[newbie] Re: simple c 's printf problem in mandrake8.0

[eric]

Michael Veksler wrote:
> 
> eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   both are not work on bash but work on csh on my mandrake 8.0, I also
> > webmail them (mandrakesoft) on tech support, but they said it in not in
> > the scope they want to support.
> 
> I did not follow the thread up until now, so I may be off base here.
> 
> Do your prompts in csh and in bash have "\r" at their beginning?
> If they do, then your little program works well, but your shell
> erases it (I think it is the default behavior of zsh).
> Do the following experiment:
>csh% printf "test" ; sleep 1
>  or
>bash$ printf "test" ; sleep 1
> 
> Does "test" appear on your screen for one second and then goes away?
>
Dear Michael:

at bash it stay one second then disappear
at csh it keep there.

for me I just like csh's style.  Is that fixed rule of bash to swallow
out the printf without \n at the end of string?   I just worried the
program written and compiled at other platform(redhat7.1,
debian-progeny1.0 then stay there, but I did not notice it is bash or
not-its default one) not compatible my mandrake8.0.  That is if it is
not fixed rule, can I change my bash as csh's custom?

sincere eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
>   Michael
> 
> Stephano Mariani wrote:
> >
> > Here is what I mean:
> >
> > #include 
> >
> > int main(int argc,char*const*argv)
> > {
> >   printf("Hello World"); /* No linefeed */
> >   fflush(stdout); /* Likewise for any other stream(s) you use */
> >   _exit(0);
> > }
> >



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[newbie] SO 5.2 won't share

[Grant Fraser]

I am trying to install SO 5.2 from the 8.0 CD. The setup program is in the 
KDE menu. I want to put the program where it can be installed once and used 
by all. SO seems to want to have a full copy of itself in each user directory.
I have tried Network install and Workstation install. As root I can get the 
program to install to /usr/share/staroffice52
As user I cannot access it without the setup program running again.
How do I get the program files in one directory and the user files in 
another. I did not see that option.

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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On 31 Dec 2001 20:05:55 -0500, Michael Leone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in
> >Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be
> >able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever
> >file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to
> >reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their
> >competing office suite.
> 
> Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't
> reverse-engineer them, I thought.

Nope, they are reverse-engineered. That's why it has taken so long for the
filters to reach their present level of quality (which is very good).

-- 
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"The linux kernel has had an interesting release pattern: usually the .0 release
was actually fairly good (there's almost always something stupid, but on the
whole not really horrible).  And every single time so far, .1 has been worse. It
usually takes until something like .5 until it has caught up and surpassed the
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[newbie] AOL CDROM help!

[AOL Systems]

Pls help!

I mounted my cdrom using mount /mnt/cdrom then
i went to the directory using cd /mnt/cdrom when i command  ls
no directories or files found
when i command mount /dev/cdrom an error occured saying
"fs: iso9660 is not supported by your kernel
so how will i installed packages so my cdrom may be supported and what
packages should i install.How can I also install it my cdrom  does not
mount-I cannot use my cdrom.

Any help will be gladly appreciated.
Thanks and God Bless!

Happy New Year!!!2002 from AOL Systems!
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!

Respectfully
AOL






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Re: [newbie] c compiler and its problem in 8.0

[eric]

Dear Pen:
  I tried your 4 lines program, it still not print out even I use gcc -v
or cc -v to compile, actually after the gcc -v I got a lot of junks
waring.  

  Same thing, at bash it is not be printed, but it can be shown at csh.
rpm -q gcc
2.96-0.48mdk (probably straight from 8.0 standard edition)
rpm -q bash
bash-2.04-18mdk(straight from 8.0 standard edition)

  you may check your bash in your 8.1 , is that same edition as mine in
8.0?  may be that is the problem.

eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pen Gwynne wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> Please do "gcc -v" or "cc -v" and tell us what it says.  I have the following
> 4 line program:
> 
> int main()
>   {
>   printf("Hello World!");
>   }
> 
> It compiles and run properly, even without the normal "#include" files.  I am
> using a straight Mandrake 8.1 installation and my version of gcc is 2.96
> 2731.
> 
> Now let me say this.  My prompt is the normal, or default
> 
> [pen@myhost dir]$
> 
> When I run the program what I see is:
> 
> Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$
> 
> You should also be aware of one more "funny" thing that Linux does.  After
> running a.out, the hello world example, As soon as I type something,
> anything, then the hello world program output and my prompt line:
> 
> Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$
> 
> is comes just:
> 
> [pen@myhost dir]$
> 
> It looks like the program never printed anything at all.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> /Pen



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Re: [newbie] noarch?

[Michael Viron]

If you are dealing with the Intel Architecture, there are 3 different types
of packages (one of which is common to all platforms):

ix86.rpm - these are binary, installable packages, which must be installed
on x86 or later (ie, if it is for i586 (Pentium), it can't be used on a 486.)

noarch.rpm - these are typically documentation or system configuration
files which are not dependent on the type of architecture of the machine.

src.rpm (SRPMS) - these are files that can be 'rebuilt' and consist of the
source code of the program or library and any relevant patches.

HTH,

Michael

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At 07:19 PM 12/31/2001 -0800, Norman Zhang wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am trying to download some source codes for compilation. But it comes in
>two flavors, one is regular and the other is noarch. What does noarch stands
>for?
>
>Regards,
>Norman
>
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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

[Charles Jennings]

Just to let everyone know, I tried them all and ended with Partition Magic; 
but only in the DOS mode, as something was wrong with the partition table. I 
repartitioned the drive into two and went from there. 
I had trouble with the install, but that's another matter. "See neither  will 
install".
Thank you for all your advice, however, as the attitude of this list is the 
most encouraging thing in the Linux world.
Chuck

On Thursday 27 December 2001 10:44 am, you wrote:
> I tried several ways to use diskdrake and it just
> wouldn't resize the partition, that's why I used FIPS.
>
> To make life as simple as possible I created a DOS
> boot floppy disk, copied FIPS onto it, booted from the
> floppy and ran FIPS. All of this may not actually be
> necessary but I like to keep things a simple as
> possible when doing things to my hard drives. Since I
> didn't catch the beginning of this thread I am
> assuming that you ran defrag in windows before
> starting all of this.
> Good luck.
>
> TC
>
> --- daRcmaTTeR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:42:00 -0700
> > Charles Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly
> >
> > spake these words to ponder:
> > > On Wednesday 26 December 2001 06:11 pm, you wrote:
> > > Maybe I am confused. I thought that Mandrake was
> >
> > using diskdrake to do the
> >
> > > partitioning during the install and it wasn't able
> >
> > to do the "resize". Is
> >
> > > that wrong?
> > > chuck
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> > yes, diskdrake is used during the install, however,
> > diskdrake will do everything you need it to do. it's
> > not quite as robust as partition magic in some ways,
> > but it's darn close, and in other ways it surpasses
> > Partition Magic. It will resize, reformat, (many
> > different filesystem types) and a lot of other stuff
> > that escapes me at the moment. it's a heck of a
> > tool. You can access it from a running Linux
> > installation, or from the install CD's. either way
> > will work just fine.
> >
> > give it a shot.
> >
> > --
> > daRcmaTTeR
>
> -
>
> > If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told
> > you to do
> > the first time!
> >
> > Registered Linux User 182496
> > Mandrake 8.1
>
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> > average: 0.05, 0.22, 0.26
> >
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[newbie] noarch?

[Norman Zhang]

Hi,

I am trying to download some source codes for compilation. But it comes in
two flavors, one is regular and the other is noarch. What does noarch stands
for?

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Re: [newbie] Resolving HW conflicts

[Erylon]

On Monday 31 December 2001 08:28, you wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:40:29 -0600
>
> Mark Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Short version: I need a general methodology for determining what
> > resources my peripherals are using; i.e. a list of files to
> > examine or diagnostics to run that will tell me that my soundcard
> > is using IRQ n / port m / DMA x / whatever y, my modem is using
> > IRQ etc etc
> >
> > Long version: I'm running LM7.2 on an Asus/K7 platform with Winders
> > Me in another set of partitions.  When I set this thing up I had a
> > lot of trouble with the modem; finally got it working by forcing
> > (via BIOS changes) the PCI slot the modem inhabits to use IRQ10
> > instead of allowing it to autoconfigure, and reflecting this change
> > in my setserial command (also sets it to tty4).
> >
> > This mobo has onboard sound, so rather than invest in a soundcard I
> > just used that.  Winders liked that fine, but LM never saw it.  So
> > recently I bought a SoundBlaster 16, and finally installed it over
> > the weekend.  Winders likes this too; no problems there.
> >
> > On the Linux side, however, the modem has quit responding.  The
> > sound card was detected and set up by sndconfig, and I do get sound,
> > but for some reason sndconfig thinks it's an Ensonic.
> >
> > Obviously there's some sort of conflict.  So what I need to do is
> > either change the modem settings (in which case I need to know what
> > IRQs/ports/etc are free), change the SoundBlaster settings (in which
> > case I need to know the same *plus* the extra SB parameters for snd-
> > config), or ... well, or something else, you tell me.
> >
> > Any help?  Thanks in advance
>
> Su to root and run: cat /proc/pci
>
> Since you are using 7.2 be sure that PnP OS is set to No
> in your BIOS.
>
>
> Charles

Also, move your soundcard to another slot.  Some motherboards have IRQ 
shared in certain slots (Abit BE6-II slots 2 and 5 share IRQ, and slot 1 and 
AGP also share,  for example).

good luck
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Re: [newbie] My 3 year old computer, is it compatible?

[Erylon]

On Monday 31 December 2001 11:11, you wrote:
> Michael Viron wrote:
> >If it is a Pentium or above, you'll be able to install Mandrake.  If it's
> > a 486, you'll still be able to install Mandrake 7.0 for i486 (although
> > that might be a bit sluggish).
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >--
> >Michael Viron
> >Registered Linux User #81978
> >Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
> >Web Spinners, University of West Florida
> >
> >At 07:07 AM 12/31/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >I have a 3 year old computer that is an NEC and it has a motherboard with
> > a really old BIOS ( I don't know its name ) And it has about 64 megabytes
> > of ram and a voodoo 3 or 4 video card and plug and play card with
> > microphone, sound, phone port and another card that is an Ethernet card,
> > will I be able to install mandrake or red hat on it? 

If it's a P133 or above, mdk 7.1 or 7.2 will be fine.  If it's a 200 or 
above,mdk8 will work o.k. (but you could use more ram for that).  If it's an 
older, slower machine, I'd go with the 486 version of mdk 7.0 (which I've not 
used, btw) or one of the RedHat 6.x versions (which I do use).  With a 
Voodoo, I'd lean towards mdk 7.2 on any machine between P133 and P200.  Check 
the compatibility lists to see about support for your brand of ethernet (I've 
never found an ethernet card that won't work) and sound (some sound cards 
aren't supported).

jmo, but I put linux on old computers all the time, and those are my rules.

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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

[tester]

Michael Leone wrote:

>>I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in
>>Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be
>>able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever
>>file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to
>>reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their
>>competing office suite.
>>
>
>Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't
>reverse-engineer them, I thought.
>
Well, no one requires Microsoft to offer such licenses, but the point 
again is that your data is hostage if they want it to be, and you will 
have to purchase upgrades on their schedule or lose what you have.  If 
you do not keep your data on windows proprietary formats now, it is wise 
to remain in that position.

You may have to run their OS to communicate with their captives, but you 
don't need to keep your data there.  Send stuff out as HTML, and they 
can read it, or use .rtf, their open format, and run one Winsystem with 
Office to receive their communiques.  (Printing to a file might help or 
to a computer which is masquerading as a plain-text printer, under 
Samba, for as long as the free software community can keep Samba 
compatible).

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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

[Michael Leone]

>I think Civileme's point was that if/when the UCITA law passes in
>Washington, USA, then Microsoft (headquartered in Washington) will be
>able to make a minor change to their proprietary .doc/.xls/whatever
>file formats, and it will be illegal for Sun or anyone else to
>reverse-engineer that file format to create a new filter for their
>competing office suite.

Sun licenses the file formats from MS, don't they? They didn't
reverse-engineer them, I thought.

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[newbie] sony cybershot dsc-s85 howto

[Paul Rodríguez]

I got this digital camera to work under linux and wanted to share my
experiences in case it ever comes up (while I still remember how).

I got this to work pretty easily.  You need USB and SCSI pre-compiled
into your kernel.  It is by default in Mandrake.  First I typed "insmod
usb-storage".  Then I added "usb-storage" to /etc/modules.  Then type
"mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbcam".  Then I added the camera to my
/etc/fstab by adding this line: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usbcam vfat   noauto,
user  0 0".  "noauto" means don't automount, good idea to maintain data
integrity.  "user" means a user other than root can mount it, also a
good idea.  And "0 0" means don't run fsck (file system check) on it.
Now you should be able to "mount /mnt/usbcam" and look through it like
any other device or directory.  Remember to "umount /mnt/usbcam" before
you power off or unplug the camera.  It's an important safety
precaution.

Should be same for at least the dsc-s75 as well.

Good luck.

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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

[Terry C]

> It may be that you need to modprobe 
> usb-storage and then mount it as /dev/sda1 

I have done modprobe usb-storage and mounting returns
this:

mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/camera
mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist

I have tried other mount points too: /dev/sda
/dev/sda2 /dev/sdb, along with the appropriate fstab
changes, and nothing has worked yet.

It was suggested to do MAKEDEV /dev/sda1 here's the
results of that attempt:

MAKEDEV /dev/sda1
don't know how to make device "/dev/sda1"

Here's some additional information from harddrake
under other devices:

Vendor: Microtech

Model: CameraMate SmartMedia and CompactFlash reader

Kernel Module: unknown

Bus Type: USB

Informations: This device hasn't been identified by
HardDrake, please send `/proc/bus/*' files and this
device ID `07af0006' to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>From what I have read so far it seems that some people
have had luck doing "modprobe usb-storage" and then
entering #mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/whatever. So
far I have not had luck doing this. I appreciate the
assistance given so far, and it appears others are
hoping that this issue can be resolved.
Thanks to all who have helped with this.

TC

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Re: [newbie] I Really Do Like Mandrake!

[Michel Clasquin]

On Monday 31 December 2001 14:06, Wes Gregg wrote:

>   I have heard horror stories of people screwing up OS installations, or
> even deleting/mangling the wrong file before they learned not to. 

Some of us have managed to do it afterwards too ... regular visits to the 
cooker will make you an expert on backing up your data!

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Re: [newbie] KDE Dialogs Too BIG!

[Michel Clasquin]

On Monday 31 December 2001 18:29, Randy Kramer wrote:
> Wes Gregg wrote:
> > Some of my program boxes in KDE are too big.  For example in
> > KDE ~ LooknFeel ~ Style, I can only see the top part of the box.  I
> > know I can resize it to some extent.  I shrank it from the top down as
> > far as it would let me (a good bit) and moved the box back to the top
> > of the screen.  It was still too big to see the options at the bottom
> > of the screen or the ok/apply/cancel/help checkboxes.

> I can't solve your problem, but here is a workaround: 
> anywhere in a window and "slide" it up or down so you can alternately
> view the buttons at the bottom or other stuff near the top.

I'm not in KDE at the moment, so this might be GTK-specific, but you could 
also try holding down , then click-n-hold the side frame of the 
window to move it up and down.

Better solution: get a graphics card that can handle 1024 x 768 : it seems 
to be the minimum that X designers plan for. If you juggle the screen 
fonts a little, 1024 x 768 can be quite useable even on a 14" monitor - 
that's what I have - and something like an ATI Mach 64 card should be 
very cheap.

Are you SURE your current card won't support a better resolution? It took 
me most of a day to persuade Mandrake 7.2 to get up to 1024 x 768 and i 
still don't know why it suddenly worked, but I did it eventually (mdk 8.x 
is much better at this, thanks guys). What does the card's manual say?

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Re: [newbie] Rune errors my machine

[Grant Fraser]

Experience with Windows has taught me to NEVER run anything DEMO. Ever. I 
wont do it with Linux either. A demo is made by ripping a chunk out of a full 
program and cauterizing the dangly bits. 

I hope you liked the magazine.

Grant

On Monday 31 December 2001 03:47, you wrote:
> I got a Linux magazine that had a demo software CD on it.
> I tried running a game, Rune, and had problems.
>
> When I run the run_demo.x86 or the run_demo it locks up my system. It looks
> like it starts to launch the game but just hoses my computer.
>
> How do I troubleshoot this? What could be wrong?
> Is it my Mandrake8.0 config or the game demo?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Allen


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Re: [newbie] Mesa: Missing These Files?

[s]

On Monday 31 December 2001 04:30 pm, you wrote:
>   Hello,
>
>   I may have figured out which files were removed from my system.  I
> searched for mesa in my software (package?) manager.  It had "?"'s by all
> the files in the files tab.  I clicked on the "?" mini-tab and it changed
> some to checkmarks, and some to X's.  I assume the X's mean it couldn't
> find those files.  Maybe those are the ones I accidentally removed.  They
> are:
>
> /usr/x11/r6/lib/libGL.so.1.0
> /usr/x11/r6/lib/libGL.so.1.2.030402
> /usr/x11/r6/lib/libMesaGL.so.1
> /usr/x11/r6/lib/libMesaGL.so.1.0
> /usr/x11/r6/lib/libMesaGL.so.3
>
>   Can I copy these from somewhere on one of my Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack
> cd's to the /usr/x11/r6/lib/ directory?  That _might_ be what's keeping my
> 3d/gl/gears&other 3d programs from loading?

you don't want those mesa libraries on there with nvidia gl libraries.  they 
conflict and can cause seg faults or lockups.  that was the point of sending 
you the nv_check.sh - to assist you in rm or mv those. 

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[newbie] Mesa: Missing These Files?

[Wes Gregg]

Hello,

I may have figured out which files were removed from my system.  I searched 
for mesa in my software (package?) manager.  It had "?"'s by all the files in 
the files tab.  I clicked on the "?" mini-tab and it changed some to 
checkmarks, and some to X's.  I assume the X's mean it couldn't find those 
files.  Maybe those are the ones I accidentally removed.  They are:

/usr/x11/r6/lib/libGL.so.1.0
/usr/x11/r6/lib/libGL.so.1.2.030402
/usr/x11/r6/lib/libMesaGL.so.1
/usr/x11/r6/lib/libMesaGL.so.1.0
/usr/x11/r6/lib/libMesaGL.so.3

Can I copy these from somewhere on one of my Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack 
cd's to the /usr/x11/r6/lib/ directory?  That _might_ be what's keeping my 
3d/gl/gears&other 3d programs from loading?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[Paul]

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:47:55 +, bascule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Monday 31 December 2001 12:21 pm, you wrote:
>odd, since you must have installed in the first place?
>what is your partition scheme, can you tar up your home directory and put it 
>somewhere else (a windrive?) and do a format and reinstall?
>alternatively you could describe in more detail what errors you get on boot 
>up and try to fix it without reinstalling - though how much help I would be 
>at this i don't know!

I think the problem resides in the fact that the installer determines the
space needed for writing the selected packages and then checks for enough free
space on the HD. Regardless if there is something to upgrade. I can also
imagine that there's quite some space needed for temp files...

Paul

>> It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
>> installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive..
>>
>> Eric

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Re: [newbie] where is source code go after I untar patch.bz2

[eric]

skidley wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, eric wrote:
> 
> > Dear skidley:
> >
> >   I actually have both somesource.patch.bz2 and somesouce.patch.bz2.orig
> > I tried your suggestion
> >
> > [root@localhost SOURCES]# bzcat gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2.orig
> > gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2 | patch -p0
> > can't find file to patch at input line 7
> > Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
> > The text leading up to this was:
> > --
> > |2000-09-06  Graham Stott  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > |
> > |   * config/i386/i386.h (ADDRESS_COST): Fix typo.
> > |
> > |--- gcc/config/i386/i386.h.jj  Mon Oct 23 22:51:33 2000
> > |+++ gcc/config/i386/i386.h Fri Oct 27 17:57:35 2000
> > --
> > File to patch:
> >
> > /***/
> > then what should I do, I tried many ways on that input demand, but keep
> > not successful.
> > Please help again.
> >
> > amother problem,
> > I download a glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk and replace my original 2.2.2 , but
> > may be not compatible with others, it ccause my g++ or gcc on c++
> > program can not compile well
> > so I try to erace it by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk
> >
> > it already runing 30 minutes, not yet down.  How should make it erace
> > then reinstall 2.2.2 from my cd?
> >
> > sincere eric lin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> The problem seems to be whatever you are trying to patch has a different
> directory name than the patch is looking for. Also why 2 patches? Maybe patch
> them separately. I would just rename the dir the patch is looking for to
> the name it wants.

Dear skidley or any linux programmers:

both 
gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2
gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2.orig
are in my 
/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES  
directory

please using command to explain how to get souce code out in addition to
English.

 Or you could manually type in each file to patch as
> it asks for them. Renaming the dir is much easier. There maybe another
> way to do this using the patch command w/o renaming the dir although I am not
> sure. As for the glibc-devel you can try rpm -Uvh --oldpackage to revert
> back to older version. Also you will want the same version of glibc.

I tried
[root@localhost cdrom]# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage  
Mandrake/RPMS/glibc-devel-2.2.2-* 
2.2.2 is my old package on cdrom, but this command still runing not down
so same problem 2.2.4 not be erased or not be replaced. by the above
command.

do anyone have suggestion to solve them?  Highly appreciate your tech
help
sincere eric, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ezinfocenter.com/4436786

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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[Pen Gwynne]

Civileme,

> Yep, reiser will help prevent the error.  So also will XFS and ext3.
>.
>.
>.
> It is a good idea to make /home a separate partition...

Thanks for the words of advice.  I have another partitiona that I can play 
with and I might just try one of the other file systems.

I have always kept /home on a separate disk or (at least) partition.  My 
personal is that the *only* way you can make sure that you have a clean, new 
install is if you have reformatted the drive!  Clean drive == clean install.

At least that's true in the MSFT world and I assume it holds here as well.  
If the partition is not reformatted then you're never sure if there isn't a 
"shard" left over from the previous installation that can get picked up by a 
program and cause some funny things to happen.



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[newbie] java applets on konqueror

[Eric McClure]

Ok I think I've tried everything to get the browser to see the applets.

Even sun's site doesn't load the applet.

Pointed Konqueror where the java is and nothing.

I'm using sdk1.4.0beta3 and I know Kaffe doesn't work with the browser since 
I viewed the help files and web site.  The web site made a reference to the 
/opt directory but mine is empty.

Netscape can see the applet, and mozilla at this moment is updating itself to 
see it too.

What can I do?
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Re: [newbie] Resolving HW conflicts

[Ed Tharp]

On Monday 31 December 2001 11:28, you wrote:



> Su to root and run: cat /proc/pci
>
> Since you are using 7.2 be sure that PnP OS is set to No
> in your BIOS.
also nice and your friend is (without the quotes, as root, in a text console) 
"cat /proc/interrupts"



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Re: [newbie] RPM or just a script?

[skinky]

On Monday 31 December 2001 15:24, Jon Doe wrote:
|  I am trying to make some sort of package for a friend who is new to
| linux. Basically I want replace the KDE splash screen with different
| screens. I made a script that will move the default png's to a new
| folder called old. This is as far as I got, I wasn't sure how an rpm
| worked, if it reads a script or what. What would everyone suggest to
| accomplish this? The easiest way for the newbie to get the pics in the
| right place.

I downloaded a nice splash screen called connectiva.  You just replace the 
four .png files in /usr/share/apps/ksplash/pics with the downloaded ones.

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RE: [newbie] Welcome Picture

[William R. Nash]

Try looking in /etc/lilo.conf

Hope this work 
Bill Nash.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Welcome Picture

On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:36 pm, you wrote:
> Heyo,
>
> Just a frivulous question, the picture that is shown @ boot time that
> has the 50 different ways to say hello, where is it located?
>
> I would like to change this to something different.
>
> NB

I think that's something you'd have to compile into the kernel.  :-P

Does it bother you that bad?
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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

[Larry Varney]

   I've been having problems getting my usb card reader to be recognized 
properly. I think I may have come upon some clues, anyway. When I have 
my card reader plugged in, with or without booting the computer with a 
card in the reader, a 'modprobe usb-storage' will result in an SDA being 
  created, and Hardrake sees the thing as a 1 gig scsi drive. Even if I 
remove the card, it still sees the card reader as a 1 gig drive.
   But I've found that if I plug in my usb-equipped Olympus C-700 (not 
listed in gPhoto, btw, and none of the other entries seem to want to 
work with it), I find that it is recoginzed, it sees that it has 64 
megabytes, and when I remove the card, Hardrake reflects that, giving a 
capacity of zero, and setting a couple of the other parameters to -1.
   I think that the misidentifying of the card reader's capacity is 
possibly part of the problem with mounting it - I am successful in 
mounting the Olympus. I don't know of a way to tell it, hey, this card 
reader is just 64 megs, or should be treated just like the camera when I 
plug it in.
   But at least I'm getting closer!

skidley wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, poogle wrote:
> 
> 
>>I may be completely off base here but I'll try anyway, I have an Olympus USB
>>camera which uses Smartmedia cards but is not recognised by any of the
>>"photo" packages.
>>Thanks to Ric Tibbets I am able to download from it by doing the following:-
>>
>>modprobe usb-storage
>>mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /mnt/cam (where /mnt/cam is the mountpoint I created)
>>
>>Checking Hardrake it shows my camera as a disk called /dev/sda, note it does
>>not show it as /dev/sda1 which it is but then HDs are shown as /dev/hda &
>>/dev/hdb, again no drive number. It may be that you need to modprobe
>>usb-storage and then mount it as /dev/sda1
>>
>>BTW, I don't know anything about saving to such a device.
>>
>>
> A drive doesn't have a number, partitions have numbers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] How to REMOVE GL libs/etc and nVidia 2313/2314?

[skinky]

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 03:53, Wes Gregg wrote:
[snip]
|   I also screwed something up because it gave me this line:
|  Wrote:  /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i686.rpm
|  somewhere along, I must have followed the wrong directions in more ways
| than one because I haven't tried to recompile my linux kernel with the
| i686 optimizations, it is just the regularly installed i586 version!

Wes, I don't think it matters that your kernel is i586.  Your system must 
be i686 which is why the driver was compiled i686.  That is the driver you 
install.  If it doesn't work (like it didn't for me - seg faults), I'm 
sure it has nothing to do with i586/i686.  Someone please correct me if 
I'm wrong.

The only nvidia driver I got to work with 3D is the one from 
www.mandrakeuser.org for the 2.4.8-26mdk (a few months back).  The only 
problem being that supermount doesn't work with that kernel.  Those 
drivers were:

NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1541.1mdk.i586.rpm
NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.8-26mdk-1.0-1541.2mdk.i586.rpm
(since I'm using the enterprise kernel I actually used this one:)
NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.8-26mdk-enterprise-1.0-1541.2mdk.i586.rpm

The nvidia drivers currently available at muo are built for the 
2.4.8-34.1mdk, so you could try installing that kernel 
(http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=kernel) and those 
drivers.  HTH

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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[daRcmaTTeR]

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:15:43 +
bascule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> can you type 'linux single' at the lilo prompt? this ought to boot into 
> single user mode, it's unusual in my experience for a single power cut to 
> trash a system to such a degree, i guess the first thing to do would be to 
it sounds as though quite a bit if system file damage has taken place and at this 
point it might be just as good an idea to just reload the entire system after a data 
file back up has been done.

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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

[skidley]

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, poogle wrote:

> I may be completely off base here but I'll try anyway, I have an Olympus USB
> camera which uses Smartmedia cards but is not recognised by any of the
> "photo" packages.
> Thanks to Ric Tibbets I am able to download from it by doing the following:-
>
> modprobe usb-storage
> mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /mnt/cam (where /mnt/cam is the mountpoint I created)
>
> Checking Hardrake it shows my camera as a disk called /dev/sda, note it does
> not show it as /dev/sda1 which it is but then HDs are shown as /dev/hda &
> /dev/hdb, again no drive number. It may be that you need to modprobe
> usb-storage and then mount it as /dev/sda1
>
> BTW, I don't know anything about saving to such a device.
>
A drive doesn't have a number, partitions have numbers.

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Re: [newbie] HardDrake/isapnp Prob

[Gerald Waugh]

On Monday 31 December 2001 01:17 pm, you wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2001 09:07:05 -0500
>
> Noah Swint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm trying to get my supported isa USR 56K  modem to work in Mandrake
> > 8.1.  I have isa-pnp  tools located on my computer and when I try to
> > configure the modem in HardDrake I get the error.
> >
> >
> >

I have inserted: 
append=" devfs=mount nobiospnp" 
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Re: [newbie] Welcome Picture

[s]

On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:36 pm, you wrote:
> Heyo,
>
> Just a frivulous question, the picture that is shown @ boot time that
> has the 50 different ways to say hello, where is it located?
>
> I would like to change this to something different.
>
> NB

I think that's something you'd have to compile into the kernel.  :-P

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Re: [newbie] Any nVidia TNT Users?

[s]

On Monday 31 December 2001 05:53 am, you wrote:

>
>   Silly me was still having lockups, I thought at the time it was the video
> since it was locking up during graphics.  It turned out to be my soundcard,
> but I didn't know at the time and reinstalled Linux to wipe the 1541
> drivers.

Here's another reference for you.  It's kinda long and detailed, but you 
might want to check it out.
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-hw2.html?dwzone=linux

>   I am wondering if my card is even able to take advantage of the extra
> features in the 20- series - as in the 2313/2314 drivers.  I know that it
> supports GL1.3 instead of just 1.2.  But I don't know what the difference
> is. Will that let me run more programs?  I would like to stay as current as
> possible on the graphics specification (the GL part?) for the inevitible
> time when nVidia drops the TNT's from their Unified Driver Architecture and
> I can no longer get updates.

Well, it won't be too soon.  Their drivers work with all their cards (except 
for the early riva128s & such).

>   BTW, I saw people talking about their fps in Mesa Gears(?) how do you tell
> this?  I would like to be optimistic and prepare for the someday when I get
> 3d again.

start it from a terminal, and the fps will display.
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Re: [newbie] where is source code go after I untar patch.bz2

[eric]

Dear skidley:

  I actually have both somesource.patch.bz2 and somesouce.patch.bz2.orig
I tried your suggestion

[root@localhost SOURCES]# bzcat gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2.orig
gcc-i386-address-cost.patch.bz2 | patch -p0
can't find file to patch at input line 7
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|2000-09-06  Graham Stott  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
|   * config/i386/i386.h (ADDRESS_COST): Fix typo.
|
|--- gcc/config/i386/i386.h.jj  Mon Oct 23 22:51:33 2000
|+++ gcc/config/i386/i386.h Fri Oct 27 17:57:35 2000
--
File to patch:

/***/
then what should I do, I tried many ways on that input demand, but keep
not successful.
Please help again.

amother problem, 
I download a glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk and replace my original 2.2.2 , but
may be not compatible with others, it ccause my g++ or gcc on c++
program can not compile well
so I try to erace it by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk

it already runing 30 minutes, not yet down.  How should make it erace
then reinstall 2.2.2 from my cd?

sincere eric lin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

skidley wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, eric wrote:
> 
> > Dear mandrake programmes:
> >
> >   after I tar xfvj  ...patch.bz2, where is the source code go?
> > sincer
> > eric lin
> >
> >
> You don't need to use tar on a filename with extension .bz2, you can use
> buzip2 or if this is a patch for a kernel or whatever. What I do for a
> kernel patch is `bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p0' (w/o quotes) because it
> will not mount the patch so to speak so the patch is left intact still
> compressed and the kernel is patched. Everyones happy.
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Re: [newbie] SSH Problem

[daRcmaTTeR]

On 31 Dec 2001 09:56:34 -0500
Noah Swint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Thanks. It works now. I guess when I upped the security level the
> mandrake added this line to my /etc/hosts.deny
> 
> # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line
> too.
> ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY

be careful not to loosen your security so much that getting into your system is too 
easy.

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Re: [newbie] My 3 year old computer, is it compatible?

[tester]

Michael Viron wrote:

>If it is a Pentium or above, you'll be able to install Mandrake.  If it's a
>486, you'll still be able to install Mandrake 7.0 for i486 (although that
>might be a bit sluggish).
>
>Michael
>
>--
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>Registered Linux User #81978
>Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
>Web Spinners, University of West Florida
>
>At 07:07 AM 12/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: 
>
>I have a 3 year old computer that is an NEC and it has a motherboard with a
>really old BIOS ( I don't know its name ) And it has about 64 megabytes of
>ram and a voodoo 3 or 4 video card and plug and play card with microphone,
>sound, phone port and another card that is an Ethernet card, will I be able
>to install mandrake or red hat on it? if not, someone tell me what to do (
>for ex: Sell it or use another distro etc. )   P.S oh yeah, I have a
>wireless mouse and a keyboard and a color printer and two speakers that
>just have the logo 'NEC' on it and a scanner and a NEC Multisync xv14 and I
>have 2 computers, the one I just told you about, and the one (the GOOD one
>with Viewsonic 17 inch monitor, some good sound card, some multimedia
>speaker, wireless ball wheel mouse, wireless keyboard, custom made
>computer, 48X CD Drive and a 6x max CDR drive and a floppy drive and a zip
>drive (external) Usb Card, 2 Ethernet cards and a plug and play card with
>all the ones the old one has except phone port, and Pentium 3 500 Mhz, 380
>megabyte of ram using MS WINDOWS ME Which I am quite pissed at) ANYWAYS
>don't get confused by my long description, just tell me yes or no if it is
>compatible (oh I almost forgot, need a new battery for it, you know, the
>little flat circle battery)
>

Hmm, without the battery, you may not be able to do much at all, because 
it keeps your configuration in CMOS RAM on the motherboard.

The newer computer is certainly compatible and will work as a dual-boot. 
 If the older one doesn't work with Mandrake, there is always 
Peanut-Linux, a 99Mb download with only one desktop (I believe they are 
using Enlightenment now).  

Civileme

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>
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Re: [newbie] SSH Problem

[Michael Viron]

At 01:33 PM 12/31/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Everything is working now.  I changed the security level and
>/etc/hosts.deny denied localhost connections
>

Actually, that was everything except for 'localhost' connections, since the
line you posted was 'ALL:ALL except localhost:DENY'

Michael

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[newbie] Resolving HW conflicts

[Mark Shaw]

Hi All,

Short version: I need a general methodology for determining what
resources my peripherals are using; i.e. a list of files to 
examine or diagnostics to run that will tell me that my soundcard
is using IRQ n / port m / DMA x / whatever y, my modem is using
IRQ etc etc

Long version: I'm running LM7.2 on an Asus/K7 platform with Winders 
Me in another set of partitions.  When I set this thing up I had a 
lot of trouble with the modem; finally got it working by forcing 
(via BIOS changes) the PCI slot the modem inhabits to use IRQ10 
instead of allowing it to autoconfigure, and reflecting this change 
in my setserial command (also sets it to tty4).

This mobo has onboard sound, so rather than invest in a soundcard I
just used that.  Winders liked that fine, but LM never saw it.  So
recently I bought a SoundBlaster 16, and finally installed it over
the weekend.  Winders likes this too; no problems there.

On the Linux side, however, the modem has quit responding.  The
sound card was detected and set up by sndconfig, and I do get sound,
but for some reason sndconfig thinks it's an Ensonic.

Obviously there's some sort of conflict.  So what I need to do is
either change the modem settings (in which case I need to know what
IRQs/ports/etc are free), change the SoundBlaster settings (in which
case I need to know the same *plus* the extra SB parameters for snd-
config), or ... well, or something else, you tell me.

Any help?  Thanks in advance

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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[Pen Gwynne]

>   I hope someone might be able to help me. I had a power loss at the
> house today and after the linux box rebooted it wouldn't boot into KDE..

I may have had a similar problem recently.  I was running Mandrake 8.1b3 on 
this box at the time of a power "flicker".  About a 1 second loss of power.  
It would hang during boot.  I didn't even make it to a terminal login.

I also have Debian installed on it.  I booted into Debian and fscked the 
partition with ML 8.1b3 on it.  I was able to reboot into Mandrake.  The next 
day The power flickered again.  So I did the same thing.  This time it booted 
into ML 8.1b3; but things just "weren't right".

My ultimate solution was to finally upgrade to the released version of 
Mandrake 8.1 **and** buy a UPS (uninterruptable power supply).

The Mandrake partition is an ext2 filesystem.  The experience had made me 
want to look into the reiserfs at some point.  Or perhaps the ext3 file 
system.

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[newbie] Euro symbol?

[Paul]

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out how to display and enter the Euro symbol.
Is there someone here who can tell me what to do for this to work?

I am running XFCE on Mandrake 8.0.

Thanks
Paul

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Re: [newbie] c compiler and its problem in 8.0

[Pen Gwynne]

Eric,

Please do "gcc -v" or "cc -v" and tell us what it says.  I have the following 
4 line program:

int main()
  {
  printf("Hello World!");
  }

It compiles and run properly, even without the normal "#include" files.  I am 
using a straight Mandrake 8.1 installation and my version of gcc is 2.96 
2731.

Now let me say this.  My prompt is the normal, or default

[pen@myhost dir]$

When I run the program what I see is:

Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$
 
You should also be aware of one more "funny" thing that Linux does.  After 
running a.out, the hello world example, As soon as I type something, 
anything, then the hello world program output and my prompt line:

Hello World![pen@myhost dir]$

is comes just:

[pen@myhost dir]$

It looks like the program never printed anything at all.

Hope this helps.
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Re: [newbie] Capturing audio

[bascule]

what do you mean by usable?

there is 'rec' for the command line (you probably have this installed already 
try 'rec --help' at a prompt, in gui i use 'audacity' which is on cooker if 
not the main distro, and is an mdk rpm, as for the device file i keep reading 
about how devfs uses different device file names than the old system maybe 
this is where you are becoming unstuck?

bascule

On Monday 31 December 2001 1:59 pm, you wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for a usable program for capturing audio from my
> soundcard.
>
> I've hunted all over Freshmeat and Google but don't seem to
> be abble to find anything which compiles let alone works!!
>
> If it's of any help I'm running Mandrake 8.1, kernel 2.4.16.
> Biggest problem is locating the device file, everything seems
> to be looking for /dev/dsp but doesn't find it :-(((
>
> Any suggestions most welcome
>
> Cheers
>
> John



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Re: [newbie] Make : tex Command

[Tom Brinkman]

On Sunday 30 December 2001 11:27 pm, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Further to my late posting
> Sorry,  I made a mistake adding '~$' to the command line
>
> Tried at root /
> # which tex /usr/bin/tex
> /usr/bin/which: no tex in
> (/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/
>local/bin:/root/bin)...
>
>
> what I have been missing ?

   S already gave you the right answer, you need to install a tetex 
rpm.  Should be one on your CD's.  I'd only add tho you don't need to 
be root, and the query is simply 'which '.  which is an 
alias on your system. Type 'alias' and one of the listings should be  
 alias which='type -path'
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[newbie] My 3 year old computer, is it compatible?

[Richard Kim]

I have a 3 year old computer that is an NEC and it has a motherboard with a really old BIOS ( I don't know its name ) And it has about 64 megabytes of ram and a voodoo 3 or 4 video card and plug and play card with microphone, sound, phone port and another card that is an Ethernet card, will I be able to install mandrake or red hat on it? if not, someone tell me what to do ( for ex: Sell it or use another distro etc. )   P.S oh yeah, I have a wireless mouse and a keyboard and a color printer and two speakers that just have the logo 'NEC' on it and a scanner and a NEC Multisync xv14 and I have 2 computers, the one I just told you about, and the one (the GOOD one with Viewsonic 17 inch monitor, some good sound card, some multimedia speaker, wireless ball wheel mouse, wireless keyboard, custom made computer, 48X CD Drive and a 6x max CDR drive and a floppy drive and a zip drive (external) Usb Card, 2 Ethernet cards and a plug and play card with all the ones the old one has except phone port, and Pentium 3 500 Mhz, 380 megabyte of ram using MS WINDOWS ME Which I am quite pissed at) ANYWAYS don't get confused by my long description, just tell me yes or no if it is compatible (oh I almost forgot, need a new battery for it, you know, the little flat circle battery)--Always Expect The Unexpected-Richard Kim--Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Re: [newbie] SSH Problem

[Noah Swint]

Thanks. It works now. I guess when I upped the security level the
mandrake added this line to my /etc/hosts.deny

# Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line
too.
ALL:ALL EXCEPT localhost:DENY


On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 09:38, daRcmaTTeR wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2001 08:58:19 -0500
> Noah Swint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
> 
> > Whenever I attempt to connect to my machine using ssh I get the error.
> > 
> > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
> > 
> > Any help?  I can connect to other machines, just not mine and the server
> > is running.
> 
> check your /etc/hosts.deny file and see if the IP address you're attempting to 
>connect from is in that file. If it is you're being blocked.
> 
> -- 
> daRcmaTTeR
> -
> If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do
> the first time!
> 
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> Mandrake 8.1
> -
>   9:05am  up 15 days, 54 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.19, 0.17
> 
> 
> 

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[newbie] How to REMOVE GL libs/etc and nVidia 2313/2314?

[Wes Gregg]

Hello,

I believe I have been asking the wrong questions.  I think I need to remove 
my gl things and my 2313/2314 GLX/kernels.  I am pretty sure I now have the 
correct commands to install these if I can get back to a "clean" system 
first.  Hopefully one of you guru's can tell me how to do this without 
reinstalling Linux.

I have the i586 linux kernel, single processor.  I downloaded 2313/14 source 
rpms and told it to upgrade instead of install (I hadn't installed any before 
on this system/linux install).  I read on nVidia's site/pdf that upgrading 
the GLX causes some things to be mistakenly removed.  So when I put the line 
to load the glx module into my xf86config-4 file my nVidia splash screen went 
away.  Without this line I have the splash, but neither way has gl/3d support 
for me (I screwed up!).

I also screwed something up because it gave me this line:
Wrote:  /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i686.rpm
somewhere along, I must have followed the wrong directions in more ways than 
one because I haven't tried to recompile my linux kernel with the i686 
optimizations, it is just the regularly installed i586 version!

Looking to fix this SOON!

Thanks for your help and patience,
Wes Gregg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [newbie] SSH Problem

[daRcmaTTeR]

On 31 Dec 2001 08:58:19 -0500
Noah Swint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

> Whenever I attempt to connect to my machine using ssh I get the error.
> 
> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
> 
> Any help?  I can connect to other machines, just not mine and the server
> is running.

check your /etc/hosts.deny file and see if the IP address you're attempting to connect 
from is in that file. If it is you're being blocked.

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the first time!

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-
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Re: [newbie] RE: Office Suites

[Dave Sherman]

On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 17:52, Doug Lerner wrote:
> I wouldn't mind doing that myself, and encouraging our company to do
> that. I have no particular love for Microsoft proprietary products. But I
> can't force our customers to change. As we say here in Japan, "the
> customer is God." If the client wants to send me an Office file I have to
> be able to see it. And I have to be able to send something back to the
> customer that they can open.
> 
> doug

I hear you. As a consultant, I deal with customers' Word and Excel docs
on a daily basis. For my own work, I use StarOffice 6 beta, and all my
files are saved in SO's native xml formats. When I need to send a
document to a customer, I export it to the appropriate MS Office format,
then send it to them. I also, without trying to sound like a zealot or
something, warn them about these kinds of things, so they aren't
surprised when it finally happens.

There's a really good article at:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200104/200104.htm
which I found very informative, and which I emailed several of my
customers. They are all ignoring my warnings, but I will have the last
laugh, and will likely make a *really* good living when they suddenly
need to convert their systems and data...

Dave
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Fw: Re: [newbie] Major problem

[Charles A Edwards]

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:13:53 -0500
From: Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem


On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:49:47 -0500
lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When you do the upgrade,make sure you're not installing any new packages :-)
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> > It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
> > installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive..
> >
  

Doing either and Upgrade or Install requires a set amount of free
disk space.
This amount is equal to that required for a minimal install and must
be present prior to pkg selection even if the entent is to install no 
additional pkgs.

You could try booting 'failsafe' and start only the 'basic' and absolutly 
necessary services, X is not a necessary service.
Once you reach the login try resetting your X config then startx.

Depending upon what type of power outage you suffered as well as if
your machine was strck by unincumbered surges you may have well also
suffered hardware damage.


   Charles
 





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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[bascule]

can you type 'linux single' at the lilo prompt? this ought to boot into 
single user mode, it's unusual in my experience for a single power cut to 
trash a system to such a degree, i guess the first thing to do would be to 
check your filesystems by booting into single user mode, booting off the cd 
and choosing 'rescue' or using something like 'tomsrtbt' and then running 
e2fsck on your linux partitions, it's a wild guess but if trying an upgrade 
with the same distro you already have installed and not choosing any extra 
packages (whcih should therefore require no extra space) gives an 
'insufficient space' error then your database of installed packages might be 
broken making the installer think you have less installed than you do and 
requiring space to 'put back' what it thinks is missing! the only thing i 
know about fixing rpm database problems is to run #rpm --rebuilddb as root, 
but of course this assume you can get to a prompt! 
you haven't said where your /home is so i'm assuming it''s not on its own 
partition, if you cannot tar it up and put on another partition and you have 
no other way to back it up then you may have to reinstall by first manually 
deleting everything but /home and then doing the install but choosing not to 
format the partition, this would be a last resort thing though since make a 
mistake and you will have lost your stuff!
to fix stuff to do with run-levels is a little beyond me i'm afraid, the 
theory of etc/.../rc0 etc. is simple enough but creating the individual 
scripts that go into each directory is way over my head!
if you can get to a prompt then perhaps you can repair your system with help 
from 'the experts'

but if it was me and i was on my own i would be trying to reinstall without 
formatting and thus keeping /home,

at your own risk yada yada:-)

bascule


On Monday 31 December 2001 12:57 pm, you wrote:
> It seems that the updater is looking for a a bunch of free space for
> some strange reason and it wont just overwrite the stuff that is there..
> basically my problem is this:
>
> When I boot Linux it asks me to enter a run level. When I enter a
> runlevel it hangs. It says no more processes or something to that
> affect... It used to load into KME prior to the power loss yesterday and
> hasn't been the same since. I have tried several things but this is I am
> guessing my only resort in updating it. I am running 8.1 and upgrading
> to 8.1 hoping that it will fix this wonderful problem.. I currently have
> no network access with the box cause that wont load up. I thought about
> the BFH but didn't have one available..
>
> Did that help at all or is it because I haven't slept in over 24 hours
> that I might be rambling on?
>
> Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem
>
> On Monday 31 December 2001 12:21 pm, you wrote:
> odd, since you must have installed in the first place?
> what is your partition scheme, can you tar up your home directory and
> put it
> somewhere else (a windrive?) and do a format and reinstall?
> alternatively you could describe in more detail what errors you get on
> boot
> up and try to fix it without reinstalling - though how much help I would
> be
> at this i don't know!
>
> bascule
>
> > It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
> > installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive..
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:38 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem
> >
> > do an 'upgrade' from your cd, this will not format any partitions and
> > should
> > leave your /home alone
> >
> > bascule
>
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[newbie] HardDrake/isapnp Prob

[Noah Swint]

I'm trying to get my supported isa USR 56K  modem to work in Mandrake
8.1.  I have isa-pnp  tools located on my computer and when I try to
configure the modem in HardDrake I get the error.



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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[Mohammed Arafa 2 Mailing Lists]

i dont really like upgrades coz it takes 16 hours or so as opposed to 1 to 2
hours of an install ..but its up to u of course

- Original Message -
From: "lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem


> When you do the upgrade,make sure you're not installing any new packages
:-)
>
> Lee
>
>
>
> > It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
> > installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive..
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:38 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem
> >
> > do an 'upgrade' from your cd, this will not format any partitions and
> > should
> > leave your /home alone
> >
> > bascule
> >
> > On Monday 31 December 2001 10:56 am, you wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >   I hope someone might be able to help me. I had a power loss at the
> > > house today and after the linux box rebooted it wouldn't boot into
> >
> > KDE.
> >
> > > IT booted into a login prompt. I was able to login as root or my user
> > > name. When I Rebooted the machine in booted into screen and asked me
> >
> > to
> >
> > > enter a run level. When I tried 1 3 or 5 or 6 it would just hang. Only
> > > way I Am able to log into my box is to boot of CDROM and login using
> > > RESCUE. Well I don't have any clue how to fix my problem of not being
> > > able to boot in. I would reload Linux but I CANT loose my /HOME
> > > directory. Any tips? Suggestions? ETC??
> > >
> > > Thank you! Happy New Year!
> > >
> > > Eric
> >
> > _
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> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>






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[newbie] Capturing audio

[John Rye]

Hi all,

I'm looking for a usable program for capturing audio from my
soundcard.

I've hunted all over Freshmeat and Google but don't seem to
be abble to find anything which compiles let alone works!!

If it's of any help I'm running Mandrake 8.1, kernel 2.4.16.
Biggest problem is locating the device file, everything seems
to be looking for /dev/dsp but doesn't find it :-(((

Any suggestions most welcome

Cheers

John

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Re: [newbie] Firewall Configuration

[Randy Kramer]

Jamie Fowlie wrote:
> Present setup:
> 
>  Internet <> ROUTER (212.51.61.xxx) <---> NT Server NIC 1
> (212.51.61.xxy)
> NT Server 
>NIC 2 (10.10.10.1) <---> Linux/PCs(10.10.10.n)
> 
> (Windows NT is running WINROUTE lite to handle portmapping)
> 
> Desired:
> 
> Internet <> ROUTER (212.51.61.xxx) <---> Linux FIREWALL NIC 1
> (212.51.61.xxy)>All servers/PCs (10.10.10.n)
> 
> Question: Is it absolutely necessary to have two NICs in my firewall box?

Yes!  (Aside: I presume you are using 10(or 100)BaseT (twisted pair) and
you have a hub, switch, or similar to connect all your servers, but the
answer is the same if you are using coax (10Base2).)  Think of the
Firewall as a filter.  It prevents certain traffic on one side of it
from getting to the other side.  If you have only one NIC, the traffic
appearing on one side that you don't want to get to the other side is
all on one NIC -- i.e., it gets to both sides and the firewall is not
doing it's job.

Randy Kramer

> One for the outside connection (212. etc) and another to handle the LAN
> (192.168. etc)? Or can I manage the entire steup with one NIC?



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[newbie] SSH Problem

[Noah Swint]

Whenever I attempt to connect to my machine using ssh I get the error.

ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

Any help?  I can connect to other machines, just not mine and the server
is running.




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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[lee]

When you do the upgrade,make sure you're not installing any new packages :-)

Lee



> It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
> installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive..
>
> Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem
>
> do an 'upgrade' from your cd, this will not format any partitions and
> should
> leave your /home alone
>
> bascule
>
> On Monday 31 December 2001 10:56 am, you wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >   I hope someone might be able to help me. I had a power loss at the
> > house today and after the linux box rebooted it wouldn't boot into
>
> KDE.
>
> > IT booted into a login prompt. I was able to login as root or my user
> > name. When I Rebooted the machine in booted into screen and asked me
>
> to
>
> > enter a run level. When I tried 1 3 or 5 or 6 it would just hang. Only
> > way I Am able to log into my box is to boot of CDROM and login using
> > RESCUE. Well I don't have any clue how to fix my problem of not being
> > able to boot in. I would reload Linux but I CANT loose my /HOME
> > directory. Any tips? Suggestions? ETC??
> >
> > Thank you! Happy New Year!
> >
> > Eric
>
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RE: [newbie] Major problem

[Eric Budinger]

It seems that the updater is looking for a a bunch of free space for
some strange reason and it wont just overwrite the stuff that is there..
basically my problem is this:

When I boot Linux it asks me to enter a run level. When I enter a
runlevel it hangs. It says no more processes or something to that
affect... It used to load into KME prior to the power loss yesterday and
hasn't been the same since. I have tried several things but this is I am
guessing my only resort in updating it. I am running 8.1 and upgrading
to 8.1 hoping that it will fix this wonderful problem.. I currently have
no network access with the box cause that wont load up. I thought about
the BFH but didn't have one available.. 

Did that help at all or is it because I haven't slept in over 24 hours
that I might be rambling on?

Eric


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem

On Monday 31 December 2001 12:21 pm, you wrote:
odd, since you must have installed in the first place?
what is your partition scheme, can you tar up your home directory and
put it 
somewhere else (a windrive?) and do a format and reinstall?
alternatively you could describe in more detail what errors you get on
boot 
up and try to fix it without reinstalling - though how much help I would
be 
at this i don't know!

bascule

> It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
> installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive..
>
> Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem
>
> do an 'upgrade' from your cd, this will not format any partitions and
> should
> leave your /home alone
>
> bascule
>
>



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Re: [newbie] neither will install

[Derek Jennings]

We would have more chance of helping if you told us what the error message 
was.
What are the 'certain packages'.
What hardware you are using. i.e. motherboard processor video card, sound 
card.

the more info you give the more likely you are to get an answer...

derek



On Monday 31 December 2001 13:29, you wrote:
> Dear List,
> I have tried to install Mandrake 8.0 and 8.1 and both fail at the point of
> installing the packages. The only difference is that 8.1 gives me an error
> message, while 8.0 just locks up the computer. The message has to do with
> calling certain packages that fail.
> Does anyone know what this stems from and the fix?
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck



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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[bascule]

On Monday 31 December 2001 12:21 pm, you wrote:
odd, since you must have installed in the first place?
what is your partition scheme, can you tar up your home directory and put it 
somewhere else (a windrive?) and do a format and reinstall?
alternatively you could describe in more detail what errors you get on boot 
up and try to fix it without reinstalling - though how much help I would be 
at this i don't know!

bascule

> It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
> installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive..
>
> Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem
>
> do an 'upgrade' from your cd, this will not format any partitions and
> should
> leave your /home alone
>
> bascule
>
>



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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[Mohammed Arafa 2 Mailing Lists]

bill,
u can do a fresh install .. leave the partitions as 
they are when u get to diskdrake BUT beware that u dont format ur /home 
partition.
in diskdrake ..take note which partition is /home 
and DEselect it.
of course .u lose all ur programs if u do 
this

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric Budinger 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:56 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Major problem
  
  
  Hi 
  All,
   
    I hope someone might be able to help 
  me. I had a power loss at the house today and after the linux box rebooted it wouldn’t boot into KDE. IT booted 
  into a login prompt. I was able to login as root or my user name. When I 
  Rebooted the machine in booted into screen and asked me to enter a run level. 
  When I tried 1 3 or 5 or 6 it would just hang. Only way I Am able to log into 
  my box is to boot of CDROM and login using RESCUE. Well I don’t have any clue 
  how to fix my problem of not being able to boot in. I would reload Linux but I 
  CANT loose my /HOME directory. Any tips? Suggestions? 
  ETC?? 
   
  Thank you! Happy New 
  Year!
   
  Eric
   
   

[newbie] neither will install

[Charles Jennings]

Dear List,
I have tried to install Mandrake 8.0 and 8.1 and both fail at the point of 
installing the packages. The only difference is that 8.1 gives me an error 
message, while 8.0 just locks up the computer. The message has to do with 
calling certain packages that fail.
Does anyone know what this stems from and the fix?

Thanks, 
Chuck



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RE: [newbie] Major problem

[Eric Budinger]

It tells me I don't have enough space (hard drive space) for
installation or upgrade.. It's an 800 meg hard drive.. 

Eric


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bascule
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Major problem

do an 'upgrade' from your cd, this will not format any partitions and
should 
leave your /home alone

bascule

On Monday 31 December 2001 10:56 am, you wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>   I hope someone might be able to help me. I had a power loss at the
> house today and after the linux box rebooted it wouldn't boot into
KDE.
> IT booted into a login prompt. I was able to login as root or my user
> name. When I Rebooted the machine in booted into screen and asked me
to
> enter a run level. When I tried 1 3 or 5 or 6 it would just hang. Only
> way I Am able to log into my box is to boot of CDROM and login using
> RESCUE. Well I don't have any clue how to fix my problem of not being
> able to boot in. I would reload Linux but I CANT loose my /HOME
> directory. Any tips? Suggestions? ETC??
>
> Thank you! Happy New Year!
>
> Eric



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[newbie] I Really Do Like Mandrake!

[Wes Gregg]

Hello,

I wanted to let you all know that I really _do_ like Mandrake's flavor of 
Linux.  I am trying to find a cheap computer for my father who has terminal 
cancer and can't get around and do anything like he used to so he will have 
something to do instead of just staring at the wall.  I feel that with 8.1 
(the first version I've seen in use) I could install and set up his computer 
and he would be able to use it in the GUI without actually knowing the 
console or all the specifics of Linux..  In fact he could probbably perform 
an expert installation just by paying attention and following along in the 
Installation and User Guide.

I have heard horror stories of people screwing up OS installations, or even 
deleting/mangling the wrong file before they learned not to.  I don't think 
this need ever happen again with Mandrake.  (Root notwithstanding, but with 
the red screen and warnings that should be safe also.)

Yet another reason why Mandrake should allocate some of their budget to 
advertising the retail desktop market.  A desktop on display at  running several virtual desktops with different 
apps/games would sell some OS's!  Or even a TV commercial on network TV.

Later,
Wes Gregg
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[newbie] Any nVidia TNT Users?

[Wes Gregg]

My apologies, I forgot to sign my last post.

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[newbie] Any nVidia TNT Users?

[Wes Gregg]

Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone else is using Mandrake Linux 8.1 with an 
nVidia TNT (16meg if it matters) AGP card.  What I'm wondering is if there is 
any point in installing the later (20- series) drivers.  I installed the 1541 
[NOTE:  On a previous Linux install - NOT CURRENTLY ON MY SYSTEM] drivers and 
they did work to the extent that I could play TuxRacer, look at Mesa 
gears/morph/reflect.

Silly me was still having lockups, I thought at the time it was the video 
since it was locking up during graphics.  It turned out to be my soundcard, 
but I didn't know at the time and reinstalled Linux to wipe the 1541 drivers.

I am wondering if my card is even able to take advantage of the extra 
features in the 20- series - as in the 2313/2314 drivers.  I know that it 
supports GL1.3 instead of just 1.2.  But I don't know what the difference is. 
Will that let me run more programs?  I would like to stay as current as 
possible on the graphics specification (the GL part?) for the inevitible time 
when nVidia drops the TNT's from their Unified Driver Architecture and I can 
no longer get updates.

Looking for someone else with my type of card to discuss this with.  
Wondering if you noticed any differences (good or bad) when you went to the 
2313/2314 drivers.  I know some with newer cards have noticed more fps.

BTW, I saw people talking about their fps in Mesa Gears(?) how do you tell 
this?  I would like to be optimistic and prepare for the someday when I get 
3d again.

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[newbie] Rune errors my machine

[Allen May]

I got a Linux magazine that had a demo software CD 
on it. 
I tried running a game, Rune, and had 
problems.
 
When I run the run_demo.x86 or the run_demo it 
locks up my system. It looks like it starts to launch the game but just hoses my 
computer.
 
How do I troubleshoot this? What could be 
wrong?
Is it my Mandrake8.0 config or the game 
demo?
 
Thanks
 
-Allen

Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

[poogle]

I may be completely off base here but I'll try anyway, I have an Olympus USB 
camera which uses Smartmedia cards but is not recognised by any of the 
"photo" packages.
Thanks to Ric Tibbets I am able to download from it by doing the following:-

modprobe usb-storage
mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /mnt/cam (where /mnt/cam is the mountpoint I created)

Checking Hardrake it shows my camera as a disk called /dev/sda, note it does 
not show it as /dev/sda1 which it is but then HDs are shown as /dev/hda & 
/dev/hdb, again no drive number. It may be that you need to modprobe 
usb-storage and then mount it as /dev/sda1 

BTW, I don't know anything about saving to such a device.

On Monday 31 December 2001 04:27 am, you wrote:
> I've seen several threads concerning people trying to
> make USB compact flash/smart media readers work, but
> this hasn't been fully resolved in all cases. I have
> been reading this thread because I have a USB
> microtech compact flash card reader and I have been
> having the same problem attempting to mount it as
> others have.
> Here's the information from Harddrake:
>
> Vendor: eUSB
> Model: Compact Flash
> Device: /dev/sda
> Bus Type: SCSI
> Capacity: 1047 MB
> Heads: 64
> Sectors: 32
> Cylinders: 1023
>
> Here's my fstab entry:
>
> /dev/sda  /media/camera vfat ro,noauto,user  0 0
>
> This is the response I get when attempting to mount
> this device:
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/camera
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
> /dev/sda, or too many mounted file systems
>
> I hope someone can shed some light on why this won't
> mount.
> Thanks for the help.
>
> TC
>
>
>
>



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Re: [newbie] Major problem

[bascule]

do an 'upgrade' from your cd, this will not format any partitions and should 
leave your /home alone

bascule

On Monday 31 December 2001 10:56 am, you wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>   I hope someone might be able to help me. I had a power loss at the
> house today and after the linux box rebooted it wouldn't boot into KDE.
> IT booted into a login prompt. I was able to login as root or my user
> name. When I Rebooted the machine in booted into screen and asked me to
> enter a run level. When I tried 1 3 or 5 or 6 it would just hang. Only
> way I Am able to log into my box is to boot of CDROM and login using
> RESCUE. Well I don't have any clue how to fix my problem of not being
> able to boot in. I would reload Linux but I CANT loose my /HOME
> directory. Any tips? Suggestions? ETC??
>
> Thank you! Happy New Year!
>
> Eric



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Re: [newbie] nVidia Splash Screen - Yes 3D/OpenGL - No!

[Wes Gregg]

On Saturday 29 December 2001 03:09 pm, you wrote:
> On Saturday 29 December 2001 01:44 pm, you wrote:
> > > > Is this  repairable without major surgery?
> > >
> > > Load  "glx"
> >
> > Well, I forgot to add that line, so I went back and did so.  Now it
> > doesn't even display the splash screen and it is still a delay with the
> > program title on the bar on the bottom of the screen with the busy cursor
> > on it and then after a while it is as if I never tried to load the app.
>
> Well, I don't really like to use their rpms.  I suggest the tarballs.  Then
> if you edited your XF86Config-4 file, you still need to rm or mv
> conflicting libraries.  There's an old script still around called
> nv_check.sh that I like to run after the installation of nvidia's drivers
> to remove any conflicts.
>
> It doesn't change anything, it just tells you what you need to do.
> -s

Hi,

I saved that little program you sent me to my system, but when I tried to 
run it (from a text "console(?)") but my system apparently didn't recognize 
it as a program.  It couldn't run it for me.

What I think I need to do is figure out how to remove all my nVidia and GL 
stuff as I seem to have mangled it.  Then I need to reinstall it fresh.  I 
would very much like to keep Mandrake Linux 8.1 installed, every time I 
reinstall it sets us back.

I assume that package manager might be able to help me, but I don't know.  I 
really don't want to be forever without 3d/GL routines.  But if my only 
option is yet another reinstall of Mandrake...  I probbably won't do it.  I 
have had no end of trouble with all of this.  I understand a lot (most) of it 
was my fault, not knowing I had to update my BIOS before my system would 
stabalize, trying all kinds of different settings to get it to work, finally 
getting the bios upgraded, then having to work thru my settings over and 
over, finally getting it to stabalize and let me use my 
mouse/keyboard/sound

Somewhere along this path I was able to log into "Mandrake Expert 
Installation Support" or "Mandrake Online" or something-or-other.  I thought 
that was great except I seem to have screwed that up because on subsequent 
reinstalls of Linux I try and it tells me my registration "number" is 
invalid.  I sent a letter to support@mandrakeexpert (whatever it was) and was 
told to send them my #.  About seven reinstalls later it was stable enough to 
use email again so I sent it to them and never even got a reply.  I really 
like the software, but the whole reason I bought ManLin 8.1 Powerpack from 
the Mandrake site was for the install/setup support.  A month later, I still 
don't have it.  The only support of any kind I have ever gotten is from you 
kind folks on this list and from a man named Paul Woodward from the UK.

I realize in the spirit of Linux I should assume that I won't get anything 
from the company that I got my distribution from - but Mandrake is apparently 
a "for-profit" company with stock and such.  They advertise on the site (and 
on the box) installation support.  If I had had such a creature I would have 
been able to use linux this month instead of trying to install/screwing 
up/trying to install/repeat indefinately.  Kind of a dirty way to run a 
company if you ask me.

Tired of pulling my hair out trying to move forward only to fall and slide 
back down the hill on my a**!

Sorry to vent.  My question is buried in there somewhere,
Wes Gregg
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Re: [newbie] USB smart media reader

[Ed Tharp]

On Monday 31 December 2001 01:05, you wrote:
> On Sunday 30 December 2001 23:38, you wrote:
> > MAKDEV, or makdev, or mkdev don't seem to be the
> > correct commands. I just keep getting "command not
> > found".
> >
> > TC
> >
> > > try this, MAKDEV /dev/sda1
> > >
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[newbie] Major problem

[Eric Budinger]

Hi All,

 

  I hope someone might
be able to help me. I had a power loss at the house today and after the linux box rebooted it wouldn’t boot into KDE. IT
booted into a login prompt. I was able to login as root or my user name. When I
Rebooted the machine in booted into screen and asked me to enter a run level.
When I tried 1 3 or 5 or 6 it would just hang. Only way I Am able to log into
my box is to boot of CDROM and login using RESCUE. Well I don’t have any
clue how to fix my problem of not being able to boot in. I would reload Linux
but I CANT loose my /HOME directory. Any tips? Suggestions?
ETC?? 

 

Thank you! Happy New Year!

 

Eric

 

 

Re: [newbie] How to correctly change Lilo Configuration

[Onur Kucuk]

DB> Awhile back a few users where asking about changing their lilo 
DB> configurations and I remember some other users suggesting that they VI their 
DB> lilo config.  This in itself does not work.  I knew that but had to get 
DB> caught up with other things before looking further.  Anyway, to change the 
DB> default OS that lilo boots up in while in a root status in a shell type in 
DB> this line:
DB> lilo -D Windows
DB> this will change lilo from it's default Linux boot up to Windows.  The lower 
DB> case d can be important too, but that's another email.  Happy New Year to all.

DB> Dan B


 You can change your /etc/lilo.conf with anything you like, mc, pico,
 vi, adding lines with echo or changing from x windows.

 But whatever you do, to make it work, you have to execute "lilo"
 to make your changes written to proper places.

 Happy new year :)

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[newbie] the MANDRAKE way to look at $PATH

[Andrei Raevsky]

Dear Michel & daRcmaTTeR

Take a look at the Bash script (in ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile (or 
~/.bash_profile)which loads the profile from each user.  It actually takes 
the info from /etc (I don't remember from which file exactly).  I tried 
removing this script - but the script in /etc is, I think, designed to still 
export its "typical" profile even when the user's profile files are changes. 
  I am unsure about this as I don't understand the Bash syntax.  This is, I 
think, something specific to Mandrake and which must be designed for the 
ease to add users having an immediately working $PATH variable.

My problem is - how to I over-rule this and change, say, ONE user's $PATH 
without messing with the /etc script which affects ALL users.

Cheers,

Andrei



Andrei,

Edit ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile) -- I can't remember which
one the PATH variable itself is found in.

Michael

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At 10:05 PM 12/29/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello,
>I would like to add a subdirectory to my $PATH.  I triend the "export"
>command but it told me that it is not valid.  Mandrake seems to offer a
>shared path to all users taken from bashrc (I am not sure about this).  How
>could I edit ONLY MY PATH (my user path - not my root which I don't want to
>touch even if I find it) without affecting the one of the other users on my
>machine?
>Thanks,
>Andrei
>
-

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 19:31:25 -0600
Michael Viron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> studiouisly spake these words to 
ponder:

>Andrei,
>
>Edit ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile) -- I can't remember which
>one the PATH variable itself is found in.
>
>Michael
>

You could also enter this command in a terminal.

PATH=$PATH:/some/path/to/be/added

example:

PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin

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-

you know...now that we're on the subject i'm a little unclear as to just how
this "PATH" thing works. for a bit I couldn't remember how I could get to 
the
screen exactly "what" my path was until I typed this in a terminal:

which path

this is what was returned:

[mdw1982@mdw1982 mdw1982]$ which path
which: no path in
(/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home
/mdw1982/bin)

what "I" don't understand is just how this all works. I've always brought
"things" into my path by issuing the statement above since using

export PATH=$PATH:/some/path/statement

pnly enters the path statement temporarily whereas the former enters the 
path
permenantly.

can some shed a little more light on this? this has really got my curiosity
peaked.

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this is correct, since the program 'path' does not exist in your $PATH (the
shell variable).  It's the same as trying to use a program not in your
path.  For example, if you installed staroffice into /opt/soffice, then
since '/opt/soffice' isn't in your $PATH, you'd have to specify
specifically where the file is until you added the command 'export
PATH=$PATH:/opt/soffice' to your the .bashrc / .profile / .bash_profile 
file.

>what "I" don't understand is just how this all works. I've always brought
"things" into my path by issuing the statement above since using
>
>   export PATH=$PATH:/some/path/statement
>
>pnly enters the path statement temporarily whereas the former enters the
path permenantly.
>
Nope.  Actually, neither adds it 'permanently'.  The only way to do so is
edit the .profile or .bashrc or .bash_profile file and add it to the
setting for PATH.


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[newbie] Blue iMac OpenFirmware problem?

[David Bovill]

I seem to have installed Mandrake on my iMac, but as indicated may happen
openfirmware does not detect the linux partition on startup...

The documentation differs from the infor at the end of installation and I
could get neither to work... I can get the Openfirmware console up and I
type in:


setenv boot-device hd:6,\\:tbxi

as it says in the installation instructions...

I guess I need to hit return... to which I get "OK" and then have no clue
what to do... shutdown does not work (is not recognised) so I power off and
restart to no effect...

Also when I type the "\\" bit nothing show on screen ie it looks like:

setenv boot-device hd:6,  :tbxi


Any help/suggestions?




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