RE: [newbie] MandrakeUpdate troubles

2001-02-20 Thread Franki

don't know what is different with my system, but I updated linuxconf with no
probs using mandrakeupdate,, went flawlessly..

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Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2001 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] MandrakeUpdate troubles


Does the same thing to me with the same packages. I went to rpmfind.net
and downloaded the rpms from there.

ed wrote:

> Does anybody here have an answer to my problem I updated almost everything
> with MandrakeUpdate but when I try to update glibc,linuxconf,ghostscript
or
> cups I just get error RPM not signed or It just freezes, I know my
firewall
> has port 21 open to recieve data only because I was able to update almost
> everything else. Ive tried everything from turning off my firewall while I
try
> to download the updates but still just freezes up MandrakeUpdate any help
> would be great thanks too all who reply. running mandrake 7.2
>
> 
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1






RE: [newbie] Installation Recommendations

2001-02-20 Thread Franki

I have 128 mb of ram, and specified 200mb for the swap space,,,

is that sufficient???

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Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2001 3:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation Recommendations


that's good recomendations, I would just like to add that the size of
/swap should not necessarily be fixed at 2xram.  I have 384M of ram,
linux hardly ever hits my /swap.  There is no reason to dedicate 768M of
hard drive space in that situation.  Even when I had 256 I only used a
128M /swap cause linux barely ever hit it even then.


Abe





RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Franki

I had x running on a PPro200 with 8 mb of ram (it was RH6.2) and it worked,
but only just and it was SOOO slow...

go console, or get more ram,, I think you will not find the results of X all
that usable until you get 32mb



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Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2001 7:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux for 486


Geez, I doubt you could run a gui on that.  You should stick with a pure
console.
-s

On Wednesday 21 February 2001 08:58 am, you wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
> procesor of 50 MHz.
>
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
> station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
>
> Thanks for all.
>
> --
> Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
> Ingeniero de Sistemas
> Departamento de Informática
> Universidad de San Buenaventura
> Medellín - Colombia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos





[newbie] Ran KDE 2.1 twice; now X is dead

2001-02-20 Thread Miark

Hi all,

I updated from KDE 2.0 to 2.0.1. It just didn't work, so I
figured I may as well try 2.1. So I did, and it worked
great. But after running 2.1 twice, X is dead (which may
very well be a coincidence). I can't run KDE, Gnome, or
anything else. This is what the tail end of the log says:

---
 The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
 > Error:Can't find file "pc" for symbols include
 >   Exiting
 >   Abandoning symbols file "default"
 Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
 Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
 Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from
 list!

 Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'

 When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please
 send the full server output, not just the last messages.
 This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".

 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server
 shutdown).
---

I tried re-installing XFree86 4.0.1 and all its fonts, but
to no avail. Perhaps it's a keyboard problem...? I dunno.
Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Miark






[newbie] microsoft has it's own mobile phone (off topic)

2001-02-20 Thread Anthony Daniell

http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?/adeskb/adt0221/2688007:13894280

Here is a good one to look at micro$ofts new mobile phones

Regards Anthony Daniell





[newbie] sound card thinks its a CDrom

2001-02-20 Thread UDDANE

hi,

I installed Mandrake 7.2 onto 10 G of my hard drive. I have an HP 933 Mhz 40 
gig hard drive ( 30 Win me and 10 Linux Mandrake)  Everything went well (for 
the most part)
I went into Drake conf to get my modem and sound card running and happened to 
notice that I have 3 Cd devces. One is the DVD player ( samsung ) and the 
other two are the CDRW. So I check the CDRWs and find out that one seems to 
be my sound card. Has this ever happened to anyone else? and how do you 
correct it?

I'm also having trouble finding the drivers for my Convexant soft 56k modem 
(rockwell). Yes I know it's a Win modem! If I can't get it running I have a 
spare internal Texas Instruments 56K, (is that supported?) I can install.

I've been working trying to get up and running for about 3 weeks. My 
boyfriend has everything running on his Viao laptop except the modem. I want 
to be up and running soon so we can start working on a server.
Any help would be great.

marianne




[newbie] Install problem

2001-02-20 Thread Jim Lyons

I've just managed to download linux-mandrake from the web and install it on
a linux partition on my 300 MHz AMD K6-2 machine.  The installation
appeared to go well but i couldn't make a boot floppy (mkdisk failed) and
when I press ENTER at the end of the installation the computer starts to
reboot and then hangs with the floppy drive running.  On the screen it says
"Stage 1".  I've tried installing the boot record on the HD and also on the
floppy but the result is the smae either way.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Jim Lyons





Re: [newbie] Kernel panic on booting a compiled 2.4.1 kernel

2001-02-20 Thread Salane King

On Tuesday 20 February 2001 07:44 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> I have finally managed to compile a 2.4.1 kernel for myself.
> Unfortunately, whenever I try to boot with it the kernel will panic,
> giving the error "kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 3:01".
> What could this be and how may I fix it? I have no problems booting
> with stock standard Mandrake kernels (I use 2.2.17-21mdk). All my
> Linux partitions are ReiserFS, and I have compiled ReiserFS support as
> a module.
>
> Thanks in advance.
either compile reiserfs in (not as a module) or do a mkinitrd to preload your 
modules reiserfs and loop both i think must be in the kernel to do this
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Re: [newbie] Installation Recommendations

2001-02-20 Thread abe

that's good recomendations, I would just like to add that the size of
/swap should not necessarily be fixed at 2xram.  I have 384M of ram,
linux hardly ever hits my /swap.  There is no reason to dedicate 768M of
hard drive space in that situation.  Even when I had 256 I only used a
128M /swap cause linux barely ever hit it even then.


Abe




[newbie] a few questions to 7.2

2001-02-20 Thread Quaylar

hi all !

i just decided to do a fresh install of LM 7.2, really nice - it found all 
my hardware already in the installation procedure.
so far its pretty cool..
but there are a few things i would like to know :

1) how do i get rid of the graphical boot procedure ?.i would like to 
have my old "terminal style" bootup back.
2) i know the config tools : printtool/setuptool/sndconfig and the various 
X configs, but is (or are) there any new config tools i should have to know 
about ?
3) my isdn card was properly recognized, i loaded the hisax module manually 
and it went pretty fine without any failure, after editing my config files 
for the isdn connection , i tried to bring up the isdn interface manually 
by "ifup ippp0" and got following error :

"/dev/isdnctrl : no such device"

the point is.there is a /dev/isdnctrl file...
so whats going on here ?...do i have a broken isdn pakage ?
i know that the isdn rpms that came with 7.1 were broken.but are these 
too ?
has anybody experienced the same problem ?

thx for any help...

--quay

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Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?

2001-02-20 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

E2fsck is more like Windos Scandisc than Defrag, in that it finds and 
fixes errors (it does not defragment). Linux filesystems (namely Ext2, 
Ext3 and ReiserFS) are structured so that defragmenting is totally 
unnecessary. When you run e2fsck on an Ext2 partition, it gives its 
fragmentation status as a percentage (non-contiguous files). I have 
never had more than 3% with this. With FAT32 or NTFS this level of 
defragmentation is nearly impossible to achieve, and even if it was it 
would not be held for very long.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 03:05, Anthony wrote:
> The command is e2fsck. Generally there's no need to invoke this, as
> most Linux distributions are set up to run every 20th boot up or so.
> Check the man pages on how to use it.
>
> Anthony
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux?
> >
> > -
> > Windows is a virus.
> > -

-- 
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"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




[newbie] Kernel panic on booting a compiled 2.4.1 kernel

2001-02-20 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

I have finally managed to compile a 2.4.1 kernel for myself. 
Unfortunately, whenever I try to boot with it the kernel will panic, 
giving the error "kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 3:01". 
What could this be and how may I fix it? I have no problems booting 
with stock standard Mandrake kernels (I use 2.2.17-21mdk). All my 
Linux partitions are ReiserFS, and I have compiled ReiserFS support as 
a module.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-20 Thread Michael Scottaline


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Can you post the contents of /etc/resolv.conf ?
> >Mike
> >--
> 
>  Yes.  /etc/resolv.conf included only two lines, and those are:
> 
> search localdomain
> nameserver 212.109.1.50
> 
> 
>  The "nameserver" line contains the correct address to my DNS.  Perhaps
> it shouldn't read "search localdomain" though?  Could this be the problem?
==
Yes, yes!  Change the search line to 
search 

Also, see if you can find a second dns# and add a second "nameserver" line
HTH,
Mike
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Re: [newbie] Netscape question

2001-02-20 Thread Altoine B.

Michael wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm using Mandrake 7.1 and shortly after install, Netscape stopped
> rendering document and table backgrounds/colors.  It works fine, it's
> just that I'm working on a site and it would be nice to see the outcome.
> 
> Can I just reinstall it from the RPM's and if so, do I need to delete
> the old install first?  (I ran into this problem on another package that
> had to be re-installed.) I also use Netscape mail and have a lot of info
> in there I don't want to lose.  I think my NS version is 4.73  Also, if
> I need to re-install, can I grab a later version such as 4.75?  A friend
> is using that version and it renders fonts much better.
> 
> TIA

Excuse me if I may be insulting your intelligence, but did you hit
"Reload"? I have to do that everytime I implement changes. The other
problem may be that something in your Page code is not "marked" right.
Like  or 


You get the idea. I had that problem alot as well (in the
beginning)

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RE: [newbie] a few questions to 7.2

2001-02-20 Thread Daryl Johnson



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quaylar
> Sent: 20 February 2001 19:03
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] a few questions to 7.2


> 1) how do i get rid of the graphical boot procedure ?.i would like to
> have my old "terminal style" bootup back.

vi /etc/inittab

then change

id:5:initdefault:

to

id:3:initdefault

should do it I think.  At least you can give it a go and if it doesn't work
then change it back.

[...]

regards

Daryl





[newbie] HP 7200 CDRW

2001-02-20 Thread Scott Faulkner


I have Mandrake 7.2 installed and have an HP 7200 cdrw everything works
perfectly and I understand that in order for the cdrw to work correctly linux 
has to emulate the cdrw as a scsi device, but the problem is when ever I
use an app like package managment I see dual entrys same applies for 
reading directoys from the cdrw how can this be corrected??



TIA.

Scott Faulkner




Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking

2001-02-20 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> Alan:
> Yes, it is in good old plain honest-to-goodness non-html
> readable-everywhere format, just like it's supposed to be.
> -- cmg
>
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > I just went to a WinME box and configured Outlook
> > Express. There were 3 settings in the 'send' tab to tell
> > it to send in 'plain text'.  Is this in 'plain text'? 
> > Hope so.

Carrollthanks :-)  This was actually intended for 
carjam/goldenpi who said he (they?) was (were) stuck with 
using HTML because he was stuck with using Outlook Express.

So I tried Outlook Express out to see if it would output 
messages in plain text and to report what settings I used.

Thanks again.
-- 
Alan




Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Wednesday 21 February 2001 15:58, you wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM
> and a procesor of 50 MHz.
>
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service? 
> what station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
>
> Thanks for all.
>
> --
> Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
> Ingeniero de Sistemas
> Departamento de Informática
> Universidad de San Buenaventura
> Medellín - Colombia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos

I've got 'mulinux 'running on my 486 with Xwindows added . It's 
pretty spartan but does the job very well. 16 MB of ram is the 
luxury version though :o)
There are quite a few mindisstribs. running around, take your time 
to check them out.
www.linuxlinks.com goes a long way.
 good hunting, 


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Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking

2001-02-20 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Alan:
Yes, it is in good old plain honest-to-goodness non-html
readable-everywhere format, just like it's supposed to be.
-- cmg


Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> I just went to a WinME box and configured Outlook Express.
> There were 3 settings in the 'send' tab to tell it to send in
> 'plain text'.  Is this in 'plain text'?  Hope so.




Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?

2001-02-20 Thread bascule

this seems like an opportune moment to ask about defragging of win partitions 
in linux, after encoding a  lot of mp3s in linux simultaneously i noticed 
that when in win and running defrag that my mp3 partition (vfat) was majorly 
defragmented in a fashion that suggested that each successive cluster 
belonged to a different file than the one before, after defragging i got far 
fewer hiccups in playing mp3s both in win and linux esp. when doing other 
disk intensive activity, 

the point - is there a way to manually defrag a win drive from linux, i'm 
guessing that fsck doesn't take care of this?

bascule


On Tuesday 20 February 2001 10:33 pm, Romanator wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux?
> > 
> > -
> > Windows is a virus.
> > -
> > 
> 
> Defrag is not need in Linux
> 
> -- 
> Roman
> Registered Linux User #179293
> The Tux email thread creator




Re: [newbie] the origin's of bash?

2001-02-20 Thread Gary

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 03:01:25PM -0600 or thereabouts, Mark Johnson wrote:
> Does anyone know where bash came from?

Like most anything in Linux, it stems from UNIX.  The Bourne shell was, I
believe the first shell, (window to the kernel) 30 years ago.  This shell
was revised over the years, and it was spun off with enhanced functionality
into Bash, which stands for Bourne again shell.  There are several shells
for use, i.e. Csh (sea shell), in which shell scripts are written in C,
Ksh- Korn shell, Ash, etc... Each has their own advantages and way of
script writing, etc..  

HTH


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Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread s

Geez, I doubt you could run a gui on that.  You should stick with a pure 
console.
-s

On Wednesday 21 February 2001 08:58 am, you wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
> procesor of 50 MHz.
>
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
> station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
>
> Thanks for all.
>
> --
> Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
> Ingeniero de Sistemas
> Departamento de Informática
> Universidad de San Buenaventura
> Medellín - Colombia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos




Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Evan Flynn

don't even bother running X, you would need more memory (24meg maybe)
- Original Message -
From: "Édison Andrés" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux for 486


if would had 8MB ???

Ingo Bauer escribió:

> h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .
>
> Ingo
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   Édison Andrés [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: Linux Novatos
> Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486
>
> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
> procesor of 50 MHz.
>
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
> station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
>
> Thanks for all.
>
> --
> Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
> Ingeniero de Sistemas
> Departamento de Informática
> Universidad de San Buenaventura
> Medellín - Colombia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos
>
>   
>
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>Encoding: base64

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Re: [newbie] I want to burn Audio CD from MP3

2001-02-20 Thread Anthony

Just checking, but you did convert the .mp3's to .wav's right? 

>
> I having some problem to burn Audio CD from MP3.
>
> I can burn normal CD, but If I try to brun Audio CD (with gcompust) it
> refuse to pad the CD. If I use Gnome Toaster, i'll get the error:
>
> cdrecord: Track 1 has unknown length
> cdrecrod: Cannot open new session
>
> Please help!!
>
> Regards
> Niklas

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[newbie] Execute Programs

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

Hello everybody.

I have a problem with my linux.  When I try execute a program make in C
or Perl (I not probe with others languages), the shell shows: "command
not found".

The files have permission for executable (755) and when I execute like a
cgi programs, the navigator shows the result without problems.

I think (In the case of Perl) that i need put the Perl like a Enviroment
Variable, but I don't know how can i do this.

Any idea?

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Medellín - Colombia
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Re: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd

2001-02-20 Thread goldenpi

raw device? Explain? I thought it worked from the moounted directory, does
it need a symlink or something?

- Original Message -
From: abe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd


> I just got Xine working last night.  I had to use a raw device for it.
> Check out the  FAQ on thier website for how to do it.  Good luck!
>
>
>
> Abe
>
> goldenpi wrote:
> >
> > I got it. Unfortunatly, it doesn't work. I put in a dvd, press the
control
> > on xine labeled dvd, and nothing happens. If I try for long enough xine
> > gives a segmentation fault and I get another core dump. I think the
problem
> > is related to either my dvd being slaved to my cdrw or my sound card not
> > being set up. But xine runs at least.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 3:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd
> >
> > > For dvd play, better use xine (http://xine.sourceforge.net) and the
css
> > > plugin.Yesterday I wached "The lost world" fine!
> > >
> > > Francisco Alcaraz
> > > Murcia (Spain)
> > >
> > > - Mensaje Original -
> > > Remitente: Paul Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Fecha: Domingo, Febrero 18, 2001 4:01 pm
> > > Asunto: RE: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd
> > >
> > > > Haven't tried it yet.  But this is supposed to play DVD's on linux:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.linuxvideo.org/news/
> > > >
> > > > -Paul R
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of carjam
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:30 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I got linux going on my good computer at last. Dad will probably
> > > > kill me
> > > > when he finds out where the 4 gig of his drive has gone through :(
> > > >
> > > > A few minor problems through.
> > > >
> > > > I have a winmodem. I saw someone give a link a while ago to a page
> > > > whichgives instruction for getting some winmodems to work. Where is
> > > > it?
> > > > The cdrw. Again, people keep mantioning a page which gives
> > > > instructions but
> > > > I dont know where it is.
> > > >
> > > > the dvd drive. Does linux play dvds? I cant seem to find a dvd
> > > > player rpm on
> > > > any of my 3 linux cds. Are there any available? Or does the css
> > > > code stop
> > > > them?
> > > >
> > > > The sound card. Sndconfig detects it but says it is not supported.
> > > > I tried
> > > > sndconfig --noprobe and used every setting I thought might work but
> > > > nothingwill go. I tried upgradeing alsa (is that the right package)
> > > > but it says I
> > > > need a newer kernel and I have no idea how to upgrade it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>





Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread eryl

I've run Caldera (can't remember the version) on a 486/25 with a 640Meg
harddrive and 16 meg of ram.  KDE worked o.k. for me, and the system was
faster than 3.1 and way faster than W95 (which I once tried on that
machine).  

With 4meg of ram, I just don't think you'll be able to run any
windowmanager except maybe blackbox or windowmaker.  KDE and Gnome are
out of the question.  



Édison Andrés wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody.
> 
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
> procesor of 50 MHz.
> 
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
> station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
> 
> Thanks for all.
> 
> --




Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

I plane to put this machine like a workstation or like a terminal, but I not
sure if this is possible.

I think that the Java Virtual Machine can run in this Operating System.

** off topic **
Anybody knows how can I work with sockets with Turbo C++ for DOS?

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Rodr=EDguez?= escribió:

> There are some distribution specially dsigned for older systems.  These
> include:
>
> Tiny Linux http://tiny.seul.org/
> Hal 91 http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm
> Peanut Linux http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/
> MuLinux http://sunsite.dk/mulinux/
> ZipHam http://perso.libertysurf.fr/f5nlg
> DLX http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h93/h9301726/dlx.html
> Grey Cat Linux http://www.intelcities.com/Coder_Canyon/theking/
>
> Kde and Gnome are going to require (arguably) at least 32mb.  Someone please
> correct me on this, I'm not sure how much is required or recommended.  With
> 4 or 8 megs, you are much better off running in text only mode or running a
> lighter window manager such as:
>
> Window Maker http://www.windowmaker.org/
> or Black Box http://blackbox.alug.org/
>
> Check out this page on Window Managers for X http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ to
> get an idea of the options.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -Paul R
>
> PS WHat are you planning to use this system for?
> I have an old 386sx I'm going to be trying to use as a firewall/router soon.
> Should be fun (and I'm probably going to need some help from the list when I
> get started).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ingo Bauer
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:49 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux for 486
>
> h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
> little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .
>
> Ingo
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   Édison Andrés [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: Linux Novatos
> Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486
>
> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
> procesor of 50 MHz.
>
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
> station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
>
> Thanks for all.
>
> --
> Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
> Ingeniero de Sistemas
> Departamento de Informática
> Universidad de San Buenaventura
> Medellín - Colombia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos
>
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Re: [newbie] sound card thinks its a CDrom

2001-02-20 Thread eryl

Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:

> I have a winmodem in my laptop and I have reached it to telephon, but it
> doesn't work well (this was made using lucent modules). I think that the
> better solution is buy a cheap external modem, they work fine; try with your
> Texas external modem.
> 
> I hope this could help you.
> 
> Francisco Alcaraz
> Murcia (Spain)
> 

Francisco, if you can connect, but it takes several tries, you might try
changing your modem initialization string.  I have a Cirrus Logic chip
that would connect, but often taking several redials.  I looked up
"modem initialization string" in Google, and visited several sites that
had several different strings listed for my modem.  I started trying
them until I found one that really works.  Now I can connect first time,
every time.  Worth a try!




Re: [newbie] StarOffice 5.2

2001-02-20 Thread Michael O'Henly

On Tuesday 20 February 2001 12:12, Lúcio Costa wrote:
> I do the installation (root mode), but I can't use this program as "other
> user".
> What can I Do to use this like simple user ?
>
> Lúcio Costa

Star Office should be installed with the user account --not root. (Actually, 
I believe root can do a "network install" which also works, but the simplest 
way would be to uninstall and reinstall as the user.)

M.

-- 
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TENZO Design




Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking

2001-02-20 Thread Michael Leone

> I will add only one thing. Worms are not written in C, particularly the
> windoze versions. The difference between a virus and a worm is this:
> A virus has a "leg" to stand-on, self-executing. A worm do not, it needs
> to use the programming language of the host system. Javascripts and
> Visual Basic Scripts are "worm" incubators. That is, the host "feeds"
> and "nurtures" the script. I hope I am coming through clear as I am
> suddenly hungry. If you need further clarification on the difference
> between a "worm" and a "virus", I can dig up my bookmarks or rummage
> through one of my old magazine articles and post it to this list. I hope
> that won't be neccessary, well at least until I have eaten first!
> Laters.

Recall the first well-known worm - the Morris Worm, in 1988
(http://www.software.com.pl/newarchive/misc/Worm/darbyt/pages/worm.html).
Neither JavaScript, VB Script nor HTML existed at the time, yet a worm it
still was.

Which is beside the point that that Tom was making about how "all HTML mail
is bad and a security risk".







[newbie] Staroffice & JBuilder crashes M-L 7.2

2001-02-20 Thread mongenix

I just installed ML7.2 and have attempted to install both Star Office
and JBuilder.
Star Office gives me an error during installation and Jbuilder crashes
X. Anyone else have similar problems?








[newbie] StarOffice 5.2

2001-02-20 Thread Lúcio Costa

I do the installation (root mode), but I can't use this program as "other 
user".
What can I Do to use this like simple user ?

Lúcio Costa


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Re: [newbie] Creating Html documents

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

StarOfficce don't have a function for "save as" html document?

Well, if not, then you have access to MS Word?  in this program save as html
document and ready.

See ya.

marcia escribió:

> Dear All, I have Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and I would like to change a
> Microsoft Word doc. to html then upload to a web page . The document
> opens in StarOffice 5.2 just fine. I also, have it saved as a StarOffice
> document. Does anyone know how to do this? I am guessing that once I
> have it in html form I can then use Netscape composer to upload it to
> the web page. I just would like to know how to change it to html format
> and then go from there. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
> Marcia

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[newbie] the origin's of bash?

2001-02-20 Thread Mark Johnson

Does anyone know where bash came from?




[newbie] Creating Html documents

2001-02-20 Thread marcia

Dear All, I have Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and I would like to change a
Microsoft Word doc. to html then upload to a web page . The document
opens in StarOffice 5.2 just fine. I also, have it saved as a StarOffice
document. Does anyone know how to do this? I am guessing that once I
have it in html form I can then use Netscape composer to upload it to
the web page. I just would like to know how to change it to html format
and then go from there. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Marcia




Re: [newbie] Linux dvd player

2001-02-20 Thread goldenpi

Wheh I first got linux installed, I used up the supply of party poppers I
had in the draw. I got streamers everyewhere.

- Original Message -
From: abe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux dvd player


> videolan is REALLY REALLY BETA still.  can't stop a playing track just
> pause it.  can't change to a new track without exiting the prog and
> restarting it.  I could never get xine to work either.  It installed ok
> but I couldn't get it to play anythign but the occasional mpg from the
> web.  Similarly OMS wouldn't compile on my system either.  rg.  I'm
> gonna through a party when I can play a dvd in linux.
>
> Abe
>
>
>
> goldenpi wrote:
> >
> > I cant get it to compile :(
> >
> > I get hundreds of errors in the source. Probably something with my
version
> > of gcc. I can never get anything to compile.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 4:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux dvd player
> >
> > > Xine is running well instead it is only in the 0.37 release
> > > http://xine.sourceforge.net. OMS seem to have still problems. I am
> > > waiting to use videoland(www.videoland.org) some people said that it
is
> > > also good.
> > >
> > > Francisco Alcaraz
> > > Murcia (Spain)
> > >
> > > - Mensaje Original -
> > > Remitente: "Curtis Von Lintel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Fecha: Viernes, Febrero 16, 2001 11:29 pm
> > > Asunto: [newbie] Linux dvd player
> > >
> > > > Anybody tried it yet. I know it only became offical today..but
> > > > still after a year there has to be a few people getting it running
> > > > today.
> > > > Heres the linkage
> > > >
> > > > http://www.linuxvideo.org/news/
> > > >
> > > > Curtis
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>





Re: [newbie] Wierd Windows Hard Drive Problem.

2001-02-20 Thread goldenpi



Ok, I think I can help here.
 
You want to stop windows from seeing that drive? 
Just disable it in the bios. I know windows wont detect it then. I dont know 
quite how linux will respond through. I think linux wont care but the bootloader 
might.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 8:43 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Wierd Windows Hard 
  Drive Problem.
  Specs: 40 GB Western 
  Digital Hard Drive IDE, Primary Master 10 GB Western Digital Hard Drive 
  IDE, Secondary Master 40GB Partitioned into 18, 8, 8, 8 all Fat 32 
  10 GB Partitioned into 250MB (swap) 8 GB (/) 1.75 GB (/root) 
  Windows recognizes 40 GB partitions fine. It also reads the different 
  partitions as one large partition and allows me to read from the device as 
  if there were nothing there. I dont want access to that drive because 
  Linux is on it, and I am afraid I will ruin the partitions some how. 
  Windows says I have a 10GB hard drive there, it doesnt read the seperate 
  partitions. Its wierd. I just want to not load that device in 
  windows. Any help greatly appriciated. ~Lance 



RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Paul Rodríguez

There are some distribution specially dsigned for older systems.  These
include:

Tiny Linux http://tiny.seul.org/
Hal 91 http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm
Peanut Linux http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/
MuLinux http://sunsite.dk/mulinux/
ZipHam http://perso.libertysurf.fr/f5nlg
DLX http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h93/h9301726/dlx.html
Grey Cat Linux http://www.intelcities.com/Coder_Canyon/theking/

Kde and Gnome are going to require (arguably) at least 32mb.  Someone please
correct me on this, I'm not sure how much is required or recommended.  With
4 or 8 megs, you are much better off running in text only mode or running a
lighter window manager such as:

Window Maker http://www.windowmaker.org/
or Black Box http://blackbox.alug.org/

Check out this page on Window Managers for X http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ to
get an idea of the options.

Good luck.

-Paul R

PS WHat are you planning to use this system for?
I have an old 386sx I'm going to be trying to use as a firewall/router soon.
Should be fun (and I'm probably going to need some help from the list when I
get started).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ingo Bauer
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux for 486


h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a
little slow  Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .

Ingo

-Original Message-
From:   Édison Andrés [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
procesor of 50 MHz.

I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

Thanks for all.

--
Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informática
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medellín - Colombia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [newbie] Finding mandrake 6

2001-02-20 Thread April

I finally got the right specs for my monitor, reinstalled, etc., and it
still won't work.  And, about a year ago, I had 6 working on the same system
fine, no hoops to get it installed or anything.  So I'm going to try 6.  And
if that doesn't work, maybe try slackware, cause my friends will talk to me
again if I"m not using Mandrake, and maybe I'd be able to get some help from
them.


- Original Message -
From: "Bryant Morrison F47743C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Finding mandrake 6


> Why 6 and not 7.x ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Meph Istopheles
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Finding mandrake 6
>
>
>   April,
>
> > I'm looking for a version of mandrake 6 (later the better, but
> > not 7) to download and install.  Umm, where should I be
> > looking?
>
>   Have you tried cdrom.com?
>
>   Meph
>
> --
>   "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody."
>   -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
>
>
>
>





[newbie] Front End for Hylafax

2001-02-20 Thread Jack Gillis

Is there a front end for Hylafax available for Mandrake.  I believe one is 
for SuSE but am not sure.  Would it run under Mandrake?

Thank you.





[newbie] Testing for bad RAM

2001-02-20 Thread Mark Johnson

I am suspicious that my RAM is bad.  Is there anyway in linux that I can
confirm this? 




Re: [newbie] AfterStep support?

2001-02-20 Thread DRX

>It sounds like you downloaded a source tarball for AfterStep, and now you
>need to compile and install it. Yes?

 Yes.  Exactly correct.

>You should have the rpm's you need on
>one of the two Mandrake cd's.

 I installed Mandrake from a CD downloaded from the Mandrake FTP site.
I only have one CD though.  If the rpm's I need are on the "other" CD, the
one I don't have, they should nevertheless also be available at Mandrake's
FTP site, shouldn't they?  The problem therefore is only (!!!) how to find
them at the FTP site?

>If not, try rpmfind.net.
>
 A search engine for rpms?  The problem is that I don't know the name
of one of the two packages.  Apparently the AfterStep people didn't know
the name either.  They just told me "I don't know how the other one called,
but it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries."  I
don't think I can write that in a search engine and expect any useful
results.

   DRX
>Dave
>
>At 11:36 AM 2/17/01 +0100, you wrote:
>> I have been told by the AfterStep people that I apparently need two
>>additional packages installed in order to be able to use AfterStep.  One of
>>these they said is called "XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm," and the
>>other was described like this: "I don't know how the other one called, but
>>it should be for headers for development with graphics libraries."
>>
>>  Where do I find these packages?  Somewhere at the Mandrake FTP site?
>>Or are they included somewhere on the CD?  If so, how do I find them?
>>
>> DRX
>






Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-20 Thread DRX

>If you setup your "/home" directory to be on a seperate partition, the
>damage of reinstalling is minimal. You will not lose anyfiles that you
>have placed into this directory but you should not choose to **format**
>this directory when the partitioner asks you for this action. Format "/"
>and mayber "/boot" if they are seperate and you should be ok.
>
 Yes, but I will lose all new scrips and programs installed in /usr, as
well as the users, won't I?

 I was hoping that there would be a less drastic way to regain Internet
access.  I have always heard that what makes Linux so great is that it
consists of independent modules which are easy to configure and exchange
for other modules, while still keeping the same system.  To use brute force
and reinstall the whole system because of a malfunction in one of these
modules goes completely against this idea, doesn't it?  It feels a bit like
scrapping your car and getting a new one just because the ashtray is full.

  DRX
>--
>> > if you're abroad :o( .) a few times, inclluding Suse installs.
>> >Try and configure what I did, nothing worked. When doing a fresh
>> >install everything worked fine (not always) a sort of a lottery:o(
>>
>>  So you're saying that I should reinstall the whole Mandrake CD again?
>> Erase the whole system and start from scratch?  I guess I'll have to
>> eventually, but I was kind of hoping that there might be a less extreme
>> solution.
>>
>>   DRX
>> >ciao,
>
>  .--. `
>  |__| .---.   Altoine Barker
>  |=.| |.-.|   Maximum Time, Inc
>  |--| ||$SEND||   Chicago Based Enterprise
>  |  | |'-'|   http://www.maximumtime.com
>  |__|~')_('







[newbie] Remove

2001-02-20 Thread Ernesto Bayona Rivero



Remove 
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[newbie] Netscape question

2001-02-20 Thread Michael

Hello,

I'm using Mandrake 7.1 and shortly after install, Netscape stopped
rendering document and table backgrounds/colors.  It works fine, it's
just that I'm working on a site and it would be nice to see the outcome.

Can I just reinstall it from the RPM's and if so, do I need to delete
the old install first?  (I ran into this problem on another package that
had to be re-installed.) I also use Netscape mail and have a lot of info
in there I don't want to lose.  I think my NS version is 4.73  Also, if
I need to re-install, can I grab a later version such as 4.75?  A friend
is using that version and it renders fonts much better.

TIA

-- 
Michael Lewis   
Registered Linux User #197864




Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

2001-02-20 Thread DRX

>Can you post the contents of /etc/resolv.conf ?
>Mike
>--

 Yes.  /etc/resolv.conf included only two lines, and those are:

search localdomain
nameserver 212.109.1.50


 The "nameserver" line contains the correct address to my DNS.  Perhaps
it shouldn't read "search localdomain" though?  Could this be the problem?

 DRX

>> >most often you will need to correctly set your ISP's DNS Server in whatever
>> >program you use to dial-in
>>
>>  I use something called "kppp."  On the desktop of KDE this is reached
>> by clicking on an icon named "Internet."  As I stated in my previous
>> postings, the DNS is still the same as it was when I could get out on the
>> Internet, and yes, it is correct (the settings are the same as on this
>> computer, and I can get out on the net with this -- running another OS).
>>
>>   DRX
>==







[newbie] Installation Recommendations

2001-02-20 Thread jiten


 i have doubt. where would be these partitions sit in a dual bott sysytem.
 say for  a 20 gb parttion i want three partions of totel 14 gb (i.e. c:\, 
 d\: , e:\  ). where would this , /, /swap,/home, /usr lie i.e in extended
dos> ...is there anything like linux extended ..in which i can make more
 partitions (as there can be only for primary ..correct me.)
 plz explain me in trems of hda ...so that i an understand tha=e full
 partition table

>
> It appears that there are plenty of opinions on this one.  You can of
course
> just leave Mandrake to guess the sizes for you but I guess you are asking
> with a purpose in mind?
>
> Information I have been able to get hold of from installations starting
with
> NetBSD and continuing to the present Mandrake (excellent package!)
includes
> :
>
> /swap should be about twice or two and a half times the size of your
memory.
> Remember then if you are planning a memory upgrade it is easier to allow
for
> that now rather than have a re-partition at a later date. Thus 64Mb memory
=
> 128 Mb/160Mb swap.
>
> You can have a boot partition (/boot) of 8 Mb/10Mb which leaves room for
> different kernel versions.  I have never done this myself though.  If your
> drive is larger than 4Gb it is apparently worth having a /boot partition
> owing to limitations in LiLo
>
> It may be worth having a home partition (/home)  if you are going to have
> lots of users with mailboxes (for example)
>
> The rest can be allocated to / or divided up between / and /usr.
>
> The minimum is I think two partitions /swap and /
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan Le Gros
> Sent: 20 February 2001 10:27
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Installation Recommendations
>
>
> Ok guys, how large should i make each of my partition (/, swap, /usr,
/home)
> for a full installation (all packages on all 4 cd's) of Linux Mandrake 7.2
> Powerpack Deluxe, at first i was getting installation errors because my /
> directory was too small at 500 megs, so i increased it to 1 gig and now im
> getting rpm errors later on in the installation. Thanks for the Info
>
> Ryan Le Gros





RE: [newbie] sound card thinks its a CDrom

2001-02-20 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza

This is normal, your CDRW is recognized both, as ATAPI CDROM and a SCSI
CDwriter; the SCSI emulation is essential to have linux burning CDs. So is
not a confussion with your sound card.

Probably to have your sound card working you must install sndconfig (rpm in
the second disk of Mandrake 7.2) and run it from a text screen; It ussually
works fine except for some very specific sound-cards. Anayway, you didn't
mention what kind of sound card do you have!!!

I have a winmodem in my laptop and I have reached it to telephon, but it
doesn't work well (this was made using lucent modules). I think that the
better solution is buy a cheap external modem, they work fine; try with your
Texas external modem.

I hope this could help you.

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: [newbie] sound card thinks its a CDrom


> hi,
>
> I installed Mandrake 7.2 onto 10 G of my hard drive. I have an HP 933 Mhz
40
> gig hard drive ( 30 Win me and 10 Linux Mandrake)  Everything went well
(for
> the most part)
> I went into Drake conf to get my modem and sound card running and happened
to
> notice that I have 3 Cd devces. One is the DVD player ( samsung ) and the
> other two are the CDRW. So I check the CDRWs and find out that one seems
to
> be my sound card. Has this ever happened to anyone else? and how do you
> correct it?
>
> I'm also having trouble finding the drivers for my Convexant soft 56k
modem
> (rockwell). Yes I know it's a Win modem! If I can't get it running I have
a
> spare internal Texas Instruments 56K, (is that supported?) I can install.
>
> I've been working trying to get up and running for about 3 weeks. My
> boyfriend has everything running on his Viao laptop except the modem. I
want
> to be up and running soon so we can start working on a server.
> Any help would be great.
>
> marianne
>
>





RE: [newbie] defrag in Linux?

2001-02-20 Thread Ingo Bauer

no need to !!

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   February 20, 2001 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] defrag in Linux?

Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux?


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Re: [newbie] ESD and Maestro Audio driver

2001-02-20 Thread AndyMonks
yes, i've got a simeler problem. but it is on my dads computor with , win98!

This happened just after i stole BOROWED. my dads main sound card. so this 
may have got somthing to do with interupts and irq settings. is it an onbord 
sound card?


[newbie] cheap Linux books

2001-02-20 Thread donald hinds


If you are in N.E. and want some cheap Linux books, two places to look.

 Building 19 (20 stores) has computer books for 50c (yes, the 400+ page Linux
ones)

  Ocean State Job Lot (many stores), $6.99 (sometimes $4.99) and many of them
include a CD, like the Wordperfect-8 for Linux book.


Don


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Re: [newbie] FTP Server(Revised) Success!!!

2001-02-20 Thread Douglas stewart

For those that are interested I found how to configure the ftp server:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ISP-Setup-RedHat-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.11

I hope this helps others :-)
Doug

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [newbie] FTP Server(Revised) Success!!!


> Douglas stewart wrote:
> > 
> > The conclusion! Success!
> > I had to install
> > python
> > xinetd
> > wu-ftpd
> > 
> > and now it works.
> > 
> > Thanks very much to all that responded :-
> > Doug Stewart
> 
> Great! Dependencies, dependencies .LoL
> 
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> 
> 
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RE: [newbie] Finding mandrake 6

2001-02-20 Thread Bryant Morrison F47743C

Why 6 and not 7.x ?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Meph Istopheles
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Finding mandrake 6


  April,

> I'm looking for a version of mandrake 6 (later the better, but
> not 7) to download and install.  Umm, where should I be
> looking?

  Have you tried cdrom.com?

  Meph

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  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux







[newbie] star office 5.2 - /tmp no space ???

2001-02-20 Thread Alan Carpenter

When I attempted to install star office, I get an error "no space in /tmp".
It creates a directory under /tmp called "srv.0001".  Does this simply mean
I don't have enough space to install it??  I created the typical partitions.
/,swap,var,usr,home and opt.  What partition does the tmp directory reside
under???


Alan Carpenter
PC Specialist
Department of Computer Services
Virginia Wesleyan College
1584 Wesleyan Dr.
Norfolk Va. 23502
Office (757)455.3267
Cell (757)449.0381





Re: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

if would had 8MB ???

Ingo Bauer escribió:

> h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a little slow 
> Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely .
>
> Ingo
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   Édison Andrés [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: Linux Novatos
> Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486
>
> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
> procesor of 50 MHz.
>
> I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
> station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?
>
> Thanks for all.
>
> --
> Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
> Ingeniero de Sistemas
> Departamento de Informática
> Universidad de San Buenaventura
> Medellín - Colombia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>   
>
>Part 1.2Type: application/ms-tnef
>Encoding: base64

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Medellín - Colombia
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Re: [newbie] What would be an ideal (but reasonable) LM7.2 desktop platform

2001-02-20 Thread Tim Holmes

I have two Linux boxes on my network here at home.  Both are P2-400's
and the only real difference is RAM.  One machine has 256 MG the other
128.  But they both run pretty damn fast!

Now there are somethings that I've noticed, heard, and/or experimented
with, and that's separate hard drives for certain mount points.  I've
found that if you mount /home to a second hard drive, programs will pop
up and run faster since it's accessing another drive and it doesn't have
all your personal stuff running on it at the same time.

Now for me... that's not a problem.  I have hard drives that I don't
even have in use.  And each of my machines has an average of 42 GB of HD
space.  Right now the machine I'm on right now, was installed as a
Development server, and I have a separate partition for /home and I've
noticed that even that runs faster and smoother then just mounting / and
Linux swap.

I also have a friend who was running a machine with a P2-200 over
clocked to a P2-333 and it ran with no problem.  The old SCSI drives in
there slowed things down a little bit but the machine was still pretty
fast!

That's something I love about Linux.  You can install it on a 486 or
bastard 586 and it will run circles around Windows on a better machine!

I'm not sure what process you have running, or what's started on your
machine when you boot that you're noticing this sluggish behavior.  Try
using ntsysv to find out what's running and disable things that aren't
being used.  If you're not using any USB ports, disable them, if you're
not using the webserver, disable httpd.  Things like that.  For example,
this is a top off my machine, and look at how many instances run for the
webserver alone.  

113 processes: 112 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  1.3% user,  1.1% system,  0.0% nice, 97.4% idle
Mem:   261712K av,  255900K used,5812K free,   0K shrd,   85940K
buff
Swap:  530104K av,   0K used,  530104K free   64536K
cached

===
  816 root   0   0  2512 2512  2372 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd-perl
  819 apache 0   0  2588 2588  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd-perl
  820 apache 0   0  2588 2588  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd-perl
  821 apache 0   0  2588 2588  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd-perl
  822 apache 0   0  2588 2588  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd-perl
  961 root   0   0  2484 2484  2428 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd
  964 root   0   0  2480 2480  2416 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd
  965 apache 0   0  2708 2708  2472 S 0.0  1.0   0:00 httpd
  966 apache 0   0  2680 2680  2472 S 0.0  1.0   0:00 httpd
  967 apache 0   0  2680 2680  2472 S 0.0  1.0   0:00 httpd
  968 apache 0   0  2680 2680  2472 S 0.0  1.0   0:00 httpd
  969 apache 0   0  2592 2592  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd
  970 apache 0   0  2592 2592  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd
  971 apache 0   0  2592 2592  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd
  972 apache 0   0  2592 2592  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd
  973 apache 0   0  2592 2592  2440 S 0.0  0.9   0:00 httpd
  974 apache 0   0  2680 2680  2472 S 0.0  1.0   0:00 httpd

Something like that might give you some processor to breath with, but
honestly, I'm not sure why you're having any problems at all.

Well there's my "$0.02" hope you can make change! :0)~
tdh
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* Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010216 14:21]:
> Just wondering, without spendning a fortune what would be the ideal platform
> for running LM 7.2 (KDE/GNOME)?
> 
> I ask this because I'm running 7.2 on a K6-200/128MB and on a P400/256MB and
> they are both sluggish.  How much machine to I need to run a typical
> installation of 7.2, I was planning on upgrading my CPU to a 500 but I'm not
> sure if it is increasing the proc will be as effective as increasing the
> memory.In the task window X was using up 17K (I guess memory) is that
> about right?




RE: [newbie] ESD and Maestro Audio driver

2001-02-20 Thread Dorian_750



That 
happened to me when I had two cards on the same interrupt.  What kind of 
sound card & what kind of connector (PCI/ISA/no idea)?
 
Thanks,
Dorian

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of James W Greene Jr.Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 
  9:30 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 
  ESD and Maestro Audio driver
  Hello All,
      Strange thing is happening on 
  my Dell Latitude CpxH
  I just installed LM 7.2 and esd is giving me 
  wierd sound problems.  All I get is a looping of sound after I click on 
  say terminal.  This is in gnome.  In KDE everything is 
  repeated.  The startup sounds just echos.  I need to go into console 
  and kill esd to make it stop.  ANyone else seen this and have a fix 
  ?
   
  JG


Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?

2001-02-20 Thread Anthony

The command is e2fsck. Generally there's no need to invoke this, as most
Linux distributions are set up to run every 20th boot up or so. Check
the man pages on how to use it.

Anthony

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> 
> Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux?
> 
> -
> Windows is a virus.
> -
>




RE: [newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Ingo Bauer

h ... you will find distributions that will run on 4MB ... Albeit a little slow 
 Running X (Gnome,KDE and so on) is highly unlikely . 

Ingo

-Original Message-
From:   Édison Andrés [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   February 21, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject:[newbie] Linux for 486

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
procesor of 50 MHz.

I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

Thanks for all.

--
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Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informática
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medellín - Colombia
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Re: [[newbie] Finding mandrake 6]

2001-02-20 Thread donald hinds

If you are in N.E. and there is an Ocean State Job Lot store nearby look in 
there. Some of them have boxed sets of Mandrake 6.5 for $5.99. I know the one
in North Quincy Mass had some.

  Don

I'm looking for a version of mandrake 6 (later the better, but not 7) to
download and install.  Umm, where should I be looking?


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[newbie] Mandrake Update is broken...

2001-02-20 Thread Matt Schroeder

My Mandrake update worked fine for a couple weeks.  I used it succesfully
quite a few times.

Now it loads up and when I tell it to update it's list it goes through the
motions but nothing ever shows up.

The modem even pulls data by the looks of things.

Anyone got an idea what's wrong?

--Matt




Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking

2001-02-20 Thread Michael Leone

>  Nope, you're mistaken. HTML IS A SCRIPT!

No, it is not. It is a markup language. HTML = HyperText Markup Language.
There are other types of markup languages - SGML, etc. It is NOT a script,
nor an executable binary. You can EMBED scripts in it, yes. That's a
different thing.

> Olly said it for me.
> HTML is a binary executable in the same sense as a graphic file (eg,
> .jpg, .gif. etc.), and can deliver malicious code, whether you 'click
> on it or not'.

No. An ACTUAL graphic file - JPG, GIF, etc - is NOT executable. You're
referring to a *specific* Windows OS problem, that allows file extensions to
be hidden, thereby presenting SCRIPTS as if they are graphics files. That is
an OS shortcoming, easily rectified by changing 1 setting. Then you'd see
that it is in reality NOT a graphic file, and (presuming that you are
sensible), you would not try and execute it.

You're referring to a bad guy exploiting a stupid OS default setting, not a
problem with HTML, since the supposed graphic almost always comes as an
ATTACHMENT to an email, whether HTML or plain text.

> When a Windoze system, which can only be 'pretend' secured at best,

Again, no. It takes some know how, but it most certainly can be done. It's
not *AS* secure as Unix, but it can be more than secure enough for home use.
As with any OS, it depends on large part on user knowledge and practices.
(practices includes getting all the proper OS and application patches)

Just because many (perhaps most) Windows users DON'T have their systems set
up properly, does NOT mean that they can NOT be set up properly.

> executes Hyper Text Markup Language, embedded worms can be delivered to
any M$ OS.

No. Embedded "worms", as you put it, are SCRIPTS (Javascript, VBscript, PHP,
etc). Scripts can be set to not automatically execute upon viewing. This was
the whole point of my post. This, in combination with a decent, frequently
updated AV program, will do wonders for minimizing that particular type of
threat.

> This isn't a threat for U*ix systems,  which is why I said "for your own
safety" in cautioning M$ and
> particulary M$ email users.

You can read HTML mail on Windows (please try and refrain from using
insulting terms about other OSes) using mail readers other than O/OE without
ill effects. So it is NOT HTML that is dangerous, as you claim,  but the
configuration of the software/OS that you are using.

If you wish to state that HTML *can* be dangerous *IF* you leave your
*OUTLOOK/OUTLOOK EXPRESS* at it's default, non-secure settings, then you
would be absolutely correct.

The same can be said of RedHat's default configuration - they load many
services that are potential security holes that are far worse than any HTML
holes. But if you know what you are doing, and change your configuration,
these problems either disappear or become vastly minimized. Ditto for
Windows and HTML mail.

> > Please - don't make incorrect blanket statements.
>
>Do some research, then take your own advice.

As I stated in my email, I have. And the method I outlined above works, and
is (part of) the recommended advice for securing O/OE.
I suggest you do the same, since - judging by the examples you've used in
this email - you have some misconceptions about a few things.

> ineffective due to user ignorance. When you read HTML in a Windoze
> system, you have opened your system to it and are allowing it to
> execute code. This is like using a Linux system, as root, with no

NO. Did you not read my post?

*SCRIPTS* embedded in HTML can cause problems, *NOT* the HTML code itself.
And SCRIPTS can be set to NOT execute.

Please become aware of the difference between scripts in HTML and actual
HTML commands itself. Just because most viruses/trojan horses/worms are
written in C does not mean C itself is a virus-riddled language.






RE: [newbie] Installation Recommendations

2001-02-20 Thread Daryl Johnson



It 
appears that there are plenty of opinions on this one.  You can of course 
just leave Mandrake to guess the sizes for you but I guess you are asking with a 
purpose in mind?
 
Information I have been able to get hold of from installations starting 
with NetBSD and continuing to the present Mandrake (excellent package!) includes 
:
 
/swap 
should be about twice or two and a half times the size of your memory.  
Remember then if you are planning a memory upgrade it is easier to allow for 
that now rather than have a re-partition at a later date. Thus 64Mb memory = 128 
Mb/160Mb swap.
 
You 
can have a boot partition (/boot) of 8 Mb/10Mb which leaves room for 
different kernel versions.  I have never done this myself though.  If 
your drive is larger than 4Gb it is apparently worth having a /boot partition 
owing to limitations in LiLo
 
It may 
be worth having a home partition (/home)  if you are going to have lots of 
users with mailboxes (for example)
 
The 
rest can be allocated to / or divided up between / and /usr.
 
The 
minimum is I think two partitions /swap and /

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Ryan Le GrosSent: 20 February 2001 
  10:27To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 
  Installation Recommendations
  Ok guys, how large should i make each of my 
  partition (/, swap, /usr, /home) for a full installation (all packages on all 
  4 cd's) of Linux Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe, at first i was getting 
  installation errors because my / directory was too small at 500 megs, so i 
  increased it to 1 gig and now im getting rpm errors later on in the 
  installation. Thanks for the Info
   
  Ryan Le Gros
   


Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?

2001-02-20 Thread Ryan Le Gros

the way the linux file system works keeps your drive defragmented at all
times. thats one of the reasons its absolutely vital that you shut your
machine down properly.

Ryan Le Gros

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:39 AM
Subject: [newbie] defrag in Linux?


> Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux?
>
>
> -
> Windows is a virus.
> -
>
>
>
>





Re: [Re: [newbie] It's all LUCK, and mine was BAD]

2001-02-20 Thread donald hinds

"petzhouse private" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Welcome to linux. This is what linux is all about (stress.)

You can use an easy reset technique that lets you start again. (NOTE: A very 
bad idea would be to get another distro. I have tried eight gazilion 
(actually 3) and sadly this is the easiest to use...

The easy reset technique is as follows:

1. Delete your current Linux mandrake system and reinstall linux

2. Complain to the computer who makes your modem and ask about linux 
support. A likely response is "We don't support it." (followed by the 
representative hanging up on you.)

3. Get a new modem that says all over the box things like "Supports linux" 
and "Tested with linux" and even "Comes with linux."

4. Find out that the company dosn't provide technical suport for using the 
modem with linux.

5. Go to Mandrakeexperts.com and type in your question (As soon as you press 
submit the site goes down. I have tried this numeras times.)

6. Have a nervious breakdown

I have gone through all these steps myself except for with a USB ethernet 
card. (The "linux supported"(false advertising)was a non-USB one where you 
have to break your back and open the computer.

Hope this helps.


You are right, Compaq doesn't support Linux, except the iPaq palm-sized
computer. Talk about backwards thinking...

I could use a serial modem (I have them), but my serial port is for the Palm
(one serial, 2 USB). So I want to use the USB modem like I do in Windows.  All
the files are there, but I can't find WHAT FILE to tell LM Linux that the
modem is on the USB port and not on the serial port.

   Don

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[newbie] Linux for 486

2001-02-20 Thread Édison Andrés

Hello everybody.

I'm looking for a Linux versión for a 486 PC with 4 megas in RAM and a
procesor of 50 MHz.

I want to know if I can put in this machine a StartX service?  what
station of work would you recommend me? KDE? GNOME?

Thanks for all.

--
Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informática
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medellín - Colombia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Re: [newbie] It's all LUCK, and mine was BAD]

2001-02-20 Thread donald hinds


"And finally, check the archives of this list for the problems associated
with the "fontastic install".  I recall someone posting the solution to
this within the past month.  I seem to recall someone posting a
difficulty with WP8 fairly recently, too--I didn't pay much attention
since I've installed it on 7.0 and 7.1 and then never used it."

That was me, and I followed their links (which were good). The LM help page is
the one that says to install the 'fonttastic...rpm'  from the install CD, and
since it is a Mandrake page one assumes the Mandrake CD, but fonttastic isn't
on any of my 8 Mandrake CDs (I have LM 7.2, 6.5 CDs and LM utilities CD set
too). It's not on either of the CDs  that have WP8, nor the CD with Corel
PhotoPaint.

 Mandrake seems to be hoplessly lost. 

  Don

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RE: [newbie] Emergency--Is there any way to undelet a file?

2001-02-20 Thread Steve Gulick

Thanks but the page is 404

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of L. H. LOO
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Emergency--Is there any way to undelet a file?
> 
> 
> www.linuxave.net/~recover/index.html or
> http://linux.davecentral.com/4126_sysutilfile.html
> 
> At 19-02-2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Boy oh boy did I just mess up big time! Please tell me there is 
> a way I can
> >undelete a directory.
> >
> >Thanks, Steve just sitting here in a world of hurt :(
> 




Re: [newbie] MySQL

2001-02-20 Thread Allan Parreno


get a source at www.mysql.com, usually it is a mysql-x.x.tar.gz

1. tar -zxvf mysql-x.x.tar.gz
2. cd mysql-x.x.x
3. ./configure
4. make
5. make install
6. scripts/mysql_install_db
7. cp support-files/mysql.server /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql
8. chmod a+x /etcrc.d/init.d/mysql
9. setup
10. System services and check mysql

the next time you restart your system mysql will run automatically or
/usr/local/bin/safe_mysqld & 

Hope this will help!


On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Julio Gutierrez wrote:

> 
> I would like to know if someone can tell me how to setup and start up mysql,
> I've been reading the doc pages @mysql.com but they are kinda difficult and 
> almost contain no info at all(well at least it doesn't apply to my case)
> so if anyone can help me with this matter I would really appreciate it. :-)
> by the way I'm using MD7.2 on a x686 mach. 10 gig HD 256MB RAM
> 
> Thanks again!!!
> 
> Julio
> 

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[newbie] kppp crashes

2001-02-20 Thread John David Molina

Hi there.

There is something wrong in my kpp configuration. It refuses to be runned by 
a normal user. When I try (as a user) to run it, it crashes:

The terminal shows:
  KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
  KCrash: Application Name = kppp path = 

And a dialog box shows:
  The KPPP application failed with signal 11 (SIGSEGV)


The only way to run it is to be root or be su'ed as root. I modified the kppp 
icon on my desktop from "kppp" to "kdesu kppp" and works fine. But my 
question is: should it be so? Must I be root to run kppp? I don't feel 
comfortable running it su'ed as root (can it be a security hole?).

By the way, the file permissions are
  -rwsr-xr-x1 root root   892184 oct 17 11:50 /usr/bin/kppp* 

Thanks for your help.
-- 
John David Molina




[newbie] MySQL

2001-02-20 Thread Julio Gutierrez


I would like to know if someone can tell me how to setup and start up mysql,
I've been reading the doc pages @mysql.com but they are kinda difficult and 
almost contain no info at all(well at least it doesn't apply to my case)
so if anyone can help me with this matter I would really appreciate it. :-)
by the way I'm using MD7.2 on a x686 mach. 10 gig HD 256MB RAM

Thanks again!!!

Julio