[newbie] Faxing form staroffice

2001-10-03 Thread belcoop

How do I fax from staroffice or from Koffice? 

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Fwd: Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems

2001-10-03 Thread Joseph Braddock


On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:06 pm, you wrote:
> Winmodems were produced to accomplish 2 things:
>
> 1) Reduce the cost of computers by reducing the cost of the components.
> Winmodems are much less expensive to produce since they lack the
> circuitry of a real modem. It's basically just a interface to a phone
> jack. The OS then has to act as the modem, putting asignificant load on
> the CPU.
> Yes, the CPU can usually bear the load of doing the work the Modem is
> supposed to. And if you're only interested in running games, and surfing
> the net, then you won't notice this, and probably don't need Linux
> anyway. Personally, I use my Linux boxes for other things, and I want
> the hardware to do what it's supposed to, so that my CPU can do what
> "it's" supposed to.

That's not true.  Winmodems came out at the same time as a number of digital
signal processing units.  It was for cost savings because a given DSP with
the proper software could be a modem, soundcard, game controller or whatever.
It is true that DSP devices use the CPU and that's why they weren't practical
until high speed processors came out (actually 486).  Think back to when
modems went from 28.8 to 33.6 to 56K in about 12 months.  For 56K, there were
competing standards.  Some modems had flash roms that could be updated, but
most didn't (as a side, if a modem uses software onboard to change the way it
works, isn't it still a software modem?).  Updating flash roms was not
something most users wanted to do, nor was flash ram cheap.  DSP devices
sought to solve that problem.  No longer would you need to worry about modem
standards and features changing.  Just download the latest driver and you
were ready to go.

As for speed degragation, lets be real.  An older Pentium runs at 166MHZ the
most my modem (hard or soft) can do is 56K.  The CPU utilization should be
minimal (even the drivers have a small footprint).

Nobody seems to slam ethernet cards because they have to run Samba to talk to
a Windows network.  Wouldn't the connection be faster if the ethernet card
was hardwired for Samba?

> 2) To marry you to Windows.
> Once you're running Win(crap) hardware, you "can't" defect, and run an
> alternative OS. Usually the cost & inconvenience of upgrading that $100
> speed demon box to a real computer is more than the average user will
> bear. Thus cementing their aligence to M$. Afterall, why change when
> M$(crap) is so cheap?!? Why should I spend more on hardware just to run
> Linux...

I bet if you did a survey, there are a lot more Linux boxes running on that
"cheap" hardware than on 2GHZ boxes.

> If you want to run a real OS, you'll need real hardware. Haven't you
> wondered why a "workstation class" machine is so much more expensive?
> It's build to last, with quality parts. The bargain basement "Multimedia
> Windows" desktop machines just don't have that quality. They're the ones
> that cause so many people, so many "odd" problems.

I always thought that a "workstation class" machine is so much more expensive
because of proprietary parts and lack of competition, not because of the
quality.

The original IBM PC/XT was something like $4,000.  An average midrange PC
today is in the $1,000 to $2,000 range.  Using your reasoning, the XT is the
better hardware.


For the record, the purpose of my post was not to say that everyone should
embrace soft modems.  The tendency on the list has been to slam them outright
instead of offering support to the person requesting help.  That does a
disservice to the person asking the questions, discourages them from seeking
further help from this forum and ultimately discourages trying linux as an
alternative.

For the benefit of those who pay per minute for internet access and those
with slow connections, I do think it is time to let this topic die off.
Let's just agree to disagree.

Joe

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[newbie] Apache user dir cgi not working

2001-10-03 Thread L.V.Gandhi

I have gone through the FAQ for apache.
As per the FAQ for user dir cgi, I have used the second alternative. My 
/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file relevent portion is as follows.

UserDir public_html
 
#
# Control access to UserDir directories.  The following is an example
# for a site where these directories are restricted to read-only.
#

#AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec
#
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
#
#
#Order deny,allow
#Deny from all
#

 
#As per FAQ to use cgi-bin made by me on 2/10/2001

 Options ExecCGI
 SetHandler cgi-script


Still I get the following error.
 [client 127.0.0.1] Premature end of script headers: 
/home/lvgandhi/public_html/cgi-bin/addfile.pl.
 But the same script and concerned files work in /var/www/cgi-bin folder.
folder permissions are 755 for /home/lvgandhi and 775 for public_html and 
public_html/cgi-bin under /home/lvgandhi.
Where I am going wrong?
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Re: [newbie] soundrecording

2001-10-03 Thread L.V.Gandhi

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 08:25 pm, Marcia wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have been trying to install krecord but it requires the qt libraries
> which I supposedly have, but when I go through compiling it says there are
> no header files for qt. Would anyone know what I am missing when it comes
> to qt and how to get it? Thanks for your help.

If you have installed sox package you can use rec command for recording. I 
have a script for recording as follows.
#!/bin/bash
rec -d /dev/dsp -c 2 -v 5 --format=s --size=w -r 44100 song$1.wav
I have named it songrec. When a song comes in xawtv I use $songrec  1.
As soon song is over, I pressctrl+c. I get song1.wav. However it is better to 
see the recording poit in a mixture either mike or line.
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Re: [newbie] MS vs GM

2001-10-03 Thread shane

hey i re-cog-anize that sig.  :)

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 16:29, skinky spoke unto the masses thusly:
> On Thursday 04 October 2001 10:05, Jon Doe wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:20 pm, you wrote:
> > > Help Microsoft stamp out software piracy: give Linux to a friend
> > > today...
> >
> > May I use your signature? Thats the best thing I've heard all
> > week...lol.
>
> Yep. And any other sigs in the future if you like.
> Cheers

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[newbie] Does computer with dual PIII 700MHz good enough to run Web & mail server?

2001-10-03 Thread Tuan Tran

Can any one tell me if I can use dual PIII 700MHz to run web, mail &
intranet file server? How fast is it? My cable company provides 2MB
download and 380Kps upload. Is it good enough to run web server with
about 50 people access at a same time?
Thank you
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Re: [newbie] Kernel Panic:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05 (resend)

2001-10-03 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi,

Thanks for your further advice.

Unfortunately I still encountered the same problem after repeated trials.

My partition table as follows

Native partition for /boot5 MB
Swap260 MB (2 x 128 MB RAM)
rest for root partition

I even tried installing Mandrake 7.2 first.  After it works successfully, 
then I installed/upgrade it to Mandrake 8.0  But I still could not get the 
later to work.  At re-start following warning signal prompts ;

Kernel Panic:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05

Would it be the bug problem of my installer - Mandrake 8.0 ? ? ?

Best Regards
Stephen Liu


At 11:30 AM 10/2/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear Sir Stephen Lui
>
>before adding a "/" linux native root partition just add first a native 
>partition
>"/boot" with 5MB needed then after press add again for the swap partion 
>your swap
>partion must be 2x your memory so for example you have 64mB memory your swap
>partion must be at least 128MB. then add your "/" root pation then add an
>asterisk to Grow to fill this disk this will install your all your linux 
>program
>in there
>
>
>Thanks and Good Luck!
>
>Respectfully
>AOL
>www.aolsystems.com
>
>Stephen Liu wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your response and advice.
> >
> > I only have 2 partitions in my hard disc, the native and the swap.
> > I am sure I have added a mount point " / " to the native partition.
> >
> > >Pls try this pls add a linux native with mount point
> > >/boot
> > >so you can divide your boot partition to your original mount point
> > >/
> >
> > Kindly explain how to add " /boot " to the native partition.  Is it to add
> > a boot partition on the hard disc, making 3 partitions, boot, native and
> > swap and thereafter adding a mount point " / " to the boot partition ?  How
> > about the native partition whether a mount point " / " is still necessary ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > B.Regards
> > Stephen Liu
> >
> > >which you originaly configured so it will not conflivt with your existing
> > >linux native.
> > >then dont forget to add a swap partition.
> > >I hope my little knowledge on this can help you.
> > >
> > >
> > >Respectfully
> > >AOL
> > >www.aolsystems.com
> > >"The Technology Specialist"
> > >Stephen Liu wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all people,
> > > >
> > > > I installed Mandrake 8.0 to a new hard disk and encountered following
> > > > problem when restarting the computer after installation 
> completed.  There
> > > > was no other Operating System sharing the hard disk.
> > > >
> > > > Class of installation :  Recommended
> > > >
> > > > When restarting the computer following error indicated
> > > >
> > > > VFS : cannot open root device "305" or 03:05.
> > > > Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> > > > Kernel Panic : VFS unable to mount root fs on 03:50
> > > >
> > > > I did try several times to restart the computer and also reinstall the
> > > > software but with no improvement.
> > > >
> > > > Kindly help !!!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Stephen Liu




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Re: [newbie] Kernel Panic:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05

2001-10-03 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi,

Thanks for your further advice.

Unfortunately I still encountered the same problem after repeated trials.

My partition table as follows

Native partition for /boot5 MB
Swap260 MB (2 x 128 MB RAM)
rest for root partition

I even tried installing Mandrake 7.2 first.  After it works successfully, 
then I installed/upgrade it to Mandrake 8.0  But I still could not get the 
later to work.  At re-start following warning signal prompts ;

Kernel Panic:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05

Would it be the bug problem of my installer - Mandrake 8.0 ? ? ?

Best Regards
Stephen Liu


At 11:30 AM 10/2/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear Sir Stephen Lui
>
>before adding a "/" linux native root partition just add first a native 
>partition
>"/boot" with 5MB needed then after press add again for the swap partion 
>your swap
>partion must be 2x your memory so for example you have 64mB memory your swap
>partion must be at least 128MB. then add your "/" root pation then add an
>asterisk to Grow to fill this disk this will install your all your linux 
>program
>in there
>
>
>Thanks and Good Luck!
>
>Respectfully
>AOL
>www.aolsystems.com
>
>Stephen Liu wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your response and advice.
> >
> > I only have 2 partitions in my hard disc, the native and the swap.
> > I am sure I have added a mount point " / " to the native partition.
> >
> > >Pls try this pls add a linux native with mount point
> > >/boot
> > >so you can divide your boot partition to your original mount point
> > >/
> >
> > Kindly explain how to add " /boot " to the native partition.  Is it to add
> > a boot partition on the hard disc, making 3 partitions, boot, native and
> > swap and thereafter adding a mount point " / " to the boot partition ?  How
> > about the native partition whether a mount point " / " is still necessary ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > B.Regards
> > Stephen Liu
> >
> > >which you originaly configured so it will not conflivt with your existing
> > >linux native.
> > >then dont forget to add a swap partition.
> > >I hope my little knowledge on this can help you.
> > >
> > >
> > >Respectfully
> > >AOL
> > >www.aolsystems.com
> > >"The Technology Specialist"
> > >Stephen Liu wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all people,
> > > >
> > > > I installed Mandrake 8.0 to a new hard disk and encountered following
> > > > problem when restarting the computer after installation 
> completed.  There
> > > > was no other Operating System sharing the hard disk.
> > > >
> > > > Class of installation :  Recommended
> > > >
> > > > When restarting the computer following error indicated
> > > >
> > > > VFS : cannot open root device "305" or 03:05.
> > > > Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> > > > Kernel Panic : VFS unable to mount root fs on 03:50
> > > >
> > > > I did try several times to restart the computer and also reinstall the
> > > > software but with no improvement.
> > > >
> > > > Kindly help !!!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Stephen Liu




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RE: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems

2001-10-03 Thread Rafael Lepra

OK, I could understand the point about how bad winmodems are. But, I can
proudly say that my winmodem is working really fine with Mandrake 8.0. It is
a Motorola SM56. Probably the CPU is working harder but it is its duty ;-),
after all I bought an Athlon 700 to be plenty of computational power :-).

By the way, I want to say that Linux Mandrake is a wonderfull OS, and it is
the first distribution that started fighting Windows in its own territory:
"being user frendly". My humble opinion is that if Linux wants to grow up as
a real alternative OS, it has to be user friendly. I mean that people in
general want a OS that "melts" with the hardware without work, cause they
want the computer just like a tool in order to connect to internet, play a
game, edit documents, etc. And I have to accept that Microsoft understood
that need and acted accordingly. Of course I understand too, that Windows is
very unstable, that is hardware greedy, that it might be considered like a
pseudo OS, etc. but people paradojically is happy with it :-(.

I think it is because it is easy to install. I think that if Linux does not
support software modems, it is limiting its potential market and if you
don't have market you don't have power to lure the hardware companies in
order to support your operative system. I think it is a vicious circle and I
think Linux has to give the first step in order to break it. Mandrake has
done it, making an almost perfect and easy way to recognize hardware.

Summing up, software modems are not real modems, but they are cheap and they
are very common (in fact almost all PCI modems are software modems), a lot
of people have them, and if trying Linux means to throw it away many of them
quit trying Linux, and that is not good for Linux itself.

Regards,

Rafael Lepra


-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Ric
Enviado el: miércoles, 03 de octubre de 2001 17:07
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems




Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> etharp wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>Joethe real winmodem problem is better explained
>>>below by the two selected quotes from Rick Moen's
>>>linuxmafia.com website:
>>>
>>>http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/
>>>


The link is well worth a vist.
Also, to put this in a better light for those that don't get the point
of winmodems (IE: Can't understand why they need to buy a "real" modem)

In short (I hate typing long winded explanations).
Winmodems were produced to accomplish 2 things:

1) Reduce the cost of computers by reducing the cost of the components.
Winmodems are much less expensive to produce since they lack the
circuitry of a real modem. It's basically just a interface to a phone
jack. The OS then has to act as the modem, putting asignificant load on
the CPU.
Yes, the CPU can usually bear the load of doing the work the Modem is
supposed to. And if you're only interested in running games, and surfing
the net, then you won't notice this, and probably don't need Linux
anyway. Personally, I use my Linux boxes for other things, and I want
the hardware to do what it's supposed to, so that my CPU can do what
"it's" supposed to.

2) To marry you to Windows.
Once you're running Win(crap) hardware, you "can't" defect, and run an
alternative OS. Usually the cost & inconvenience of upgrading that $100
speed demon box to a real computer is more than the average user will
bear. Thus cementing their aligence to M$. Afterall, why change when
M$(crap) is so cheap?!? Why should I spend more on hardware just to run
Linux...

If you want to run a real OS, you'll need real hardware. Haven't you
wondered why a "workstation class" machine is so much more expensive?
It's build to last, with quality parts. The bargain basement "Multimedia
Windows" desktop machines just don't have that quality. They're the ones
that cause so many people, so many "odd" problems.

You gets whats you pays for.
Ok, enough of my rant.

Ric

JHMO


>>
>
> You're quite welcome. :)
>
>
>><'nother snip>
>>
>>>Theoretically, programmers could write substitute
>>>"engine" software for non-MS-Windows operating systems.
>>>This would have to be done separately for each OS and for
>>>each modem-type crippled in some distinctive way.
>>>Further, it would entail reverse-engineering each such
>>>design's programming interface, without cooperation from
>>>manufacturers who classify this as proprietary
>>>information. In any event, programmers seem highly
>>>unlikely to bother, because they find it far easier to
>>>buy real modems, instead.
>>>
>>not to mention a jail term in the USA due to the DCMA.
>>
>
> True, that's a definate possibility, and I'm somewhat
> surprised that Rick hasn't yet updated the paragraph to
> reflect that danger. :)
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RE: [newbie] Hello Everyone!!

2001-10-03 Thread Mark Wilson

   Hello List..
I am a new to Mandrake.. My name is Mark, and I have been using Linux for 
about 6 months.. I have loaded it on one machine and I am currently loading 
it on my other machine, as soon as I get my new Motherboard and processor.. 
I have been using Redhat Linux 6.2 for about 9 months now.. This is what we 
use at work.. I am a Systems Support analyst for a company, in Richmond VA, 
and I am sure not the most experienced Linux user out there, but I hope i 
will be able to help out someone, and vice versa..
  I know alot of you might have noticed that my email address is a hotmail 
account and I have had that address for Spam and junk.. I did not want to 
use my other accounts until I got on the list.. So I already know.. I HATE 
MS, and all of there products.. You dont have to scream what is he 
thinking?? Using Bill Gates products..  LOL  I do have to support them at 
work.. I guess that is why I am good with Windows because i always fix Win 
stuff but I dont ever get to fix Linux stuff since it never breaks..  I 
guess that is why I am not the best Linux user yet... LOL Well anyway I just 
thought I would introduce myself and say HI!! Im sorry this is so long...
I am sure I will have some issues when I load my new PC in the next week or 
two.. LOL
 Cya  Mark

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Re: [newbie] MS vs GM

2001-10-03 Thread skinky

On Thursday 04 October 2001 12:08, Jon Doe wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 October 2001 07:29 pm, you wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 October 2001 10:05, Jon Doe wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:20 pm, you wrote:
> > > > Help Microsoft stamp out software piracy: give Linux to a friend
> > > > today...
> > >
> > > May I use your signature? Thats the best thing I've heard all
> > > week...lol.
> >
> > Yep. And any other sigs in the future if you like.
> > Cheers
>
> Thanks a million! Did you make it up? Or did you find it also? I would
> like to give credit to the author. If it was you, what would you like as
> name?
>
> Help Microsoft stamp out software piracy: give Linux to a friend
> today... --Your Name


Wasn't me - I didn't make it up.  I got it from one of the other mailing 
lists.

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RE: [newbie] Swap & Mempry

2001-10-03 Thread Navin Daryanani

I don't want to sway you away from this thread but I have been wondering
about usage of linux memory for some time - I mean from the programming
point of view.

>Excess RAM is not wasted in Linux, since it uses the surplus for hard drive
caching.

This is a pleasing thing to hear - can you please give any web page
reference where I can read more on internals - I have tried some books
available in our small library but they don't talk about things from the
programmer's or the 'system's' point of view.

regards
navin





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Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 4:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Yuriy Temnyuk
Subject: Re: [newbie] Swap & Mempry


On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:28:30 +0300, "Yuriy Temnyuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have 256 Mb phisical memory, what size of Swap I must create?
>
> Thank,
> Yuriy

The general rule-of-thumb is to have a swap size of 2x RAM. However, you
typically won't gain much by having over 200MB of swap. If you need to use
this
much swap, your hard drive would be thrashing like crazy and your system
would
slow to a crawl. In this case, you should really look into buying more RAM
(assuming that the problem hasn't been caused by buggy software). Excess RAM
is
not wasted in Linux, since it uses the surplus for hard drive caching.

Of course, there are exceptions. For example, servers often require large
volumes of swap space, as do serious software/graphical/multimedia
development
workstations. For the average desktop system, however, a maximum of 200MB is
plenty.

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your computer with the basic commands that it needs to suddenly, with no
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Re: [newbie] 2.4.10 kernel

2001-10-03 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 07:28 pm, Roger Sherman wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >I do 'rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.10-1mdk.i586.rpm' in a term after
> > su'ing to root.  This installs the new kernel 'alongside' your
> > other kernel(s). A good precaution to take is to visit /boot and
> > /etc/lilo.conf to see that proper links and conf (lilo)
> > modifications were made.  In the case of this kernel (2.4.10-1mdk)
> > they were, but I ran 'lilo' anyhow just to make sure. Reboot and
> > choose the new kernel that easy ;)
>
> Thanks, Tom! Now, would I be able to try that with my 7.2
> installation, or would that be asking for trouble?

   I dunno. I upgraded an 8.1 install. You might need to ask yourself 
some of the questions here
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/kupgrade.html

  My main reason is (o   You want to get that Unix feeling)  I'm an 
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[newbie] no mas email

2001-10-03 Thread Hispanicbaptist
no me dado resultado nada como lo hago ya no se que hacer no quiero mas email


Re: [newbie] 2.4.10 kernel

2001-10-03 Thread Roger Sherman

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Wednesday 03 October 2001 06:19 pm, Roger Sherman wrote:
>
> > When you install the ready made, you go through the compilation
> > process? Or is it like installing an RPM?
> >> peace,>> Rog
>
>I do 'rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.10-1mdk.i586.rpm' in a term after su'ing
> to root.  This installs the new kernel 'alongside' your other kernel(s).
> A good precaution to take is to visit /boot and /etc/lilo.conf to see
> that proper links and conf (lilo) modifications were made.  In the case
> of this kernel (2.4.10-1mdk) they were, but I ran 'lilo' anyhow just to
> make sure. Reboot and choose the new kernel that easy ;)


Thanks, Tom! Now, would I be able to try that with my 7.2 installation, or
would that be asking for trouble?


>
>My usual practice is not to fool with new kernels til they reach
> about -10mdk.  BUT this time, since 2.4.9 was skipped, and cooker ML
> traffic seemed to indicate their efforts were for a solid 2.4.10, I
> decided to try their first effort.  I was pleasantly surprised ;)
> Great job Mandrake !
>
> You only need the source and header rpms and/or compile your own if
> you have special needs, or if you wantonly install closed source secret
> insecure binaries  ... like nVidia drivers, Star Office, VMware,
> RealPlayer, Linmodem B$ and other Win-hardare kludges, etc. Then you
> might be UNpleasantly surprised by newer kernels, ready made or
> compiled  ;~>>
>


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Re: [newbie] how to add myself in somthing group?

2001-10-03 Thread D.

I believe that you want to do the su  then
do aduser  audio
Hope that helps
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> 
> In what groups i must add myself for work pr0perly
> with my
> cd-rom,soundcard+mixer, dial-up. How to do it?
>   
> i have mandrake 7.0 russian edition on 4 cd.
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> 
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Re: [newbie] Speed up bandwidth for Apache?

2001-10-03 Thread Manuel Drake

Totally correct, as do the rates that you describe, except it's kBps on
both.  My cable, and I'll just go out on a limb and guess you have cable,
is nearly exactly that rate down, but only 35KB/s up, and I hate it.

I understand that there are several cracks available to beat this, but
I've not been too excited about beating up my cable modem.  If it ain't
broke... don't fix it :)

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, shane wrote:

> your download rate and their download rate (which is more your _up_load rate)
> may be very different.  many isp's limit upload.
>
> On Wednesday 03 October 2001 14:58, Jon Doe spoke unto the masses thusly:
> >
> > I only have 3 users that do any downloading. One is on a dial up
> > connection, I realize he is slow but that is his problem not my server. The
> > other have cable and say they can only ever get 45 kbps. I just thought
> > that was kinda slow when I can get downloads at 215kbps. Not sure if kbps
> > is the correct term, but I think you understand what I mean.
> > Serving webpages are totally new to me so I don't know if that is normal or
> > not.
>
> --
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> damn near everything." -me
>
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Re: [newbie] 2.4.10 kernel

2001-10-03 Thread Roger Sherman

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> ... is on the cooker mirrors today.  I've been kickin it around for a
> few hours and can report,
>
> o   it's probly gonna need an updated lm_utils to get sensors workin
> o   supermount is still gone missin (altho there's a supermount module)
> I tried '-i enable', and some fstab edits, still no go.
>
>Other than that, no problems, I swear it makes my system just a
> touch snappier ;>kernel-2.4.10-1mdk
>
>  I installed the ready made, but source and headers are available.
>

When you install the ready made, you go through the compilation process?
Or is it like installing an RPM?

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[newbie] DHCP and 8.1

2001-10-03 Thread Roger Sherman

I installed 8.1 a couple days ago, and it has a major advantage over 7.2
(what I've been using since it came out) - I finally have sound. And, a
nice little bonus, it looks great!

One problem, however, and a rather major one at that. As with every
version released after 7.2, from the 8.0 betas on, I haven't been able to
get online. Now, I have a cable modem, using Optimum Online (Cablevision),
I use DHCP, which always tells me it couldn't find an IP # when I boot
into 8.1. I have a 3com 3c900B-TPO nic card, which uses the 3c59x kernel
module. 8.1 detected it just fine, and uses the correct module, so I know
thats not the problem.

With 7.2, when I installed that (each and every time), it asked me what my
host name is, and what my proxy setting are; both boxes I leave blank, and
it works like a charm, every time. With 8.1, I tried it like that, and I
also tried putting in what I believe is my host name, dyn.optonline.net.
All that accomplished was having my terminal showing a prompt that said

[rog@dyn rog]

I didn't do anything with the proxy settings, as I don't believe I have
any. Oh, and in the past, I figured out my (then) current IP # (it only
changes on me once a week or so), and tried to set my box up like a static
IP, but that didn't work either.

So there you have it. Can anyone help? I really want to get 8.1 happening,
as I have realized how much I miss being able to play my ogg files and
CDs...Any more info needed, just ask - I'm willing to do pretty much
whatever I have to to get it happening this time...


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Re: [newbie] Speed up bandwidth for Apache?

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Doe

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 12:43 pm, you wrote:
> Pay for more bandwidth.
>
> Are you sure you have a problem though? How many concurrent hits do you get
> on your site - maybe you'd benefit from increasing the number of server
> threads running.

I only have 3 users that do any downloading. One is on a dial up connection, 
I realize he is slow but that is his problem not my server. The other have 
cable and say they can only ever get 45 kbps. I just thought that was kinda 
slow when I can get downloads at 215kbps. Not sure if kbps is the correct 
term, but I think you understand what I mean.
Serving webpages are totally new to me so I don't know if that is normal or 
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[newbie] how to add myself in somthing group?

2001-10-03 Thread user

Hello people,

In what groups i must add myself for work pr0perly with my
cd-rom,soundcard+mixer, dial-up. How to do it?
  
i have mandrake 7.0 russian edition on 4 cd.
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[newbie] rpmdrake & cooker font

2001-10-03 Thread Joan Tur

I get an error when trying to add a cooker source (i've tryed with some of 
them).  It downloads a 12'4Gb file and then fails:

-
12350K .. .. .. .. .. 99%   0:01 26.8K
12400K .. .. ..  100%   0:00 28.3K

22:10:00 (26.56 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz' guardado 
[12729055]

nada escrito en el archivo de lista para "¨u uÀV ˆæ
"
no se puede actualizar soporte "¨u uÀV ˆæ
"
urpmi.addmedia returns with this value: 2
[root@quinipc quini]#
-

That's spanish... could be translated as "nothing written in the list archive 
for...
Soporte "¨u uÀV ˆæ" cannot be freshed...

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[newbie] Kmail and attached emails

2001-10-03 Thread Joan Tur

Hallo!

I'm using kmail under 8.1.  When i receive an email that's got another  
another email attached i can see it by clicking on it.

That opens the email in a new window... what should i do to, for instance, 
print it??

Thanks!  ;)
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Re: [newbie] MS vs GM

2001-10-03 Thread shane

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 12:20, skinky spoke unto the masses thusly:
>
> At a computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer
> industry with the auto industry and stated:

i prefer:

VMS is like a Soviet railroad train.  It's basically industrial-strength, but
when you look at it closely, everything's a little more shabby than you might
like.  It gets the job done, but there's no grace to it.

The Mac operating system is like the monorail at Disney World.  It's kind of
spectacular and fun, but it doesn't go much of anywhere. Still, the kids like
it.

Windows is like the maritime transit system in an impoverished country. The
ferryboats are dangerous as hell, offer no protection from the weather and 
leak like sieves.  Every monsoon season a couple of them capsize and drown 
all the passengers, but people still line up for them and crowd aboard.

Linux is like a hovercraft from hell in kit form.  You get it for nearly free,
spend days trying to build it, fail a few times, make basic building mistakes,
give up, and go find some instructions which point out a button you never
noticed before.  You push it, and a moment later you have a form of
transportation that goes nearly anywhere, and has places to add on parts so 
you can do nearly anything.  Yet 90% of the people who try it give up before 
they get it put together.

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Re: [newbie] attachments in every message??

2001-10-03 Thread etharp

yep you are correct it was discussed befor, and it is new since sometime 
after 8.0 came out


On Wednesday 03 October 2001 14:45, you had thoughts to the concept of:
> I recently signed back up to the expert and newbie lists
> for mandrake in anticipation of the new 8.1 release and
> find that something is different with the list.
> It may have been discussed before but now EVERY message
> I have gotten today has had a 'message.footer' file attached
> to it.  Is this normal??
>
> --
> Carl Lafferty
> Sys Admin
> Floyd County Public Library
> www.fclib.org


Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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Re: [newbie] Install from ISOs

2001-10-03 Thread Ralph Slooten

Iso's are cd images, and need to be burned to CD. I don't know what cd
program you use, but it needs to "import" this image and burn it, giving
you a normal CD, and not just 1 big file.

Greetings

Ralph

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Hanno Boeck wrote:

> How can I install Mandrake from ISO-files? If I boot from the
> HD-Install-Disk, I can only choose one ISO-file. The Installation-Program
> shows an error-message, if it tries to install files from cd2 or cd3.
>
>
>

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Re: [newbie] Need Libwrap.a

2001-10-03 Thread meta4

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 11:14 you wrote:
> 
> Where can I find the latest version of libwrap.a?  I thought I install all
> the library files from my Mandrake 8 package...but I don't have libwrap.a.
> I'm installing the latest version of shh (2.9.9) and I need it.  TIA.
> 
> Peter Marchetti
> Media Visions, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

rpmfind

http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libwrap.a

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Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems

2001-10-03 Thread Ric



Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> etharp wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>>Joethe real winmodem problem is better explained
>>>below by the two selected quotes from Rick Moen's
>>>linuxmafia.com website:
>>>
>>>http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/
>>>


The link is well worth a vist.
Also, to put this in a better light for those that don't get the point 
of winmodems (IE: Can't understand why they need to buy a "real" modem)

In short (I hate typing long winded explanations).
Winmodems were produced to accomplish 2 things:

1) Reduce the cost of computers by reducing the cost of the components. 
Winmodems are much less expensive to produce since they lack the 
circuitry of a real modem. It's basically just a interface to a phone 
jack. The OS then has to act as the modem, putting asignificant load on 
the CPU.
Yes, the CPU can usually bear the load of doing the work the Modem is 
supposed to. And if you're only interested in running games, and surfing 
the net, then you won't notice this, and probably don't need Linux 
anyway. Personally, I use my Linux boxes for other things, and I want 
the hardware to do what it's supposed to, so that my CPU can do what 
"it's" supposed to.

2) To marry you to Windows.
Once you're running Win(crap) hardware, you "can't" defect, and run an 
alternative OS. Usually the cost & inconvenience of upgrading that $100 
speed demon box to a real computer is more than the average user will 
bear. Thus cementing their aligence to M$. Afterall, why change when 
M$(crap) is so cheap?!? Why should I spend more on hardware just to run 
Linux...

If you want to run a real OS, you'll need real hardware. Haven't you 
wondered why a "workstation class" machine is so much more expensive? 
It's build to last, with quality parts. The bargain basement "Multimedia 
Windows" desktop machines just don't have that quality. They're the ones 
that cause so many people, so many "odd" problems.

You gets whats you pays for.
Ok, enough of my rant.

Ric

JHMO


>>
> 
> You're quite welcome. :)
> 
> 
>><'nother snip>
>>
>>>Theoretically, programmers could write substitute
>>>"engine" software for non-MS-Windows operating systems.
>>>This would have to be done separately for each OS and for
>>>each modem-type crippled in some distinctive way.
>>>Further, it would entail reverse-engineering each such
>>>design's programming interface, without cooperation from
>>>manufacturers who classify this as proprietary
>>>information. In any event, programmers seem highly
>>>unlikely to bother, because they find it far easier to
>>>buy real modems, instead.
>>>
>>not to mention a jail term in the USA due to the DCMA.
>>
> 
> True, that's a definate possibility, and I'm somewhat 
> surprised that Rick hasn't yet updated the paragraph to 
> reflect that danger. :)
> 
> 
> 
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> message.footer
> 
> Content-Type:
> 
> text/plain
> Content-Encoding:
> 
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[newbie] su not found?

2001-10-03 Thread Christian Dysthe

Hi,

I am running Mandrake 8.0 but I have KDE 2.2.1 running. When I right click on 
the time in the KDE panel and select "Adjust Time and Date" I am asked to put 
in the root password. But when I do I get the message: "The program su is not 
found. Make sure your path is set correctly". I know that su is there since I 
use it all the time for other root needing tasks. It seems that it is only 
KDE that doesn't find it. What might be wrong?

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RE: [newbie] MS vs GM

2001-10-03 Thread Franki

not to forget, (I added a few more)

3 crashes per day,

a car that had doors that won't lock all the time, or will mysteriously
unlock when a thief approaches..
and it can be tricked into unlocking other GM cars anywhere around it.

a car that only permits GM approved passangers, if anyone else gets in, it
crashes.

a car that displays adds for mags and car stuff (approved GM partners) on
the heads up display, and if you try to stop it, it crashes.

a car that can potentially tell GM everywhere you go and who with.

a car that needs to be popped back to GM once a week to get that weeks flaws
sorted out.


I could think of more, but thats enough isn't it???


rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of skinky
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2001 3:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] MS vs GM


OT, I know, but thought someone might enjoy a wee bit of amusement:

At a computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer
industry with the auto industry and stated:

"If GM had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we
would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon.

In response to Bill's comments, General Motors should have issued a press
release stating: "If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would
all be driving cars with the following characteristics: (PART II)

8. New seats would force everyone to have the same sized butt.

9. The airbag system would ask "are you SURE?" before deploying.

10. Occasionally, for no ! ! reason whatsoever, your car would lock you
out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door
handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.

11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of Rand
McNally Road maps (now a GM subsidiary), even though they neither need nor
want them. Attempting to delete this option would immediately cause the
car's performance to diminish by 50% or more. Moreover, GM would become a
target for investigation by the Justice Dept.

12. Every time GM introduced a new car, car buyers would have to learn to
drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the
same manner as the old car.

13. You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off.

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Re: [newbie] Creative soundblaster live

2001-10-03 Thread michael

On Tuesday 02 October 2001 10:36 am, you wrote:
> I wouldn't of thought so Mike - what would bash do with a
> line like
>
> setenv SOURCE /usr/local/src
>
> when it was expecting something like
>
> SOURCE=/usr/local/src ; export SOURCE
>
> I suspect you'd break your shell and then have to repair
> it pretty quickly!
>
> Reminds me of the time one of my sysprogs changed the
> logon procedure on an MVS mainframe, right before it was
> rebooted (IPL'd). Of course, he'd made a typo, and hadn't
> tested it. Machine came back up and no-one could log in
> because the login proc now didn't work!
>
> He had to make a very embarrassed phonecall to IBM to get
> an engineer out and fix the typo!
>
> (I found it hilarious, but it was just as well it was on
> a Friday night with no online day on the Saturday, so we
> had plenty of time to effect a repair).
steve-
tx for the clear but humorous way of setting my newbie-mind 
straight...i should have just kept lurking on this one!
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[newbie] I need the libwrap.a file.

2001-10-03 Thread Peter Marchetti

I thought I installed all the lib files offered on my ML8.0 PP distro, but I
guess not.  Anyone know where I can find them?

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Re: [newbie] attachments in every message??

2001-10-03 Thread Tim Holmes

Yeah, they just started this, what... a month ago!  It's a bit annoying, but
I know nothing's going to be done about it any time soon.

I'm on like 10 lists, and the Mandrake ones are the only ones that are doing
this.
tdh
 
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 | for mandrake in anticipation of the new 8.1 release and 
 | find that something is different with the list.
 | It may have been discussed before but now EVERY message
 | I have gotten today has had a 'message.footer' file attached
 | to it.  Is this normal??
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RE: [newbie] attachments in every message??

2001-10-03 Thread Manuel Drake

procmail mailing list doesn't, and can most likely tell you how to remove
it :)

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Mark Johnson wrote:

> yup. it sucks don't it...
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Carl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:46 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [newbie] attachments in every message??
> >
> >
> > I recently signed back up to the expert and newbie lists
> > for mandrake in anticipation of the new 8.1 release and
> > find that something is different with the list.
> > It may have been discussed before but now EVERY message
> > I have gotten today has had a 'message.footer' file attached
> > to it.  Is this normal??
> >
> > --
> > Carl Lafferty
> > Sys Admin
> > Floyd County Public Library
> > www.fclib.org
> >
> >
>
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RE: [newbie] attachments in every message??

2001-10-03 Thread Mark Johnson

yup. it sucks don't it...

> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] attachments in every message??
> 
> 
> I recently signed back up to the expert and newbie lists 
> for mandrake in anticipation of the new 8.1 release and 
> find that something is different with the list.
> It may have been discussed before but now EVERY message
> I have gotten today has had a 'message.footer' file attached
> to it.  Is this normal??
> 
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> 
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[newbie] MS vs GM

2001-10-03 Thread skinky

OT, I know, but thought someone might enjoy a wee bit of amusement:

At a computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer
industry with the auto industry and stated:

"If GM had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we 
would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon.
 
In response to Bill's comments, General Motors should have issued a press
release stating: "If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would 
all be driving cars with the following characteristics: (PART II)
 
8. New seats would force everyone to have the same sized butt.

9. The airbag system would ask "are you SURE?" before deploying.
 
10. Occasionally, for no ! ! reason whatsoever, your car would lock you 
out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door 
handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
 
11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of Rand
McNally Road maps (now a GM subsidiary), even though they neither need nor 
want them. Attempting to delete this option would immediately cause the 
car's performance to diminish by 50% or more. Moreover, GM would become a 
target for investigation by the Justice Dept.
 
12. Every time GM introduced a new car, car buyers would have to learn to 
drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the 
same manner as the old car.
 
13. You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off.

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Re: [newbie] shift causes beep?

2001-10-03 Thread Manuel Drake

I don't think that is it, well, didn't, until I tested that theory while I
was responding to this post... which crippled my keyboard.  Doh.

Any thoughts on how I can un-map shift as a typematic?  I do indeed have a
strange keyboard though, a "micro inovations" keyboard with a built in
touchpad, which I've been using for some time (long enough to wear the nub
off the 'j' key.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Steve Borrett wrote:

> >I press SHIFT often to select multiple files, etc.  If I hold it down for
> >a few seconds, I get a BEEP from the box.

> This sounds like your keyboard buffer is filling up. You are effectively
> sending
> keyboard actions to the system faster than it can action them, so the PC beeps
> at you to let you know.
> However, I have only ever really come across this with the typematic keys
> pressed,
> and SHIFT is not normally a typematic key. Perhaps you have a strange config,
> or keyboard, which has enabled the SHIFT key as typematic?
> Anyhow, the upshot is that it shouldn't be a problem, just a bit of a pain
> in the "ears"
> ( rearrange letters to form suitable expletive )





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[newbie] attachments in every message??

2001-10-03 Thread Carl Lafferty

I recently signed back up to the expert and newbie lists 
for mandrake in anticipation of the new 8.1 release and 
find that something is different with the list.
It may have been discussed before but now EVERY message
I have gotten today has had a 'message.footer' file attached
to it.  Is this normal??

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Re: [newbie] point one?

2001-10-03 Thread Michel Clasquin

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 16:47, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

>There
> is NO match for Galeon ...  on Win/Mac :)

... And the choir sang, "Amen"!

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[newbie] Graphical login not working after usb mouse setup?

2001-10-03 Thread Marcio Cordero

Hi all,
I just configured a Logitech Pilot Wheel mouse on usb after I just couldn't
get it 
to work as PS/2 (with the included adaptor). I did so using the LM 8.1 CD1
and 
making an "expert update" without installing any new packages.  As well, I
did 
the standard X configuration (SiS 630 AGP card) and chose to have graphical 
login at startup. Now, I not only don't get any graphical login but also the

backspace key is not working at all.
It's specially strange since I don't see the typical flackering of the
screen when it 
tries to start X and fails and if I login and do startx, it starts
perfectly. Could it be 
it isn't trying to start it at all?
If you need any X-server output, just let me know.
Thanks in advance,
Marcio Cordero 
P.S: the pilot mouse did work using PS/2 adaptor on an older machine, but it

doesn't on this one, does anyone know what I could do or where to report it?

Thanks...

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Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems

2001-10-03 Thread Alan Shoemaker

etharp wrote:
> 
>
> > Joethe real winmodem problem is better explained
> > below by the two selected quotes from Rick Moen's
> > linuxmafia.com website:
> >
> > http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/
>
> good link, thanks

You're quite welcome. :)

> <'nother snip>
>
> > Theoretically, programmers could write substitute
> > "engine" software for non-MS-Windows operating systems.
> > This would have to be done separately for each OS and for
> > each modem-type crippled in some distinctive way.
> > Further, it would entail reverse-engineering each such
> > design's programming interface, without cooperation from
> > manufacturers who classify this as proprietary
> > information. In any event, programmers seem highly
> > unlikely to bother, because they find it far easier to
> > buy real modems, instead.
>
> not to mention a jail term in the USA due to the DCMA.

True, that's a definate possibility, and I'm somewhat 
surprised that Rick hasn't yet updated the paragraph to 
reflect that danger. :)
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Re: [newbie] point one?

2001-10-03 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 11:43:55 -0400, Tim Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree!  That's one real annoying thing about Netscape.
> 
> I would suggest to you Opera then.  I think I have like 8 diferent browsers
> installed on my machine, but that's the one I use.  I use Netscape for the
> JAVA applets like chat.yahoo.com and things like that, but for the most
> part, I don't use "Nutscrape" at all.
> 
> And Galeon should work in KDE form what I understand.  I use Enlightenment
> on my workstation at home, and at other "remote offices" I use Afterstep.
> (Afterstep isn't bad, but I like Enlightenment much better!)  I then use
> FVWM2 at work.  KDE was too Windows-y for me.  I was trying to distance my
> self from Windows all together!
> tdh

Galeon works fine in KDE, from my experience. I like it because it has both a
multiple document interface (like Opera) _and_ a single document interface
(multiple windows, like most other browsers). You can have several tabs open in
each window, and you can save the tabbed/windowed sessions to files for later
retrieval. Another great thing is that it uses Mozilla's Gecko for rendering,
which IMHO is the fastest and most accurate HTML rendering engine on the planet.
It is very configurable, and the most frequently-used controls are within easy
reach from the menus (unlike the other browsers). It also uses the XBEL
bookmarking format, just like Konqueror.

I'm a bit of a browser-junkie. I have found that I like to browse different
kinds of sites in different ways, so I end up frequently switching between
Galeon (with its good combination of MDI and SDI), Opera (good MDI; different
from Galeon), Konqueror (I like to use several frames in one window), Netscape 4
(only to do my banking), and Links (an excellent text-only browser with tables
and mouse support). Fortunately, I have 256MB of RAM, so I can have them all
open at once :)

Desktop-wise, I am a GNOME user (another area where 256MB of RAM really helps
:). I initially migrated to GNU/Linux from Windos. I was using Caldera OpenLinux
2.2, which had only KDE1. After a little while, I switched to Red Hat 6.0, with
its GNOME 1.0 interface. I have stayed with GNOME ever since, because KDE
(especially KDE1) is too much like Windows for my liking (Konq is great, though
:). I always found the Windows interface to be limiting, and I used to have
several third-party utilities on my Win desktop to improve its functionality.
GNOME gave me a very configurable interface, negating the need for add-ons.


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Re: [newbie] apt-get?

2001-10-03 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:03:57 +0200, Søren Neigaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I don't know whether I should install Mandrake or Debian :) Do
> Mandrake have something like apt-get, to install packages, and upgrade
> the hole system?
> 
> Come one, give me some buzzwords, why should I prefer mandrake?

Mandrake has not one, but _two_ apt-like tools.

urpmi is Mandrake's own app, designed to cater for newbies and to serve as a
backend for Mandrake's Software Manager.

rpm-get is essentially a port of apt-get to RPM. Consequently, it works in a
very similar manner. As of Mandrake 8.1, it is officially supported along with
urpmi. If you like apt-get, this is the Mandrake tool you'd be after.

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Re: [newbie] point one?

2001-10-03 Thread shane

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 06:58, you spoke unto me thusly:
>
> Jeez Mandrake, if you want to compete with Windows and MacOS, you're gonna
> have to slow down. People expect a lot less :)

makes ya wonder, based on the speed their apps mature, if ms has like 4 
programmers in a dungeon somewhere and all the other employies are marketing 
and lawyers.



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Re: [newbie] auto mounting cdrom

2001-10-03 Thread shane

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 08:10, you spoke unto me thusly:
 
> > you might try kwickdisk if you are running the new 8.1
>
> Where can i find it??  8-?

kwikdisk (my bad spelling) is under the configuration > hardware menu in 8.1 
if you are running it (download 8.1 from the mandrake home page) or 
http://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=kwikdisk has 
versions for a few other kde builds.

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[newbie] apt-get?

2001-10-03 Thread Søren Neigaard

Hi

I don't know whether I should install Mandrake or Debian :) Do
Mandrake have something like apt-get, to install packages, and upgrade
the hole system?

Come one, give me some buzzwords, why should I prefer mandrake?

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Re: [newbie] point one?

2001-10-03 Thread Tim Holmes

I agree!  That's one real annoying thing about Netscape.

I would suggest to you Opera then.  I think I have like 8 diferent browsers
installed on my machine, but that's the one I use.  I use Netscape for the
JAVA applets like chat.yahoo.com and things like that, but for the most
part, I don't use "Nutscrape" at all.

And Galeon should work in KDE form what I understand.  I use Enlightenment
on my workstation at home, and at other "remote offices" I use Afterstep.
(Afterstep isn't bad, but I like Enlightenment much better!)  I then use
FVWM2 at work.  KDE was too Windows-y for me.  I was trying to distance my
self from Windows all together!
tdh
 
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| on 10/3/01 10:12 AM, Tim Holmes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| > I've never used Galeon, but mainly because I've always just disliked GNOME.
| > The only thing I like about GNOME would be GIMP.  But I really like Opera!
| 
| I still haven't found a unix web browser I really like yet. I just tried
| Galeon for the first time last night, and it looks promising. But only if it
| works in KDE, I also don't like gnome.
| 
| > Never any font problems, and one thing I've hated about Netscape, is it's
| > resizing issue.
| 
| What I've hated about Netscape for years is that resizing the window causes
| Netscape to rerequest the webpage. Its already got the *&$(ing data, just
| reflow it!
| 
| Matt
| 
| 
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Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems

2001-10-03 Thread etharp


> Joethe real winmodem problem is better explained below by
> the two selected quotes from Rick Moen's linuxmafia.com
> website:
>
> http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/
good link, thanks
<'nother snip>



> Theoretically, programmers could write substitute "engine"
> software for non-MS-Windows operating systems. This would
> have to be done separately for each OS and for each
> modem-type crippled in some distinctive way. Further, it
> would entail reverse-engineering each such design's
> programming interface, without cooperation from manufacturers
> who classify this as proprietary information. In any event,
> programmers seem highly unlikely to bother, because they find
> it far easier to buy real modems, instead.

not to mention a jail term in the USA due to the DCMA.


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Re: [newbie] HTML: Links & Anchors

2001-10-03 Thread Andre Dubuc

On Wednesday 03 October 2001 02:17, you wrote:
> At 12:28 AM 10/03/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Tuesday 02 October 2001 23:41, you wrote:
> >> Gidday Andre
> >> It's not really an Html help site so I'll send the details direct
> >> This is the main page
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> "(Type a title for your page here)"
> >> 
> >>   
> >>
> >> 
> >>  >> alink="#ff0080">
> >>
> >>Open the new Html Document at a
> >> specific place
> >>
> >>  >> src="DocToLinkTo.jpg" alt="Open the new Html Document at an
> >> image">
> >>
> >>place to link to on this page
> >> 
> >>
> >> 
> >> >>
> >>
> >>linked place on this page
> >>   
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >> This is the page you are linking to
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  >> alink="#ff0080">
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> >>
> >>> 
> >>
> >> 
> >> >>
> >>> linked place
> >>
> >> 
> >> >>
> >>>< br>
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >> WebTutor by Joe Barta was very helpful for me when I was learning. The
> >> URL may have changed http://junior.apk.net/~jbarta/
> >> If it has just search for it on the net.
> >> If you have trouble finding it I'll see if I've still got it.
> >> Regards
> >> Max
> >
> >Thanks Max!
> >
> >Now that's what I call service!:>
> >
> >I just toured www.htmlhelp.com, and then Google for info on registering my
> >site. I was about to logoff but decided to check my mail again (I'm an
>
> e-mail
>
> >addict!). The info on "list keywords that search engines may look
> >for" and giving "a description of your page" was what I was looking for.
> >Thanks!
> >
> >I'm having another annoying problem: seems like the first half of my
> >web-page has "normal" text (i.e., Lucidatypewriter 12 pt), then it changes
> >into bold even though I have not specified any fonts in Bluefish. (I
> > didn't know how!)
> >
> >So, some further questions: is this font OK for the web, and secondly,
> > isn't the size a touch BIG? Oh, the questions I have -- where would I
> > look for details like this?
> >
> >My webpage is simple - I've used ps2pdf for conversion of my PS files, and
>
> to
>
> >be honest, I'm not too impressed with the quality of the output. (It
> > almost makes me long for . . . ) It's sort of fuzzy and washed-out.
>
> Unfortunately, I
>
> >can get my printer (HP 4000) even to print a draft using "PS and PDF
>
> Viewer".
>
> >Loads but doesn't print . . .sigh!
> >
> >Anyway, thanks again, and gidday to you too! (Sounds like Ottawa Valley to
> >me?)
> >
> >Regard,
> >Andre
>
> Just a few pointers:
>
> #1.  Do not use  as a multi-line seperator between lines of text (ie,
> don't have multiple  tags so that there are x number of lines of space
> between lines of text).
>
> #2.  Do not use spaces in image or file names.  I have seen too many times
> where this is problematic for people browsing websites.
>
> #3.  Verify that all links actually point to either a complete url or to a
> filename, instead of somewhere on your hard drive before posting the site.
>
> #4.  Your generator, if you are using one, should generate html 4.x code,
> not 3.2 as shown in the example -- not much of a difference, but there is
> still a difference.
>
> #5.  Try not to use  in your code, as it is "deprecated" and
> may disappear in future releases of the HTML / XHTML specifications.
>
> Michael
>


Thanks for the info, Michael.

I have a few questions concerning what you've suggested:

#1. What should I use to replace  as a multi-line separator?

#2. What should I use to replace spaces (nbsp?) in images?

#5. Is 12pt font size too big? If I understand what you're saying: fonts 
become user-specific to their browser/setup? (So, in effect, it doesn't 
matter what font I use?)

Thanks for your help,
Regards
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Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work...

2001-10-03 Thread vadim


- Original Message -
From: "Ron Bouwhuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work...


> > >so that it runs my scan that adds nimda and code
> > red clients to my ipchains
> > >rules to block them...
> > >
> > >it needs to run alot so I figure that every five
> > minutes would be good.
> > >(have I done that right?)
> >
>
> Frank,
>
> Cron has its uses, but is sometimes fiddly.  It's also
> more suited to running administrative tasks at certain
> times of the day, week, month etc. rather than what I
> think you are trying to do.  I saw other posts helping
> you understand both the editing of your crontab and
> the meaning of the entries, so I won't go into a
> discussion on that.
>
> If all you want to do is run some code every 5
> minutes, a simple alternative is to put it in a
> script, inside a loop and put a sleep 300 command at
> the end of the loop. (Or you could use sleep 5m).  As
> the sleep won't start until after your previous
> commands finish, you don't have to worry about having
> several invokations running at the same time.
>
> To illustrate the syntax:
>
> while [ x = x ]
> do
>   
>   sleep 300
> done
>
> say you put this script in a file called block_nimda,
> you could then run it as follows:
>
> nohup ./block_nimda &
>
> This will run block_nimda script in background and
> protect it from a hang-up signal when you log-off.
> There are other considerations, like writing all
> output to log files, with full path names, etc.  Oh,
> and to stop the command you need to use kill!
>
> Of course, you can go fancy and build it into your
> init.d scripts so it runs on boot.  If you need help
> on doing that, let me know (but try it first
> yourself!)
>
> Hope this helps!
> Ron.
>
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Re: [newbie] Is there a Linux equivalent of Zone Alarm?

2001-10-03 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 09:17:07 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gordon

ZoneAlarm is a piece of junk. Welcome to the world of Linux (Kernel 2.4), where
_everybody_ can have true enterprise-level firewalling at no extra cost :)

Linux (i.e. the kernel) 2.4 features iptables, a _very_ powerful firewalling
system. You can either configure it directly, or you can use one of many
configuration front-ends. I suggest that you use Bastille, which you can run by
typing "InteractiveBastille" into a root console. Bastille is more than a
firewall - it's a complete distribution hardening system. There is much more to
system security than simply a firewall.

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Re: [newbie] shift causes beep?

2001-10-03 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 10:08:11 +0100, Steve Borrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Ok, maybe a dumb question, but I don't think this is related to anything I
> >installed, so I will ask.
> >
> >I press SHIFT often to select multiple files, etc.  If I hold it down for
> >a few seconds, I get a BEEP from the box.
> >
> >Is something going on that I don't know about??  Built-in of some kind??
> >
> >
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> This sounds like your keyboard buffer is filling up. You are effectively 
> sending
> keyboard actions to the system faster than it can action them, so the PC beeps
> at you to let you know.
> However, I have only ever really come across this with the typematic keys 
> pressed,
> and SHIFT is not normally a typematic key. Perhaps you have a strange config,
> or keyboard, which has enabled the SHIFT key as typematic?
> Anyhow, the upshot is that it shouldn't be a problem, just a bit of a pain 
> in the "ears"
> ( rearrange letters to form suitable expletive )

ROTFL! Very clever :)

> Steve.

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RE: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Michael Spivak

10x a lot for the quick responce, i just needed to know
all this stuff, so i can order it and get it next sunday ...

10x again

Michael Spivak

-Original Message-
From: Robert MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


installed both under m8 with not problems.
currently i have the 32 meg in as it has a faster processor than the
64 meg. hth

___
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


> Sorry, i wrote wrong the card name it's :
> GA - GF1280 GeForce2 MX 32 MB Gigabyte, or
> GeForce2 MX 200 64 MB
>
> i have to options, and i would like to know what's better
> and how easy to install it in already installed LM 8.1 system
>
> TIA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator
>
>
> Geforce cards are the simplest (actually this applies to most NVidia
> cards)  to setup.
> Plug in, get the Nvidia drivers, install them, change 1 line, add 1
> line and it's finished ;)
> And if you get stuck there are plenty of people here who can help
you.
>
> ___
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:15 AM
> Subject: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator
>
>
> > I'm just curious, does anyone here have some experiense with
GeForce
> 2 64MB
> > Gladiator
> > card and Linux Mandrake ? Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is
> it easy
> > to install ?
> >
> > Quick answer will be appreciated
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > ***
> > Michael Spivak
> > ***
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Robert MacLean

installed both under m8 with not problems.
currently i have the 32 meg in as it has a faster processor than the
64 meg. hth

___
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


> Sorry, i wrote wrong the card name it's :
> GA - GF1280 GeForce2 MX 32 MB Gigabyte, or
> GeForce2 MX 200 64 MB
>
> i have to options, and i would like to know what's better
> and how easy to install it in already installed LM 8.1 system
>
> TIA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator
>
>
> Geforce cards are the simplest (actually this applies to most NVidia
> cards)  to setup.
> Plug in, get the Nvidia drivers, install them, change 1 line, add 1
> line and it's finished ;)
> And if you get stuck there are plenty of people here who can help
you.
>
> ___
> Robert MacLean
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:15 AM
> Subject: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator
>
>
> > I'm just curious, does anyone here have some experiense with
GeForce
> 2 64MB
> > Gladiator
> > card and Linux Mandrake ? Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is
> it easy
> > to install ?
> >
> > Quick answer will be appreciated
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > ***
> > Michael Spivak
> > ***
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Re: [newbie] Mdk 8.1 intstall and F13 key

2001-10-03 Thread A V Flinsch

On Tuesday 02 October 2001 10:38 pm, you wrote:
> Hello
>
> I installed mdk 8.1 on my PC at office and had almost no problems but
> when I installed it on my laptop my first problem is that the F13 key
> (windows start key) doesn't seem to work. I tried setting it with

Assuming that you are using KDE, the problem is not with modmap, but 
rather with kcontrol.

Run kcontrol, select LookNFeel, then KeyBindings from the left hand tree 
menu, then set F13 to whatever you want to use it for in the right hand 
panel. I have mine set to do the same thing that id does in Windows -- 
bring up the "Start" menu or K-Menu.


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Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Robert MacLean

it's easier than windows to install new hardware.
hard drake should pick it up automagiclly and then you should just run
the config from for X and it should be done.
all Geforce cards, be they Gigabyte, Gladiator, PowerPack etc... ALL
run on the NVidia Geforce chipset.
The difference is in the board itself, and the other chips and who
made those, but the Geforce GPU is the same across all them.
and thus you can use the NVidia drivers (since they are the best) on
any of them. Personally I have a Gigabyte Geforce 2 MX and use the
nvidia drivers on both M8 and Win2k. I have also ran a Creative
Geforce 1 with the NVidia drivers on Win98.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


> I think it's GLADIATOR and not nVidia .
> anyway, i use Voodoo 3 3000, and if i'll replace
> it with the GeForce - does it mean that i'll need to reinstall
> the whole system, or the new hardware installation is easy
> like in the windohs ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator
>
>
> Geforce cards are the simplest (actually this applies to most NVidia
> cards)  to setup.
> Plug in, get the Nvidia drivers, install them, change 1 line, add 1
> line and it's finished ;)
> And if you get stuck there are plenty of people here who can help
you.
>
> ___
> Robert MacLean
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:15 AM
> Subject: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator
>
>
> > I'm just curious, does anyone here have some experiense with
GeForce
> 2 64MB
> > Gladiator
> > card and Linux Mandrake ? Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is
> it easy
> > to install ?
> >
> > Quick answer will be appreciated
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > ***
> > Michael Spivak
> > ***
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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RE: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Michael Spivak

Sorry, i wrote wrong the card name it's :
GA - GF1280 GeForce2 MX 32 MB Gigabyte, or
GeForce2 MX 200 64 MB

i have to options, and i would like to know what's better
and how easy to install it in already installed LM 8.1 system

TIA

-Original Message-
From: Robert MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


Geforce cards are the simplest (actually this applies to most NVidia
cards)  to setup.
Plug in, get the Nvidia drivers, install them, change 1 line, add 1
line and it's finished ;)
And if you get stuck there are plenty of people here who can help you.

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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


> I'm just curious, does anyone here have some experiense with GeForce
2 64MB
> Gladiator
> card and Linux Mandrake ? Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is
it easy
> to install ?
>
> Quick answer will be appreciated
>
> TIA
>
> ***
> Michael Spivak
> ***
>
>
>
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RE: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Michael Spivak

I think it's GLADIATOR and not nVidia .
anyway, i use Voodoo 3 3000, and if i'll replace
it with the GeForce - does it mean that i'll need to reinstall
the whole system, or the new hardware installation is easy
like in the windohs ?

-Original Message-
From: Robert MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


Geforce cards are the simplest (actually this applies to most NVidia
cards)  to setup.
Plug in, get the Nvidia drivers, install them, change 1 line, add 1
line and it's finished ;)
And if you get stuck there are plenty of people here who can help you.

___
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


> I'm just curious, does anyone here have some experiense with GeForce
2 64MB
> Gladiator
> card and Linux Mandrake ? Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is
it easy
> to install ?
>
> Quick answer will be appreciated
>
> TIA
>
> ***
> Michael Spivak
> ***
>
>
>
>





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Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Robert MacLean

Sorry forgot about this bit.
DRI (Glide) is a 3dfx thing only, you can only use it with a 3dfx card
(which i wouldn't buy since 3dfx doesn't exist any more).
The geforce cards use OpenGL instead and it is far better than glide
anyway.

___
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


> I'm just curious, does anyone here have some experiense with GeForce
2 64MB
> Gladiator
> card and Linux Mandrake ? Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is
it easy
> to install ?
>
> Quick answer will be appreciated
>
> TIA
>
> ***
> Michael Spivak
> ***
>
>
>
>




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Re: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Robert MacLean

Geforce cards are the simplest (actually this applies to most NVidia
cards)  to setup.
Plug in, get the Nvidia drivers, install them, change 1 line, add 1
line and it's finished ;)
And if you get stuck there are plenty of people here who can help you.

___
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Spivak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Newbie (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: [newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator


> I'm just curious, does anyone here have some experiense with GeForce
2 64MB
> Gladiator
> card and Linux Mandrake ? Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is
it easy
> to install ?
>
> Quick answer will be appreciated
>
> TIA
>
> ***
> Michael Spivak
> ***
>
>
>
>




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[newbie] GeForce 2 64MB Gladiator

2001-10-03 Thread Michael Spivak



I'm just curious, does
anyone here have some experiense with GeForce 2 64MB
Gladiator
card and Linux Mandrake ?
Is it work good with the DRI (Glide), is it easy to install
?
 
Quick answer will be
appreciated
 
TIA
 

***
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Spivak ***

 


Re: [newbie] shift causes beep?

2001-10-03 Thread Steve Borrett


>Ok, maybe a dumb question, but I don't think this is related to anything I
>installed, so I will ask.
>
>I press SHIFT often to select multiple files, etc.  If I hold it down for
>a few seconds, I get a BEEP from the box.
>
>Is something going on that I don't know about??  Built-in of some kind??
>
>
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This sounds like your keyboard buffer is filling up. You are effectively 
sending
keyboard actions to the system faster than it can action them, so the PC beeps
at you to let you know.
However, I have only ever really come across this with the typematic keys 
pressed,
and SHIFT is not normally a typematic key. Perhaps you have a strange config,
or keyboard, which has enabled the SHIFT key as typematic?
Anyhow, the upshot is that it shouldn't be a problem, just a bit of a pain 
in the "ears"
( rearrange letters to form suitable expletive )

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Re: [newbie] Installing Zip drive on 8.0

2001-10-03 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ahhh - sorry!
> 
> I'll write up a little mini-howto tonight when I get sat down with my Linux
> box. Sorry for the delay in replying - I've been in Amsterdam for a few days
> and only just got back to work.
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Gordon Burgess-Parker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:19 PM
>>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject:  Re: [newbie] Installing Zip drive on 8.0
>>
>>FLYNN, Steve wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What's wrong with following the ZIP FAQ?
>>>
>>>All it involves is insmod'ing the ppa modules and mounting the drive. I
>>>
>>did
>>
>>>it on my laptop, running Mandrake 6.5 about a week ago, without a
>>>
>>problem.
>>
>>>Steve Flynn
>>>NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst
>>>* 01603 687386
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Could you care to explain all that, as I've only been using Linux for 
>>about 2 days!
>>
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Thanks for your trouble! My problem is that I can mount the drive 
manually, but not automatically. The system does not seem to recognise 
sda4 unless I run ppa. Also the icon on the desktop does not save the 
properties that I re-set each time. (Device seems to be set at /mnt/zip 
which doesn't work - if I set the Device to be /dev/sda4 then the icon 
works but it won't save the setting!)

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RE: [newbie] Installing Zip drive on 8.0

2001-10-03 Thread FLYNN, Steve

Ahhh - sorry!

I'll write up a little mini-howto tonight when I get sat down with my Linux
box. Sorry for the delay in replying - I've been in Amsterdam for a few days
and only just got back to work.

> -Original Message-
> From: Gordon Burgess-Parker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:19 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [newbie] Installing Zip drive on 8.0
> 
> FLYNN, Steve wrote:
> 
> >What's wrong with following the ZIP FAQ?
> >
> >All it involves is insmod'ing the ppa modules and mounting the drive. I
> did
> >it on my laptop, running Mandrake 6.5 about a week ago, without a
> problem.
> >
> >Steve Flynn
> >NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst
> >* 01603 687386
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> Could you care to explain all that, as I've only been using Linux for 
> about 2 days!
> 
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Re: [newbie] Is there a Linux equivalent of Zone Alarm?

2001-10-03 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> however for starters mandrake control center 8.0 and above has the firewall
> option available for u to enable.
> 
> another that comes on the cd is interactive bastille.
> 

Do I take that to mean there's a built -in firewall in Mandrake 8 
itself, and all I have to do is activate it?

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Re: [newbie] Is there a Linux equivalent of Zone Alarm?

2001-10-03 Thread Mohammed Arafa

hey gordon
yes there is
but it doesnt do sounds its called a firewall and u have to find out which u
like best.

however for starters mandrake control center 8.0 and above has the firewall
option available for u to enable.

another that comes on the cd is interactive bastille.

there is a link for it at the mandrake website as lm is sponsoring its
development

enjoy ur trip down the learning curve
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> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gordon
>
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RE: [newbie] Creative soundblaster live

2001-10-03 Thread FLYNN, Steve

I wouldn't of thought so Mike - what would bash do with a line like

setenv SOURCE /usr/local/src

when it was expecting something like

SOURCE=/usr/local/src ; export SOURCE

I suspect you'd break your shell and then have to repair it pretty quickly!

Reminds me of the time one of my sysprogs changed the logon procedure on an
MVS mainframe, right before it was rebooted (IPL'd). Of course, he'd made a
typo, and hadn't tested it. Machine came back up and no-one could log in
because the login proc now didn't work!

He had to make a very embarrassed phonecall to IBM to get an engineer out
and fix the typo!

(I found it hilarious, but it was just as well it was on a Friday night with
no online day on the Saturday, so we had plenty of time to effect a repair).

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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [newbie] Creative soundblaster live
> 
> On Tuesday 02 October 2001 10:09 am, you wrote:
> > Ahh - log in as root.
> >
> > /usr/sbin/sndconfig (I think!)
> >
> > We really need to get your userid sorted out with a
> > decent path - it'll make troubleshooting the rest of the
> > system much easier!
> could he copy ~/.bashrc to ~/.cshrc ?
> >
> >
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Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems

2001-10-03 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 22:48:31 -0500, Joseph Braddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Are you telling me that by hooking up an external modem through a serial 
> port, it's not taking any CPU cycles?  Somehow, something in my computer has 
> to read that port and process the data to get it to my browser, email, or 
> hard drive.  It might not use as much CPU cycles, but it uses some.  Most 
> people using winmodems are coming from windows.  To tell a prospective new 
> linux user to shell out $70 for an external (or internal) modem to run their 
> "free" software won't win many converts.  It's kind of like Microsoft 
> offering free beta versions of software if you pay $19.95 for shipping and 
> handling.
>
> I don't see how a design choice to minimize cost by utilizing excess CPU 
> cycles is somehow parasitic or evil.  For the record, I did some tests of 
> using my winmodem and an external modem.  For all practical purposes, the 
> throughput was identical (neither reached 53K due to phone line quality).  
> Neither seemed to slow down my system 450mhz AMD K62 196MB RAM.
> 
> If someone is running Mandrake, then they are running a minimum of a pentium 
> processor.  Every adapter/peripheral in the computer uses CPU cycles to work. 
> For the average newbie, using a winmodem to surf the web and check email is 
> not going to be a resource hog for the CPU.  If the CPU is so slow that a 
> winmodem is a burden for it, then the $70 for a new modem would be better 
> spent on a new motherboard/cpu.

Serial ports have stayed mostly unchanged for over 20 years now. The load on a
CPU back then was minimal, and it is negligible today. Winmodems rely on the
system's CPU to do most of the work, placing a much larger drain on the
processor. A typical winmodem can chew up between 10 and 30 per cent of a
system's CPU power when in use.

> I sometimes wonder if the Linux community came up with linmodems instead of 
> Windows, if there would be such an uproar over them.  Yes, some of them can 
> be a pain to get them working, but there are many, many winmodems that 
> function quite well under Linux.

This is true, but most of them either don't work at all or are not worth the
trouble. Being a software modem, most of the development has been on the
software (i.e. the driver), not the hardware. Companies are therefore reluctant
to provide open source Linux drivers, since most of their intellectual property
is tied-up in the software rather than in the hardware. Most winmodem support in
Linux has been the result of painstaking reverse-engineering by open source
developers, with no assistance from the manufacturers. They are essentially
hacks (i.e. workable solutions), and often don't work as well as do their
official Windows counterparts. A few manufacturers have released drivers for
Linux, or have co-operated with open source developers to create one. If one
owns one of these modems, and can stand the performance hit of a
winmodem/linmodem, there is little reason to spend money on a real modem. I
personally would still prefer a real modem, but that's simply a matter of
personal choice.

> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday 01 October 2001 11:58 pm, you wrote:
> > You've actually missed the point about "winmodems". It's not that they
> > need a driver to work (If they'll work at all). The problem with them is
> > that they shift the work that normally done by the modem, over to the
> > main system processor, thus sucking valuable CPU cycles.
> >
> > They're parasitic by design, trash the blood suckers, and buy a real
> > modem that does it's own work.
> >
> > Ric
> >
> > "Arthur H. Johnson II" wrote:
> > > Here here!  Good post!  I have a Lucent and it works Awesome on my Duron
> > > 800 at home.  It even worked decently find with 166 and 200 Pentiums.
> > > Some of us have lives and need to pinch pennies.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Joseph Braddock wrote:
> > > > There sure is a lot of talk about modems and winmodems on this list. 
> > > > At times it sounds like a religious argument!  But, I think we do a
> > > > diservice to people by telling them to run out and buy a true modem
> > > > whenever they pose a question about a winmodem.
> > > >
> > > > While it is true that a real modem (external or internal) is usually
> > > > easier to setup/install.  The fact is that many of these people already
> > > > have the winmodem in their formerly Windows machines.
> > > >
> > > > Winmodems can be a good choice, particularly for the cost concious.  I
> > > > know that not all winmodems work with Linux, but many based on Lucent
> > > > or PCTel chipsets do.  The only problem is that you have to install a
> > > > driver (usually open-source) for them.
> > > >
> > > > If having to install the driver is what causes a problem in
> > > > recommending them, well, then, we better quit using NVida and most
> > > > other graphic cards, numerous other IO adapters and the like.
> > > >
> > > > Ironically, for people coming from Windows, having to i

Re: [newbie] Swap & Mempry

2001-10-03 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:28:30 +0300, "Yuriy Temnyuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have 256 Mb phisical memory, what size of Swap I must create?
> 
> Thank,
> Yuriy

The general rule-of-thumb is to have a swap size of 2x RAM. However, you
typically won't gain much by having over 200MB of swap. If you need to use this
much swap, your hard drive would be thrashing like crazy and your system would
slow to a crawl. In this case, you should really look into buying more RAM
(assuming that the problem hasn't been caused by buggy software). Excess RAM is
not wasted in Linux, since it uses the surplus for hard drive caching.

Of course, there are exceptions. For example, servers often require large
volumes of swap space, as do serious software/graphical/multimedia development
workstations. For the average desktop system, however, a maximum of 200MB is
plenty.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

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RE: [newbie] found in apache logs

2001-10-03 Thread Franki

welcome to nimda and Code Red

its nearly all that shows up in my logs nowdays..

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] found in apache logs


On Tuesday 02 October 2001 10:46 pm, you wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Jon Doe wrote:
> > Is this some kind of worm? I found this in httpd  access logs:
>
> It's more of the microsoft webserver junk. No need to worry.

Thats a relief, thanks.





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