[newbie] 7.2 ISO's

[Nelson Bartley]

Hi Guys,

I'm looking for an old copy of the 7.2 ISO's. I've tried repeatedly to
install 8.0 and 8.1 on my antique beast(133/64MB), however it will only
install w/ the 2.2 kernel (it WILL NOT boot the 2.4 worth crap). Now I
can get it to install and boot 2.2 but as most of the packages have been
optimized for 2.4, as has the install, it does not work that well. 

If anyone knows where I can grab a copy of 7.2 I would greatly
appreciate it.

Nelson
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Re: [newbie] Hotline

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:14:41 -0500, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 10:03:28PM -0800, E Estes wrote:
> > I'm not sure if anyone is familiar with the program hotline. I was wondering
> > if there was a Linux version of this available for download? I did a search
> > online and didn't find anything.
> 
> http://gtkhx.sourceforge.net/links.html
> 
> Or,
> 
> http://synhxd.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Or,
> 
> http://hx.fortyoz.org/
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stephen

Also: http://fidelio.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Terry Smith]

Doug,

The new Star Office 6.0 beta is worth looking at. It's a full office
suite, MS Office compatible and not as overstuffed at Star Office 5.2
(which is probably on your distribtion). You can grab it from the Sun
site.

Terry Smith
Hatchville, MA

On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 12:22, Doug Lerner wrote:
> What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
> Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
> 
> Spreadsheets
> Word Processing
> PowerPoint Presentations
> 
> What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That
> package looks unbelievable for $49!
> 
> How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not
> seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right?
> 
> doug
> 
> 
> 
> 
> =_1009214578-11608-1432
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RE: [newbie] Apache, PHP and MySQL problem

[Dennis Herndon]

You will need to do a grant all to the new user that you want to create.
Also look at the 'mysql' database and tables.   "USE mysql", "show tables;"
then "select * from user;"  and you can see what the protection settings are
at.

You might need to delete the first record in the USER table.

I'm using mysql with PHP and Apache and went through this same horror.

-Original Message-
From: Neil R Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 16:15
To: Linux Newbie List
Subject: [newbie] Apache, PHP and MySQL problem


Hi All

I've got LM8.1 up and running and I have np using apache as a test
server on there along with php.  However, MySQL is loaded (I chose it to
be) but it doesn't work in the way I want it to.  First off, I can
create a database but only as root.  Since I want to interogate/update
etc using php on webpages served by apache then I need it to not require
root.

I've been to the MySQL site but can't seem to find out how to do it...
Eek.  Also, I've moved the default location for html files to my home
directory so I can work on them on the fly on my workstation machine;
don't know if this is an issue with this?  Is there a MySQL conf file
somewhere that I'm missing?  I've trawled through the apache ones and
they seem fine.

Thanks for any help... I just hope there are some people out there
who've had this requirement and got it going... Experienced help is what
I need I think :(

Ta

Neil

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Re: [newbie] A bit dangerous?

[Doug Lerner]

Not really. But then again Mac OS 9 does the same thing. You can click on
any partition on the Desktop and then choose "Initialize" from the
Special Menu and without a single word or warning the partition is
initialized!

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

>On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Doug Lerner wrote:
>
>> Maybe a warning dialog first like: "This will delete your entire
>> partition and all your data will be lost. OK?"
>>
>> Call me crazy, but if I accidently hit the wrong button I would like at
>> least one chance to take something like that back. :-)
>
>
>I think you actually still can at that point - just so long as you haven't
>actually hit "Done." And when you do this, you get a pop-up saying that
>it's going to write new partitioning scheme to disk. So, there you go.
>Feel a little more secure now? ;-)
>
>
>>
>> doug
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):
>>
>> >On Monday 24 December 2001 16:58, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I started with two partitions on my hard drive: one for Windows 98 and
>> >> one for Windows 2000. I decided I could get along with just the Windows
>> >> 2000 partition and so at the partitioning stage I clicked on the Windows
>> >> 98 partition, selected delete and then auto-allocate.
>> >
>> >What exactly do you expect will happen when you select an option called
>> >"delete"? Maybe ... that that particular partition will be deleted?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa)
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>> >This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
>> >
>> >f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Doug Lerner]

Thanks, Steven. Well, everybody seems quite psyched abotu OpenOffice and
StarOffice. I will give those a try. Nobody seems to mention Hancom
Office. Has anybody tried them? Of course free is nice, but I am not a
fanatic about not purchasing software - particularly if it is nice. I
think the success of Linux will depend on people being able to support
themselves by developing it, and developing applications for it. 

Of course I am speaking as somebody who works for a company that makes
software that runs on Linux, Mac and Windows. :-)

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

>On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 02:22:58AM +0900, Doug Lerner wrote:
>> What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
>> Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
>> 
>> Spreadsheets
>> Word Processing
>> PowerPoint Presentations
>> 
>> What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That
>> package looks unbelievable for $49!
>> 
>> How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not
>> seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right?
>
>Doug, congrats on the successful install. I've used MacOS for years and
>also use MacOS X. However I've been drifting away from Apple the last
>few years as I don't particularly like their way of doing things. As
>far as I'm concerned they're not much different than M$ and would love
>to be in M$ position marketwise. Properietary OS'es suck wind!
>
>Anyway, in terms of office suites for Linux there are several. Abisuite,
>KOffice, OpenOffice and StarOffice. The latter two are from Sun and
>IMHO both put M$ Office in it's place and...the price is damn good -
>free.
>
>I installed the latest OpenOffice binary this past weekend. I'm
>impressed - I've been using StarOffice v 5.x previously.
>
>In case you haven't heard of it, let me introduce you to
> Linux's version of VersionTracker. To find the apps
>I mentioned, go there and use the search facility.
>
>Merry Christmas!
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
>
>Stephen
>
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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Doug Lerner]

Thanks, Lanman. I will try that out.

And thanks for the hint about the Java Runtime Environment. I tried to
access a web page in Konqueror that had an applet on it and was surprised
to see that Java was not part of the standard install. It would be nice
if it was! (One less stumbling block for people.)

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

>Doug ; Try Star Office 6.0 Beta (it's a Beta but very stable!) at 
>www.sun.com
>
>or better yet, try Openoffice at
>www.openoffice.org
>
>get the 641b version for Linux and/or Windows.  Includes full compatibility 
>for MS Office XP ! and it's totally FREE ! In Either case, make sure
that you 
>get a Java Runtime Environment package running before you install the office 
>suite. You'll want j2re - 1.3.1  for either Windows or Linux. Get that at
>
>www.java.sun.com
>
>We've been using it at the office for months without a problem on 37 PC's.
>
>Lanman
>P.S. Merry Christmas !
>
>
>
>On Monday 24 December 2001 12:22 pm, you wrote:
>> What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
>> Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
>>
>> Spreadsheets
>> Word Processing
>> PowerPoint Presentations
>>
>> What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That
>> package looks unbelievable for $49!
>>
>> How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not
>> seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right?
>>
>> doug
>
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Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...

[Doug Lerner]

Some people say a lot of Linux people are leaving Linux for OS X. Have
you heard anything about that? I use OS X in my daily work, and it is
nice, but I am also interested in Linux for (1) less dependency on one
company (Apple) and (2) cost (you can have lots of machines relatively
inexpensively) and also Linux seems faster than either Windows or OS X. 

Of course the "polished application" base of both Mac and Windows is
still better.

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

>On Monday 24 December 2001 12:47, you wrote:
>> On Monday 24 December 2001 11:13 am, you wrote:
>> > Now that I found a nice OS and a nice group of people to talk about
>> > technical issues in Mandrake Linux I am wondering - how is the market
>> > share of Linux coming along? Growing? Is OS X having good/bad effects on
>> > Linux?
>> >
>> > doug
>>
>> Well, it took a nose dive a while back, but it bounced back up to bout
>> where it was when it was first offered.  But I kinda expect it to start
>> going up now.  Didn't you  hear about the ibm deal?
>>
>> -s
>Actually the "market share" is increasing and I expect it to hit a critical 
>mass and really take off, but for now it seems to be encroaching more on the 
>unix shares than the Microsoft or Apple shares.  Time will tell, especially 
>with the M$ fee structure and the way the software is making a lot of folks 
>unhappy. Just my $.02, 
>-- 
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>
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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

[Doug Lerner]

I went to Control Center > Boot > Boot Config, but Windows was already
there. Clicking on "Modify" for that entry didn't really seem to indicate
anything wrong - it was still specified as being on the second partition,
which is where it is...

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):

>On Monday 24 December 2001 12:28, you wrote:
>> Hmmm...
>>
>> Mandrake Linux 8.1 is working fine, but if I restart the machine and
>> choose "windows" at the startup screen, my Windows 2000 parition won't
>> load.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to what I might try?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
>I think you just need to give the lilo a little more help. Go into the 
>Mandrake Control Center, (icon on the KDE Desktop or the start button "K" 
>>configuration>other>Mandrake Control Center.  Give your root password, Then 
>click on the  + sign on "Boot" then boot config. Check the screen over to 
>familiarize yourself with what is there, and then click on the box in the 
>upper right that says configure. It will pop up a screen with the boot
loader 
>choice you saw at install, click "ok", then in the next screen click on
"add" 
>and you will have a choice of linux or windows, choosing windows takes you 
>into the setup screen for your windows stuff and from there it should be
self 
>explanatory. HTH
>
>
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>
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[newbie] mjpegtools, vcdgear, avifiles in mandrake

[L.V.Gandhi]

Whether mjpegtools, vcdgear, avifiles are available as mandrake 8.1 RPMs?
I have seen vcdimager also a old version in the distro 8.1. Where can I get 
latest mandrake vcdimager RPM. I searched in cooker but could not find. Can I 
get exact cooker site address for searching latest rpms.
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Re: [newbie] dependency tree

[Michael Viron]

>just like that? but what if "it" can't find them? then what? you're still
the same place you were before. In the dark without a clue as to why.
>
>no thanks. I'd rather "know" why something isn't working and then learn
and know how to fix it rather then let the software do all my thinking for
me. 
urpmi is not a graphical based client.  This means that any error messages
will get dumped to the screen, which means that you'll see them.  I can't
imagine why it wouldn't be able to find the dependency rpms for you, since
it has access to the ftp copies of the install (ie, all 2 - 3,000 rpms),
unless perhaps it is a not a standard Mandrake rpm.

Michael

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Re: [newbie] Cron ???

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 14:12:32 +0800, "SKLIM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [root@smtp /root]# cat /var/spool/cron/root
> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
> # (/tmp/crontab.8868 installed on Mon Dec 24 10:11:33 2001)
> # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $)
> 
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> PATH=/usr/bin
> MAILTO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
> 0 9 * * 1-6 $PATH/killall fetchmail
> 0 9 * * 1-6 $PATH/fetchmail -d 300
> 
> 0 17 * * 1-6 $PATH/killall fetchmail
> 0 17 * * 1-6 $PATH/fetchmail -d 3600
> 
> 
> Hi! above is my cron setting ..I create .. But it does not work ...?
> Can someone help me ...what is my mistake ... ?
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> SKLIM
> +6012 391 3638

You may want to try a graphical app like kcron. It can be much easier that way.

-- 
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Windows - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell
for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system
originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor,
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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas]

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Doug Lerner wrote:

>What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
>Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
>Spreadsheets
>Word Processing
>PowerPoint Presentations

Star Office, no doubt!
>
>What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That
>package looks unbelievable for $49!

I've tried Hancom some time ago but, the word processor runs under wine.
It's lightning fast!
But I could not try the 'compatibility' when you have to exchange files
with the *.doc extension!


>How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not
>seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right?

I don't like them!

But if you still need some japanese... Hamcon comes with it! Plus 2 levels
of korean and 2 of chinese!!

Ricardo Castanho

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Re: [Re: [newbie] cant connect to apache, ssh,ftp or telnet from network]

[Grant Fraser]

One more thing. Is ssh running? Try opening a console and log in as root. type
service sshd start
see if sshd is part of your boot up process.

On Monday 24 December 2001 15:19, you wrote:
> Try this:
> In your bastille-firewall.cfg file add ssh to your INTERNAL_INTERFACES=
> part. Just keep re-reading the notes until you think you got it. In order
> to enable ssh and port 22 to be seen on the internet I added "22+ ssh+" to
> the trusted intefaces. There is a whole Q&A section at the bottom as well.
>
>
> TRUSTED_IFACES="lo"
> PUBLIC_IFACES="eth+ ppp+ slip+"
> INTERNAL_IFACES="eth0+ ssh+"
>
> On Monday 24 December 2001 06:15, you wrote:
> > Some further information on this problem.
> >
> > There are no entries in either the /etc/hosts.deny or hosts.allow files.
> > So this isnt causing the problem.
> >
> > I can perform an iptables -F and then set all the default policies back
> > to accept and everything works fine. Of course this leaves me with no
> > firewall too. So it looks like it is some firewalling rule that is
> > causing the problem.
> >
> > I attached a copy of my bastille-firewall.cfg file to see if anyone sees
> > a problem with it. I don't see anything in there that could be causing
> > this.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ian K. Harrell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Dragon ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Try this, I couldn't connect with SSH from anywhere and I swore up and
> >
> > down
> >
> > > that Bastille was setup correctly.  Look in the hosts.deny file.  I
> >
> > found an
> >
> > > entry with ALL:ALL...  I deleted that line and everything worked fine.
> >
> >  I
> >
> > > could still browse to FTP and HTTP when the line was there but I
> >
> > couldn't
> >
> > > connect via SSH.  Its another place to look.
> > >
> > > From: "Ian K.Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [newbie] cant connect to apache, ssh, ftp or telnet from
> >
> > network
> >
> > > Date: 21 Dec 2001 09:42:11 EST
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I installed 8.1 the other day. (3 disc set from cheapbytes). Then use
> > > Interactive Bastille to configure firewalling, internet masquerading
> >
> > and
> >
> > > basic system security.
> > >
> > > The problem is that while i can connect to the machine locally
> > > (http://localhost) noone can connect to it over the lan with either
> > > telnet, ssh, ftp or http. These servers are running and I told Bastille
> > > to leave these ports open to the internal network.
> > >
> > > On the public network i left ssh and 80 open so i could connect in over
> > > the web from home and so we could host a small company web site. Still
> > > noone can connect to them from the internet BUT i went to www.grc.com
> > > and ran the port probe and it showed the ports as being open. This
> >
> > makes
> >
> > > me wonder if it is a firewall rule that Bastille put in there or is
> > > there something else going on?
> > >
> > > Right now the only thing that is working over the lan is internet
> > > masquerading.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > > Ian K. Harrell
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _
> > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
> >
> > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
> >
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Re: [newbie]

[Marek]

 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:36 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] 
  
   
  
  
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Re: [Re: [newbie] cant connect to apache, ssh,ftp or telnet from network]

[Grant Fraser]

Try this:
In your bastille-firewall.cfg file add ssh to your INTERNAL_INTERFACES= part. 
Just keep re-reading the notes until you think you got it. In order to enable 
ssh and port 22 to be seen on the internet I added "22+ ssh+" to the trusted 
intefaces. There is a whole Q&A section at the bottom as well.


TRUSTED_IFACES="lo"
PUBLIC_IFACES="eth+ ppp+ slip+"
INTERNAL_IFACES="eth0+ ssh+"

On Monday 24 December 2001 06:15, you wrote:
> Some further information on this problem.
>
> There are no entries in either the /etc/hosts.deny or hosts.allow files.
> So this isnt causing the problem.
>
> I can perform an iptables -F and then set all the default policies back
> to accept and everything works fine. Of course this leaves me with no
> firewall too. So it looks like it is some firewalling rule that is
> causing the problem.
>
> I attached a copy of my bastille-firewall.cfg file to see if anyone sees
> a problem with it. I don't see anything in there that could be causing
> this.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ian K. Harrell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Dragon ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try this, I couldn't connect with SSH from anywhere and I swore up and
>
> down
>
> > that Bastille was setup correctly.  Look in the hosts.deny file.  I
>
> found an
>
> > entry with ALL:ALL...  I deleted that line and everything worked fine.
>
>  I
>
> > could still browse to FTP and HTTP when the line was there but I
>
> couldn't
>
> > connect via SSH.  Its another place to look.
> >
> > From: "Ian K.Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [newbie] cant connect to apache, ssh, ftp or telnet from
>
> network
>
> > Date: 21 Dec 2001 09:42:11 EST
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I installed 8.1 the other day. (3 disc set from cheapbytes). Then use
> > Interactive Bastille to configure firewalling, internet masquerading
>
> and
>
> > basic system security.
> >
> > The problem is that while i can connect to the machine locally
> > (http://localhost) noone can connect to it over the lan with either
> > telnet, ssh, ftp or http. These servers are running and I told Bastille
> > to leave these ports open to the internal network.
> >
> > On the public network i left ssh and 80 open so i could connect in over
> > the web from home and so we could host a small company web site. Still
> > noone can connect to them from the internet BUT i went to www.grc.com
> > and ran the port probe and it showed the ports as being open. This
>
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>
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> > there something else going on?
> >
> > Right now the only thing that is working over the lan is internet
> > masquerading.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> > Ian K. Harrell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [newbie] Crash after applying updates

[Derek Jennings]

Try lookinging in /var/log/urpmi.log and the archives of urpmi.log

I wonder what could have caused the problem?
Let us know when you find out.


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On Monday 24 December 2001 22:10, Russ Kepler wrote:
> A couple of days ago I updated my Mandrake 8.1 from the mirrors at
> ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/8.1/RPMS using
> the Mandrake Update selection in the software manager.  Nothing in the
> kernel was changed as I was putting that off until later, but all the other
> updates were accepted.
>
> Since then, and possibly connected with that action, my system has become
> unstable, crashing 3 times since the update (as compared 0 times with 1.5
> months runtime before).  No hardware changes were applied aside from
> screwing in the video connector.  The crash is hard, nothing to do but
> reboot.  I've put a sync() in the background to sync the disks on a 5
> second interval to minimize damage and to try and get *something* in the
> syslog, but nothing comes up.
>
> If I could find the logs from the update I'll try and reverse the upgrades
> applied - anyone know where they're kept?  Short of that, anyone have any
> ideas?  It's a pretty standard MSI K7T mob with an Athlon 1.4 processor and
> an old Diamond Viper video - it's possible something's happened here but
> fairly unlikely to be intermittent.  I'd like to get the system stable
> before I leave on business, I'd hate to ask my wife to reboot the system
> daily while I'm gone...



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[newbie] Re: Re: SMTP Authentification (As A User)

[Allen Hernandez]

>>kmail

I'm using Kmail 1.2 on KDE 2.1.1 [LM 8.0 (2.4.3)].

Where's this feature Ed, I can't find a user/pass
textfield on any
SMTP-ish tab?
I get mail from pop.mail.yahoo...but I can only send
through smtp.mail.myisp.com .

I don't think 1.2 has it yet(??) , and the integration
with KControl doesn't
work(or at least I can't get it to work).

I don't want to upgrade coz everything's already
workin fine save
for outgoing mail.

Any other recommendations?
Can't I do SMTP auth using Postfix?

Thanks.
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[newbie] Re: Re: SMTP Authentification (As A User)

[Allen Hernandez]

>>kmail

I'm using Kmail 1.2 on KDE 2.1.1 [LM 8.0 (2.4.3)].

Where's this feature Ed, I can't find a user/pass
textfield on any
SMTP-ish tab?
I get mail from pop.mail.yahoo...but I can only send
through smtp.mail.myisp.com .

I don't think 1.2 has it yet(??) , and the integration
with KControl doesn't
work(or at least I can't get it to work).

I don't want to upgrade coz everything's already
workin fine save
for outgoing mail.

Any other recommendations?
Can't I do SMTP auth using Postfix?

Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] A bit dangerous?

[Grant Fraser]

There are two things I have noticed about Linux.

1) An inherent cheekiness in the documentation.
2) The assumption that you know what you are doing.

It has been said that with windows, it something doesnt work you can just 
keep poking buttons until you figure it out. With Linux that approach will 
result in a meltdown. Reading the manual is dull, unrecoverable errors are 
much more exciting.

On Monday 24 December 2001 12:25, you wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Doug Lerner wrote:
> > Maybe a warning dialog first like: "This will delete your entire
> > partition and all your data will be lost. OK?"
> >
> > Call me crazy, but if I accidently hit the wrong button I would like at
> > least one chance to take something like that back. :-)
>
> I think you actually still can at that point - just so long as you haven't
> actually hit "Done." And when you do this, you get a pop-up saying that
> it's going to write new partitioning scheme to disk. So, there you go.
> Feel a little more secure now? ;-)
>
> > doug
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):
> > >On Monday 24 December 2001 16:58, you wrote:
> > >> I started with two partitions on my hard drive: one for Windows 98 and
> > >> one for Windows 2000. I decided I could get along with just the
> > >> Windows 2000 partition and so at the partitioning stage I clicked on
> > >> the Windows 98 partition, selected delete and then auto-allocate.
> > >
> > >What exactly do you expect will happen when you select an option called
> > >"delete"? Maybe ... that that particular partition will be deleted?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa)
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za   http://www.geocities.com/clasqm
> > >This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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[newbie] Crash after applying updates

[Russ Kepler]

A couple of days ago I updated my Mandrake 8.1 from the mirrors at 
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/8.1/RPMS using 
the Mandrake Update selection in the software manager.  Nothing in the kernel 
was changed as I was putting that off until later, but all the other updates 
were accepted.  

Since then, and possibly connected with that action, my system has become 
unstable, crashing 3 times since the update (as compared 0 times with 1.5 
months runtime before).  No hardware changes were applied aside from screwing 
in the video connector.  The crash is hard, nothing to do but reboot.  I've 
put a sync() in the background to sync the disks on a 5 second interval to 
minimize damage and to try and get *something* in the syslog, but nothing 
comes up.

If I could find the logs from the update I'll try and reverse the upgrades 
applied - anyone know where they're kept?  Short of that, anyone have any 
ideas?  It's a pretty standard MSI K7T mob with an Athlon 1.4 processor and 
an old Diamond Viper video - it's possible something's happened here but 
fairly unlikely to be intermittent.  I'd like to get the system stable before 
I leave on business, I'd hate to ask my wife to reboot the system daily while 
I'm gone...



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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[kenn yahoo]

and, i know this is a long shot (please feel free to laugh at me for even
asking) but do any linux spreadsheets support VBA? i have an INCREDIBLE
collection of scripts I've written over the years, and i hate to give that
up when i go to linux?

what are my options?

thanks in advance, and merry christmas to everyone !

kennM



> At 02:22 AM 12/25/2001 +0900, Doug Lerner wrote:
> >What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
> >Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
> >
> >Spreadsheets
> >Word Processing
> >PowerPoint Presentations
> >
>
> Star Office 5.2 seems OK so far. So far, it reads Word documents and Excel
> spreadsheets OK.
>
>
>
>






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[newbie] ATI All-In-Wonder 128 Pro 32mg AGP

[Roger Sherman]

I'm in the process of building a PC, and I'm considering using this video
card. Any problems with that, that anyone knows of? This is going to be
for use with both 7.2 and 8.1, primarily 8.1.

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Re: Themes and Window Managers (was Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic")

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday 24 December 2001 02:35 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:

> ok...but what does one do when you "get" the theme and it doesn't
> have a themerc file in the tarball? theme no good...waste
> time...get frustrated cause theme no work. the one single thing I
> absolutely HATE about kde-2.x. the renowned theme support of the
> KDE desktop sucks in any version above kde-1.1.2. I just don't get
> it. The "why" of or the theme for that matter.

   Well, how do you really feel Mark?  ;>

   My solution is to get Mandrake rpms.  There's a how-to for the 
tarballs, but it's been too long and I don't remember where or what 
install'in .tgz themes involves. I seem to remember they're all 
sort'a different.  Anyhow, best places for themes are 

Penguin Liberation Front
   http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/linux/plf/
Texstar
   http://www.pclinuxonline.com

   Painless, just install the rpm's and they show up under the 
Control Center | Look'n Feel  options.  Like most, I really like
Liquid, but I use it with System++ decorations and different colors.
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3 logo

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday 24 December 2001 02:15 pm, LPH wrote:
> When KDE 3 starts up there is a really nice set of images.  Where
> are these images located?  I was looking in /opt/kde3 ... but
> couldn't find the opening set of images.  Anyone else tried to
> look?

   Ok, I used  Applications | File Tools | Find Files ... set it to 
search /opt/kde3/  and told it to look for *.png.  Came back with a 
sh!+load, mostly in /opt/kde3/share/. Might want'a 
start poke'n around there. Gqview would be a good tool.

   I wasn't too impressed with KDE3, and didn't think beta1 is 
worth the too many minor bug hassles to use on a daily basis. I 
didn't like the new eye candy all that much either. Back to 2.2.2 for 
me. I guess I'm just an old fuddy duddy ;>

   BTW, I found if you spend too much time in kde3, you're probly 
gonna need to --force --nodeps back in kde 2.2.x rpms, reset some 
things in kde2 apps (like kmail) as kde 3 is gonna corrupt some kde2 
stuff and configs, even tho you (like I did), put it in /opt.
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Re: Themes and Window Managers (was Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic")

[Dennis Myers]

On Monday 24 December 2001 14:35, you wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 02:09:34 +0900
>
> Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> > Thanks! It is after 2am here now, so I will try this tomorrow! :-)
> >
> > It seems that there is more available for KDE in general than for Gnome.
> > Is that true, or a mistaken newbie first impression?
> >
> > doug
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):
> > >If you are impressed by Mandrake and also like OS X then try installing
> > > the mosfet-liquid theme for KDE. It looks very much like OS X
> > >
> > >You can download it in a Mandrake RPM from the favorite files section of
> > >www.pclinuxonline.com
> > >Just click on the file name using konqueror and select 'Open' when
> > > prompted and it will install 'automagically'  Then use the KDE Control
> > >Center>LookNFeel section to configure it. (You have to set up 'Window
> > >Decoration', 'Style', and 'Colors' )
> > >
> > >There are also lots of other nice themes for KDE available. I do not
> >
> > know why
> >
> > >the default one is so plain.
>
> ok...but what does one do when you "get" the theme and it doesn't have a
> themerc file in the tarball? theme no good...waste time...get frustrated
> cause theme no work. the one single thing I absolutely HATE about kde-2.x.
> the renowned theme support of the KDE desktop sucks in any version above
> kde-1.1.2. I just don't get it. The "why" of or the theme for that matter.
For several of the themes I download them to my /home/dennis/themes directory 
and then in the directory add to the end of the file name, without untaring 
or anything, I add ".ktheme" and the theme manager seems to accept that. 
Don't  know how well it works for some of the new themes but for the KDE 2.1 
themes it worked for me.
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Re: [newbie] A bit dangerous?

[Roger Sherman]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Doug Lerner wrote:

> Maybe a warning dialog first like: "This will delete your entire
> partition and all your data will be lost. OK?"
>
> Call me crazy, but if I accidently hit the wrong button I would like at
> least one chance to take something like that back. :-)


I think you actually still can at that point - just so long as you haven't
actually hit "Done." And when you do this, you get a pop-up saying that
it's going to write new partitioning scheme to disk. So, there you go.
Feel a little more secure now? ;-)


>
> doug
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):
>
> >On Monday 24 December 2001 16:58, you wrote:
> >>
> >> I started with two partitions on my hard drive: one for Windows 98 and
> >> one for Windows 2000. I decided I could get along with just the Windows
> >> 2000 partition and so at the partitioning stage I clicked on the Windows
> >> 98 partition, selected delete and then auto-allocate.
> >
> >What exactly do you expect will happen when you select an option called
> >"delete"? Maybe ... that that particular partition will be deleted?
> >
> >--
> >Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa)
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za   http://www.geocities.com/clasqm
> >This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
> >
> >f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
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Re: [newbie] dependency tree

[Mark Weaver]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 06:51:01 +1100
"Richardson, Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to 
ponder:

> try man urpm. urpmi is a bit like apt-get for Debian, it will install your
> application and any dependancies as well. I think all rpm tools just tell
> you the dependancies, but urpmi will install the for you as well. 
> HTH Martin
> 

just like that? but what if "it" can't find them? then what? you're still the same 
place you were before. In the dark without a clue as to why.

no thanks. I'd rather "know" why something isn't working and then learn and know how 
to fix it rather then let the software do all my thinking for me. 
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RE: [newbie] dependency tree

[Richardson, Martin]

try man urpm. urpmi is a bit like apt-get for Debian, it will install your
application and any dependancies as well. I think all rpm tools just tell
you the dependancies, but urpmi will install the for you as well. 
HTH Martin

> -Original Message-
> From: Mohammed Arafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2001 23:23
> To: Mandrake Newbie List
> Subject: [newbie] dependency tree
> 
> 
> greetings
> i was just reading my backlog of mail from the list and i m 
> sorry to say
> that i have to agree (not totally but somewhat) with wendy on 
> something.
> 
> say u d/l abc.rpm which needs def.rpm which in turn needs ghi.rpm
> 
> so i was wondering ...
> a. how do i find out the dependency tree of a specific program?
> b. is there a program that lists these dependencies automatically?
> i ask the second q. coz tiem and again rpmdrake/kpackage 
> allows me to begin
> the install then says dependcies needed and then i have to waste time
> looking for that rpm. plus. some 1 mentioned auto d/l of dependencies.
> c. how do i enable autod/l?
> 
> thx
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Hotline

[Mithrilhall2000]

Thanks!


- Original Message -
From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Hotline


> On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 10:03:28PM -0800, E Estes wrote:
> > I'm not sure if anyone is familiar with the program hotline. I was
wondering
> > if there was a Linux version of this available for download? I did a
search
> > online and didn't find anything.
>
> http://gtkhx.sourceforge.net/links.html
>
> Or,
>
> http://synhxd.sourceforge.net/
>
> Or,
>
> http://hx.fortyoz.org/
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Stephen
>
>






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[newbie] KDE 3 logo

[LPH]

When KDE 3 starts up there is a really nice set of images.  Where are these 
images located?  I was looking in /opt/kde3 ... but couldn't find the opening 
set of images.  Anyone else tried to look?

Happy Holidays
Layne

P.S. Asked here simply because Mandrake supports the KDE project.  And KDE3 is 
installed on the Mandrake box :-)



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Re: Themes and Window Managers (was Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic")

[Mark Weaver]

On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 02:09:34 +0900
Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Thanks! It is after 2am here now, so I will try this tomorrow! :-)
> 
> It seems that there is more available for KDE in general than for Gnome.
> Is that true, or a mistaken newbie first impression?
> 
> doug
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001):
> 
> >If you are impressed by Mandrake and also like OS X then try installing the 
> >mosfet-liquid theme for KDE. It looks very much like OS X 
> >
> >You can download it in a Mandrake RPM from the favorite files section of 
> >www.pclinuxonline.com
> >Just click on the file name using konqueror and select 'Open' when prompted 
> >and it will install 'automagically'  Then use the KDE Control 
> >Center>LookNFeel section to configure it. (You have to set up 'Window 
> >Decoration', 'Style', and 'Colors' )
> >
> >There are also lots of other nice themes for KDE available. I do not
> know why 
> >the default one is so plain.

ok...but what does one do when you "get" the theme and it doesn't have a themerc file 
in the tarball? theme no good...waste time...get frustrated cause theme no work. the 
one single thing I absolutely HATE about kde-2.x. the renowned theme support of the 
KDE desktop sucks in any version above kde-1.1.2. I just don't get it. The "why" of or 
the theme for that matter.

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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Lee Roberts]

At 02:22 AM 12/25/2001 +0900, Doug Lerner wrote:
>What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
>Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
>
>Spreadsheets
>Word Processing
>PowerPoint Presentations
>

Star Office 5.2 seems OK so far. So far, it reads Word documents and Excel
spreadsheets OK.





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Re: [newbie] Philips Nino PDA ?

[Mafiajoe3]

hey,
i have the nino 500. i've tried to get it to connect but have not gotten it. ive even tried to use "wine" on the windoze connection program but it crashes. somehow i don't think the nino will ever connect w/ linux. the real good wuestion to ask is if anyone has ever put linux on the nino. i've seen it done on a compaq ipaq. but not on the nino



Joe

Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

[Dennis Myers]

On Monday 24 December 2001 12:28, you wrote:
> Hmmm...
>
> Mandrake Linux 8.1 is working fine, but if I restart the machine and
> choose "windows" at the startup screen, my Windows 2000 parition won't
> load.
>
> Any suggestions as to what I might try?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
I think you just need to give the lilo a little more help. Go into the 
Mandrake Control Center, (icon on the KDE Desktop or the start button "K" 
>configuration>other>Mandrake Control Center.  Give your root password, Then 
click on the  + sign on "Boot" then boot config. Check the screen over to 
familiarize yourself with what is there, and then click on the box in the 
upper right that says configure. It will pop up a screen with the boot loader 
choice you saw at install, click "ok", then in the next screen click on "add" 
and you will have a choice of linux or windows, choosing windows takes you 
into the setup screen for your windows stuff and from there it should be self 
explanatory. HTH


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Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...

[Dennis Myers]

On Monday 24 December 2001 12:47, you wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2001 11:13 am, you wrote:
> > Now that I found a nice OS and a nice group of people to talk about
> > technical issues in Mandrake Linux I am wondering - how is the market
> > share of Linux coming along? Growing? Is OS X having good/bad effects on
> > Linux?
> >
> > doug
>
> Well, it took a nose dive a while back, but it bounced back up to bout
> where it was when it was first offered.  But I kinda expect it to start
> going up now.  Didn't you  hear about the ibm deal?
>
> -s
Actually the "market share" is increasing and I expect it to hit a critical 
mass and really take off, but for now it seems to be encroaching more on the 
unix shares than the Microsoft or Apple shares.  Time will tell, especially 
with the M$ fee structure and the way the software is making a lot of folks 
unhappy. Just my $.02, 
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[newbie] Philips Nino PDA ?

[Joan Tur]

Hallo!

Has any of you got this PDA?  Mine is Nino 200 (8Mb Ram, 8Mb Rom, CF slot)...

If so... can it share data with Linux ??  Thanksss!!  ;)

Bon Nadal !!Merry Christmas !!
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Re: Themes and Window Managers (was Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic")

[Michel Clasquin]

On Monday 24 December 2001 19:09, you wrote:

> It seems that there is more available for KDE in general than for Gnome.
> Is that true, or a mistaken newbie first impression?

Well, as long as the KDE libraries are present, any KDE app will run on 
top of Gnome, and vice versa, so don't think of it as an either-or 
situation. There is the occasional issue, like cutting and pasting across 
the K-G divide, but there are also workarounds for those issues - just ask.

Also, there are many apps out there that are not advertised as either KDE 
or Gnome, but simply as QT- or GTK-based.

-- 
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Re: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?

[Kelly McCormick]

I too have had no problems with the Maxtor drive that I am aware of.
After thinking about this a bit longer though it occurred to me that I
installed this drive right before I installed Mandrake the first time. This
is also the drive that I installed Mandrake on. Windows is installed on the
first drive. The first time the MB had problems it lasted a bit longer, and
never died completely. I was dual booting and only using the Linux/Maxtor
drive periodically. The second MB barely lasted 3 months then died. This
time the Linux/Maxtor drive was being used exclusively. Another coincidence?
I don't know, but atleast it gives me something to try.
At any rate, thanks everyone for your help. I didn't intend to turn this
list into hardware support, so I will let this thread die here.

KM


- Original Message -
From: "poogle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?


> Another Hmmm,
> I have 5 HDs (in caddies) 1 x Samsung has an old MD 7.2 install still on
it
> and another Samsung with "something else" on it which my other half
insists
> on using :-)
> My MD 8.1 install is on a Fujitsu and I use a Maxtor as a backup in case I
> break something.
> I also have a Seagate which I use for crashtesting so it gets a fair
amount
> of abuse.
> Both the Maxtor & Seagate drives came from computer fairs, were labelled
> "untested buy at your own risk" and cost next to nothing, surprisingly,
> despite the warning label both have and are giving reliable service on my
> home-made AMD K6-2 450 machine and I've had them for a couple of years and
> put them to many different uses in that time.
>
> On Friday 21 December 2001 18:37 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Thursday 20 December 2001 23:55, you wrote:
> > > I have seen a hard drive (if I remember correctly it was either a
maxtor
> or seagate) where almost the same symptoms happened, judgeing form your
list
> of symptoms (this was in a winders box, about the time windows 98 came
out).
> I never did know "exactly" why the hard drive gave those symptoms, but
> changing the hard drive finally cured the box. (I had changed even the
power
> supply in the box, as well as fans added and all kinds of stuff) in spite
of
> good readings from it after about the third MB in 3 months. never had a
nother
> problem with the box, put the HD in a totally different box and two
> months later, had an additional "spare" cpu since the MB was trashed
> again.
>
> > >snip
> >
> > Hmm, that's interesting, one of the HD's is a Maxtor, not sure what the
> > other is.
> >
> > KM
>
> --
>
> Poogle
> Registered Linux user 182657 (added to sig for the benefit of those
irritated
> by it)
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...

[s]

On Monday 24 December 2001 11:13 am, you wrote:
> Now that I found a nice OS and a nice group of people to talk about
> technical issues in Mandrake Linux I am wondering - how is the market
> share of Linux coming along? Growing? Is OS X having good/bad effects on
> Linux?
>
> doug

Well, it took a nose dive a while back, but it bounced back up to bout where 
it was when it was first offered.  But I kinda expect it to start going up 
now.  Didn't you  hear about the ibm deal?

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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Steve]

On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 02:22:58AM +0900, Doug Lerner wrote:
> What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
> Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
> 
> Spreadsheets
> Word Processing
> PowerPoint Presentations
> 
> What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That
> package looks unbelievable for $49!
> 
> How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not
> seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right?

Doug, congrats on the successful install. I've used MacOS for years and
also use MacOS X. However I've been drifting away from Apple the last
few years as I don't particularly like their way of doing things. As
far as I'm concerned they're not much different than M$ and would love
to be in M$ position marketwise. Properietary OS'es suck wind!

Anyway, in terms of office suites for Linux there are several. Abisuite,
KOffice, OpenOffice and StarOffice. The latter two are from Sun and
IMHO both put M$ Office in it's place and...the price is damn good -
free.

I installed the latest OpenOffice binary this past weekend. I'm
impressed - I've been using StarOffice v 5.x previously.

In case you haven't heard of it, let me introduce you to
 Linux's version of VersionTracker. To find the apps
I mentioned, go there and use the search facility.

Merry Christmas!

-- 
Cheers,

Stephen



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[newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

[Doug Lerner]

Hmmm...

Mandrake Linux 8.1 is working fine, but if I restart the machine and
choose "windows" at the startup screen, my Windows 2000 parition won't load.

Any suggestions as to what I might try?

Thanks,

Doug Lerner, Tokyo





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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Lanman]

Doug ; Try Star Office 6.0 Beta (it's a Beta but very stable!) at 
www.sun.com

or better yet, try Openoffice at
www.openoffice.org

get the 641b version for Linux and/or Windows.  Includes full compatibility 
for MS Office XP ! and it's totally FREE ! In Either case, make sure that you 
get a Java Runtime Environment package running before you install the office 
suite. You'll want j2re - 1.3.1  for either Windows or Linux. Get that at

www.java.sun.com

We've been using it at the office for months without a problem on 37 PC's.

Lanman
P.S. Merry Christmas !



On Monday 24 December 2001 12:22 pm, you wrote:
> What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
> Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
>
> Spreadsheets
> Word Processing
> PowerPoint Presentations
>
> What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That
> package looks unbelievable for $49!
>
> How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not
> seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right?
>
> doug



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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

[Bob Bomar]

Go to www.sun.com/staroffice I use Star Office and have no complaints, 
it is M$ Office compatible.

Doug Lerner wrote:

>What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with
>Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for:
>
>Spreadsheets
>Word Processing
>PowerPoint Presentations
>
>What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That
>package looks unbelievable for $49!
>
>How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not
>seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right?
>
>doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>





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Re: [newbie] Perfect 8.1 install but...

[Mark Weaver]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 16:31:48 -
"Steve Maytum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Firstly , i hope this is a good time of year for everyone! Enjoy the break
> if you've got one. When possible can anyone help with this problem.
>  Upgraded to 8.1 (all installed O.K.) i have a cable modem on my machine.
> Linux found and used this with no problem. i have two NIC's installed for
> home network which i run under the other OS for a home network for kids.
>  Install asked me to set these up and provide IP addresses for them. With no
> networking experience i did my best.
>  Used 'net O.K. and shut down all processes (i thought). When PC was shut
> down an error must have occurred as machine stuck shutting down etho1.
>  Reinstalled and changed setup for NIC, when i shut down machine showed
> shutting down etho0.
>  Dislike this intensely.
>  Reinstalled 7.0 so i can use my Linux and request help for IP setup or
> suggestions for solutions.
>  Any help greatly appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve,

when you shut the machine down it's normal for the machine to "shut down" eth0 and 
eth1 or however ethernet interfaces it has. this is normal behavior. If you watch when 
it starts back up you'll notice messages to the affect that it's starting interface 
eth0 and so on.

the short answer to this is use the connection sharing setup wizard to help configure 
your nics and get everything setup. the longer explanation is below. when you start 
the setup wizard give the first nic 192.168.0.1 and the second 192.168.1.1.

normally the IP you want to use for the first nic (eth0) would be 192.168.0.1 and you 
can use the  192.168.1.1 for the second nic (eth1).

your range for the first nic might be something like 192.168.0.3 - 192.168.0.10. 
(192.168.0.2 being reserved for your nameserver) And while I'm thinking about it make 
sure you've turned off ypbind and yppasswd. You don't need them and if they're on will 
give you no end of grief. They're setup to start automagically by default.

your subnet for the second card as I stated previously would be 192.168.1.1 and your 
range could be 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.255 with your subnet mask 255.225.255.0 or 24. 
using the latter would look something like this:

192.168.0.1/24 = 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0

Any machines out on your LAN would be of the second subnet. i.e. 192.168.1.x/24

/etc/resolve.conf might look something like this:

== begin /etc/resolv.conf example =
# search yourhost.org your-isp.net
# search yourhost.org
search your-isp.net

nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx # primary isp dns server
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx # secondary isp dns server
nameserver 192.168.0.2 # your local dns server
   # local nameserver is necessary for your LAN
   # to enable good local communications

# ppp temp entry
# your dialer normally places entries here, however, I've found the best
# performance to happen after all connections are up and running including
# the LAN to make this file chmod 444 so that it's no longer a writable # file and 
therefore undergoes no more changes.
== end /etc/resolv.conf example 

-- 
daRcmaTTeR
-
If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do
the first time!

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Mandrake 8.1
-
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Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic"

[tester]

On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 06:31, Doug Lerner wrote:
> 
> Wow! It worked!
> 
> After getting this piece of critical advice from you Civileme, the
> installer worked just fine! It is true that in under 30 minutes you can
> install a working system.
> 
> Really great points:
> 
> * Mandrake Linux found with no fuss at all my sort of non-standard USB
> ethernet connection. Internet connectivity, which is usually a hassle,
> was no trouble at all. 
> 
> * Even my Japanese keyboard's mapping (usually another hassle) was fine
> right from the start.
> 
> * Same with the network time synchronization.
> 
> So I have to say after using it for 10 minutes I am pleased.
> 
> The KDE initialization dialog has a problem though. Apparently Mandrake
> Linux would like to collect info from people, but the keyboard does not
> seem to work in any of those initialization forms. I just had to cancel
> out of them. After that the keyboard worked.
> 
> I don't know why it doesn't work on the older Mint machine (other email I
> posted). 
> 
> Thanks again everybody for all your suggestions and help!
> 
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> 
> p.s. Now on to figure out how to use Japanese on the system...
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monday, December 24, 2001):
> 
> >On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 04:35, Doug Lerner wrote:
> >> The spec sheet for the HP Pavilion 2000 says the video is an "integrated
> >> graphic controller", so I guess that is something on board.
> >> 
> >> When does the "initializing ram disk" process take place?
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately a different CD reader is not an option. I don't think it
> >> will boot, for example, from an external USB CD-RW.
> >> 
> >> doug
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> >OK
> >
> >I have seen something like this before with the eboxit.  ZTry this:
> >
> >F1 at splash screen
> >
> >linux mem=53M
> >
> >at the input prompt, or if you have 128M of memory then
> >
> >linux mem=117M
> >
> >It appears that this has shared video memory and ther BIOS may be handing
> >the linux kernel a bad memory map so that the screen writing is
> >overwriting the kernel stack.
> >
> >Civileme
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> =_1009207889-11608-1413
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Thanks for your persistence

I am happy to hear that it is working  I will pass the hardware issue on to 
hardware testing and tech support
Most likely the Mandrake first time wizard is not enabled for a japanese keyboard, 
which is something someone here will want to correct.
Civileme
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Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic"

[Doug Lerner]

Wow! It worked!

After getting this piece of critical advice from you Civileme, the
installer worked just fine! It is true that in under 30 minutes you can
install a working system.

Really great points:

* Mandrake Linux found with no fuss at all my sort of non-standard USB
ethernet connection. Internet connectivity, which is usually a hassle,
was no trouble at all. 

* Even my Japanese keyboard's mapping (usually another hassle) was fine
right from the start.

* Same with the network time synchronization.

So I have to say after using it for 10 minutes I am pleased.

The KDE initialization dialog has a problem though. Apparently Mandrake
Linux would like to collect info from people, but the keyboard does not
seem to work in any of those initialization forms. I just had to cancel
out of them. After that the keyboard worked.

I don't know why it doesn't work on the older Mint machine (other email I
posted). 

Thanks again everybody for all your suggestions and help!

Doug Lerner, Tokyo

p.s. Now on to figure out how to use Japanese on the system...


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monday, December 24, 2001):

>On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 04:35, Doug Lerner wrote:
>> The spec sheet for the HP Pavilion 2000 says the video is an "integrated
>> graphic controller", so I guess that is something on board.
>> 
>> When does the "initializing ram disk" process take place?
>> 
>> Unfortunately a different CD reader is not an option. I don't think it
>> will boot, for example, from an external USB CD-RW.
>> 
>> doug
>> 
>> 
> 
>OK
>
>I have seen something like this before with the eboxit.  ZTry this:
>
>F1 at splash screen
>
>linux mem=53M
>
>at the input prompt, or if you have 128M of memory then
>
>linux mem=117M
>
>It appears that this has shared video memory and ther BIOS may be handing
>the linux kernel a bad memory map so that the screen writing is
>overwriting the kernel stack.
>
>Civileme
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Install Prob: "An error occurred" when installingpackages (followup...)

[s]

On Monday 24 December 2001 08:18 am, you wrote:
> I like to eliminate the simplest possibilities first. :-)

Well, I read where it was the shared memory thing.  that's good.  Good luck 
with the rest of it.  

> How do I check the md5sums?

md5sum --help   will give you all the options, but basically:
md5sum -band then you can look yourself if they match 
the md5sums.txt vendors will supply or do a -c or diff.

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Re: [newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................

[Stephen Kitchener]

On Monday 24 December 2001 04:44, you wrote:
> When u encounter a tar.gz to tgz file first gunzip it giving th e folowing
> command at the command line
> gunzip filename.tar.gz
> then it will be shortened to .tar file with a lager size
> we have to now untar it  with the command
> tar -xvf filename.tar
> the tar will be removed and a directory created with the name of the

Actually the tar remains and you could have done the whole operation with 
tar -zxvf filename.tgz.

> module. Go to that directory and run ./setup.sh which is usually the
> case. Alternately read the README file in the directory and forllow the
> instructions.
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Re: [newbie] Hotline

[Steve]

On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 10:03:28PM -0800, E Estes wrote:
> I'm not sure if anyone is familiar with the program hotline. I was wondering
> if there was a Linux version of this available for download? I did a search
> online and didn't find anything.

http://gtkhx.sourceforge.net/links.html

Or,

http://synhxd.sourceforge.net/

Or,

http://hx.fortyoz.org/

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Re: [newbie] Where's my E: drive (after reinstalling Mandrake).

[Randy Kramer]

Anguo wrote:
> I have three partitions under win98: hda1 (c:) hda9 (d:)  and hda4 (e:)
> (if you want to know why I still have windows, you may read this:
> http://www.mandrakeexpert.com/index1.php?tab=paid&act=view&incident=7114&w=0
> &PHPSESSID=db1ebacda45a13eb67211228ecf142f8 )

I was curious and tried to read this -- I guess you have to log in, and
maybe the link doesn't work "directly" in any case.

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[newbie] A bit dangerous?

[Doug Lerner]

I am installing Mandrake 8.1 now on my HP Pavilion. I still don't know if
it will be successful or not, but the installer seems to be happily
installing all the packages.

I started with two partitions on my hard drive: one for Windows 98 and
one for Windows 2000. I decided I could get along with just the Windows
2000 partition and so at the partitioning stage I clicked on the Windows
98 partition, selected delete and then auto-allocate.

Auto-allocate used the deleted Windows 98 partition and created linux,
home and swap partitions instead. Then it went on to select and install
packages, which it is doing now.

All this without any warnings at all!

You would think that before an entire partition was deleted you would get
warnings like "This will delete all the data on this entire partition.
Are you sure you want to do this?" But there was none of that. I was
surprised.

I would recommend inserting such a warning step into the procedure.

doug





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Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic"

[Doug Lerner]

My computer has 192 MB of RAM, so I'll subtract 11MB from that and try 

linux mem=181M

and see what happens!



Ooooh! It is working! That is, the installer is loading! Great advice,
Civileme!

I will try the installer program now and will report back on the results.

Thank you!

Doug Lerner, Tokyo


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monday, December 24, 2001):

>On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 04:35, Doug Lerner wrote:
>> The spec sheet for the HP Pavilion 2000 says the video is an "integrated
>> graphic controller", so I guess that is something on board.
>> 
>> When does the "initializing ram disk" process take place?
>> 
>> Unfortunately a different CD reader is not an option. I don't think it
>> will boot, for example, from an external USB CD-RW.
>> 
>> doug
>> 
>> 
> 
>OK
>
>I have seen something like this before with the eboxit.  ZTry this:
>
>F1 at splash screen
>
>linux mem=53M
>
>at the input prompt, or if you have 128M of memory then
>
>linux mem=117M
>
>It appears that this has shared video memory and ther BIOS may be handing
>the linux kernel a bad memory map so that the screen writing is
>overwriting the kernel stack.
>
>Civileme
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] Where's my E: drive (after reinstalling Mandrake).

[tester]

On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 04:29, Anguo wrote:
> I have three partitions under win98: hda1 (c:) hda9 (d:)  and hda4 (e:)
> (if you want to know why I still have windows, you may read this:
> http://www.mandrakeexpert.com/index1.php?tab=paid&act=view&incident=7114&w=0
> &PHPSESSID=db1ebacda45a13eb67211228ecf142f8 )
> 
> I had to reinstall Mandrake 8.1 and since then, windows won't read hda4 (e:)
> I run linux/fdisk and found out that the type for hda4 was set to "hidden
> FAT32".
> Still with fdisk, I t to change the type from 1b to b (FAT32), w to  write
> the table and exited.
> If I reboot to linux, the changes are still there.
> But when I boot win98, the partition e: is still not available...
> When I go back to linux after having booted win98, I notice that the
> partition table has changed back: the type for hda4 has come back from b to
> 1b. I have no such problems for my c: and d: drive, hda1 and hda9.
> Since I reinstalled mandrake, windows seems to be willing to hide hda4 from
> me. It's funny because the content is visible from linux. What's the point
> in having a windows partition visible only from linux and not from windows
> itself.
> 
> Does anyone have a clue?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Anguo
> 
> 

When you set linux in this, hda4 follows some of the linux partitions in
the "chain of recognition" that windows follows.  Since detection stops
at the first non-recognizable partition, any later "windows" partitions
are marked as hidden.  This is, as you gathered, a windows problem.  It
would be better to put all winpartitions in front of the linux
partitions and to use the last primary you make as the container for all
your extended partitions rather than putting them in the middle.

There is a way to achieve this, but it is non-trivial.  Best to borrow
an IDE drive,partition it with three winpartitions as 1, 2, and 3 then
all linux partitions after it and then copy the current disk partition
by partition using the filesystem and the 'cp -a' command, not dd from
mount point to same named mount point on the second drive.  Then erase
the first drive and create it again as a clone of the second, then
correct /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf to the new setup and finally
ececute /sbin/lilo as root.

Civileme





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Re: [newbie] Where's my E: drive (after reinstalling Mandrake).

[Ed Tharp]

do you run some sort of "disk compression" ? I remember that drivespace or 
something like that, as well as "stacker" created a hidden drive for the 
compression info, 

as to why window$ can not (should not?) see the contents of the drive and 
linux can? Linux works right, M$ winders works the way M$ wants. just my 
opinion. 

 and no, I can not see why _you_ dual boot, ( I do know why _I_ dual boot, 
and I probly even got you beat for "perverse" hard drive and cdrom arangement 
and excuses... but let's not go there) since the url would only come up if I 
was a registered user of mandrake-expert, I believe.  


On Monday 24 December 2001 08:29, you wrote:
> I have three partitions under win98: hda1 (c:) hda9 (d:)  and hda4 (e:)
> (if you want to know why I still have windows, you may read this:
> http://www.mandrakeexpert.com/index1.php?tab=paid&act=view&incident=7114&w=
>0 &PHPSESSID=db1ebacda45a13eb67211228ecf142f8 )
>
> I had to reinstall Mandrake 8.1 and since then, windows won't read hda4
> (e:) I run linux/fdisk and found out that the type for hda4 was set to
> "hidden FAT32".
> Still with fdisk, I t to change the type from 1b to b (FAT32), w to  write
> the table and exited.
> If I reboot to linux, the changes are still there.
> But when I boot win98, the partition e: is still not available...
> When I go back to linux after having booted win98, I notice that the
> partition table has changed back: the type for hda4 has come back from b to
> 1b. I have no such problems for my c: and d: drive, hda1 and hda9.
> Since I reinstalled mandrake, windows seems to be willing to hide hda4 from
> me. It's funny because the content is visible from linux. What's the point
> in having a windows partition visible only from linux and not from windows
> itself.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?
>
> thanks,
>
> Anguo



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Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic"

[tester]

On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 04:35, Doug Lerner wrote:
> The spec sheet for the HP Pavilion 2000 says the video is an "integrated
> graphic controller", so I guess that is something on board.
> 
> When does the "initializing ram disk" process take place?
> 
> Unfortunately a different CD reader is not an option. I don't think it
> will boot, for example, from an external USB CD-RW.
> 
> doug
> 
> 
 
OK

I have seen something like this before with the eboxit.  ZTry this:

F1 at splash screen

linux mem=53M

at the input prompt, or if you have 128M of memory then

linux mem=117M

It appears that this has shared video memory and ther BIOS may be handing the linux 
kernel a bad memory map so that the screen writing is overwriting the kernel stack.

Civileme





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Re: [newbie] Install Prob: "An error occurred" wheninstallingpackages (followup...)

[Doug Lerner]

I like to eliminate the simplest possibilities first. :-)

Since the Perl error message said "missing file" it seemed reasonable to
ask if, perhaps, there simply was a missing file.

Trying another CD drive is not really possible. My computer needs to boot
from the internal one. It won't boot from an external USB drive. Also,
that drive successfully installed Redhat Linux this morning on the same
computer, so I really do think it is reasonable not to suspect the drive
first, don't you?

How do I check the md5sums?

doug



[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monday, December 24, 2001):

>On Monday 24 December 2001 07:31 am, you wrote:
>> Don't you think it sounds more like an error in the Perl installer though
>> - like a missing file reference?
>>
>> doug
>
>No, unless you have a bad download or burn.  Try redownloading from
different 
>mirror, check the md5sums, and reburn it slow on quality medium.  If worse 
>comes to worse, try another cd drive.  All this has been suggested I think, 
>but you seem to have missed it.   You need to eliminate this doubt first.
>-s
>
>
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Re: [Re: [newbie] cant connect to apache, ssh, ftp or telnet from network]

[Ian K.Harrell]

Some further information on this problem.

There are no entries in either the /etc/hosts.deny or hosts.allow files. 
So this isnt causing the problem.

I can perform an iptables -F and then set all the default policies back 
to accept and everything works fine. Of course this leaves me with no 
firewall too. So it looks like it is some firewalling rule that is 
causing the problem.

I attached a copy of my bastille-firewall.cfg file to see if anyone sees 
a problem with it. I don't see anything in there that could be causing 
this.


Thanks,
Ian K. Harrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


"Dragon ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try this, I couldn't connect with SSH from anywhere and I swore up and 
down 
> that Bastille was setup correctly.  Look in the hosts.deny file.  I 
found an 
> entry with ALL:ALL...  I deleted that line and everything worked fine. 
 I 
> could still browse to FTP and HTTP when the line was there but I 
couldn't 
> connect via SSH.  Its another place to look.
> 
> From: "Ian K.Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] cant connect to apache, ssh, ftp or telnet from 
network
> Date: 21 Dec 2001 09:42:11 EST
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I installed 8.1 the other day. (3 disc set from cheapbytes). Then use
> Interactive Bastille to configure firewalling, internet masquerading 
and
> basic system security.
> 
> The problem is that while i can connect to the machine locally
> (http://localhost) noone can connect to it over the lan with either
> telnet, ssh, ftp or http. These servers are running and I told Bastille
> to leave these ports open to the internal network.
> 
> On the public network i left ssh and 80 open so i could connect in over
> the web from home and so we could host a small company web site. Still
> noone can connect to them from the internet BUT i went to www.grc.com
> and ran the port probe and it showed the ports as being open. This 
makes
> me wonder if it is a firewall rule that Bastille put in there or is
> there something else going on?
> 
> Right now the only thing that is working over the lan is internet
> masquerading.
> 
> Any ideas?
> Ian K. Harrell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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#
# /etc/bastille-firewall.cfg
#
# Configuration fiel for both 2.2/ipchains and 2.4/netfilter scripts
#
# version 0.99-beta1
# Copyright (C) 1999-2001 Peter Watkins 
#
#This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#GNU General Public License for more details.
#
#You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA
#
# Thanks to David Ranch, Brad A, Don G, and others for their suggestions

# the configuration values should be whitespace-delimited lists of 
# appropriate values, e.g.
#   TCP_PUBLIC_SERVICES="80 smtp ssh"
# lists Web (port 80), SMTP mail, and Secure Shell ports
#
# This script is suitable for workstations or simple NAT firewalls;
# you may want to add more "output" restrictions for serious servers

# 0) DNS servers. You must list your DNS servers here so that
#   the firewall will allow them to service your lookup requests
#
# List of DNS servers/networks to allow "domain" responses from
# This _could_ be nameservers as a list of /32 entries
#DNS_SERVERS="a.b.c.d/32 e.f.g.h/32"
# If you are running a caching nameserver, you'll need to allow from
# "0.0.0.0/0" so named can query any arbitrary nameserver
# (To enable a caching nameserver, you will also probably need to
#  add "domain" to the TCP and UDP public service lists.)
#DNS_SERVERS="0.0.0.0/0"
#
# To have the DNS servers parsed from /etc/resolv.conf at runtime,
# as normal workstations will want, make this variable empty
#DNS_SERVERS=""
#
# Please make sure variable assignments are on single lines; do NOT
# use the "\" continuation character (so Bastille can change the
# values if it is run more than once)
DNS_SERVERS="0.0.0.0/0"


# 1) define your interfaces
#   Note a "+" acts as a wildcard, e.g. ppp+ would match any PPP 
#   interface
#
# list internal/trusted interfaces
# traffic from these interfaces will be allowed 
# through the firewall, no restrictions
#TRUSTED_IFACES="lo"# MINIMAL/SAFEST
#
# list external/untrusted interfaces
#PUBLIC_IFACES="eth+ ppp+ slip+"# SAFEST
#

Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic"

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:35:40 +0900
Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The spec sheet for the HP Pavilion 2000 says the video is an "integrated
> graphic controller", so I guess that is something on board.
> 
> When does the "initializing ram disk" process take place?
> 
> Unfortunately a different CD reader is not an option. I don't think it
> will boot, for example, from an external USB CD-RW.
> 
 

With the on board vid the BIOS is most likely reporting the wrom 
RAM value.

Try this.
At the Installation splash screen press F1 and at the boot prompt enter:
 linux mem=(total ram - video ram)M

If you have 128MB and your videao card uses 4MB then you would enter:
 linux mem=124M


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Re: [newbie] Install Prob: "An error occurred" when installingpackages (followup...)

[s]

On Monday 24 December 2001 07:31 am, you wrote:
> Don't you think it sounds more like an error in the Perl installer though
> - like a missing file reference?
>
> doug

No, unless you have a bad download or burn.  Try redownloading from different 
mirror, check the md5sums, and reburn it slow on quality medium.  If worse 
comes to worse, try another cd drive.  All this has been suggested I think, 
but you seem to have missed it.   You need to eliminate this doubt first.
-s




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Re: [newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................

[Michael Scottaline]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:58:18 +0800
"Pranay Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> Extract the files using "tar -zxvf ".
> 
> Then you can build the source. Generally the steps involve:
> 
> ./configure
> ./make
> ./make install
==
No ./ before either make or make install.
And "make install" must be done as the root user
Mike

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Re: [newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................

[Michael Scottaline]

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:53:30 -0500
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:


> I use the term 
> # tar -xvzf gobbledegook.123_tar.gz.  
> and the -xvzf seems to uncompress it and untar it all at once. It's
> magic. Ha! so then when it lists out a whole bunch of files you can go
> back to the top of the list and see what file it is originated in,
> probably something like; #  gobbledegook.123   .  You can the change
> directory to that directory by :  #  cd gobbledegook.123 and at the next
> return and prompt type ./configure   A whole bunch of stuff starts
> poping up.  (These are the only technical terms I can deal with so bear
> with me).   Once it gets back to the prompt you type in "make" and a
> whole bunch more stuff starts poping up on the screen. Once again back
> to the prompt and type in "make install" and more stuff pops up on the
==
Just a quick note (if I may butt in briefly):
"make install" must be done as root user, so:
su
password
first; then do the "make install"

Sorry for the interupt,
Mike

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Re: [newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................

[Michael Viron]

At 01:53 AM 12/24/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>You are correct about the twice-compressed file.
>
>You need to do the following (from a terminal):
>
>1)  gunzip *.*.gz
>2)  tar -xvf *.tar
>
>Good luck,
>
>Paul

Actually, if you want to do it that way, the first step could be 'gunzip
*.gz' or even 'gunzip *gz' (since an '*' will match any characters,
including a '.')

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Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic"

[Doug Lerner]

The spec sheet for the HP Pavilion 2000 says the video is an "integrated
graphic controller", so I guess that is something on board.

When does the "initializing ram disk" process take place?

Unfortunately a different CD reader is not an option. I don't think it
will boot, for example, from an external USB CD-RW.

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monday, December 24, 2001):

>does if motherboard have on-board video? try specifying say 8 megs less ram. 
>do you get to the point of "initializing ram disk"?  maybe a different cd 
>reader is the answer? 
>
>
>On Sunday 23 December 2001 22:55, you wrote:
>> This is a re-post because I have new information now:
>>
>> I am able to run the installer on my old Mint Pentium 133MHz 96MB
>> machine. So the ISO-image I downloaded and the CD-ROM I burned are not
>> the problem. Any ideas? Is my HP just incompatible? (;_;)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> p.s. The installer looks much nicer than the RedHat installer. :-)
>>
>> Original note:
>>
>> Hi. I just downloaded the install ISO image for Mandrake 8.1 and burned a
>> CD-ROM from it. Then I restarted my computer and the Mandrake
>> installation program started up. I pressed Enter and after a bunch of
>> lines on the screen the process stopped with the following error message:
>>
>> <0>Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
>>
>> I tried this again, pressing F1 instead of Enter and choosing various
>> other installations, such as vgalo. But they all resulted in the same
>> error.
>>
>> Does this mean my hardware is just not supported?
>>
>> It is an HP (Hewlett-Packard) Pavilion 2000, Celeron 400 MHz, 192 MB RAM.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
>
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Re: [newbie] Install Prob: "An error occurred" wheninstallingpackages (followup...)

[Doug Lerner]

Don't you think it sounds more like an error in the Perl installer though
- like a missing file reference?

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monday, December 24, 2001):

>On Sun, 2001-12-23 at 19:28, Doug Lerner wrote:
>> Followup:
>> 
>> After unchecking the "Office" package option it seemed to proceed. But
>> then the same error occurred again later on. Does the installation of
>> packages actually work?
>> 
>> doug
>> 
>> Original post:
>> 
>> While running the installer (boot floppy, CD-ROM local drive), I get an
>> error at the step where I select and install packages. 
>> 
>> After selecting packages, the "estimating time" screen comes up and then
>> an error comes up:
>> 
>> An error occurred
>> invalid file ''
>> pkgs::package File() called from /usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm:1331
>> pkgs::install() called from /usr/bin/per-install/install_steps.pm:371
>> [a bunch of more lines along this vein...]
>> install2:main() called from /usr/bin/runinstall2:29
>> 
>> Then an [ok] button appears. After clicking that I am back at the package
>> selection screen.
>> 
>> What should I do to proceed?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
>> 
>> 
>
>This suggests a hardware problem.  If it is happening on one system and
>not another, then check the CD drives.  If it happens on many systems,
>it is likely the burner.  Other culprits are memory (make a floppy from
>/images/memtest-x86.bin just the way you would make a boot floppy then
>boot from it for a really thorough memory chack) and sometimes the
>receiving hard disk (most notably WD drives run at more than 33MHz).
>Windows will not show these problems, particularly the memory problem
>since it occupies the lower  and only a little of the upper section of
>memory and rarely when a "leak" occurs, the rest of the memory and linux
>occupies all the memory it can, because the designers are of the belief
>that ubused memory is wasted.
>
>Civileme
>
>> 
>> 
>> =_1009168129-11608-1339
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>
>
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[newbie] Where's my E: drive (after reinstalling Mandrake).

[Anguo]

I have three partitions under win98: hda1 (c:) hda9 (d:)  and hda4 (e:)
(if you want to know why I still have windows, you may read this:
http://www.mandrakeexpert.com/index1.php?tab=paid&act=view&incident=7114&w=0
&PHPSESSID=db1ebacda45a13eb67211228ecf142f8 )

I had to reinstall Mandrake 8.1 and since then, windows won't read hda4 (e:)
I run linux/fdisk and found out that the type for hda4 was set to "hidden
FAT32".
Still with fdisk, I t to change the type from 1b to b (FAT32), w to  write
the table and exited.
If I reboot to linux, the changes are still there.
But when I boot win98, the partition e: is still not available...
When I go back to linux after having booted win98, I notice that the
partition table has changed back: the type for hda4 has come back from b to
1b. I have no such problems for my c: and d: drive, hda1 and hda9.
Since I reinstalled mandrake, windows seems to be willing to hide hda4 from
me. It's funny because the content is visible from linux. What's the point
in having a windows partition visible only from linux and not from windows
itself.

Does anyone have a clue?

thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Unable to install: "Kernel Panic"

[Ed Tharp]

does if motherboard have on-board video? try specifying say 8 megs less ram. 
do you get to the point of "initializing ram disk"?  maybe a different cd 
reader is the answer? 


On Sunday 23 December 2001 22:55, you wrote:
> This is a re-post because I have new information now:
>
> I am able to run the installer on my old Mint Pentium 133MHz 96MB
> machine. So the ISO-image I downloaded and the CD-ROM I burned are not
> the problem. Any ideas? Is my HP just incompatible? (;_;)
>
> Thanks!
>
> p.s. The installer looks much nicer than the RedHat installer. :-)
>
> Original note:
>
> Hi. I just downloaded the install ISO image for Mandrake 8.1 and burned a
> CD-ROM from it. Then I restarted my computer and the Mandrake
> installation program started up. I pressed Enter and after a bunch of
> lines on the screen the process stopped with the following error message:
>
> <0>Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
>
> I tried this again, pressing F1 instead of Enter and choosing various
> other installations, such as vgalo. But they all resulted in the same
> error.
>
> Does this mean my hardware is just not supported?
>
> It is an HP (Hewlett-Packard) Pavilion 2000, Celeron 400 MHz, 192 MB RAM.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo



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Re: [newbie] Install Prob: "An error occurred" when installingpackages (followup...)

[tester]

On Sun, 2001-12-23 at 19:28, Doug Lerner wrote:
> Followup:
> 
> After unchecking the "Office" package option it seemed to proceed. But
> then the same error occurred again later on. Does the installation of
> packages actually work?
> 
> doug
> 
> Original post:
> 
> While running the installer (boot floppy, CD-ROM local drive), I get an
> error at the step where I select and install packages. 
> 
> After selecting packages, the "estimating time" screen comes up and then
> an error comes up:
> 
> An error occurred
> invalid file ''
> pkgs::package File() called from /usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm:1331
> pkgs::install() called from /usr/bin/per-install/install_steps.pm:371
> [a bunch of more lines along this vein...]
> install2:main() called from /usr/bin/runinstall2:29
> 
> Then an [ok] button appears. After clicking that I am back at the package
> selection screen.
> 
> What should I do to proceed?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> 
> 

This suggests a hardware problem.  If it is happening on one system and
not another, then check the CD drives.  If it happens on many systems,
it is likely the burner.  Other culprits are memory (make a floppy from
/images/memtest-x86.bin just the way you would make a boot floppy then
boot from it for a really thorough memory chack) and sometimes the
receiving hard disk (most notably WD drives run at more than 33MHz).
Windows will not show these problems, particularly the memory problem
since it occupies the lower  and only a little of the upper section of
memory and rarely when a "leak" occurs, the rest of the memory and linux
occupies all the memory it can, because the designers are of the belief
that ubused memory is wasted.

Civileme

> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] SMTP Authentication (as a user)

[Ed Tharp]

kmail


On Monday 24 December 2001 05:55, you wrote:
> My ISP requires SMTP authentication ... which I can do
> fine on
> Outlook
> Is there a way I can send a UserName/Password combo
> using
> postfix when I send mail?
>
> Or can anyone recommend a mail client that has this
> feature?
>
> Currently, I have to log on to yahoo mail to send
> anything and
> I hate it.
>
> TIAI',m so full questions today...no work(hehehe)
>
> jal
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Re: [newbie] cant connect to apache, ssh, ftp or telnet from network

[Mark Weaver]

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:38:00 -0600
"Dragon ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Try this, I couldn't connect with SSH from anywhere and I swore up and down 
> that Bastille was setup correctly.  Look in the hosts.deny file.  I found an 
> entry with ALL:ALL...  I deleted that line and everything worked fine.  I 
> could still browse to FTP and HTTP when the line was there but I couldn't 
> connect via SSH.  Its another place to look.
> 

here's something that will knot your shorts. some clients have a unique way of 
announcing themselves in such a way that PortSentry sees the commnuication as a port 
scan and makes an entry in the /etc/hosts.deny file AND then also creates a rule in 
the iptables ruleset to block any further attempts at connections from the IP address. 
Netscape 6.x is one of these culprits. Specifically, Netscape Messenger 6.x. I 
stumbled upon this miserey some time back and have since been able to reproduce this 
behavior repeatedly. Drove me crazy for a while till I realized what was going on.
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Re: [newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................

[hardcorepush]

a preemptive strike...
When you run ./configure, the program is looking for dependencies before it compiles. 
When you are missing something it will tell you..."cant find gtk-config" or whatever. 
now go to rpmfind and search for that file, dl the package and install and try again. 
"make" should run fine if ./configure finishes witout error, su to root run make 
install..you did the others as a user didnt you?

rob
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:38:35 -0600
Michael Viron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 'tar -xzvf ghx3_Linux_x86_glibc22_20010802.tar.gz' and then read the README
> and / or INSTALL file(s).
> 
> Michael
> 
> --
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> Registered Linux User #81978
> Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
> Web Spinners, University of West Florida
> 
> At 09:37 PM 12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >install files (that are not rpm) on linux, such as something like this
> >"ghx3_Linux_x86_glibc22_20010802.tar.gz". I understand this is compressed
> >twice from what I've read, once tar and the other gzip but I have no clue
> >what to do with it.
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >Mithrilhall
> >
> >
> >=Mithrilhall=
> >Linux - Mandrake 8.1
> >AMD K-2 / 350 Mhz
> > File Server
> >FTP Server
> >   Web Server
> >http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net
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> >
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Re: [newbie] Login Menu

[Derek Jennings]

Mandrake Control Centre>Boot>BootConfig

Check the box to Launch X window on start
Check No autologin

It will then boot into the graphical logon

BTW:Logging in as root is discouraged. That is why the background is that 
sickly red colour, and there are no icons in the tool bar, and it is also why 
a little window pops up saying "This is not a good idea"  :-)

If anything  needs root priviliges.   You may execute it as a root window 
inside your normal user account. 

derek




On Monday 24 December 2001 09:49, Pauljames Dimitriu wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  When I (re)installed Linux, I selected the option
> of automatically logging into one account.  This is
> fine, but when I log out and I want to log in as root,
> I don't get the graphical menu, all I get is the
> command line.
>
>  Two questions:  1)  From the command line, how do
> I start up the login GUI?
>
>  2)  How can I make it so Linux always boots into
> this menu?
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Paul
>
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Re: [newbie] Cron ???

[quaylar]

At 14:12 24.12.2001 +0800, you wrote:
>[root@smtp /root]# cat /var/spool/cron/root
># DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.


did u see this line ? *g*


># (/tmp/crontab.8868 installed on Mon Dec 24 10:11:33 2001)
># (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $)
>
>SHELL=/bin/bash
>PATH=/usr/bin
>MAILTO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
>0 9 * * 1-6 $PATH/killall fetchmail
>0 9 * * 1-6 $PATH/fetchmail -d 300
>
>0 17 * * 1-6 $PATH/killall fetchmail
>0 17 * * 1-6 $PATH/fetchmail -d 3600
>
>Hi! above is my cron setting ..I create .. But it does not work ...?
>Can someone help me ...what is my mistake ... ?


u have to edit /etc/crontab in order to get this working - edit the file 
with an editor of your choice
and insert the cron jobs above (dont forget to set the user the cron jobs 
should be running as).
then save and "killall -HUP crond" - this will restart the cron service and 
your jobs should run properly.

greetings

--quay


>
>
>Best Regards,
>SKLIM
>+6012 391 3638




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[newbie] SMTP Authentication (as a user)

[Allen Hernandez]

My ISP requires SMTP authentication ... which I can do
fine on
Outlook 
Is there a way I can send a UserName/Password combo
using 
postfix when I send mail?

Or can anyone recommend a mail client that has this
feature?

Currently, I have to log on to yahoo mail to send
anything and 
I hate it.

TIAI',m so full questions today...no work(hehehe)

jal

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[newbie] Real Problems with Real Player

[Allen Hernandez]

Can anyone give me some tips on how to make Real
Player work
on kde?

Anytime I start it it just sits there.with some
portions blacked out.
I tried starting it from a console...same thing.
I haven't tested the plugin with konqueror either.

It starts fine on Gnomewhat am I missing?

I haven't used Real Player on Linux before, just now.

TIA, and Merry Christmas to everyone!

jal


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Re: [newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................

[Bob Abbott]

You keep talking about a twice compressed file.  It isn't twice compressed 
tar is just a way to archive files without any compression.  After you make a 
tarball then you can decompress it.
to extract the files you first have to uncompress it and then untar it.

I hpe this helps.
On Monday 24 December 2001 02:53 am, you wrote:
> You are correct about the twice-compressed file.
>
> You need to do the following (from a terminal):
>
> 1)  gunzip *.*.gz
> 2)  tar -xvf *.tar
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
>
> --- Mithrilhall2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > install files (that are not rpm) on linux, such as
> > something like this
> > "ghx3_Linux_x86_glibc22_20010802.tar.gz". I
> > understand this is compressed
> > twice from what I've read, once tar and the other
> > gzip but I have no clue
> > what to do with it.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Mithrilhall
> >
> >
> > =Mithrilhall=
> > Linux - Mandrake 8.1
> > AMD K-2 / 350 Mhz
> >  File Server
> > FTP Server
> >Web Server
> > http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net
> > =
>
> _
>
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> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
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-- 
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Programmer - A red-eyed mumbling mammal capable
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Re: [newbie] Motions Fowarded :-)

[lee]

Yes Michael..funny you should pop in...you're another one that is a very 
large asset to this list (that I so ungratefully couldn't remember)...thank 
you very much  :-)

Lee




> Of course, here are a few more things available for you newbie people:
>
> http://webspinners.uwf.org/~mviron/faqs/linux.php (Q and A that I've posted
> from my posts to the newbie and expert lists).
>
> http://webspinners.uwf.org/~mviron/faqs/redhat.php (another Q and A, old
> posts that I made to the redhat lists quite a while back).
>
> http://findaschool.org/~mviron/mdk72/ (rpms / srpms for 7.2 from old cooker
> srpms)
> For these, I since started using 8.1 srpms--have around 100 - 150 that I've
> checked so far.
>
> Michael




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Re: [newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................

[Pauljames Dimitriu]

You are correct about the twice-compressed file.

You need to do the following (from a terminal):

1)  gunzip *.*.gz
2)  tar -xvf *.tar

Good luck,

Paul

--- Mithrilhall2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> install files (that are not rpm) on linux, such as
> something like this
> "ghx3_Linux_x86_glibc22_20010802.tar.gz". I
> understand this is compressed
> twice from what I've read, once tar and the other
> gzip but I have no clue
> what to do with it.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Mithrilhall
> 
> 
> =Mithrilhall=
> Linux - Mandrake 8.1
> AMD K-2 / 350 Mhz
>  File Server
> FTP Server
>Web Server
> http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net
> =
> 
> 
>
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[newbie] Login Menu

[Pauljames Dimitriu]

Hello,

 When I (re)installed Linux, I selected the option
of automatically logging into one account.  This is
fine, but when I log out and I want to log in as root,
I don't get the graphical menu, all I get is the
command line.

 Two questions:  1)  From the command line, how do
I start up the login GUI?  

 2)  How can I make it so Linux always boots into
this menu?

 Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] Fwd: I have a voodoo 3-3500 Tv card

[Mohammed Arafa]

i just ran across this link ..dont know if it works or even if the tld is
correct www.linuxvoodoo.com
- Original Message -
From: "Ed Tharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "doug shock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 1:26 AM
Subject: [newbie] Fwd: I have a voodoo 3-3500 Tv card


> Please reply  to Doug
> "doug shock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, as he says his message is not getting to
> the list.
>
>
>
> I have a voodoo 3-3500 Tv card installed in my mandrake box. About 1 year
> ago I saw a thread regarding how to get the TV aspect of this card working
> under Linux.
>
>






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Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux

[Brian Parish]

Probably the easiest would be FAT32.  You'll find that when you've installed 
Linux, it will mount it for you by default.  You'll find it from Linux as 
/mnt/windows, or /mnt/win_c - something like that.

/Brian

On Monday 24 December 2001 4:34 am, you wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:21:47 -0600
>
> "kenn yahoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:
> > Greetings 
> >
> > Well, my xmas gift to myself -- a new laptop -- arrived via FedEx
> > yesterday, and I've successfully created a dual boot with windows and
> > linux ... now that i know i can do that, today's task is to reinstall
> > linux, this time changing the partitioning ...
> >
> > i need to have one small partition (500Mb) that can be accessed by
> > either windows or linux (the reason being that, as much as i had to
> > admit it, i can't find a web page design program that i like as well as
> > Dreamweaver).
> >
> > what file system should i choose? and how do i make it accessible by
> > windows?
>
> ===
> Most file systems can be accessed by Linux.  vfat (a windows fs) can be
> mounted rw by linux and shouldn't pose any problems for your linux system.
> Merry christmas to you also, and enjoy your early gift ;-) Mike



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