[newbie] Mandrake and MicroSolutions

[Patrick]

Well, this looks like a nice active list! I hope to find answers to my
many questions here.

The machine: AMD K6 333 clocked to 350 on a FIC/VIA mobo, 256MB RAM, 2 x
10GB Maxtors in drawers, 4x4 NEC CD-R, 1.44/1.2/LS120 FDD, 16MB S540 AGP
vid card pushing a 17"CTX, HP7475 plotter, Canon 5000 (useless under
Linux) and Canon BJ-200, external 56k Modem Blaster, Sound Blaster,
parallel port Backpack CD-RW, using System Commander to triple boot...on
and on.

My first question:

Running Mandrake 7.0. I found some modules on the MicroSolutions web
site for my Backpack CD-RW, BUT - - my kernel is 2.2.14-15mdk (is this
some weird Mandrake only kernel?) and all I can find that comes close is
a module for 2.2.14 or 2.2.14-5. These do not work since the modules are
compiled specifically for these kernels. Argh!! What to do? I would
really like to be able to use my burner under the penguin so as to
continue my migration to a full-time Linux system.

Pat the Rat

[newbie] **offtopic** JavaScript

[Édison Andrés]

I made a web page that calls a JavaScript file.

My problem is when I change the JavaScript file, the browser not
download the new archive.

I think if I delete my history, the problem desapear for me.  But what
happen with the other users?

Anybody knows how can I solution this problem for final users?

--
Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informática
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medellín - Colombia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.usb-med.edu.co/~neos

RE: [newbie] Intel AN430TX Onboard Sound

[Kelly, Christopher]

Did you try the Intel site?

Moose


-Original Message-
From: Domitian X [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Intel AN430TX Onboard Sound


Anybody know where I can get drivers for the built in sound on the Intel 
AN430TX board?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[abe]

I second this.  Quick Tech is the program that I recommend.  It is
available from http://www.uxd.com as was mentioned below.  It is
amazing.  Well worth the money.  Worth its weight in gold actually.

Although I do disagree with always keeping BIOS defaults.  Definately
keep them for ram timings and speeds but other settings need to be
adjusted to achive stable peak performance from your hardware.  As an
example:  An Asus A7V (if you have no usb devices) will boot twice as
fast with "legacy USB Support" disabled and it is enabled by default.


Abe "I test more ram and motherboards in an afternoon then most people
touch in their entire lives"
olson ;-)



Linux Tests wrote:
> 
> Sorry,  I respectfully disagree with some of this. A techs time is too
> expensive to go through BIOS settings. Always stick with the BIOS defaults.
> Period.  DO NOT make changes to your BIOS.
> 
> Plus simplify the testing process.
> 
> Keep the BIOS at default.
> Use RST - and OS independent tester - which will test compatibility issues
> for the complete system as well as locate any bad memory modules.
> 
> In less than 3 minutes you will know if the memory is bad.
> 
> http://www.uxd.com
> 
> Don't waste your time swapping and pulling etc.  Just get the program and be
> happy.(No, I'm not affiliated with Ultra-X. I just happen to use the program)
> 
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, you wrote:
> ##On Wednesday 21 February 2001 02:24 pm, Heather wrote:
> ##> On this subject of RAM incompatibility...
> ##>
> ##> I have a stick of RAM that someone gave me to boost me up past 64mb.
> ##> When I first installed it it would do ok, but then it would get where
> ##> sometimes it would show on boot up and others it wouldn't then (in
> ##> evil windows since i haven't put it back after installing LM) my
> ##> computer started popping up more errors and illegals than it ever had
> ##> before. When I pulled the RAM it went back to normal (for windows).
> ##> Is there a way for me to find out if the 2 sticks are just
> ##> incompatible or if the 1 stick is just borked up?
> ##
> ##Not really.  The only way to actually test ram is on a _very_
> ##expensive, purpose built machines that very few people would ever have
> ##access to (lab equipment).  What is more important to understand is
> ##just how much ram can be affected by other parts of the system.
> ##Particularly the motherboard, cpu, cache, etc.  The best ram test apps
> ##like 'memtest86', actually test the whole system, so the appearance of
> ##errors are not necessarily due to bad ram.  Also important to
> ##consider, is that ram is very heat and voltage tolerant, especially
> ##when compared to the other system components. IOW's, it's usually not
> ##the culprit.
> ##
> ##   Most often there's no problem mixing ram sizes or "labels" (eg pc66,
> ##100, 133, etc).  I've got two 128mb sticks, one pc100, one pc133
> ##that'll run 'memtest86', L2 disabled, together for an extended time at
> ##155 mhz with -0- error at 3.55V.  So is my pc100 mislabeled?  No, ram
> ##is what it'll do with -0- errors over time. But I digress 
> ##
> ##   First check your bios settings.  The settings easiest on the ram are
> ##the 'slow' settings. (eg, cas3-3-3, precharge disabled, no ECC for
> ##sdram). Then most ram problems can often be solved by moving the sticks
> ##to different slots and/or changing the order they're installed in.
> ##Sometimes just reseating the ram cures the problem.  Next most likely
> ##culprit is the motherboard.  A stick of pc66 ram that will run without
> ##errors at 133mhz (twice it's rated speed) in one motherboard, might not
> ##work reliably at all in a different (lesser) motherboard even at it's
> ##default 66mhz.  It's just another situation that illustrates how
> ##important it is to base a system on a good quality motherboard and a
> ##good power supply. Many of the better motherboards (eg, Asus, Soyo,
> ##Abit, Epox, MSI, etc) provide more than the standard IO voltage to the
> ##ram by default (about +10%).  This greatly enhances ram stability and
> ##performance at, or even far above it's manufacturers rating.
> ##
> ##So what'a you do?  Try reseating (clean the contacts), swappin
> ##around, tryin in other motherboards (ie, see if it works in a different
> ##system), give it some more voltage (if you've got a good motherboard).
> ##'memtest86' is a good check in that you can toggle the L2 cache off/on.
> ##Many cache error problems often get blamed on the ram.  If none of that
> ##fixes the problems, then give the ram to somebody you don't like ;)
> ##. and try again with a better motherboard/power supply and some new
> ##ram ;>

Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[abe]

cool.  I'll check it out.   Quick Tech Pro is made by the same people. 
I like it because it can test more then just memory.  Besides, I've seen
it identify single bad sectors.  Pretty impressive and saves a lot fo
time/money in a production environment.

Abe

Linux Tests wrote:
> 
> Actually  RAM Stress Test is able to correctly identify bad modules
> better than Quick Tech Pro.   This is a 35 K program that was originally
> shareware until the owners figured out that it is better than using a $25,000
> darkhorse tester ;-)  Micron even tried to purchase the code because they
> realized that compatibililty of memory modules and timing can also be tested
> with RST.
> 
> http://www.uxd.com
> 
> I've used RST for several years - and have been able to stop all DOA
> shipments of RAM  (company I worked for shipped GB of memory daily plus built
> systems with GB of memory.).
> 
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, you wrote:
> ##regrettably that tech is misinformed.  In my time as a pc repair tech I
> ##saw many sticks of ram that passed the boot test put were infact bad.
> ##Quick tech pro is one of the best memory testers you'll find.  It
> ##actually test's most of the hardware in your system.  Quick tech can
> ##identify a single bad sector in ram.
> ##
> ##Good luck
> ##
> ##
> ##Abe
> ##
> ##
> ##
> ##> "Myers, Dennis R NWO" wrote:
> ##>
> ##> I've been told by local computer techs that if your bios sees the ram
> ##> at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on the first
> ##> screen that shows your primary  and secondary IDE devices and  you can
> ##> hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and should be
> ##> functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their advice.
> ##>
> ##> -Original Message-
> ##> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ##> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
> ##> Sent:   Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:31 PM
> ##> To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail)
> ##> Subject:[newbie] Testing for bad RAM
> ##>
> ##> I am suspicious that my RAM is bad.  Is there anyway in linux that I
> ##> can
> ##> confirm this?

[newbie] kernel problems

[German Aguilar]

hi guys,  i can't recompile my kernel, what can i do, i have a 2.2.14-15mdksecure i don't know how to do it,  thanks in advanced     German

Re: [newbie] (OT)Half-Life server question

[abe]

"Kelly, Christopher" wrote:
> 
> This is off-topic...
> 
> Does anybody on this list run a Half-Life server? I was wondering, if I want
> to setup a Linux Half-Life server, do I need to perform a server
> installation of Mandrake? Or can I run it in the Normal installation?
> 
> Thanks,
> Moose
you can run it from a normal installation no problem.


Abe

Re: [newbie] Real rm?

[Digital Wokan]

That's Mandrake's way of keeping new users from making grave errors. 
I've left it in place since I have made the mistake and the alias rm="rm
-i" saved my butt.
You can either remove it from /etc/bashrc or if you want to override it
on a per-use basis, type "\rm annoyingfile" (backslash overrides
aliases).

DRX wrote:
> 
>  When I give the command "rm annoyingfile" I expect annoyingfile to
> disappear -- not to be asked
> 
> rm: remove 'annoyingfile'?
> 
>  What's the point of asking that?  I wouldn't have given the command rm
> if I didn't want to remove annoyingfile, would I?
> 
>  How do I change the function of rm to make it work the way I would like?
> 
>   DRX

-- 
Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
Guerilla Linux Warrior

Re: [newbie] Wut is third party ram ?

[Linux Tests]

The terminology is major on third and major on major.

Crucial is a major brand which places their chips on a major PCB.

Wintec is a company which places major chips on a 'third party' PCB.

And yes, major on third RAM memory modules are usually 'cheaper' then major 
on major brands.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, you wrote:
##To those may have ever heard & dun understand, i just
##wonna clear wut it should mean.
##
##Third party ram of brand xxx mean ram stick which is
##made of PCB-layouting of the ram chips of the brand
##xxx. Those ram sticks are normally cheaper than ram
##sticks made by the original ram chip producer (1st
##party).
##
##asharah, bla blah, blubbb
##ding ding,
##
##
##__
##Do You Yahoo!?
##Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices!
 http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[Linux Tests]

256 MB sticks are especially tricky in terms of timings and quality. It isn't 
surprising to find 256 MB modules fail on one board and pass on another brand.

Almost all of the original Corsair 256 MB modules failed after a few months of 
operation. This qualty issue was common with many other brands too.


n Wed, 21 Feb 2001, you wrote:

Naa, I can't believe this, I have a 256 stick that crashed three computers
##continuously and it counted up in the bios just fine in all three.  This
 128 ##stick isn't quite so ruthless on me but linux apps keep crashing on me
 left ##and right and weird things like the logout won't work sometimes in
 X... ##
##-Original Message-
##From: Myers, Dennis R NWO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
##Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:20 PM
##To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
##Subject: RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
##
##
##
##I've been told by local computer techs that if your bios sees the ram at
##bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on the first screen
##that shows your primary  and secondary IDE devices and  you can hit del to
##get to bios) then the ram memory is good and should be functional. I am not
##a technician so I am relying on their advice.
##
##BM__MailData-Original Message-
##From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
##mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
## ] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
##Sent:   Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:31 PM
##To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail)
##Subject:[newbie] Testing for bad RAM
##
##I am suspicious that my RAM is bad.  Is there anyway in linux that I can
##confirm this?
##
##
##


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Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[Linux Tests]

Sorry,  I respectfully disagree with some of this. A techs time is too 
expensive to go through BIOS settings. Always stick with the BIOS defaults. 
Period.  DO NOT make changes to your BIOS.

Plus simplify the testing process.

Keep the BIOS at default.
Use RST - and OS independent tester - which will test compatibility issues 
for the complete system as well as locate any bad memory modules.

In less than 3 minutes you will know if the memory is bad.

http://www.uxd.com

Don't waste your time swapping and pulling etc.  Just get the program and be 
happy.(No, I'm not affiliated with Ultra-X. I just happen to use the program)


On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, you wrote:
##On Wednesday 21 February 2001 02:24 pm, Heather wrote:
##> On this subject of RAM incompatibility...
##>
##> I have a stick of RAM that someone gave me to boost me up past 64mb.
##> When I first installed it it would do ok, but then it would get where
##> sometimes it would show on boot up and others it wouldn't then (in
##> evil windows since i haven't put it back after installing LM) my
##> computer started popping up more errors and illegals than it ever had
##> before. When I pulled the RAM it went back to normal (for windows).
##> Is there a way for me to find out if the 2 sticks are just
##> incompatible or if the 1 stick is just borked up?
##
##Not really.  The only way to actually test ram is on a _very_
##expensive, purpose built machines that very few people would ever have
##access to (lab equipment).  What is more important to understand is
##just how much ram can be affected by other parts of the system.
##Particularly the motherboard, cpu, cache, etc.  The best ram test apps
##like 'memtest86', actually test the whole system, so the appearance of
##errors are not necessarily due to bad ram.  Also important to
##consider, is that ram is very heat and voltage tolerant, especially
##when compared to the other system components. IOW's, it's usually not
##the culprit.
##
##   Most often there's no problem mixing ram sizes or "labels" (eg pc66,
##100, 133, etc).  I've got two 128mb sticks, one pc100, one pc133
##that'll run 'memtest86', L2 disabled, together for an extended time at
##155 mhz with -0- error at 3.55V.  So is my pc100 mislabeled?  No, ram
##is what it'll do with -0- errors over time. But I digress 
##
##   First check your bios settings.  The settings easiest on the ram are
##the 'slow' settings. (eg, cas3-3-3, precharge disabled, no ECC for
##sdram). Then most ram problems can often be solved by moving the sticks
##to different slots and/or changing the order they're installed in.
##Sometimes just reseating the ram cures the problem.  Next most likely
##culprit is the motherboard.  A stick of pc66 ram that will run without
##errors at 133mhz (twice it's rated speed) in one motherboard, might not
##work reliably at all in a different (lesser) motherboard even at it's
##default 66mhz.  It's just another situation that illustrates how
##important it is to base a system on a good quality motherboard and a
##good power supply. Many of the better motherboards (eg, Asus, Soyo,
##Abit, Epox, MSI, etc) provide more than the standard IO voltage to the
##ram by default (about +10%).  This greatly enhances ram stability and
##performance at, or even far above it's manufacturers rating.
##
##So what'a you do?  Try reseating (clean the contacts), swappin
##around, tryin in other motherboards (ie, see if it works in a different
##system), give it some more voltage (if you've got a good motherboard).
##'memtest86' is a good check in that you can toggle the L2 cache off/on.
##Many cache error problems often get blamed on the ram.  If none of that
##fixes the problems, then give the ram to somebody you don't like ;)
##. and try again with a better motherboard/power supply and some new
##ram ;>

Re: [newbie] "public" directory?

[Dave Sherman]

Owner can be anyone -- I would suggest root. But for public access, just 
make sure that "owner", "group" and "other" all have read/write/execute 
permissions:
 chmod -R 777 /home/public

For only read/write, but not execute, use:
 chmod -R 733 /home/public

'man chmod' for more info

Dave

At 01:57 PM 02/22/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>  I want to have a directory in /home which every user can get to, and
>put files in as well as take files from.  Who should I set as owner?  Is
>there some kind of function so that I can set "anyone" as owner?
>
>DRX

Dave Sherman
SoftServ Business Systems, Inc."Quid quid latine dictum sit,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  altum viditur."
(763) 569-9839

Re: [newbie] Real rm?

[angry]

try rm -f

DRX wrote:

>  When I give the command "rm annoyingfile" I expect annoyingfile to
> disappear -- not to be asked
>
> rm: remove 'annoyingfile'?
>
>  What's the point of asking that?  I wouldn't have given the command rm
> if I didn't want to remove annoyingfile, would I?
>
>  How do I change the function of rm to make it work the way I would like?
>
>   DRX

--

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
is probably the day Microsoft starts making vacuum cleaners."
- Ernst Jan Plugge

Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[Linux Tests]

Actually  RAM Stress Test is able to correctly identify bad modules 
better than Quick Tech Pro.   This is a 35 K program that was originally 
shareware until the owners figured out that it is better than using a $25,000 
darkhorse tester ;-)  Micron even tried to purchase the code because they 
realized that compatibililty of memory modules and timing can also be tested 
with RST.

http://www.uxd.com

I've used RST for several years - and have been able to stop all DOA 
shipments of RAM  (company I worked for shipped GB of memory daily plus built 
systems with GB of memory.). 

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, you wrote:
##regrettably that tech is misinformed.  In my time as a pc repair tech I
##saw many sticks of ram that passed the boot test put were infact bad.
##Quick tech pro is one of the best memory testers you'll find.  It
##actually test's most of the hardware in your system.  Quick tech can
##identify a single bad sector in ram.
##
##Good luck
##
##
##Abe
##
##
##
##> "Myers, Dennis R NWO" wrote:
##>
##> I've been told by local computer techs that if your bios sees the ram
##> at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on the first
##> screen that shows your primary  and secondary IDE devices and  you can
##> hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and should be
##> functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their advice.
##>
##> -Original Message-
##> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
##> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
##> Sent:   Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:31 PM
##> To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail)
##> Subject:[newbie] Testing for bad RAM
##>
##> I am suspicious that my RAM is bad.  Is there anyway in linux that I
##> can
##> confirm this?

Re: [newbie] Real time?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 22 February 2001 08:47 pm, Meph Istopheles wrote:
> >   alias tdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov && hwclock --systohc"
> >
> >if you put that line at the end of the file,  /etc/bashrc
> > and then su to root in a terminal while connected to the net,
> and run 'tdate'

>   Uh, I think you mean rdate (the "r" for remote)...?
>   Meph

   no Meph (?), look at my alias,   tdate -> rdate.  'course you can 
give the alias any name you want.  Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought 
the original problem was a mismatch of less than an hour.  Getting the 
time off a Net server with 'rdate' and then syncing the software clock 
to the bios (hwclock --systohc) in one step fixes that. 
-- 
Dale Earnhardt,  the greatest stock car driver ever.
  Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] Mandrake RPM HOWTO?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 22 February 2001 09:54 pm, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> Jon Doe wrote:
> > Mandrake makes reference to the Mandrake RPM HOWTO but I
> > can't seem to find it anywhere.

> Jonthe howto files are located on most complete
> installations at:  /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/
> and the english version rpm is on the installation CD at:
>  /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/howto-html-en-7.1-3mdk.noarch.rpm

   In addition to Alan's good advice I'd offer an online tutorial for 
rpm's http://www.rpmdp.org/rpmbook/
-- 
Dale Earnhardt,  the greatest stock car driver ever.
  Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 22 February 2001 08:35 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Ryan Le Gros wrote:
> > the way the linux file system works keeps your drive defragmented
> > at all times. thats one of the reasons its absolutely vital that
> > you shut your machine down properly.
>
> Not if you're running with ReiserFS.  :)  I don't know if I'll ever
> go back to ext2. Not that there's anything wrong with it..its just
> that Reiser is...Well, one day the power went out while I was running
> and when it came back on the comp came back up and never missed a
> beat. At that moment I was sold on ReiserFS.

  hehehe,  first time i used ReiserFS, shortly after the install I hit  
  the power off button on purpose.  
  Didn't even blink an eye while rebooting ;)  Been using Rfs since 
  last summer with no problems

http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/?dwzone=opensource
   looks like an up'an comer tho too.
-- 
Dale Earnhardt,  the greatest stock car driver ever.
  Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] PPP and Netscape not connecting (umpteenth thread!)

[m0loch]

Peter Martin wrote:
> 
> We've all been thru this too many times!
> Hardware: AMD K6 500; 128MB; 30GB; FIC 1st Mainboard w/ VIA 503+
> chipset; Aceex DM-56V14 modem, specific chipset unknown.
> Software: Mandrake 7.2 ISO I downloaded onto CD - both discs
> 
> At first I loaded up the system via CUSTOM. Loaded OK, except KDE
> desktop was screwed up, so I went back to the 7.1 version (wasn't
> working there either, ppp that is). Then somehow I got the internet
> connection to work. I did not save the settings! I thought 7.2 would be
> better so I tried again using EXPERT mode. Now KDE looks great! However,
> still can't connect to the net.
> 
> Went thru the HOW-TO and set up the files accordingly.
> hosts.deny:
> ALL: ALL
> 
> hosts.allow:
> ALL: LOCAL
> 
> /etc/resolv.conf:
> search 207.217.126.81  (that's my earthlink acct)
> nameserver 207.217.77.82(ditto)
> 
> /etc/ppp/options:  (default)
> lock
> noauth
> noipdefault  (also tried w/o the last 2)
> usepeerdns
> 
> /etc/hosts:
> 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost
> 192.168.1.101mymachine.home.commymachine
> 
> I am now going thru the HOW-TO for ppp.  I've looked at the FAQs too. I
> see by the list contents and archive, most of us have been there too
> many times. Still, at the moment I'm at a loss.
> 
> And I do like the 7.2! It's real nice otherwise!
> 
> TIA, pete
during the time it is trying to connect, open a console and as root
type:
tail -f /var/log/messages
that should help you troubleshoot the problem
-- 

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck, 
is probably the day Microsoft starts making vacuum cleaners."
- Ernst Jan Plugge

RE: [newbie] eth0 won't start on boot... / [expert] Network weirdness

[Rick Commo]

Thanks to Matt Micene for pointing me in the right direction in his post
labeled "Re: [expert] Staggering Closer ??!!??".

I was stumped by the fact eth0 wouldn't configure on boot but would by hand.
Matt's post pointed me to look at /etc/modules.conf.  

In it were the two lines
alias eth0 rtl8139
options irq=10

I got rid of the second line, "options=10", and rebooted.  No error this
time.

It still stymies me as to why it broke on boot but not by hand.  Both the
BIOS and Linux showed the NIC at irq=10.  Anyone out there have any ideas?

But at least now it comes up with the network.

Cheers,
-rick

 winmail.dat

Re: [newbie] HOW TO START LINUX

[Kuljit Singh]

Well since I know next to nothing about Linux, I thought this was the best
thing to start with.

- Original Message -
From: "Mr S Ganesan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] HOW TO START LINUX


> why do u load LINUX4WIN in the first place? Go for a standard Linux
> Distrubution such as Redhat or Mandrake and get the LILO do everything for
> you. I also have a machine which has win98,NT and LRH6.2 working without a
> hitch!!!
>
> --
> S.Ganesan
> Senior Scientist
> Central Institute of Agricultural Engineering
> Berasia Road
> Bhopal 462038, INDIA
> Phone: 0755-730986 (O)
> 0755-732105 (R)
> Fax: 0755-734016
> Email<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Web Address:http://www.ciae.nic.in
>
>

[newbie] "public" directory?

[DRX]

 I want to have a directory in /home which every user can get to, and
put files in as well as take files from.  Who should I set as owner?  Is
there some kind of function so that I can set "anyone" as owner?

   DRX

[newbie] Real time?

[DRX]

 The internal clock in the BIOS is set correctly, but Linux is one hour
too fast.  I guess I could solve this by setting the internal clock in the
BIOS to be one hour slow, but surely there must be some way that I can fix
this, so that Mandrake understands that the time is the same as shown by
the internal clock?  In other words: where do I set the time?

   DRX

Re: [newbie] Real rm?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 22 February 2001 01:46 pm, DRX wrote:
>  When I give the command "rm annoyingfile" I expect annoyingfile
> to disappear -- not to be asked
>  How do I change the function of rm to make it work the way I
> would like?

   in your  /home//.bashrcyou'll see some lines like these
~~
# User specific aliases and functions
alias rm='rm -i'
alias mv='mv -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias s='cd ..'
alias d='ls'
alias p='cd -'
~~
   The first one  "alias rm='rm -i'"  modifies the normal behavior of 
'rm' so that it asks you to confirm.  In the above, the same is true 
for 'mv' (move) and 'cp' (copy).  If you really want to change this 
(which I wouldn't suggest), put a pound sign '#' and a space in front 
of the statement.  eg,  # alias rm='rm -i'   and save the changes to 
the file. In the next terminal you start, 'rm' will no longer ask for a 
confirmation.  I'd also suggest you read the man pages for all the 
above aliases in .../.bashrc
-- 
Dale Earnhardt,  the greatest stock car driver ever.
  Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Galveston Bay

Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[goldenpi]

Just test the stick. I know a place that sells memory testers, but yuo can
do it the software way of through hardware switching.

First, remove the old stick and use just the new one. Now recompile the
kernel. Recompiling a kernel is one of the most memory sensitive things you
can do. If that works then so far so good. Now put in your new stick only
and compile again. If it fails then new stick is broken. Now both together.
If it fails then the sticks are incompatable.

- Original Message -
From: Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM


> On this subject of RAM incompatibility...
>
> I have a stick of RAM that someone gave me to boost me up past 64mb. When
I
> first installed it it would do ok, but then it would get where sometimes
it
> would show on boot up and others it wouldn't then (in evil windows since i
> haven't put it back after installing LM) my computer started popping up
more
> errors and illegals than it ever had before. When I pulled the RAM it went
> back to normal (for windows). Is there a way for me to find out if the 2
> sticks are just incompatible or if the 1 stick is just borked up?
>
>

[newbie] Fwd: kppp crashes

[John David Molina]

Hi there.

There is something wrong in my kpp configuration. It refuses to be runned by
a normal user. When I try (as a user) to run it, it crashes:

The terminal shows:
  KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
  KCrash: Application Name = kppp path = 

And a dialog box shows:
  The KPPP application failed with signal 11 (SIGSEGV)


The only way to run it is to be root or be su'ed as root. I modified the kppp
icon on my desktop from "kppp" to "kdesu kppp" and works fine. But my
question is: should it be so? Must I be root to run kppp? I don't feel
comfortable running it su'ed as root (can it be a security hole?).

By the way, the file permissions are
  -rwsr-xr-x1 root root   892184 oct 17 11:50 /usr/bin/kppp*

Thanks for your help.
--
John David Molina

Re: [newbie] Dual boot: Mandrake and NT question??

[eryl]

Michael wrote:
> 
> I actually installed Boot Magic along with Partition Magic and I lost
> access to my D Drive (NTFS), on the install.  I called PQ and they
> helped me straighten it out.  They said not to install Boot Magic until
> the Linux install was completed.  This is one of the reasons I asked if
> there were any more little surprises to expect.

> 
> I've read a tutorial about not installing LILO in the MBR, instead,
> configure LILO and place it on the Linux Primary partition.  But then it
> said to add a line in the NT boot.ini file, (C:\BOOTSECT.LIN="Now Linux
> is here")
> and use dd to create a boot record image(# dd if=/dev/hda3 bs=512
> count=1 of=/dosc/bootsect.lin), and boot from the NTLoader.  Is this
> what you are talking about?
> 
> Michael
> 

Exactly.  I've been using this method exclusively for quite a while, and
it works perfectly.  I also use this with W2K, I tried using lilo to
control the boot process with W2k on a couple of installs, but W2k
didn't like that at all.

here's the link to a how to:

http://morse.colorado.edu/itplab/ipv6/dualboot.html

[newbie] Help! Newbie needs help with bash script :(

[Steve Gulick]

I wrote a bash search script that creates a directory named after the search
word and greps all the files and copies the ones that match to the new
directory and generates a printed output of the file. To make a very long
story short I have about 150 more searches to perform and each one takes
between 10 and 15 mins searching over 12,000 files. This is the first bash
script I have evr written and I am sure it could be done better but it works
for me for now. What I really need is a quick and dirty way for the script
to pull the search words from a list so that I can go home tonight :)

The script is as follows:
==
# /bin/bash
mkdir ../success/"$1"
echo "" > ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
echo "###" >
../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
echo "###" >>
../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
echo "Files that contain the search string $1" >>
../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
echo "###" >>
../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
echo "###" >>
../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
echo "" >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump1* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump2* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump3* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump4* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump5* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump6* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump7* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump8* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" dump9* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" plow* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
grep -l "$1" excel* >> ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"
cp $(cat ../success/"$1"/"$1_success") ../success/"$1"
lpr -PBrother ../success/"$1"/"$1_success"



As you can see it is envoved by ./scriptname searchword

I would like to do it by ./scriptname searchlist

Could some one point me to a quick way to do this so I can get the heck out
of here?

A million TIA

Steve

[newbie] Installing new themes to KDE2.1 beta 2

[Romanator]

Hi everybody,

I seem to have run into road block. I would like to add some new themes.
However, when I click on the Add button in KDE Control Center->Themes,
it indicates that my .themesrc file is missing. I know it's there
because I opened the folder using tar. Is there another trick?

Thanks to all who have helped me out.

-- 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
The Tux email thread creator

[newbie] History Time (was: the origin's of bash?)

[Michael R. Batchelor]

OK, here are some history lessons. I know this is pretty far afield
of the bash question, but seems like a good place to bring it up.


These first ones are about Unix, which predates GNU and Linux.
Remember, Unix came from the telephone company, not a computer
company.

This is long and very good at explaining how things got here.


http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/TUHS/Mirror/Hauben/unix-Contents.html


These are shorter

http://vertigo.hsrl.rutgers.edu/ug/unix_history.html

http://www.rgs.vt.edu/unix_history.html


Here it is from the horse's mouth.

http://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/


These are about GNU, which predates Linux


Here's GNU from the horse's mouth. Not long, some good links.

http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-history.html


Here's GNU from the horse's whatever you think. (Hey, I like
the guy, but a lot of people don't. Particularly Microsoft.)

http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html


How GNU relates to Linux

http://www.ajug.org/info/tech/java-linux/history.html

http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html


And now Linux. Remember, Linux is just a kernel. LM 7.2 is a
distribution of Linux kernel and a bunch of GNU tools and a bunch of
other tools. (X, for example.)

Again, from the horse's mouth (These are the same text,
just in case one's not available when you look.)

http://www.unix-wizards.com/linux-history.html
http://www.li.org/linuxhistory.php


And other views

http://ragib.hypermart.net/linux/
http://gmml.slctech.org/~mackay/install-guide/node10.html

Re: [newbie] sorting konqueror(KDE) bookmarks

[Michael O'Henly]

Konqueror in the soon-to-be-released KDE 2.1 has a new bookmark editor with 
sorting. 

M.

On Thursday 22 February 2001 14:11, s wrote:
> It's all manual at this point.  I made folders to organize mine, but you
> can manually alphabetize, in order of importance, or whatever.  The point
> being - manually.  When your browser is open, click bookmarks, then edit.
> -s
>
> On Thursday 22 February 2001 01:27 pm, you wrote:
> > Greetings!
> >
> > Is there anyway to sort these?
> >
> > They just seem to be displayed in arbitrary order.. ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steven

-- 
Michael O'Henly
TENZO Design

Re: [newbie] Real time?

[Dave Sherman]

Run linuxconf, click the Control tab, click the Date & Time button.

Dave

On Thursday 22 February 2001 13:45, DRX wrote:
> The internal clock in the BIOS is set correctly, but Linux is one
> hour too fast.  I guess I could solve this by setting the internal
> clock in the BIOS to be one hour slow, but surely there must be some
> way that I can fix this, so that Mandrake understands that the time
> is the same as shown by the internal clock?  In other words: where do
> I set the time?
>
>DRX

-- 
Registered Linux User #197840

"Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum viditur."

Re: [newbie] "public" directory?

[Tea Pot]

You can only set one user as owner of a file/directory
but u can create group. If you have the default
mandrake installation, I think the dir /home is
already created. See it's permission by:

cd /home
ls -lag .
you will see the permission of entries in that
directory like 
.   ownergroup_owner "drwxrwxr_x"

The 1st bit of the permission "drwxrwxr_x" mean that
"." is a directory file, the next 3 bit rwx
mean that the owner of . have the right to read,
write, and enter this directory. The next 3 bit
discribe the same permission for the member of the
group, and the rest of the user have only right for
read and enter this directory.

To enable the right for writing in this directory you
can change the permission of . to "drwxrwxrwx" that
mean every body is allowed to read write execute the
file "." (this directory, execute a directory mean to
enter it).
I'm not so sure, there is a standard group which
belongs to every user (group all). As root u can
change the group-owner of /home to belong to all 

# chgrp /home all
# chmod g+rwx /home

Every user will then have rwx permission in /home
caused of their belongness to the group all. You can
also create a particular group by (see man grp or
group) and change the permission of file/directory to
set special permission to that particular group only.

See also:
man chown, chmod, chgrp, useradd/adduser, umask

I suggest not to set the permission rwxrwxrwx for
/home but create /home/pub instead for the users
directory sharing purpose. Like
mkdir /home/pub
cd /home/pub
mkdir bin src docs share lib etc gif pics
cd ..
chmod -R ug+rwx pub
chmod -R o+rx pub

Read a unix book ;)~
he he

--- DRX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I want to have a directory in /home which every
> user can get to, and
> put files in as well as take files from.  Who should
> I set as owner?  Is
> there some kind of function so that I can set
> "anyone" as owner?
> 
> 
>   DRX


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Re: [newbie] Real rm?

[Michael O'Henly]

On Thursday 22 February 2001 11:46, DRX wrote:
>  When I give the command "rm annoyingfile" I expect annoyingfile to
> disappear -- not to be asked

> rm: remove 'annoyingfile'?

>  What's the point of asking that?  I wouldn't have given the command rm
> if I didn't want to remove annoyingfile, would I?

If you want to live dangerously, you can use "rm -f annoyingfile". Another 
command you should know is "man [commandname]". For example, "man rm" tells 
you all the options for the command, including "-f". 

Keep in mind that Linux doesn't provide any mechanism for undeleting data. 
The "are you sure" prompt is there to save you from yourself. 

>  How do I change the function of rm to make it work the way I would
> like?

If you REALLY want to live dangerously, you can create an alias something 
like:

alias rmf = "rm -f"

Put this in your .bashrc file. Then use the command "rmf" instead of "rm" and 
it will do what you're asking.

M.

-- 
Michael O'Henly
TENZO Design

Re: [newbie] HOW TO START LINUX

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Thursday 22 February 2001 16:41, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have installed the LIN4WIN and everything went well until it
> asked me for my login name and password which was fine and then
> it asked for this [myloginname@host ]$ or something like that
> and I dont know what to press/type.
>
> I tried startx and my screen went blank and presses ctrl + alt +
> backspace and the screen came back on but to the same problem..
>
> Please help me
To stay out of X just pressor F2 upto 6. Login 
as root or user or not at all whatever. Then check out your name 
-it's on the last line on the right of the penguin. probaply 
localhost.localdomain of some sort.
give that to win4lin to chew on. It shouldn't be that important :o)
-- 
Semper avanti,sailing on Linux,
Harm Bathoorn Free evermore.
Hoek. NL.
   |~>
   |  _
  ___|__.__\_|_||_...
  \___\_|__||_|__|__
  _\_Triade__NL__/

Re: [newbie] the origin's of bash?

[Michael R. Batchelor]

>> http://www.d.kth.se/~d96-jja/bash/bashtut.html#history
>> Basically it's the GNU replacement for sh.
>> > Does anyone know where bash came from?
>Origenally there was the bourne shell in unix, when linus needed a
shell
>he revived it,improved it and called it the bourne again shell or
bash
>!!


Jeez, RMS is pulling his hair out! Check the link above. It's not
from Linus; he's responsible for the kernel. It's from the GNU
project, and the name is a joke. (Bourne again shell) It couldn't be
called a Bourne shell, which is what shipped from AT&T, but it's a
drop in replacement superset of the old Bourne shell. All the old !sh
scripts I've ever tried run correctly under bash, and /bin/sh is
usually a link to bash.

MB

Re: [newbie] Dual boot: Mandrake and NT question??

[Michael]

I actually installed Boot Magic along with Partition Magic and I lost
access to my D Drive (NTFS), on the install.  I called PQ and they
helped me straighten it out.  They said not to install Boot Magic until
the Linux install was completed.  This is one of the reasons I asked if
there were any more little surprises to expect.

I've read a tutorial about not installing LILO in the MBR, instead,
configure LILO and place it on the Linux Primary partition.  But then it
said to add a line in the NT boot.ini file, (C:\BOOTSECT.LIN="Now Linux
is here")
and use dd to create a boot record image(# dd if=/dev/hda3 bs=512
count=1 of=/dosc/bootsect.lin), and boot from the NTLoader.  Is this
what you are talking about?

Michael


eryl wrote:
> 
> If you've installed boot magic and are booting the ntloader from it, it
> will be a piece of cake.  Don't use DiskDrak to format your partitions
> though, use the existing formatted partitions you made with partition
> magic and just assign them / and /home and /swap, etc. and don't put
> lilo in the mbr.  For some reason, a couple of times I had a problem
> with the partition table (as viewed from partition magic) if I formatted
> the already partition magic created ext2 partitions with DiskDrak.  The
> installation worked fine and boot magic worked fine, but partition magic
> would no longer load.  The last dozen or so times I've used the NT
> bootloader instead, it is a bit more difficult but eliminates the need
> for more software.

-- 
Michael Lewis   
Registered Linux User #197864

Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?

[Goldenpi]

- Original Message -
From: "John David Molina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?


> El Martes 20 Febrero 2001 11:39, escribiste:
>
> > -
> > Windows is a virus.
> > -
>
>
> I disagree. Virus DO something right. ;-)

Also, virus run useing minimal resources and with tidy and efficiant code.
Windows runs with all resources available and then some, and has bloted 500
meg of stuff in its directory.
> --
> John David Molina
>

Re: [newbie] sorting konqueror(KDE) bookmarks

[s]

It's all manual at this point.  I made folders to organize mine, but you can 
manually alphabetize, in order of importance, or whatever.  The point being - 
manually.  When your browser is open, click bookmarks, then edit.
-s

On Thursday 22 February 2001 01:27 pm, you wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> Is there anyway to sort these?
>
> They just seem to be displayed in arbitrary order.. ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steven

Re: [newbie] Floppy and Cdrom problems

[Alan Shoemaker]

Jake Hanz wrote:
> Does anybody klnow why when I installed Mandrake 7.2 my
> floppy and cdrom are locked, even to root! Mandrake 7.1
> works fine, but 7.2 has got some issues with my drives.
> Help!
>
> Linux Lunatic
> a.k.a. Seth Hanzik

Seththat's a normal mount point for 'supermount'ed 
devices.  When there's no media in the drive the KDE icon 
will be a file folder with a padlock, but when there's 
readable media in the drive the padlock will dissapear (you 
may have to refresh/reload to see the change).
-- 
Alan

[newbie] Real rm?

[DRX]

 When I give the command "rm annoyingfile" I expect annoyingfile to
disappear -- not to be asked

rm: remove 'annoyingfile'?

 What's the point of asking that?  I wouldn't have given the command rm
if I didn't want to remove annoyingfile, would I?

 How do I change the function of rm to make it work the way I would like?

  DRX

[newbie] "public" directory?

[DRX]

 I want to have a directory in /home which every user can get to, and
put files in as well as take files from.  Who should I set as owner?  Is
there some kind of function so that I can set "anyone" as owner?

   DRX

[newbie] Still no development packages

[DRX]

>Have a look at http://www.rpmfind.net. You can use packages labelled
>"Mandrake". Mandrake Cooker and Red Hat use RPM 4, which is
>incompatible with Mandrake 7.2's RPM 3. To use these, you will have to
>download and compile the source (.src.rpm) packages.
>
 www.rpmfind.net says "No package found of name
XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm."  Since I don't know the name of the
other package, I don't know what to type in the search field to look for
that one.  The AfterStep people only told me "I don't know how the other
one called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics
libraries."  To somebody with an extensive and intimate knowledge of
packages for the Unix/Linux environment, this might mean something, but I
am a complete newbie, and I don't know anything.

   DRX
>
>On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:44, DRX wrote:
>> I need two packages: one called
>> "XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm," and the other was described
>> like this: "I don't know how the other one called, but it should be
>> for headers for development with graphics libraries."
>>
>>  Where do I find these packages?  Somewhere at the Mandrake FTP
>> site? Or are they included somewhere on the CD?  If so, how do I
>> find them?
>>
>>  The reason I need them is that I would like to use AfterStep,
>> and I have been told by the AfterStep people that I need to get
>> these two packages in order to be able to use AfterStep -- even
>> though I chose "everything" when I installed Mandrake.
>>
>> DRX
>
>--
>Sridhar Dhanapalan.
>   "There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
>   LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
>   -- Jeremy S. Anderson

Re: [newbie] the origin's of bash?

[Stefaans Mostert]

Anthony wrote:
> 
> http://www.d.kth.se/~d96-jja/bash/bashtut.html#history
> 
> Basically it's the GNU replacement for sh.
> 
> > Does anyone know where bash came from?
> 
> --
> Anthony
> http://binaryfusion.net
> Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
Origenally there was the bourne shell in unix, when linus needed a shell
he revived it,improved it and called it the bourne again shell or bash
!!

Cheers

Re: [newbie] No Internet access 2

[DRX]

>>  Yes.  /etc/resolv.conf included only two lines, and those are:
>>
>> search localdomain
>> nameserver 212.109.1.50
>>
>>
>>  The "nameserver" line contains the correct address to my DNS.  Perhaps
>> it shouldn't read "search localdomain" though?  Could this be the problem?
>==
>Yes, yes!  Change the search line to
>search 
>
 I hope  meant that I should write my ISP's DNS on the
"search" line as well, because I don't know my ISP's IP number.  I have
never needed to know my ISP's IP number since everything has worked anyway.

>Also, see if you can find a second dns# and add a second "nameserver" line
>HTH,
>Mike

 I added the DNS for another ISP I could have used (since I have an
account there as well), but it didn't work anyway.  Finally I added a new
account, and set this for the other ISP, and that worked!  The problem is
not with the ISP though, because this is sent through the first, the
original, ISP.

 DRX

[newbie] Real time?

[DRX]

 The internal clock in the BIOS is set correctly, but Linux is one hour
too fast.  I guess I could solve this by setting the internal clock in the
BIOS to be one hour slow, but surely there must be some way that I can fix
this, so that Mandrake understands that the time is the same as shown by
the internal clock?  In other words: where do I set the time?

   DRX

[newbie] sorting konqueror(KDE) bookmarks

[Steven Boothe]

Greetings!

Is there anyway to sort these?

They just seem to be displayed in arbitrary order.. ?

Thanks,

Steven

Re: [newbie] Dual boot: Mandrake and NT question??

[eryl]

If you've installed boot magic and are booting the ntloader from it, it
will be a piece of cake.  Don't use DiskDrak to format your partitions
though, use the existing formatted partitions you made with partition
magic and just assign them / and /home and /swap, etc. and don't put
lilo in the mbr.  For some reason, a couple of times I had a problem
with the partition table (as viewed from partition magic) if I formatted
the already partition magic created ext2 partitions with DiskDrak.  The
installation worked fine and boot magic worked fine, but partition magic
would no longer load.  The last dozen or so times I've used the NT
bootloader instead, it is a bit more difficult but eliminates the need
for more software. 


Michael wrote:
> 
> I have a Dell Lattitude CPX Laptop running NT Workstation 4.0.  I want
> to install Linux, and have defragged my drives and installed Partition
> Magic 5.0 to re-partition the NTFS file system and have created my
> rescue disks and the system backed up.
> 
> Is there anything anything else I should be aware of, specific to NT,
> before attempting the install?  I have already installed Mandrake on my
> desktop which is also running Win95 and that went relatively smooth.
> Just checking;-)
> --
> Michael Lewis
> Registered Linux User #197864

Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking

[Alan Shoemaker]

goldenpi wrote:
> Im still useing OE and I still use HTML. The options all
> say plain text but HTLM it is. I suspect that my settings
> are being ignored because OE wants to put links on the
> email addresses.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and
> networking
>
> > Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> > > Alan:
> > > Yes, it is in good old plain honest-to-goodness
> > > non-html readable-everywhere format, just like it's
> > > supposed to be. -- cmg
> > >
> > > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > > > I just went to a WinME box and configured Outlook
> > > > Express. There were 3 settings in the 'send' tab to
> > > > tell it to send in 'plain text'.  Is this in 'plain
> > > > text'? Hope so.
> >
> > Carrollthanks :-)  This was actually intended for
> > carjam/goldenpi who said he (they?) was (were) stuck with
> > using HTML because he was stuck with using Outlook
> > Express.
> >
> > So I tried Outlook Express out to see if it would output
> > messages in plain text and to report what settings I
> > used.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> > --
> > Alan

goldenpiYour message (the message I'm replying to) is in 
plain text.  What makes you think that you are posting in 
HTML?
-- 
Alan

Re: [newbie] pppd dies ????????

[angry]

edit /etc/ppp/options
add the line

noauth

that'll fix it

Liz wrote:

> hi
> everytime i try to get online i get "the pppd daemon died unexpectedly" with
> the blow log file
>
> Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: By default the remote system is
> required to authenticate itself
> Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: (because this system has a default
> route to the internet)
> Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret
> (password) for it to use to do so.
> Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: (None of the available passwords would
> let it use an IP address.)
>
> if i then try to dial up as root i get the same problem with a different
> debug log
>
> Feb 22 14:19:22 localhost pppd[3854]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
> Feb 22 14:19:22 localhost pppd[3854]: Using interface ppp0
> Feb 22 14:19:22 localhost pppd[3854]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
> Feb 22 14:19:25 localhost pppd[3854]: Peer is not authorized to use remote
> address 212.161.112.68
> Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Connection terminated.
> Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Connect time 0.1 minutes.
> Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Sent 311 bytes, received 295 bytes.
> Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Exit.
>
> in both cases it dials up and handshakes ok but fails at the last bit,
>
> i dont know if this is important or not but i have been trying to get a lan
> setup between this and my own  pc
> using the network configuration tool in drakconf
> thankz
> David

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[newbie] How do I set up by COM ports? - jrt

[John Turnbull]

I an setting up a stratum 1 ntp server using a GPS as a reference clock.
To do this, the GPS talks to the computer through one serial port for
the time information and a second serial port for a pps (pulse per
second) signal to condition the computer's clock.

The default serial port configuration for the GPS is 4800 8N1 with no
flow control. I can monitor the GPS 'sentences', from the command line
with:

 stty --file /dev/ttyS0 4800 igncr 
 cat /dev/ttyS0

or I cam use minicom, and monitor the data whether flow control is on or
off.

(BTW: the output data looks something like this:
$GPGSV,3,1,11,01,00,000,,02,00,000,,03,00,000,,25,00,000,*7C
$GPGSV,3,2,11,26,00,000,,27,00,000,,28,00,000,,29,00,000,*78
$GPGSV,3,3,11,30,00,000,,31,00,000,,32,00,000,*49
$PGRME,,*4D
$GPRMC,142410,V,2503.715)

The problem is that you occasionally need to talk to the GPS as well
through the first serial port.

I can do this with minicom, because I can turn off flow control, but I
cannot do it from the command line and when I exit minicom, it resets
the
port with flow control turned on.

A command sentence, say to turn off the $PGRMC sentence above that
contains no useful data, would look like:

$PGRMO,PGRME,0

To make matters worse, the command sentence must end with a  or
0D 0A hex.

The questions:

How do I configure the serial ports from the command line (or a shell
script) or change the default setup on boot? They need to be 4800 8N1
flow control none.

How do I generate a carriage return, line feed from the command line so
that a command like:

cat \$PGRMO,PGRME,0 > /dev/ttyS0

would work? Specifically, is there an escape or Alt key sequence that
will generate the code for carriage return and line feed?

Thank you for the help.  John T

Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake Dial-UP

[Tim Holmes]

Frank,

You may be right, but I was under the impression that /dev/modem
actually scanned the COM ports for a modem, once it found it, it then
went from there.  And it took longer.  I switched mine to, when I was
using a modem, to the actual device and it got a dial tone and dialed
"faster."

I just looked on my Linux box that actually still has a modem on it, and
here's what it gives me when I was looked for /dev/modem.

[timh@yoda /dev]$ ls -la m
mcd md16md25md6 mdsp15  mdspstat
mixer
mcdxmd17md26md7 mdsp16  mem
mixer1
md0 md18md27md8 mdsp2   midi0
mmetfgrab
md1 md19md28md9 mdsp3   midi00
mouse
md10md2 md29mdsp1   mdsp4   midi01
mpu401data
md11md20md3 mdsp10  mdsp5   midi02
mpu401stat
md12md21md30mdsp11  mdsp6   midi03
msmouse
md13md22md31mdsp12  mdsp7   midi1
music
md14md23md4 mdsp13  mdsp8   midi2
md15md24md5 mdsp14  mdsp9   midi3


There's nothing in there modem at all.  So where it actually finds the
modem... is a mystery to me... 
tdh
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* Franki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010222 11:16]:
> I thought /dev/modem was a symbolic link to the correct port if you have it
> configured properly,,, it is in mine,,,
> 
> if you chech the /dev/modem link, it should point dirctly to /dev/ttys*
> (depending on what you have your modem plugged into.) I was under the
> impression that it was just an easy way to have lots of apps use the modem
> without having to specify the port in each one...
> 
> rgds
> 
> Frank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Tim Holmes
> Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 12:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake Dial-UP
> 
> 
> Fortunately, I no longer have to dial in with Mandrake 7.2, but for the
> duration of my dial up use with it, I used kppp.  Which I found very
> useful and didn't cause many application problems like other KDE apps
> did.  I would suggest using that.  It stayed connected with no problem
> and I rarely had problems with it disconnecting.
> 
> Then again I was using a V.90 external modem, and know to shy away from
> Rockwell modems on a whole!  The modems can connect a high speeds, but
> they act a lot like an X2 modem in the fact that they are so aggressive
> in how they renegotiate with the remote site, which disconnects very
> frequently.  I've had several problems with that Rockwell modem, but at
> times concerned that the machine wasn't handling packets very well since
> I recieved a high number of random disconnects with another USB modem.
> 
> But before I get lost in my own person info you don't need, :0), I
> suggest trying kppp.  It runs smoothly and is easly configured as well.
> Make sure you go and change the device name to the actual devices name.
> Using /dev/modem slows the connection time because it queries all the
> ports looking for a modem.  I've heard this affects other periphials
> attached to these ports.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> tdh
> --
> T. Holmes
> Unixtechs.org
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.unixtechs.org/
> 
> "Real Men use Vi."

Re: [newbie] pppd dies ????????

[David Nelson]

On Thursday 22 February 2001 09:09 am, Liz wrote:
> hi
> everytime i try to get online i get "the pppd daemon died unexpectedly"
> with the blow log file
>
> Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: By default the remote system is
> required to authenticate itself

Check out the instructions at tht following url, with their help I was able 
to get ppp working and dialing on demand with little problem. BTW reading the 
pppd and chat man pages will probably help also. The docs for ppp which are 
in /usr/share/doc/ppp-2.4.0, are also worth a look.


HTH
David Nelson

[newbie] switching between two color mode

[Rooms Frédéric]

Hi,

  I've got an application that needs to be run in 256 colors.  The problem is 
that I work normally in 65536 colors.  Has anybody an idea to solve this 
problem (of course I can change each time I use it but it is very annoying).

Thanks a lot

Frédéric

[newbie] Intel AN430TX Onboard Sound

[Domitian X]

Anybody know where I can get drivers for the built in sound on the Intel 
AN430TX board?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake Dial-UP

[Tim Holmes]

Fortunately, I no longer have to dial in with Mandrake 7.2, but for the
duration of my dial up use with it, I used kppp.  Which I found very
useful and didn't cause many application problems like other KDE apps
did.  I would suggest using that.  It stayed connected with no problem
and I rarely had problems with it disconnecting.

Then again I was using a V.90 external modem, and know to shy away from
Rockwell modems on a whole!  The modems can connect a high speeds, but
they act a lot like an X2 modem in the fact that they are so aggressive
in how they renegotiate with the remote site, which disconnects very
frequently.  I've had several problems with that Rockwell modem, but at
times concerned that the machine wasn't handling packets very well since
I recieved a high number of random disconnects with another USB modem.

But before I get lost in my own person info you don't need, :0), I
suggest trying kppp.  It runs smoothly and is easly configured as well.
Make sure you go and change the device name to the actual devices name.
Using /dev/modem slows the connection time because it queries all the
ports looking for a modem.  I've heard this affects other periphials
attached to these ports.

Hope that helps.
tdh
--
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Unixtechs.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.unixtechs.org/

"Real Men use Vi."


* Brandon Dienar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010218 11:31]:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Hopefully someone will be able to assist with the problem I'm currently
> experiencing in Linux Mandrake 7.2.
> 
> I'm trying to do a dial-up to my local ISP using PPP with Rockwell chipset
> modem, using GnomePPP. The modem appears to be dialing up just fine,
> connects and goes through the authentication but disconnects straight
> afterwards. It does not seem to stay connected long enough to even load up a
> mail client or browser.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> Brandon

[newbie] webmin help anyone??

[Franki]

Hi all, 

When I try to access webmin over the net, I get an access denied message...

on localhost it works,,,

I am using https://123.456.234.321:1

can anyone tell me what I have done wrong?

regards


Frank
Perth WA

Re: [newbie] How do i install 3c90x for my 3c905b NIC ?

[Tim Holmes]

Having just gone through a lot of really annoying and stresfull NIC
problems dealing with both 3c905B-TX-NM and 3c509B-TX, I'm pretty sure I
know the woes you're experiencing.  Here's what I went through.

At the time, my machine was a dual boot, the NIC worked in Winbloze, but
not in Linux.  I downloaded two files from 3com that gave me some 3com
DOS config tools.  I'd use a Win98 boot disk, boot into DOS, then eject
the floppy.  I'd insert the floppy that held the two config tools.  One
config tool was for the older 3c509x card, and the other came from the
CD that came with the recently bought 3c905B-TX-NM card.  From there I
started running the tools.

In windows it gave the card IRQ 10. (that's after a few BIOS edits and
what not of course.)  But in DOS it told me I didn't have a network card
in my machine.  I tried the other tool, which is more updated and works
for older cards.  It again told me I had no card in the machine.

Well the motherboards gives that information.  I tried to manually enter
the IRQ and the I/O info in /etc/modules.conf but it still wouldn't come
up in a ifconfig.

After moving the cards around in different PCI slots, I had both cards
in the machine, and it recognized both of them.  That way I knew that
the motherboards recognized them 100% through the hardware, which is
important.  Windows uses software to extract that information.  

Using those two tools, I trial and error found out what slot the NIC had
to be in and Linux now recognizes the card just fine.

If you'd like, I can email you those two tools if you'd like, they
aren't very big, but they aren't small enough to both fit on a Win98
boot disk.  You could also download them from 3com's site. 

I tried to install that same driver from the 3com tar.gz file, and I got
the same error.  In the end, I didn't need it.

Hope that helps, let me know if you need those tools sent.
tdh
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* Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010208 13:24]:
> i downloaded one a kernel module 3c90x from 3com site today. But when i try
> to run the pre-compiled version of it. it give me an error message:
> 
>  Attempting to install the 2.2.17-21mdk version of the 3c90x
>  driver module.
>  You are running the 2.2.17-21mdk version of kernel release...
>  The 3c90x driver module was not built for this kernel release.
>  You will need to compile the driver yourself.
>  Installation of 3c90x driver module failed.
> 
> then i tried to compile the 3c90x.c file with the gcc
> but again i get an error message: (the err msg is very long, below is just
> the start)
> 
>  In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:13,
>   from 3c90x.h:37,
>   from 3c90x.c:1:
>  /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: parse error before `clock_t'
>  /usr/include/linux/times.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or
> union
>  /usr/include/linux/times.h:6: warning: data definition has no type or
> storage class
>  /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: parse error before `tms_cutime'
>  /usr/include/linux/times.h:7: warning: data definition has no type or
> storage class
>  /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: parse error before `tms_cstime'
>  /usr/include/linux/times.h:8: warning: data definition has no type or
> storage class
>  In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:142,
>   from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14,
>   from 3c90x.h:37,
>   from 3c90x.c:1:
>  .
>  .
> Do i need to install something before i can do the "gcc" thing?
> i want to give the 3c90x module a try.
> what should i do now??

RE: [newbie] Real rm?

[Franki]

yeah and if you accidenly slip when someone calls you, and your are su'd to
root, and you put a little asterix in there,, things would get really
interesting...

I like having a last chance,,

just my opinion.. you can't be to safe,, thats why its unwise to be root
unless you have too.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Meph Istopheles
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2001 10:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Real rm?


  Hey,

>  When I give the command "rm annoyingfile" I expect
> annoyingfile to disappear -- not to be asked

> rm: remove 'annoyingfile'?

>  What's the point of asking that?  I wouldn't have given
> the command rm if I didn't want to remove annoyingfile, would
> I?

>  How do I change the function of rm to make it work the way
> I would like?

  This one bothered me too (read "drove me nuts") till I finally
looked in ~./.bashrc.  It appears MandrakeSoft chose to make an
alias for rm to rm='rm -i' which is for interactive.  I suppose
to gear toward the total 'puter newbie.

  You can either remove the alias or, as I'd done, switch it to
rm='rm -f' which is for force, ie, no questions asked.

  Meph

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Re: [newbie] X Windows Crash!

[Altoine B.]

Dave Esquer wrote:
> 
> I have installed Mandrake7.2  on my machine. The install was great, and the
> overall feel much better than RedHat7, my compliments! All of the
> applications and KDE2.0 and Gnome 1.2 are a real plus to a newbie like me!
> 
> My machine lost power in a snowstorm. It rebooted and now I am unable to
> restart KDE or any other X interface. I can log in via the terminal
> (console) without problem but the command startx doesn't start X. It gives
> me error messages. I tried Xconfigurator again as root but it too gave me
> errors with my card and monitor setup screen showing "unknown". Even with
> Xconfgurator fixed again to the proper monitor and graphics card, startx
> still doesn't any X windowing system. I get errors about "fixed fonts" not
> available (I think). The XFree versions on my system are 3.3.6 and 4.0.1.
> 
> When shutting down after this crash, the Mandrake Aurora graphical
> interface says unable to shutdown the "X Font Server", it had an "x"on
> it!  Reinstalling Linux fixes the problem but when I install Netscape 6,
> the same thing happened. I now have Netscape 6.0.1 but have not installed
> it yet.
> 
> The command
>   /usr/sbin/chksession -l
> gives me KDE, Gnome, IceWM, Sawfish, default and failsafe as options. I
> know that issuing the command startx xxx (where xxx is one of those windows
> managers) should start one of these sessions, but it doesn't work after the
> crash.
> 
> My graphics card is an ATI Xpert98 (8 megs, Mach64 chipset), machine is a
> K6-400 with 128 megs, plenty of disk space (30gb).
> 
> Is X-windows so delicate (I don't think so), or is my video card the
> problem or ? Can I save some configuration files somewhere to overwrite
> corrupt ones when this happens again? I hate to keep reintalling linux - I
> know that this is an overkill approach!
> 
> This (Windoz refugee) newbie says TIA,
> Dave
> --
>   Remember, the Ark was built by experimenters and the Titanic by experts!


You can do one of many things. First, let us check your font server
(xfs) status.

(as root)
/sbin/service xfs status

If it says something to the effect of;

xfs (pid 659) is running...

Issue this command next

(as root)
/sbin/service xfs restart

then rerun your X server:

startx

If you don't have your xfs server running, input this command:

(as root)
/sbin/service xfs start

then run your X server:

startx

If your X server still will not load, try this "soft" hack using your
favorite editor:

(as root)
Open up your XF86Config-4 file and go to the line:

FontPath   "unix/:-1"

uncomment this line. It should look like this:

#FontPath   "unix/:-1"

Save and quit out of the editor. Restart your X server once again:

startx

I guarantee that this should make it work. If I am wrong, you can call
me Susan! LoL (still do this as a last resort)

Once your X server is running again, you can recomment your FontPath
once again:

(as root using your favorite editor)
go back to the line:

#FontPath   "unix/:-1"

and remove the uncomment:

FontPath   "unix/:-1"

Save and quit. Your X server shall now run as good as new.


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RE: [newbie] system sounds

[Hugo GONZALEZ]

The same thing happened to me. Never knew why. Then one day I installed Helix Gnome 
and I got system sounds working.

Hugo


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>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:55 AM
>To: Linux-Mandrake
>Subject: [newbie] system sounds
>
>
>I can't get any system sounds...
>I hear Licq sounds, MP3s, midi's, wavs...if clicked on separately...
>but not any systems sounds...why?
>
>do i need to install ALSA 
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[newbie] HOW TO START LINUX

[Kuljit Singh]

Hi,

I have installed the LIN4WIN and everything went well until it asked me for
my login name and password which was fine and then it asked for this
[myloginname@host ]$ or something like that and I dont know what to
press/type.

I tried startx and my screen went blank and presses ctrl + alt + backspace
and the screen came back on but to the same problem..

Please help me
- Original Message -
From: "Dale Kosan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] boot.ini


> Well, not as easy as one would think. I have NT and Linux at work on same
the
> machine, along with 98 and 2000.Maybe someone else knows away.I could post
> the procedure givin to me if you like. The one thing is you should be
running
> lilo.Let me know if you would like the info and I will post from work
today...
>

[newbie] pppd dies ????????

[Liz]

hi
everytime i try to get online i get "the pppd daemon died unexpectedly" with
the blow log file

Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: By default the remote system is
required to authenticate itself
Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: (because this system has a default
route to the internet)
Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret
(password) for it to use to do so.
Feb 21 22:22:18 localhost pppd[943]: (None of the available passwords would
let it use an IP address.)


if i then try to dial up as root i get the same problem with a different
debug log

Feb 22 14:19:22 localhost pppd[3854]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
Feb 22 14:19:22 localhost pppd[3854]: Using interface ppp0
Feb 22 14:19:22 localhost pppd[3854]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Feb 22 14:19:25 localhost pppd[3854]: Peer is not authorized to use remote
address 212.161.112.68
Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Connection terminated.
Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Connect time 0.1 minutes.
Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Sent 311 bytes, received 295 bytes.
Feb 22 14:19:26 localhost pppd[3854]: Exit.

in both cases it dials up and handshakes ok but fails at the last bit,

i dont know if this is important or not but i have been trying to get a lan
setup between this and my own  pc
using the network configuration tool in drakconf
thankz
David

Re: [newbie] Real rm?

[Meph Istopheles]

  Hey,

>  When I give the command "rm annoyingfile" I expect
> annoyingfile to disappear -- not to be asked

> rm: remove 'annoyingfile'?

>  What's the point of asking that?  I wouldn't have given
> the command rm if I didn't want to remove annoyingfile, would
> I?

>  How do I change the function of rm to make it work the way
> I would like?

  This one bothered me too (read "drove me nuts") till I finally
looked in ~./.bashrc.  It appears MandrakeSoft chose to make an
alias for rm to rm='rm -i' which is for interactive.  I suppose
to gear toward the total 'puter newbie.

  You can either remove the alias or, as I'd done, switch it to
rm='rm -f' which is for force, ie, no questions asked.

  Meph

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  -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux

RE: [newbie] Execute Programs

[Owens, Blaine C]

If the first line of the script is:

#!/path/to/perl

then it is not necessary.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Rodríguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Execute Programs


I thought that to run a perl script (i.e. "foo.pl") you needed to write
"perl foo.pl".  Is this wrong?

-Paul R

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Édison Andrés
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:54 PM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject: [newbie] Execute Programs


Hello everybody.

I have a problem with my linux.  When I try execute a program make in C
or Perl (I not probe with others languages), the shell shows: "command
not found".

The files have permission for executable (755) and when I execute like a
cgi programs, the navigator shows the result without problems.

I think (In the case of Perl) that i need put the Perl like a Enviroment
Variable, but I don't know how can i do this.

Any idea?

--
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Departamento de Informática
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medellín - Colombia
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[newbie] excellent xinetd stuff to look at people,,

[Franki]

http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/November2000/article175.shtml

This gives a great easy to read description of xinetd and how to use it.. 

very handy, I learend heaps of its features that I didn't know about...

[newbie] TextConfig or SVGATextMode

[Meph Istopheles]

  I'd found this some time ago & went to play with it today, but
ther're neither /etc/TexConfig nor SVGATextMode on my system.  Is
there an lm7.2 specific way to change the console res?

  Meph

Text Mode - Resolution

  There is a nifty utility called SVGATextMode that lets you
really tweak your text mode console to fit your monitor and
viewing habits. Say you've got that shiny new 21" monitor, and
you fire up your favorite O/S, Linux. Great! The problem is,
80x25 standard mode looks a little rediculous on such a huge
monitor! Through LILO, you can set various other sizes based on
standard text modes via the "vga=" option. If you want to see
what's available on your system, just put "vga=ask" into your
/etc/lilo.conf file, run lilo to update your system, reboot, and
watch the screen; you'll see some new options. When you find the
number for the size you like, replace "ask" with the number you
want. That's it!

  Thing is, these are all basic text modes, and are quite limited
in choice. Suppose you've got a hot video card going with that
monitor (I hope so!). With the SVGATextMode program I mentioned,
you can run exotic resolutions and different fonts! I run my
system at home at 132x25 resolution on a 17" monitor. If I had a
20" I would run at 132x60! Play with settings by checking out the
/etc/TextConfig file. This lists the resolutions and information
for your video card, which you should definately customize for
your system. Write down some resolutions you like, and at the
prompt, try them out with "SVGATextMode 132x25" (use your
values!) and when you settle on one, type in "savetextmode" to
save it. You can also set your default resolution in the
/etc/TextConfig file; look for it about half way down, above the
resolution listings. This is bound to make console/text mode life
much better!

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RE: [newbie] Execute Programs

[Paul Rodríguez]

I thought that to run a perl script (i.e. "foo.pl") you needed to write
"perl foo.pl".  Is this wrong?

-Paul R

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Édison Andrés
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:54 PM
To: Linux Novatos
Subject: [newbie] Execute Programs


Hello everybody.

I have a problem with my linux.  When I try execute a program make in C
or Perl (I not probe with others languages), the shell shows: "command
not found".

The files have permission for executable (755) and when I execute like a
cgi programs, the navigator shows the result without problems.

I think (In the case of Perl) that i need put the Perl like a Enviroment
Variable, but I don't know how can i do this.

Any idea?

--
Édison Andrés Rivera Noreña
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Departamento de Informática
Universidad de San Buenaventura
Medellín - Colombia
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RE: [newbie] Installation Recommendations

[Paul Rodríguez]

A /home partition is very useful if you need to reinstall or have an major
problems on your system, because you can format your other partitions, and
not loose any personal files.

-Paul R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Scottaline
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation Recommendations



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> i would advise you two only have two partitions, /usr and /
>
> / should be slightly smaller than /usr
>
> Hope this helps!
>
=
I would add one for /home
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RE: [newbie] Re: How to find packages?

[Paul Rodríguez]

Did they tell you the names of these packages?
If you have the names, you can try to find them on http://www.rpmfind.net

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DRX
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Re: How to find packages?


>use the package manager in drakeconf, and install afterstep, you should
find
>that it will tell you what packages you need and automaticaly install them
>for you..
>
>hope this helps.
>
 Thank you for your help, but no, unfortunately it doesn't help.  When
I installed Mandrake I also installed AfterStep, and it worked just fine.
The problem is that I stupidly tried to upgrade AfterStep to a later
version.  What happened then was that AfterStep stopped working altogether,
and when I asked the AfterStep people about this, they told me that I
needed to install some additional packages.  So you see the packages needed
to run the version of AfterStep included on the Mandrake CD are not enough.
That does not mean that the packages I need are not included on that CD
though -- they may well be -- it just means that I don't know how to go
about to find them.

DRX
>-Original Message-
>
>I need two packages: one called "XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm,"
>and the other was described like this: "I don't know how the other one
>called, but it should be for headers for development with graphics
>libraries."
>
> Where do I find these packages?  Somewhere at the Mandrake FTP site?
>Or are they included somewhere on the CD?  If so, how do I find them?
>
> The reason I need them is that I would like to use AfterStep, and I
>have been told by the AfterStep people that I need to get these two
>packages in order to be able to use AfterStep -- even though I chose
>"everything" when I installed Mandrake.
>
>DRX



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RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM



This is the 
funny thing about my situation, no crashes, no weird things going on, I just 
can't get linux to recognize my ram. The system doesn't even seem to run any 
slower, transfers of web pages and searches are as fast as ever. I am thinking 
motherboard, so I will try suggested test of putting the ram in another box and 
see if it causes problems there. Two of the sticks are only a couple of months 
old and I should be able to exhchange them if I can determine good or 
bad.
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
Behalf Of Mark JohnsonSent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:58 
AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [newbie] 
Testing for bad RAM
Naa, I 
can't believe this, I have a 256 stick that crashed three computers continuously 
and it counted up in the bios just fine in all three.  This 128 stick isn't 
quite so ruthless on me but linux apps keep crashing on me left and right and 
weird things like the logout won't work sometimes in X...

  -Original Message-From: Myers, Dennis R NWO 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February 
  20, 2001 2:20 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
  I've been told by local computer techs that if your 
  bios sees the ram at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on 
  the first screen that shows your primary  and secondary IDE devices 
  and  you can hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and 
  should be functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their 
  advice.
  -Original 
  Message- From:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent:   Tuesday, February 
  20, 2001 1:31 PM To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) Subject:    [newbie] Testing for bad RAM 
  I am suspicious that my RAM is bad.  Is there 
  anyway in linux that I can confirm this? 
  

[newbie] X Windows Crash!

[Dave Esquer]

I have installed Mandrake7.2  on my machine. The install was great, and the 
overall feel much better than RedHat7, my compliments! All of the 
applications and KDE2.0 and Gnome 1.2 are a real plus to a newbie like me!

My machine lost power in a snowstorm. It rebooted and now I am unable to 
restart KDE or any other X interface. I can log in via the terminal 
(console) without problem but the command startx doesn't start X. It gives 
me error messages. I tried Xconfigurator again as root but it too gave me 
errors with my card and monitor setup screen showing "unknown". Even with 
Xconfgurator fixed again to the proper monitor and graphics card, startx 
still doesn't any X windowing system. I get errors about "fixed fonts" not 
available (I think). The XFree versions on my system are 3.3.6 and 4.0.1.

When shutting down after this crash, the Mandrake Aurora graphical 
interface says unable to shutdown the "X Font Server", it had an "x"on 
it!  Reinstalling Linux fixes the problem but when I install Netscape 6, 
the same thing happened. I now have Netscape 6.0.1 but have not installed 
it yet.

The command
  /usr/sbin/chksession -l
gives me KDE, Gnome, IceWM, Sawfish, default and failsafe as options. I 
know that issuing the command startx xxx (where xxx is one of those windows 
managers) should start one of these sessions, but it doesn't work after the 
crash.

My graphics card is an ATI Xpert98 (8 megs, Mach64 chipset), machine is a 
K6-400 with 128 megs, plenty of disk space (30gb).

Is X-windows so delicate (I don't think so), or is my video card the 
problem or ? Can I save some configuration files somewhere to overwrite 
corrupt ones when this happens again? I hate to keep reintalling linux - I 
know that this is an overkill approach!

This (Windoz refugee) newbie says TIA,
Dave
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-- RST Engineering

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Re: [newbie] Bad Scare! Hard drive jumped from case into trash bin.

[Tim Holmes]

Just as a side note, and you may have thought of this already, so if you
have just tell me to shut up! lol

But I know that Western Digital has a really good warranty plan.  If the
drive is still with in warranty, send that sucker back!  RMA the drive,
get another one!  I know for something like that, if it happens twice to
a Western Digital, they're take it back.  Send another one and it's
"FREE."  (They actually make you buy the drive, and once they get the
old drive, they refund you 100% of the drive they replaced it with.)
I've done that many times, one reason why I only go with Western Digital
drives.
tdh
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Unixtechs.org
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"Real Men use Vi."

* goldenpi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010218 08:39]:
> Sounds like its going. You can keep it, but backup frequently.
> 
> oh, run fsck on all partitions. Run scandisk through on all fat partitions.
> Scan it well.
> 
> Quantum fireball. I got one of those :(
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: David Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:13 PM
> Subject: [newbie] Bad Scare! Hard drive jumped from case into trash bin.
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Well not quite, but is sure sounded like it was trying to escape!
> >
> > I was running netscape with several windows open (probably not hitting
> swap)
> > and suddenly the normal brrrp brrrp type sounds that comes from my
> hard
> > drive chaged to a loud and alarming RRRIP WHAK IP WHAK this
> cycle
> > repeated from about 25 seconds. The system was pretty well locked up at
> this
> > point, I could move the mouse but KDE was locked tight. I hit the reset
> > switch and then after the bios screen I got a message that the HD was not
> > ready and that I should insert a floppy if I wanted to boot. :-( Didn't
> want
> > to do that so I hit the power switch and let the thing sit for a minute
> then
> > tried it again. This time the system came up normally, fsck made some
> > repairs, but it didn't seem like it did anything more than it has on a
> couple
> > of other occassions after the power has gone out unexpectedly. Anyhow, I
> am
> > using the system now and it seems fine.
> >
> > Any ideas what could have caused this? Is my new hard drive on the fast
> track
> > to the trash heap? Or could I have simply hit a nasty bug is some bit of
> > software and it through my drive into convulsions?
> >
> > BTW I did backup my data and some config files.
> >
> > The drive: 30GB  EIDE ULTRA-ATA 66 3.5LP QUANTUM FIREBALL Plus LM
> >
> > [root@crank david]# hdparm /dev/hda
> >  /dev/hda:
> >  multcount= 16 (on)
> >  I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
> >  unmaskirq=  0 (off)
> >  using_dma=  1 (on)
> >  keepsettings =  0 (off)
> >  nowerr   =  0 (off)
> >  readonly =  0 (off)
> >  readahead=  8 (on)
> >  geometry = 3649/255/63, sectors = 58633344, start = 0
> >
> > Thanks Much
> > David Nelson

Re: [newbie] boot.ini

[Dale Kosan]

Well, not as easy as one would think. I have NT and Linux at work on same the 
machine, along with 98 and 2000.Maybe someone else knows away.I could post 
the procedure givin to me if you like. The one thing is you should be running 
lilo.Let me know if you would like the info and I will post from work today...

[newbie] Floppy and Cdrom problems

[Jake Hanz]

Does anybody klnow why when I installed Mandrake 7.2 my floppy and cdrom are 
locked, even to root! Mandrake 7.1 works fine, but 7.2 has got some issues 
with my drives. Help!

Linux Lunatic
a.k.a. Seth Hanzik
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Re: [newbie] corrupt RPM file ??

[Craig Rowan]

I had the same problem with some of the packages on 
my CD's, both my supplier and I came to the conclusion that, yes, the packages 
were corrupt.
 
I ended up getting some new CD's as it was hard to 
tell which packages were corrupt (I couldn't be bothered testing several 
thousand packages), downloading the packages should do the trick 
though.
 
Good luck,
Craig

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Robert 
  Fleming 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:00 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] corrupt RPM file 
  ??
  
  I am trying to install the glibc-devel rpm. 
  However when I try andinstall it the following 
  results:[root@localhost /root]# rpm 
  -i/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpmunpacking 
  of archive failed: cpio: Bad magic[root@localhost /root]#Also 
  inspection of the install.log file shows the above error messagepresent as 
  well.
  I have checked the RPM file inquestion, and here 
  are the results:
   
  [root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -i --test 
  glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -K 
  glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpmglibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 GPG 
  NOT OK[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm --checksig 
  glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpmglibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 GPG 
  NOT OK[root@localhost RPMS]# 
   
  Does this mean that the RPM is 
  corrupt?
  And I guess if that is the case I will need to 
  get the entire RPM again?
  Finally is it possible to acquire RPMs that have 
  been compressed? (ie 
tar.Z)wade

[newbie] Cforge license

[Cletus Lichte, Jr.]

When trying to run Cforge after installing, it bombs
with an error message that the license is expired.
What is the fix for this? Thanks.


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[newbie] (OT)Half-Life server question

[Kelly, Christopher]

This is off-topic...

Does anybody on this list run a Half-Life server? I was wondering, if I want
to setup a Linux Half-Life server, do I need to perform a server
installation of Mandrake? Or can I run it in the Normal installation?

Thanks,
Moose

[newbie] boot.ini

[Leland L Waters]

I have win2000Pro biggyback with win98se on the primary partition and 
Mandrake 7.2 on the extended partition.

What line do I add to boot.ini to boot linux from the windows bootloader.

Lee

[newbie] Xinetd

[Franki]

Hi all, 


does xinetd still work with hosts.allow and hosts.deny???

I use it to allow ipop3d for internal clients and deny for everyone else...

and yet it doesn't seem to be working.. 

if this is the case, I will be going back to inetd..


regards

Frank

[newbie] /mnt

[Leland L Waters]

I have an ide cdrom, a scsi cdrw, and an atapi zip that show mounted, but 
when I try to access them I get a not authorized error as user or root. In 
permissions read, write and exe are checked.

I am running an abit bp6 with a pair of celeron 366's @ 550 and 384m pc133 
ram. The SCSI controller is Tekram dual channel ultra 160 with Quantum 
10KII 18.2 gig.

I am able to navigate the hard drive in kde, but cannot access any other drive.

Lee

[newbie] corrupt RPM file ??

[Robert Fleming]

I am trying to install the glibc-devel rpm. 
However when I try andinstall it the following 
results:[root@localhost /root]# rpm 
-i/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpmunpacking of 
archive failed: cpio: Bad magic[root@localhost /root]#Also 
inspection of the install.log file shows the above error messagepresent as 
well.
I have checked the RPM file inquestion, and here 
are the results:
 
[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -i --test 
glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -K 
glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpmglibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 GPG 
NOT OK[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm --checksig 
glibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpmglibc-devel-2.1.3-16mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 GPG 
NOT OK[root@localhost RPMS]# 
 
Does this mean that the RPM is 
corrupt?
And I guess if that is the case I will need to get 
the entire RPM again?
Finally is it possible to acquire RPMs that have 
been compressed? (ie tar.Z)wade

RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[Mark Johnson]

Title: RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM



Naa, I 
can't believe this, I have a 256 stick that crashed three computers continuously 
and it counted up in the bios just fine in all three.  This 128 stick isn't 
quite so ruthless on me but linux apps keep crashing on me left and right and 
weird things like the logout won't work sometimes in X...

  -Original Message-From: Myers, Dennis R NWO 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February 
  20, 2001 2:20 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
  I've been told by local computer techs that if your 
  bios sees the ram at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on 
  the first screen that shows your primary  and secondary IDE devices 
  and  you can hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and 
  should be functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their 
  advice.
  -Original 
  Message- From:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent:   Tuesday, February 
  20, 2001 1:31 PM To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) Subject:    [newbie] Testing for bad RAM 
  I am suspicious that my RAM is bad.  Is there 
  anyway in linux that I can confirm this? 
  

[newbie] Dual boot: Mandrake and NT question??

[Michael]

I have a Dell Lattitude CPX Laptop running NT Workstation 4.0.  I want
to install Linux, and have defragged my drives and installed Partition
Magic 5.0 to re-partition the NTFS file system and have created my
rescue disks and the system backed up. 

Is there anything anything else I should be aware of, specific to NT,
before attempting the install?  I have already installed Mandrake on my
desktop which is also running Win95 and that went relatively smooth. 
Just checking;-)
-- 
Michael Lewis   
Registered Linux User #197864

RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM

[Franki]

Title: RE: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM



well 
that is sort true,, if you bios is set to fast boot, the chances are that it is 
not doing a full test of the ram,,,
 
You 
would be better of booting from a floppy with something like microscope or 
PCcheckit... and do a full test with that.
 
regards
 
Frank

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Myers, Dennis R NWOSent: Wednesday, 21 February 2001 
  4:20 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
  I've been told by local computer techs that if your 
  bios sees the ram at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on 
  the first screen that shows your primary  and secondary IDE devices 
  and  you can hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and 
  should be functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their 
  advice.
  -Original 
  Message- From:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent:   Tuesday, February 
  20, 2001 1:31 PM To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) Subject:    [newbie] Testing for bad RAM 
  I am suspicious that my RAM is bad.  Is there 
  anyway in linux that I can confirm this?