RE: [newbie] Problem with deleting files...

[Skye Louey]

If you are not the owner of the file/or in the group the file belongs to you
will not be allowed to change it.  Log in as an authorized user(or root) and
you should be able to delete the file.

Another thing you could try is rm -f  to "force" removal.

=)

SkYE
 ? ?? ? 
"Zankoku na tenshi no youni."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Blomquist, Niklas
Sent: 2001?1?22? 15:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: [newbie] Problem with deleting files...

Í have tried to do that with chmod, but it says the same thing.

How do I change the permission?

/Niklas

> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Mike & Tracy Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 22 januari 2001 07:31
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: Re: [newbie] Problem with deleting files...
>
>
> Blomquist, Niklas wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I have a realy stupid problem.
> >
> > I have a drive that with vfat on, and I can't delete some
> files from it. The
> > files have been copied from CD-rom and have read only and
> system. I get the
> > error messages permission denied.
> >
> > How do I change this?
> >
> > /Niklas
>
>
> If you copied the files from a cdrom, you've also copied
> their read-only
> permissions.  You need to change permissions on the files
> before you can
> delete them.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

SV: [newbie] Problem with deleting files...

[Blomquist, Niklas]

Í have tried to do that with chmod, but it says the same thing.

How do I change the permission?

/Niklas

> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Mike & Tracy Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 22 januari 2001 07:31
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: Re: [newbie] Problem with deleting files...
> 
> 
> Blomquist, Niklas wrote:
> 
> > All,
> > 
> > I have a realy stupid problem.
> > 
> > I have a drive that with vfat on, and I can't delete some 
> files from it. The
> > files have been copied from CD-rom and have read only and 
> system. I get the
> > error messages permission denied.
> > 
> > How do I change this?
> > 
> > /Niklas
> 
> 
> If you copied the files from a cdrom, you've also copied 
> their read-only 
> permissions.  You need to change permissions on the files 
> before you can 
> delete them.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Re: I want Micro-EMACS

[Len Lawrence]

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, civileme wrote:

> Ummm, do you realize that the install of 7.2 you made probably has both emacs 
> and xemacs?  These run like Micro-EMACS (same commands plus some features) 
> without a new compile.

The 7.2 Complete distribution does not appear to have emacs.  I had to
install xemacs, which is fortunately able to use most of my old
customization file (.emacs), although there are one or two keys which can
no longer be used.

> 
> The one link I found for a port of Micro-EMACS to linux _says_ it is GPL, but 
> the original text from the author suggests it is shareware.
> 
> It compiles easily, it runs nicely (in a terminal), and it supports a nice 
> subset of emacs commands.  The port does use French messages.  It runs from 
> whatever directory you put the binary into after compiling.  It appears to 
> demand that any files edited BE in that directory, because it doesn't appear 
> to support directory paths.
> 
> ftp.ac-grenoble.fr/ge/Office/microemacs-5.03.tgz
> 
> is the link I used.  I don't think I will use MicroEMACS unless I have a very 
> limited machine.  I would dearly miss the color-coding of c, bash, perl, and 
> python source.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> 

-- 
Len Lawrence[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] Problem with deleting files...

[Mike & Tracy Holt]

Blomquist, Niklas wrote:

> All,
> 
> I have a realy stupid problem.
> 
> I have a drive that with vfat on, and I can't delete some files from it. The
> files have been copied from CD-rom and have read only and system. I get the
> error messages permission denied.
> 
> How do I change this?
> 
> /Niklas


If you copied the files from a cdrom, you've also copied their read-only 
permissions.  You need to change permissions on the files before you can 
delete them.

Mike

Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

[David & Julie Matheson]

> Chris Hall wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>I recently had to reinstall Winblows and it wiped out Grub. How can
> I get back into linux and set it back up? Thanks!

Hi Chris
Simply use your Linux boot Disk you do have one don't u??
then set up grub again and all should be fine

[newbie] Problem with deleting files...

[Blomquist, Niklas]

All,

I have a realy stupid problem.

I have a drive that with vfat on, and I can't delete some files from it. The
files have been copied from CD-rom and have read only and system. I get the
error messages permission denied.

How do I change this?

/Niklas

> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Jose M. Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 22 januari 2001 06:46
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Kopia: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
> 
> 
> 
> Decide if your machines will be connected to the internet 
> DIRECTLY, or thru
> a private LAN.
> 
> Direct connections will mean that you'll have to register 
> your DOMAIN name
> and IP addresses with the internic.
> 
> There will probably be an associated cost with your ISP to 
> have multiple
> connections.
> 
> As a result, most home users don't do this. Rather they 
> resort to having
> only one internet connected machine. Masq provides internet connection
> sharing in Linux. Masq'd machines are not really "ON" the 
> internet, though
> they behave like they are.
> 
> If this machine will have two interface cards, one to the 
> local lan, and one
> to the internet, you do the following.
> 
> FIRST install the one interface card into your system.
> 
> Set up Linux and give your machine an arbitrary name and domain name.
> 
> Say: "mylinuxbox.joesplace.com"
> 
> By default then, "mylinuxbox" becomes the hostname and "joesplace.com"
> becomes the domain name for your eth0 interface.
> 
> Since this interface is never "seen" on the internet, this 
> does not cause
> any problems.
> 
> Configure your other machines on the protected private lan to 
> be members of
> the "joesplace.com" domain.
> 
> You finish configuring your machine, and Linux is happy.
> 
> Then comes the time to set up your DSL/CABLE modem.
> 
> Pop in the other Ethernet card, connect the DSL/CABLE modem 
> to it (via a hub
> or xcross cable) and give it the hostname of "bcurry" and domain of
> "mediaone.net".
> 
> Then enable dhcp on the eth1 interface.
> 
> Though bcurry.mediaone.net might be wrong, dhcp will adjust the host &
> domain name correctly when the connection is first started.
> 
> Thus once you connect to the internet, you may find that your 
> hostname will
> change!
> 
> You may want/need to fix things so this does not happen, or 
> use what the ISP
> "gives" you.
> 
> If you are going to run an HTTP, FTP or other internet SERVER 
> you'll need to
> register your domain with the internic. You'll also need to 
> get your ISP to
> "FIX" your IP so it doesn't change. You then register your IP with the
> internic (also get your ISP to add an entry into their DNS...).
> 
> Each of these will cost a few dollars.
> 
> If you are not going to run these services, then you can 
> utilize any domain
> name you want...
> 
> ...esp. if you will be using dhcp to grab an IP from the ISP.
> 
> 
> Linux MUST have a host & domain name of some sort to prevent 
> those long
> pauses. Even then you'll still see one or two during startup, 
> as services
> start up which look for a DNS...
> 
> -JMS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 5:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
> 
> 
> As I'm reading this, the install's host name prompt screen 
> sits in front of
> me.  Because of my setup, I am always lost in the how-tos as 
> far as host
> name is concerned.  At the moment, I'm loading a new server.  
> For the time
> being, it will have eth0 connected to my home net, getting an 
> IP address via
> the DHCP server on my other Linux box which is currently the 
> server.  The
> 2nd NIC at eth1 is not connected at present, and won't be used till I
> replace the old server with this new one, and then eth1 will 
> run a DHCP
> server for the home LAN.
> 
> The fact that I don't have a Domain has caused me tremendous 
> grief, in that
> setting up Apache, Samba, a DNS server, the FTP server, the 
> Proxy server,
> etc, all expect one, when you read the how-tos.  For someone 
> not a Linux
> guru, it makes the stuff incomprehensible, as nothing fits.  For that
> reason, I ended up giving up at least for the time being on 
> installing them
> on my server (both the old one and new one), but would be 
> very grateful if
> someone could explain what I'm supposed to fill in when they 
> want you to put
> in your domain name in these setups.  I spent many hours 
> reading and never
> understood how to set them up as a result.  I imagine anyone 
> else with a
> home LAN that doesn't have a domain name (and this would be 
> normal, I'd
> expect) would be having the same trouble.
> 
> 

RE: Cable modemRE: [newbie] Internet connection Sharing

[Jose M. Sanchez]

It works far better and easier in Linux than it does in NT...

If you are new to this your best bet would be to use Mandrake 7.2 which
features a configuration module that handles all the work for you.

Even uni-directional cable modems work, and I've run uni-directional with a
single LAN connected ethernet adapter as well. The latter is unusual.

-JMS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julio Gutierrez
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cable modemRE: [newbie] Internet connection Sharing
Importance: High


can this be done with cable modem as well?
because I can do it on Win 2k server but I don't know if i'll work with
linux.

Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose M. Sanchez
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 8:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Internet connection Sharing



What you want is called MASQ.

Linux does this very well.

Mandrake 7.2 has a little utility to do all the set up work for you.

You merely get your internet connection in Linux running properly then
enable Internet Connection Sharing...

Reboot your windows machines and you are done!

-JMS
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[

Re: [newbie]

[Romanator]

Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> On Monday 25 December 2000 15:04, you wrote:
> > > Are they handing out brain tumors along with subscriptions these days?
> > > You get off the list the same way you get on. Read the directions that
> > > are sent when you subscribe. There are explicit instructions there on
> > > just how to accomplish this, OR you can go to the Mandrake site and unsub
> > > there rite at the site.
> > > --
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being
> > > worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> > >
> > > Linus Torvalds
> >
> > Brain tumors 
> 
> I know...I was a little harsh, but GEez!, come on it's not rocket science or
> brain surgery. There's a huge message that comes with the subscription notice
> and there are very plain and easy to understand instructions. Remember, this
> is Linux. If you've got enough on the ball to install the darn thing, then
> surely you can read the directions on how to get off the mailing list, right?
> 
> I really gotta stop eating those expresso beans!
> --
> Mark
> 
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> 
> Linus Torvalds

I know. In the beginning, it took more time to look for the newsgroup
and install the software.
Keep eating those beans, their good for you.

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293

RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Decide if your machines will be connected to the internet DIRECTLY, or thru
a private LAN.

Direct connections will mean that you'll have to register your DOMAIN name
and IP addresses with the internic.

There will probably be an associated cost with your ISP to have multiple
connections.

As a result, most home users don't do this. Rather they resort to having
only one internet connected machine. Masq provides internet connection
sharing in Linux. Masq'd machines are not really "ON" the internet, though
they behave like they are.

If this machine will have two interface cards, one to the local lan, and one
to the internet, you do the following.

FIRST install the one interface card into your system.

Set up Linux and give your machine an arbitrary name and domain name.

Say: "mylinuxbox.joesplace.com"

By default then, "mylinuxbox" becomes the hostname and "joesplace.com"
becomes the domain name for your eth0 interface.

Since this interface is never "seen" on the internet, this does not cause
any problems.

Configure your other machines on the protected private lan to be members of
the "joesplace.com" domain.

You finish configuring your machine, and Linux is happy.

Then comes the time to set up your DSL/CABLE modem.

Pop in the other Ethernet card, connect the DSL/CABLE modem to it (via a hub
or xcross cable) and give it the hostname of "bcurry" and domain of
"mediaone.net".

Then enable dhcp on the eth1 interface.

Though bcurry.mediaone.net might be wrong, dhcp will adjust the host &
domain name correctly when the connection is first started.

Thus once you connect to the internet, you may find that your hostname will
change!

You may want/need to fix things so this does not happen, or use what the ISP
"gives" you.

If you are going to run an HTTP, FTP or other internet SERVER you'll need to
register your domain with the internic. You'll also need to get your ISP to
"FIX" your IP so it doesn't change. You then register your IP with the
internic (also get your ISP to add an entry into their DNS...).

Each of these will cost a few dollars.

If you are not going to run these services, then you can utilize any domain
name you want...

...esp. if you will be using dhcp to grab an IP from the ISP.


Linux MUST have a host & domain name of some sort to prevent those long
pauses. Even then you'll still see one or two during startup, as services
start up which look for a DNS...

-JMS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 5:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow


As I'm reading this, the install's host name prompt screen sits in front of
me.  Because of my setup, I am always lost in the how-tos as far as host
name is concerned.  At the moment, I'm loading a new server.  For the time
being, it will have eth0 connected to my home net, getting an IP address via
the DHCP server on my other Linux box which is currently the server.  The
2nd NIC at eth1 is not connected at present, and won't be used till I
replace the old server with this new one, and then eth1 will run a DHCP
server for the home LAN.

The fact that I don't have a Domain has caused me tremendous grief, in that
setting up Apache, Samba, a DNS server, the FTP server, the Proxy server,
etc, all expect one, when you read the how-tos.  For someone not a Linux
guru, it makes the stuff incomprehensible, as nothing fits.  For that
reason, I ended up giving up at least for the time being on installing them
on my server (both the old one and new one), but would be very grateful if
someone could explain what I'm supposed to fill in when they want you to put
in your domain name in these setups.  I spent many hours reading and never
understood how to set them up as a result.  I imagine anyone else with a
home LAN that doesn't have a domain name (and this would be normal, I'd
expect) would be having the same trouble.

[newbie] Windows 2000

[Blomquist, Niklas]

All,

I have installed MD 7.2 for a couple of days ago, and dam, I like it!

But on my work do I need to run Office 2000. Is there any way to run Office
2000 under Linux (exept from VMWare)?

Is there any Windows-emulator that works?

/N

> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 18 januari 2001 10:16
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 17 January 2001 17:36, you wrote:
> > Duplicate entry 'append' near line 17 in file /etc/lilo.conf
> >
> >
> > what this mean?
> >
> > my lilo.conf
> >
> >
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > vga=normal
> > default=linux
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > message=/boot/message
> > other=/dev/fd0
> > label=floppy
> > unsafe
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hda5
> > initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> > append="65532k"
> > append="hdd=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> 
> It means that you cannot have two appends
> 
> make it 
> 
> append="hdd=ide-scsi mem=64M"
> 
> Civileme
> 

[newbie] Nist -DVD software for linux

[abe]

Has anyone used nist to playback DVD's?  I keep reading the
docum,entation I can find but it isn't very clear how it is supposed to
work.  It appears that it relies on a program called mpeg2player but I
can't find anyprogram called that.  Does the readme mean to point it at
AN mpeg2player?  Does the DVD have to be mounted?  The read me does not
answer any of these questions.

Any feed back will be greatly appreciated.


Abe

Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[abe]

haven't had any of those, yet.  Hopefully I won't any time soon either
;-)


Meph Istopheles wrote:
> 
> > The average income in very small towns like trout creek montana
> > (9 hours from seattle at 90mph)
> 
>   You're neglection the variable time involved on the shoulder of
> the 90 while the trooper writes you up & lectures you on
> speeding;-).
> 
>   Meph
> 
> --
>   "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
>   -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

Re: [newbie] RPM error

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:26, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Sunday 21 January 2001 07:47 am, David wrote:
> > I downloaded the mandrake kernel4.0 but when i tried to install it i
> > got "only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this
> > version of RPM" as an error... have i downloaded the wrong version or
> > is something else wrong ??
>
> What version of rpm?rpm -qa | grep -i rpm
> current is  rpm-3.0.5-27mdk, you have an older version ?
>
> What kernel rpm and where did you get it from?

This error only appears if the RPM you are trying to install has been made 
with RPM 4 (as used in Red Hat 7 and Cooker), which is incompatible with the 
version of RPM used in Mandrake 7.2 (RPM 3). In short, don't use RPMs that 
give this error.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] Problem with Gnome

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Have you installed the xscreensaver package? It is needed to allow screen 
locking and screensavers.


On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:03, Blomquist, Niklas wrote:
> I have som problem with Gnome, I can't lock the screen or use anu
> screensavers.
>
> I'm running MD 7.2, Any suggestion?
>
> /Niklas

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] gnome-sawfish

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Since I installed Mandrake 7.2, Sawfish-GNOME has taken a while to load up. 
Sometimes this delay is very short, sometimes it takes several minutes. Most 
often it takes about a minute. Other environments (like KDE) don't have this 
problem. Once loaded, however, I have no problems. I have filed a bug report 
with Mandrakesoft about this, and they appear to be looking into it. I have 
since switched to Ximian GNOME, and now the problem is less pronounced (the 
startup pauses for about 30 secs rather than several minutes and this time 
does not fluctuate).


On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:42, Michael Keener wrote:
> hello worldly beings!!!
>
> has anyone experienced problems with gome-sawfish?
> by problems I mean when logging in and choosing
> sawfish, it takes anywhere from 1-3 minutes to load
> and most of the time I can't log off, I have to use
> ctl-alt-bkspace. all of the other window managers
> work great.any ideas
>
>regards
>mike

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] Elightenment as default

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:54, Romanator wrote:
> Tony Finnis wrote:
> > Romator wrote:
> > > How did it Enlightenment set itself as the default graphical virtual
> > > desktop? I used to have KDE as my default autoboot for user. I would
> > > like to pick and choose my default. I can't reset it back to KDE. There
> > > must be some sort of .conf file for this? And, I'm not too crazy about
> > > reinstalling the entire Linux OS.
> >
> > Jesse replied:
> > >Are you using the graphical login manager?  If not, try editing
> > > .xsession in your home directory to /usr/bin/kde or wherever it is. 
> > > You might have to edit that file as root, I'm not sure.
> >
> > Had exact same problem.
> > Corrected it as Jesse stated above.
> > In .xsession in home directory, remove line
> > exec /usr/bin/elightenment
> > and replace with
> > exec /usr/bin/startkde
> >
> > This fixed it for me
> >
> > Tony F
>
> Yep. I shelled out to console, and typed in: pico .Xclients
> Then, I edited the following line from: exec /usr/bin/enlightenment
> to   /usr/bin/kde
> Now, it works.
>
> I originally just added:  exec startkde
> By that only took me to the KDE GUI startup.
>
> Now, if I can work out how to "Logout->Shutdown and Restart" directly
> from user rather than always go to the KDE GUI prompt. And, how about
> that nasty flickering when logging out of user to the KDE prompt. Have
> you experienced this?
>
> Thanks go to Sridhar, Jesse and Tony F.

Shutting down and restarting are very powerful tools, since they involve the 
killing of all processes. Hence, they require root privileges. You *could* 
give yourself the power to shutdown/reboot from your user account, but that 
would be very dangerous from a security perspective, since you would be in 
effect logged in as root.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] all about su

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

I tried doing as you did: upgrading glibc via MandrakeUpdate (not Cooker) and 
trying to run su. I have no problems. It looks like the cause of your su 
troubles could be something else. Just don't ask me what that is, I have no 
clue :-(


On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:12, John Agapito wrote:
> No, I am always pathologically careful to stay away from cooker and
> anything too bleeding edge. Nevertheless, unless there are better ideas
> out there, I'll try installing version 2.1.3 of glibc as you suggest.
>
> cheers,
>
> john
>
> Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > Did you upgrade glibc via Cooker (the "Development" option in Mandrake
> > Update)? The Cooker glibc (version 2.2.x) is incompatible with earlier
> > versions, including that of 7.2 (version 2.1.3). Your solutions are to
> > either fully upgrade to Cooker (not recommended) or to downgrade glibc to
> > the version used in 7.2.
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:38, John Agapito wrote:
> > > This is not about girl trouble.
> > >
> > > For some reason, I find today I cannot use su to access root only
> > > progs, etc, such as Drakconf. In the console, if I type su, I get
> > >
> > >   error in loading shared libraries: libxalflaunch.so.0:
> > >   cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > >
> > > From what I can see just nosing around, this lib file is a symbolic
> > > link to libxalflaunch.so.0.0.1, both in /usr/lib. Both files are
> > > actually there, so why the message?
> > >
> > > If I open libxalflaunch.so.0.0.1, I find simply:
> > >
> > >   ELF
> > >
> > > Anyone seen this before? I've been careful to only add new libs, etc
> > > that come down the mandrake update pipe. The only thing that sticks in
> > > my mind that I updated recently was glibc. Could this be it?
> > >
> > > I'm running 7.2, using Gnome. Thanks folks,
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > John
> >
> > --
> > Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge
> > this change.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] modem problem

[Jason Stegman]

On Monday 22 January 2001 01:39, you wrote:
> i recently bought a zoom 56k fax/modem.  i added it to my computer and
> configured it properly.  

How did you configure it?  What command did you issue?

-jason

[newbie] User Add

[surya]

Can someone explain what is going on here...

After installing ML7.2, I created a user, the uid alloted was 501. After that I 
added some more users with uid's 502, 503 etc. The I deleted the user whose uid 
was 501. When i tried to add the same login name at a later time, it said that 
the login name looked like a group name and refused to let me add that. However 
after quitting drakuser after deleting that user (501), i restarted drakuser 
and it allowed me to add a user with the same login name, however the uid 
assigned to that guy was 507. But the I am unable to login as this guy. I 
cannot understand why it won't let me log on as this guy, even tho it shows up 
in the login GUI.

My questions are:

(1) Since UIDs are assigned in increasing order, will I ever have access to UID 
501 again? Or for that matter old UIDs that no longer have a user??

(2) Why am I unable to access the an account that seems to exist?

Thanks in advance...

Surya

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[surya]

Try kppp. I like the part that Queries the modem.

If you are missing the pppd daemon, then use draknet and it will guide you with 
the installation.
> How can i install ppp 
> Please an easy way...
> 
> Thank...
> 
> 
> 

Re: [newbie] Two little problems

[jf arocha]

Thanks to all who replied to my message about the printer and the modem
problems. The printer problem is solved when I tried LP0, as  Matt Schroeder
suggested. The modem is istill not working, but now the telephone makes
noise (like static) when turn it on. I will try what Harvey Janson suggests
in the message.

Thanks again

jf arocha
- Original Message -
From: harvey janson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Two little problems


> Hi,
>  ML 7.2 knows that there is an external modom there, but Hardrake is not
> recognizing it.
>  I have the exact same situation on my system.
>  I use kppp, and during configuration, told the system that the modem was
on
> ttyS0. Everything has worked perfectly since ML 6.0.
>  During installation of ML 7.2, I was warned that there was a problem with
> the winmodem. However, the installation program installed my external
modem.
>  Try to connect to your ISP. Perhaps your external modem is configured.
>  Hardrake will not recognize my external modem, but everything works fine.
>
>   Harvey
>
>
> On Friday 19 January 2001 23:01, you wrote:
> > At 19-01-2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Question 2. My computer came with a winmodem installed but I have an
> > >external USR modem that I connected to one of the ports on the back
> > > (COMM1). The problem is that ML7.2 does not know there is a modem
> > > connected (checked Hardrake and there is nothing  there, no modem is
> > > seen). How do I make sure the ML knows  there is a modem attached?
> >
> > Suggest take out the winmodem,  in Windows configure the external USR on
> > COM1 (not COMM1); reboot into your Linux, link /dev/modem to
/dev/ttyS0 -
> > that is Big S and zero. If you have kppp in your Linux Box, use it to
> > connect to your ISP. HTH, if you need further info mail me off the list.
>
>

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[Phil Murphy]

Hi, Dave. As a relative newcomer to Linux, only about a year ago, :) ,  I am
still learning everyday. For example, switching from a CD-R to a CD-RW
caused me a number of days searching for info as to why I could no longer
access my CD-Rom drive. You will find this a very supportive list, and the
response time is incredibly fast. Welcome to Linux! You'll be glad you
arrived, as I am.  :)

Phil Murphy
Registered Linux user 197338
Yamaha XS1100 SG

- Original Message -
From: Dave Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Emiliano Ogando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???


> > How can i install ppp 
>
> This is interesting.  Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart?
>
> I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so
> complete.  Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a
> Beta.  Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend.  Thing is, I also
> got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I
> should install it.  I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd
> (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with
> Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially.  It
> kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's
> actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one
> on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in
> Device Manager).  That's another issue to swim through.  I may also have a
> Winmodem.  Rats.
>
> In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say.  I have 2 users
set
> up:  "dave" and "root".  The kicker in root works fine and looks just as
it
> did in the screen shots on the web tutorials.  However, there is no kicker
> loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave.  (Side note: When does a
> single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?)  Apparently,
> this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve.
>
> More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the
> software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the
> manual.  In that illustration, the text in the window (of available
> packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of
> others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both
> (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different
> order.  The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday
> night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal
> finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I
> have.About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the
> first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the
> package).
>
> Below that window is a button to install all components.  That choice does
> install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not
> Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the
> tutorials on the website).  Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data
> of a 6 minute install came from the first disk.
>
> If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a
choice
> for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this
> package's custom instalation.  Even if the manual warned only that it may
> not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not
> available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM.  In fact,
> there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations.  There
> are many other differences, too.
>
> What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now.  As soon as
> I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work
more
> diligently to make my hardware work.  With this arrangement, I am thinking
> it futile.  Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy
> a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster
> download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO
> images for the disks from the web.  I am glad to have the manual and the
> books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice
> to have a copy that works.
>
> I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though.  I delayed Linux
> for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it.  I've read the
Re
> Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much
> brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it.
> Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure
> it'll be worth the effort.  I was surprised at how easily I could run a
> dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot.  I did have some
> partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during
> installation but they went without a h

Re: [newbie] icons

[Alan Shoemaker]

Kenneth Legg wrote:
> I installed netscape and think it's great. The question I
> have is a little trivial but I would be thankful for any
> help.
>
> When I make a link from the netscape directory to the
> desktop the icon is a gear, what I would like to do is turn
> that gear into a netscape icon, but can't seem to figure
> out how. Also when I type netscape form a term window
> netscape 4.75 opens. How do I uninstall 4.75 and make
> netscape 6 the default browser?

KennethI'll bet you're dragging the executable from a 
window to the desktop and choosing 'Link'.  Instead 
right-click the desktop and choose 'Create New->Link to 
Application' the applet that comes up has 4 tabs (General, 
Permissions, Execute, and Application).  On the General sheet 
there will be a button with the gear icon on it.  Push the 
button and you'll soon have a wide choice of icons (several 
of which are Netscape icons).  Select the Execute tab and on 
the Execute sheet you'll need to set Command: to 'netscape' 
(or /usr/bin/netscape if you prefer).
-- 
Alan

Re: [newbie] icons

[Dennis Myers]

On Monday 22 January 2001 01:01 am, you wrote:
> I installed netscape and think it's great. The question I have is a
> little trivial but I would be thankful for any help.
>
> When I make a link from the netscape directory to the desktop the icon
> is a gear, what I would like to do is turn that gear into a netscape
> icon, but can't seem to figure out how. Also when I type netscape form a
> term window netscape 4.75 opens. How do I uninstall 4.75 and make
> netscape 6 the default browser?
To uninstall su in a control panel, give your root password .  At the prompt 
type in kpackage. Do a find or scroll through kpackage to Netscape 4.75 and 
then click on uninstall.  ( assuming you are in 7.2 or 7.1).  Then on the 
desktop since you already have a gear icon for netscape 6 (?) do a right 
click on the icon and a popup box will appear. The "general" tab will show a 
gear icon, left click on the icon itself and it will take you to a popup of 
icon selections. Pick an icon by right clicking and then click out on "ok " 
buttons. The new icon should be on the desktop. Hope I was clear and not 
confusing.  Good Luck.
-- 
  Dennis M.
  Registered Linux user #180842

Re: [newbie] please please please HELP ME!!!!

[KompuKit]

vic...turn on your licq

Vic wrote:
> 
> My HP Deskjet does not wrk
> 
> linuxprinting.org is too dang confusing and
> too hard for me to understand.
> 
> Please someone help me I can't use my
> printer.
> 
> I have an HP Deskjet black and white inkjet printer,
> no numbers after the HP Deskjet.
> 
> Cups doesn't do a blasted thing it just
> makes my printer spit out a few stupid
> useless characters that have NOTHING
> to do with what I told it to print.
> 
> Please help

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[newbie] floppy access

[Kenneth Legg]

When I'm logged on as myself I can read from the floppy dirve but can't 
write to it. What groups do I need to join and permissions do I need to 
set so I can write to a floppy.

Many Thanks,
Kenneth Legg

[newbie] icons

[Kenneth Legg]

I installed netscape and think it's great. The question I have is a 
little trivial but I would be thankful for any help.

When I make a link from the netscape directory to the desktop the icon 
is a gear, what I would like to do is turn that gear into a netscape 
icon, but can't seem to figure out how. Also when I type netscape form a 
term window netscape 4.75 opens. How do I uninstall 4.75 and make 
netscape 6 the default browser?

[newbie] please please please HELP ME!!!!

[Vic]

My HP Deskjet does not wrk

linuxprinting.org is too dang confusing and
too hard for me to understand.

Please someone help me I can't use my
printer.

I have an HP Deskjet black and white inkjet printer,
no numbers after the HP Deskjet.

Cups doesn't do a blasted thing it just
makes my printer spit out a few stupid
useless characters that have NOTHING
to do with what I told it to print.

Please help

Re: [newbie] all about su

[John Agapito]

Ok thanks. I'll keep googling around for a solution...

John

Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> 
> I tried doing as you did: upgrading glibc via MandrakeUpdate (not Cooker) and
> trying to run su. I have no problems. It looks like the cause of your su
> troubles could be something else. Just don't ask me what that is, I have no
> clue :-(
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:12, John Agapito wrote:
> > No, I am always pathologically careful to stay away from cooker and
> > anything too bleeding edge. Nevertheless, unless there are better ideas
> > out there, I'll try installing version 2.1.3 of glibc as you suggest.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > john
> >
> > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > > Did you upgrade glibc via Cooker (the "Development" option in Mandrake
> > > Update)? The Cooker glibc (version 2.2.x) is incompatible with earlier
> > > versions, including that of 7.2 (version 2.1.3). Your solutions are to
> > > either fully upgrade to Cooker (not recommended) or to downgrade glibc to
> > > the version used in 7.2.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:38, John Agapito wrote:
> > > > This is not about girl trouble.
> > > >
> > > > For some reason, I find today I cannot use su to access root only
> > > > progs, etc, such as Drakconf. In the console, if I type su, I get
> > > >
> > > >   error in loading shared libraries: libxalflaunch.so.0:
> > > >   cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > > >
> > > > From what I can see just nosing around, this lib file is a symbolic
> > > > link to libxalflaunch.so.0.0.1, both in /usr/lib. Both files are
> > > > actually there, so why the message?
> > > >
> > > > If I open libxalflaunch.so.0.0.1, I find simply:
> > > >
> > > >   ELF
> > > >
> > > > Anyone seen this before? I've been careful to only add new libs, etc
> > > > that come down the mandrake update pipe. The only thing that sticks in
> > > > my mind that I updated recently was glibc. Could this be it?
> > > >
> > > > I'm running 7.2, using Gnome. Thanks folks,
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > John
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge
> > > this change.
> 
> --
> Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> "There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
> LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
> -- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[Meph Istopheles]

> The average income in very small towns like trout creek montana
> (9 hours from seattle at 90mph)

  You're neglection the variable time involved on the shoulder of
the 90 while the trooper writes you up & lectures you on
speeding;-).

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[Dave Burrows]

Perhaps you were pointing also to what follows but deeper on the page to
which you linked earlier:

--
Error scenario: Cannot switch to Expert mode with the Complete/Desktop
product
When: During installation
Why: The Complete/Desktop product is designed for beginners, not experts
Solution: If you really need to switch to expert mode, for example to
install an X server other than the default server, press Alt-E (hold the
Alt key down then press E). Then click again on the installation step you
were executing (in the left column) to restart in expert mode. Alt-E is a
toggle, so you can switch back to the default (Recommended) mode later by
pressing this key combination again. 
--

Will try this later.  Wonder if this mode will give more options for the
programs to be installed than the custom mode did.

civileme wrote:

> When the update disk arrives, follow the special install instructions given at
> 
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72last.php3
-- 
Dave Burrows
741 Cleveland Road
Washington, PA  15301  
USA

Re: [newbie] drakxtools

[abe]

just to add a little perspective here, most american states are larger
then other COUNTRIES.  In europe it is not uncommon to be able to cross
an entire country in a few hours by car.  Yes, a few hours of driving
and you are in a region with different Laws, customs, culture, etc. 

I revently drove from seattle washington to columbus georgia.  Go to
yahoo and check out that route.  It took 3 1/2 days of continuous
(24hours a day in rotation) driving at between 60 and 100mph.  Nebraska
took almost 9 hours to cross at 90 mph.  Montana takes around 12 to go
west to east across.  Huge stretches of this country are open land with
a small town every few hundred miles.

An airport might be 6 or 7 hours drive away.  An airline ticket to
England from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport costs between 500 and
900 dollars for round trip (depending on the season).  The average
income in very small towns like trout creek montana (9 hours from
seattle at 90mph) is around 5000 a year.  You do the math on
electricity, food, gas etc costs and tell me why more americans don't go
to europe or asia let alone New York or L.A. or other large American
cities.

I'm not apologizing for the colloquialism of my fellow americans I
merely hope to cast some realistic details into the conversation.


Abe


John Rye wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:49:00 -0500 (EST), Mark Weaver said:
> 
> >   I would think that it would be one of two things that cause this.
> >
> >1) plain old American arrogance
> 
>   NO comment !!
> 
> >2) a very "small" world view caused mainly by spending too much time in
> >ones own back yard and not having enough contact with the outside world.
> 
>   Yes - it does seem for the visitor that there is a 'small world
> view'
> 
>   A year or so ago, I spent a few weeks in the US, and was really
> surprised
>   at the numbers of people I met who hadn't been 'Out of STATE" let
> alone
>   the country.
> 
> >America being as big "physically" speaking as it is I wouldn't be all that
> >surprised to find out that 80% of its population has never been out of the
> >country.
> 
>   I could 'understand' people I met who didn't know where my country
> was,
>   or that It's best known after all for it's ability to hold off a
> concerted invasion
>   attempt by the US Military for nearly 20 years only by means of
> Flour-bags
>   and Rubber Duckies!! However, that I seemed to know more about the
>   general physical geography of North America was a real stunner!!
> 
>   I remember one young woman who was amazed that one could sit in an
>   aircraft for 15 hours without even seeing land just getting to the
> US, and
>   THEN spend another 5 or 6 hours getting from one side to the
> other!!! The
>   same young woman was later heard to argue with another about the
>   difference between Texans and Arizonians - her primary argument
> being
>   that one must be more suntanned than the other - 'because of all
> the desert'!!
> 
> >That doesn't include Canada or Mexico. I'm referring to off the
> >continent adventures and such. Its surprising how different the outlook
> >and attitude of the Europeans is from that of the Americans. Being an
> >American myself the difference between the European and American world
> >views is sometimes startlingly great.
> 
>   I think you all think that, I think I know that you all think that,
> I just wish that
>   we all knew that we all knew that we all thought that !! 
> 
>   It would be a wonderful world if ALL it's (the worlds') population
> realised just
>   how small this speck of interplanetary dust we inhabit is!!
> 
>   Cheers
> 
>   John
> --
>  Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
>(The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)

[newbie] NIC Configuration

[Rob Callow]

I am familiar with Solaris and not Linux.
I have installed 2 3com 3c509 ethernet cards in a linux box but I am unsure
as to which device to address in the netconf program.

If I run ifconfig 3c509 the two interfaces are added and I can configure
them that way.
Could someone tell me which files I need to modify or what device's to put
in the netconf program.

rob

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Re: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[abe]

you can buy a domain for 15 USD a year at http://www.directnic.com  For
your internal network?  Just make one up.  I usually use my computer
name plus my ISP.  example would be bob.earthlink.net  I guess I could
be making a horrible mistake here but it's never seemed to cause any
problems.


Bob Currey wrote:
> 
> As I'm reading this, the install's host name prompt screen sits in front of
> me.  Because of my setup, I am always lost in the how-tos as far as host
> name is concerned.  At the moment, I'm loading a new server.  For the time
> being, it will have eth0 connected to my home net, getting an IP address via
> the DHCP server on my other Linux box which is currently the server.  The
> 2nd NIC at eth1 is not connected at present, and won't be used till I
> replace the old server with this new one, and then eth1 will run a DHCP
> server for the home LAN.
> 
> The fact that I don't have a Domain has caused me tremendous grief, in that
> setting up Apache, Samba, a DNS server, the FTP server, the Proxy server,
> etc, all expect one, when you read the how-tos.  For someone not a Linux
> guru, it makes the stuff incomprehensible, as nothing fits.  For that
> reason, I ended up giving up at least for the time being on installing them
> on my server (both the old one and new one), but would be very grateful if
> someone could explain what I'm supposed to fill in when they want you to put
> in your domain name in these setups.  I spent many hours reading and never
> understood how to set them up as a result.  I imagine anyone else with a
> home LAN that doesn't have a domain name (and this would be normal, I'd
> expect) would be having the same trouble.
> 
> Any clues would be appreciated  The reload is almost completed (at the
> cost of an afternoon), and I'm guessing from what you say, I'll have the
> same problem again.
> 
> BobC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose M. Sanchez
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
> 
> Sounds like a resolver issue.
> 
> Most applications, including X need to be able to resolv hostnames to IP
> addresses. This even if it's only locally.
> 
> If X cannot determine a local IP then X will not come up right away. Rather
> the applications will hang up until they time out, then things will run
> until you hit the next application.
> 
> I'll also bet that you get a similiar pause during the boot when the mail
> daemons are initialized.
> 
> Check your settings, something is wrong. Your system doesn't know it's own
> name!
> 
> -JMS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
> 
> It started yesterday, after there was a power failure.
> 
> Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms
> Barracuda drives.  The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb.
> 
> No, it can't be slow!!!   Without running X its horribly slow.  With
> X, its unbelievably slow.
> 
> Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!!
> startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up.  The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later.
> 
> The drives are barely being hit.  The NIC isn't flashing.  There are no
> error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I
> expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a
> station on my internal home LAN).  It seems like pine runs at normal speed
> (comparatively) once its up.  pico seems to come up fine by itself.
> 
> Am I at another reload?  Any suggestions how to diagnose?  I shut it down,
> powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests
> on the drives, checked the BIOS setup.  Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs
> fine.  Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason...
> 
> Help!
> 
> BobC

Re: [newbie] Unable to see cdrom

[abe]

there is no such directory as /root/mnt/cdrom  it is /mnt/cdrom



Mike Baker wrote:
> 
> I installed version 7.2 from cdrom.
> It is an ide reader only.
> /etc/fstab includes the line:-
> /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
> I am trying to use the install cd because it is requested by DrakConf
> when I am trying to install an extra ethernet card, however it fails
> to find the cdrom.
> If I type:-
> ls /mnt/cdrom
> I get:-
> ls: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error
> If I try to access /Root/mnt/cdrom from Konqueror I get:-
> unable to enter file:/mnt/cdrom. You do not have access rights
> to this location.
> I would be very grateful if anyone can help me.
> 
> Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
> Frag Fest LAN Parties www.fragfest.f2s.com

Re: [newbie] linux-win lan thoughts.......

[abe]

are you using DHCP on the windows machines or static IP's?  


Quaylar wrote:
> 
> hiho...
> 
> as u will possibly know from various earlier posts i am trying to connect a
> linux and a win machine through thin ethernet.
> up to now i was having the problem that the 2 machines were not able to
> ping each other although everything was set right on both sides..
> 
> now i found a posting on deja where a guy described the same problem, he
> was stating that his lan was working IF:
> 
> he first powered up the win machine and THEN the linux machine..
> 
> so i tried this and it really worked, the lan works when i am first
> powering up the win machine and then the linux machine, vice versa i get
> ping timeouts..
> 
> has anyone of u already experienced this or can anyone give any hints on
> this phenomenon ?...
> 
> any thoughts will be appreciated..;)
> 
> --quay
> 
> --
> -Quaylar-
> Icq# 30932448
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

[newbie] Notebook display

[Ardavan]

(I know this is a very general question, but there might be someone out
there who can help me.)

I was trying to install Mandrake 7.2 on my notebook. After selecting the
monitor recommended by the installer, it returned the error message "can't
call "set_active" on an undefinied value", and I couldn't return to the menu
to make a second choice. (I just installed successfully from the same CD to
my desktop PC, so there's nothing wrong with the media.) Any thoughts?

Ardavan

Re: [newbie] Tape drive problem

[Dan Shanahan]

Thanks for the suggestion,
I took a quick look at the documentation & the command is

taper -T scsi

but it still doesn't work. When I select "Restore Module" taper does not
resond & I cannot exit (same as with mt -f /dev/st0). And when I check the
status of the process, it again says "down". Again, I cannot kill the process.

Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Dan

> Dan,
>
> try using Taper.
>
> as root use this command.
>
> taper -T st0
>
> thats the program I use for my tape drive and it works fine.
>
> --
> Mark
>
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
>
> Linus Torvalds
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Dan Shanahan wrote:
>
> > I am not able to read from my tape drive.
> >
> > About 3 weeks ago, I installed Mandrake 7.1. Before that I had Redhat
> > 5.2. I backed up some file on tape before installing Mandrake 7.1, but I
> > can't read them. When I type in any mt command, like
> >
> > mt -f /dev/st0 tell
> >
> > the xterm appears to not respond.
> > If I check the process in another xterm, the ps command lists the
> > process as "down" & I can't kill the process.
> >
> > Does anyone know what would cause mt to not respond?
> >
> > Thanks, Dan

Re: [newbie] Elightenment as default

[Romanator]

Tony Finnis wrote:
> 
> Romator wrote:
> > How did it Enlightenment set itself as the default graphical virtual
> > desktop? I used to have KDE as my default autoboot for user. I would
> > like to pick and choose my default. I can't reset it back to KDE. There
> > must be some sort of .conf file for this? And, I'm not too crazy about
> > reinstalling the entire Linux OS.
> 
> Jesse replied:
> >Are you using the graphical login manager?  If not, try editing .xsession
> >in your home directory to /usr/bin/kde or wherever it is.  You might have
> >to edit that file as root, I'm not sure.
> 
> Had exact same problem.
> Corrected it as Jesse stated above.
> In .xsession in home directory, remove line
> exec /usr/bin/elightenment
> and replace with
> exec /usr/bin/startkde
> 
> This fixed it for me
> 
> Tony F

Yep. I shelled out to console, and typed in: pico .Xclients
Then, I edited the following line from: exec /usr/bin/enlightenment  
to   /usr/bin/kde
Now, it works.

I originally just added:exec startkde
By that only took me to the KDE GUI startup.

Now, if I can work out how to "Logout->Shutdown and Restart" directly
from user rather than always go to the KDE GUI prompt. And, how about
that nasty flickering when logging out of user to the KDE prompt. Have
you experienced this?

Thanks go to Sridhar, Jesse and Tony F.

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
Penguin Charged Email

[newbie] Oidentd on Mandrake 7.2

[John Catral]

Hello! Has anyone tried using Oidentd with Mandrake? 
Did you get it to work?  I heard that oidentd works
well with any client thats behind a router/firewall
that also acts as a dhcp server.  The router I am
using is FreeSCO.  Any tips would be appreciated! =)

__
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Re: [newbie] Resizing Partitions

[Dave Burrows]

Clem; 

I'm only a few days old into Linux, too.. so am not taking expert status
here but your situation is not unlike mine.  I can't say that this is the
right way, the best way or even the safest way but here's how I did it.  I
used a 1986 copy of Partition Magic (v. 3.0; it's what I had and the new
version is $65 or better) to reduce the size of my existing partitions. 
This put free space in essentially unusable areas of the HD.  Then, I moved
what remained of the drives (you can't move the free space, at least in the
version I used) to consolidate the free space and closed PM.  When I
rebooted Windows, it saw the resized drives but the "lost" free space was
unaccounted for anywhere.  My 8.1 GB drive is now just under 6 GB to
Windows.

When I got to the point of the Linux install, I used the expert mode (in
other installations, I read that option is called DiskDrake) and began by
making a 128 MB swap drive.  I also made 2 others with the bulk of the 2 GB
I still had free. Out of curiosity, I looked at what I'd done later in PM
again.  It saw the 3 new little drives and noted them as "other" in the
legend.  A newer version of PM might know what to call them.  Windows saw
nothing of the space or of the drives that Linux made.

To my way of thinking, this put the data I had in the least jeopardy (aside
from the risk of having used software to partition that was designed for
Win95) and it was in a way that made sense to me.  Partly because I didn't
understand fully what Linux needed, I didn't like the idea of Windows and
Linux being on the same virtual drive even if a new partition was
installed. I don't care to have my peas and mashed potatoes commingling on
the same plate with gravy or something slathered over all, either.  ;)  In
retrospect, I'm glad I did it the way I did it but at the same time, if it
made better sense to increase my Windows drive than to create the space
elsewhere, I wouldn't be as afraid to do it.  I hope there is something you
can use here.

Dave

Clem wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a very newbie Linux-Mandrake user who wants to know what is the best
> way to increase the size of my Windows Partition (I played around with
> RedHat a while ago, and set up a 7 GB Windows and a 13 GB RH partition -
> but most of my memory intensive applications are in Windows).
> 
> Is it possible to use Diskdrake to remove the Linux partitions, then
> increase the size of my Windows partition, and then put the Linux ones back
> on?
> 
> Or is there a better way of doing it?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Clem

-- 
Dave Burrows
741 Cleveland Road
Washington, PA  15301  
USA

Re: [newbie] Scanner

[Meph Istopheles]

> Do you know of a decent scanning suite?  I don't know if you're
> familar with Pagis Pro for windows, but I could really use
> something like that for Linux.

  Sorry.  I've only recently come by a scanner.  It's one of the
Silitek's not supported either by sane or W2k (though the driver
for W2k supposed makes it so -- no such luck).  I'll be getting
another from my father soon which is supported by sane, anyway.

  As for suites, I can only say that I've seen mention in this &
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list of a few, but I can't say I remember
their names.

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

Re: [newbie] Scanner

[s]

On Sunday 21 January 2001 06:12 pm, you wrote:
> Seb,
>
> > does anyone know how to get a Scanmaker e3 plus to work in LM
> > 7.2 ? It's parralllel
>
>   Have you tried first, DrakeConf?  I've never heard of this
> manufacturer, but if it's there, you're set.  Second would be to
> check the Linux &/or sane hardware compatibility docs.
>
>   Like the last scanner question, there are two possibilities.
>
>   Keep in mind though, 1. parallel scanners are slow, & 2. even
> if you can find no listing of compatibility, you may be able to
> get, at least, ~some~ of the capabilities (particularly the
> ability to ~at least~ scan) with drivers for other hardware.  A
> scanner is like most any other piece of hardware -- if one driver
> doesn't work, there may be another.
>
>   Meph

Do you know of a decent scanning suite?  I don't know if you're familar with 
Pagis Pro for windows, but I could really use something like that for Linux.
-s

Re: [newbie] BitchX

[s]

On Sunday 21 January 2001 04:05 pm, you wrote:
> Hey...
>
> I have installed BitchX, but I don´t know how to run it...
> I can´t find where is it...

On your harddrive: locate bitchx.
On the web: http://www.bitchx.org

-s

[newbie] fs fs=iso9660 not supported by kernel

[Donald Hinds]

I've been having more CDROM problems. MD7.2  First I had to change /dev/cdrom
to /dev/scd0 in fstab.  Then I could run the CD and ran the Madrake Update CD.


Then in KDE I was getting Permisson denied' (permission was set) amd somehow
I fixed that in ROOT mode.  But Now I cannot mount cdrom, I get the above error.
Same for floppy and 'windows' partitions. the file 'filesystems' shows cdrom,
frloop etc.

Any ideas what file to fix?

   Don

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[Alan Shoemaker]

Emiliano Ogando wrote:
> How can i install ppp 
> Please an easy way...
>
> Thank...

Emilianoppp-2.4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm is a file on your 
Installation CD.  Mount your Installation CD then in console 
mode, as root, type:

rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/ppp-2.4.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
-- 
Alan

[newbie] Resizing Partitions

[Clem]

Hi,

I'm a very newbie Linux-Mandrake user who wants to know what is the best
way to increase the size of my Windows Partition (I played around with
RedHat a while ago, and set up a 7 GB Windows and a 13 GB RH partition -
but most of my memory intensive applications are in Windows).

Is it possible to use Diskdrake to remove the Linux partitions, then
increase the size of my Windows partition, and then put the Linux ones back
on?

Or is there a better way of doing it?

Thanks in advance,

Clem

Re: [newbie] Elightenment as default

[Tony Finnis]

Romator wrote:
> How did it Enlightenment set itself as the default graphical virtual
> desktop? I used to have KDE as my default autoboot for user. I would
> like to pick and choose my default. I can't reset it back to KDE. There
> must be some sort of .conf file for this? And, I'm not too crazy about
> reinstalling the entire Linux OS.

Jesse replied:
>Are you using the graphical login manager?  If not, try editing .xsession
>in your home directory to /usr/bin/kde or wherever it is.  You might have
>to edit that file as root, I'm not sure.

Had exact same problem.
Corrected it as Jesse stated above.
In .xsession in home directory, remove line
exec /usr/bin/elightenment
and replace with
exec /usr/bin/startkde

This fixed it for me

Tony F

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[Dave Burrows]

I know it was a verbose post but there were 2 points which you missed.  You
suggest to "choose the expert mode".  Would that I could.  As I said:  "In
fact, there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations." 
As to "DO NOT choose 100% of the packages unless.." , I'd agree
entirely were there any other way to have installed KDE or Gnome.  I
encourage you to read the details of why I did this and my point at having
writen it (which was to say that all 7.2 versions are not created equally
and that what works in one package may not work in another even if the
manual says it will).  Thanks for the link; I'd been to that page but had
forgotten how I got there.  While I anticipate I'll have downloaded both
ISO files before the update arrives here, I may be pleasantly surprised to
find it sooner.  

By the way; I found a link to a site where several US national chains of
retailers are detailed as to specific modems they stock, with prices and
whether or not they've been tested on Linux machines.  Look about 2/3 down
the page just below the colored charts.  It's here:

 

Anyone know of a way to decide for certain if a modem will work in Linux
other than testing it?  My clue to a so-called winmodem in my case is that
I typically work on a small budget and would have gone for a $30 - $40
modem rather than a $60 or more model (and those seem more often soft
modems) plus, when I tried accessing it in Linux, I go "sorry, the modem is
busy" when I knew it wasn't.  Cable looks even better right now.  I don't
think it's available here yet, though. 

Dave


> On Sunday 21 January 2001 22:03, you wrote:
> > > How can i install ppp 
> >
> > This is interesting.  Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart?
> >
> > I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so
> > complete.  Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a
> > Beta.  Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend.  Thing is, I also
> > got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I
> > should install it.  I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd
> > (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with
> > Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially.  It
> > kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's
> > actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one
> > on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in
> > Device Manager).  That's another issue to swim through.  I may also have a
> > Winmodem.  Rats.
> >
> > In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say.  I have 2 users set
> > up:  "dave" and "root".  The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it
> > did in the screen shots on the web tutorials.  However, there is no kicker
> > loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave.  (Side note: When does a
> > single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?)  Apparently,
> > this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve.
> >
> > More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the
> > software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the
> > manual.  In that illustration, the text in the window (of available
> > packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of
> > others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both
> > (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different
> > order.  The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday
> > night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal
> > finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I
> > have.About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the
> > first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the
> > package).
> >
> > Below that window is a button to install all components.  That choice does
> > install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not
> > Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the
> > tutorials on the website).  Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data
> > of a 6 minute install came from the first disk.
> >
> > If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice
> > for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this
> > package's custom instalation.  Even if the manual warned only that it may
> > not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not
> > available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM.  In fact,
> > there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations.  There
> > are many other differences, too.
> >
> > What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now.  As soon as
> > I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more
>

RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[Bob Currey]

As I'm reading this, the install's host name prompt screen sits in front of
me.  Because of my setup, I am always lost in the how-tos as far as host
name is concerned.  At the moment, I'm loading a new server.  For the time
being, it will have eth0 connected to my home net, getting an IP address via
the DHCP server on my other Linux box which is currently the server.  The
2nd NIC at eth1 is not connected at present, and won't be used till I
replace the old server with this new one, and then eth1 will run a DHCP
server for the home LAN.

The fact that I don't have a Domain has caused me tremendous grief, in that
setting up Apache, Samba, a DNS server, the FTP server, the Proxy server,
etc, all expect one, when you read the how-tos.  For someone not a Linux
guru, it makes the stuff incomprehensible, as nothing fits.  For that
reason, I ended up giving up at least for the time being on installing them
on my server (both the old one and new one), but would be very grateful if
someone could explain what I'm supposed to fill in when they want you to put
in your domain name in these setups.  I spent many hours reading and never
understood how to set them up as a result.  I imagine anyone else with a
home LAN that doesn't have a domain name (and this would be normal, I'd
expect) would be having the same trouble.

Any clues would be appreciated  The reload is almost completed (at the
cost of an afternoon), and I'm guessing from what you say, I'll have the
same problem again.

BobC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose M. Sanchez
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow



Sounds like a resolver issue.

Most applications, including X need to be able to resolv hostnames to IP
addresses. This even if it's only locally.

If X cannot determine a local IP then X will not come up right away. Rather
the applications will hang up until they time out, then things will run
until you hit the next application.

I'll also bet that you get a similiar pause during the boot when the mail
daemons are initialized.

Check your settings, something is wrong. Your system doesn't know it's own
name!

-JMS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow


It started yesterday, after there was a power failure.

Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms
Barracuda drives.  The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb.

No, it can't be slow!!!   Without running X its horribly slow.  With
X, its unbelievably slow.

Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!!
startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up.  The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later.

The drives are barely being hit.  The NIC isn't flashing.  There are no
error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I
expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a
station on my internal home LAN).  It seems like pine runs at normal speed
(comparatively) once its up.  pico seems to come up fine by itself.

Am I at another reload?  Any suggestions how to diagnose?  I shut it down,
powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests
on the drives, checked the BIOS setup.  Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs
fine.  Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason...

Help!

BobC

Re: [newbie] Unable to see cdrom

[Mike Baker]

It's an ide reader only.

At 16:31 21/01/2001, you wrote:
>If it is a R/RW CDROM then try /dev/scd0  instead of /dev/cdrom in fstab, but
>leave the /mnt/cdrom alone
>
>   Don
>
> >
> >
> >I installed version 7.2 from cdrom. 
> >It is an ide reader only. 
> >/etc/fstab includes the line:- 
> >/mnt/cdrom
> >/mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
> >I am trying to use the install cd because it is requested by DrakConf
> >when I am trying to install an extra ethernet card, however it fails to
> >find the cdrom. 
> >If I type:- 
> >ls
> >/mnt/cdrom 
> >I get:- 
> >ls:
> >/mnt/cdrom: Input/output error 
> >If I try to access /Root/mnt/cdrom from Konqueror I get:- 
> >unable to
> >enter
> > color="#FF">file:/mnt/href="file://\mnt\cdrom" eudora="autourl">cdrom.
> >You do not have access rights to this location.
> >I would be very grateful if anyone can help me.
> >
> >
> >
> >Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
> >Frag Fest LAN Parties
> >http://www.fragfest.f2s.com/" 
> eudora="autourl">www.fragfest.f2s.href="http://www.fragfest.f2s.com/" eudora="autourl">com
> >
> >
> >
> >

Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
Frag Fest LAN Parties www.fragfest.f2s.com

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[civileme]

On Sunday 21 January 2001 22:03, you wrote:
> > How can i install ppp 
>
> This is interesting.  Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart?
>
> I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so
> complete.  Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a
> Beta.  Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend.  Thing is, I also
> got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I
> should install it.  I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd
> (there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with
> Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially.  It
> kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's
> actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one
> on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in
> Device Manager).  That's another issue to swim through.  I may also have a
> Winmodem.  Rats.
>
> In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say.  I have 2 users set
> up:  "dave" and "root".  The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it
> did in the screen shots on the web tutorials.  However, there is no kicker
> loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave.  (Side note: When does a
> single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?)  Apparently,
> this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve.
>
> More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the
> software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the
> manual.  In that illustration, the text in the window (of available
> packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of
> others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both
> (the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different
> order.  The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday
> night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal
> finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I
> have.About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the
> first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the
> package).
>
> Below that window is a button to install all components.  That choice does
> install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not
> Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the
> tutorials on the website).  Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data
> of a 6 minute install came from the first disk.
>
> If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice
> for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this
> package's custom instalation.  Even if the manual warned only that it may
> not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not
> available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM.  In fact,
> there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations.  There
> are many other differences, too.
>
> What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now.  As soon as
> I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more
> diligently to make my hardware work.  With this arrangement, I am thinking
> it futile.  Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy
> a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster
> download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO
> images for the disks from the web.  I am glad to have the manual and the
> books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice
> to have a copy that works.
>
> I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though.  I delayed Linux
> for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it.  I've read the Re
> Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much
> brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it.
> Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure
> it'll be worth the effort.  I was surprised at how easily I could run a
> dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot.  I did have some
> partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during
> installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows
> that Linux even exists on the same machine (and visa versa so far).  My old
> PM v. 3.0 had no trouble resizing and moving partions already in existence
> to accomodate the Linux files.
>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote:
> > How can i install ppp 
> > Please an easy way...


Install in expert mode  

DO NOT choose 100% of the packages unless you go for individual package 
selection afterward and make sure you do not install printpro, or Zope or any 
of the Glide packages (unless you have a Voodoo 3dfx in which case install 
ONLY the one for your card).  75-80%

RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Sounds like a resolver issue.

Most applications, including X need to be able to resolv hostnames to IP
addresses. This even if it's only locally.

If X cannot determine a local IP then X will not come up right away. Rather
the applications will hang up until they time out, then things will run
until you hit the next application.

I'll also bet that you get a similiar pause during the boot when the mail
daemons are initialized.

Check your settings, something is wrong. Your system doesn't know it's own
name!

-JMS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow


It started yesterday, after there was a power failure.

Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms
Barracuda drives.  The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb.

No, it can't be slow!!!   Without running X its horribly slow.  With
X, its unbelievably slow.

Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!!
startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up.  The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later.

The drives are barely being hit.  The NIC isn't flashing.  There are no
error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I
expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a
station on my internal home LAN).  It seems like pine runs at normal speed
(comparatively) once its up.  pico seems to come up fine by itself.

Am I at another reload?  Any suggestions how to diagnose?  I shut it down,
powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests
on the drives, checked the BIOS setup.  Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs
fine.  Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason...

Help!

BobC

Re: [newbie] Terratec sound card with CS4624

[Meph Istopheles]

> Does anyone Know how can i install the Terratec DMX XFire 1024 sound
> card? (CS 4624)

  I have a Crystal Audio card which uses the cs4624 (I think --
HardDrake can't seem to figure it out).  I got shound working
first with a lesser module, but later with the right one.  Do a
CTL+ALT+F2 (if you're in X), log in as root & run:

# /sbin/sndconfig

  If sndconfig can't set it properly, you can always set the
options manually.  I'd start with the Crystal Audio listing, but
you may have to go through a few in the list till you find one
that works if your card isn't supported.

  Meph

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  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

[newbie] Terratec sound card with CS4624

[Leonidas Papadopoulos]

Does anyone Know how can i install the Terratec DMX XFire 1024 sound
card? (CS 4624)

Re: [newbie] all about su

[John Agapito]

No, I am always pathologically careful to stay away from cooker and
anything too bleeding edge. Nevertheless, unless there are better ideas
out there, I'll try installing version 2.1.3 of glibc as you suggest.

cheers,

john 




Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> 
> Did you upgrade glibc via Cooker (the "Development" option in Mandrake
> Update)? The Cooker glibc (version 2.2.x) is incompatible with earlier
> versions, including that of 7.2 (version 2.1.3). Your solutions are to either
> fully upgrade to Cooker (not recommended) or to downgrade glibc to the
> version used in 7.2.
> 
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:38, John Agapito wrote:
> > This is not about girl trouble.
> >
> > For some reason, I find today I cannot use su to access root only progs,
> > etc, such as Drakconf. In the console, if I type su, I get
> >
> >   error in loading shared libraries: libxalflaunch.so.0:
> >   cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > From what I can see just nosing around, this lib file is a symbolic link
> > to libxalflaunch.so.0.0.1, both in /usr/lib. Both files are actually
> > there, so why the message?
> >
> > If I open libxalflaunch.so.0.0.1, I find simply:
> >
> >   ELF
> >
> > Anyone seen this before? I've been careful to only add new libs, etc
> > that come down the mandrake update pipe. The only thing that sticks in
> > my mind that I updated recently was glibc. Could this be it?
> >
> > I'm running 7.2, using Gnome. Thanks folks,
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > John
> 
> --
> Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[Dave Burrows]

> How can i install ppp 

This is interesting.  Did your copy also come from Wal-Mart?

I have a boxed version of 7.2 Complete which, I'm told, may not be so
complete.  Among other things, it's KDE 2.0 is not the final version but a
Beta.  Apparently, a disk is now on it's way to amend.  Thing is, I also
got the message that it couldn't find the ppp daemon (pppd) and that I
should install it.  I dug out RpmDrake and found the files related to pppd
(there were 2, I think) and prepared to install them along with
Enlightenment and the parts of Gnome that weren't installed initially.  It
kept telling me that it couldn't communicate with the CD ROM (though it's
actually a CD-RW and there are 2 of them in Device Manager though only one
on my machine.. in addition to a CD-ROM which appears as it should in
Device Manager).  That's another issue to swim through.  I may also have a
Winmodem.  Rats.  

In this version of LM 7.2, the KDE is in Beta as I say.  I have 2 users set
up:  "dave" and "root".  The kicker in root works fine and looks just as it
did in the screen shots on the web tutorials.  However, there is no kicker
loaded (and a message telling me so) in dave.  (Side note: When does a
single user of a machine use root and, in this case, dave?)  Apparently,
this is one of the issues that the update disk they're sending will solve.

More frustratingly, one of many, many points of difference between the
software and the manual included with it is illustrated on page 64 of the
manual.  In that illustration, the text in the window (of available
packages from which to choose to install) shows KDE and quite a number of
others which are not evident in my installation screen and the ones both
(the manual and my software version) share in common are in a different
order.  The first two times I installed Linux (never used it before Friday
night), I selected all the available options but 2; one on personal
finances and another for Palm Pilot device interfaces, neither of which I
have.About 75% of the data in this 4 minute install came from the
first disk with the remainder coming from the second (of the 4 in the
package).  

Below that window is a button to install all components.  That choice does
install KDE and Gnome (but only 2 other desktop environments, not
Enlightenment, BlackBox or any others that looked interesting in the
tutorials on the website).  Strangely, all but the last 10 seconds of data
of a 6 minute install came from the first disk.

If the manual said a particular choice detailed there might not be a choice
for either recommended or custom modes, it was not not available in this
package's custom instalation.  Even if the manual warned only that it may
not be an available choice in recommended mode installations, it was not
available in the custom mode of this early 7.2 version of LM.  In fact,
there were only 2 choices: 300MB minimal and custom installations.  There
are many other differences, too.  

What I'm going to do is to just play with what I have for now.  As soon as
I can get a fully functional copy of less dubious integrity, I'll work more
diligently to make my hardware work.  With this arrangement, I am thinking
it futile.  Maybe what I'll do to pacify myself in the meanwhile is to buy
a modem (to replace my 33.6 winmodem) that is possibly capable of faster
download speeds, set up my download manager in Win98 and download the ISO
images for the disks from the web.  I am glad to have the manual and the
books and so forth on the other 2 disks but darn-it, it sure would be nice
to have a copy that works.

I am glad to have gotten this far in one weekend, though.  I delayed Linux
for close to 2 years, unsure that I'd be able to "do" it.  I've read the Re
Hat newslist from time to time and it appeared as though people, much
brighter than I about computers, struggled to install and configure it. 
Universally, people seem broadly satisfied with the system and so I figure
it'll be worth the effort.  I was surprised at how easily I could run a
dual OS drive, the choice made with Grub at boot.  I did have some
partitioning to do both before (with Partition Magic) and during
installation but they went without a hitch. I see no evidence in Windows
that Linux even exists on the same machine (and visa versa so far).  My old
PM v. 3.0 had no trouble resizing and moving partions already in existence
to accomodate the Linux files.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote:

> How can i install ppp 
> Please an easy way...
>
-- 
Dave Burrows
741 Cleveland Road
Washington, PA  15301  
USA

[newbie] Problem with Gnome

[Blomquist, Niklas]

I have som problem with Gnome, I can't lock the screen or use anu
screensavers.

I'm running MD 7.2, Any suggestion?

/Niklas

> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Meph Istopheles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 21 januari 2001 21:47
> Till: Linux-Mandrake Newbie
> Ämne: [newbie] VMWare license
> 
> 
>   Hey,
> 
>   OK.  Maybe my last query on this was just too damned wordy;-).
> 
>   Where is the license.txt for VMWare?
> 
>   Meph
> 
> -- 
>   "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
>   -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
> 
> 

[newbie] VMWare license

[Meph Istopheles]

  Hey,

  OK.  Maybe my last query on this was just too damned wordy;-).

  Where is the license.txt for VMWare?

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

RE: [newbie] Mandrake and Winnt

[Meph Istopheles]

  Bob,

> Yup, I did read that, and a bunch more...

> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html

> The how to, although having plenty of good info, does not
> address win/2000 or nt at all since the author had neither.

  Sorry.  Thought I mentioned that.  The reason I'd suggested it
was for pointers.  Much of the information really does apply to
any multi-boot install, yet each carries certain "gotchya's" best
addressed if & when they come up.  I have noticed though, that
the howto's are being (albeit slowly) updated, & there are new
additions as well.  I can't imagine it will be long before there
will be Linux/W2k howto.

  Think how it was when the few existing howto's weren't being
updated at all.  Worse, way beck when there were ~only~ a few.
With the growing popularity of Linux, the maintainers of the doc
project have realized that they too have to do more than archive
out-dated material.

> I talked to ops in linux-mandrake on irc and there are
> differences in the nt boot as compared to win/2000.  I don't
> recall the details.

  Hmm.  Well, yes...from what I vaguely remember from the time
I'd dual-booted with NT4 (though only for a short time -- I don't
much care for NT, let alone Windows).  But the differences are
worked out as one goes.  I'm by no means ~that~ good with Linux,
but I've learned a lot from trial & error, trial & success.  And
with the fact Windows OS's have often to be reinstalled for
whatever reason, one picks it all up.

> I don't think its anything for 98% of the newbie type people I
> know to mess with.  Hopefully, the other 2% are wise enough to
> be doing it on a spare disk drive.

  This is always the safest thing -- particularly with any
Windows as the other OS, though I admit that I've managed a
pretty stable dual-boot last RH 6.0/W98 & now on two boxes with
lm7.2/W2k.  It has a great deal to do with how Windows installed.
It doesn't matter than the box may not have changed between
installs -- Windows (& I've noticed that RH 5.0 & 6.0 to a lesser
degree) installs differently each time it's installed.  If it
isn't especially stable to begin with (all things considered), it
won't help your Linux at all.

  But, though you are (& I am) taking your chances dual-booting
on a single drive, things are getting better.

> I made the mistake of trying to multiboot using space I had
>left free  once a few years ago and lost it all (my live
> partition, with all my apps and code and financial stuff) in a
> goofed partitioning program or via my error, I'll never know.

  It happens to everyone -- & it's not necessarily operator
error.  The first time I installed lm7.2, my W2k had installed
oddly on D instead of C.  I figured that since both W2k & lm7.2
were smart enough to install anywhere on a hard drive, I'd just
install lm on the first partiton.  During the lm intall, I'd
specifially clicked only on the first partiont to format the
first, free, partition only.  You guessed it -- it formatted the
entire drive.  Just goes to show that even a smart OS/install app
can screw up.

> I gotta say, though, Linux newbies in particular, seem to
> rarely be real newbie types like the one I deal with all day,
> everyday.

  Heh.  If I understand you right, you're talking about the
average Windows end-user as opposed to an end-user who'd at least
connected to a Unix server via telnet...so to speak.  I think one
has to be a bit more a geek to even try Linux, let alone try it &
stick with it.

  What I don't get is all this talk of a steep learning curve.
It's only a very short time that anyone attempting a Unix/Linux
remains lost.  I've known people who knew nothing beyond point &
click in Windows who'd learned how to deal with occasionally
useing the command line (without too much whining;-) in very
short order.

  A Linux newbie is simply not a 'puter newbie.

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

[newbie] gnome-sawfish

[Michael Keener]

hello worldly beings!!!

has anyone experienced problems with gome-sawfish?
by problems I mean when logging in and choosing
sawfish, it takes anywhere from 1-3 minutes to load
and most of the time I can't log off, I have to use
ctl-alt-bkspace. all of the other window managers
work great.any ideas

   regards
   mike

Re: [newbie] Re: I want Micro-EMACS

[Michael O'Henly]

I used emacs until I discovered jed (which is also part of the LM 
distribution). Jed has most of emacs' power but none of the footprint. It's 
fast enough to use an an email editor, has umpteen dozen modes that support 
indenting, syntax highlighting, etc., and is actively developed and supported 
by its author, John Davis.

M.

On Sunday 21 January 2001 11:26, you wrote:
> Ummm, do you realize that the install of 7.2 you made probably has both
> emacs and xemacs?  These run like Micro-EMACS (same commands plus some
> features) without a new compile.
>
> The one link I found for a port of Micro-EMACS to linux _says_ it is GPL,
> but the original text from the author suggests it is shareware.
>
> It compiles easily, it runs nicely (in a terminal), and it supports a nice
> subset of emacs commands.  The port does use French messages.  It runs from
> whatever directory you put the binary into after compiling.  It appears to
> demand that any files edited BE in that directory, because it doesn't
> appear to support directory paths.
>
> ftp.ac-grenoble.fr/ge/Office/microemacs-5.03.tgz
>
> is the link I used.  I don't think I will use MicroEMACS unless I have a
> very limited machine.  I would dearly miss the color-coding of c, bash,
> perl, and python source.
>
> Civileme

-- 
Michael O'Henly
TENZO Design

Re: [newbie] menu system problem

[KompuKit]

I tried that already...it still won't fix it...

civileme wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 21 January 2001 19:16, you wrote:
> > Is there a way to fix multiple entriesin the Kmenu
> > system?
> >
> > after an attempt of installing an app called: "rmagic" for
> > analog
> >
> > (which also used CPAN to install some needed modules)
> >
> > I now have multiple entries of everything in my kmenu...
> > there's 4 entries of each app...
> >
> > I re-installed kdebase 2.0...which fixed it momentarily
> > last night...but when I just logged on tonight...it's back
> > to multiple entries again.  Then I tried menu editor and
> > that
> > helped for a short time...but it's back again also.
> >
> > I tried re-installing menu, and everything else I could
> > think of
> > in RPMsI tried SUing to root...and commanding:
> > update-menus -v
> >
> > and menueditor
> > both in user, and in root mode
> >
> > how can I fix this...?
> Get into a terminal
> 
> su -
> 
> when you are in root mode,
> 
> menudrake
> 
> update-menus
> exit
> 
> Civileme

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Re: [newbie] OT Travelling -- was drakxtools

[Vic]

I think that would be a really neat program,
that is, if our messed up us government would
go for it, I would choose to visit Africa (If I could stand
the heat,  but from the pictures I have seen from
my uncle and aunt, it was such beautiful countryside)
and my heritage country (Britain) and Italy (My mom
went to Italy and she loved it, I wish I could have
gone, some tomatoes she brought back and
they were the best dang tomatoes I have ever
tasted that is for sure) and Japan and Asia (China).

I wish I could learn more languages, all I can speak
other than English is a little Japanese, a few Chinese
words, and some Arabic words--enough to ask
where one can find lodging, food and the loo.

That would be my travel wishes.


On Sunday 21 January 2001 03:10 am,  Chris Drury wrote:
> Amen brother!  As an American who has lived overseas for about 8 years, I
> think it should be mandatory for all Americans to live outside of the U.S.
> for a minimum of 1 year.  I feel then Americans will appreciate what they
> have a little more and have an understanding of another culture.  Then
> maybe we can all live together in peace and help those less fortunate than
> us.
>
> Just my 20 Lira.
>
> -chris

RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[Bob Currey]

What's the best way to reload it?  Fdisk and remove the partition?  Is there
a less painful way?

I tried the other solutions.  CPU usage is almost nil...

Thanks,

BobC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow


On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:27, you wrote:
> It started yesterday, after there was a power failure.
>
> Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4
> ms Barracuda drives.  The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb.
>
> No, it can't be slow!!!   Without running X its horribly slow.
> With X, its unbelievably slow.
>
> Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!!
> startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up.  The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later.
>
> The drives are barely being hit.  The NIC isn't flashing.  There are no
> error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I
> expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a
> station on my internal home LAN).  It seems like pine runs at normal speed
> (comparatively) once its up.  pico seems to come up fine by itself.
>
> Am I at another reload?  Any suggestions how to diagnose?  I shut it down,
> powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full
tests
> on the drives, checked the BIOS setup.  Then I tried windoze 98 and it
runs
> fine.  Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason...
>
> Help!
>
> BobC

Well, you might want to try top or ktop to see the process that is hogging
the cpu, but most likely it will be less trouble to reload the system (as in
reinstall).  Something got clobbered (we hope it isn't hardware) which other
processes are waiting for completion of.

Civileme

Re: [newbie] menu system problem

[civileme]

On Sunday 21 January 2001 19:16, you wrote:
> Is there a way to fix multiple entriesin the Kmenu
> system?
>
> after an attempt of installing an app called: "rmagic" for
> analog
>
> (which also used CPAN to install some needed modules)
>
> I now have multiple entries of everything in my kmenu...
> there's 4 entries of each app...
>
> I re-installed kdebase 2.0...which fixed it momentarily
> last night...but when I just logged on tonight...it's back
> to multiple entries again.  Then I tried menu editor and
> that
> helped for a short time...but it's back again also.
>
> I tried re-installing menu, and everything else I could
> think of
> in RPMsI tried SUing to root...and commanding:
> update-menus -v
>
> and menueditor
> both in user, and in root mode
>
> how can I fix this...?
Get into a terminal

su -

when you are in root mode, 

menudrake

update-menus
exit


Civileme

Re: [newbie] How to install ppp ???

[Ribbo]

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Emiliano Ogando wrote:

> How can i install ppp 
> Please an easy way...
> 
> Thank...
> 

PPP comes with the kernel.
its not a program


-- 
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-- Klesk, Quake III Arena.

Re: [newbie] ISA PnP modem won't respond

[David E. Fox]

On Sunday 14 January 2001 01:25, you wrote:

> My BIOS is set to non-PnP. My ISA (real) modem can be
> jumpered to a specific IRQ, or to PnP. It's currently set to
> PnP, which works fine in Win98. Linux is a different story.

I think you'll have a more successful time if you jumper it to use a specific 
IRQ / comm port. Doublecheck your configuration - usually you'll have the 
modem on one IRQ/comm port and the mouse on another. If the mouse is already 
working on one IRQ, choose the other one :).

>
> But when I try to connect to the Internet in KDE, I'm told
> that the modem "won't respond" to either /dev/ttyS0 or to
> /dev/modem (which would be the same, thanks to modemtool).

/dev/modem is usually a symbolic link to either /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1, 
whichever your modem is on. If your modem is on 'com 1' (in windows/dos) then 
you should use /dev/ttyS0. 

> If I try ttyS1 or anything else, I'm told that the device is
> "busy", so it knows something is different about ttyS0.

It's possible that /dev/ttyS1 is your mouse. It's busy :).

Like I said, the approach I would take first is to jumper the modem to use 
the 'other' comm port (most systems have two of these, although it is 
possible to have four total). You can try echoing characters to the modem 
device from the command line if you want to check if it's hooked up right. 
Alternatively try interfacing with the modem through 'minicom' which should 
be installed on your system. It's a terminal-based comm program which is 
pretty easy to use. At least you should be able to type out somehting like 
"ATDT xxx' to see if the modem dials.

> Miark

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Re: [newbie] Is the Korn shell freeware?

[David E. Fox]

On Wednesday 17 January 2001 04:31, you wrote:
> clear in my query. What is a "Korn" shell? As in, what is this particular
> shell program like and what are it's attributes? How does it perform and
> behave and stack up against Konsole, xterm, and so on?

Korn is (I think) a variant of the original Bourne shell (sh) written by 
David Korn. It does have some advantages over the original 'sh' shell, but 
then so does the 'bash' shell that most Linux users use. But you're comparing 
apples and oranges here. Konsole/xterm/etc are terminal emulators, not 
shells. A shell runs 'inside' a Konsole or an xterm (other things can run 
inside them too, but the shell is what interprets commands you type on the 
command line.) So if you are in an xterm and type 'ls' at the prompt, it is 
(usually) bash that takes that as a request to run the 'ls' command, not 
xterm itself.

Korn shell was popular with some, and it probably still is. Most people who 
want Korn on Linux are likely familiar with using other variants of Unix and 
have gotten familiar with that shell and like it. But (as far as I know) the 
korn shell is still non-GPL - that may have changed, of couirse, I haven't 
payed much attention to it. Also, there is a variant of Korn called 'pdksh' 
which is fairly widely available and runs on Linux. And there is another 
variant with loads of extensions called the 'Z shell' (zsh) included on the 
Mandrake CD.


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[newbie] test

[Sean Kenny]

Apolgies

test newbie list - I've posted acouple of times from kmail and they haven't
appeared, although other stuff seems to get through.

[newbie] menu system problem

[KompuKit]

Is there a way to fix multiple entriesin the Kmenu
system?

after an attempt of installing an app called: "rmagic" for
analog

(which also used CPAN to install some needed modules)

I now have multiple entries of everything in my kmenu...
there's 4 entries of each app...

I re-installed kdebase 2.0...which fixed it momentarily
last night...but when I just logged on tonight...it's back
to multiple entries again.  Then I tried menu editor and
that
helped for a short time...but it's back again also.

I tried re-installing menu, and everything else I could
think of
in RPMsI tried SUing to root...and commanding:
update-menus -v

and menueditor
both in user, and in root mode

how can I fix this...?


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Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[James Mellema]

Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> 
> This has just given me an idea. Instead of just having some preset
> installation configurations like "Workstation", "Development and "Server", we
> could have get of checkboxes, with each option representing a function (i.e.
> not a programme). That way, we can mix and match functions (i.e. be able to
> select multiple checkboxes). For example, someone could choose to have their
> machine set up as both a server and a general-purpose home machine, and then
> Drakx would install the preset programmes for both. Of course, the user must
snip

I think this would be an excellent idea, but I still think it needs to
have better documentation than I have seen in the past. Most users
(note, users, not developers) need a limited number of functions to
accomplish their tasks. Dividing the install into functional areas would
make it much easier to get what is needed, without preventing selection
of pet applications within a group. Most users don't need multiple text
editors, one or two will meet the majority of needs. Likewise with other
programs. A core group with the maintenance utilities needed to make the
system work, like networking, ppp, Drakx, and video tools could be
mandatory then add others on as options.

This is already built into the install, but is cleverly disguised in the
package selection process. Unfortunately, the process is also bloated
with unnecessary tools that most users never need or use and lacks
things needed for a flexible system. My pet deficiencies include some
upgrading tools, 100 dpi fonts, and other usability tools. The present
system also doesn't seem to actually follow the selection list. As an
example my latest install included 4 text editors I had specifically not
selected. I use KEdit for 99% of the text editing I do so I didn't want
CoolEdit, GEdit, or Advance Editor, but I have them anyway.
 
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:59, Bob Currey wrote:
> > I think "dumbing down" the automatic install is needed if it will ever be
> > for the masses.
> >
> > I think added selectivity in the "custom" install based on purpose would be
> > best for the techies that like to play to get at least the right packages
> > for starters.  Like my situation is a "Home Server/Desktop".  The server
> > option removes the GUI entirely.  The other options remove the server
> > capability.  The end result was a month of how-tos and attempts needed to
> > get things running.  Yes, I learned a lot, but most people would have given
> > up long before.
> >
> > It just needs to be a bit more flexible without getting scary.  Those who

 Getting scary is the problem, I spend several hours every week helping
newbies with their initial installs. They are afraid to do try linux
because they worry about the integrity of their systems. Partitioning,
and package selection are daunting tasks for the uninitiated. With
simpler documentation, and a function install process vice the current
three choices the task would be less frightening for at least some of
the new users. Allowing new users to try out a functional system out of
the box will give them tools to expand into other programs. This seems
to me to be a more viable strategy than the current "shotgun" approach.

This isn't "dumbing down" linux, which seems to be a problem with many
of the more experienced users. It actually is a more intelligent
strategy, because it opens the use of linux to more users. Linux may not
be for everyone, but it can only grow if it is useable for more. If
nothing else more users will result in more intellectual power to make
improvements.
-- 
Jim
--
James Mellema, CRNA
--
Linux User # 71650
ICQ #19685870

Re: [newbie] Scanner

[Meph Istopheles]

  Seb,

> does anyone know how to get a Scanmaker e3 plus to work in LM
> 7.2 ? It's parralllel

  Have you tried first, DrakeConf?  I've never heard of this
manufacturer, but if it's there, you're set.  Second would be to
check the Linux &/or sane hardware compatibility docs.

  Like the last scanner question, there are two possibilities.

  Keep in mind though, 1. parallel scanners are slow, & 2. even
if you can find no listing of compatibility, you may be able to
get, at least, ~some~ of the capabilities (particularly the
ability to ~at least~ scan) with drivers for other hardware.  A
scanner is like most any other piece of hardware -- if one driver
doesn't work, there may be another.

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

Re: [newbie] I want MicroEMACS

[David E. Fox]

On Thursday 18 January 2001 12:35, you wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been using MicroEMACS to do all my text editing in both
> Windows and Linux for many years, and I expect I will for
> the rest of my natural life (barring the advent of

I just did a query on www.freshmeat.net for 'microemacs' and it came up with 
one hit.

Look for it via anonymous ftp at 
ftp.ac-grenoble.fr/ge/Office/microemacs-5.03.tgz.

It is likely you'll have to compile it yourself.


> Miark

-- 

David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   on your hard disk.
---

Re: [newbie] Scanner

[Seb Bermingham]

does anyone know how to get a Scanmaker e3 plus to work in LM 7.2 ? It's
parralllel
- Original Message -
From: "Meph Istopheles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Scanner


>
> > I have a UMAX Astra 1220S scanner with a SCSI...
>
>   Man, a few months ago I was looking all over for one of those,
> but the scsi version was nowhere to be found except on e-bay, & I
> missed out on them.
>
> > How can installed ???
>
>   Anyway, at the time I was looking for one, I was running RedHat
> 6.0.  So, I don't know for a fact that setting it up under
> DrakeConf will make it work, but there are drivers for it in
> sane -- the Linux scanner drivers.  I don't have a scanner on my
> lm7.2, but I just did a locate for sane, & it's installed.
>
>   Try through DrakeConf first.  If it won't work, turn to the
> sane docs.  It ~is~ supported;-).
>
>   Meph
>
> --
>   "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
>   -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
>
>

[newbie] lilo config problems

[Sean Kenny]

Here's my lilo.conf file and below is the problem I'm having

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
default=linux
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda7
append=" hdb=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda7
append=" hdb=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

I want to change this to boot into Windows by default, while I'm familairising
myself with Mandrake, and because the kids insist, but whether I do this in
Klilo or edit it myself in emacs and run /sbin/lilo I get the following error
message

warning: device 0x0307 exceeds 1204 cylinder limit
Fatal: geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (2991 > 1023)

Wgat does this mean and how can I get around it?

[newbie] lilo config problems

[Sean Kenny]

Here's my lilo.conf file and below is the problem I'm having

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
default=linux
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hda7
 append=" hdb=ide-scsi"
 read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=failsafe
 root=/dev/hda7
 append=" hdb=ide-scsi failsafe"
 read-only
other=/dev/hda1
 label=windows
 table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
 label=floppy
 unsafe

I want to change this to boot into Windows by default, while I'm familairising
myself with Mandrake, and because the kids insist, but whether I do this in
Klilo or edit it myself in emacs and run /sbin/lilo I get the following error
message

warning: device 0x0307 exceeds 1204 cylinder limit
Fatal: geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (2991 > 1023)

What does this mean and how can I get around it?

Re: [newbie] Unable to see cdrom

[Donald Hinds]

If it is a R/RW CDROM then try /dev/scd0  instead of /dev/cdrom in fstab, but
leave the /mnt/cdrom alone

  Don

>
>
>I installed version 7.2 from cdrom. 
>It is an ide reader only. 
>/etc/fstab includes the line:- 
>/mnt/cdrom
>/mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
>I am trying to use the install cd because it is requested by DrakConf
>when I am trying to install an extra ethernet card, however it fails to
>find the cdrom. 
>If I type:- 
>ls
>/mnt/cdrom 
>I get:- 
>ls:
>/mnt/cdrom: Input/output error 
>If I try to access /Root/mnt/cdrom from Konqueror I get:- 
>unable to
>enter
>file:/mnt/cdrom.
>You do not have access rights to this location.
>I would be very grateful if anyone can help me.
>
>
>
>Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
>Frag Fest LAN Parties
>http://www.fragfest.f2s.com/" eudora="autourl">www.fragfest.f2s.http://www.fragfest.f2s.com/" eudora="autourl">com
>
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[Donald Hinds]

I've had that happen when I couldn't do a clean re-boot. Once it comes up enough
to [ctrl][alt][f2]   then [ctrl][alt][del] to shut down  & re-boot normally
everything is OK.

I wish I knew what causes it so I could fix it. 

Or better, how can I boot into the 'user' screen, where you pick a user and
GUI instead of into Gnome or KDE?

   Don

>On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:27, you wrote:
>> It started yesterday, after there was a power failure.
>>
>> Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4

>> ms Barracuda drives.  The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb.
>>
>> No, it can't be slow!!!   Without running X its horribly slow. 
>> With X, its unbelievably slow.
>>
>> Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!!

>> startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up.  The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later.

>>
>> The drives are barely being hit.  The NIC isn't flashing.  There are no
>> error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I

>> expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just
a
>> station on my internal home LAN).  It seems like pine runs at normal speed

>> (comparatively) once its up.  pico seems to come up fine by itself.
>>
>> Am I at another reload?  Any suggestions how to diagnose?  I shut it down,

>> powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests

>> on the drives, checked the BIOS setup.  Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs

>> fine.  Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason...
>>
>> Help!
>>
>> BobC
>
>Well, you might want to try top or ktop to see the process that is hogging

>the cpu, but most likely it will be less trouble to reload the system (as in

>reinstall).  Something got clobbered (we hope it isn't hardware) which other

>processes are waiting for completion of.
>
>Civileme
>
>
>

Re: [newbie] Scanner

[Meph Istopheles]

> I have a UMAX Astra 1220S scanner with a SCSI...

  Man, a few months ago I was looking all over for one of those,
but the scsi version was nowhere to be found except on e-bay, & I
missed out on them.

> How can installed ???

  Anyway, at the time I was looking for one, I was running RedHat
6.0.  So, I don't know for a fact that setting it up under
DrakeConf will make it work, but there are drivers for it in
sane -- the Linux scanner drivers.  I don't have a scanner on my
lm7.2, but I just did a locate for sane, & it's installed.

  Try through DrakeConf first.  If it won't work, turn to the
sane docs.  It ~is~ supported;-).

  Meph

-- 
  "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

[newbie] Unable to see cdrom

[Mike Baker]

I installed version 7.2 from cdrom. 
It is an ide reader only. 
/etc/fstab includes the line:- 
/mnt/cdrom
/mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
I am trying to use the install cd because it is requested by DrakConf
when I am trying to install an extra ethernet card, however it fails to
find the cdrom. 
If I type:- 
ls
/mnt/cdrom 
I get:- 
ls:
/mnt/cdrom: Input/output error 
If I try to access /Root/mnt/cdrom from Konqueror I get:- 
unable to
enter
file:/mnt/cdrom.
You do not have access rights to this location.
I would be very grateful if anyone can help me.



Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG]
Frag Fest LAN Parties
www.fragfest.f2s.com

[newbie] Pegasus driver with dlink usb ethernet

[Wilson]

I need help getting the pegasus driver to work with my dlink usb ethernet.  I can get 
it to load and it shows in my router but I can't seem to get networking to use it.

What do I need to do about this message:
# modprobe -c pegasus
Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/modules.dep

Wilson

[newbie] BitchX

[Emiliano Ogando]

Hey...

I have installed BitchX, but I don´t know how to run it...
I can´t find where is it...

[newbie] Scanner

[Emiliano Ogando]

My PC is a PIII 550 with 64MB ram and I am running Mandrake 7.2

I have a UMAX Astra 1220S scanner with a SCSI...

How can installed ???

[newbie] How to install ppp ???

[Emiliano Ogando]

How can i install ppp 
Please an easy way...

Thank...

Re: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[civileme]

On Sunday 21 January 2001 16:27, you wrote:
> It started yesterday, after there was a power failure.
>
> Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4
> ms Barracuda drives.  The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb.
>
> No, it can't be slow!!!   Without running X its horribly slow. 
> With X, its unbelievably slow.
>
> Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!!
> startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up.  The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later.
>
> The drives are barely being hit.  The NIC isn't flashing.  There are no
> error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I
> expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a
> station on my internal home LAN).  It seems like pine runs at normal speed
> (comparatively) once its up.  pico seems to come up fine by itself.
>
> Am I at another reload?  Any suggestions how to diagnose?  I shut it down,
> powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests
> on the drives, checked the BIOS setup.  Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs
> fine.  Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason...
>
> Help!
>
> BobC

Well, you might want to try top or ktop to see the process that is hogging 
the cpu, but most likely it will be less trouble to reload the system (as in 
reinstall).  Something got clobbered (we hope it isn't hardware) which other 
processes are waiting for completion of.

Civileme

RE: [newbie] linux-win lan thoughts.......

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Weird.

There is no hardware reason for this.

I can only speculate that somehow the Windows ethernet interfaces are
getting configuration information from the Linux box, which in turn is
erroneous.

This would only happen with Windows set to utilize DHCP... but in this case
this doesn't make any sense.

You've got me on this one.

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] linux-win lan thoughts...


At 08:38 21.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Normally this occurs because the BIOS is allocating some resource to
another
>device during boot up, that the card wants to use.
>
>When Windows takes over it re-inits PCI & PNP devices according to it's own
>internal configuration tables.
>
>Thus when you get to Linux after a Windows boot, Linux already sees the
card
>as configured to an extent.


erm...u dont understand me right...im speaking of 2 (!)
computers..not 1 dual booting between linux and win, but my 2 lan
computers..1 that runs linux..1 that runs win..and if i power
up the one that runs windows BEFORE i power up the one that runs linux
> ping between them works .
if i power up the linux computer first and then the windows client >
ping timeouts between them.

u got me right ?

[newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow

[Bob Currey]

It started yesterday, after there was a power failure.

Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms
Barracuda drives.  The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb.

No, it can't be slow!!!   Without running X its horribly slow.  With
X, its unbelievably slow.

Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!!
startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up.  The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later.

The drives are barely being hit.  The NIC isn't flashing.  There are no
error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I
expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a
station on my internal home LAN).  It seems like pine runs at normal speed
(comparatively) once its up.  pico seems to come up fine by itself.

Am I at another reload?  Any suggestions how to diagnose?  I shut it down,
powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests
on the drives, checked the BIOS setup.  Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs
fine.  Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason...

Help!

BobC

RE: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux

[Bob Currey]

Yes, I like it your way.  The main idea was to make it easy to get a GOOD
install from the get go with the capabilities needed.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 4:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; civileme
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux


This has just given me an idea. Instead of just having some preset
installation configurations like "Workstation", "Development and "Server",
we
could have get of checkboxes, with each option representing a function (i.e.
not a programme). That way, we can mix and match functions (i.e. be able to
select multiple checkboxes). For example, someone could choose to have their
machine set up as both a server and a general-purpose home machine, and then
Drakx would install the preset programmes for both. Of course, the user must
have the option of being able to fine-tune the programmes to be installed.
We
could even have subgroups, where the user can choose to install certain
functions of a main group. For example, a user could choose the Workstation
install, but not install multimedia players (e.g. MP3 and video players
along
with their associated libraries). This could be useful for office
environments that need small and clean installations on each machine (it
also
can be used by employers to stop workers from watching movies or playing
games during office hours :-) ).


On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:59, Bob Currey wrote:
> I think "dumbing down" the automatic install is needed if it will ever be
> for the masses.
>
> I think added selectivity in the "custom" install based on purpose would
be
> best for the techies that like to play to get at least the right packages
> for starters.  Like my situation is a "Home Server/Desktop".  The server
> option removes the GUI entirely.  The other options remove the server
> capability.  The end result was a month of how-tos and attempts needed to
> get things running.  Yes, I learned a lot, but most people would have
given
> up long before.
>
> It just needs to be a bit more flexible without getting scary.  Those who
> want to see scary can click "expert".  I would have tried "yes" for shadow
> passwords, but figured they were trying to impress on me how little II
> really knew, and figured my likelihood of sucess at approx. nil, given
> that. I remember seeing a contest where C programmers took pride in making
> their programs unreadable a few years back.  I'm not a glutton for
> punishment.
>
> BobC

Re: [newbie] win-unix lan not working any more ;(

[civileme]

On Saturday 20 January 2001 12:43, you wrote:
> hi again.
>
> it seems that something is going really wrong with my little win-unix
> lan.yesterday it worked.today i powered up and it didnt work any
> more. i issued a ifdown eth0 and then a ifup eth0 and got :
>
> SIOCADDRT: network unreachable
>
> like before i cant ping either of the machines, and on the nic of my
> windows machine now a little green light is shining permanently.i didnt
> notice that before, does this indicate a failure in the init of the nic
> ?... windows device manager shows that the nic is working properly.
> argh...this is really annoying.
>
> would be happy with any advice u can give on this mystery..
>
> --quay
>

In cases like this it is best to check the simple things first.

Your cabling--try unplugging and replugging it.  If you suddenly start 
working, replace the cables.

(An inveterate cable replacer)
Civileme

> --
> -Quaylar-
> Icq# 30932448
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Re: [newbie] RPM error

[Tom Brinkman]

On Sunday 21 January 2001 07:47 am, David wrote:
> I downloaded the mandrake kernel4.0 but when i tried to install it i
> got "only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this
> version of RPM" as an error... have i downloaded the wrong version or
> is something else wrong ??

What version of rpm?rpm -qa | grep -i rpm
current is  rpm-3.0.5-27mdk, you have an older version ?

What kernel rpm and where did you get it from?
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

RE: [newbie] linux-win lan thoughts.......

[Quaylar]

At 08:38 21.01.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Normally this occurs because the BIOS is allocating some resource to another
>device during boot up, that the card wants to use.
>
>When Windows takes over it re-inits PCI & PNP devices according to it's own
>internal configuration tables.
>
>Thus when you get to Linux after a Windows boot, Linux already sees the card
>as configured to an extent.


erm...u dont understand me right...im speaking of 2 (!) 
computers..not 1 dual booting between linux and win, but my 2 lan 
computers..1 that runs linux..1 that runs win..and if i power 
up the one that runs windows BEFORE i power up the one that runs linux 
> ping between them works .
if i power up the linux computer first and then the windows client > 
ping timeouts between them.

u got me right ?

Re: [newbie] Partitions and drive letters

[civileme]

On Friday 19 January 2001 18:09, you wrote:
> Thanks for the response, Fred;
>
> I'm glad to hear that Windows won't see those Linux partitions.  From the
> Linux-Mandrake web site tutorial on partitioning, I read that there's a
> partitioning option called "Use free space on the Windows Partition" and
> explains:

Loss isn't inevitable with windows partitions--they are rather easy to 
resize.  Ext2 (Linux Native) partitions are much more code-heavy to resize 
and diskdrake doesn't have the codespace to deal with them, so in that case, 
loss is inevitable.

If the four partitions on your disk are all primary partitions, then you are 
out of partition space and cannot add ANY partitions without deleting one and 
remaking it as extended.  
>
> "Before resizing a hard drive which
> alreadycontains Windows, it is strongly
> recommended  that you run ScanDisk and Disk
> Defragmenter   from within Windows on the
> drive. And as always, back-up
> data you cannot afford to lose before
> partitioning drives."
>
> While it does warn that loss is possible, it doesn't iterate that it's
> inevitable.  Of course, I shall backup that data.  There is also an
> animated illustration of the partitioning in a graphical image that can be
> seen here:
>
>  "This animations shows
> how to quickly and
> easily partition a
> drive thatalready
> contains
> MS-Windows
> using
> DiskDrake."
>
> es/custom6.php3>
>
> Is it certain that Windows will be wiped out of it's share of my old
> partition?  I have used Partition Magic but don't remember that I had to
> re-install anything then, either, as you imply.
>
> Any other feedback shall be warmly received,
>
> Dave
>
> Fred Schroeder wrote:
> > Windows won't see any of the Linux partions.
> > You do know however, that unless you are using Partition Magic or
> > something like that, .. and maybe even then, you will lose all of the
> > data on the disk when you repartion.  So make certain you have back-ups.
> > Fred
> >
> > > I have a single drive partitioned into 4 with my current OS (Win98se)
> > > residing in C:\.  Among the options in the install is one to take over
> >
> > part
> >
> > > of C:\ for Linux.  If I do this, what will happen to the assigned drive
> > > letters of D:\, E:\ and F:\, CD-ROM and CD-RW; will it reassign them
> > > with new drive letters?

[newbie] RPM error

[David]

I downloaded the mandrake kernel4.0 but when i tried to install it i got
"only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version of RPM"
as an error... have i downloaded the wrong version or is something else wrong ??

RE: [newbie] Configuring network

[Jose M. Sanchez]

2. I still cannot interconnect my NT box with Linux PC. I edited smb.conf
file to add shares, setup security = USER etc. (like in the Reference
Manual). I can see the Linux host in my workgroup, but every time I try to
access it I get an error message "The network path not found". Also, how to
add Windows shares under Linux? Through KDE Control Center I added my NT
shares, but they don't appear in "Windows Shares" under smb:/

---

This occurs because although Samba is broadcasting the shares which it has
available, NT cannot resolve the IP address of the hosts by that name.

I.E. which IP address belongs to \\yourcomputer\sharename ?

You could fix this by setting up Samba to be a Wins server with priority
given to DNS for hostname resolution. You point your NT box to the Linux one
as a Wins server.

You also must then set up your "resolver" properly.

As it is, your NT and Linux box do not know how to resolve the names of the
computers to anything meaningful.

One quick way to do this is use the lmhosts & hosts under NT, and /etc/hosts
under Linux.

This is all covered in the Samba debugging faqs.

-JMS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [newbie] linux-win lan thoughts.......

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Normally this occurs because the BIOS is allocating some resource to another
device during boot up, that the card wants to use.

When Windows takes over it re-inits PCI & PNP devices according to it's own
internal configuration tables.

Thus when you get to Linux after a Windows boot, Linux already sees the card
as configured to an extent.

I suppose you can overcome this with parameters to the ethernet card modules
you are using... but with as much trouble as you've been having with this
I'd have long ago switch LAN cards...

-JMS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] linux-win lan thoughts...


hiho...

as u will possibly know from various earlier posts i am trying to connect a
linux and a win machine through thin ethernet.
up to now i was having the problem that the 2 machines were not able to
ping each other although everything was set right on both sides..

now i found a posting on deja where a guy described the same problem, he
was stating that his lan was working IF:

he first powered up the win machine and THEN the linux machine..

so i tried this and it really worked, the lan works when i am first
powering up the win machine and then the linux machine, vice versa i get
ping timeouts..

has anyone of u already experienced this or can anyone give any hints on
this phenomenon ?...

any thoughts will be appreciated..;)

--quay



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-Quaylar-
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[newbie] linux-win lan thoughts.......

[Quaylar]

hiho...

as u will possibly know from various earlier posts i am trying to connect a 
linux and a win machine through thin ethernet.
up to now i was having the problem that the 2 machines were not able to 
ping each other although everything was set right on both sides..

now i found a posting on deja where a guy described the same problem, he 
was stating that his lan was working IF:

he first powered up the win machine and THEN the linux machine..

so i tried this and it really worked, the lan works when i am first 
powering up the win machine and then the linux machine, vice versa i get 
ping timeouts..

has anyone of u already experienced this or can anyone give any hints on 
this phenomenon ?...

any thoughts will be appreciated..;)

--quay



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Icq# 30932448
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

SV: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel

[Blomquist, Niklas]

I have test to install the new kernel with the 2.4.5-5mdkrypto rpm, but I've
got error:
error: failed dependencies:
kernel >= 2.3 conflicts with kdeaddutils-2.0-3.mdk

Any suggestions?

/Nik

> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 21 januari 2001 00:06
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: Re: [newbie] 2.4 Kernel
> 
> 
> On Saturday 20 January 2001 01:04 pm, DJW wrote:
> > As I installed Linux to learn it, I would like to try and 
> install the
> > new 2.4 kernel everyone is talking about.  My question is, 
> where do I
> > get it.  In other words, is there a special Mandrake 2.4 kernel I
> > should compile and use, or will any 2.4 kernel do?
> > I see there are several sources available to download from.
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Don
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>It depends. Specially if like me, you have ReiserFS.  I prefer 
> Mandrake kernels because they're already patched to support Mandrake 
> specific features.  I've never seen any performance increase with 
> custom compiled kernels either. Mandrake prebuilts are just as good, 
> just as fast. Still I've tried many 2.4.0's from source and prebuilt, 
> Mandrake and otherwise.  They all boot fine and everything works ... 
> except supermount. I've heard on the cooker list that 2.4.1-pre9 will 
> work with a supermount-0.5.3-2.4.1-pre9.gz patch, and all 2.4.1-pre8 
> and higher support ReiserFS.  Mandrake kernels have supported 
> Rfs for a 
> long time, vanilla source 2.4.0 kernels will if patched.  
> 
> I'd suggest you try a Mandrake prebuilt. It installs to it's own 
> dir in /usr/src/, and completely sets itself up, lilo changes 
> included, 
> and doesn't interfere in any way with other kernel files. It 
> will be an 
> option when you reboot, your current default will be 
> unchanged. Latest 
> is   kernel-2.4.0-5mdk.i586.rpm   on any cooker mirror.  Last one I 
> tried is -4mdk, and it correctly set itself up in lilo.conf 
> except for 
> adding my ide-scsi append statement.  So check lilo.conf before you 
> reboot.
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
> 

[newbie] Setting a mail server

[Mazen]

Hi all,

I am planning to use my linux machine as a mail server.
Does any one know a good site explains how to configure it?

Thanks
Mazen

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[newbie] XFree86 4.0.2

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

I am currently using XFree86 4.0.1, which I have had no trouble with 
whatsoever. Is there any reason why I should upgrade to the new version 
4.0.2? I do not need anti-aliased text and my video card (Matrox Millennium 
II) is already well supported in 4.0.1.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
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