Re: [newbie] INSTALL STAR OFFICE

2001-12-01 Thread Damian G


after you downloaded the .bin files, you have to run them. watch for the 
file's access permissions. usually you won't be able to run them right away. 
in KDE, right click on the file and in properties turn "execute" permission 
on.

>From: Ivor Westwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [newbie] INSTALL STAR OFFICE
>Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:52:04 +1300
>
>HI ALL
>
>I have downloaded Star Office 5 into a folder named Download in Home. I 
>have
>search through the manuals but don't seem to able to proceed from there.
>
>I am using Mandrake 8.1, 500k memory, 256 CPU /dev/hda7 7.4Gbt 84% free
>
>Any help would be very much appreciated.
>
>Ivor
>
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Re: [newbie] taking screenshots

2001-12-01 Thread tek1

thank you all for your replies!!!  :)



At 23:44 01/12/01 +1100, you wrote:

> > wow!  that is a great program!  thanks!  it would be neat to also be able
> > to save as .jpg, but i guess that many of the graphic converters out there
> > could easily do it.  can you recommend any?  thanks again!  :)
> >
>
>Just try typing the file name you want to save with .jpg on the end.  KDE is
>smart enough to know what format to save based on the suffix.  PNG is just
>the default.
>
>John.
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Re: [newbie] can't eject cdrom

2001-12-01 Thread Matt Greer

On Saturday 01 December 2001 07:50 am, you wrote:
> i recently bought a pre-built pc that has generic parts.  i was able to
> install mandrake on it using the cd-r/w drive, and have been using mandrake
> with no problem.  when i want to install new software (using the mandrake
> software manager), i insert the requested cd.  mandrake then asks for
> another cd.  when i push the eject button on the cd-r/w drive, the cd won't
> eject. 

You need to unmount the cd before you can 
eject it. If you are using KDE there's an easy way to do this (I discuss it 
below). But the surefire way of working no matter what your configuration is 
to type "umount /mnt/cdrom" as root in a terminal. If it is your second cd 
drive then type "umount /mnt/cdrom2".

> there's no icon on the mandrake desktop for these devices either...
>
Which window manager are you using? If it's KDE, right click on the desktop. 
Then select "create new" then "CDROM device" In the window that pops up, give 
the cdrom a name (say "DVD drive"). Then go to the device tab and from the 
drop down menu select which cd drive you want (for your first cd drive, it 
should say "/dev/hdx (/mnt/cdrom)" where hdx could be hda, hdb, hdc, etc...

Now right click on the cd icon and select "eject" as needed.

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Re: [newbie] can't eject cdrom

2001-12-01 Thread tek1

thank you very much!!!  :)



At 20:31 01/12/01 -0900, you wrote:

>All right, right-click on any vacant area of the screen if you are using KDE
>and select "Create New" and then CDROM Device and then look at the Device tab
>and select the item that says (/mnt/cdrom) as part of its name. Do it a
>second time and look for (/mnt/cdrom2).  You will now have your devices on
>your desktop, and if you left click them it opens them and mounts them same
>time.
>
>If you right-click those Icons once you have mounted something (and provided
>you are done with it and have closed any directories or terminals logged to
>it) you will see Unmount and Eject as choices.  You can Unmount and then push
>the button on the CD Drive or you can Eject and the drive will eject
>automatically.
>
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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread erylon hines

On Saturday 01 December 2001 19:04, you wrote:

> > > to have filled up your root partition. All the better to have /var off 
by
> > itself on another partitiion somewhere. Normally, of course, that
> > shouldn't happen; something must have caused a runaway log. For 'regular'
> > workstations those logs should be only a few megs apiece.
>
Ummm, actually, if you don't have a lot of space on your hd, the log files 
can use up a considerable amount of the free percentage if you don't edit 
your /etc/logrotate.conf so that it doesn't keep a whole month's worth of 
logs.  Logs can become massive affairs if you are doing a lot of 
configuration (and misconfiguration) of your system.  I recommend limiting 
the logs by changing all references in /etc/logrotate.conf that say "monthly" 
to "weekly" and all "weekly" references to "daily".  Also, "rotate 4" should 
be changed to "rotate 1".  Otherwise, one of these days you may lock up 
because the partiton that /var is on is out of space--I speak from 
experience.  This isn't the end of the world, you can reboot to level 3 and 
then use a text editor to delete the log files, but it is annoying.

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Re: [newbie] can't eject cdrom

2001-12-01 Thread civileme

On Saturday 01 December 2001 04:50 am, tek1 wrote:
> i recently bought a pre-built pc that has generic parts.  i was able to
> install mandrake on it using the cd-r/w drive, and have been using mandrake
> with no problem.  when i want to install new software (using the mandrake
> software manager), i insert the requested cd.  mandrake then asks for
> another cd.  when i push the eject button on the cd-r/w drive, the cd won't
> eject.  when i restart the machine and push the eject button, it works.
> just not once inside of mandrake/linux.  i also have a dvd-rom drive that i
> can't seem to access.
>
> here's the info from harddrake:
>
> CD-ROMs:
>   DVDROM 12X
>   Vendor: Unknown
>   Model: DVDROM 12X
>   Device: /dev/hdd
>   Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE
>
>   CD-ROM BC1610IM
>   Vendor: Unknown
>   Model: CD-RW BC1610IM
>   Device: /dev/hdc
>   Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE
>
>
> there's no icon on the mandrake desktop for these devices either...
>
> please help...
>
> thanks.

All right, right-click on any vacant area of the screen if you are using KDE 
and select "Create New" and then CDROM Device and then look at the Device tab 
and select the item that says (/mnt/cdrom) as part of its name. Do it a 
second time and look for (/mnt/cdrom2).  You will now have your devices on 
your desktop, and if you left click them it opens them and mounts them same 
time.  

If you right-click those Icons once you have mounted something (and provided 
you are done with it and have closed any directories or terminals logged to 
it) you will see Unmount and Eject as choices.  You can Unmount and then push 
the button on the CD Drive or you can Eject and the drive will eject 
automatically.

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[newbie] security: tcpd daemon with /etc/xinetd.d/

2001-12-01 Thread tek1

in my "linux: the complete reference" book on p.559, it explain that to use 
tcp wrappers (for monitoring connections and controlling access), we need 
to put tcpd in front of the service name in the inetd.conf file.

however, mandrake uses the xinetd.conf file, which doesn't list the 
services.  instead, it "includes" the dir /etc/xinetd.d/, which are the 
equivalent of listing the services in xinetd.conf.  but how do we wrap the 
services in /etc/xinetd.d/ in a tcpd wrapper?

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Re: [newbie] can't eject cdrom

2001-12-01 Thread Bill Winegarden

Hi,
You might try kwikdisk. It's in 'start', 'configuration', 'hardware'. This 
should show both of your drives and you should be able to umount them from 
there. Remember, they have to be unmounted before the tray will open. At 
least that's the way I do it till the automount is fixed.

Regards,
Bill W.

On Saturday 01 December 2001 05:50, you wrote:
> i recently bought a pre-built pc that has generic parts.  i was able to
> install mandrake on it using the cd-r/w drive, and have been using mandrake
> with no problem.  when i want to install new software (using the mandrake
> software manager), i insert the requested cd.  mandrake then asks for
> another cd.  when i push the eject button on the cd-r/w drive, the cd won't
> eject.  when i restart the machine and push the eject button, it works.
> just not once inside of mandrake/linux.  i also have a dvd-rom drive that i
> can't seem to access.
>
> here's the info from harddrake:
>
> CD-ROMs:
>   DVDROM 12X
>   Vendor: Unknown
>   Model: DVDROM 12X
>   Device: /dev/hdd
>   Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE
>
>   CD-ROM BC1610IM
>   Vendor: Unknown
>   Model: CD-RW BC1610IM
>   Device: /dev/hdc
>   Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE
>
>
> there's no icon on the mandrake desktop for these devices either...
>
> please help...
>
> thanks.



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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread Michael Viron

>But you took this further yet? So how many partitions would be
>reasonably possible?

The last system I installed on was a server, 3 sep. IDE hard drives, which
had a combined total of 46.4 GB worth of space.

I partitioned the 6.4 GB as a system drive (/, /var, /tmp, /usr, and swap)

The two 20 GB drives are partitioned as large 20 GB reiserfs partitions
mounted at /home and /backup.

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[newbie] can't eject cdrom

2001-12-01 Thread tek1

i recently bought a pre-built pc that has generic parts.  i was able to 
install mandrake on it using the cd-r/w drive, and have been using mandrake 
with no problem.  when i want to install new software (using the mandrake 
software manager), i insert the requested cd.  mandrake then asks for 
another cd.  when i push the eject button on the cd-r/w drive, the cd won't 
eject.  when i restart the machine and push the eject button, it works. 
just not once inside of mandrake/linux.  i also have a dvd-rom drive that i 
can't seem to access.

here's the info from harddrake:

CD-ROMs:
DVDROM 12X
Vendor: Unknown
Model: DVDROM 12X
Device: /dev/hdd
Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE

CD-ROM BC1610IM
Vendor: Unknown
Model: CD-RW BC1610IM
Device: /dev/hdc
Bus Type: ATAPI/IDE


there's no icon on the mandrake desktop for these devices either...

please help...

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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread Mr. Eds Brittanys

> to have filled up your root partition. All the better to have /var off by
> itself on another partitiion somewhere. Normally, of course, that shouldn't
> happen; something must have caused a runaway log. For 'regular' workstations
> those logs should be only a few megs apiece.

They were except for those few files I mentioned.

> About failsafe in particular: I don't pretty much like Mandrake's idea of
> graphical login, which even goes as far to elide the need for passwords at
> times. To each their own, but I prefer actually having to login at a login:
> prompt. And, I've always booted up in console mode, using startx to get
> to X.

Is there an advantage to booting to console rather than to the graphical
login?
I've only used console mode in 'emergencies'. I have an 11 yr old who
will only use Linux so the graphical login is easier for her to use.

> I had just gotten DSL...
Only in my dreams.

> And for what it's worth - I don't know if you're running with ext2 or
> reiserfs, but another way to add a lot of extra space is to switch to
> reiserfs. I didn't expect it at all, but I converted some of my filesystems
> over to reiserfs earlier today, and /home, which was a 5gig filesystem and
> was almost full, now has >900 megs free. The same is true for /usr/local,
> another 5 gig partition. It wasn't as full as /home, but there's a lot more
> room there now. I figure that's due to not needing inodes and such. Probably
> though there's got to be some reserved room for the journal - what happens
> when that gets full?

ext2
So how many partitions do you actually have then?

I thought this was a good idea:
Lanman wrote:
> I'd like to suggest that you break your "/home" partition into 2 partitions.
> Typically, DiskDrake will setup 3 partitions (ie; / , swap, and /home), but I
> suggest a fourth partition which can be used as an archive (read as storage)
> partition.

But you took this further yet? So how many partitions would be
reasonably possible?

your other email:
> it makes good sense to have multiple partitions. A drawback of course to that
> approach is that the new person doesn't really have a good idea of the space
> requirements for the various partitions.

Makes sense to me but additionally, the new person doesn't really have
an idea as to what can be partitioned alone and what can't.

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Re: [newbie] LILO Boot Disk

2001-12-01 Thread AOL Systems

I hope this my help you a little of my knowledge if u occur problems try
reading other answers by othere linux users.


insert the disk and issue this command
#mkbootdisk
#mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0
#fdformat /dev/fd0
#cp /boot/vmlinuz
#dev -R
#cp /etc/lilo.conf /dev/fd0
#cp /etc/fstab /dev/fd0
cp /etc/sysconfig/network


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>
> How do you make a Lilo Boot disk from command line? or using a Drake
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[newbie] PCMCIA modem

2001-12-01 Thread Dan Jacobs

Does anybody on the list use a laptop with a PCMCIA modem?
Which one do you have?
How much did it cost?
Have you had any problems with it?
I have a Dell laptop with an unsupported software modem, and I'm gonna ask
for a PCMCIA modem for the holidays.
TIA,
Drive safely,
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[newbie] INSTALL STAR OFFICE

2001-12-01 Thread Ivor Westwood

HI ALL

I have downloaded Star Office 5 into a folder named Download in Home. I have
search through the manuals but don't seem to able to proceed from there.

I am using Mandrake 8.1, 500k memory, 256 CPU /dev/hda7 7.4Gbt 84% free

Any help would be very much appreciated.

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[newbie] LILO Boot Disk

2001-12-01 Thread xsturm

Hey group,

How do you make a Lilo Boot disk from command line? or using a Drake
utility?


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Re: Re: [newbie] Double-sided printing

2001-12-01 Thread dfox


> What I am looking for is a way to automate this. I use a program called Fin=
> ePrint in Windows that acts as a 'virtual' printer driver and handles the p=

I wonder if there's something in CUPS that'll do that. I haven't looked at
this issue for sometime. Sure, using the staroffice or whatever other software,
there's ways to print even and odd pages separately. A while back there was
(and it should still be available) a set of tools called PSTricks or pstools.
These were little, but useful utilities for PostScript that would do things
like rearrange pages, separate the even pages from the odd ones, allow to
separate page ranges into individual files, stuff like that.

> Lance Dow
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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread dfox

> it was at 100%. The only way I could get anywhere was to go thru
> failsafe and login as root in text mode. And yes, I was in a panic. What
> I found was 8 files in /var/log, which when deleted, took me from 100%

Well, like I said, there could be really big logfiles. Your partition is
big enough that those files must have been several hundred megs in order
to have filled up your root partition. All the better to have /var off by
itself on another partitiion somewhere. Normally, of course, that shouldn't
happen; something must have caused a runaway log. For 'regular' workstations
those logs should be only a few megs apiece.

About failsafe in particular: I don't pretty much like Mandrake's idea of
graphical login, which even goes as far to elide the need for passwords at
times. To each their own, but I prefer actually having to login at a login:
prompt. And, I've always booted up in console mode, using startx to get
to X.

> StarOffice may be what created this problem. Those 8 log files were
> listed as one of the users. He only uses LM when he needs to write a
> report or something, and that's pretty limited. 

That's strange - logs should be written by the logging softare - those
are owned by root - at least mine are. But that corrupt Staroffice 6
bin turned out to be the culprit. I figured something was wrong when
the system was just churning the disk for twenty minutes - and I had a
log file that was several hundred megabytes long.

> Why did you switch from redhat? Just curious.

Well, after using 6.0 something for a while, things became a bit on the
unruly side - my system had grown to a hodgepodge of clutter, stuff from
other places installed in there. Besides, I was running out of room on 
my old 1.6 gig drive, so after getting a new 30gig one I figured it was 
again the time to reinstall. (I faced a similar situation several years
ago using a similarly hodgepodged system that was running Slackware.) I 
figured Mandrake was worth a try, so I grabbed it off an ftp mirror - and
at that time, I had just gotten DSL, which was another reason to try and
get something really really big from the .net  :).


And for what it's worth - I don't know if you're running with ext2 or
reiserfs, but another way to add a lot of extra space is to switch to
reiserfs. I didn't expect it at all, but I converted some of my filesystems
over to reiserfs earlier today, and /home, which was a 5gig filesystem and
was almost full, now has >900 megs free. The same is true for /usr/local,
another 5 gig partition. It wasn't as full as /home, but there's a lot more
room there now. I figure that's due to not needing inodes and such. Probably
though there's got to be some reserved room for the journal - what happens
when that gets full?

> Thanks

you're welcome :)

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Re: [newbie] kde 2.2.2 slooooow

2001-12-01 Thread Florian Struck

Did you upgrade qt too ? 
I heard there is a bug with it 
If you kill klipper it will not slow down the konqueror anymore (worked with 
me)
press ctrl and esc and choose klipper and kill it .
Cheers
Florian

On Saturday 01 Dec 2001 10:39 pm, you wrote:
> I just upgraded from kde 2.2.1 to 2.2.2. The install went very smoothly. I
> downloaded the mandrake i586 rpms from kde's ftp site. I only had two
> failed dependencies which I fixed, and then did "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" from the
> directory they were in (kde was not running at the time) and away it went.
>
> When I returned to kde I found it to be really slow. Kmail isn't so bad,
> and non webbrowsing konqueror is ok, but kdevelop and web browsing
> konqueror are incredibly slow. Kdevelop takes a good 5 minutes to shut
> down, and about a minute to do anything (say switch to a different
> document). Generally speaking any k apps are slower than they used to be.
>
> I'll be reinstalling Mandrake 8.1 tonight, as that's the only way I know of
> to go back to 2.2.1 and be sure of no problems. But if anyone has any
> ideas, I'm all ears.
>
> Fortunately I backed up everything before attempting 2.2.2.
>
> Matt
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Re: [newbie] Internet connection and LAN don't get along

2001-12-01 Thread Warren Post

That fixed it. Thanks!

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Erylon Hines wrote in part:

> ...I manually edit the .conf
> files, including /etc/sysconfig/network, which usually contains at least one
> error, even doing the configuration my way (generally the GATEWAYDEV=eth0
> needs to be commented out, thus): /etc/sysconfig/network
>
> NETWORKING=yes
> FORWARD_IPV4=false
> HOSTNAME=mycomputername.mydomain
> DOMAINNAME=mydomain
> #GATEWAYDEV=eth0
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[newbie] Konqueror can't browse the LAN

2001-12-01 Thread Warren Post

My LAN is operating (two machines, both with LM) with NFS. Samba is not
configured, as I plan to remove Windows and have a Linux only LAN. The
machines can ping one another, and Internet connection sharing is
working. (In fact, my cybercafé is now using Linux -- hurray! -- and
customers are happy... but that's another story.)

If I try to browse the LAN in Konqueror, however, I get an error
message. Specifically, If I select Network | Local Network on the
Konqueror sidebar (which shows a URL of "lan://localhost/") in the
location field) I receive the error message "Could not connect to host
localhost". Presumably I have something misconfigured, but what?

At first I thought this might be a Konqueror issue and checked the
kde.org site, but couldn't find anything relevant.

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Re: [newbie] Modem & LAN connections in the same box

2001-12-01 Thread Warren Post

I have the same problem. Several useful comments are poping up in the thread
"Internet connection and LAN don't get along". Take a look and see if you can't
find a solution there.

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lee wrote:

> hi folks,
>
> I've got a box here with a modem connecting kppp(which works fine) and an nic
> card(2 actually..1 is mb integrated). I can surf fine via kppp.  I can ping
> the proxy(and vice versa) but no other requests go thru..using squid as the
> software. I can post whaever files that might help the wise ones on here help
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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread Mr. Eds Brittanys

> > I did it this time. I couldn't log in this morning at all. Rec. the msg:
> > exited with non-zero status
> > Please contact your system administrator.
> 
> Yeah, did you ring yourself up? :)
> 
Yea. And therein lies the problem. The sys admin, aka I, didn't know
what I was doing. It was when I found reference to the 'df' in the
archives that I knew to look. At the time I was getting the error msg,
it was at 100%. The only way I could get anywhere was to go thru
failsafe and login as root in text mode. And yes, I was in a panic. What
I found was 8 files in /var/log, which when deleted, took me from 100%
to 84%. I have no idea what they were or why they were there. 

> Looking briefly at your 'df' report, there *should* be enough space so
> that the message should not appear - I don't think that the message in
> itself is space related. Your / is at 84% which is all right; if it was
> at 100% I'd panic. Were you able to login as root and not as a user? The
> system does leave some space reserved as root just for cases like this.
> 
> > file and not being able to access DrakConf and I can email again so they
> > were all related afterall.
> 
> If you have a rather large inbox you need space in order to store a
> backup copy of it, depending on what mail reader you use. That may not
> be of issue here but it's something I run up against from time to time when
> I use 'elm'.

> A general tip - you can use 'du' on parts of your / filesystem to find out
> where the space is being used, and then attempt to figure out what to get
> rid of.
> > And what else is safe to delete to free up space?
> 
> the system usually takes care of that for you - although in one recent
> instance, when I was installing a corrupt copy of StarOffice 6, my
> /var partition filled all the way up because of a runaway logging process :(.

StarOffice may be what created this problem. Those 8 log files were
listed as one of the users. He only uses LM when he needs to write a
report or something, and that's pretty limited. 

> How did yuo install Mandrake? Did you select everything, or did you use a
> smaller subset of 'everything'? If you did 'everything' there are a few
> things you can remove safely, such as documentation, since you can
> read the docs on the CDs. Back when I was running redhat, I found loads
> of different Howto's and other documents in different languages, and in
> different formats (dvi, ps, html, etc.) and that was a waste of disk
> resources. I managed to free up over 60 megs of stuff by getting rid of
> that stuff.

Why did you switch from redhat? Just curious.

Everything is installed but I didn't install it. When I bought this
puter, I asked them to install Linux and he recommended LM. Maybe if I
would have done it myself, I'd know more but my line of thinking was if
I got frustrated with the installation process, I'd scrap the whole
thing but if I had a working system to cut my teeth on. 
It takes longer to learn but I can learn a little at a time and not be
so overwhelmed. And you wouldn't believe the number of people who tried
to talk me out of trying linux. It's not without headaches and scary
moments but at least it can be fixed. I didn't know just how much I
hated windoze. The rebooting and rebooting and rebooting. And when
something messed up you hoped a reboot would fix it. It's funny tho, I
didn't know I could get so excited about a computer.

It's great having somewhere to get info and tap all these brains. Maybe
one of these days someone can tap my brain.

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday 01 December 2001 03:09 pm, dfox wrote:
> > Your best bet is to reinstall. Next time giving / a lot more
> > space, and /home a lot less.  OR, just avoid the issue altogether
> > and
>
> I'd have to disagree. Look at the df report - she only has 3% used
> in /home. Sure, home could be lessened but I don't think that's the
> issue here. 525megs (what is left on /) should be enough space and

In my experience any OS starts havin problems when partitions 
become 80+% full.  YMMV

> > install everything in one big / .   You could do this on hda7 and
>
> Not a very good idea. That could lead to lots of problems. One
> should at least segregate /home onto another partition, and it

   You might remember I suggested this only for a single user 
desktop, and keeping a seperate bakup of /home. The idea of 
installing Linux on multiple partitions, or all in one big / is an 
endless, often politically religious debate.  Been going on forever

   I've never understood the desire to maintain a /home dir, 
specially thru future installs and upgrades. Using a stale old /home 
WILL 'lead to lots of problems' by introducing extraneous, 
deprecated, often maliciously conflicting (specially config) files 
into newer upgrades and/or versions. Keep a backup of /home, 
introduce personal files or customizations back in slowly, one at a 
time, watching for problems. It's the same basis as the reasons that 
fresh installs are always a safer bet than upgrades, any OS.

   Multiple partitions does make sense on a multi user or server 
system.  Mostly for security concerns which aren't valid on a single 
user system.  Again, YMMV
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Re: [newbie] XFree upgrade question

2001-12-01 Thread Grant Fraser

I have installed the packages below and restarted x. When I use mandrake 
control to change the display configuration it only lets me choose between 
trying xfree86 3.3.6 and xfree86 4.0.3
What happened to the xfree86 4.1.0 choice? Now that I have the files, how do 
I actually use them?

> > > > I normally update 8 pkgs:
> > > >
> > > > XFree 86
> > > > XFree 86-libs
> > > > XFree 86-server
> > > > XFree 86-devel
> > > > XFree 86-Xnest
> > > > XFree 86-xfs
> > > > XFree 86-100dpi fonts
> > > > XFree 86-75dpi fonts
> > > >
> > > > I also normally use rpmdrake to download and install, you simply need
> > > > add a Cooker source.
> > > >
> > > > You do not need all the pkgs I have.
> > > > If you use rpmdrake just select the XFree 86 rpm and it will auto add
> > > > the others that you Must have.
> > > >
> > > > Once they are installed, log-out and restart X ( you do not need to
> > > > reboot.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Charles
> > >
> > > LOL, that almost worked. It took trying all the mirrors twice before I
> > > finally didn't get the "an error occured when adding this source" then
> > > I figured kewl, I'm finally gonna get it, and now 6 tries later I'm
> > > getting "error fetching package" on all of the packages.
> >
> > If you are still using the stock rpmdrake you need to manually download
> > and install the lastest release from cooker: rpmdrake-1.3-106mdk.i586.rpm
> > I usually have good results from this site:
> > ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
> >
> > Once you have it installed you should not have any problem adding a
> > Cooker source.
> >
> > Or if you prefer you can manually also dl the XFree rpms into a special
> > directory such as /home/jon/xfree.
> > Once you have dled all the rpms you need, cd to /home/jon/xfree, su to
> > root and rpm -Uvh *rpm and this will install all the rpms residing in
> > that directory.
> >
> >
> >Charles
>
> Well that just blew things up...lol Broke the netowrk connection. Ended up
> having to reinstall 8.1. I did notice that Auruor or whatever it is called
> is installed by default. I choise not to install it and I guess we will see
> what happens now. Thanks for your help though.



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[newbie] kde 2.2.2 slooooow

2001-12-01 Thread Matt Greer

I just upgraded from kde 2.2.1 to 2.2.2. The install went very smoothly. I 
downloaded the mandrake i586 rpms from kde's ftp site. I only had two failed 
dependencies which I fixed, and then did "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" from the directory 
they were in (kde was not running at the time) and away it went.

When I returned to kde I found it to be really slow. Kmail isn't so bad, and 
non webbrowsing konqueror is ok, but kdevelop and web browsing konqueror are 
incredibly slow. Kdevelop takes a good 5 minutes to shut down, and about a 
minute to do anything (say switch to a different document). Generally 
speaking any k apps are slower than they used to be.

I'll be reinstalling Mandrake 8.1 tonight, as that's the only way I know of 
to go back to 2.2.1 and be sure of no problems. But if anyone has any ideas, 
I'm all ears.

Fortunately I backed up everything before attempting 2.2.2.

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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall

"Mr. Eds Brittanys" wrote:

> Is it safe to delete most everything in the /tmp directorys?
> And what else is safe to delete to free up space?

You can set things so that /tmp is cleaned out everytime you boot up. Thats
what I do...

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Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH

2001-12-01 Thread dfox

> I have stopped putting my digital signature on all emails to the list.
> For whatever reason, Evolution insists on signing emails as an

Dave, 

I wasn't directing this message at you personally, but your message was
just a catalyst for me to vent :) Sorry. I didn't see your messages in
particular - it's just that the message.footer is making my screen jump
and stuff with this new elm.

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Re: [newbie] taking screenshots / what programs using how muchmemory

2001-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall

tek1 wrote:

> wow!  that is a great program!  thanks!  it would be neat to also be able
> to save as .jpg, but i guess that many of the graphic converters out there
> could easily do it.  can you recommend any?  thanks again!  :)

Same program. Does JPG just fine...where it defaults to ".png" put your cursor
there and back over it, rewrite it as .jpg, and it will save it to .jpg! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] .directory question...

2001-12-01 Thread Matt Greer

For what it's worth this problem 
is addressed in KDE 2.2.2. It's part of the bug fixes listed at

http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelog2_2_1to2_2_2.html

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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread dfox

> Your best bet is to reinstall. Next time giving / a lot more 
> space, and /home a lot less.  OR, just avoid the issue altogether and 

I'd have to disagree. Look at the df report - she only has 3% used in
/home. Sure, home could be lessened but I don't think that's the issue here.
525megs (what is left on /) should be enough space and I doubt the login
problem is an issue. What could be at issue is not enough inodes if a
particular file can't be created during a login process, or maybe per-
missions (one reason to wonder if she could log in as root but not as
a regular user).

> install everything in one big / .   You could do this on hda7 and 

Not a very good idea. That could lead to lots of problems. One should at
least segregate /home onto another partition, and it makes good sense
to have multiple partitions. A drawback of course to that approach is that
the new person doesn't really have a good idea of the space requirements
for the various partitions. Having separate partitions facilitates upgrading
too - I can keep my local stuff out of the way of Mandrake for instance.

> keep hda5 for storing backups of /home and other stuff.  Good setup 
> for a single user desktop.

I went for a rather large / for that reason, and it's a good one. Saves
wear and tear on the tape drive :). In converting over to reiserfs there's
enough room to tar up a 5gig /home among other things :).

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Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH

2001-12-01 Thread Dave Sherman

On Sat, 2001-12-01 at 13:34, dfox wrote:
> > >Attachment converted: Big Foot:Untitled 9 (/) (0003801F)
> > Can you shut off the attachments that go out with your posts to the 
> > Mandrake Newbie list?  My drive is getting littered with these files 

I have stopped putting my digital signature on all emails to the list.
For whatever reason, Evolution insists on signing emails as an
attachment, rather than just including the appropriate text within the
message like kmail does.

> A big ditto as far as message.footer is concerned. PLEASE PLEASE rethink
> this as a .signature rather than an attachment. It's not all that big
> of a deal -- at least it didn't use to be - but in 8.1 with its new
> elm - it interferes a lot, unless elm can be reconfigured not to see every
> message from that list as having an attachment.

That message.footer is from the list server, not me.

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Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH

2001-12-01 Thread dfox

> >Attachment converted: Big Foot:Untitled 9 (/) (0003801F)
> Can you shut off the attachments that go out with your posts to the 
> Mandrake Newbie list?  My drive is getting littered with these files 

A big ditto as far as message.footer is concerned. PLEASE PLEASE rethink
this as a .signature rather than an attachment. It's not all that big
of a deal -- at least it didn't use to be - but in 8.1 with its new
elm - it interferes a lot, unless elm can be reconfigured not to see every
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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread dfox

> I did it this time. I couldn't log in this morning at all. Rec. the msg:
> exited with non-zero status
> Please contact your system administrator.

Yeah, did you ring yourself up? :)

Looking briefly at your 'df' report, there *should* be enough space so 
that the message should not appear - I don't think that the message in
itself is space related. Your / is at 84% which is all right; if it was
at 100% I'd panic. Were you able to login as root and not as a user? The
system does leave some space reserved as root just for cases like this.

> file and not being able to access DrakConf and I can email again so they
> were all related afterall.

If you have a rather large inbox you need space in order to store a 
backup copy of it, depending on what mail reader you use. That may not
be of issue here but it's something I run up against from time to time when
I use 'elm'.

A general tip - you can use 'du' on parts of your / filesystem to find out
where the space is being used, and then attempt to figure out what to get
rid of. 


> And what else is safe to delete to free up space?

Well, /tmp is all right - some stuff in there are sockets for X and
other things (orbit-root etc) and those don't take up any space. You
shouldn't have a whole lot of stuff in /tmp (again use 'du /tmp' to 
see where the usage is). /var is also a good choice for pruning logs, but
the system usually takes care of that for you - although in one recent
instance, when I was installing a corrupt copy of StarOffice 6, my
/var partition filled all the way up because of a runaway logging process :(.

How did yuo install Mandrake? Did you select everything, or did you use a
smaller subset of 'everything'? If you did 'everything' there are a few
things you can remove safely, such as documentation, since you can
read the docs on the CDs. Back when I was running redhat, I found loads
of different Howto's and other documents in different languages, and in
different formats (dvi, ps, html, etc.) and that was a waste of disk
resources. I managed to free up over 60 megs of stuff by getting rid of
that stuff.
 
> This is what I have:
> /dev/hda5 3.4G  2.7G  525M  84% / 

525megs should be enough room left over and that doesn't count the
reserved space. (If you are using ext2 it reserves 5% of space for
the root user. If you are using reiserfs, I don't know what its defaults
are, if any. But on such a large volume, 5% may be excessive, and you can
lower that percentage with 'tunefs'.)







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[newbie] Postfix

2001-12-01 Thread Mark Lucas

Can anyone tell me how I can get Postfix to send my mail properly.

I have added the name of my ISP SMTP server. My internet connection is via
an ISDN router on my network.

What I would like to do is get Postfix to send mail (assuming it has some
queued) every hour or so. Also it would be good if I could configure it to
send mail immediately if a high priority email is to be sent.

I am using Outlook Express on a W2K machine as my email client.

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Re: [newbie] upgrading 8.0 to 8.1

2001-12-01 Thread dfox

> I got KDE2.2.2 installed!
> I used linuxconf to do the install. You can specify to install all of the 
> rpms in a given directory. After downloading all of the files and 

I had no real problems upgrading to kde2.2.2 after I found that going to
the KDE ftp site and getting the 2.2.2 rpms was a better idea than 
getting the 2.2.2 rpms off of a cooker mirror as I had originally tried.

I just recently did a new hd install of 8.1, after having 7.2 in place
for nearly a year :). The download did take a while, even though I have
DSL. But I had already installed KDE from 8.1, so the upgrade wasn't
all that hard -- doing it manually though. One just has to install or 
upgrade the components in the proper order, and it helps to install or 
upgrade the dependents (such as libraries) first before upgrading the
other components, and to install the base and devel packages together (or
you get mutual dependency problems).

I even did some upgrading via the package manager (uprmi or whatever
it's called.) It's n ok tool but I still see issues with dependencies (you
d/l a package, find out that it needs something else, so you go and d/l
that too ad infinitum). And in one instance it gobbled up all my RAM and 
nearly all my swap (256m/300+ of swap) :(.

And I'm (finally) convering my filesystems to reiserfs :)

> Grant



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RE: [newbie] Modem & LAN connections in the same box

2001-12-01 Thread Jose M. Sanchez

Kppp bypasses the normal configuration scripts used by LM8.1.

You should can KPPP in this situation and enable all of the modules in
Linuxconf.

Then use Linuxconf to set up your internet connection.

Once done set up your LAN (if you are having problems) using Linuxconf.

-JMS


|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of lee
|Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 1:31 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: [newbie] Modem & LAN connections in the same box
|
|
|hi folks,
|
|I've got a box here with a modem connecting kppp(which works 
|fine) and an nic 
|card(2 actually..1 is mb integrated). I can surf fine via 
|kppp.  I can ping 
|the proxy(and vice versa) but no other requests go thru..using 
|squid as the 
|software. I can post whaever files that might help the wise 
|ones on here help 
|me.
|
|thank you all for your time,,hava great wknd all.
|
|Lee
|
|
|




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Re: [newbie] Cable modem setup

2001-12-01 Thread Matt Paddock

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 01:29 pm, you wrote:

> > Well, I'm new to linux here, and finally settled with Mandrake after
> > trying many different ones.  However, I seem to have gotten stuck on my
> > cable modem configuration. I have att@home and should be using dhcp to
> > obtain my ip address.  Basically what happens after I stop and restart
> > the netowrk is getting the IP address fails.  Any help with this would be
> > much appreciated.
>
> @home gave you an ID number. It's in the form of Cxxx-A. In windows
> this is the name of your computer (control panel -> network -> identity
> tab).
>
> In linux, set that as your host name, use dhcp, and your cable modem should
> fire right up.
>
> The easiest way to set the host name is to go into mandrake control center,
> then network->connection->configure.
>
> the only downside is your bash prompt will be [user@cxxx-a user]$,
> although there's surely ways to change that.

There's a still easier way to specify this.

Travel to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts

Edit your ifcfg-eth0 file to include (at the top) the line

DHCP_HOSTNAME=cx{your details here]-a

This worked fine for me, and avoids the silly hostname prompt.

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Re: [newbie] KDE Died (The Blue Screen of Death)..... why?

2001-12-01 Thread Carlos Arigós


Hi Rob and Ed! I'm not an expert, but I have solved that problem deleting 
two files in /home/user: DCOPserver:localhost.localdomain and 
DCOPserver:localhost.localdomain_:0 

I don't know why, but works.

Carlos


> in that users home directory, you should have a hidden file (got a "." in
> fornt) called ".kderc" as I recall (and this is from memeory) this file can
> be removed (in a text console, Su to root, type cd "/home/username" (where
> username is the name of the user with the problem,  "ls -all" without the
> quotes, and then if the file is there, "rm .kderc" you should be able to
> then restart x or login as that user and the kderc file will be
> "regenerated".
>
> On Saturday 01 December 2001 01:48, you wrote:
> > for the 2nd time since I have installed mandrake 8.1, kde fails to
> > loads.  I see the box and it stalls on the mechanical icon and it just
> > wont go to the next icon which is the keyboard and mouse icon.  then it
> > just disappear and the only thing I see is a solid light blue color on
> > the screen.  no taskbar, no icons, nothing works.   sadly  I had to
> > switch to gnome which I really dont like.  The first time, there seems
> > to be no hope on having kde back especially with my user name.  KDE
> > works in root or other username.  Maybe I just have too many things in
> > my home directory that it causes KDE to corrupt only in that directory.
> >   I had to create a new username and copy all the stuff I had saved and
> > do more works as I had done with this one.  works fine for the next
> > month or two  then I get this blue screen again.  There a dead serious
> > bug somewhere that causes this.  Has anyone experienced this?  If so do
> > know why it did this and what is the solution to prevent it from
> > happening again?  Any help would be appreciate.
> >
> > Rob



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[newbie] Modem & LAN connections in the same box

2001-12-01 Thread lee

hi folks,

I've got a box here with a modem connecting kppp(which works fine) and an nic 
card(2 actually..1 is mb integrated). I can surf fine via kppp.  I can ping 
the proxy(and vice versa) but no other requests go thru..using squid as the 
software. I can post whaever files that might help the wise ones on here help 
me.

thank you all for your time,,hava great wknd all.

Lee




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Re: [newbie] How to set up the floppy drive?

2001-12-01 Thread Dennis Myers

On Saturday 01 December 2001 10:06, you wrote:
> I'm having to use the floppy drive for the first time since I
> set up Mandrake 8.1 a month and a half ago. The problem is that
> it doesn't seem to be automatically mounted and I can't mount it
> myself. I'm not even sure how it's supposed to be done in the
> first place. I've tried
>
> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy (-> /dev/fd0: unknown device)
> mount -t msdos /dev/floppy /mnt/floppy (-> /dev/floppy is not a block
> device) mount -t msdos /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy (-> /dev/floppy/0: unknown
> device)
>
> and HardDrake doesn't let me do anything with the floppy drive.
> What gives?
>
>
> +Cinquo
The floppy should have been seen on install, so ,  to mount it just type:
"mount  /mnt/floppy"  without the quotes and it should kick in. If you use 
KDE desktop you can right click on the icon and you will see Mount or unmount 
in the drop down list,  also remember to  "umount/mnt/floppy" when you 
are done so that the next time you stick one in it will run.  HTH

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[newbie] How to set up the floppy drive?

2001-12-01 Thread Ville V Sinkko



I'm having to use the floppy drive for the first time since I
set up Mandrake 8.1 a month and a half ago. The problem is that
it doesn't seem to be automatically mounted and I can't mount it
myself. I'm not even sure how it's supposed to be done in the
first place. I've tried

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy (-> /dev/fd0: unknown device)
mount -t msdos /dev/floppy /mnt/floppy (-> /dev/floppy is not a block device)
mount -t msdos /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy (-> /dev/floppy/0: unknown device)

and HardDrake doesn't let me do anything with the floppy drive.
What gives?


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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread Michael Viron

>Is it safe to delete most everything in the /tmp directorys?
>And what else is safe to delete to free up space?
>
>This is what I have:
>/dev/hda5 3.4G  2.7G  525M  84% / 
>/dev/hda7  14G  361M   13G   3% /home 
>/dev/hda1  19G  6.4G   13G  33% /mnt/windows
>
>Taking the advice of Michael:
>> If any % is higher than about 75-80%, it's usually 
>> time to take a look to see where you can free up some room.
>
>I would like to lower that 84% somehow. What options do I have?
>
>Thanks a ton. This list has been a life saver.
>
>Lori

There are a few places to look, most of /tmp can be cleaned out (except
files pertaining to X, since if you are running X, and you delete those
files, X might lockup), you can also look in /var/log (anything with .gz or
.1, .2, .3, etc can be removed), and also in /var/spool/mail (since there
are a lot of things that root will receive from cron jobs that occur
periodically).

Michael

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Re: [newbie] How to find Space on HD?

2001-12-01 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday 01 December 2001 01:04 am, Mr. Eds Brittanys wrote:
> I did it this time. I couldn't log in this morning at all. Rec. the
> msg: exited with non-zero status
> Please contact your system administrator.
>
> I guess I'm the sys admin and since I don't know anything, it was
> time to panic.

> This is what I have:
> /dev/hda5 3.4G  2.7G  525M  84% /
> /dev/hda7  14G  361M   13G   3% /home
> /dev/hda1  19G  6.4G   13G  33% /mnt/windows

>Lori

Your best bet is to reinstall. Next time giving / a lot more 
space, and /home a lot less.  OR, just avoid the issue altogether and 
install everything in one big / .   You could do this on hda7 and 
keep hda5 for storing backups of /home and other stuff.  Good setup 
for a single user desktop.
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Re: [newbie] taking screenshots / what programs using how much memory

2001-12-01 Thread John Layt

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 04:04, you wrote:
> At 00:31 01/12/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >On Friday 30 November 2001 10:23 am, you wrote:
> > > taking screenshots
> > > 
> > >
> > > can anyone describe briefly how you take screenshots in xwindows?
> >
> >If you're using KDE then ksnapshot is pretty nice. It's in the K menu at
> >multimedia -> graphics -> Screen capture
>
> wow!  that is a great program!  thanks!  it would be neat to also be able
> to save as .jpg, but i guess that many of the graphic converters out there
> could easily do it.  can you recommend any?  thanks again!  :)
>

Just try typing the file name you want to save with .jpg on the end.  KDE is 
smart enough to know what format to save based on the suffix.  PNG is just 
the default.

John.



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Re: [newbie] taking screenshots / what programs using how much memory

2001-12-01 Thread Len Lawrence

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, tek1 wrote:

> At 00:31 01/12/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >On Friday 30 November 2001 10:23 am, you wrote:
> > > taking screenshots
> > > 
> > >
> > > can anyone describe briefly how you take screenshots in xwindows?
> >
> >If you're using KDE then ksnapshot is pretty nice. It's in the K menu at
> >multimedia -> graphics -> Screen capture
>
> wow!  that is a great program!  thanks!  it would be neat to also be able
> to save as .jpg, but i guess that many of the graphic converters out there
> could easily do it.  can you recommend any?  thanks again!  :)

ImageMagick should work.  The import command allows you to
specify output format and either a window or a region - left
click on window or root window or click and drag for screen
region.
e.g.  import thatwindow.jpg
  import thescreen.gif
  import abitofhtescreen.png
-- 
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Re: [newbie] KDE Died (The Blue Screen of Death)..... why?

2001-12-01 Thread Ed Tharp

in that users home directory, you should have a hidden file (got a "." in 
fornt) called ".kderc" as I recall (and this is from memeory) this file can 
be removed (in a text console, Su to root, type cd "/home/username" (where 
username is the name of the user with the problem,  "ls -all" without the 
quotes, and then if the file is there, "rm .kderc" you should be able to then 
restart x or login as that user and the kderc file will be "regenerated".

On Saturday 01 December 2001 01:48, you wrote:
> for the 2nd time since I have installed mandrake 8.1, kde fails to
> loads.  I see the box and it stalls on the mechanical icon and it just
> wont go to the next icon which is the keyboard and mouse icon.  then it
> just disappear and the only thing I see is a solid light blue color on
> the screen.  no taskbar, no icons, nothing works.   sadly  I had to
> switch to gnome which I really dont like.  The first time, there seems
> to be no hope on having kde back especially with my user name.  KDE
> works in root or other username.  Maybe I just have too many things in
> my home directory that it causes KDE to corrupt only in that directory.
>   I had to create a new username and copy all the stuff I had saved and
> do more works as I had done with this one.  works fine for the next
> month or two  then I get this blue screen again.  There a dead serious
> bug somewhere that causes this.  Has anyone experienced this?  If so do
> know why it did this and what is the solution to prevent it from
> happening again?  Any help would be appreciate.
>
> Rob



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Re: [newbie] taking screenshots / what programs using how much memory

2001-12-01 Thread Michel Clasquin

On Saturday 01 December 2001 09:46, Brendan wrote:

> Try this:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> wait=5
> dir=$HOME


Awesome!



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Re: [newbie] can't find qt when compiling theme

2001-12-01 Thread Frans Ketelaars

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:51:05 -0800
ajax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm trying to compile a couple of themes under mandrake8.1  
> I keep getting an error saying it can't find Qt.  I assume its installed 
> since I'm running kde.  I've tried the suggested prefix and a couple of 
> others. Any ideas?

I think you also need the devel .rpm:

[frans@amd frans]$ rpm -qa | grep qt
libqt2-devel-2.3.1-14mdk
libqt2-2.3.1-14mdk
[frans@amd frans]$

-Frans



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