Re: [newbie] Installing wine under linux and ADSL-connecting

2001-06-24 Thread OOzy Pal

Hello 

check out this. Some version works and some don't

http://appdb.codeweavers.com/appview.php?appId=17

OOzy

On Monday 25 June 2001 01:14 am, Paul wrote:
> > things). i'm looking to try and run things like photoshop (still coming
> > to grips with
>
> the gimp, but i would like to use both) and dreamweaver (not sure if this
> can be done but i'm
> gonna try)..
>
>
> I think, for something complex like Photoshop, you can better resort to
> VMware than Wine. Wine is pretty good, but I have severe doubts that it
> will be able to run Photoshop for you.
> Paul




Re: [newbie] Installing wine under linux and ADSL-connecting

2001-06-24 Thread OOzy Pal

Hello 

I just installed CWs Wine. It worked fine and yes you need to instal itcl. As 
a matter if fact LM 8 poped asking me if I want to install itc. If you are 
running LM 8. Then just run the software manager and search for itcl. Then 
install it. I am  not sure if you can run photoshop and dreamweaver. Checkout 
this site for that application that works on Wine

http://appdb.codeweavers.com

OOzy
On Monday 25 June 2001 12:04 am, mike cola wrote:
> trying to install codeweavers wine and i get the error that the i need
> itcl, when i try to use gnorpm or itcl>=3, when i try to use the console.
> if i then try to use the console and the nodeps command i get the error
> that i am missing xmessage and i can install it from X11R6-contribs, or add
> a message to path that will make xmessage return 0.  do i need to install
> itcl and where can i find it or how do i modify the path file to make sure
> xmessage returns 0 (or is that pathway the wrong way to approach things).
> i'm looking to try and run things like photoshop (still coming t grips with
> the gimp, but i would like to use both) and dreamweaver (not sure if this
> can be done but i'm gonna try)..
>
> my other problem is how do i know what the problem is when i run adsl-setup
> i get all the info in but if i try to connect i timeout before anything
> happens. what logfile should i check for a greater explanation, and is
> there a graphical front end i can use to get a progress report kind of
> thing when i try to connect instead of connecting from a console?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> mike
>
>
>
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[newbie] Slow CD-Installation

2001-06-24 Thread Thomas_Pfisterer

Hello Newbie-List !

I tried to install Mandrake 7.2 on my AMD K6-2 400 with a Tyan Trinity
Board and 196 MB RAM on the second HDD from my Mitsumi 24Speed CD-Rom
(autoboot).
Everything is going fine and fast until i choose the packages. When it
wants to install the packages i selected (i tried different amounts) it has
a very slow access to my CD-ROM. An installation of Linux only (no other
packages) needs about two hours to be finished. It thinks about every file
to copy from CD-ROM a few seconds before it does copy it. The CDs are clean
and without any scratches.
Has anyone any idea why this happens?

I thought about installing Mandrake from my HD, but i am not sure what
directories i need. How do i have to do that ?

I am totally new to Linux so please be kind ;-)

Thanks for all help!

Best regards
Tom





Re: [newbie] Installing wine under linux and ADSL-connecting

2001-06-24 Thread Paul

> things). i'm looking to try and run things like photoshop (still coming to grips with
the gimp, but i would like to use both) and dreamweaver (not sure if this can be done 
but
i'm
gonna try).. 
>

I think, for something complex like Photoshop, you can better resort to VMware
than Wine. Wine is pretty good, but I have severe doubts that it will be able
to run Photoshop for you.
Paul





Re: [newbie] .xsession-errors grows up 300 Mb

2001-06-24 Thread Len Lawrence

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Juan Carlos wrote:

> In Linux Mandrake 8.0, ".xsession-errors" grows until complete fill of linux 
> partition. No free space left. I delete the file several times as root and as 
> user. But everty time I log in Xwindows it grows again. 300 Mb and no free 
> space left.
> 
Yes.  I had that a few months ago. Had a look at the processes using gtop 
after deleting the file and discovered a couple of netscape sub-processes
chewing away.  Netscape was not supposed to be running at that
point.  After these processes were killed the problem went away, and never
reappeared.  This was 7.2 - no need to reinstall.  So, have a look for
rogue processes if it does ever recur.

The origin of the errors was a mystery but I had the impression that the
messages were supposed to go to a terminal and the processes could not
find one (?).

> Finally I reinstall LM 8.0.
> 
> Has anybody have the same problem?
> 
>  
> __
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> 
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Re: [newbie] Modules- install

2001-06-24 Thread DStevenson

On Sunday 24 June 2001 18:21, Jeffrey M. Reed wrote:
> On Sunday 24 June 2001 13:00, DStevenson wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to install new modules. I have
> > downloaded the SG scsi modules and need to install them
> > on my machine to hopefully solve a scanner problem. I
> > have the files installed the drivers and include
> > directories in the src tree, but that is as far as I
> > know.
> >
> > Do I need to recompile the kernel? (No please)
> >
> >
> > Any help would be really appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks...Dave
>
> that's why they're called modules my friend. you suimplly
> need to load them at boot time. this can be done by adding
> a simple one-liner to your /etc/modules.conf script or, if
> you're already up and running, you can try loading it
> manually by logging in as root and typing 'lsmod' to see
> what modules are already loaded and then use 'insmod' to
> try your new module. it's not necessary to compile into
> your kernel. i know that can be a real pain in the butt.
>
> good luck and don't forget about www.linuxdoc.org for lots
> of linux help!!!
The only reason I ask is that having looked at the kernel config file, I 
noticed a lot of info about the ai? scsi driver for the adaptec cards. 
This made me think that the current scsi drivers are in the kernel, and if 
so, will my new sg ones conflict? 

Being new to linux, this sort of thing just make me even more confused.  If 
the current ones are installed as modules, do I have to unload them before 
loading the new ones...I would have though so...but I know nothing!!!


Cheers...Dave.




[newbie] problem with terminal settings in LM8

2001-06-24 Thread Chloe Lewis

a CR character is automatically printed at the end of shell script.
e.g.

$ echo "Hello, world."
Hello, world.
$ echo -r "Hello, world." # on LM 8.0
$ echo -r "Hello, world." # on LM 7.2 ( no problem! )
Hello, world.$

when i execute 'echo -r "Hello, world."' through slow connection, i can see
the string "Hello, wolrd." is printed exactly before the prompt of bash ($),
but the '$' erases it. in other words, 'echo -r -e "Hello, world.\r" on LM
7.2 will show the same result.
i have installed LM 8.0 with the free release from
, and the packages related to the problem are :

$ rpm -qa | grep ncurses
ncurses-5.1-8mdk
ncurses-devel-5.1-8mdk
ncurses-extraterms-5.1-8mdk

 is there anyone who can help me ? thanks in advance.

--
War doesnt determine whos right, just whos left.





[newbie] Internet access/insmod problems

2001-06-24 Thread Jason Guidry





Re: [newbie] Linux bashing again by Intel??

2001-06-24 Thread Jay DeKing

I have to agree with Sridhar on this.

I didn't choose Linux because I expected Plug'n'Play. If I wanted a Mac 
(ewww!) I would have bought a Mac. I expected a learning experience; that's 
what I like in my hobbies. Since installing my first Linux distro some 7 or 8 
months ago, I've acquired an entire shelf of books and several full distros - 
and a whole lotta' learning. To use a mixed metaphor, on the Linux highway, I 
have passed the driver's test but am not a master mechanic yet.

I belong to at least a dozen mailing lists on several different subjects, 
from Linux to genealogy to circuit board design (the hobby that actually pays 
the bills). Do I get answers to all of my questions? No. Are all of the 
answers I do get helpful? Not always, but they are certainly appreciated.

If I had judged my experience from "a few posts," or even a couple dozen 
posts, I would have soured on the whole mailing list concept long ago, but 
it's kind of like a shotgun effect: send enough shot at your target and 
something's going to hit it.

Don't get discouraged. Patience is a virtue.

On Sunday 24 June 2001 06:35 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> You seem to be EXPECTING people to answer your questions. This is an e-mail
> list in which users help users. Nobody HAS to answer anything. This isn't
> because we don't like you, it more likely is because nobody knows the
> answer, or you haven't explained it well enough. You should feel lucky that
> you have this kind of free community-based support -- you'll never have it
> in the M$ world. There, you'll have to pay through the nose for tech
> support. You can pay for tech support in GNU/Linux as well. This would be
> recommended if, say, you had a company relying on GNU/Linux.
>
> Also, as Civileme wrote, you should check ALL avenues of support. You
> cannot expect to find all the answers on the Linux-Mandrake Newbie List.
> You should be also looking at places like Linux.com, LinuxNewbie.org,
> MandrakeUser.org, and MandrakeExpert for help. Newsgroups and IRC can be
> gold mines for support. You can even pay LinuxCare or a distro provider for
> guaranteed support.
>
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 03:36, Loke Kit Kai wrote:
> > right... asking experienced people for help... it is this kind of mail
> > that push me off linux... I did gave linux a try, post a few mails on
> > this mailing list... how? got any help? NO!!!

-- 
"Support your local law enforcement agency - 
 this week commit the crime of your choice!"




Re: [newbie] Modules- install

2001-06-24 Thread Jeffrey M. Reed

On Sunday 24 June 2001 13:00, DStevenson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know how to install new modules. I have
> downloaded the SG scsi modules and need to install them
> on my machine to hopefully solve a scanner problem. I
> have the files installed the drivers and include
> directories in the src tree, but that is as far as I
> know.
>
> Do I need to recompile the kernel? (No please)
>
>
> Any help would be really appreciated.
>
> Thanks...Dave

that's why they're called modules my friend. you suimplly 
need to load them at boot time. this can be done by adding 
a simple one-liner to your /etc/modules.conf script or, if 
you're already up and running, you can try loading it 
manually by logging in as root and typing 'lsmod' to see 
what modules are already loaded and then use 'insmod' to 
try your new module. it's not necessary to compile into 
your kernel. i know that can be a real pain in the butt.

good luck and don't forget about www.linuxdoc.org for lots 
of linux help!!!

-- 

+-
+  Jeffrey M. Reed
+  Linux System Administrator
+  Metro West Boston Linux User Group
+  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+  (508)792-6070
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RE: [newbie] java not working in Staroffice 5.2

2001-06-24 Thread Charles A Edwards

You can also use 1.2.2, either Sun, Blackdown, or IBM if you edit the javarc
file found in office52/user//config.

In the Exclude line remove the listing for 1.2.2.

Rerun java set-up and the 1.2.2 pkg will be seen and can be used.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Ruskin
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 12:16 PM
> To: tazmun; Newbie
> Subject: Re: [newbie] java not working in Staroffice 5.2
> 
> 
> On Sunday 24 June 2001 17:04, tazmun wrote:
> > Ok I'm looking for that version but perhaps I'm blind.  
> Could please you
> > provide me with a link to that software please?  I had also 
> tried just the
> > jre previouslybut it was the new 1.3.1 version.the 
> only other one I
> > see is the 1.3.0 version offered at this time.
> >
> Try Google with "Blackdown 1.1.8".  That's how I found it.
> -- 
>  Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
> Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see 
> http://counter.li.org/ )
> Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
>  Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
> Uptime 1 day 15 hours 41 minutes
> 
> 





Re: [newbie] gnome chess starting on login

2001-06-24 Thread Dan Gordon

No i tryed playing the game one night did not like it and closed it as 
normal, when i logged off i did not click restore session but the darn thing 
now starts each time i login... strange but true ?  When i do top or gps i 
can still see it running, if i kill the prossess it still starts next time i 
login.

On June 24, 2001 06:34 pm, you wrote:
> Just a thought, when logging of, do you restore the session? If you do, the
> system will restart processes which could just drag your system down in the
> long term.
>
> It might be way off, but it's just a thought.
>
> Dave

-- 
Regards,
Dan Gordon
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Registerd Linux user #217868




[newbie] RE: [expert] Use Java in Konqueror problem

2001-06-24 Thread Charles A Edwards



To change the default handler for html/urls you can do the following.

If you are using kde open Kde Control Center and nav to the listing
File Browsing/File Assoc/Text heading/html.
Using the Add option add opera (be sure to use lowercase o) and then move it
to the top of the list.

If you are using Gnome open the Gnome Control Center
Document Handlers/Url handler.
In the listing for default handler remove Moz and enter opera (lowercase 0).

All shortcuts and links will now be opened by Opera.


As far as Java working in konqueror as long as you have a Java pkg
installed, JRE or
JDK, and you have enabled java in Preferences there should not be a problem
unless
the site does not use the standard format.


   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Francisco Alcaraz
> Ariza
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Use Java in Konqueror problem
>
>
> I have this problem also, so I am testing opera 5.0, that now
> has finally
> released the stable package. But when I am looking e-mails
> with kmail, if
> there are in a message a url, automatically it is open with
> konqueror and,
> you know, if there are some about java the dissater! appears.
>
> I friend of mine said that the only problem for him to
> migrate from windows
> 2000 to linux was java support in any navigator, because hi
> works frequently
> with pages that use java!
>
> Anyone in this list know clues to install and activate java
> for konqueror.
>
>
> Francisco Alcaraz
> Murcia (Spain)
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I can not make java work in konqueror, when I load an
> > applet it seems that it displayed outside the
> > konqueror window and dissappeared quickly. The applet
> > area in konqueror window remains blank. If enable java
> > console, no error message given. I install JDK 1.3.0
> > from Blackdown Java and use the real path
> > /usr/local/j2sdk1.3.0/jre/bin/java in konqueror
> > configuration and install jsse to
> > /usr/local/j2sdk1.3.0/jre/lib/ext
> >
> > What should I do? Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> > =
> > S.KIEU
> >
> >
> __
> _
> >_ _
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger
> > - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news
> and lots more!
>
>






[newbie] Motherboard monitoring...

2001-06-24 Thread Franki

Hi all,


I just got the abit kt7a mb with the via chipset and a Duron 900, and I was
wondering if there is a linux app for the hardware monitor,,, ie I want to
have the cpu and system temp monitored and if it goes over a predefined
amount, the system shutsdown?  I know that the windows version of the
software it will give alerts about cpu fans speeds, and temps,,

and I know that the bios has some control over things, but I would much
prefer a soft shutdown rather then the machine just cutting its own power
off...


Has anyone done this??


rgds

Frank





Re: [newbie] cable modem, router problem

2001-06-24 Thread Tim Holmes

So you can't ping the router itself either?  That I didn't pick up.

Have you given the router itself a secondary IP address?  Like 198.162.0.1?  And then
giving the other machines other IP addresses on that range.  If you make sure that the
machine knows it's gateway is 198.162.0.1, and their subnet mask is 255.255.255.255,
you should be able to ping that router.

What'd I'd suggest for trouble shooting this is to get rid of every "extra" issue.  So
don't plug the router into the cable modem, and only work with one machine plugged into
the router.

Or course make sure you're plugging your ethernet into the correct port, and make sure
the router boots.  I don't know what it does in the way of software, but make sure it's
loaded correctly.  Maybe there are lights that indicate that.

>From there bring up the machine.  After it's completely loaded, then try pinging the
address 198.162.0.1.  IF that doesn't work move where the cables are, or try another
cable.  I'm assuming it would be using a straight through CAT 5 for this and not a
cross over cable, but I'm sure the documentation should say that.

There was recently something on TechTV's The ScreenSavers about this.  The one they
used was a LinkSys router that was also a 4 or 5 port hub.  That one had a web page you
could point to the router to configure it.  From what I saw on the show it was pretty
smooth going.  Not sure if yours has something like that.  

So first make sure you can establish that connection.  Make sure your cables are good,
make sure they're plugged into the correct ports.  Make sure the NIC is completely
configured.  But if you can plug the machine right into your cable modem and connect
you should be good on the NIC config.

Does the router have some sort of "firewall" that doesn't allow return ping packets?

Again I don't have any experience with this problem, I'm just giving out suggestions of
what I'd do in this case.  Maybe something will be of help.

tdh

 +-
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  (0Y0)  |   "Real men us Vi!"
 -ooO--(_)--Ooo--+-
Uptime:
  
 1:47PM  up 2 days, 21:48, 3 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00
  


 
| Thanks for the heads up on the MAC address but my router is able to spoof
| this. But I'll give them a call and see what can happen.
| 
| And I am clueless why I'm unable to ping my router. I have tried setting
| everything to manual on my box and keepimng the dhcp settings on the router,
| still can't see the router and of course connecting to my isp. Would this
| also be from the MAC address issue?
| 
| Thanks again for your help!
| 
| Jim
   




RE: [newbie] Telnet command gone?

2001-06-24 Thread jdowns

Philip,

As with Dave I'm unsure if you mean that you are unable to use telnet on
your PC (command missing) or you are trying to remote login to your
company's server and getting refused. Have you been able to remote login
before?

If you are unable to telnet in or into your company network it is most
likely that telnet has been disabled. Telnet is a pretty big security risk.
All your info is going back and forth unencrypted. I haven't used it in a
few years.

If the telnet command is missing from your machine then yes, install from
the rpm. But I would instead use ssh. Your mandrake distro should have in
one of the disks as an rpm or I'm sure that it's available from their ftp
site (or mirrors). If that fails go to www.openssh.com.

Good luck and hope this helps.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of DStevenson
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Telnet command gone?


On Sunday 24 June 2001 12:02, Philip Loi wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> When I connected to my company network, it seems like
> the "telnet" command is missing? Can anyone tell me
> how to do rlogin to another server? Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Philip
>
> 
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
> or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie




If you are saying that your system does not have the telnet command, then it
may be that you have not installed it. If that is the case then open the
mandrake software manager and search for telnet and install the rpm.

If it is your company network that is not responding, then it may be that
the
telnet daemon on that newtwork is not installed/configured. The telnet rules
in the hosts files and or inetd.conf may not allow connections. It may be
that there is a firewall on the remote system which is dis-allowing telnet
sessions.

Dave.






Re: [newbie] gnome chess starting on login

2001-06-24 Thread DStevenson

On Sunday 24 June 2001 10:01, Dan Gordon wrote:
> I tryed the game gnome chess and now every time i login the game
> automatically starts up, how can i stop this ?

Just a thought, when logging of, do you restore the session? If you do, the 
system will restart processes which could just drag your system down in the 
long term. 

It might be way off, but it's just a thought.

Dave




Re: [newbie] Telnet command gone?

2001-06-24 Thread DStevenson

On Sunday 24 June 2001 12:02, Philip Loi wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> When I connected to my company network, it seems like
> the "telnet" command is missing? Can anyone tell me
> how to do rlogin to another server? Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Philip
>
> 
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
> or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie




If you are saying that your system does not have the telnet command, then it 
may be that you have not installed it. If that is the case then open the 
mandrake software manager and search for telnet and install the rpm.

If it is your company network that is not responding, then it may be that the 
telnet daemon on that newtwork is not installed/configured. The telnet rules 
in the hosts files and or inetd.conf may not allow connections. It may be 
that there is a firewall on the remote system which is dis-allowing telnet 
sessions.

Dave.




Re: [newbie] java not working in Staroffice 5.2

2001-06-24 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Sunday 24 June 2001 17:04, tazmun wrote:
> Ok I'm looking for that version but perhaps I'm blind.  Could please you
> provide me with a link to that software please?  I had also tried just the
> jre previouslybut it was the new 1.3.1 version.the only other one I
> see is the 1.3.0 version offered at this time.
>
Try Google with "Blackdown 1.1.8".  That's how I found it.
-- 
 Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
Uptime 1 day 15 hours 41 minutes




Re: [newbie] java not working in Staroffice 5.2

2001-06-24 Thread tazmun

Ok I'm looking for that version but perhaps I'm blind.  Could please you
provide me with a link to that software please?  I had also tried just the
jre previouslybut it was the new 1.3.1 version.the only other one I
see is the 1.3.0 version offered at this time.

tazmun

- Original Message -
From: "Barry Premeaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dave Miers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Mandrake newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] java not working in Staroffice 5.2


> Dave Miers wrote:
> >
> > I have MD 8.0 installed and   also 5.2 staroffice.  Everything seems to
be
> > working except for the java in Staroffice.  It works fine in Netscape
and
> > Konqueror The program did find a runtime environment for jdk 1.3.1 by
sun
> > which I installed ahead of time.  Well at least I ran the RPM for the
JDK
> > fileit was unclear if there were any other steps I needed to take to
get
> > the virtual machine working.  I fought and fought to get this far and
then
> > the silly thing won't work in java based sites..lol.  Your help is
greatly
> > appreciated!
> >
> > frustrated tazmun
>
> Sun's site says that it will only recognize
> the Blackdown 1.1.8 version.  You can get by
> with just the jre rather than pull down the
> full jdk edition.  I extracted the *.tar.gz
> in my /usr and the next time I opened so5.2,
> it automatically detected it. No further
> configuration was necessary.
>
> Barry
>





[newbie] Telnet command gone?

2001-06-24 Thread Philip Loi

Dear all,

When I connected to my company network, it seems like
the "telnet" command is missing? Can anyone tell me
how to do rlogin to another server? Thanks.

Regards,
Philip


Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie




[newbie] StarOffice freezes in 8.0

2001-06-24 Thread Jay DeKing

I finally received my 8.0 Power Pack, and everything looks great, but Star 
Office won't run. 

When I click on the Star Office icon, it runs setup, but as soon as I hit 
"next" it locks up tight with the hard drive access light on. I've left it 
alone for as long as an hour just in case it was actually doing something, 
with no luck. If I'm not quick on the draw and don't hit "next" right away, 
it will lock up anyway, but without the disk access light. The only way to 
break out of this is with the power button; Ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, 
neither do ctrl-alt-F1 or ctrl-alt-del (which I have enabled). I also tried 
alt-SysRq-S + alt-SysRq-U + al-SysRq-B. It always comes back to the power 
button. As you notice I have learned a good assortment of keystrokes to try 
in order to avoid that heinous button, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

I've done some research into this on the StarOffice support forum, and there 
I found the suggestion to set the environment variable 
"SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true", which I have done, rebooted, and verified 
that it has been set; no change.

Since this feels like a video setup problem, I checked all of the video 
parameters and they all correspond correctly to my hardware.

StarOffice worked like a charm in 7.2, and I have a lot of very important 
data locked up in those spreadsheets. Any help that can be provided would be 
appreciated.

Thanks,
Jay DeKing




[newbie] lnx4win help needed

2001-06-24 Thread kenneth m cubilo

to make a long story short i have two gateway desktops one a 700mhz and
the other a 550mhz pentium 3 systems, when attempting to run lnx4win on
the 700mhz system the install hangs just past the point of the ide 1 and
ide 2 detection lines dont know if i will ever get this one worked out
but my question is on the 550 machine the install goes great but i get
the window that asks what i want to do with my drive either to
completely erase the contents or to make a partion for linux. i was
under the impression that disk partioning was not necessary in the linux
for windows software and that it created two files in the windows os to
run linux under. i think the 7.2 version is what is packaged on the cd
rom anyone out there installed linux for windows  any help greatly
appreciated thanks
ken cubilo




Re: [newbie] Printing the root folder including thecorrespondingfolders

2001-06-24 Thread Romanator

Michel Clasquin wrote:
> 
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 17:36, Romanator wrote:
> > How about the sub folders only?
> 
> tree -d
> 
> in fact, try "man tree" and you'll find a lot of options ...
> --
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za   http://www.geocities.com/clasqm
> This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
> 
> "Hi, is that the U S Patent Office? I'd like to patent the FOR-NEXT loop,
> please ..."

Hi Michel,

I'll let you know how things turn out. 

Thanks for responding.
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Re: [newbie] HSP MICROMODEM

2001-06-24 Thread etharp

just my personal feelings but I believe that modem will fit just perfect in 
the kitchen garbage can. regardless of the operateing system, this modem 
sucks. it caused random crashes and problems even when not in use, in windows 
systems. you might not ever know why it crashed, but if you did you might be 
suprised how many crashes are caused by the resource drain this chip has. May 
I recomend a real (read "external serial connection") modem.


On Sunday 24 June 2001 10:02, fausto wrote:
> how to install this modem on the mandrake system




Re: [newbie] my sound stops suddenly working...

2001-06-24 Thread Romanator

jan wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, 23. June 2001 12:41, you wrote:
> > On Saturday 23 June 2001 19:17, you wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > short after booting, everything works completely fine with my soundcard.
> > > Then, if xmms has played for about 10 minutes it stops, and xmms freezes
> > > my xserver. after killing xmms it is impossible to get the sound working
> > > again until the next reboot. I can restart xmms as often as I want, it
> > > doesnt help.
> > >
> > > what might that be? I looking forward to every idea about a solution,
> > > because I  listen a lot to musik.
> > >
> > > TIA Jan
> >
> > Sounds like a possible IRQ conflict, Have you checked to make sure no other
> > device is using the same IRQ?
> 
> Thx for your help!
> Well, at the moment it seems to work,
> because I told mandrake not to start alsa during the boot time.
> That helped, dont ask me why?
> 
> with best regards
> jan

Jan,

Can you try turning off kudzu during boot time?

Roman
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Re: [newbie] Kmail goes but in tray is empty

2001-06-24 Thread Romanator

Dan Gordon wrote:
> 
> Im not sure just what you mean Roman? I am on athome my local mail domain is
> mail.kico1.on.home.com and ive had no problems at all with the mail servers.
> I set my servers as such mail.kico1.on.home.com news.kico1.on.home.com
> everything else works right from default. Try calling your local support
> people and ask them for your local server names, ive found this makes a
> diference.
> 
> On June 23, 2001 08:00 pm, you wrote:
> > This could be directed to any one that is connected to cable through the
> > @Home service.
> >
> > I can email to myself via roman@cr820141-a to the server(my computer
> > Hostname) to my local @Home domain and back through Netscape 4.77 and
> > back. Seems Look'N'Feel->Personalization-Email and Kmail are all tied
> > in. Any cable users or at @Home people experiencing this?
> > I have a static IP and I know the DNS server addresses.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Roman
> > Registered Linux User #179293
> > Powered By Loop de Loop Tux Email Myself Utility
> > \
> 
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Hi Dan,

Although I have all of the numbers, I guess I will have to. 

Roman
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Re: [newbie] samba started but status says it is stopped

2001-06-24 Thread h3rb

Look in your /var/log/samba log and see why it's not starting.  When it says 
it's not running.  Is this from SWAT?  Or from the command line.  SWAT Always 
tells me that my smb server is not running, even though it is.

h3rb

On Sunday 24 June 2001 04:26, ETSoft wrote:
> Hello
>
> although i give the command 'samba start', samba status says it is
> stopped and i do not see the computer on the net.
>
> Here is my smb.conf ... :
>
> [global]
> printing = bsd
> printcap name = /etc/printcap
> load printers = yes
> guest account = Etsoft
> null passwords = yes
> log file = /usr/local/samba/log.%m
> comment = Samba server
> workgroup = ETSOFT
> encrypt passwords = no
> password level = 0
> preferred master = no
> os level = 0
> allow hosts = 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.1
> dead time = 0
> debug level = 0
> domain master = no
>
> [homes]
> comment = Home Directories
> browseable = yes
> read only = no
> create mode = 0750
> available = yes
> public = yes
> writable = yes
> only user = no
>
>
> [printers]
> comment = All Printers
> securety = server
> browseable = no
> printable = yes
> public = yes
> writable = no
> create mode = 0700
> path = /var/spool/samba




Re: [newbie] Viral Software? sue microsoft for defamation.??

2001-06-24 Thread Romanator

Franki wrote:
> 
> Could linus sue MS for defamation?? it would serve them right if it happened
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Romanator
> Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2001 10:10 AM
> To: Carroll Grigsby
> Cc: Mandrake list
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Viral Software?
> 
> Completely unprofessional. Orwell was right. This is very sad.
> 
> Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> >
> > Here's one to tighten your shorts:
> > lwn.net/daily/#t48
> > After calling Linux "unAmerican" (that always plays well outside of the
> > USA), and "a cancer", Microsoft's latest deal is to refer to Linux as
> > "viral software", following Chairman Bill's interview earlier in the
> > week. Orwell was right, he just had the timetable wrong...
> > Carroll

FOr curiosity's sake, I would like to see if this is really true. I'd
hate to comment on something that could have been taken out of context.
Professionaly, I would ignore comments and carry on with marketing and
developing a better OS - Linux Mandrake.

Roman
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RE: [newbie] HSP MICROMODEM

2001-06-24 Thread Mark Annandale

Hi there

Check out www.linmodems.org you will find plenty info on all types of
'winmodems'.

Regards

mark Annandale



how to install this modem on the mandrake system







[newbie] gnome chess starting on login

2001-06-24 Thread Dan Gordon

I tryed the game gnome chess and now every time i login the game 
automatically starts up, how can i stop this ?
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[newbie] HSP MICROMODEM

2001-06-24 Thread fausto

how to install this modem on the mandrake system
 




Re: [newbie] .xsession-errors grows up 300 Mb

2001-06-24 Thread Dan Gordon

What do the errors say?


On June 23, 2001 08:53 pm, you wrote:
> In Linux Mandrake 8.0, ".xsession-errors" grows until complete fill of
> linux partition. No free space left. I delete the file several times as
> root and as user. But everty time I log in Xwindows it grows again. 300 Mb
> and no free space left.
>
> Finally I reinstall LM 8.0.
>
> Has anybody have the same problem?
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Kmail goes but in tray is empty

2001-06-24 Thread Dan Gordon

Im not sure just what you mean Roman? I am on athome my local mail domain is 
mail.kico1.on.home.com and ive had no problems at all with the mail servers. 
I set my servers as such mail.kico1.on.home.com news.kico1.on.home.com 
everything else works right from default. Try calling your local support 
people and ask them for your local server names, ive found this makes a 
diference.

On June 23, 2001 08:00 pm, you wrote:
> This could be directed to any one that is connected to cable through the
> @Home service.
>
> I can email to myself via roman@cr820141-a to the server(my computer
> Hostname) to my local @Home domain and back through Netscape 4.77 and
> back. Seems Look'N'Feel->Personalization-Email and Kmail are all tied
> in. Any cable users or at @Home people experiencing this?
> I have a static IP and I know the DNS server addresses.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Roman
> Registered Linux User #179293
> Powered By Loop de Loop Tux Email Myself Utility
> \

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Re: [newbie] Seek error om LM8.0 UDMA100

2001-06-24 Thread civileme

On Sunday 24 June 2001 08:21, Herbert wrote:
> Hello from Herbert,
> I have seek errors with my: WDC WD100EB-00BHF0 (Capacity: 9.32
> GB ) The mainbord is: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo IDE
> Kernel: 2.2.19-10mdk
> I think the problem is my mainbord support max UDMA33 and my
> HDD UDMA100 How to fix this problem??
>
> Herbert


Sorry, that is a hardware problem.  Call WD and exchange the 
disk.  Better yet, if you can afford it, buy a disk that has 
some quality to start with, like IBM.

And it is just fine that the mainboard supports only UDMA33.  
The WD disks do not do the 57 byte CRC required for higher 
speeds properly and should never be used above UDMA2 (33).

If the mainboard supported UDMA5 (100) and your disk was 33, you 
would do 33.  If the mainboard supports 33 and your disk is 133, 
you do 33.  This is not improper; it works that way, and it is 
designed to work that way.

The Seek errors are real and indicate a problem with your WD.  
If it follows the pattern I have noticed with WDs, in a few 
weeks, you will have a failure that requires a massive fsck to 
repair the filesystem, then a few days later the drive will 
physically break. and all data on it will be lost.  This seek 
error is usually a dangling head or bearing wear on the spindle.

You will find WDs warranty/returns department the most efficient 
and friendly on the planet.  That is scary to me, since I would 
rather see them spending their money on a better quality product 
than on fixing their customer's wounded temperaments when their 
product breaks.  But then they have the money and the company 
and I am just a peon, so I guess that says what my opinion is 
worth in this business world.

Civileme




Re: [newbie] need connection help(cont.)

2001-06-24 Thread civileme

On Saturday 23 June 2001 23:28, KompuKit wrote:
> oh yeah...I seem to be connecting ok...in windows...right now.]

And you can tell nothing from that connection since windows 
almost always misreports the speed as maximum.

There are two protocols in use  One goes to a codec at the 
phone co and through a local T1 with 23 other lines to run on 
two pairs of phone wire to the ISP and be demultiplexed to 24 
lines of signal.  This is DIGITAL and 56k capable (one way) but 
limited to 53k by the FCC and further taxed by a channel 
management load.

The other is an analog line directly connecting to your ISP 
through the phone exchange.  Much harder to maintain, because a 
bad line in the middle of a bank of modems or a bad modem for 
that matter blocks all those above it in the rotor or hunt...  
Unless some poor sap is being frustrated by being hooked to the 
bad one while you are dialing in and you can leapfrog past him 
to the next good one.  These are 33k capable, period.

Most digital modems plus the T-1s plus all ad up to a chunk of 
change for the ISP.  33k is less than half the price but higher 
maintenance.  

For most winmodems, you will find the ISP gimmicking his modems 
to drop the data rate to keep the poor things running.  The ones 
in Gateways two years ago were notorious ISP-bane.

Anyway, Kit, what you have is that the phone company codec is 
down or the connection switching to it is down, so the ISP has 
to use analog lines and cannot boost the data rate past v.34 
specs.

And all the connection help we can give you will do absolutely 
nothing at all until the hardware situation is fixed, or the 
switching software at the phone co is fixed or until you find a 
better service provision avenue.

Civileme

>
> For some reason...when I NOW connect to my ISP, using
> a external modem...I can't connect with no more then a
> 30-33k connection...and it keeps disconnecting every
> few minutes...and re-connecting...why is this?
> and HOW do I correct this?
>
> I have 8.0 running...
>
> all this started when ...last week, I couldn't connect
> to the ISP...with their local access numbers.
> (before, I used to always connect with 47-53k)
> I was on the phone all weekend...and then on monday,
> after again trying to straighten out, what was believed to be
> a ROUTING problem with the phone co., later that night
> I was able to again connect, but at much lower speeds...then
> I was before...I don't understand...anyone know how to fix
> this.




[newbie] CUPS problem

2001-06-24 Thread duncan

Hi Ken

I have just had this problem

lots about it on the search thru the mail list and what worked for me
was to reboot with the mandrake install disc select upgrade workstation
or whatever you used and then make sure you select add printer. i t will
probably need the 2nd disk i think.

It all worked fine after this.


Let us know how you get on

Regards Duncan




Re: [newbie] Reiser FS and swap partitions

2001-06-24 Thread civileme

On Saturday 23 June 2001 20:41, Kouros Owzar wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I decided to reinstall LM 8.0 using Reiser FS partitions. It
> is my understanding that this FS is more robust against
> accidental system shutdowns than standard ext2 Linux
> partitions. In addressing these questions, please keep in mind
> that I put higher value on stability than on speed and
> efficiency of the FS.
>
>
> I have a dual Xeon II system with 256MB RAM + 18.2 GB U2 SCSI
> drive. It currently has 4 NTFS + 1 FAT 32 partitions AND
> / /boot /root /home /usr /usr/local /tmp /var + 2 Linux
> swap partitions. The latter were all created using diskdrake.
>
> a. Are they Reiser FS modules in LM 8.0 experimental or are
>have they been thoroughly tested?

They are the most recent reiser versions and our tests say they 
work, sort-of.  Notail mounts can cause a kernel oops on 
shutdown.  Default mounts can freeze the system under stress.  
And the reiser patches seem to make nfs sensitive to heavy 
stress.

> b. Do Reiser FS partitions happily coexist with standard Linux
>swap partitions? What about their co-existence with NTFS
> partitions. I am asking this because, after I reinstalled LM
> 8.0 with Reiser partitions, I can no longer boot Windows 2000
> with LILO (It worked fine when I was running LM 8.0 using
> standard ext2 Linux partitions). I should point out that I
> rebuild the Reiser FS trees so that may have damaged the
> Windows partitions.

That is an interesting report.  If you have a step-by-step on 
what you did, I know a few kernel hackers who would love to read 
it.

> c. If I have 256MB of RAM should I have 4 x 128 swap
> partitions or 1 x 512 MB swap partition (I am under the
> assumption that one should have 256x2=512MB of total swap
> space)?

When you begin to have a lot of memory it is the time to start 
_thinking_ of needs for swap space.  For most purposes, swap 
space does not need to increase as memory will more frequenly 
handle the load.  Under certain circumstances (multiple servers 
with many incarnations, or a single user doing video editing on 
the fly) a 7G swap partition might not be big enough.

> d. How many partitions can I create using diskdrake? Diskdrake
> in LM 8.0 only allows the creation of 8 Reiser + 2 swap
> partitions in addition to my
>existing 4 NTFS and 1 FAT32 partition.

On how many drives?  

The device directory /dev has /dev/hda (whole device) plus 
/dev/hda1 through /dev/hda16.  It appears you used three 
primary, one to handle an extended partition, and 12 extension 
partitons, that's 16.

On the other hand, you can do more.. you need to add the nodes 
to the /dev directory by hand

mknod  -m 0744 /dev/hda17 b 03 17
mknod  -m 0744 /dev/hda18 b 03 18
.
mknod  -m 0744 /dev/hdb20 b 03 84
.
mknod  -m 0744 /dev/hdc33 b 16 33

The magic numbers at the end are major and minor numbers.  The 
major number like 3 and 16 are all listed in 
/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.4.3/devices.txt
The minor numbers are trickier  0 is the first device on an ide 
channel  (a, c, e...) and 0+1 through 0+63 are the possible 
partitions, while 64 is the second device (b, d, f, h, j, l, n, 
p) and 64+1 through 64+63 are the possible partitions.  The -m 
is a mode setting as in the chmod instruction which you can have 
detail on by man chmod in a terminal.

So if you are installing, leave a gaping hole on your disk 
totally unpartitioned and crowd some of your others together 
temporarily, then add the devices and run diskdrake from a 
console or from a terminal in graphic mode in a live system and 
make your additional partitions.  I recommend that if you want 
say, for example, /usr/local as a separated partition that you 
make /spusr/local as the mount point (spare /usr/local)

then

mount /spusr/local
cp -a /usr/local/* /spusr/local
umount /spusr/local

then use an editor to change the mount point in /etc/fstab to 
/usr/local and do this freaky move

cd /usr/local && rm -r * -f && cd ~
umount /usr/local && mount /usr/local

The first line clears the directory you were using for 
/usr/local and the second unmounts the one in /etc/mtab and 
mounts the one in /etc/fstab

Naturally, since you are asking such advanced questions, I can 
depend on you not to shriek, scream and wail if you do something 
suicidal like make a separate /etc or /bin or /sbin or /lib
partition, n'est-ce pas?

And will someone please post why making those separate should 
not be done?

Civileme




Re: [newbie] my sound stops suddenly working...

2001-06-24 Thread jan

On Saturday, 23. June 2001 12:41, you wrote:
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 19:17, you wrote:
> > Hi,
> > short after booting, everything works completely fine with my soundcard.
> > Then, if xmms has played for about 10 minutes it stops, and xmms freezes
> > my xserver. after killing xmms it is impossible to get the sound working
> > again until the next reboot. I can restart xmms as often as I want, it
> > doesnt help.
> >
> > what might that be? I looking forward to every idea about a solution,
> > because I  listen a lot to musik.
> >
> > TIA Jan
>
> Sounds like a possible IRQ conflict, Have you checked to make sure no other
> device is using the same IRQ?

Thx for your help!
Well, at the moment it seems to work,
because I told mandrake not to start alsa during the boot time.
That helped, dont ask me why?

with best regards
jan




Re: [newbie] Star office problem

2001-06-24 Thread John Rye

On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:24:37 +0300
ivan miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>   I have installed a power pack  version of LM8.Staroffice works
> fine,java okay,but the fonts...awafullhow can i correct
> this.Earlier,i have corrected the fonts problem in LM8 and the
> browsers,by removing the existing abisuite and installing a newer
> version.The second problem is that i have an HP5000 series laser
printer
> on the network.The staroffice printer menu does not include this how
can
> use this printer?The same printer was configured in cups is
working
> fine(samba printer).Thanks in advace for the help

Go to the options or printer prefs submenu and change the default
printer to point to xpp - that works for me

Cheers

John
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 Registered Linux User: 102826




Re: [newbie] True Type Fonts in StarOffice5.2?

2001-06-24 Thread John Rye

On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:12:47 -0500
Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a dual-boot LM 8.0/Win98 SE. Thanks to Mandrake, I've been
using True 
> Type fonts in Netscape and Mozilla since LM 7.1.
> 
> Question: Is there any way to use these True Type fonts in StarOffice
5.2? 
> StarOffice's print fonts are fine. They look very good indeed. But its
screen 
> fonts are atrocious. Can anything be done about this?

Ben

I was chasing this issue some time ago and found a font conversion ulity
which would convert from ttf to adobe type 1 fonts. 

I'm sorry I can't remember what the name was but I located it via a
Google search using "font convert' or similar as the search key.

Give it a try.

Cheers

John
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Re: [newbie] Problem with su

2001-06-24 Thread John Rye

On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 04:17:35 +0200
Amien Salie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I'm having a problem using the su command, this is the error i'm
getting:
> File size limit exceeded

This message is to do with user space quotas.

edit  /etc/security/limits.conf

there is a line near the end which defines maximum user space, either
comment it out or make the value very large

Cheers

John

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Re: [newbie] Printing the root folder including thecorrespondingfolders

2001-06-24 Thread Michel Clasquin

On Saturday 23 June 2001 17:36, Romanator wrote:
> How about the sub folders only?

tree -d

in fact, try "man tree" and you'll find a lot of options ...
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[newbie] samba started but status says it is stopped

2001-06-24 Thread ETSoft

Hello

although i give the command 'samba start', samba status says it is
stopped and i do not see the computer on the net.

Here is my smb.conf ... :

[global]
printing = bsd 
printcap name = /etc/printcap 
load printers = yes 
guest account = Etsoft
null passwords = yes 
log file = /usr/local/samba/log.%m 
comment = Samba server 
workgroup = ETSOFT
encrypt passwords = no 
password level = 0 
preferred master = no 
os level = 0 
allow hosts = 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.1
dead time = 0 
debug level = 0 
domain master = no 

[homes] 
comment = Home Directories 
browseable = yes 
read only = no 
create mode = 0750 
available = yes 
public = yes 
writable = yes 
only user = no 


[printers] 
comment = All Printers 
securety = server 
browseable = no 
printable = yes 
public = yes 
writable = no 
create mode = 0700 
path = /var/spool/samba 






[newbie] Seek error om LM8.0 UDMA100

2001-06-24 Thread Herbert

Hello from Herbert,
I have seek errors with my: WDC WD100EB-00BHF0 (Capacity: 9.32 GB )
The mainbord is: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo IDE
Kernel: 2.2.19-10mdk
I think the problem is my mainbord support max UDMA33 and my HDD UDMA100
How to fix this problem??

Herbert




[newbie] Star office problem

2001-06-24 Thread ivan miranda

Hi all,
I have installed a power pack  version of LM8.Staroffice works
fine,java okay,but the fonts...awafullhow can i correct
this.Earlier,i have corrected the fonts problem in LM8 and the
browsers,by removing the existing abisuite and installing a newer
version.The second problem is that i have an HP5000 series laser printer
on the network.The staroffice printer menu does not include this how can
use this printer?The same printer was configured in cups is working
fine(samba printer).Thanks in advace for the help

Ivan
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