', and get "linux on everybody's
> > > desktop' vein this thread has denigrated to.  WHO CARES?  Seriously, be
> > > more concerned that Linux continues to attract the people that built it
> > > to begin with ... the people all over the world that contribute to this
> > > free, open source, volunteer effort.  Without them, Linux is dead.
> >
> >

RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt

[Bob Currey]

Yup, I did read that, and a bunch more...

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html

The how to, although having plenty of good info, does not address win/2000
or nt at all since the author had neither.

I talked to ops in linux-mandrake on irc and there are differences in the nt
boot as compared to win/2000.  I don't recall the details.

I don't think its anything for 98% of the newbie type people I know to mess
with.  Hopefully, the other 2% are wise enough to be doing it on a spare
disk drive.  I made the mistake of trying to multiboot using space I had
left free  once a few years ago and lost it all (my live partition, with all
my apps and code and financial stuff) in a goofed partitioning program or
via my error, I'll never know.

I gotta say, though, Linux newbies in particular, seem to rarely be real
newbie types like the one I deal with all day, everyday.

BobC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Meph Istopheles
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt



> At 20-01-2001 +0800, you wrote:
> > Can Linux Mandrake dual-boot with Windows 2000? And how to do
> > so?( i have heared that linux's bootloader cannot boot Winows
> > nt)

> FYI
> http://www.maximum.inux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/quad_boot.html

  With or without that link, & while you really ought to read the
multi-boot howto's at http://www.linuxdoc.org, it's not
difficult.

  The safest thing when setting up a dual- or multi-boot box with
any form of M$ (though I don't know if anyone's had the same
trouble with SCO) is to be sure the M$ product is installed
first.  The howtos will tell you how to do so otherwise, but it
is recommended M$ go first.

  From experience with dual-booting RedHat 6.0 & W9x, WNT4.0 or
W2k, as well as dual-booting LM7.2 & W2k, when you install the
Linux, it should (&, in most cases, will) find that you have
another OS installed & will allow you to either delete that
partition or to use other, unused space.  After partitioning the
unused space & installing, you'll get to the boot set-up.  Here
you'll tell the system what boot loader to use.

  The first time you boot, you'll likely not have access to your
M$ partition.  So, once booted & logged into your LM as root,
you'll have to do a couple of things.  If you'd chosen to use the
Grub (default) boot loader, you'll open DrakConf, go to the boot
tools icon & set that up with your M$ partition.  You can call it
anything you'd like, but will find it helpful later if you keep
it something simple, like win.

  After that, in a terminal or graphical editor, open /etc/fstab
& enter a line like this:

/dev/hda1   /winvfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0

  The /dev/hdaX is whatever drive (in this case, after installing
W2k first, likely hda1), the /win is the name you've given your
W2k partition, the rest is easy access technicalities you can
alter by reading the howto's to make more to your liking.

  After that, as root & at the prompt, type:

# mkdir /win

or whatever you've decided to call your W2k partition in
/etc/fstab, & reboot.  Of course, you don't actually ~have~ to
reboot, you can simply enter:

# mount /win

& you're set, but rebooting will let you see all the pretty icons
in Grub or the lovely green or red indicators in lilo:-).

  Meph

--
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

Re: [newbie] Ghost Mailspool

[Mark Weaver]

Oliver,

Hey man! that's great!! way to hang in there. Feels good, doesn't it?

Now...where'd I put that ballpeen hammer?...

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:18:33 -0600, Olly wrote:
>
> > Are you familiar with socket problems...what would normally be
> >a logical approach for repair of sticky sockets? or trouble shooting ?
> >
> > The man fetchmail says  "treat it as an unrecoverable error"
> >wellI must do some recovery...somehow...
> --
> Fri, 19 Jan 2001  15:38:29
>
> I got it Mark...heeheee
>  I am happy to report
> that the problem is cured and I can download mailand it
> saves
>
> Here is the fix:
>
> from a FaQ written by Eric S. Raymond, at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> R7. Fetchmail randomly dies with socket errors.
>
> Check the MTU value in your PPP interface reported by /sbin/ifconfig.
> If it's over 600,
> change it in your PPP options file. (/etc/ppp/options on my box). Here
> are option values
> that work:
>
>
>   mtu 552
>   mru 552
> -
>
>   I added the above options to my /etc /ppp/options file and it
> works nicely
>   I do not profess to even a slight  knowledge of the intricate
> relationship between ppp and the various mailprogram protocalsBut
> it seems to me that a mtu value in the ppp interface is in fact a ppp
> related problem.
>
> At any rate, the problem is cured and I am getting mail...hopefully
> this may help someone else, for this is not an easy problem for a
> beginner to research..I could not determine if the difficulty
> originated with worldnet server., my programs ,,or a combination of
> the two?
>   But now it is over...until the next problem 8-)
>
> Thank you for your help and patience.
>
> Olly P
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[Mark Weaver]

David,

In many ways Linux is nothing like what you're used to. And much more like
the mainframes you've programmed for all these years.

What protocols are you using to get the boxes to talk to the Linux box.
I'm assuming that you're using the Linux box as a file server, right?

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, David Thompson wrote:

> See comments embedded...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adrian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
>
>
> 
>
> > While I believe that Linux can be an excellent alternative to M$ Windos, I
> > must admit that my greatest fear is that it will be "dumbed down" to cater
> > for ordinary users. This fear, while not totally baseless, is unlikely to
> > eventuate. There will always be serious computer users, who don't want a
> > "dumb" OS. There are, and always will be, apps to cater for these people,
> > especially since these are the people who code most Linux apps anyway. KDE
> > too "dumb" for you? Use WindowMaker, or BlackBox, or XFce... Think the
> > default Linux kernel is too bloated? Recompile it and include only what
> you
> > need. Linux is the most scalable OS ever to exist, and this scalability is
> > increasing with time. Linux can be whatever you make it to be. Want it to
> > run a Windos competitor? With GNOME and KDE it already is. Want it to work
> at
> > the enterprise level? Kernel 2.4 supports the high-end processors like the
> > Itanium in multiprocessor configurations and up to 64GB of RAM. Want it to
> > run a PDA? Compile a tiny kernel and run something like QT-embedded or
> > GTK-embedded. And the most important point is that Linux excels in all
> these
> > scenarios. See my point?
>
> I guess I am the "dumb Windoze user" many of you refer to, because I am
> having one H*** of a time getting Linux to communicate with my Windows
> boxes.  I have tried 5 total re-installs, sometimes I'm able to ping the
> linux box from my Win2K box, then after tweaking using linuxcfg, it doesn't
> work.
> After 12 years in the industry as a Cobol programmer, and working with
> DOS and Windows from it's first release, I thought I had a little more
> knowledge the the average person.  I maintain that Windows runs the first
> time and any slightly trained monkey can use it from then on.  I value linux
> as a suberb server, and I'm going to continue in my attempts to get my home
> network up and running with linux, as opposed to using the Windows standard
> peer-to-peer networking, but as far as networking - this is not for the
> feeble-minded!!
> By the way, I am defending, nor blasting either product (Win & Linux).
> I feel they both have their place.
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[Mark Weaver]

All of the above and anything else that folks can think of to do with
Linux. For me there is no other OS worth my time or energy.

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> If everything "has a purpose" then what exactly *is* Linux's purpose? Is it
> to run desktop workstations? Servers? Supercomputers? PDAs? Web pads?
> Wristwatches? Linux has been proven to run well on all these devices, and it
> is continuing to push both downwards (towards embedded devices, etc.) and
> upwards (towards high-end servers, etc.), while consolidating its position
> in the middle (desktop computers, etc.).
>
> While I believe that Linux can be an excellent alternative to M$ Windos, I
> must admit that my greatest fear is that it will be "dumbed down" to cater
> for ordinary users. This fear, while not totally baseless, is unlikely to
> eventuate. There will always be serious computer users, who don't want a
> "dumb" OS. There are, and always will be, apps to cater for these people,
> especially since these are the people who code most Linux apps anyway. KDE
> too "dumb" for you? Use WindowMaker, or BlackBox, or XFce... Think the
> default Linux kernel is too bloated? Recompile it and include only what you
> need. Linux is the most scalable OS ever to exist, and this scalability is
> increasing with time. Linux can be whatever you make it to be. Want it to
> run a Windos competitor? With GNOME and KDE it already is. Want it to work at
> the enterprise level? Kernel 2.4 supports the high-end processors like the
> Itanium in multiprocessor configurations and up to 64GB of RAM. Want it to
> run a PDA? Compile a tiny kernel and run something like QT-embedded or
> GTK-embedded. And the most important point is that Linux excels in all these
> scenarios. See my point?
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:35, Adrian Smith wrote:
> > this will be a shock to you all, but i have an opinon here.   =)
> > i agree with Tom -- although i fully confess Tom is much better at saying
> > than I am.  probably because i am an obnoxious and arrogant and Tom isn't.
> >
> > but i can't figure this one out ether, why do you guys care so much about
> > converting windoze users?  should we make 18 wheelers with automatic stick
> > shifts so that everyone who drives a car can drive a semi-truck?
> >
> > a honda accord has a purpose.  a freightliner tractor/trailer rig has a
> > purpose. they are not the same purpose.
> >
> > a hunting rifle has a purpose.  a 50mm vulcan cannon has a purpose.
> > they are not the same purpose.
> >
> > windows has a purpose.  linux has a purpose.
> > they are not the same purpose.
> >
> > use the right tool for the right job.
> >
> > if i wanted linux to be like windows, why wouldn't i have just kept using
> > windows? i may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but i just don't
> > understand this. no product can be everything to everybody.  no product.
> > name any one *specific* product that fills every need held by every person
> > on the planet.
> >
> > i think the "must be like windows" concept is a bad thing.
> >
> > i'll try to stuff a sock in my mouth now.   =)
> >
> >
> > Adrian Smith
> > 'de telepone dude
> > Telecom Dept.
> > x 7042
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >>> Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9:29:15 PM 1/17/01 >>>
> >
> >   OK y'all  !!This marks the last time I'm gonna start a thread
> > starting with a news wire URL, well maybe ;>  Actually I thought it was
> > a business story that kind'a illustrated Linux's present state, and the
> > perception of.
> >
> >The first full install I did of Mandrake was ~500mb.  A current 'du
> > -ch /' with my windoze drive umounted is ~4 gigs! ... and I've
> > uninstalled a lot of the apps I don't use, and there's linux stuff on
> > the windoze drive, not in that count.  I like it just the way it is,
> > the installer that is.  What brandNewbie doesn't install several times
> > before they 'settle in' ?  ...and for experienced users, it's easy,
> > albeit time consuming, to install just what you want.  As much or
> > little.  LM's installation let's YOU choose.  I believe there's nothin
> > that needs changin.  I like the current trend in Mandrake's installs.
> >
> >As to the 'convert windoze users', and get "linux on everybody's
> > desktop' vein this thread has denigrated to.  WHO CARES?  Seriously, be
> > more concerned that Linux continues to attract the people that built it
> > to begin with ... the people all over the world that contribute to this
> > free, open source, volunteer effort.  Without them, Linux is dead.
>
>

Re: [newbie]

[Jon Doe]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> Judith; There are several possibilities that come to mind.
> 
> 1 - Your CD-Rom drive is defective?
> 2 - Your CD's are defective? ( This just happened to me on CD#3 - Mandrake
> is sending me a replacement)
> 3 - You have an existing partitionon the drive where Mandrake is to go?
> 
> I would lean towards Option #2 myself. Can you return the set to where you
> bought it for replacement?
> 
> Dan LaBine
> Registered Linux User #190712
Well I have had the same problem with my 7.2. I know its not defective CD's
though, the error is on different packages everytime and I have 3 different
sets of 7.2 CDs, the complete from walmart, two cd set from cheapbytes and the
deluxe 7 cd set from staples and I always get the same thing, some error
ocoured installing some package or other.
CD-Rom is not defective becuase 7.1 and Redhat will install with no errors.
Also tried with pre-exsiting partions without partitions, even unhooked and
replaced my LS-120 with a normal floppy think that might be the problem with
not being able to record cds in 7.2, but it still won't work.
I gave up, tired of setting up 7.1 again and again, hopefully the newer
versions of Mandrake install better.

RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt

[Meph Istopheles]

> At 20-01-2001 +0800, you wrote:
> > Can Linux Mandrake dual-boot with Windows 2000? And how to do
> > so?( i have heared that linux's bootloader cannot boot Winows
> > nt)

> FYI
> http://www.maximum.inux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/quad_boot.html

  With or without that link, & while you really ought to read the
multi-boot howto's at http://www.linuxdoc.org, it's not
difficult.

  The safest thing when setting up a dual- or multi-boot box with
any form of M$ (though I don't know if anyone's had the same
trouble with SCO) is to be sure the M$ product is installed
first.  The howtos will tell you how to do so otherwise, but it
is recommended M$ go first.

  From experience with dual-booting RedHat 6.0 & W9x, WNT4.0 or
W2k, as well as dual-booting LM7.2 & W2k, when you install the
Linux, it should (&, in most cases, will) find that you have
another OS installed & will allow you to either delete that
partition or to use other, unused space.  After partitioning the
unused space & installing, you'll get to the boot set-up.  Here
you'll tell the system what boot loader to use.

  The first time you boot, you'll likely not have access to your
M$ partition.  So, once booted & logged into your LM as root,
you'll have to do a couple of things.  If you'd chosen to use the
Grub (default) boot loader, you'll open DrakConf, go to the boot
tools icon & set that up with your M$ partition.  You can call it
anything you'd like, but will find it helpful later if you keep
it something simple, like win.

  After that, in a terminal or graphical editor, open /etc/fstab
& enter a line like this:

/dev/hda1   /winvfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0

  The /dev/hdaX is whatever drive (in this case, after installing
W2k first, likely hda1), the /win is the name you've given your
W2k partition, the rest is easy access technicalities you can
alter by reading the howto's to make more to your liking.

  After that, as root & at the prompt, type:

# mkdir /win

or whatever you've decided to call your W2k partition in
/etc/fstab, & reboot.  Of course, you don't actually ~have~ to
reboot, you can simply enter:

# mount /win

& you're set, but rebooting will let you see all the pretty icons
in Grub or the lovely green or red indicators in lilo:-).

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

[newbie] Basic question re startup scripts

[Henryk M. Kowalski]

Forgive the "less than newbie" nature of this question.  I'm sure there's
written info on this out there already, but I can't find it...  

In Linux Mandrake, (specifically 6.x, 7.0 and 7.2): what is the basic order of
startup scripts that are executed when the system starts up the first time, and
on subsequent logins?  What directories and in what order should I look to learn
more about this process?
I figure that in order to really understand the nuts and bolts of my system(s)
I need to try to follow this process.

Thank you.

RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt

[Bob Currey]

Your link is hosed

http://www.maximumlinux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/quad_boot.html

I read enough of it to see that its for Red Hat, not Mandrake, uses a custom
install, doesn't use LILO, and uses BeOS bootman to boot.  If I attempted
it, I'd fail, I think...

BobC
just a newbie with Linux, but older and wiser, otherwise :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of L. H. LOO
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt


At 20-01-2001 +0800, you wrote:
>Can Linux Mandrake dual-boot with Windows 2000? And how to do so?( i have
>heared that linux's bootloader cannot boot Winows nt)
FYI
http://www.maximum.inux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/quad_boot.html

[newbie] Printing problem, no header margin

[Martin Bates]

I have mandrake installed, and print to an HP2100M. If
I do a test page, this is centered correctly. If I
print a postscript file written by dvips, this has no
top border. I have similar problems with psnup, etc.

Any suggestions as to how to center correctly ?

The paper type is set up via printtool.

Martin Bates



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Re: [newbie] Two little problems

[John Rye]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:01:15 +0800, L. H. LOO said:

>   At 19-01-2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Question 2. My computer came with a winmodem installed but I have an
>>external USR modem that I connected to one of the ports on the back (COMM1).
>>The problem is that ML7.2 does not know there is a modem connected (checked
>>Hardrake and there is nothing  there, no modem is seen). How do I make sure
>>the ML knows  there is a modem attached?
>
>Suggest take out the winmodem,  in Windows configure the external USR on 
>COM1 (not COMM1); reboot into your Linux, link /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS0 - 
>that is Big S and zero. If you have kppp in your Linux Box, use it to 
>connect to your ISP. HTH, if you need further info mail me off the list.

 Just a couple of small but possibly very important notes to this thread.

 If you have a Winmodem AND an External, I would only use the external.
 That way you you recover an IRQ line for both opsys(s)(ii) [ what IS the
 plural ]

 IF you are using a PS/2 mouse, be aware that it may also get assigned
 to /dev/ttyS0 (Com1:), this WILL result in an IRQ conflict.

 I would suggest that in Windows you set your external modem up on
 Com2: rather than Com1: for the same reason as above.

 Then in Kppp you can assign your modem to /dev/ttyS1 (= Com2:). 


 Cheers

 John

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Re: [newbie] Darn Upgrades

[Romanator]

Jay wrote:
> 
> I just tried to upgrade to 7.2 and I got a screwed up Linux system.
> Thank GOD I have my /home partition separate from my / partition.  I am
> just going to do a clean install of Linux-Mandrake 7.2.  Anybody else
> have that problem upgrading?  This has happened before when I tried to
> upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1.  No wonder I fear the downloading and
> installing of the 2.4 kernel.
> --
> Jay
> ~May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend~
> http://www.mrsnooky.com

Hi Jay,

No problems that I couldn't overcome. But, if you want to experiment
with the 2.4 kernel, ensure that you have a Linux Boot Disk.

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293

Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[Romanator]

Vic wrote:
> 
> I don't know, I'm actually BritishAmerican,
> so one would have to address it as
> 'Hello fellow BritishAmericans' but
> then to accomodate everyone on the
> list that would be a very lohhhng list
> of countries and nationalities, I just
> say hello list or something, even though
> it is in France, I kind of thought it
> to be an international list.
> 
> I saw the Spanish, French, Italian
> and English lists though.
> 
> Beats me.
> 
> On Friday 19 January 2001 08:54 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > Can someone please tell me why everyone assumes everyone else on this list
> > is American? Not even Mandrakesoft is American, in fact it's French!
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:08, mike keener wrote:
> > > hello america::
> > > when attempting to download and install drakxtools 1.1.5-33 from any
> > > mirror site i get a "no signature"..
> > > has anyone else had the same problem with this RPM
> > >
> > >regards
> > >mike keener-wb6iik

Welcome...

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293

[newbie] What's your favorite Plextor burner?

[Romanator]

Hi everybody,

As I am on my way to the store this weekend, I thought I'd poll people
using Plextor.
What is your favorite Plextor model for burning cds?

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293

Re: [newbie] Can't change from 12 to 24 hr time

[Romanator]

Vic wrote:
> 
> Thank you thank you thank you!!
> 
> :)))
> 
> Excellent
> 
> On Friday 19 January 2001 09:07 am, you wrote:
> > Here ya go.
> >
> > http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jandr/12hour.htm
> >
> > -s
> >
> > On Friday 19 January 2001 08:31 pm, you wrote:
> > > I do not see where to click on
> > > the clock or otherwise.
> > >
> > > Thanks

Hi Vic,

If for some reason you reboot and your clock rolls back several hours,
log in as root. 
A) From the command line,  type in:

date --set="Jan 20 12:00:00"
Press the 

b) Right click on the clock and select Date & Time format

C) Click on the Locale tab. Change the "Country" selection from "Default
C" to "United States of America (us)", click Apply (only). Close and
restart KDE.

Note:
D) There seems to be a problem with the OK button. If you click on the
OK button and reboot your computer, your time setting may reset back
again to its original state. 

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293

Re: [newbie] Gnome/v7.2 question.

[Altoine Barker]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Dennis Myers wrote:
> > 
> > When it boots to the login box that wants either the user + password or
> > root + password there is a button that has kde on it
> > click on that button and all of the installed choices including gnome
> > will drop down. Click gnome and pull up a
> > mushroom. Oh, then click "go"  sorry my strange sense of humor got in
> > the way back there.
> 
> 
> 
> Okay, first of all I didn't make my message clear enough. My brother and I 
> both
> know how to change from a *graphical* login. Neither one of us do that though.
> We both boot up to the time-honored command line/prompt. So...how or what do
> you change from there to switch? Thanks!
> 
> PS...or is it still easier to run DrakConf and set it to a graphical login,
> pick Gnome as default, then run DrakConf again, and tell it NOT to start X
> automagically? ;-)
> 
> PSS I'd still like to know the other way, for curiosities sake... ;-)
> 
> -- 
> 

Yes, what you suggested works
I did that myself! 

Cheers
-- Al
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Re: [newbie] ssh/vnc not working, this is getting silly

[Altoine Barker]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> After failing to get ssh working I then tried to set vnc working.  I used 
> to use redhat and this worked easily.  Before I ditch Mandrake and go back 
> to redhat (which I don't want to do as I have installed oracle on it and 
> like Mandrake) has anyone got any ideas.  Maybe someone could tell me how 
> to get telnet working.
> 
> Regards,
> Ben


Perhaps, Ben you need to check your "Startup Services" and see if the sshd (ssh server 
daemon) is started at bootup. To check and see if it is running nonw. Type 

netstat -l

or 

ps -A | grep sshd

that is a pipe "|" in between ps -A and grep and not the letter "L" or "I" (eye)

Are you trying to telnet to your computer or from your computer?
If it is "to your computer", you need to install and have running Wu-FTP as that is a 
FTP server. If your problem is you are trying to telnet "from your computer", then you 
need to hit up http://www.rpmfind.net and type in "telnet" in the search path and 
download the telnet package.

Back to the VNC and SSH problem, if you meet all the criteria I had listed at the 
beginning of my message, then I need to know how you are trying to establish a SSH and 
VNC connection. For instance, are you trying to start a secure session from another 
linux/unix-flavor machine or a windoze-flavor environment? If winoze, what program? I 
recommend telneat. Now as for VNC...
to start your server in linux/unix-flavor type 

vncserver :1

to test it in linux locally type

vncviewer localhost:1

now to kill the server (stop it that is) type

vncserver -kill :1

That is all I can tell you for now. I hope that was enough to make you groovy 

Cheers
-- Al



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[newbie] win-unix lan not working any more ;(

[Quaylar]

hi again.

it seems that something is going really wrong with my little win-unix 
lan.yesterday it worked.today i powered up and it didnt work any more.
i issued a ifdown eth0 and then a ifup eth0 and got :

SIOCADDRT: network unreachable

like before i cant ping either of the machines, and on the nic of my 
windows machine now a little green light is shining permanently.i didnt 
notice that before, does this indicate a failure in the init of the nic ?...
windows device manager shows that the nic is working properly.
argh...this is really annoying.

would be happy with any advice u can give on this mystery..

--quay

--
-Quaylar-
Icq# 30932448
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie]

[Dan LaBine]

Judith; There are several possibilities that come to mind.

1 - Your CD-Rom drive is defective?
2 - Your CD's are defective? ( This just happened to me on CD#3 - Mandrake
is sending me a replacement)
3 - You have an existing partitionon the drive where Mandrake is to go?

I would lean towards Option #2 myself. Can you return the set to where you
bought it for replacement?

Dan LaBine
Registered Linux User #190712

- Original Message -
From: "Judith Crews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 6:19 AM
Subject: [newbie]


> i have the "linux-mandrake 7.2 complete" package and it came with 4 discs
> (1-installation cd, 2-extension cd, 3-1st application cd, 4-2nd
application
> cd). i have attempted to install this going on 20 times now and every time
i
> have had the same problem. first, it never asks for any of the other
discs.
> i don't know if this is normal or not, but it isn't a big problem because
i
> can just install the other rpms myself. the main problem is that it has
only
> actually installed one time (when i did the minimum installation). every
> other time i have tried installing it, it has crashed during installation.
> it is uninstalled right now and it will not install in any size
> installation. it always gets errors during the installation of the rpms.
the
> last time i installed it, i typed "text mem=384 all expert" with a 23mb
> /boot, a 256mb swap, and a ~5gb /. and i got this error:
>
> An error occurred
> error installing package list:
> kdelibs-sound-2.0-5mdk, cups-1.1.4-3mdk, clanlib-0.4.4-11mdk,
> guile-1.4-6mdk, umb-scheme-3.2-14mdk, Hermes-1.3.2-2mdk,
> gd-1.8.1-4mdk
>
> ,and then it proceeded to unmount the filesystems and tell me it's safe to
> reboot, without installing linux.
>
> i have also tried "linux mem=384M all expert" and made a 23mb /boot, 256mb
> swap, 1gb /home, 2gb /usr, 2gb /, 500mb /root, 150mb /tmp, 150mb /var, and
i
> still got a similar message but with different packages listed and it
asked
> me if i wanted to continue anyways. after i clicked yes it gave me another
> error with even more packages, and it goes that way for about 5 turns,
> listing new packages each time. then it unmounts and tells me i can
reboot,
> without installing.
>
> i'm trying to install this on a p3 600 dell with a 42x cd-rom, a 13gb hda
> with windows, a 45gb hdb with mp3s, and a 6gb hdc for mandrake. i have
384mb
> ram and an ati rage pro mach64 8mb video card. i don't know much more
about
> the technical info of my computer that would be relevant. if you need more
> info, just let me know and i will find out if i can.
>
> thanks for any help you can provide
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