Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
ryan_steffes wrote: > Which one do most of you prefer? Enlightenment is my window manager of choice, though I don't use it in conjunction with Gnome or KDE, other than very occasionally running GMC. E17 will take care of that, however. :) > For > starters, my X-Windows doesn't display menu's on a rightclick on the > desktop. Enlightenment has three different menus which appear when you click on the desktop with the three different mouse buttons. Right-clicking brings up the maintenance menu. If that's what you're used to, it is part of E, not Gnome. > Is that an option in Sawfish? Heck I can't even figure out how > to change my background. I'd like to RTFM but all I can find is help > for gnome, and I'm not sure which parts are gnome and which parts are > Sawfish. Have you checked the Sawfish web site? www.sawfish.org Have you tried running Sawfish without Gnome? Jesse -- !! Jesse C. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [___] `|' "I have the simplest tastes. I am always /|\ satisfied with the best." -- Oscar Wilde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Fostering the linux comunity spirit...... and a question about mandrake security level..and another one on Bind..
OK, so they just closed it up using ipchhains? if thats it, then I have no problems, I know my way around ipchains fules.. I thought the security script may have done other stuff to close ports and stuff. gonna have to learn iptables when 8.1 comes out though... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: Michael D. Viron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2001 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Fostering the linux comunity spirit.. and a question about mandrake security level..and another one on Bind.. >Is there anything available that explains how to open just what I need?? >(ie how to get port 25 open and listening for postfix... ditto with 80 and >httpd, ditto with bind on 53 (or the high ports) ssh,,, etc, etc, you get >the idea. well, this depends on whether you are using iptables or ipchains. If you are using ipchains, you can do something like: 'ipchains -A input -s 0/0 -d 0/0 80 -p tcp -y -j ACCEPT' which allows connections coming from and going anywhere on port 80. The 80 can very easily be changed to accomodate other ports you need to have open to anyone. If you have "trusted" hosts (ie, machines under your direct control), you can then also do something like: 'ipchains -A input -s 111.11.11.122 -d 0/0 -p all -j ACCEPT' which will allow any type of connection from that machine (either udp or tcp). with a destination of anywhere. >It seems more logical then starting at security level Medium and then >installing the secure kernel, pmfirewall, portsentry. and trying to harden >it as much as possible myself,,, if I could start hard and soften to my >needs, no doubt it would be more secure in the long run. (not that I >wouldn't do all of the above even if I could do it,, I just think the end >results would be more secure. > >also, if you run a newer bind, and it is using the higher ports, how can you >open the firewall to allow it if you don't know that ports its using??? I >have our bind tied to port 53, and it gets lots of attack attempts >(thousands) and I'd like to block 53 and open the higher ports... does >anyone know anything about this?? Well, the easiest way to block the port 53 attacks is to disallow all connections by default, and then only allow connections depending on need. For example, my ipchains file (in /etc/sysconfig) has: -A input -s 111.11.11.111 53 -d 0/0 -p udp -j ACCEPT which allows connections originating from my nameserver(s) and going anywhere. All other connection attempts on port 53 will be blocked (ip changed for security reasons). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems & Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File access- Me?,Machine?, Manual?
>What you said makes sense. Except for one item, >Root directory - key word is directory not root. >The one item is if I am SU, does this automatically open >the root file or the directory? >Assuming I have it set for all access. If you 'su' without the dash, you become the root user (ie, user 'root'--basically the account which has all privileges) but it does not change to root's home directory (/root). (as stated in the man page for su: "Change the effective user id and group id to that of USER.") for example: mviron@wsdo ~ $ pwd /home/members/mviron mviron@wsdo ~ $ su Password: [root@wsdo mviron]# pwd /home/members/mviron [root@wsdo mviron]# whoami root [root@wsdo mviron]# whereas with su - (or -l or --login) mviron@wsdo ~ $ pwd /home/members/mviron mviron@wsdo ~ $ su - Password: [root@wsdo /root]# pwd /root [root@wsdo /root]# If you use -, -l, or --login su acts as if you had just logged into the machine directly as . There are three different 'root's on a unix platform which mean 3 totally different things: 1. The root directory (/) under which all other directories connect. 2. The root user, also known as the "Super-User", which has permission to do whatever you want to do (including removing all files on the hard drive), and is typically used for system administration (adding users, editing configurations and so forth). 3. The home directory for the root user (/root/) under which root's shell initialization and configuration settings are stored. The question then becomes which root are you talking about? As far as I am aware, there is no root file (unless you are considering the /root/ directory as a file). HTH, Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems & Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a positive end to
damn...that's really nice. especially whereas i do live in the boston (worcester) area and i did notice that for real. people were driving...looking around at each other...a lot. a lot of eye contact and head nods. no mas road rage. very cool peoples. it was...almostweird. no, it was very weird...and very nice. thousands of dead americans is a sh*tty wake up call...but a wake up call nonetheless. it's odd...how American i felt yesterday morning. i felt some of the past shine through in our insane present...just a bunch of hard working blue bloods waging war against traffic so they can make some bucks and head home to be with the wife/kids/tv...typical american fluff. but...i like that. it's weird...i don't think we (here in MA) hate each other at all...we're just too busy trying to fill our lives and pocketswe act like madmen because we haven't stopped to think and really look at each other (sheesh...you bunch o' mugs :) ) in a long, long time. welp, it's a sad day...but at least we get to stop and THINK about stuff...most importantly, how lucky we are to be really FREE. blah blah blah... :) thanks jen... now, GET BACK TO HACKING! >:) On Friday 14 September 2001 21:32, jennifer wrote: > Someone from Boston sent these sentiments out that I > would like to share. I know that some don't want OT on > this list, but lets end our discussions as friends... > > > Subject: For the book... > > Yesterday's events have had a profound impact on > me...especially once I got home last night and had no > distraction to take my mind off of it. The 2 main > thoughts I've had I thought were worth sharing with "my > people". One is a somewhat frivolous metaphor, yet it's > accurate. The other...a more serious consideration. > > The metaphor is this. I was driving to work today and > thinking about how yesterday Governor Swift said it's > important to get back to "business as normal." As I > looked around at all the people heading into work, I > started thinking that we're like the Whos down in > Whoville. The terrorists are the grinch that tried to > steal Christmas yesterday, but today we're holding hands > and singing because we're not going to let them break our > spirit. > This led me to the second realization... > >Did any of you notice what I noticed this morning? No > road rage. None from within my car and none from without. > Today, for the first time in what seems like years, I > felt something for my fellow man that was actually > positive. I felt a connection as we all try to come to > terms with this...as we all are simultaneously > experiencing the exact same emotion. Suddenly, letting > someone in front of me felt better than speeding up to > spite them. Suddenly, the cars around me became more than > just faceless enemies. I began to actually look at the > faces attached to the souls within each vehicle and I > realized they are just like me. Just desperately trying > to make it through another day in an increasingly > frightening world that sometimes makes us feel more > vulnerable than we can deal with admitting. > > Perhaps if we as a society can hang on to this > feeling...perhaps if we can smile at just one stranger > today instead of glaring suspiciously at them. Perhaps if > we can let just one person out in traffic...or back off > the person in front of us by just 10 feet causing us to > reach our destination a mere nanosecond later...perhaps > then the tens of thousands of people who lost their lives > yesterday will not have died in vain. If we can pull just > one positive thing out of this staggering > nightmare...maybe God...who's up there crying his eyes > out right now...can smile again. > >Just a thought. > > --- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- //-- Jeff Reed //-- Co-founder / Odd (Job) Guy //-- Metro West Boston Linux User Group //-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD info question
Ok, in windows you just right click on a cd and you get the info such as : CD title, CD publisher and all that good stuff. How do I do this in linux? -- "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither safety nor liberty." -- Benjamin Franklin http://home.woh.rr.com/thecraig/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Libarary compatibility
I did a quick search for "libc" at rpmfind.net and I found a number of Mandrake and Mandrake Cooker packages. What is the problem? On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:17:21 -0400, "Charles A. Punch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:18:01 -0400, mcoady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>In my ongoing attempt to get Mandrake8 to accept an earlier version of WP8, I > >> > >tried to install the earlier library libc5 via rpm. > > > >>However I get the message: "file /etc/nsswitch.conf from install of > >> > >libc5-5.4.38-3 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.2.2-3.mdk > > > >>Does this not mean that the older library cannot coexist with a newer one? > >> > > > >Is the libc package a Mandrake 8.0 RPM? > > > I am having a similar problem. The only RPM I could find was a Caldera > one. This is the same one that I used before and it worked fine. WhenI > try to unpack it, I get an error message. I have since made many > changes to my system, so I am thinking that it may be another conflict > within my system and not a problem with the RPM itself. Just guessing. > > ShalomOut >Chal > Elder PCUSA > Registered Linux user #217118 > > > > >If so, try this: > > > >1. Make a backup of /etc/nsswitch.conf > >2. Install libc5 > >3. Restore the old /etc/nsswitch.conf, in place of the new one > >4. Install WP8. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
LURKER here, NOT a guru still trying to learn how to be a NEWBY. NOW for this prob, just corrected a prob I had with my system. My system was booting to LILO and I use the PowerQuest's BootMagic, I booted to LILO and then typed in windows, then went into the BootMagic Configuration and set thingys the way I wanted them and exited to DOS and ran 'fdisk /mbr' (with out the quotes). Returned to WinBlow$ and exited and did a reboot and WOW! it worked the way I wanted. What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. At 06:56 AM 9/14/01, you wrote: >Adam, not two weeks ago I did exactly the same thing, and it was a weekend >so I had no way of finding out how to fix it. you might want to wait for >someone to confirm this answer, but you use a Windoze Boot disk get into the >c drive ( dir c: and press enter) then fdisk /mbr this clears the Master >Boot Record.biut like I said, wait for confirmation from someone else > >-Original Message- >I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which >would load a text bootloader fine. > >However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the >lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. > >Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I >don't know how to get past it. > >Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the >machine boots straight into Windows? > >Thanks > >Adam TIA, 'd' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] a positive end to
Really nice sentiment. Enjoyed the read in prayerful hope that this dream can come true soon. Man's nature seems to need to experience pain before he can grow. Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jennifer Sent: 15 September 2001 02:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] a positive end to Someone from Boston sent these sentiments out that I would like to share. I know that some don't want OT on this list, but lets end our discussions as friends... Subject: For the book... Yesterday's events have had a profound impact on me...especially once I got home last night and had no distraction to take my mind off of it. The 2 main thoughts I've had I thought were worth sharing with "my people". One is a somewhat frivolous metaphor, yet it's accurate. The other...a more serious consideration. The metaphor is this. I was driving to work today and thinking about how yesterday Governor Swift said it's important to get back to "business as normal." As I looked around at all the people heading into work, I started thinking that we're like the Whos down in Whoville. The terrorists are the grinch that tried to steal Christmas yesterday, but today we're holding hands and singing because we're not going to let them break our spirit. > This led me to the second realization... Did any of you notice what I noticed this morning? No road rage. None from within my car and none from without. Today, for the first time in what seems like years, I felt something for my fellow man that was actually positive. I felt a connection as we all try to come to terms with this...as we all are simultaneously experiencing the exact same emotion. Suddenly, letting someone in front of me felt better than speeding up to spite them. Suddenly, the cars around me became more than just faceless enemies. I began to actually look at the faces attached to the souls within each vehicle and I realized they are just like me. Just desperately trying to make it through another day in an increasingly frightening world that sometimes makes us feel more vulnerable than we can deal with admitting. Perhaps if we as a society can hang on to this feeling...perhaps if we can smile at just one stranger today instead of glaring suspiciously at them. Perhaps if we can let just one person out in traffic...or back off the person in front of us by just 10 feet causing us to reach our destination a mere nanosecond later...perhaps then the tens of thousands of people who lost their lives yesterday will not have died in vain. If we can pull just one positive thing out of this staggering nightmare...maybe God...who's up there crying his eyes out right now...can smile again. Just a thought. --- -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] multiple copies of ML messages
LURKER here, I am using the Eudora Lite v5.1 within WinBlow$ and receive multiple copies of first sent messages prior to any responses. I find the "DEL" key works great in my system and just ignore that prob. To me that is very insignificant compared to the benefits I am receiving from this list. At 08:36 PM 9/13/01, you wrote: >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT), "Jesse C. Chang" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > civileme wrote: > > > > > All of us have to click the "reply all" button or else use something > like > > > KMail with filters to put this mail in a single folder and associate > that > > > folder with the list address in order to send to the newbie list without > > > typing in "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" This means that whoever has an >address > > > in the header gets the message. > > > > Okay, I'd swear I've gotten multiple copies of messages that were not > > replies to messages that had my email address in them too. > > > > Oh well. I still ssh to a remote Unix shell account to check my email > > with elm. For me, just hitting r)eply works, unless the author added a > > Reply-to: header (which is fairly common I suppose - I know I do). > > > > Hmm, maybe I should start being lazy too, and just hit G)roup reply > > instead of type a short alias for the list address. And I'll stop > > editing included-text too, since nobody else seems to care. :/ > > > > As for the "editing included-text" that is really up to the individual, but; to make a point without having to type in many words to bring the point back into your message, EDITING would be the LAZY man's way of doing it. I do NOT use the "Cc" just the "Reply" button so it goes to the [Newby] addy that sent the message to me. If someone posts without joining then they do NOT see the response, the expense to join is the best benefit we have for ALL of the assistance we receive from such KNOWLEDGEABLE people. > > > Jesse > >You're right. I've been getting multiple messages like this as well. I >find that >the list mailfunctions a bit every few months, and gets fixed within a few >days >of the problem occurring. Just wait a little and it should hopefully stop. > >-- >Sridhar Dhanapalan. > "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: > LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." > -- Jeremy S. Anderson MY $00.01.5 worth, thank you, TIA, 'd' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Think its time for farewell
Jennifer, my most sincere thanks to you for that solution as it worked. I seem to have missed implementing the last couple of steps, namely to check to turn on rule before clicking finish. In the meantime I have in excess of 100 messages in my inbox to move to approriate folder. Up till now I have been spending between 30 to 45 mins per day relocating them. I guess with your help I can afford the time to stick around. Again thanks Siavash Sefidvash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jennifer Sent: 15 September 2001 01:59 To: Siavash Sefidvash; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Think its time for farewell Siavash, I just did a quick run through on my windows box using the following instructions: they are a little crude, but they worked. Try running through again and see if you can't get it to work Tools Rules wizard New Move messages based on content with "newbie" in the subject or body Move it to the "newbie" folder (make sure you have a newbie folder) Choose next Make sure with specific words in the subject or body is checked. look at the lower pane and make sure the info is filled in Next Make sure the move it the the speciefied folder is filled out look at the lowe pane and make sure the info is filled in Next Add any exceptions to the rule. Next Name rule Check Turn on this rule box Finish Then click run now Make sure the check box next to the rule you want to run is checked on the next screen. Also check the "apply rules to" and "run in folder (inbox)" are correct. the rule should now run. -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] USA this and USA that,w here did the newbie list go?
I have an ISP I have to pay for. One of their major centers, which happens to be the one that affects me, is/was a quarter mile away from the world trade center. Now my connection sucks. I'm trying to dial up for the 50th time hoping I can go online and get my e-mail. *In a whiny cry-baby prickish voice that some people remember as some jerky from work they'd like to kick the crap out of* "Why don't they hurry up and toss those dead bodies away. They're on my cables for my ISP, waaah waaah. I had to delete 150+ e-mails because other people give a shit." *end prickish voice* My dad works on back up power systems. He couldn't call his client (Morgan Stanley Dean Witter) that Tuesday morning because he lost the number. Not a big deal, so he head off to the client's office. Half way there he hears that the building the client's office is in just got hit by an airliner and so did the building next to it. My dad was on the way to the World Trade Center. He was going there to relieve/assist two of his friends from his company. One of them hasn't been found. So the next time you go to school, or work if you're mature enough, take a look at a good friend and pretend he's dead and some asshole like you is whining about deleting mail while your friend's dead carcass hasn't even been found yet. Go cry to your mommy for having to delete e-mail and then yell at her for not teaching you how to grow up. There's nothing to laugh at about Karma . . . what goes around will eventually and definitely come around . . . Enjoy your day Hans N. PS - This e-mail wont be leaving my outbox until tomorrow, maybe deleting e-mail will make it go out sooner? Or was it crying about it that makes it go out faster? -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hylton Conacher Considering this is a Linux newbie list and I have managed to delete over 150 email regarding the US TERROR ATTACK can we please drop the subject on this list. some of us do have limited email space which we pay for! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Attention for everybody
I would think the city of God would be renowned for something more pure than capitalism, wealth, and the fact that if the city had public restrooms, they would be used as homes for those who live under boxes. Hans N. -Original Message- Behalf Of Mohammed Arafa another off-topic post ok can we debunk this? if a great city is burning ..doesnt that mean it already is a war? how else would an entire city burn? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
cheers tom, makes sense now :-) bascule On Saturday 15 September 2001 2:15 am, you wrote: > Bascule, 2.2.1 is ahead of, and is a "full 2.2". > The 'pre' suffix just means it's not quite 2.2.1 which is expected next > week. Call it beta if you want, but IMO, most all Linux software is > beta. Don't ya just love it that way ; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To subscribe?
On Friday 14 September 2001 21:04, you wrote: > Linux fellows, how could I subscribe to this list, please? > Thanks > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Go to www.mandrake.com and look on the left hand side for mailing lists. Scroll down the page and you will see the subscribe box, enter your email address. A few minutes later you will recieve a confirmation message by email, hit reply and you are on. Good luck Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] a positive end to
Someone from Boston sent these sentiments out that I would like to share. I know that some don't want OT on this list, but lets end our discussions as friends... Subject: For the book... Yesterday's events have had a profound impact on me...especially once I got home last night and had no distraction to take my mind off of it. The 2 main thoughts I've had I thought were worth sharing with "my people". One is a somewhat frivolous metaphor, yet it's accurate. The other...a more serious consideration. The metaphor is this. I was driving to work today and thinking about how yesterday Governor Swift said it's important to get back to "business as normal." As I looked around at all the people heading into work, I started thinking that we're like the Whos down in Whoville. The terrorists are the grinch that tried to steal Christmas yesterday, but today we're holding hands and singing because we're not going to let them break our spirit. > This led me to the second realization... Did any of you notice what I noticed this morning? No road rage. None from within my car and none from without. Today, for the first time in what seems like years, I felt something for my fellow man that was actually positive. I felt a connection as we all try to come to terms with this...as we all are simultaneously experiencing the exact same emotion. Suddenly, letting someone in front of me felt better than speeding up to spite them. Suddenly, the cars around me became more than just faceless enemies. I began to actually look at the faces attached to the souls within each vehicle and I realized they are just like me. Just desperately trying to make it through another day in an increasingly frightening world that sometimes makes us feel more vulnerable than we can deal with admitting. Perhaps if we as a society can hang on to this feeling...perhaps if we can smile at just one stranger today instead of glaring suspiciously at them. Perhaps if we can let just one person out in traffic...or back off the person in front of us by just 10 feet causing us to reach our destination a mere nanosecond later...perhaps then the tens of thousands of people who lost their lives yesterday will not have died in vain. If we can pull just one positive thing out of this staggering nightmare...maybe God...who's up there crying his eyes out right now...can smile again. Just a thought. --- -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] huge fonts!
Hi, I run mandrake 8. I changed X to the 4.x version using mandrakes setup program (can't rem the name, but, it let's you change the version running. So, I changed from 3.x to 4.x and now X has HUGE fonts. Everythings giant. What should I do?! Thanks for any help. Tom.
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
On Thursday 13 September 2001 06:30 pm, bascule escribió: > perhaps thats it, i am using kmail 1.3.1, actually the 'about kmail' > says kmail 1.3.1 (using kde2.2.1pre) but i don't understand since i > am running mandrake freq2 with cooker kde upgrades so i thought kde > would be full 2.2? > > bascule Hi-lite'g only what I want to respond to works here. Kmail 1.3.1 (Using KDE 2.2.1pre). Bascule, 2.2.1 is ahead of, and is a "full 2.2". The 'pre' suffix just means it's not quite 2.2.1 which is expected next week. Call it beta if you want, but IMO, most all Linux software is beta. Don't ya just love it that way ;> -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Admiral Yamamoto: "I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
On Friday 14 September 2001 07:10 pm, jennifer wrote: > > No, there is a radio box in the settings to default all your threads to > > collapsed and then you use the + or - in the subject list to expand them. > > -s > > No, there isn't one...it must be my version...bascule has reccomended (with > cuation) that I may have to upgrade KDE. So off to maual land I go to > figure out how to do that. See ya all in a few days with "i'm confused -How > to Upgrade KDE questions" > > Thanks for your help. hmmm, maybe it is a new thing. Sorry. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Think its time for farewell
Siavash, I just did a quick run through on my windows box using the following instructions: they are a little crude, but they worked. Try running through again and see if you can't get it to work Tools Rules wizard New Move messages based on content with "newbie" in the subject or body Move it to the "newbie" folder (make sure you have a newbie folder) Choose next Make sure with specific words in the subject or body is checked. look at the lower pane and make sure the info is filled in Next Make sure the move it the the speciefied folder is filled out look at the lowe pane and make sure the info is filled in Next Add any exceptions to the rule. Next Name rule Check Turn on this rule box Finish Then click run now Make sure the check box next to the rule you want to run is checked on the next screen. Also check the "apply rules to" and "run in folder (inbox)" are correct. the rule should now run. -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS PowerPoint reader for linux?
Star Office works great Not aware of anything else? Derek On Friday 14 September 2001 19:28, you wrote: > Anything availible in linux to read MS PowerPoint presentations? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake?
again and again I shall beg forgiveness for my self, this WAS NOT done by anyone but me and my ISP changing POPmail settings. (they changed, I did not) - Original Message - From: "jennifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "etharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake? > This was recieved by the list... > > I would like to extend the invitation to those would like to keep discussing > our grief with members on this list to create a mailing list for that > purpose. Email me and I will create a makeshift mailing list of those > interested. Especially if you were "accidently bumped" (whatta jerk) off list > by mr. havlik. > > This list *is* supposed to be unmoderated after all. > > On Friday 14 September 2001 15:05, etharp wrote: > > I have not received any mail from either the newbie list or the expert list > > since this morning, when I asked everyone to stay on the list to learn what > > we can. I hope we have not decided to take such measures at this time, when > > cool heads MUST prevail. > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Description: > > > -- > Jennifer > #221463 > Yahoo IM: jlynn2k > #include > void ignorance (it offers no value) > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake?
MY BAD!!! sorry to EVERYONE whip me and my ISP with a wet noodle. they screwed with my pop mail settings and I was not receiving any mail. all my fault (he said with his head bowed) - Original Message - From: "d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake? > LURKER here, if I may? I have conversed with Mr. Havlik before and he is > NOT the OGER you think of. He is just wanting to keep this "On Topic" for > what it is supposed to be used. I have been bumped for unknown reasons > about a year ago. That is NOT a big problem...just apologize and request > to be re-instated. I would rather see this keep to the topic at hand and > be productive than fall into a trench compairing other wars, conflicts, and > disagreements or name calling. This is Un-productive and not good for us > or the others that are involved. We are all on the same Space Ship, let us > work together and make it a better place for ALL. > > THE END! > > > TIA, > 'd' > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > San Antonio, Texas > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Think its time for farewell
Hello, I really hope you don't mind me asking a windoz question. You see, I have still not managed to install Mandrake. Until I do I would like to continue receiving mail from this list for future reference. However since the average daily mail from this list tends to range between 50 to 80. I simply do not have time sift through all. For this reason I would like to create a rule in Outlook to move specific mail by subject to designated folders in my inbox. I very thank you in advance for your co-operation. Here is the description of the problem. I have recently gone over the MS Technet pages Hi guys, been hoping some of you might be kind enough to help me filter the massive amount of mail I get from this listing using the Outlook Rules wizard. I guess assistance with MS is a repugnant idea to most. I have not managed to get help to install my Mandrake 8 either. I guess as a total newbie I need to seek support locally and come back as with more intermidiate skills. Farewell for now Siavash http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q196212 and applied rules as instructions but the rules do not seem to be working. I am trying to create rules to tell Outlook to put messages with specific words in content of message, body or subject field, to be moved in specially designated folders. I select TOOLS, RULES WIZARD, NEW, then I select "Move messages based on content", finally I insert the relevant content/words to base the relocation along with specifiying which folder to move it in. However I find each time I download mail they still pile up in Inbox rather than moving them to the specified folder locations. I even tried the "RUN NOW" button which displayed the copy dialog box, but I still find that messages do not move to specified folders on each download. Can you throw some light on this? Is this a ISP server configuration issue? I am using Windoz 2000 Professional with Outlook 2000 installed from Office 2000. Sincererly S.S. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video Cards, any good?
I'm about to buy a new video card, either a "3D Prophet 4500 PowerVR KyroII 64MB AGP", or a "VIVID! XS Kyro II 32MB AGP". Can anyone tell me what the compatability is like with these and Mandrake 8.0, or a place I can find out? Lovely Jubbly :o) "Hey Ho...lets go" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
hmm, good luck if you decide to upgrade, but on reflection even if there isn't an option in 'settings' for default thread behaviour, wasn't there always an option hanging off the toolbar item 'folder' ?, i remember the plus and minus boxes not working but i'm sure that did, for any one who knows a kmail developer, i would love to see a keyboard short cut to collapse/expand the current thread that i am reading, i can do this in netscape and i miss it, bascule On Saturday 15 September 2001 1:10 am, you wrote: > > No, there is a radio box in the settings to default all your threads to > > collapsed and then you use the + or - in the subject list to expand them. > > -s > > No, there isn't one...it must be my version...bascule has reccomended (with > cuation) that I may have to upgrade KDE. So off to maual land I go to > figure out how to do that. See ya all in a few days with "i'm confused -How > to Upgrade KDE questions" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS PowerPoint reader for linux?
star office presenter seems to do pretty well - Original Message - From: "Jon Doe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: [newbie] MS PowerPoint reader for linux? > Anything availible in linux to read MS PowerPoint presentations? > > > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little > temporary safety, deserve neither safety nor liberty." -- Benjamin Franklin > > http://home.woh.rr.com/thecraig/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
> > Your talking about ticking the little box with the plus or minus sign > > right? (i'm really not as stupid as my questions sound) It doesn't work > > for me. I am unsure whether kmail is corrupted or I have a different > > version. I am using KDE 2.1.2 and kmail 1.2. > > No, there is a radio box in the settings to default all your threads to > collapsed and then you use the + or - in the subject list to expand them. > -s No, there isn't one...it must be my version...bascule has reccomended (with cuation) that I may have to upgrade KDE. So off to maual land I go to figure out how to do that. See ya all in a few days with "i'm confused -How to Upgrade KDE questions" Thanks for your help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
On Friday 14 September 2001 06:37 pm, jennifer wrote: > > > yes, I know how to thread my messages, what i don't know how to do is > > > expand or collapse the threaded messages. For example, what i see is > > > > > > subject#1>sender>date > > > subject#1>sender>date > > > subject#1>sender>date > > > subject#1>sender>date > > > Subject#2--->sender--->date > > > Subject#2>sender>date > > > Subject#3--->sender--->date > > > > > > What I am trying to do is only see: > > > > > > subject#1->sender>date > > > subect#2>sender>date > > > subject#3->sender>date > > > > > > ...with the option of expanding and the subject group to view all > > > messages with a specific subject header. Sorry if I can't explain it > > > more clearly. > > > > Naw, it was me. My brained forked for a minute. > > > > However, the setting in the config was correct. Tick it to expand them > > or untick to close them. > > > > -s > > Your talking about ticking the little box with the plus or minus sign > right? (i'm really not as stupid as my questions sound) It doesn't work for > me. I am unsure whether kmail is corrupted or I have a different version. > I am using KDE 2.1.2 and kmail 1.2. > No, there is a radio box in the settings to default all your threads to collapsed and then you use the + or - in the subject list to expand them. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] StarOffice in KDE menu
While playing around w/ my menu... I found out that the StarOffice links are actually installed. It's just don't show up if "Madrake costumization" is enabled. Once I disabled it, I see the StarOffice links. and... sorrie... I lost the link for printing in staroffice. ^^;; can someone give it to me again? thanx. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
aha! i'm sure i remember that behaviour briefly some months back - the plus and minus boxes not working - shortly after i upgraded or reinstalled i forget which, i think upgradeing kdenetwork (or is it kdeutils that has kmail?) is necessary, this could mean the whole of kde which itself could mean upgradingthe whole distro, a word of caution, when i upgrade mandrake 8.0 orig to freq2 my menus were shagged, i think the later version used slightly different directory names for menu items, i backed up my home directory and then deleted the contents in the original, letting the upgrade create brand new menus etc. then i moved back all my custom desktp icons, config files for apps etc. no promises this would work for you of course :-) perhaps the best option is to wait for lm 8.1 final? bascule On Saturday 15 September 2001 12:37 am, you wrote: > Your talking about ticking the little box with the plus or minus sign > right? (i'm really not as stupid as my questions sound) It doesn't work for > me. I am unsure whether kmail is corrupted or I have a different version. > I am using KDE 2.1.2 and kmail 1.2. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
> > > > yes, I know how to thread my messages, what i don't know how to do is > > expand or collapse the threaded messages. For example, what i see is > > > > subject#1>sender>date > > subject#1>sender>date > > subject#1>sender>date > > subject#1>sender>date > > Subject#2--->sender--->date > > Subject#2>sender>date > > Subject#3--->sender--->date > > > > What I am trying to do is only see: > > > > subject#1->sender>date > > subect#2>sender>date > > subject#3->sender>date > > > > ...with the option of expanding and the subject group to view all > > messages with a specific subject header. Sorry if I can't explain it more > > clearly. > > Naw, it was me. My brained forked for a minute. > > However, the setting in the config was correct. Tick it to expand them or > untick to close them. > > -s Your talking about ticking the little box with the plus or minus sign right? (i'm really not as stupid as my questions sound) It doesn't work for me. I am unsure whether kmail is corrupted or I have a different version. I am using KDE 2.1.2 and kmail 1.2. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MS PowerPoint reader for linux?
Anything availible in linux to read MS PowerPoint presentations? -- "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither safety nor liberty." -- Benjamin Franklin http://home.woh.rr.com/thecraig/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
perhaps thats it, i am using kmail 1.3.1, actually the 'about kmail' says kmail 1.3.1 (using kde2.2.1pre) but i don't understand since i am running mandrake freq2 with cooker kde upgrades so i thought kde would be full 2.2? bascule On Saturday 15 September 2001 12:29 am, you wrote: > It didn't work for me...perhaps kmail is corrupted. Would you mind telling > me what version of KDE and kmail you are using? I am using the version > contained in the original build of mandrake 8...I haven't upgraded yet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StartX-problems
Sebastian wrote: > > > > > Your font server, xfs is not running. One reason for xfs not starting may be > > that you have deleted or moved the folders where all the fonts are stored. > > To verify that you still have fonts to load, open this file at the shell > > command prompt: > > > > vi /etc/X11/fs/config > > > > You ought to see some typing about halfway down that looks like this: > > > > catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled, > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk:unscaled, > > /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 > > > > ...Those are all the folders that contain fonts. If none or some of these > > folders are missing or empty you must re-install your fonts. > > > > If you have more questions you can reply straight to me. > > > > Richie > > > > I have proofed this. The file /etc/X11/fs/config exists and the paths which are > there exists too. Last time I have installed the system new but its take too long > and I must configure everithing again, from new. > Thank You for help. > > Seba Hi, IIRC another reason for xfs not starting up is an (almost) full partition it needs space on. Check with 'df'. -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
On Friday 14 September 2001 06:15 pm, jennifer wrote: > On Friday 14 September 2001 18:57, s wrote: > > On Friday 14 September 2001 05:40 pm, jennifer wrote: > > > I have been searching for a post regarding how to expand and collapse > > > the subject groups in kmail's threaded messages. I would rather have my > > > inbox set up so i would only see on message header for each thread > > > instead of all messages in every thread. Similiar to using the plus > > > and minus signs to the right of messages in Lookout?? Oh, I mean > > > Outlook. > > > > > > I am fairly certain this has been addresed before. I also read on > > > somewhere that there is a feature where you can highlight text in an > > > email and when you choose reply, you will reply only to the highlighted > > > text. Would anybody know how to implement this? > > > > There's a setting for it in the settings menu > configure kmail > > > appearance > > > > > Layout. There's also an option in Folder called "thread messages". > > > > Even windows people should know how to peruse a menu. geeezzz. > > > > Just joking, just joking... couldn't resist. :-) > > > > -s > > yes, I know how to thread my messages, what i don't know how to do is > expand or collapse the threaded messages. For example, what i see is > > subject#1>sender>date > subject#1>sender>date > subject#1>sender>date > subject#1>sender>date > Subject#2--->sender--->date > Subject#2>sender>date > Subject#3--->sender--->date > > What I am trying to do is only see: > > subject#1->sender>date > subect#2>sender>date > subject#3->sender>date > > ...with the option of expanding and the subject group to view all messages > with a specific subject header. Sorry if I can't explain it more clearly. Naw, it was me. My brained forked for a minute. However, the setting in the config was correct. Tick it to expand them or untick to close them. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updates
Hello all did anyone ever figure out how to get the security update feature to work? When I try the ftp server is found, however the rpm manager just hanfs when trying to access the site. I'm using mandrake 8.0 by the way. Thanks Mark A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
It didn't work for me...perhaps kmail is corrupted. Would you mind telling me what version of KDE and kmail you are using? I am using the version contained in the original build of mandrake 8...I haven't upgraded yet. On Thursday 13 September 2001 19:19, bascule wrote: > hi, i highlighted this text (below the 'On Frid..etc) > r. clicked and chose reply, voila! > > bascule > > On Friday 14 September 2001 11:40 pm, you wrote: > > am fairly certain this has been addresed before. I also read on > > somewhere that there is a feature where you can highlight text in an > > email and when you choose reply, you will reply only to the highlighted > > text. Would anybody know how to implement this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
hi, i highlighted this text (below the 'On Frid..etc) r. clicked and chose reply, voila! bascule On Friday 14 September 2001 11:40 pm, you wrote: > am fairly certain this has been addresed before. I also read on somewhere > that there is a feature where you can highlight text in an email and when > you choose reply, you will reply only to the highlighted text. Would > anybody know how to implement this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] filters in Kmail
On Friday 14 September 2001 05:25 pm, Stan Lockaby wrote: > > In replying to this post, I wish to thank all who responded. I'll play with > all of this a bit, and see what happens. Thanks much. > > Peace, > Stan Well... we were getting bored... no problem. :-) j/k -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake?
On Friday 14 September 2001 05:07 pm, d wrote: > LURKER here, if I may? I have conversed with Mr. Havlik before and he is > NOT the OGER you think of. He is just wanting to keep this "On Topic" for > what it is supposed to be used. I have been bumped for unknown reasons > about a year ago. That is NOT a big problem...just apologize and request > to be re-instated. I would rather see this keep to the topic at hand and > be productive than fall into a trench compairing other wars, conflicts, and > disagreements or name calling. This is Un-productive and not good for us > or the others that are involved. We are all on the same Space Ship, let us > work together and make it a better place for ALL. > > THE END! > > > TIA, > 'd' > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > San Antonio, Texas Ummm. Mandrake was having some trouble with their news servers about that time. whole lots of people just suddenly quit getting any new messages. We ended up going back to the site and put our names back on it. No body from mandrake said anything about banning people for off topic, just *that* topic. It was too contraversial - I was the first to suggest not discussing it and the second to post on the topic. I warned it'd get ugly. I told you so :-D -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
Which one do most of you prefer? I use gnome, and in Mandrake 7 it default installed Enlightenment and in 8 it defaulted to Sawfish. I'm not sure if the features I liked in Enlightenment exist and I don't know how to set them up, or whether they were features of Enlightenment. For starters, my X-Windows doesn't display menu's on a rightclick on the desktop. Is that an option in Sawfish? Heck I can't even figure out how to change my background. I'd like to RTFM but all I can find is help for gnome, and I'm not sure which parts are gnome and which parts are Sawfish. Tips, tricks, suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
On Friday 14 September 2001 05:40 pm, jennifer wrote: > I have been searching for a post regarding how to expand and collapse the > subject groups in kmail's threaded messages. I would rather have my inbox > set up so i would only see on message header for each thread instead of all > messages in every thread. Similiar to using the plus and minus signs to > the right of messages in Lookout?? Oh, I mean Outlook. > > I am fairly certain this has been addresed before. I also read on somewhere > that there is a feature where you can highlight text in an email and when > you choose reply, you will reply only to the highlighted text. Would > anybody know how to implement this? There's a setting for it in the settings menu > configure kmail > appearance > Layout. There's also an option in Folder called "thread messages". Even windows people should know how to peruse a menu. geeezzz. Just joking, just joking... couldn't resist. :-) -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Expand/collapse in kmail
I have been searching for a post regarding how to expand and collapse the subject groups in kmail's threaded messages. I would rather have my inbox set up so i would only see on message header for each thread instead of all messages in every thread. Similiar to using the plus and minus signs to the right of messages in Lookout?? Oh, I mean Outlook. I am fairly certain this has been addresed before. I also read on somewhere that there is a feature where you can highlight text in an email and when you choose reply, you will reply only to the highlighted text. Would anybody know how to implement this? -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] filters in Kmail
> > Here's what I had as a filter for the Newbie list in KMail back when I used > it (I have since switched to Sylpheed): > > contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I've had a 100% success rate with this. In replying to this post, I wish to thank all who responded. I'll play with all of this a bit, and see what happens. Thanks much. Peace, Stan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT?
We seem to have the same idea if you refer to one of my posts earlier. If we can't do this on -list , lets do it off-list. Charles, Since I am guilty of "flaming you" and contradicting myself about posting OT, I again, offer my apologies. While I do still think there is a difference about that topic and this, I no less humbly admit my own contradictions. (and change of heart) I hope that the majority of the poster to this list have not already been kicked off. I hope the show of hands support OT, but if not, I would be more than happy to join an off-list list. After all...silence is not a coping mechanism. On Thursday 13 September 2001 20:30, Charles A. Punch wrote: > I have refrained from posting OT since Dennis HAVLIK posted about > kicking people off the list. However, that was not the only one reason. > The other is that I have had arguments in the past about posting OT, and > I see some of the same people who flamed me about my opinion are now > posting OT themselves, because this is not just another OT, this is > different. This topic about the nation's tragedy is something that most > people can't seem to ignore. Someone posted calling for a show of hands. > I vote to allow OT. Someone else inquired if everyone had stopped > because of Dennis HAVLIK's post. With all due respect to Mr. HAVLIK, the > main reason I have refrained recently, is out of respect to those who > feel so strongly against posting OT, that they have gone somewhat off > the deep end emotionally and resorted to name calling. I don't want to > be responsible for driving someone to that extreme. We have enough of a > problem. The purpose of discussing the tragedy, is to try to work > through it, not to create more of a problem. Unity is more important > than my piddling "freedom of speech." I offer an invitation to anyone > who wants to discuss this, or anything else off list, until this is > cleared up ( and I'll try to actually post off list this time). I have a > great deal of respect for everyone on this list, even those whom I have > had differences with in the past. At the same time I don't wan to stick > a gig in someone who is already hurting emotionally. > > ShalomOut > Chal > > Elder PCUSA > Registered Linux user 3217118 > > Shalom does not mean peace (in the sense of absence of conflict). It > means completeness and fulfillment. It could possibly be understood as > "peace of mind." > > Paraphrased from the exeGesis Paralell Bible, an Aramaic translation and > transliteration by exegete Herb Jahn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake?
LURKER here, if I may? I have conversed with Mr. Havlik before and he is NOT the OGER you think of. He is just wanting to keep this "On Topic" for what it is supposed to be used. I have been bumped for unknown reasons about a year ago. That is NOT a big problem...just apologize and request to be re-instated. I would rather see this keep to the topic at hand and be productive than fall into a trench compairing other wars, conflicts, and disagreements or name calling. This is Un-productive and not good for us or the others that are involved. We are all on the same Space Ship, let us work together and make it a better place for ALL. THE END! TIA, 'd' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] i810 chipset support....
Getting a bad exit status trying to install the accelerated x-server for i810 chipset support. I can install the XFCom** file successfully but when I try to rebuild the kernal module I get the bad exit status listed below: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.57140 (%build) Has anyone else tried to install this patch or been able to install it successfully??? Running Mandrake 7.0, XFree86 version 3.3.6 Steve
Re: [newbie] filenames with spaces causing error in script
i have also tried the following: $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename "$file" .wav`".mp3;done i think this is fine apart from the first line, i think this is feeding each seperate word in a filename as a filename to the lame command, i think that it might actually be complicated to return a list of files that have spacenames and assign each whole filename to a variable am i wrong? bascule On Thursday 13 September 2001 10:18 pm, I wrote: > hi, > i have used the following to convert some homemade wavs into mp3s: > $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 $file `basename $file > .wav`.mp3;done > > it works fine except for file names with spaces, i can't work out how to > rectify this, i have also tried: > $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file > .wav`.mp3";done > > and > $ for file in "`ls *.wav`";do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file > .wav`".mp3;done > > as you can see i've tried using "" around references to file names but this > hasn't helped, could someone please help me out > > tia > > bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list
Gary, > This list is for the people by the people and if we as a > whole want to allow > off topic conversations, then we should allow it. If not, we shouldn't. Actually this is a list that is hosted, operated and paid for by Mandrake. They set it up and contribute to it for the purpose of helping people use Linux. It is not a democratic forum. That the management at Mandrake hasn't taken people off the list (I could be wrong about that but haven't seen much evidence to suggest it) suggests they are okay with the list being used to discuss other matters. I respect that decision but I would respect them just as much if they were to remove people who consistently ignored the list's charter. > Either way, we need to remain respectful of each other and not let our > emotions get the best of us. I've seen several postings come through that > were nothing more than attacks on other members of the list. That > is uncalled > for. Totally agree with that. > We all have (or at least we all should have) a delete key > as well as most of > us have filters that can block messages (to some extent) that we > don't wish > to receive. I don't mind receiving emails about other topics. I > joined the > list to offer assistance on any subjects that I am familiar with > as I have > often struggled with Linux over the last 18 months since my first > installation. I have worked through a lot of problems and have > had along the > way and I'd like to help others. But that help doesn't have to end with > Linux. We are all human. We all feel pain, sorrow, loss, etc. > Most of us feel > very bad about what happened recently and the impact that the events will > have on the families directly affected as well as our nation and > the world. > We need to be able to express ourselves when the need arises > without worrying > about which list we are posting too or whether the topic is > relevant. If I > receive a post that I don't care about, I can hit the delete key and it's > gone, end of story (I don't as I always keep everything just in > case I want > to refer back). > I suggest that before anyone gets offended to the poing of > leaving the list, > we have a show of hands, or in this case a show of posts as to > who wants to > allow other postings, and who does not. I'll start by saying that I am in > favor of allowing off topic postings as long as they do not flood > the list. A > few here and there don't hurt anything. We are here for Mandrake > Linux but > there are other things to life and sometimes we need to discuss > those other > things. I have pretty much the same feelings except that at this point I think the WTC-threads have gone way over the line in terms of volume. I understand and agree with your point about wanting to discuss things with people you know and trust. It seems to me that it would be more productive and less noisy to use another list (like the one civileme setup on Yahoo's eGroups) for that purpose. You wouldn't have so many people complaining and you could actually get to the heart of the matter instead of defending your right to post here. Just a thought. I'll be using my delete button in the meantime. ::mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fostering the linux comunity spirit...... and a question about mandrake security level..and another one on Bind..
Hi all, I have been scanning these off topic USA posts since they started on my windows box, and i never delete the mandrake posts. so my outlook.pst file is 700 mb... nasty that,,, anyway, my thought is this,,, some things that are off topic should be ok, if they help foster the linux community spirit, and co-operation... Once things degenerate to all out name calling and fighting, its doing the opposite to the above and quite rightly should be taken off the list... We want to appear as rational, logical people to the world, not linux fanatics... remember all these posts get archived to the web and are searchable by google, (someone did a search for me the other day and found about 1000 links from the 15 or 20 lists I am on...) How do you want us to appear to the world?? keep that in mind We want to make the windows users look like the illogical, arguementative and irrationnal people... so when it starts being less then beneficial and friendly, then it should be removed... As an example, the USA thing was fine when it was a sharing of thoughts, sympathy, prayers and support.. (this helps healing and understanding.) It bordered on "not so fine" when it became a discussion on racism, prejudice and blame(this fosters bad feelings, predominately anger.) you see my point... I think Mandrake did the right thing to try to stop the thread, it could have been worded alittle more sensitively... but it is their mailing list, and it was starting to become arguementative and combative... name hncalling and insults achieve nothing except to make us look bad. and this was my last say on the subject. One another subject, if I want to set security level 5 or high,, (to start really closed system, and then open just what I need... ) Is there anything available that explains how to open just what I need?? (ie how to get port 25 open and listening for postfix... ditto with 80 and httpd, ditto with bind on 53 (or the high ports) ssh,,, etc, etc, you get the idea. It seems more logical then starting at security level Medium and then installing the secure kernel, pmfirewall, portsentry. and trying to harden it as much as possible myself,,, if I could start hard and soften to my needs, no doubt it would be more secure in the long run. (not that I wouldn't do all of the above even if I could do it,, I just think the end results would be more secure. also, if you run a newer bind, and it is using the higher ports, how can you open the firewall to allow it if you don't know that ports its using??? I have our bind tied to port 53, and it gets lots of attack attempts (thousands) and I'd like to block 53 and open the higher ports... does anyone know anything about this?? rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT?
I have refrained from posting OT since Dennis HAVLIK posted about kicking people off the list. However, that was not the only one reason. The other is that I have had arguments in the past about posting OT, and I see some of the same people who flamed me about my opinion are now posting OT themselves, because this is not just another OT, this is different. This topic about the nation's tragedy is something that most people can't seem to ignore. Someone posted calling for a show of hands. I vote to allow OT. Someone else inquired if everyone had stopped because of Dennis HAVLIK's post. With all due respect to Mr. HAVLIK, the main reason I have refrained recently, is out of respect to those who feel so strongly against posting OT, that they have gone somewhat off the deep end emotionally and resorted to name calling. I don't want to be responsible for driving someone to that extreme. We have enough of a problem. The purpose of discussing the tragedy, is to try to work through it, not to create more of a problem. Unity is more important than my piddling "freedom of speech." I offer an invitation to anyone who wants to discuss this, or anything else off list, until this is cleared up ( and I'll try to actually post off list this time). I have a great deal of respect for everyone on this list, even those whom I have had differences with in the past. At the same time I don't wan to stick a gig in someone who is already hurting emotionally. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user 3217118 Shalom does not mean peace (in the sense of absence of conflict). It means completeness and fulfillment. It could possibly be understood as "peace of mind." Paraphrased from the exeGesis Paralell Bible, an Aramaic translation and transliteration by exegete Herb Jahn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] filenames with spaces causing error in script
hi, i have used the following to convert some homemade wavs into mp3s: $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 $file `basename $file .wav`.mp3;done it works fine except for file names with spaces, i can't work out how to rectify this, i have also tried: $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file .wav`.mp3";done and $ for file in "`ls *.wav`";do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file .wav`".mp3;done as you can see i've tried using "" around references to file names but this hasn't helped, could someone please help me out tia bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake?
I had a similar idea, but maybe this yours is better. Could call it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) -s On Friday 14 September 2001 03:36 pm, jennifer wrote: > This was recieved by the list... > > I would like to extend the invitation to those would like to keep > discussing our grief with members on this list to create a mailing list for > that purpose. Email me and I will create a makeshift mailing list of those > interested. Especially if you were "accidently bumped" (whatta jerk) off > list by mr. havlik. > > This list *is* supposed to be unmoderated after all. > > On Friday 14 September 2001 15:05, etharp wrote: > > I have not received any mail from either the newbie list or the expert > > list since this morning, when I asked everyone to stay on the list to > > learn what we can. I hope we have not decided to take such measures at > > this time, when cool heads MUST prevail. > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Description: > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list
I think the argument of whether or not various topics should be allowed in this list or not has gotten a bit out of hand. Lets quickly look at both sides and see if we can come to a conclusion. First we have those that want to post about seemingly unrelated topics. Should this be allowed? The argument has been made that some people have to pay for access and should be spared the undue burden of paying for time to download messages of a non-relevant topic. While this may be a good reason, it's being argued by the wrong person/people. I have not read a single post from someone who is on a pay per minute/hour type account and who feels burdened by this. By allowing posts of an unrelated nature we do run the risk of this becoming an open forum to discuss anything and everything. There are better places for discussing unrelated topics if it's ongoing. Second we have those who wish to post about seemingly unrelated topics in this list for several reasons, one of them being that they feel comfortable with those that frequent this list. Trajedy affects different people in different ways. Some need to quietly reflect and work through it on their own. Others need to talk to someone, anyone about what has happened. We each have our own way of coping with sorrow and loss. Once you have been on a mailing list for a while, it starts to become familiar and you feel safe within the list. You build friendships and you start to know one another. You feel safe discussing things with other members of the list that you wouldn't want to discuss with strangers so rather than go to a different list and discuss these things with strangers, you discuss them here among friends. This list is for the people by the people and if we as a whole want to allow off topic conversations, then we should allow it. If not, we shouldn't. Either way, we need to remain respectful of each other and not let our emotions get the best of us. I've seen several postings come through that were nothing more than attacks on other members of the list. That is uncalled for. We all have (or at least we all should have) a delete key as well as most of us have filters that can block messages (to some extent) that we don't wish to receive. I don't mind receiving emails about other topics. I joined the list to offer assistance on any subjects that I am familiar with as I have often struggled with Linux over the last 18 months since my first installation. I have worked through a lot of problems and have had along the way and I'd like to help others. But that help doesn't have to end with Linux. We are all human. We all feel pain, sorrow, loss, etc. Most of us feel very bad about what happened recently and the impact that the events will have on the families directly affected as well as our nation and the world. We need to be able to express ourselves when the need arises without worrying about which list we are posting too or whether the topic is relevant. If I receive a post that I don't care about, I can hit the delete key and it's gone, end of story (I don't as I always keep everything just in case I want to refer back). I suggest that before anyone gets offended to the poing of leaving the list, we have a show of hands, or in this case a show of posts as to who wants to allow other postings, and who does not. I'll start by saying that I am in favor of allowing off topic postings as long as they do not flood the list. A few here and there don't hurt anything. We are here for Mandrake Linux but there are other things to life and sometimes we need to discuss those other things. Gary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake?
This was recieved by the list... I would like to extend the invitation to those would like to keep discussing our grief with members on this list to create a mailing list for that purpose. Email me and I will create a makeshift mailing list of those interested. Especially if you were "accidently bumped" (whatta jerk) off list by mr. havlik. This list *is* supposed to be unmoderated after all. On Friday 14 September 2001 15:05, etharp wrote: > I have not received any mail from either the newbie list or the expert list > since this morning, when I asked everyone to stay on the list to learn what > we can. I hope we have not decided to take such measures at this time, when > cool heads MUST prevail. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StartX-problems
> > Your font server, xfs is not running. One reason for xfs not starting may be > that you have deleted or moved the folders where all the fonts are stored. > To verify that you still have fonts to load, open this file at the shell > command prompt: > > vi /etc/X11/fs/config > > You ought to see some typing about halfway down that looks like this: > > catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk:unscaled, > /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 > > ...Those are all the folders that contain fonts. If none or some of these > folders are missing or empty you must re-install your fonts. > > If you have more questions you can reply straight to me. > > Richie > I have proofed this. The file /etc/X11/fs/config exists and the paths which are there exists too. Last time I have installed the system new but its take too long and I must configure everithing again, from new. Thank You for help. Seba Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:52:30 -0500, you wrote: >MR HAVLIK. > >How many of your Mandrake customers are dead or maimed? How many potential >Mandrake business customers responsible for the re-building of IT >infrastructure have you just alienated? Does the death of more than five >thousand souls not transend the fact that this is a Linux mailing list? > >These are unprecedented events and you should take that into consideration. >This affects all countries, all peoples of the world and Mandrake Linux is >NOT more important. I do agree there may be forums set-up to discuss these >issues, but any place to communicate is appropriate and proper. > >If you have noticed, the original purpose of the list is proceeding as >normal, so what is the big deal? >You allow other OT topics such as Bill Gates is Satan and XP can be cracked. >What do these have to do with your customers learning how to use your >product? Not one damned thing, yet you and others defend the right for such >inappropriate postings. > >It seems to me that given your experiences you would understand, obviously >you do not! This is a world forum to discuss things which affect Linux and >Mandrake, is it not? Don't you think these past few days affect Linux & >Mandrake? > >Blacklist me if you like, I'm not sure I want to associate with someone like >you any further. > >Good day and open your mind! > Thats the part that really gets me - off topic, long ranging threads that don't mean shit can be discussed for weeks...but this, well, no! :-/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] TEST! was I thrown off the newbie list by Denis HAVLIK? is this a blow FOR Mandrake?
I have not received any mail from either the newbie list or the expert list since this morning, when I asked everyone to stay on the list to learn what we can. I hope we have not decided to take such measures at this time, when cool heads MUST prevail. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] filters in Kmail
On Saturday 15 September 2001 02:00, you wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2001 11:13 pm, Stan Lockaby wrote: > > Greetings all. I have my filters set up in Kmail so that anything with > > "Newbie" in the subject line or in the "to" field should be sent to > > another folder. This mostly works, but many posts from this slip > > through to my inbox. Upon examination, I can see no reason why these > > misbehaving posts are any different from others that are filtered. I > > am running LM8. Any ideas? TIA, > > Peace > > stan Hi stan My filter works 100% in KDE2.2 with KMail 1.3. It previously worked 100% IN KDE2.1 with KMail 1.2(?). Match all of the following: Subjectcontains[newbie] Perhaps the square brackets make a difference? Good luck. skinky _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume
Really, just to respond to the here, this is a problem that a lot of ISPs run into. Here's a basic run down of why. Some ISPs don't use very advanced equipment. And even those that do, there are always issues of software and of telecommunications isssues. Some small town ISPs are, for lack of a better comment, cheap bastards. They purchase 33.6 bps modems, and have them flash upgraded to whatever standard they need. So when you dial into your ISP, you're getting one of these cheap modems. Now, when a customer logs on, and then decides they've had their fill of all things Internet, the modem doesn't kill the call. So there's a modem there, that could be used, but is not! National average, for a dialup session is between 25 and 35 minutes. Yes there are those people that spend hours upon hours on the Internet, but across the board, you can say that most people spend 30 minutes on line. So as an ISP admin, you come across busy signals for users, or some other issue(Such as percieved paranoia by the ISP in your case Randy.), they kill the call to allow others to dial in. Even on more "advanced" equipment, the same problem comes into play. My day job is to monitor the worlds largest dialup network. (One of our customers, and our largest customers is AOL.) We have 3Com cards in modem racks around the world that cost anywhere from $10,000 to $5,000 EACH. Some of these modem cards have 24 modems, some of them have 4 modems on them. The code itself is pretty good, and there are some customers that have hours they spend on line with no problems. But at the same time, there are other problems such as code, or errors on the circuit that give incorrect information and a call appears to be a hung call. Where the call is no longer there, but the circuit and/or modem thinks it's still being used. So to combat that, a lot of local ISPs just do resets of modems after a certain time. Some of them do it via a script, some actually go and do it manually. And for these local ISPs, if you antagonize the owner or company, they my seek you our and drop your call. (I've known this to happen!) As far as your hardware causing a disconnect, it is possible. For example, V.90 has a "bug" that when downloading large email attachments, it may take a piece of the data, and confuse it as a disconnect singal. When you're downloading saying a 1Mb email message, and your modem tries to renegotiate the speed, it may get 10 digits of data, then pause. Well those last 3 digits may be seen as a disconnect command, and then do so. There's also the issue of line noise. This is harder to prove, but it's very possible and does happen quite often. Right behind my house runs a major highway, with semis of all sizes flying by. Hitting a bump in the road, and a semi's bouncing and vibration can shake a telephone pole and create line noise. The only problem is, that's a draw back of analog signals, and it's hard to prove unless it was being monitored at the exact moment. So the information you were given, does hold some truth to it, but I more suspect, that in your instance, your ISP may have been irritated with your call and is doing this purposely. :0) Hope that clears things up a little for ya. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Real Men Use Vi!" Uptime: 1:55pm up 4 days, 5:41, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | | (Except that my ISP has changed his rules since I signed up, and now | considers that if I remain connected for more than 4 to 12 hours (I | forget the exact rules), I am "hanging", and he takes it upon himself to | disconnect me. I can reconnect, but he seems to have his watchful eye | on me -- since I found out about the change in policy (I wasn't | notified), and when I called to find out what the problem was, I was | told that this policy was on the contract I signed (it isn't), and since | that phone call I'm quite certain I get disconnected more often than I | did before that phone call. (I should start a collection of logs, but | they claim that not all of the disconnections come from them -- some of | them might be from the phone company or other causes (my hardware? I | don't think so). Anyway, I didn't mean to get into that, but if anyone | knows how I can determine the cause of a disconnection not at my end of | the phone line, please let me know.) | | | Here is a page I've started for the purpose of assembling information | about metered access to the Internet (or email). | |* http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Test/MeteredInternetAccess | | Thanks, | Randy Kramer -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Libarary compatibility
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:18:01 -0400, mcoady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>In my ongoing attempt to get Mandrake8 to accept an earlier version of WP8, I >> >tried to install the earlier library libc5 via rpm. > >>However I get the message: "file /etc/nsswitch.conf from install of >> >libc5-5.4.38-3 conflicts with file from package glibc-2.2.2-3.mdk > >>Does this not mean that the older library cannot coexist with a newer one? >> > >Is the libc package a Mandrake 8.0 RPM? > I am having a similar problem. The only RPM I could find was a Caldera one. This is the same one that I used before and it worked fine. WhenI try to unpack it, I get an error message. I have since made many changes to my system, so I am thinking that it may be another conflict within my system and not a problem with the RPM itself. Just guessing. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 >If so, try this: > >1. Make a backup of /etc/nsswitch.conf >2. Install libc5 >3. Restore the old /etc/nsswitch.conf, in place of the new one >4. Install WP8. > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume
Randy Kramer wrote: (Except that my ISP has changed his rules since I signed up, and now considers that if I remain connected for more than 4 to 12 hours (I forget the exact rules), I am "hanging", and he takes it upon himself to disconnect me. I can reconnect, but he seems to have his watchful eye on me -- I used to get that kind of treatment from AOL, but I changed to earthlink, when I got serious about Linux and have never had that problem since. Another thing that struck me as strange, was that AOL gave me about 3 numbers and when I complained about waiting too l,ong to comnect, they gave me 3 more. Earthlink gave me just one number and I have never had a long wait to connect or been cut off. I hope this don't sound like a commercial, but I gotta tell it like it is. About the discussion of inappropriate topics, I feel that we should try to get along with each other first, before we start trying to save the world. I would like to see everyone on this list try to respect each other a little more. Some already are, but the majority are not. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
yep, or if it's a win95 or win98 boot disk, it is on the A: drive. Quoting Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Adam, not two weeks ago I did exactly the same thing, and it was a weekend > so I had no way of finding out how to fix it. you might want to wait for > someone to confirm this answer, but you use a Windoze Boot disk get into > the > c drive ( dir c: and press enter) then fdisk /mbr this clears the Master > Boot Record.biut like I said, wait for confirmation from someone else > > -Original Message- > From: Adam Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14 September 2001 12:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Grub problems > > > I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which > would load a text bootloader fine. > > However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the > lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. > > Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I > don't know how to get past it. > > Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the > machine boots straight into Windows? > > Thanks > > Adam > > __ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list
I think this is because most people know more about Windows than LInux. I know I do. If somebody has a question to ask and I know the answer(and I had the time to read e-mail that day), I answer it. jim Quoting John W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes this is a Linux mailing list. I am often amazed at how many Linux > questions go unanswered and how much time is spemt helping people > with general windows questions. I have voiced my opinions about this and > the answer I was given, "Do you have a delete key"? > So if you are not happy with the attacks on the USA use your delete key and > > your filters!!! > > John > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list
MR HAVLIK. How many of your Mandrake customers are dead or maimed? How many potential Mandrake business customers responsible for the re-building of IT infrastructure have you just alienated? Does the death of more than five thousand souls not transend the fact that this is a Linux mailing list? These are unprecedented events and you should take that into consideration. This affects all countries, all peoples of the world and Mandrake Linux is NOT more important. I do agree there may be forums set-up to discuss these issues, but any place to communicate is appropriate and proper. If you have noticed, the original purpose of the list is proceeding as normal, so what is the big deal? You allow other OT topics such as Bill Gates is Satan and XP can be cracked. What do these have to do with your customers learning how to use your product? Not one damned thing, yet you and others defend the right for such inappropriate postings. It seems to me that given your experiences you would understand, obviously you do not! This is a world forum to discuss things which affect Linux and Mandrake, is it not? Don't you think these past few days affect Linux & Mandrake? Blacklist me if you like, I'm not sure I want to associate with someone like you any further. Good day and open your mind! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ultimate security on Mandrake box
On Friday 14 September 2001 16:52, Joe Lareau wrote: > Hi- > > I am trying to harden my Mandrake 8.0 box as much as possible. I would like > your thoughts on what tools should be installed, and in what order. > > Specifically, I have heard I should install Bastille-Linux, ipchains, TCP > wrapperswhat else is there? Does it matter the order? Does there exist > a security checklist for Mandrake on how to harden the machine? This > machine will be a web server. > > > Thanks, > Joe Hmmm well you are missing the obvious setting of security level to what you want. SECURE_LEVEL=5 Put that in /etc/profile and /etc/zprofile and soon you will likely want to change back to HIGH. That is called the Paranoid setting and it is very secure, even from you. Workarounds exist for you, but you better figure on running things from chroot jails. Better yet, wait just a little longer for one with much improved security features and journaling filesystems. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]Dialling out problem
John Rye wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:24:06 -0700 (PDT) > Adam Cripps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have just installed and am looking forward to >> getting on the net with Linux. My modem - (COM2) seems >> to be working fine, but when it dials the ISP number I >> get a woman on the network (recorded voice) saying >> that the number has not been recognised, please try >> again. >> >> I think the problem stems from the fact that for the >> ISP (NTL - dialling in the UK) I have to dial a prefix >> of 1263 - it might be this that causes problems in the >> dialing process. Is there any way of getting a pause >> between the 1263 and the rest of the 0800 number? > > > Adam, Your message above is a little confusing... > > Do you mean that you have to dial 1263 _before_ you can > access the general telephone network?? If that's the case > it would indicate that the first part of the number (1263) is > used to get outside of a PABX (Private Branch Exchange) the > internnal telephone system used by a business, and the recorded > message comes from the PABX equipment rather than the > General network. > > If you are calling from home, you would only use the 0800-number. > If from your work, and your workplace uses a PABX then you > have to use the first part as well. > > It may be that if you add a comma in the dial string after the 1 and > another after the 263 part you will get through the PABX exchange. > > Your dialstring in this case should look like this: > > ATDT1,263,0800 xxx (the x's for the other numbers) > > Give this a try and come back to us. (you can also try dialing the > nembers from your telephone to see what you get from which ever > location you attemting to get access from - you should get noises > similar to those you hear from fax machines when you connect to > your ISP's modem > > Cheers > > John > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Thanks for the reply John. Things in the UK are a little confusing at the moment, but to let you know, that I've solved the problem with the comma. Over here, we can opt out of using BT's network (they used to have a monopoly until only a few years ago) and other companies get you to run across their network by dialling a prefix - so it's not to get an outside line, it's to jump to your phone provider from BT. Their 0800 number won't work unless you're on their network. I hope that makes some sense, it is difficult to explain. Adam _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay foremail access by volume
on 9/14/01 9:58 AM, Randy Kramer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt Greer wrote: >> Actually that's not true. Here in Chicago local calls cost by the minute, as >> much as 9 cents per minute. This is probably true of New York and LA as >> well, but I don't know for sure. > > Matt, > > Thanks for the reply! > > So in Chicago, you can't pay a (slighly (or significantly?)) higher rate > to get unlimited local calls? There's a plan where you can pay a fee (I think it's $10/month) then all calls are ten cents per call. The cost of the local call depends on distance. Close calls are 5 cents/call. The longest distance is the 9 cents/minute I said previously. The plan above makes all calls ten cents regardless of distance. My problem was I never found any isp within the 5 cents/call range where I live. The best I could find was 5 cents/minute. But no matter what you do, there's no unlimited calls at a fixed rate. At least there wasn't, I haven't had a phone in a little over a year now. I'll dig on Ameritech's site and see if I can find the rates. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume
Matt Greer wrote: > Actually that's not true. Here in Chicago local calls cost by the minute, as > much as 9 cents per minute. This is probably true of New York and LA as > well, but I don't know for sure. Matt, Thanks for the reply! So in Chicago, you can't pay a (slighly (or significantly?)) higher rate to get unlimited local calls? Thanks, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ultimate security on Mandrake box
Hi- I am trying to harden my Mandrake 8.0 box as much as possible. I would like your thoughts on what tools should be installed, and in what order. Specifically, I have heard I should install Bastille-Linux, ipchains, TCP wrapperswhat else is there? Does it matter the order? Does there exist a security checklist for Mandrake on how to harden the machine? This machine will be a web server. Thanks, Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay foremail access by volume
on 9/14/01 8:55 AM, Paul at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Most people in Europe that do not have access to ADSL or Cable internet (like > me). Using a phone line already costs money, local phone calls are charged > between $0.60 and $1.00 per hour (as far as I know) > >> What I mean is that the US is not a place where, AFAIK, anyone should >> have such a problem. Actually that's not true. Here in Chicago local calls cost by the minute, as much as 9 cents per minute. This is probably true of New York and LA as well, but I don't know for sure. I have a cable modem and cell phone and it's actually cheaper than having a standard phone line and dial up internet access. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] maximal mount count error
On Friday 14 September 2001 15:47, Seeun William Umboh wrote: > When I boot up, I sometimes get a maximal mount count error, check forced. > What does this mean? How do I avoid it? > You don't avoid it. It is a maintenance function, not an error. After a certain number of mounts (default 35), the filesystem receives a brief check. Be happy you are seeing this check instead of the other one that comes from an emergency shutdown (same check, but one triggered cause buffers were dirty when the system went down). Civileme Yes there is a way to set the number of mounts to allow, but I don't remember it off the top of my head. It is in the /etc/ directory. Now back to work for me. > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Getting X11 to use Mesa ?
Hey all, Ok this email is more like two questions than one. I currently have a Nvidia Geforce2 Mx/200 with 64 megs of ram. My query is it possible to use the Mesa3d library rather than Nvidias native GLX module (I'm prepared to lose some performance). If so, how would I go about getting X to load the mesa library so that I can use opengl apps from X11 ? Thanks Marcin Jendrzejewski PS: I want to do this because the nvidia driver seems unable to load the GLX module for X11. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't find StarOffice in KDE menu
You can put whatever you like into an RPM package, including links. however, most independent packagers (i.e. those not packaging for a distribution company) don't bother doing this. Also, some distributions like Debian and Mandrake have their own menu systems, which are incompatible with the default systems. On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:08:22 +0100, "Antonio Argentieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a complete newbie... > Does anything automatically link itself into the menus? > I've installed a number of things off the LM CD and never got links to > them... > > Is linking part of the RPM standard? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Kasky > Sent: 14 September 2001 01:53 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't find StarOffice in KDE menu > > > I even reported this little bug to Star and never heard anything back... > > I just manually created the links. > > Ed > At 07:07 PM 9/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >I installed StarOffice.. and it tells me it is installed into the KDE menu. > I > >restarted my KDE. But it's still not in the KDE menu. How can I make it > >appear? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] filters in Kmail
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:53:20 -0400, Richie de Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 14 September 2001 00:13, you wrote: > > Greetings all. I have my filters set up in Kmail so that anything with > > "Newbie" in the subject line or in the "to" field should be sent to another > > folder. This mostly works, but many posts from this slip through to my > > inbox. Upon examination, I can see no reason why these misbehaving posts > > are any different from others that are filtered. I am running LM8. Any > > ideas? TIA, > > Peace > > stan > > I got around it by setting a couple of extra filters just to make sure. > There is one option in KMail filters called , and you might want > to set up another filter to check the header. > > Since I've added extra filters I'm catching about 98% of all the emails that > should be going to my 'Newbie' folder. > > I wonder sometimes, since these emails are coming from all over the world, if > some of the pattern matches in the filtering mechanism fail because the > messages are using an incompatible character set. That's only a wild guess > though. > > Richie Here's what I had as a filter for the Newbie list in KMail back when I used it (I have since switched to Sylpheed): contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had a 100% success rate with this. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] maximal mount count error
On Friday 14 September 2001 08:47, Seeun William Umboh wrote: > When I boot up, I sometimes get a maximal mount count error, check forced. > What does this mean? How do I avoid it? > Here's what http://www.mandrakeuser.org has to say about the subject: "maximal mount count reached - check forced" This is not an error, it's a feature ;-). After a specified number of reboots GNU/Linux checks the filesystem for consistency even if the box has been shutdown properly. This can take some time, especially on large partitions. You can set the interval with tune2fs. I would always recomment these 2 sources of information: 1) The Mandrake reference manual. It's well written and chapter 13 on trouble shooting is invaluable for newbies! You should find it in HTML format on your hard drive: /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/ref.html/index.html 2) http://www.mandrakeuser.org It is written for newbies and I've always found it to be very readable. . Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] maximal mount count error
On Friday 14 September 2001 08:47, you wrote: > When I boot up, I sometimes get a maximal mount count error, check forced. > What does this mean? How do I avoid it? > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp It's not really an error and you don't want to avoid it. It's a good thing. The system is setup to allow you to mount the partitions at boot a certain number of times. Once this number is reached, it checks your disk and then resets the counter. This just helps to keep any minor disk problems from cropping up. I'm sure as with all things Linux, there is a way that you could disable it. It may require simply adjusting a setting in a config file, or recompiling something or several somethings but it could be done, unlike in the "take it or leave it" world of Windoze. Gary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume
> Out of curiosity, I would be interested in having some ideas about: > >* how many people (what regions of the world) have to pay a "metered" > rate for their Internet access Most people in Europe that do not have access to ADSL or Cable internet (like me). Using a phone line already costs money, local phone calls are charged between $0.60 and $1.00 per hour (as far as I know) > What I mean is that the US is not a place where, AFAIK, anyone should > have such a problem. Correct. In the US. I am in the Netherlands, paying an ISDN line (about US$ 30 a month), my ISP ($15 a month) and the local phone charges of $.60 per hour. No charge on the amount of bandwidth I use unless I take things to extremes. But with these charges, taking the extreme route is not what I am aiming at. I don't even download things > 8 megs. Only downloading my mail and usenet messages (offline) costs me around $100 per month, not counting the costs of the ISDN line. (I used mailfilter to toss spam etc. off the server before downloading, but that took about as long as downloading everything and then let procmail take care of things.) Expensive enough, me thinks... I hope this satisfies part of your curiosity. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Screen Resolution Problem
On Friday 14 September 2001 08:40, you wrote: > on 9/13/01 2:44 PM, Charles A Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I was saying that all resolutions are supported except > > for 24bpp. > > I could run 32bpp in both linux and windows as well as > > 16bpp and all lower settins but Not 24bpp. > > Heh heh, I feel pretty stupid. My computer (running the riva tnt2) runs at > 32bpp just fine. I started at 8 and worked my way up. When 24 didn't work I > just assumed 32 wouldn't either. > > Thanks for pointing that out. > > Matt > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com You shouldn't feel stupid about what happened. You assumed that if a particular setting didn't work, none higher would which seems quite logical. Hardware is still (at least for some/most of us), the hardest part of Linux. I have been using Mandrake since 7.0 and the hardware supported has greatly improved. Mandrake 8 detected my zip drive, printer, graphics and sound cards without a hitch. I've installed several versions of 5 different distros and this is the first time that all of my hardware was detected. A lot of my friends run RedHat or FreeBSD and I hear over and over that Mandrake is just a glorified RedHat distro. Maybe at one time it was, but it's not anymore. Mandrake goes way beyond RedHat for desktop use. I haven't use Mandrake as a web server other than development use so I won't say for cetain that it is better than any other distro for that type of use but for the desktop, it kicks some serious butt. Now if only we could get that nifty "apt-get install" feature that Debian has! Gary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Original desktop colors
On Friday 14 September 2001 06:43 am, Robt. Miller wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:50:30 +0200, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > >If you're using KDE: KDE Control Centre -> LookNFeel -> Desktop -> > >Number of Desktops. There is a slider in the upper right corner that > >controls the number of desktops. > > I change that back to 4 and every reboot it reverts to two. Ummm, I find if I shut down from the cli, things don't stay put on the kde desktop. I need to log out thru kde to get them to stick. You may even have to try the checkbox for save settings for next login. Just a thought. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume
Tim Holmes wrote: > But why are people a) complaining about it, b) messages like this > suddenly being posted? It takes less time to delete an email then it > does to compose a message in complaint saying that you want something > done on the list about a certain topic. This message is intended to be carefully neutral about this thread, and is intended to only remind us all that some people do not have unlimited bandwidth but must pay by the minute (or something similar) for their connection time. Hence receiving unwanted messages costs them money. I don't know how much, I don't know whether it is a burden, but filtering does not solve the problem (unless they can set up one of the more modern approaches to filtering which I think exist and which I think can delete mail on their ISP's server before it is sent to them. Out of curiosity, I would be interested in having some ideas about: * how many people (what regions of the world) have to pay a "metered" rate for their Internet access * to how many people in each region that might be a burden (presumably no existing metered rates would impact Bill Gate's usage of the Internet) * are there really filters that work at an ISP, and can someone who is not using Linux make use of them However, I'm not proposing that lots of people post messages to this group answering the question -- it will just add to the problem. Maybe I'll start a wiki page for collecting such information, and maybe the approach should be to do it by exception. What I mean is that the US is not a place where, AFAIK, anyone should have such a problem. AFAIK, almost anywhere in the US, people can arrange to get a phone line with unlimited local usage at a reasonable rate ($15 to $40/month?), find an ISP within the local calling area, and get an unlimited usage ISP dial up account for a reasonable rate ($12 to $24/month). (Except that my ISP has changed his rules since I signed up, and now considers that if I remain connected for more than 4 to 12 hours (I forget the exact rules), I am "hanging", and he takes it upon himself to disconnect me. I can reconnect, but he seems to have his watchful eye on me -- since I found out about the change in policy (I wasn't notified), and when I called to find out what the problem was, I was told that this policy was on the contract I signed (it isn't), and since that phone call I'm quite certain I get disconnected more often than I did before that phone call. (I should start a collection of logs, but they claim that not all of the disconnections come from them -- some of them might be from the phone company or other causes (my hardware? I don't think so). Anyway, I didn't mean to get into that, but if anyone knows how I can determine the cause of a disconnection not at my end of the phone line, please let me know.) Here is a page I've started for the purpose of assembling information about metered access to the Internet (or email). * http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Test/MeteredInternetAccess Thanks, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Screen Resolution Problem
on 9/13/01 2:44 PM, Charles A Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was saying that all resolutions are supported except > for 24bpp. > I could run 32bpp in both linux and windows as well as > 16bpp and all lower settins but Not 24bpp. Heh heh, I feel pretty stupid. My computer (running the riva tnt2) runs at 32bpp just fine. I started at 8 and worked my way up. When 24 didn't work I just assumed 32 wouldn't either. Thanks for pointing that out. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Samba being very Unruly - access denied
Building Mandrake 8 server and trying to Get samba working: When I try a net view \\server_name from a W2K box it returns: System error 5 has occured. Access is denied. This is the smb.conf file I am using: [global] workgroup = MVI #MVI is my NT domain name hosts allow = all browseable = yes guest account = guest [www] comment = Root directory for hosted websites path = /var/www valid users = bob fred george #Names have been changed to protect the innocent. All are valid users public = no writable = yes ANyone have any ideas? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USA this and USA that,w here did the newbie list go?
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:41:45 +0200, you wrote: > >As I said, shit happens and we just have to live each day to the best of >our current ability. Regardless of how far away you are, regardless of the topic of this mailing list, I cannot believe you just distilled what occurred this past Tuesday to "shit happens." peace, Rog Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Attention for everybody
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:32:27 +0200, you wrote: >On a last and final note I think it is more than likely LA as it is Los >Angeles which means, I think, Without Angels. Los means the. Los Angeles means The Angels. > >Greg G wrote: >> >> no it is not the city of god >> >> __ >> Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? >> Donate cash, emergency relief information >> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ >> >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:49:17 -0400, you wrote: >Rog and everone else that cannot find the "delete" key. >Please do not abandon this list, and do not ask to be killefiled or otherwise >put your heads in the sand. world wide co-operation and "humanization" is >almost the only way we have to prevent the types of tragedies we are living >thru. I KNOW you all knew that at one point without even discussing it. true >we do NEED to keep this focused on Mandrake Linux as our tool to have a >chance to offer human kindness to individuals world wide. if we close >ourselves off, we have a much more difficult time making others realize we >are as human and caring as they are. >That said, the delete key can be found on most keyboard right below the >insert key, and to the right of the carriage return or enter. (you know, the >one you use in M$winder$ [along with the Ctrl and Alt keys] to fix a >freezeup). > etharp- I am not one of those who cannot find my "delete" key. I live 10 minutes outside the city - I can see the rubble. My girlfriend lives on 12th street, I have not been able to get to her (I'm hoping today I can get her into Jersey), and today was only the second time we were able to speak since it happened. I have countless friends in the city, including a handful that work on Wall Street, all of whom fortunately are accounted for. Most of whom saw the second plane hit. Most of whom lost friends. I can't understand the motivation to banish people from the list for posting about this...when I suggested that the mandrakesoft clown who started the blacklisting talk killfile me, it was because I simply have no need to speak to him, ever. I don't have a problem with it being posted about here - like any other social group (which is what lists like this are, regardless of the stated topic), I can't imagine it not being discussed. peace, Rog > >On Friday 14 September 2001 00:49, you had thoughts to the concept of: >> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:15:03 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: >> >FYI, I'll take a look at the list tomorrow, and blacklist everyone who is >> >still talking about politics there. You are still welcome to discuss what >> >happened in one of these threads: >> >> Just curious - do you run this list? You've said twice how you'll >> "blacklist" anyone still discussing it tomorrow as though you have the >> ability to have us thrown off the list. If you are just talking about >> killfiling people, please killfile me now, as I have no need for >> discussion with you, about Linux or anything else. > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Description: > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StartX-problems
> > When I log in and type startx the system tells me this text above. > > ... > successfully loaded NV driver RIVA GLX Version=1.2 > -FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=2 > failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' > Fatal server error: > Could not oen default font 'fixed' > ... > pleas send the full server output, no just the last message. > > XIO:fatal 10 error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" > after 0 > requests (0 known processed) with 0 event > Your font server, xfs is not running. One reason for xfs not starting may be that you have deleted or moved the folders where all the fonts are stored. To verify that you still have fonts to load, open this file at the shell command prompt: vi /etc/X11/fs/config You ought to see some typing about halfway down that looks like this: catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 ...Those are all the folders that contain fonts. If none or some of these folders are missing or empty you must re-install your fonts. If you have more questions you can reply straight to me. Richie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File access- Me?,Machine?, Manual?
Paul, Thanks for the rapid response. Yes, I REALLY typed it, (<) Getting desperate! Trying anything. Yes I tried it without the < also. Sending the list? I am on one machine using the WIN98 O/S with Netscape. The list is on the MDLIN O/S on the same machine. One thing I will explain root,root was what I visibly seen, via the KDE module, nothing else. I can't gain access that way. Maybe this is the question I should ask, I installed using DrakX. Was/Is there something else I should have done directly after installation? After installation I did go in and set up another user. Possibly the incorrect way but it worked, and works. Now since you have responded I have done or discovered the following issues - WIN O/S - Netscape How you managed to respond I don't know as I received three "undeliverable" for the same message. I tried to print your message out, wouldn't. It did before and will off of the network. Modem is acting up. I rebooted into Linux O/S - All items on boot screen are OK except anti virus. Fine. Typed - ls -l /cat/p* ls:invalid option --/ (may have been a spacing issue.) ls -l /cat/p* no such file or directory (No issue - plain facts) ls -l / > list.txt ls:invalid option --/ Try 'ls --help' for more information. Laugh now - I typed - ls/options/help > I went into Konquereor via graphic module - In the home directory a file, List.txt. it was empty. As for the other issue root, root. In KDE graphic module, Bookmarks, History, Home, Network, Root Directory, Clicked open root directory, over half way down is a locked root. It is set to where I do have access, according to it's properties. No access via graphics. Please unless you want to you do not have to respond. I responded due to FYI's for you. Because of years of dealing with issues indirectly related to all of the above items I have to make some nasty decisions. All related to environmental variables. Several which I have no control over. No dual O/S? My gut told me it wouldn't work. It is, but the fine tuned items don't, or are messing with one another. It is strange because the item messing up was recognized as a problem with the Linux O/S. Does not work with Linux O/S and it is messing up in the WIN 98 system. I could install an additional modem on the dual O/S and have each dedicated, but that may lead to more issues. I do have five different systems. I mainly deal with only three so I do have several options. Thank you! - I really do appreciate the help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] filters in Kmail
On Friday 14 September 2001 00:13, you wrote: > Greetings all. I have my filters set up in Kmail so that anything with > "Newbie" in the subject line or in the "to" field should be sent to another > folder. This mostly works, but many posts from this slip through to my > inbox. Upon examination, I can see no reason why these misbehaving posts > are any different from others that are filtered. I am running LM8. Any > ideas? TIA, > Peace > stan I got around it by setting a couple of extra filters just to make sure. There is one option in KMail filters called , and you might want to set up another filter to check the header. Since I've added extra filters I'm catching about 98% of all the emails that should be going to my 'Newbie' folder. I wonder sometimes, since these emails are coming from all over the world, if some of the pattern matches in the filtering mechanism fail because the messages are using an incompatible character set. That's only a wild guess though. Richie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
> Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the > machine boots straight into Windows? Boot with a Windows floppy disk, the System boot disk that you can create from Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel is a good one to use. At the command prompt type: SYS C: You must have a file on your bootdisk called SYS.COM in order for this to work. Richie. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] StartX-problems
I have any problems with starting X-windows since I have restart my compute. I working with the Mandrake linux v.8.00. During starting my system again Linux fixed any bugs which were made by shutting the system down. Then starts the Xserver and breaking down. The system opens the console prompt. INIT switching to runlevel:3 INIT sending processes to TERM When I log in and type startx the system tells me this text above. ... successfully loaded NV driver RIVA GLX Version=1.2 -FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=2 failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server error: Could not oen default font 'fixed' ... pleas send the full server output, no just the last message. XIO:fatal 10 error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 event I don't know how I can start X-windows. Please for Help and sorry for my English! I have a intel440bx motherboard RIVA TNT2 graphic device Celeron 400 processor Seba Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
Adam, not two weeks ago I did exactly the same thing, and it was a weekend so I had no way of finding out how to fix it. you might want to wait for someone to confirm this answer, but you use a Windoze Boot disk get into the c drive ( dir c: and press enter) then fdisk /mbr this clears the Master Boot Record.biut like I said, wait for confirmation from someone else -Original Message- From: Adam Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 September 2001 12:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Grub problems I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which would load a text bootloader fine. However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I don't know how to get past it. Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the machine boots straight into Windows? Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
Boot with a win floppy and run fdisk /mbr (as so often we hand out winders info...) > I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which > would load a text bootloader fine. > > However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the > lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. > > Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I > don't know how to get past it. > > Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the > machine boots straight into Windows? > > Thanks > > Adam Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Original desktop colors
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:50:30 +0200, Frans Ketelaars wrote: >If you're using KDE: KDE Control Centre -> LookNFeel -> Desktop -> >Number of Desktops. There is a slider in the upper right corner that >controls the number of desktops. I change that back to 4 and every reboot it reverts to two. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Grub problems
I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which would load a text bootloader fine. However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I don't know how to get past it. Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the machine boots straight into Windows? Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list
Rog and everone else that cannot find the "delete" key. Please do not abandon this list, and do not ask to be killefiled or otherwise put your heads in the sand. world wide co-operation and "humanization" is almost the only way we have to prevent the types of tragedies we are living thru. I KNOW you all knew that at one point without even discussing it. true we do NEED to keep this focused on Mandrake Linux as our tool to have a chance to offer human kindness to individuals world wide. if we close ourselves off, we have a much more difficult time making others realize we are as human and caring as they are. That said, the delete key can be found on most keyboard right below the insert key, and to the right of the carriage return or enter. (you know, the one you use in M$winder$ [along with the Ctrl and Alt keys] to fix a freezeup). On Friday 14 September 2001 00:49, you had thoughts to the concept of: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:15:03 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: > >FYI, I'll take a look at the list tomorrow, and blacklist everyone who is > >still talking about politics there. You are still welcome to discuss what > >happened in one of these threads: > > Just curious - do you run this list? You've said twice how you'll > "blacklist" anyone still discussing it tomorrow as though you have the > ability to have us thrown off the list. If you are just talking about > killfiling people, please killfile me now, as I have no need for > discussion with you, about Linux or anything else. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512
I apologise if I wasn't clear enough, what I meant was. ATI themselves do not have actual Linux drivers, and on there web site state that they cannot (will not) provide technical support for there own hardware under Linux :( They give technical specs to Free to create drivers, which IMHO is not ideal as they would most likely keep some things back (the more advanced things) to protect company/technology secrets. IMHO the ideal situation (for all hardware) is that the manufacturers would create open source drivers for Linux themselves, or create close source ones that are always up to date (as NVIDIA is trying to do - but they appear to be a bit slow). Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: "Jeanette Russo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512 > ATI does provide technical assistance to the XFree86 project it is on their > web site > Jeanette > > > Original Message- >>From: "Robert MacLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Cc: >>Bcc: >>Subj: Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: > 1.0-1512 >>Type: IPM.Note >>Sent:Monday, September 10, 2001 2:27 AM >> >>IMHO you have 3 choices of graphic cards >>3dfx - bad idea as they no longer exist (so no more drivers) >>ATI - don't support Linux :( >>nVidia - provide closed drivers for Linux. >> >>and personally closed drivers are better than no drivers. >> >> >>Robert MacLean >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:40 AM >>Subject: Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: >>1.0-1512 >> >> >>> On Friday 07 September 2001 05:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: >>> >>> > I've got one word for nVidia's Linux support, and like most in >>the >>> > wintel-gang, it's DISINGENUOUS. They're just stringin us >>along, >>> > with poor, partially capable, closed source secret drivers. IMO, >>out'a >>> > fear of losing M$ cooperation. YMMV I'm sort's pi$$'d at myself >>for >>> > buyin nVidia crap, even tho I knew all the above beforehand. My >>only >>> > excuse is it's gettin harder and harder... not to. Billy's >>winning ;( >>> >>> That's just it. What is our alternative? Voodoo support is not >>what it was. >>> I had three machines (just sold one) with the voodoo3 in them, and >>they have >>> not had decent acceleration since 7.2. I tried all the the little >>tips and >>> tricks other say got theirs to work ok, but nope... games suck on >>those >>> machines. ATI? I read post after post of horror story with those. >>> >>> What could we get, even if money was no object (within the home user >>range)? >>> -s >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >- - >>-- >> >> >>> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >>> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >>> >> >> >> > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512
ATI does provide technical assistance to the XFree86 project it is on their web site Jeanette Original Message- >From: "Robert MacLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: >Bcc: >Subj: Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512 >Type: IPM.Note >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:27 AM > >IMHO you have 3 choices of graphic cards >3dfx - bad idea as they no longer exist (so no more drivers) >ATI - don't support Linux :( >nVidia - provide closed drivers for Linux. > >and personally closed drivers are better than no drivers. > > >Robert MacLean > >- Original Message - >From: "s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:40 AM >Subject: Re: [newbie] new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: >1.0-1512 > > >> On Friday 07 September 2001 05:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: >> >> > I've got one word for nVidia's Linux support, and like most in >the >> > wintel-gang, it's DISINGENUOUS. They're just stringin us >along, >> > with poor, partially capable, closed source secret drivers. IMO, >out'a >> > fear of losing M$ cooperation. YMMV I'm sort's pi$$'d at myself >for >> > buyin nVidia crap, even tho I knew all the above beforehand. My >only >> > excuse is it's gettin harder and harder... not to. Billy's >winning ;( >> >> That's just it. What is our alternative? Voodoo support is not >what it was. >> I had three machines (just sold one) with the voodoo3 in them, and >they have >> not had decent acceleration since 7.2. I tried all the the little >tips and >> tricks other say got theirs to work ok, but nope... games suck on >those >> machines. ATI? I read post after post of horror story with those. >> >> What could we get, even if money was no object (within the home user >range)? >> -s >> >> >> > > >-- >-- > > >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >> > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [Fwd: [List-A-Day.com's] Listaday Review: USAttacked]
I am sorry and my thoughts go to those affected by the WTC air plane crash but will the people who want to discuss the attacks please take their chat to another forum i.e. like the one below: Original Message Subject: [List-A-Day.com's] Listaday Review: USAttacked Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:11:00 -0500 From: List-A-Day.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://List-A-Day.com/, The Email List Review of The Day Mailing List Delivers You A Brief Review of The Very Best Email Lists on Earth! To Join, Send Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - ATTENTION EZINE PUBLISHERS AND LIST MODERATORS: Where do you turn when sticky issues arise with subscribers or list members? Don't bother Emily Post. Send your questions to Etiquette Specialist Tonya Chao. Join List-Etiquette mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 Today's List-A-Day Review: USAttacked We've just located a list created only hours ago, specifically to discuss the terrorist attacks on the U.S. USAttacked is an unmoderated discussion list owned by Rich Martin. Anyone is welcome to join the discussion, and everyone is encouraged to speak up. "Beginning at 12 noon EDT, the plush Westin Hotel in Bostons'Back Bay has been surrounded by various LEOs. It has been reported that police have taken at least one person into custody in relation to yesterdays' terrorist activity," posts one member. "The hotel is now being evacuated as bomb sniffing dogs have detected explosive material. It has been reported that there is an injured person at the Westin. It is not known if the arrestee and the injured are the same person. Also, LEOs are at a Newton, MA. hotel, terrorist related." To join this group immediately, send a blank message to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to this group, send your message to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Read this list online at http://www.topica.com/lists/USAttacked -Lisa Marie Heitman, Managing Editor -- Know of a list that should be featured here? Send details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We would love to hear from you! - ___ List-A-Day.com's Email List Reviews ___ If you find this information valuable, please pass it on to a friend. To Join List-A-Day List:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Join The Business Version: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Be Removed From List-A-Day: To Submit Your List For Review: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Advertise on List-A-Day: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Request Advertising Rates: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Do A Sponsorship Swap: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Visit The Website: http://List-A-Day.com/ List-A-Day is Powered by SparkLIST - The Business Email List Experts http://SparkLIST.com/ - FREE Quote: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISSN: 1525-7142 - Library Of Congress, Washington D.C., USA © Copyright 2001 by http://List-Universe.com/ Corporation - All Rights Reserved Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Can't find StarOffice in KDE menu
As a complete newbie... Does anything automatically link itself into the menus? I've installed a number of things off the LM CD and never got links to them... Is linking part of the RPM standard? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Kasky Sent: 14 September 2001 01:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't find StarOffice in KDE menu I even reported this little bug to Star and never heard anything back... I just manually created the links. Ed At 07:07 PM 9/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I installed StarOffice.. and it tells me it is installed into the KDE menu. I >restarted my KDE. But it's still not in the KDE menu. How can I make it >appear? > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
