[newbie] backspace, where art thou?

[Michel Clasquin]

Hi gang

All of a sardine my backspace key behaves like a delete key - ie it 
deletes to the right rather than to the left. Please tell me where to fix 
this - It's driving me insane!

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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

[Steve Weltman]

On Friday 25 January 2002 01:00 am, you wrote:
I am not a fan of HP for Linux printing...They are not really into supporting 
the drivers nor do they want to get 'into' the game.

A better choice is Epson or Lexmark.  They are both very Linux friendly 
companies and their devices and software work with Linux.  Correctly.

Steve Weltman

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about drivers and
> support?  I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would like to have a bit
> of information before I outlay the cash.
>
> Trevor

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Re: [newbie] Basic Network

[Steve Weltman]

On Friday 25 January 2002 05:03 am, you wrote:
Easy solution is to ditch the peer networking, and the crossover cable and 
spring for a cheap 4 port switch.  If you really want to get fancy, get a DSL 
firewall appliance with a built in switch.

That way both consoles can get net access and talk to each other without an 
issue.  Protected (somewhat) as well.

Steve Weltman


> I have a network card in my PC and a pcmcia network card in my laptop, both
> are recognised/configured , I have crossover RJ45 cable and now I want them
> to talk to each other. (both running 8.1, Windows not involved here)
> I have read the books and rtfm but still don't understand what to do.
> Can anyone point me to a simple tutorial covering Linux "peer to peer"
> networking please, I've tried a google search but not come up with one that
> meets my needs.

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Re: [newbie] Baad gvim!

[Moshe Kaminsky]

Did you try to change the font from within gvim? (just :set guifont=...)
If this works, it might be some problem about the order in which the 
config files are read.

Moshe

* Chris Keelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020126 05:05]:
> Anyone know how to get gvim to behave? I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on my desktop and I 
>cannot get it to recognize any font changes. With a 17" montior, the default font is 
>just too small but editing the .gvimrc file doesn't seem to work.
> 
> I'd be happy with 9x15 or 10x20 system fonts, but gvim just seems to override any of 
>my customization. Do I have to hack on something besides .gvimrc?
> 
> I'm running Enlightenment, with the GTK libs, if that helps.
> 
> - C
> 

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[newbie] kde startup sound

[Jason Jesso]

I can't get the kde startup sound to play when starting KDE with LM8.1.

In the kde control panel I have the startup sound checked off and I can
even play the test, no problem.  When I log out I hear the logout sound.
?

Another strange thing is that in Kmix I don't see anything, just a grey
window.  No volume settings, nothing.

Any thoughts?

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Re: [newbie] Open TCP and UDP ports

[Steve Weltman]

On Friday 25 January 2002 07:22 pm, you wrote:
You may not like this answer, but start by loading that most current version 
of Linux kernel...2.4 (I would recommend a download of LM8.1 and a kernel 
patch to 2.4.8-34.1mdk).  This will be the best way to allow you to run 
iptables.  Next you can use any of the pointman firewall configs from 
pmfirewall.org.  Simple to implement, easy to change and restart.  I think 
you will like the IDS built into the kernel as well.  Port Sentry is what it 
is called.

Lemme know if this helps...
Steve Weltman

> Hello, my name is Mario Descalzi amd am a programmer acting as system
> administrator; if your advise is to "ask your system adm." that would be me
> again. Have Linux Mandrake 7.0 with two ethernet cards one (192.168.1.1)
> for LAN and the other (www address); also have a Voice over IP (Planet
> VIP-400) device on my LAN (192.168.1.160). My counter part, a non Linux
> person, asked me to open the tcp 1720 port and udp ports 3 to 31000,
> also redirect all trafic on these ports to LAN 192.168.1.160. My
> installation does not have iptables only ipchains. Could any one comment
> how coul I address this request?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mario.

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Re: [newbie] good 486 distr? (was: trouble installing 8.0)

[Steve Weltman]

On Friday 25 January 2002 06:48 pm, you wrote:
Mandrake has a 486 and a 386 version as well!  Look on the website...It's 
there.
Steve Weltman

> thanks for the reply.  i didn't realize lm 8 was optimized for the 586
> (newbie).  i guess i'll use my older red hat 6.1. thanks.
>
> mike
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nelson Bartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
>
> > Have you tried it with one of the smaller 2.2 kernels? I know there is a
> > way to boot to the 2.2.19 based installer when using CD's. Is this
> > posible when using floppies? Might be something to consider.
> >
> > My biggest question here is, is it really worth the time to try and
> > install the i586 based LM 8.0 onto a 486? Doesn't that really defeat the
> > purpose?
> >
> > NB
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 20:38, m!ke mcgranahan wrote:
> > > i tried that... same result.  thanks though
> > >
> > > any other suggestions?
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > >
> > > > Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only install.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > > > >
> > > > > i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard
> > > > > drive space.
> > > > >
> > > > > when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with
> > > > > the cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
> > > > >
> > > > > in second stage install
> > > > > install exited abnormally =-(
> > > > >
> > > > > alt-f3 shows:
> > > > > warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
> > > > >
> > > > > is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the install
> > > > > to succeed?
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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice

[tester]

Paul Kraus wrote:

> I can not install the software. I am running a gateway solo 5300 laptop. 733 
> mhz p3 with 196megs of ram. I click on setup it starts but right before the 
> first dialog appears it locks. Screen has background install image and the 
> options box is completly blank except the next button. You cant click on 
> anything and if I move the mouse around it starts slowing the whole system 
> down. It puts vertical lines across the screen. Then it completly freezes. 
> The only thing I can do is shift alt f1. log in kill the .setup and the 
> .setup.bin processes. then I have to wait like a minute or two. Then I can 
> switch back to kde and everything works fine. I need the app. I have to able 
> to reliably work with MS office files. Once I can do this and prove it to the 
> powers that be I will be able to switch the entire office over to linux.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Well, bite the bullet and buy a boxed set or download StarOffice 6.0 
(6.0 and a revised 5.2 will work with that S3 Savage video chipset)

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Re: [newbie] Tiny Emacs

[tester]

Mario Michael da Costa wrote:

> Charles Muller wrote:
> 
>>I am trying to learn how to use the Emacs package that came with ML 8.1, but
>>the program runs as a tiny window in one corner of my screen, with
>>microscopic menu fonts. Is there a way to make this window larger, with
>>larger menu fonts?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Charles Muller
>>
>>
> 
> Hello Charles,
> If you don't already know emacs, may i suggest you try vim, or gvim ?
> :o) it's much easier, and once you get used to it, you will find that
> it makes life very very easy. If you need any help with learning vim,
> i would be glad to help out. just mail me, and i'll reply first thing
> on monday morning when i get back to work, or i'm sure that there will
> be a lot of vimmers on this mailing list only too eager to help out.
> 
> Thank You,
> Regards,
> mario
> 
> 
> 
> 
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emacs has a file where a few items are stored called

/etc/X11/app-defaults/Emacs

The format of settings entered there is given by opening a terminal and 
typing

man emacs

For your purposes, you want to check that the font line in the file is 
something like
emacs*font: 
-*-Fixed-Medium-R-*-*-*-130-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
only on one line in the file...

Then you can grab the lower right corner of the window and use it to 
resize the window, or you can specify the geometry...

Once, on a lark, I decided to make emacs my desktop environemnt/window 
manageR, so I set the app-defaults to -geometry 145x86 to fill the screen...

If you want the power of emacs without quite the overhead, there is jed 
available for install.  joe is also a nice editor which can be made a 
micro-emacs.

BUT as the guy in the asbestos suit intimated--there is something of a 
religious war on between vi and emacs.  vi has its roots in old old 
UNIX, where it was rightfully welcomed as the best thing _including_ 
sliced bread by the folks who had been chafing under the inquisitorial 
torture of a program called ed.  Emacs came somewhat later, largely the 
brainchild of Richard Stallman, and the folks who decided they liked it.

My email signature at one time was:

"Daddy, why do we have to hide from the police."

"Because we use emacs, son.  They use vi."

My own learning came on micros(8&16-bit) and my intro to vi was on SCO 
Xenix, which impressed me at the time. (and I thought 1 Meg of memory 
was a _LOT_, too).  MINCE (Mince Is Not Complete Emacs) was available on 
CP/M and DOS computers, and I did a lot of writing, in an area where we 
were lucky to have power.  With powerdowns frequent, it was a pain to 
switch modes in vi to save everything every few minutes...  Lessee 
 to get out of insert mode then :w then i to get back to 
insert mode...  With MINCE it was ctrl-x s or more likely nothing at all 
since it autosaved to a scratch buffer frequently.

And then there was SCRIBBLE to accompany MINCE, but nothing to accompany 
vi on the machines I had available (SCRIBBLE was a TeX-like thing for 
formatting output), so I learned emacs and didn't continue using vi 
beyond its basic editor functions and then not those if something more 
convenient was available.

Now I use emacs as my IDE.  The color-coded support in my languages of 
choice and the autosaving are very important to me.  I use vi when I am 
doing rescue work (if it is available and joe or jed are not), and I use 
  LyX for documents, or occasionally Applixware or StarOffice if I have 
to be Microsoft-readable.

Yes, you will find every editor has a following.  PHPers sometimes like 
vim, but often select Xemacs.  Many web page folks think Nedit birth was 
the point where the world began to run right.

Pick the one you want and learn it.  Then join the fanatics who think 
their editor is the greatest.

I don't happen to have a fully formed opinion, and I tend to use the 
simple commands on lots of editors, and rarely have use for anything 
more.  I do tend to customize emacs to suit myself more than any other, 
and I think I also like it because the screen is easy on my eyes, but I 
can't claim to know even half its functions.

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[newbie] Digital Speakers / Sound Blaster Live

[Paul Kraus]

I have just installed mandrake on my home pc. Gateway 1.6 p4 with 384mb ram. I am 
using a sound blaster live and have digital speakers. Is there a driver for this sound 
card that will work with my speakers? Thanks.

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[newbie] sed or awk or ?

[Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I have hundreds of files to be renamed!

for example processed21c45.wav to adi21c45.wav

I've found how to use sed to change 'names' inside files, but no the file
name itself.

TIA

Ricardo Castanho

- -- 
delivery NOT reliable  => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==
Linux user # 102240 => Machine # 96125 => Seti@home user
==
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org

iEYEARECAAYFAjxSNdcACgkQqJymTCNNyXH+WwCaAi3EuKr/X/3KCglzfmRJ+Ziv
tLIAni7WhukNnqxhAZ3Ips6vv34tw5ZW
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-END PGP SIGNATURE-





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Re: [newbie] cannot hear cd solved apologize

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Friday 25 January 2002 05:38 pm, you wrote:
> I found a cable and connected it and cd works.
> I am sorry and apologize but  was confused by two facts
> - audio cds worked on previous os without cable, this is very confusing
> - aux and cd plugs on motherboard are shown in picture but not
> listed in components list.
> thank everyone (embarrassed)
> .
Paolo:
There's no reason to be embarrassed if this is the first time that this has 
happened to you. If it's the second time, a little bit of embarrassment is 
appropriate. If it's the fifth time, perhaps it's time to seek some help, as 
you're getting in my league.
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Re: [newbie] cannot hear cd

[Erylon]

On Friday 25 January 2002 13:36, you wrote:
>   I cannot hear cds neither with kscd nor with grip.
> I read mails in last days but couldn't find an answer; I'm afraid there
> is a little stupid simple thing to do but I tried hard and can't find. I
> hope someone can help, thank you for reading this. BYE.

Bascule is entirely correct.  With Windows you don't need a cable between 
your sound card and your CD Rom.  With Linux, you do.  There will be a 
(probably) 4 pin connector on the soundcard (or the soundcard portion of your 
motherboard if you have a built-in card).  You must get a CD Rom cable that 
matches your soundcard "audio out to CD"  plug on one end, and that matches 
your CD Rom "audio in from soundcard" on the other.

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Re: [newbie] good 486 distr? (was: trouble installing 8.0)

[Michael Viron]

There's also Mandrake 7.0 for i486.

Michael

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At 06:48 PM 01/25/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>thanks for the reply.  i didn't realize lm 8 was optimized for the 586
(newbie).  i guess i'll use my older red hat 6.1. thanks.
>
>mike
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Nelson Bartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
>
>
>> Have you tried it with one of the smaller 2.2 kernels? I know there is a
>> way to boot to the 2.2.19 based installer when using CD's. Is this
>> posible when using floppies? Might be something to consider.
>> 
>> My biggest question here is, is it really worth the time to try and
>> install the i586 based LM 8.0 onto a 486? Doesn't that really defeat the
>> purpose?
>> 
>> NB
>> 
>> On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 20:38, m!ke mcgranahan wrote:
>> > i tried that... same result.  thanks though
>> > 
>> > any other suggestions?
>> > 
>> > mike
>> > 
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only install.
>> > > 
>> > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
>> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
>> > > > 
>> > > > i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard drive
>> > > > space.
>> > > > 
>> > > > when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with
the
>> > > > cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
>> > > > 
>> > > > in second stage install
>> > > > install exited abnormally =-(
>> > > > 
>> > > > alt-f3 shows:
>> > > > warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
>> > > > 
>> > > > is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the
install to
>> > > > succeed?
>> > > > 
>> > > > mike
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Re: [newbie] argggggg installing software

[Steve Weltman]

The compiled list of contents is on the Mandrake site as well as listed on 
the CD it's self in the documentation (Yes, RTUM... :)  
SW

On Friday 25 January 2002 07:16 pm, you wrote:
> Is there compiled list of all the files on the cd's and a description of
> what they are for? this would help tremedously.
>
> On Friday 25 January 2002 07:56 pm, you wrote:
> > On Friday 25 January 2002 04:41 pm, Paul Kraus wrote:
> > > I have tried to install enlightenment and eterm. now both of these fail
> > > because they need other rpms installed so I download those rps and they
> > > fail because the need other rpms to install. this is utterly
> > > ridiculuos. Is there so way to have to software retrieve the files that
> > > it needs or am I going to have to play secret agent and spend 3 hours
> > > d/l rpm after rpm to find out I still need more rpms. so frustrated
> > >
> > > PK
> >
> > If you have rpmdrake installed, then you can automate this process. You
> > can access it from the Mandrake Control Center. Since both enlightenment
> > and eterm are on your CDs, rpmdrake will install al the other necessary
> > software as well.

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Re: [newbie] Star Office

[tester]

Paul Kraus wrote:

> Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it 
> located? I can't find it.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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If you have the download edition, it is not.  It is on Commercial CD 
with Standard Edition, and PowerPack and ProSuite and _even_ Gaming 
edition.  (Last I looked, CompUSA had Gaming for 29.95 and it includes 
the ability to run several windows games and has the Sims)

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Re: [newbie] backup script

[tester]

Jesse Angell wrote:

> I found a script and just eddited it and saved it.. but I can't launch 
> it like I could the script before, The script simply backs up a file.. I 
> get a Bad Interrepture error trying to launch it AND i notice that the 
> orignal script was green on ls and this is just grey on ls.. here is the 
> script why isnt it working
> 
>  
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
>  
> 
> instance=${1:-palace}
> root=${2:-/home/redbaron/palaceserver}
> cp $root/$instance/psdata/pserver.pat 
> $root/$instance/psdata/backup/pserver`date +%Y%m%d`.pat
> 

You need to make it executable

as root

chmod a+x (scriptname)

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Re: [newbie] Posting FROM a Perl script

[tester]

Miark wrote:

> Found my answer.
> 
> Miark
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I can't seem to find anyplace that describes how to
>>POST data _from_ a Perl script to the WWW. Every hit
>>I get with search engines is a page that describes
>>the other way around. 
>>
>>Anybody know of a tutorial or site that covers what
>>I need?
>>
>>Merci,
>>Miark
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] When is Mandrake not Mandrake?

[tester]

Mark Lucas wrote:

> I have been downloading, compiling and installing sources - new kernel,
> modules etc.
> When does my Mandrake 8.0 distro cease to be Mandrake and become a 'generic'
> Linux (if thewre is such a thing)?
> 
> Just a questions out of idle curiosity.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Well, in one sense, if you are downloading, it is very close.  Just 
throw away Netscape and pine you are there--everything else is GPL or 
other GPL-compatible free licenses.  Yes, even the Mandrake-specific 
tools.  And the integrated menus are an adaptation of Debian.

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Re: [newbie] Ogle GUI

[Carlos Arigós]

El Vie 25 Ene 2002 22:29, escribió:
> I can use Ogle (0.8.2) to view DVDs in CLI mode, but when I open it in
> GUI mode, it crashes when I open a DVD.
>
> Does anyone know what might be wrong?

Hi, Jim. Are this 6 rpms installed?

a52dec-0.7.1b-2.i686.rpm
libdvdcss-0.0.3.ogle3-1.i686.rpm
libdvdread-0.9.2-1.i686.rpm
libxml2-2.4.11-1mdk.i586.rpm
ogle-0.8.2-ogle1.i586.rpm
ogle_gui-0.8.2-ogle1.i386.rpm

What return the console when you type: ogle?

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Re: [newbie] argggggg installing software

[Paul Kraus]

Is there compiled list of all the files on the cd's and a description of what 
they are for? this would help tremedously.

On Friday 25 January 2002 07:56 pm, you wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2002 04:41 pm, Paul Kraus wrote:
> > I have tried to install enlightenment and eterm. now both of these fail
> > because they need other rpms installed so I download those rps and they
> > fail because the need other rpms to install. this is utterly ridiculuos.
> > Is there so way to have to software retrieve the files that it needs or
> > am I going to have to play secret agent and spend 3 hours d/l rpm after
> > rpm to find out I still need more rpms. so frustrated
> >
> > PK
>
> If you have rpmdrake installed, then you can automate this process. You
> can access it from the Mandrake Control Center. Since both enlightenment
> and eterm are on your CDs, rpmdrake will install al the other necessary
> software as well.



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Re: [newbie] Trainging / Documentation

[tester]

Paul Kraus wrote:

> Is there any good documents, books, or pdf?s  (preferably free and 
> downloadable) that will help me learn linux quickly? I don?t need all 
> the unix background or this is how tho mouse works crap. I am a systems 
> admin for NT and 2000 I just want to learn linux. The documentation that 
> came with software is very nice but I want to print it and I don?t want 
> to have to print it page by page. Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Paul Kraus
> 
> Network Administrator
> 
> PEL Supply Company
> 
> (216) 267-5775 Voice
> 
> (216) 267-6176 Fax
> 
> www.pelsupply.com 
> 
>  
> 

One of your 8.1 installables was sag...  System Administrator's Guide

I think there are also a couple of other ebooks available in ps and 
html.  If all you can find is html, then do a googlew search for the 
neat little program called SDF which can convert documents with wild 
abandon.

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[newbie] Baad gvim!

[Chris Keelan]

Anyone know how to get gvim to behave? I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on my desktop and I 
cannot get it to recognize any font changes. With a 17" montior, the default font is 
just too small but editing the .gvimrc file doesn't seem to work.

I'd be happy with 9x15 or 10x20 system fonts, but gvim just seems to override any of 
my customization. Do I have to hack on something besides .gvimrc?

I'm running Enlightenment, with the GTK libs, if that helps.

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Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0

[m!ke mcgranahan]

i do have facitilities for a net install.  perhaps i'll try that.

this is just an old computer i found in my parents house.  it is not my primary 
computer.

mike

- Original Message - 
From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0


> At the risk of sounding flippant, stick some more memory in, if at all
> possible!
> 
> I think it a text install is too memory intensive, you're a bit stuffed
> really. I'm not sure if a network install would require less memory... do
> you have facilities for a network install?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> 
> i tried that... same result.  thanks though
> 
> any other suggestions?
> 
> mike
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> 
> 
> > Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only
> install.
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > > 
> > > i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard
> drive
> > > space.
> > > 
> > > when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd,
> with the
> > > cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
> > > 
> > > in second stage install
> > > install exited abnormally =-(
> > > 
> > > alt-f3 shows:
> > > warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
> > > 
> > > is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the
> install to
> > > succeed?
> > > 
> > > mike
> > > 
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Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake

[tester]

Jeff wrote:

> Hey Everyone
> 
>  
> 
> I need some help I am trying to install Mandrake 8.1 on my laptop.  
> When I get to the screen where it says it is configuring PCMCIA or 
> whatever...hehe...it seems to lock up!!! Does anyone know why it would 
> be doing this?  I have a new Toshiba Satellite.  Any help would be great
> 
>  
> 
> later
> 
>  
> 
> Jeff
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 

Try F1 at the splash screen, then

linux noauto

on the start line and hit "enter"

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[newbie] good 486 distr? (was: trouble installing 8.0)

[m!ke mcgranahan]

thanks for the reply.  i didn't realize lm 8 was optimized for the 586 (newbie).  i 
guess i'll use my older red hat 6.1. thanks.

mike

- Original Message - 
From: "Nelson Bartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0


> Have you tried it with one of the smaller 2.2 kernels? I know there is a
> way to boot to the 2.2.19 based installer when using CD's. Is this
> posible when using floppies? Might be something to consider.
> 
> My biggest question here is, is it really worth the time to try and
> install the i586 based LM 8.0 onto a 486? Doesn't that really defeat the
> purpose?
> 
> NB
> 
> On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 20:38, m!ke mcgranahan wrote:
> > i tried that... same result.  thanks though
> > 
> > any other suggestions?
> > 
> > mike
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > 
> > 
> > > Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only install.
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > > > 
> > > > i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard drive
> > > > space.
> > > > 
> > > > when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with the
> > > > cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
> > > > 
> > > > in second stage install
> > > > install exited abnormally =-(
> > > > 
> > > > alt-f3 shows:
> > > > warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
> > > > 
> > > > is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the install to
> > > > succeed?
> > > > 
> > > > mike
> > > > 
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Re: [newbie] Installer Distorted

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Tighe!!! wrote:

> Alright, I'm really tired of trying to get Linux Mandrake installed. I am on
> an old-world Mac (7200/90) and I've attempted to install Linux... around 20
> times, seriously. First I kept trying LinuxPCC, which didn't go too well. So
> a friend told me of Mandrake Linux, and in my humble opinion, that's the
> sweetest distribution around! So I finally got the two ISO's burned. I
> partitioned my hard drive (one Mac drive, the rest Extra) and installed OS
> 9.1. Next I go to to install Mandrake using BootX... It won't work!!! The
> display on the installer is really messed up. I mean, from BootX up to the
> point of selecting the Mean of Installation, it's fine! As soon as the
> Mandrake installer comes up though, my screen (17") is insanely distorted
> with HUGE grey pixels. What's up?! The screen overlaps itself and if I move
> my mouse to the right, when it hits the edge at right, it'll reappear in the
> left and keep going right, etc!! Someone please help!! I tried entering
> "video=platinumfb:vmode:17,cmode:8" in the Kernal Args for BootX, but that
> doesn't seem to help. I have "No Video Driver" UNCHECKED, and "Force Video
> Settings" CHECKED. If someone could just help me get this installed, I'd
> love you forever!!!
> 
> Tighe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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The Mandrake PPC edition is built only for G3/G4 processors and the 
amount of progress you report is miraculous.  Sorry, the device support 
isn't there before the early iMACs or something similar.

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[newbie] Ogle GUI

[Jim Dawson]

I can use Ogle (0.8.2) to view DVDs in CLI mode, but when I open it in
GUI mode, it crashes when I open a DVD.

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Re: [newbie] ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive

[tester]

Terry Smith wrote:

> Short version: Got one, doesn't work :-(
> 
> Longer version: My new linux box has returned from its original
> birthplace in San Francisco (Micronux Computers) with a new mobo. The
> week old machine had quit on me a couple of times finally, on Jan 6,
> dropping out altogether.
> 
> Apparently it was a problem with the mobo, specifically the voltage
> supplied to the cpu and the memory. The original mobo was an Asus A7M266
> which is a socket A board, DDR, 266 FSB, etc using the AMD761 chipset.
> The board had built in sound and it (the sound, not the board) worked
> fine.
> 
> Micronux replaced the mobo with an Asus A7K266 which has the same config
> as the old board and a VIA 266 chipset instead of the AMD. It doesn't,
> however, have onboard sound, so Micronux put in an ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive
> card.
> 
> sndconfig says "ESS Technology|ESS 1969 Solo 1 Audiodrive is not
> supported"
> 
> Mandrake Control Center, hardware configuration, detects the card and
> indicates that it uses kernel module: snd-card-es1938. I selected the
> Solo 1 from the ESS list and tested it. Nada!
> 
> lspcidrake tells me basically the same thing, i.e., recognizes the card
> and indicates the kernel module.
> 
> Of course, I'm sure that there has been tons of messages about this over
> the last month or two. I've managed to lose stuff from the last several
> weeks on the transition including where the archives are :~ (.
> 
> So should this card work? Is it a IRQ problem?
> 
> TIA.
> 
> Terry Smith
> Cape Cod USA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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chkconfig  --del alsa
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Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0

[Nelson Bartley]

Have you tried it with one of the smaller 2.2 kernels? I know there is a
way to boot to the 2.2.19 based installer when using CD's. Is this
posible when using floppies? Might be something to consider.

My biggest question here is, is it really worth the time to try and
install the i586 based LM 8.0 onto a 486? Doesn't that really defeat the
purpose?

NB

On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 20:38, m!ke mcgranahan wrote:
> i tried that... same result.  thanks though
> 
> any other suggestions?
> 
> mike
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> 
> 
> > Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only install.
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > > 
> > > i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard drive
> > > space.
> > > 
> > > when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with the
> > > cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
> > > 
> > > in second stage install
> > > install exited abnormally =-(
> > > 
> > > alt-f3 shows:
> > > warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
> > > 
> > > is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the install to
> > > succeed?
> > > 
> > > mike
> > > 
> > >  << File: message.footer >> 
> > 
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Re: [newbie] Security

[Dennis Myers]

On Friday 25 January 2002 15:38, you wrote:
> I have bastille configured for medium security and just ran the 'who'
> command and found two users logged in.
> Being that I am the sole user, it seems that there are other things I sould
> be doing to harden the system.
> I'm used to Zone Alarm notifying me of any attempts to break in. Is there
> something similar in Linux to aid me in monitoring security?
> What else can I do to deny access to crackers?
>
> Thanks,
> Curt
Who were the two users?  My system shows two users also. but they are both 
me.  So it may not be a problem.  You can run Bastille as a firewall and 
Portsentry as a port monitor. Both are stock rpms on the 8.1 OS. HTH
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RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0

[FLYNN, Steve]

At the risk of sounding flippant, stick some more memory in, if at all
possible!

I think it a text install is too memory intensive, you're a bit stuffed
really. I'm not sure if a network install would require less memory... do
you have facilities for a network install?


-Original Message-
From:   m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0

i tried that... same result.  thanks though

any other suggestions?

mike

- Original Message - 
From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0


> Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only
install.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > 
> > i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard
drive
> > space.
> > 
> > when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd,
with the
> > cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
> > 
> > in second stage install
> > install exited abnormally =-(
> > 
> > alt-f3 shows:
> > warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
> > 
> > is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the
install to
> > succeed?
> > 
> > mike
> > 
> >  << File: message.footer >> 
> 
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[newbie] Changing UID of xscreensaver

[Nelson Bartley]

Heyo,

I'm trying to run the sonar screen saver and it sais I need to change
the UID to root so I can use the ping functionality.

How do I do this, as this seems like a pretty cool screensaver.

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Re: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0

[m!ke mcgranahan]

i tried that... same result.  thanks though

any other suggestions?

mike

- Original Message - 
From: "FLYNN, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0


> Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only install.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> > 
> > i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard drive
> > space.
> > 
> > when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with the
> > cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
> > 
> > in second stage install
> > install exited abnormally =-(
> > 
> > alt-f3 shows:
> > warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
> > 
> > is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the install to
> > succeed?
> > 
> > mike
> > 
> >  << File: message.footer >> 
> 
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RE: [newbie] trouble installing 8.0

[FLYNN, Steve]

Use a etxt install. Hit F1 and select text for a text only install.

> -Original Message-
> From: m!ke mcgranahan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [newbie] trouble installing 8.0
> 
> i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard drive
> space.
> 
> when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with the
> cdrom.img image located in the images directory) i get this:
> 
> in second stage install
> install exited abnormally =-(
> 
> alt-f3 shows:
> warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem
> 
> is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the install to
> succeed?
> 
> mike
> 
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[newbie] trouble installing 8.0

[m!ke mcgranahan]

i have an old dell 486/66, with 32mb of ram, 1.5gb of scsi hard drive space.

when i run the install (boot from floppy, to install from cd, with the cdrom.img image 
located in the images directory) i get this:

in second stage install
install exited abnormally =-(

alt-f3 shows:
warning, ramdisk is not possible due to low mem

is there any way around this?  anyone know how to allow the install to succeed?

mike




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[newbie] Openldap cannot start (HELP)

[SKLIM]

Hi! Linux firends
 
I am having a problem install OpenLdap into my 
Linux Server.
After configure it ..when I try to start the 
Openldap at init.d it give permision deny to start 
/etc/openldap/slapd.conf
 
My domain name is edns1.leader.com.my and below is 
my slapd.conf setting. Please correct me if I am wrong. Need HELP
 
 
 
ldbm database 
definitions###
 
database    
ldbmreadonly    
offsuffix  
"dc=leader,dc=com.my"#suffix 
"o=My Organization 
Name,c=US"rootdn  
"cn=Manager,dc=leader,dc=com.my"#rootdn 
"cn=Manager,o=My Organization Name,c=US"# Cleartext passwords, especially 
for the rootdn, should# be avoid.  See slappasswd(8) and slapd.conf(5) 
for details.# Use of strong authentication 
encouraged.rootpw  
secret# The database directory MUST exist prior to running slapd AND# 
should only be accessible by the slapd/tools. Mode 700 
recommended.directory   /var/lib/ldap# 
Indices to maintainindex uid pres,eqindex cn,sn,uid 
pres,eq,approx,sub
Best 
Regards,SKLIM

Re: [newbie] argggggg installing software

[Bill Davidson]

On Friday 25 January 2002 04:41 pm, Paul Kraus wrote:
> I have tried to install enlightenment and eterm. now both of these fail
> because they need other rpms installed so I download those rps and they
> fail because the need other rpms to install. this is utterly ridiculuos.
> Is there so way to have to software retrieve the files that it needs or
> am I going to have to play secret agent and spend 3 hours d/l rpm after
> rpm to find out I still need more rpms. so frustrated
>
> PK

If you have rpmdrake installed, then you can automate this process. You 
can access it from the Mandrake Control Center. Since both enlightenment 
and eterm are on your CDs, rpmdrake will install al the other necessary 
software as well.
-- 
Bill Davidson



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Re: [newbie] help installing openoffice.org?

[Todd Slater]

On Friday 25 January 2002 06:58 pm, Nelson Bartley wrote:
> Now that you've installed it w/ the -net, you need to run the setup
> program again for each user, so the program can install settings in
> their home directories.
>
> You'll find the soffice executable in the location you install it to
> after you run setup from each user.
>
> Make sense?

Yes, thanks! I was confused about whether I had to install the whole 198 mb 
setup for each user, but I chose workstation (~10 mb) and everything seems to 
be working fine.

Thanks,
Todd



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Re: [newbie] help installing openoffice.org?

[Nelson Bartley]

Now that you've installed it w/ the -net, you need to run the setup
program again for each user, so the program can install settings in
their home directories.

You'll find the soffice executable in the location you install it to
after you run setup from each user.

Make sense?

NB

On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 18:25, Todd Slater wrote:
> Finally getting around to trying to get openoffice.org installed, and I know 
> this has come up here before.
> 
> I dl'd and extracted it in my home directory. Ran setup -net. Specified 
> install directory as /usr/share/openoffice. Installed fine. changed to 
> /usr/share/openoffice/program and ran soffice. Got error: //HACK: No such 
> file or directory. Then window pops up and says app cannot be started. The 
> config file /home/todd/.sversionrc was not found and if I want to start the 
> setup app to check the installation. I said yes and it prompts for 
> workstation or local installation. I just want to use it on this machine, but 
> allow my wife to use it to (thus the -net, right?).
> 
> What have I done wrong?
> 
> TIA,
> Todd
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] cannot hear cd

[Randy Kramer]

paolo brusasco wrote:
> I can't understand what does it mean what a fellow wrote some days ago,
> that one should look if audio cable is connected from cd to soundcard-I
> don't have audio cables or jacks and audio cds work under
> windows-i-am-trying-to-leave-but-it-looks-hard.

What they are talking about is a cable inside the computer, from the cd
drive to the sound card.  There should be three cables connected to the
computer:
   * a wide ribbon cable with a 40 pin plug (by far the biggest cable)
   * a power cable (actually, usually 4 separate wires) (trace it back
to the power supply -- all the drives and the motherboard will have
wires from the power supply)
   * the audio cable -- the smallest cable -- sometimes it looks like
one wire, sometimes two -- it is actually two shielded cables (or a
twisted shielded pair sometimes?).  It will have a small four pin
connector, and the other end will be plugged into your sound card.  

If you do not have this cable, I'm not sure you can get audio from your
cd under Linux.  (I think I heard about a way to do it, but I'm not
sure.)

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3 and Mandrake 8.2

[Tom Brinkman]

On Friday 25 January 2002 05:36 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi guys,
> DOes anyone know if the new Mandrake 8.2 will have KDE3?...

   Nope. I mean I dunno, an' I've been usin 8.2 most all this year ;) 
Still don't have a clue ;>  My best guess, is kde2.2.2,.. 2.2.17, maybe 
2.2.18 kernel, Mandrake's gcc 2.96 is still the compiler of choice, 
XF-4.2. Lot'sa great updates to existin apps.  Supermount is back, rock 
steady. BUT it's no secret, visit a cooker mirror   
  http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3   and watch for 
yourself.  Also, you can read up on the work in progress by lurkin on 
the cooker list  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker

   I took a real early look at KDE3 some weeks ago.  Not impressed. 
MOF, I hope the "kiddie, windoze-like" graphics an' eye candy DOESN'T 
make it to release.  Looks like Billy Goat's team and Paper Clip Bob 
designed the Look'N Feel, menus and icons  ...Oh well,  YMMV ;> 

If this is what's needed to "get Linux on the desktop" .. oh 
$#%%!!.Currently KDE3b2 is in cooker /contribs. Gives me the 
impression 8.2 will sport 2.2.2, and store bought Mandrake CD's will 
have KDE3 as an installable co-option.  Just in case I'm savin my 
latest kde2 src.rpm's ;>

I tried
> the beta (which was a bit too beta for me...'cos I'm not a
> developer)of KDE3 and I found it very good anywayfaster and
> lighter than even .great improvement from KDE2...and it looks
> even nicerso i was really curious to know if it was going to be
> part of the new distribution of my favourite Linux flavour. Cheers
> everyone
> bye

   At least in the early stages, XF-4.2 has crud for fonts, even AA'd.  
I was usin AA'd X-4.1/KDE2 Lucidux Sans system wide for some time. 
Considered it better than importing M$ TT fonts (ie, drakfont, M$ Comic 
Sans).  Not so right now... and it's difficult goin back.

   Since the testing route for 8.2 seems to be cooker only ... that is 
to say the Christmas Cooker ISO release (which I'm usin, updated to 
current), and beta1 is right now,   It's, your guess. Civileme 
probly knows.

   My take is that the beta period is gonna be longer than in the past, 
or you can expect 8.2 final within a bout'a month.  Either way, expect 
a much improved 8.1 ... well unless KDE3 is included as is  ... yuk !

   Not to bust bubbles, but if you (anybody on this list) had problems 
installin 8.1 on your hardware ... 8.2 might convince you it's probly a 
user or hardware problem.  Conversely, expect the '8.2 sux, I'm goin 
back to 8.1' posts to start shortly.   (Sorry, couldn't resist ;) 
-- 
Tom Brinkman   Corpus Christi, Texas, USA



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RE: [newbie] Security

[FLYNN, Steve]

What were the two users? If one was logged in from :0 and the other from a
pts* terminal, don't worry - they are both you!

Command 'w' should give you some information...

-Original Message-
From:   Curt Tresenriter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, January 25, 2002 9:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] Security

I have bastille configured for medium security and just ran the
'who' command 
and found two users logged in.
Being that I am the sole user, it seems that there are other things
I sould 
be doing to harden the system.
I'm used to Zone Alarm notifying me of any attempts to break in. Is
there 
something similar in Linux to aid me in monitoring security?
What else can I do to deny access to crackers?

Thanks,
Curt
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Re: [newbie] ESS Solo 1 Audiodrive

[Frans Ketelaars]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:18:06 -0500
Terry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I began this thread yesterday.
> 
> I have a new machine with two drives and installed RH 7.2 tonight on hdb (I 
> know, I know, but I'm just seeing how the other side lives :-)).
> 
> The ESS Solo 1 was automatically detected, configured, and is running great.
> 
> the /etc/modules.conf file (on RH) has this
> 
> .snip...
> alias sound-slot-0 esssolo1
> post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 
> 2>&1 || :
> pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 
> 2>&1 || :
> .more snip
> 
> I take it that esssolo1 is a driver. Is that right?

Yes. 

> On the LM side I have a file in the kernel modules dir 
> 
> esssolo1.o.gz
> 
> This looks like a tarball'd driver.

No, it looks like a gzipped driver :) When modprobing a module or editing 
/etc/modules.conf don't use a .o or .o.gz extension, don't worry about them 
otherwise.

> What's up? What do I have to do to get 
> this running on the LM side? Is it as simple as simple as adding the 'sound'
> lines to the LM /etc/modules.conf?'?

Well, RH7.2 and LM8.1 use different kernels and asssociated modules (version 
differences and distro specific patching), and _both_ distro's can use either
the kernel(AKA OSS/Free) or the ALSA drivers for sound. From a previous post I 
understood LM8.1 HardDrake recognised your card and wanted to use ALSA, what 
went wrong? And don't forget to raise volumes and unmute relevant channels,
ALSA safely mutes everything.

You can try 'adding the 'sound' lines to the LM /etc/modules.conf' of course.

But, in your earlier post you said:


sndconfig says "ESS Technology|ESS 1969 Solo 1 Audiodrive is not
supported"


Sndconfig is the (originally RedHat) setup utility for the OSS/Free drivers.
Maybe RH7.2 has newer versions then LM8.1 (sndconfig and drivers)...

I hope to avoid confusion by adding that esssolo1 is the OSS/Free driver and 
snd-card-es1938 is the ALSA one.

> Terry Smith
> Cape Cod USA

 HTH,

-Frans



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[newbie] help installing openoffice.org?

[Todd Slater]

Finally getting around to trying to get openoffice.org installed, and I know 
this has come up here before.

I dl'd and extracted it in my home directory. Ran setup -net. Specified 
install directory as /usr/share/openoffice. Installed fine. changed to 
/usr/share/openoffice/program and ran soffice. Got error: //HACK: No such 
file or directory. Then window pops up and says app cannot be started. The 
config file /home/todd/.sversionrc was not found and if I want to start the 
setup app to check the installation. I said yes and it prompts for 
workstation or local installation. I just want to use it on this machine, but 
allow my wife to use it to (thus the -net, right?).

What have I done wrong?

TIA,
Todd



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Re: [newbie] cannot hear cd

[Kaj Haulrich]

paolo brusasco wrote:
> 
>   I cannot hear cds neither with kscd nor with grip.
> I read mails in last days but couldn't find an answer; I'm afraid there
> is a little stupid simple thing to do but I tried hard and can't find. I
> hope someone can help, thank you for reading this. BYE.
> I am trying to listen from an ide 16xdvd-cd on /dev/hda (there is also a
> cdrw on /dev/hdd (system set it to /dev/scd0 but to start xcdroast I had
> to make changes, this is another long boring story).
> 
> 1) I can see and access normal data from /dev/hda.
> 2) I can hear system sounds and .wav files
> 3) arts volume control is set to max.
> 4) mixer channels are all not muted (green light on) and volumes set to
> max (no way to hear sounds without starting mixer).
> 5) kscd is configured to device /dev/hda by editing
> /home/user/.kde/share/config/kscdrc (no way to change device from inside
> kscd, it always ends with error 11 sigsegv); /dev/cdrom doesn't exist on
> my sistem;there is /dev/cdroms but kscd set to this doesn' even see the cd.
> 6) /dev/hda is unmounted
> 7) entry in /etc/fstab is:
> /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom auto user,
> iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
> 
> I can't understand what does it mean what a fellow wrote some days ago,
> that one should look if audio cable is connected from cd to soundcard-I
> don't have audio cables or jacks and audio cds work under
> windows-i-am-trying-to-leave-but-it-looks-hard.
>
Paolo, this sounds a little confusing to me. Normally hda is the
harddisk, attached as "master" on the first IDE-bus. It seems that
you've got a CD-writer attached as "slave" to your second IDE-bus.A
typical setup would be to attach a CD-reader (CDROM) to either "slave"
on the first IDE-bus (hdb) or (in your case) to "master" on the second
IDE-bus (hdc). I don't understand how you intend to play a music-CD from
your harddisk (hda) ???

I'd recommend, that you attach your CD-reader (CDROM) to "master" on the
second IDE-bus (hdc). Then, as root, edit /etc/lilo.conf to something
like :

image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=Linux
   root=/dev/hda2
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   append=" hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi devfs=mount "
   vga=791
   read-only
the important line being : append=" hd(your CD-drive here)=ide-scsi "
which tells the kernel to "see" your ATAPI CD-ROM as a SCSI-device.
After editing this file, remember to run lilo (at a command-prompt, type
: lilo).
Then reboot to let the kernel know the changes.

Now XCDroast should recognize both drives. Also, change your settings in
the CD-player to /dev/scd0 and it should play from the CD-Reader (hdc).
Finally, go to the mixer-panel and turn the PCM-channel off. Play.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [newbie] argggggg installing software

[Steve Weltman]

On Friday 25 January 2002 01:41 pm, you wrote:
If you have already installed  (with the base install) a copy of 
enlightenment or eterm, UNINSTALL them first (find all the parts of it the 
same way...dependencies).  Install the new copies from scratch.

I just got done doing apache server and a kernel upgrade, and needed to use 
this technique for apache and needed to overwrite some of the kernel before I 
could get it installed.

To make your search faster, try keeping a copy of konqueror opened to 
http://rpmfind.net  This is where I can search for all of the RPMs in one 
place.


Best of luck!
Steve Weltman
Absolute Networks and Sales

> I have tried to install enlightenment and eterm. now both of these fail
> because they need other rpms installed so I download those rps and they
> fail because the need other rpms to install. this is utterly ridiculuos. Is
> there so way to have to software retrieve the files that it needs or am I
> going to have to play secret agent and spend 3 hours d/l rpm after rpm to
> find out I still need more rpms. so frustrated
>
> PK

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Re: [newbie] cannot hear cd

[bascule]

if you don't have a cable from your cdrom to your soundcard then you will 
have problems, the traditional for computers to play audio cds was to 
transfer the sound in analogue form along a cable from the cdrom to the 
soundcard, even when cdroms first became capable of digital audio extraction 
and people strated ripping mp3s etc. this was still the case, though in some 
case instead of an analogue cable a digital transfer was made but still using 
a special cable (both drive and soundcard have to support this), but now, 
later versions of windows transfer audio data from audion cds via the data 
bus in digital form, personally i think that there is some merit to this but 
it does mean that oem systems integrators like to save the small amount of 
money that omitting a cable brings, as far as i know the standard linux way 
of playing audio cds is still to use the analogue/digital cable, i have yet 
to hear of a cdrom/dvd that doesn't have the connector for this cable or of 
the soundcard that doesn't have the connector, your solution would seem to be 
to purchase and fit one! here in the uk they can be had for about £4.00
you will need to check your drive to see what outputs you have are on the 
back and check your soundcard as well
bascule

On Friday 25 January 2002 9:36 pm, you wrote:

>
> I can't understand what does it mean what a fellow wrote some days ago,
> that one should look if audio cable is connected from cd to soundcard-I
> don't have audio cables or jacks and audio cds work under
> windows-i-am-trying-to-leave-but-it-looks-hard.



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[newbie] cannot hear cd solved apologize

[paolo brusasco]

I found a cable and connected it and cd works.
I am sorry and apologize but  was confused by two facts
- audio cds worked on previous os without cable, this is very confusing
- aux and cd plugs on motherboard are shown in picture but not 
listed in components list.
thank everyone (embarrassed)
.





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Re: [newbie] cannot hear cd

[Anthony]

There's an audio cable that goes directly from a jack on the back of
your CD drive to a connector on the soundcard inside the computer. Open
your computer's case; If you don't have this audio cable connected, you
won't be able to listen to audio CDs.

Chair,
Anthony

paolo brusasco wrote:
> 
>   I cannot hear cds neither with kscd nor with grip.
> I read mails in last days but couldn't find an answer; I'm afraid there
> is a little stupid simple thing to do but I tried hard and can't find. I
> hope someone can help, thank you for reading this. BYE.
> I am trying to listen from an ide 16xdvd-cd on /dev/hda (there is also a
> cdrw on /dev/hdd (system set it to /dev/scd0 but to start xcdroast I had
> to make changes, this is another long boring story).
> 
> 1) I can see and access normal data from /dev/hda.
> 2) I can hear system sounds and .wav files
> 3) arts volume control is set to max.
> 4) mixer channels are all not muted (green light on) and volumes set to
> max (no way to hear sounds without starting mixer).
> 5) kscd is configured to device /dev/hda by editing
> /home/user/.kde/share/config/kscdrc (no way to change device from inside
> kscd, it always ends with error 11 sigsegv); /dev/cdrom doesn't exist on
> my sistem;there is /dev/cdroms but kscd set to this doesn' even see the cd.
> 6) /dev/hda is unmounted
> 7) entry in /etc/fstab is:
> /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom auto user,
> iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
> 
> I can't understand what does it mean what a fellow wrote some days ago,
> that one should look if audio cable is connected from cd to soundcard-I
> don't have audio cables or jacks and audio cds work under
> windows-i-am-trying-to-leave-but-it-looks-hard.
> 
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[newbie] argggggg installing software

[Paul Kraus]

I have tried to install enlightenment and eterm. now both of these fail 
because they need other rpms installed so I download those rps and they fail 
because the need other rpms to install. this is utterly ridiculuos. Is there 
so way to have to software retrieve the files that it needs or am I going to 
have to play secret agent and spend 3 hours d/l rpm after rpm to find out I 
still need more rpms. so frustrated

PK



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[newbie] Security

[Curt Tresenriter]

I have bastille configured for medium security and just ran the 'who' command 
and found two users logged in.
Being that I am the sole user, it seems that there are other things I sould 
be doing to harden the system.
I'm used to Zone Alarm notifying me of any attempts to break in. Is there 
something similar in Linux to aid me in monitoring security?
What else can I do to deny access to crackers?

Thanks,
Curt



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[newbie] cannot hear cd

[paolo brusasco]

  I cannot hear cds neither with kscd nor with grip.
I read mails in last days but couldn't find an answer; I'm afraid there 
is a little stupid simple thing to do but I tried hard and can't find. I 
hope someone can help, thank you for reading this. BYE.
I am trying to listen from an ide 16xdvd-cd on /dev/hda (there is also a 
cdrw on /dev/hdd (system set it to /dev/scd0 but to start xcdroast I had 
to make changes, this is another long boring story).

1) I can see and access normal data from /dev/hda.
2) I can hear system sounds and .wav files
3) arts volume control is set to max.
4) mixer channels are all not muted (green light on) and volumes set to 
max (no way to hear sounds without starting mixer).
5) kscd is configured to device /dev/hda by editing 
/home/user/.kde/share/config/kscdrc (no way to change device from inside 
kscd, it always ends with error 11 sigsegv); /dev/cdrom doesn't exist on 
my sistem;there is /dev/cdroms but kscd set to this doesn' even see the cd.
6) /dev/hda is unmounted
7) entry in /etc/fstab is:
/dev/hda /mnt/cdrom auto user, 
iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0

I can't understand what does it mean what a fellow wrote some days ago, 
that one should look if audio cable is connected from cd to soundcard-I 
don't have audio cables or jacks and audio cds work under 
windows-i-am-trying-to-leave-but-it-looks-hard.





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Re: [newbie] Configuring a scanner w/Sane in LM 8.1?

[Erylon]

This hasn't helped me much, with my parallel port scanner.  I have a Microtek 
e-3 plus, which is supported , but I can't get it recognized.  Also, I can't 
get xscanimage as a drop-down option with gimp, either.  I created a symlink 
to /usr/bin/xscanimage in my ~/.gimp-1.2/plug-ins directory, but it still 
doesn't show up in gimp.  The docs make it look like it should be simple, but 
it isn't, so my guess is very few people have managed to get their parallel 
scanners working, and that's the reason for the lack of help on the subject.

e.

On Tuesday 22 January 2002 04:17, you wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:27, you wrote:
> > Mick wrote:
> > >Hi list,
> > >I have a parallel port scanner. It's made by Scanport. I checked the
> > > list on the Sane site, but my exact model is not listed. I know Sane
> > > and Xscanimage are installed on my system. How do I get the scanner
> > > configured, and how do I get the front end app (Xscanimage) started. I
> > > tried to find the executable and try clicking on it, but that didn't
> > > work. I also tried to switch on the scanner and see if it would
> > > 'appear' (I wish) in Hardrake. No way. Maybe someone has been there,
> > > and can point me in the right direction? Thank you.
> > >Mick
> >
> > For some reason, questions in this group regarding Sane are met with a
> > deafening silence (inappropriate metaphor there but never mind) - see my
> > post of 17 January.  Either nobody here understands the first thing
> > about it or the question is considered so stupid as not to be worthy of
> > an answer.
> >
> > How about it guys?  Someone must know.
>
> On my system I have to run Xsane fom the Run command menu option.  With
> mine there was a seperate driver to compile for sane, but there are lots
> already included within the Sane source package.
>
> Hope this little bit helps
>
> David


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[newbie] postfix: can't receive email

[ajax]

I sent something earlier but I don't think it got through.
I'm having problems receiving mail with postfix.  I had it working before but 
now it isn't.  When I send email to my computer from a remote address , it 
doesn't make it and I get an email stating that  the connection was 
refused(at the remote email address) by my home computer.  I can send email 
to myself from my home computer and outgoing mail reaches its destination ok. 
 It sounds like a firewall issue to me but I can't find anything wrong with 
my bastille setup.
Any ideas?
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[newbie] autologin to wrong desktop

[Harry Ellis]

My Mandrake 7.2 automatically boots to user "Harry", which
is good,
and Enlightenment, which  is inconvenient. I want to end up
in KDE.

It always did until I played around with Enlightenment for
awhile. The
odd thing is that if I ever change users, KDE shows as the
default,
and the computer loads into KDE when I type my password
without me
having to change anything,

1. I have logged out of Enlightenment, gone into "Harry"
with KDE, played
around, logged out, unchecked and rechecked save session,
and shutdown. The
autologin on a new boot goes directly to Enlightenment.

2. If I change to Harry from anywhere, KDE is the choice
showing. I never
have to select it. It loads KDE. But not at boot time.

3. When I looked in /etc./sysconfig/desktop with an editor,
it says "KDE".

4. If I go through KDE Control to system>login manager,
there is no
"convenience", as apparently there is in later KDE's. (Mine
is 2.0). I can
find no gui for autologin, if that's what it's called.

5. Looked at /home/harry/.wmrc with an editor and it says
KDE.

Now I am willing to live without Autoload if I can go
straight to my penguin
heads (the technical term for those who didn't know it) so I
can choose the
user.But I don't know how
to do this either. That would be quicker than going in and
then out of
Enlightenment. But I would prefer an autologin to Harry with
KDE.

Anyone familiar with this problem?

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[newbie] OT: Journal File Systems

[Barry Premeaux]

I apologize for this not being strictly
Mandrake related, but I found this link off
the Newsforge.org site.  Its an excellent
write up on Journal File Systems.  I hope you
will enjoy it as much as I have.

http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1154

Barry



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Re: [newbie] Swap Partititon

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 24 January 2002 11:18 am, Paul Kraus wrote:
> That's the confusion. I am running 196 megs on my laptop so I should
> double this. But on my home system I am running 512mb so should I
> then make a 1gig swap? If not why?

   Just because  ;-)   

   Seriously, the old rule of thumb was "/swap should be 2 x ram". This 
is very dated, but might still apply if your runnin a (networked) 
server with lot'sa users and/or huge databases.  Back when most 
desktops had 8, 16, 32, even 64 mb of ram, it also appropriately 
applied. 'Course way back then, /swap was limited to 128 mb. Which also 
has become obsolete old news.

   Opinions vary, but I believe the current consensus is that /swap 
should be about 2 x ram, but up to a happy medium of about 200mb, for 
most current desktop systems. At least that's my take too. I've got 
512mb hard ram, and'a 180mb /swap. I rarely get more'n 20 mb's into 
/swap.  IOW's , about 160mb of unused disk space... no matter how 
crazy'a stuff I do ;)

You might also hear that the newest 2.4.x kernels want more swap. 
My experience is just the opposite.  Early ones did, >= 2.4.12 don't. 
2.4.17's seem to be on a diet ;)

 ~ $ free -m  [system's been up for several days, 24/7]
   total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 501496  5  0 58302
-/+ buffers/cache:   135365
Swap:180  2178

 ~ $ uname -r
2.4.17-6athlon

Jus'to digress a bit, but pertinent. Memory management will vary 
depending on your kernel, and your system usage.  The 'athlon' kernel 
I'm usin was just an experiment on my part. I compiled a Mandrake 
2.4.17-6mdk usin the default Mandrake .config, edited only for 
processor optimization. (1.4 Tbird, oc'd to 1.55 gig, ram at 135 mhz, 
CL2,4-bank-IL)

It actually tested a touch slower. I only did it 'cause I kept 
readin various recent claims of increased performance and better memory 
management with > 2.4.16 optimized for AMD.  Neither proved true.  The 
only reason  well three .. that I keep it is because; I also 
re-compiled again, trimming out stuff I don't use (ie, smaller, lighter 
kernel), now it's about as quick as Mandrake's default i586, and I'm to 
lazy to switch back to the 'regular' Mandrake 2.4.17-6mdk   ;~>>
  - 
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[newbie] OT(?) - header info in pine

[Roger Sherman]

Is it possible to check the header info in pine? I don't see a command for
that amongst the list at the bottom of the terminal window...


peace,

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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Automatic Windows Mount

[Derek Jennings]

putting 'noauto' in the option list ought to do the job I think. As in 

/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat  
noauto,ro,uid=501,gid=506,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0

Check out 'man fstab'   and 'man mount' for a full list of options.

derek


On Friday 25 January 2002 15:09, Roman Korcek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >> My windows driveis automatically mounted when I go into Linux. How
> >> do I turn this off?
> >
> > comment the entries in your /etc/fstab by placing # marks before
> > each line. mine would look like this:
> > #/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat
> > ro,uid=501,gid=506,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 #/dev/hda5
> > /mnt/win_d vfat uid=501,gid=506,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
> > #/dev/hda6 /mnt/win_e vfat
> > uid=501,gid=506,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
>
> I wonder, what should I do so that the drives don't get mounted but I
> can mount them with a simple mount /mnt/win_c without specifying all
> the filesystem type and the like options? A simple user,noauto in the
> options?
>
> TIA
> Roman



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[newbie] I can't install HP Laserjet 1200

[Bryan Wheelock]

I have been going around in circles trying to install a LJ 1200 on my mandrake 8.1 system. When I go to control center > printer >configure
I set cups to start automatically on boot
add printer
local printer
name printer 'printer"
select HP Laserjet 1200

the drop down menu vanishes, so I then click on DONE

to check that installation was correct, I go to HP LaserJet Control Panel
that generates an error:
Unable to parse "/etc/printcap" file - so I sent copy of that file to kde.org as requested

What can I do to set this up and get it to work.
Most of the mandrake documentation assumes their are no bugs and I can't figure out how to get around them or to fix it.

[newbie] Network Connectivity issues

[Paul Kraus]

On my gatewaysolo5300 I am running a megahtz pcmcia nic. When I install it 
finds this device and installs two drives both for the same card. One on eth0 
and one on eth1 both are setup for dhcp. Neither work when I first boot. I 
have to go into command center and then I have to go to network, connection, 
expert. If i try to activate eth0 nothing. it wont work. If i activate eth1 
it instantly comes up with no problems. It gets it's ip and all network 
resoures are available. Thanks. I had posted this before but have since 
gotten more info to add. I am not trying to repeat my self.

Paul



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[newbie] OpenOffice

[Paul Kraus]

I can not install the software. I am running a gateway solo 5300 laptop. 733 
mhz p3 with 196megs of ram. I click on setup it starts but right before the 
first dialog appears it locks. Screen has background install image and the 
options box is completly blank except the next button. You cant click on 
anything and if I move the mouse around it starts slowing the whole system 
down. It puts vertical lines across the screen. Then it completly freezes. 
The only thing I can do is shift alt f1. log in kill the .setup and the 
.setup.bin processes. then I have to wait like a minute or two. Then I can 
switch back to kde and everything works fine. I need the app. I have to able 
to reliably work with MS office files. Once I can do this and prove it to the 
powers that be I will be able to switch the entire office over to linux.

Paul




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[newbie] display hash marks in tool bars problem

[Andy Gay]

I get hash marks periodically in an otherwise nice display running my SVGA
56 hz 800x600 16 bit color on an Intel 815 video set up (my actual chip, not
listed explicitly is Intel 82815 graphics controller)

Although I can get rid of the hash marks with a 640x480 display setting,
that's not what I want to be looking at 6 hrs. a day.

Here's the question.  What can you tweek to get rid of the hash marks
without sacrificing 800x600 resolution?
Can you change the hsync or vertical settings in the XF86Config file, or
something?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [newbie] What gives?

[Peter Watson]

On Friday 25 January 2002 03:51 am, you wrote:
>   Hi All,
>
>   I used urpmi to update, then left it for a few hours. What is
> the smiley face bouncing around my kde desktop?

its AMOR - amusing misuse of resources - if you right click on it you 
can quit.

It usually lives in K> Amusement>  Toys>
-- 

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Re: [newbie] Basic Network

[Randy Kramer]

poogle wrote:
> >No I only want to be able to move files between machines for now, for
> example if I download something bigger than 1.44mb, I don't want to have to
> burn a CD just to get it onto the laptop, and I don't want to connect the
> laptop to the internet to download it again. (Windows has been banished BTW)

Just for completeness, you could also run an ftp server on one of the
two machines, and use an ftp client on the other.

Randy Kramer



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Re: [newbie] Star Office

[Randy Kramer]

Paul Kraus wrote:
> Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing?

Almost.  StarOffice was/is the Sun product, which became open sourced. 
When it became open sourced, certain features / programs incorporated in
it could not be open sourced because they were proprietary to other
companies.

OpenOffice is the ongoing development of the StarOffice open source
project, and they are, to some extent, writing or finding replacements
for the stuff that could not be incorporated when StarOffice became open
sourced.

I think, but am not sure, that StarOffice also continues to be developed
as an open source project.

I've think I've heard more people expressing a preference for OpenOffice
than vice versa.

Randy Kramer



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Re: [newbie] Tiny Emacs

[Mario Michael da Costa]

Charles Muller wrote:
> 
> I am trying to learn how to use the Emacs package that came with ML 8.1, but
> the program runs as a tiny window in one corner of my screen, with
> microscopic menu fonts. Is there a way to make this window larger, with
> larger menu fonts?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charles Muller
> 

Hello Charles,
If you don't already know emacs, may i suggest you try vim, or gvim ?
:o) it's much easier, and once you get used to it, you will find that
it makes life very very easy. If you need any help with learning vim,
i would be glad to help out. just mail me, and i'll reply first thing
on monday morning when i get back to work, or i'm sure that there will
be a lot of vimmers on this mailing list only too eager to help out.

Thank You,
Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Swap Partititon

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Thursday 24 January 2002 08:39 am, Paul Kraus wrote:
> Ok now this is confusing.
>
> 4.1.3.1. The most simple
> Is where you have just two partitions: one for the swap space, the other
> for the files1.
> Tip: The rule of thumb for the swap partition size is to choose double
> of the size of your RAM memory. However for
> large memory configurations (>512 MB), this rule is not valid, and
> smaller sizes are preferred.
>
>
> Says to double your ram to create your swap file then it contradicts
> itself. Can someone explain exactly how this should be done and maybe
> some theory behind it? I don't just like knowing how I like to now why.
> Thanks.
>
> Paul Kraus
> Network Administrator
> PEL Supply Company
> (216) 267-5775 Voice
> (216) 267-6176 Fax
> www.pelsupply.com

Paul:
Civileme posted an explanation about swap sizing last month. It should be at 
the newbie archives under the heading, "Preemptive strike #4 SWAP". My 
reading is that the guidelines for sizing the swap partition depend upon 
which kernel you are using:
2.0 - limited to 127 MB maximum
2.2 - twice RAM up to 250 MB, then equal or smaller
2.4 - "all you can spare"
His posting also includes a reference to an IBM whitepaper in case you want 
to dig deeper. 
HTH
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[newbie] Ogle question...

[Ronald J. Hall]

Hi. I setup Ogle for use with my Toshiba SCSI2 DVD player. Its /mnt/cdrom and
/dev/scd0. I'm using Ogle's GUI and it works, but it always looks for
/dev/dvd, I think.

I copied the /usr/share/ogle/oglerc file to /home/darklord/.oglerc, and
changed the path from /dev/dvd to /dev/scd0. This seems to work okay, I can
play a DVD from the moment the GUI launches, but is there some other/another
way that I was supposed to do it/set it up? I went to the Ogle web site and
read the FAQ but didn't find any more specific info.

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Trainging / Documentation

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Thursday 24 January 2002 08:14 am, Paul Kraus wrote:
> Is there any good documents, books, or pdf's  (preferably free and
> downloadable) that will help me learn linux quickly? I don't need all
> the unix background or this is how tho mouse works crap. I am a systems
> admin for NT and 2000 I just want to learn linux. The documentation that
> came with software is very nice but I want to print it and I don't want
> to have to print it page by page. Thanks
>
> Paul Kraus
> Network Administrator
> PEL Supply Company
> (216) 267-5775 Voice
> (216) 267-6176 Fax
> www.pelsupply.com

Paul:
Probably the two best print books are "Linux in a Nutshell" and "Running 
Linux" published by O'Reilly (www.oreilly.com). About $75 for the pair. I got 
mine at the local Borders. I expect that all of the other mass book retailers 
would have them, or they can be purchased on-line from O'Reilly and Amazon.
-- cmg



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Re: [newbie] Trainging / Documentation

[Randy Kramer]

Paul Kraus wrote:
> Is there any good documents, books, or pdf?s  (preferably free and
> downloadable) that will help me learn linux quickly? I don?t need all
> the unix background or this is how tho mouse works crap. I am a
> systems admin for NT and 2000 I just want to learn linux. The
> documentation that came with software is very nice but I want to print
> it and I don?t want to have to print it page by page. Thanks

Well, maybe not yet. ;-)

I am developing a website, WikiLearn, which I hope will address this
issue.  See http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn and follow the
AboutThesePages link -- read the "Goals" and "Beginner and Reminder
Pages" sections.

You won't find much of use yet, but you're welcome to look.  Even more,
you (and everybody) are welcome to record your learning experiences
there.  I do ask that you register at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration.  The registration
procedure is not onerous.  You enter your name, your email address, and
the country you're from, and pick a  password and a WikiName (username
for TWiki, in UpperCamelCase).

WikiLearn is indexed on Google, but I haven't quite pinpointed the
update cycle (it may be one to two months).  There is a search engine on
WikiLearn, but I like Google better if I think that what I'm looking for
is old enough to have been indexed by Google.  Search Google using a
query like [site:twiki.org ].

I'd like to move WikiLearn to its own site, and I have an approved
project on SourceForge.  If anyone with Perl, web administration, HTML,
or bash scripting experience wants to help (or wants to get experience),
let me know -- I have a list of ToDos on my personal TWiki that I can
move to WikiLearn (and update).  This includes things like setting up
TWiki (I've now done it three times, but not very well on SourceForge),
writing some scripts to aid in that process (things like adding webs,
setting permissions, and local and remote using ssh and rsync), setting
up the email notification and statistics (and fixing the statistics
script), and converting the (HTML) templates that are used on my home
TWiki to the new style used with the last two releases of TWiki.

Randy Kramer

PS: I guess my alternative answer might be "there is no quick way to
learn Linux".  It's not entirely true, and it depends on your
objectives.  I tried to move to Linux about 18 months ago with the idea
of learning it (and Perl, C++, make, CVS, Python, etc.) very quickly.  

(After all, I basically minored in computer science in school (while
earning a BSEE degree).   (They didn't officially have a computer
science minor, but, IIRC, I took three computer hardware courses and
seven computer software courses.)  Since then, I've managed electrical /
process control (computer) projects for more years than I want to admit,
while using computerized project management tools (and writing them on
an ad hoc basis, mostly in dos/Windows -- TurboPascal, DataStar ;-) ,
dBase, AskSam, Paradox, Access, Visual Basic).  

I'm embarrassed to admit I have not made very much progress.  Eventually
I bit the bullet and decided I would have to dig in and learn Linux (and
Perl, C++, make, CVS, Python, etc.) the slow way.  But, I'd like to
blaze a path for the next person.  WikiLearn will be the tool to blaze
the path.

PPS: I signed up for a free online couse in Linux called Basic Linux
Training.  It seems fairly useful so far.  See
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Re: [newbie] Basic Network

[poogle]

On Friday 25 January 2002 14:04 pm, you wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 07:03, poogle wrote:
> > I have a network card in my PC and a pcmcia network card in my laptop,
> > both are recognised/configured , I have crossover RJ45 cable and now I
> > want them to talk to each other. (both running 8.1, Windows not involved
> > here) I have read the books and rtfm but still don't understand what to
> > do. Can anyone point me to a simple tutorial covering Linux "peer to
> > peer" networking please, I've tried a google search but not come up with
> > one that meets my needs.
>
> What, exactly, are you trying to do? If both machines have IP addresses
> on the same network, then they should be able to ping each other. Can
> they?
>This is the part I don't understand, what IP addresses to use and how to 
configure them
> Are you wanting to emulate a Windows-type "Network Neighborhood"? If so,
> then you need to install Samba server and client on each machine, then
> configure them.
>No I only want to be able to move files between machines for now, for 
example if I download something bigger than 1.44mb, I don't want to have to 
burn a CD just to get it onto the laptop, and I don't want to connect the 
laptop to the internet to download it again. (Windows has been banished BTW)
> Alternatively, you could go with Linux' native NFS, which is more
> powerful than Samba. It lets you mount network filesystems in a similar
> manner that you would map a network drive in Windows, but it also
> maintains proper file permissions and executable capabilities between
> Linux boxes.
>
> Dave

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[newbie] Open TCP and UDP ports

[Mario Descalzi]

Hello, my name is Mario Descalzi amd am a 
programmer acting as system administrator; if your advise is to "ask your 
system adm." that would be me again. Have Linux Mandrake 7.0 with two ethernet 
cards one (192.168.1.1) for LAN and the other (www address); also have a Voice 
over IP (Planet VIP-400) device on my LAN (192.168.1.160). My counter part, a 
non Linux person, asked me to open the tcp 1720 port and udp ports 3 to 
31000, also redirect all trafic on these ports to LAN 192.168.1.160. My 
installation does not have iptables only ipchains. Could any one comment how 
coul I address this request?
 
Thanks.
 
Mario.

Re: [newbie] HP Printers

[JOHN HEMMER]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Trevor Rhodes wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about drivers and 
> support?  I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would like to have a bit of 
> information before I outlay the cash.
> 
> Trevor
> 

I've used a 930c for 2 years. Great Printer! Anything in the
900 series (940, 960, ... 990) should serve you well. They
can accept all the HP PCL3 codes.

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Re: [newbie] internet monitoring

[Derek Jennings]

Looks like you need Squid and SquidGuard


Squid is a first class proxy server. If you have a number of clients sharing 
an internet access, then Squid will substantially reduce latency by caching 
frequently served pages locally.

SquidGuard is a plug in for Squid to administer browsing policies in the same 
way as Surf Control.

Naturally because this is Linux, both products are GPL, and totally free. But 
if  they do the job your company needs I'm sure they would appreciate a 
donation.

Both products can be administered by Webmin.  I have used Squid it is real 
easy, I've never used SquidGuard.

Both products are on your Mandrake CD's, and here are the uRL's

http://www.squidguard.org/
http://www.squid-cache.org

derek

On Friday 25 January 2002 13:16, Anke & Max wrote:
> Paul Kraus asked on Thursday
>
> > Is there a way to setup up Linux so that it restricts access to all
> > internet sites that I don't specify? Can this be done an a
> > user/usergroup setting. Example. I only want some people to only be able
> > to access. www.cnet.com (and all child sites www.cnet.com/*.* ) and I
> > want management to be able to access 5 or 6 more sites.  Can I do this
> > with a Linux box between my network and my dsl router? Can I also set it
> > up to had out ip addresses? There is windows software (surf control)
> > that does this same thing but it cost around 2 grand and then you have
> > to have another win2k server setup so all of a sudden my cost for this
> > little task is around 5 thousand.
>
> Gidday Paul
> For the windows machines you could look at Surf Rat. I can't remember if
> you can set up the sites yourself or if it is a safe surf plugin. Worth a
> look
> HTH
> max



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Re: [newbie] Swap Partititon

[Randy Kramer]

Mario Michael da Costa wrote:
> I don't really know how true, what i am about to type below sounds, it
> is what was told to me by a more tech savvy friend.
> 
> The swap partition must be at least as big as the amount of physical
> ram in a machine. This is because in some cases the entire contents of
> the ram may be swapped back and forth between the ram and the swap
> partition. I know it sounds a little farfetched, but at least this is
> what i follow, coz to be honest, i don't know any better.

That seems to correlate with the recommendation I heard -- that swap
less than 2x RAM was not  useful for some versions of the 2.4 kernel,
due to a bug or problem of some sort.

I know that's not true for all kernels.

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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

[Roman Korcek]

Hey,

> Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about drivers and
> support?  I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would like to have a bit of 
> information before I outlay the cash.

I have a DeskJet 930C and it printed the test page during MDK install
pretty fine (but *so* slowly :-(  ). Haven't tried more printing yet,
just to let you know the test page works (with CUPS).

Roman




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Re[2]: [newbie] Automatic Windows Mount

[Roman Korcek]

Hi,

>> My windows driveis automatically mounted when I go into Linux. How
>> do I turn this off?

> comment the entries in your /etc/fstab by placing # marks before
> each line. mine would look like this:
> #/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat ro,uid=501,gid=506,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
> #/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat uid=501,gid=506,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
> #/dev/hda6 /mnt/win_e vfat uid=501,gid=506,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0

I wonder, what should I do so that the drives don't get mounted but I
can mount them with a simple mount /mnt/win_c without specifying all
the filesystem type and the like options? A simple user,noauto in the
options?

TIA
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Re: [newbie] internet monitoring

[Mark Lucas]

The simplest way I can think of to achieve this is to use squid (proxy
server) and squidGuard. You can set Squid up as a transparent proxy so that
is automatically intercepts all calls on port 80. Squid Guard is very
configurable and can block/allow site by user, time or ip address. You can
even set squid to validate users from your SMB user database if you're using
SMB.

The best thing about it is that it's free and it works brilliantly!

Mark

- Original Message -
From: "Anke & Max" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] internet monitoring


> Paul Kraus asked on Thursday
>
>
> > Is there a way to setup up Linux so that it restricts access to all
> > internet sites that I don't specify? Can this be done an a
> > user/usergroup setting. Example. I only want some people to only be able
> > to access. www.cnet.com (and all child sites www.cnet.com/*.* ) and I
> > want management to be able to access 5 or 6 more sites.  Can I do this
> > with a Linux box between my network and my dsl router? Can I also set it
> > up to had out ip addresses? There is windows software (surf control)
> > that does this same thing but it cost around 2 grand and then you have
> > to have another win2k server setup so all of a sudden my cost for this
> > little task is around 5 thousand.





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Re: [newbie] Star Office

[Derek Jennings]

Granted StarOffice 5.2 and OpenOffice are very different beasts as described, 
but StarOffice6.0 and OpenOffice are all but identical. I have them both 
loaded, and the only difference I can detect between them is the splash 
screen when they open.

derek

On Friday 25 January 2002 14:35, Ralph Slooten wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Paul Kraus wrote:
> > Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing?
>
> No it's not. OpenOffice is an opensource version of StarOffice, even though
> I believe that StarOffice is opensource too. Once apon a time StarOffice
> (Sun Miscrosystems I believe) released their code to developers, who then
> in turn created (and are still developing) OpenOffice (OpenOffice.org to be
> correct ... patent issues).
>
> To sum it up in a nutshell, there are many differing issuse of the 2
> programs. When I once used StarOffice, it contained MANY different
> interfaces, like E-mail, a Web brower and so on, which OpenOffice.org does
> not. StarOffice also tried to intergrate into the KDE environmant I
> gathered, however in my opinion when I tried it it failed. Both programs
> share though the standard Office applications, mostly compared to Word,
> Excel, Powerpoint and so on.
>
> IMHO OpenOffice.org is a better program as it cuts down on unneccesary
> extras.
>
> Just my 5 cents ;-)
>
> Greetings
> Ralph



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Re: [newbie] Basic Network

[Derek Jennings]

There is a nice two pager on NFS in the documents section at 
www.mandrakeuser.org

One thing to remember the tutorial does not make clear :-
You must have exactly the same users in both computers, and they must have 
identical user id numbers. So for example user 'poolgle uid=501' on computer 
A may only access files that user 'poogle uid=501' is entitled to access on 
computer B. The same goes for Group identifiers.

Once you have NFS working kwikdisk is a useful way of mounting your NFS 
shares with a quick mouse click.

HTH

derek


On Friday 25 January 2002 14:04, you wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 07:03, poogle wrote:
> > I have a network card in my PC and a pcmcia network card in my laptop,
> > both are recognised/configured , I have crossover RJ45 cable and now I
> > want them to talk to each other. (both running 8.1, Windows not involved
> > here) I have read the books and rtfm but still don't understand what to
> > do. Can anyone point me to a simple tutorial covering Linux "peer to
> > peer" networking please, I've tried a google search but not come up with
> > one that meets my needs.
>
> What, exactly, are you trying to do? If both machines have IP addresses
> on the same network, then they should be able to ping each other. Can
> they?
>
> Are you wanting to emulate a Windows-type "Network Neighborhood"? If so,
> then you need to install Samba server and client on each machine, then
> configure them.
>
> Alternatively, you could go with Linux' native NFS, which is more
> powerful than Samba. It lets you mount network filesystems in a similar
> manner that you would map a network drive in Windows, but it also
> maintains proper file permissions and executable capabilities between
> Linux boxes.
>
> Dave



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Re: [newbie] Cron

[Derek Jennings]

On Friday 25 January 2002 13:02, Anke & Max wrote:
> Derek said on Thursday, January 24
>
> > A nice way to administer cron jobs is with webmin
> >
> > Just install the webmin package and put https://localhost.1 in a
> > browser URL line.

By the way: This was a type. It should read
https://localhost:1


> >
> > You will get a warning message about a self certified certificate the
> > first time you run it. Just accept it.
> >
> > Note https  not http, and if it does not work check the webmin service is
> > running.
> >
> > Webmin allows you to configure almost every aspect of your computer in a
> > simple manner, and even works remotely.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > derek
>
> Gidday Derek and everyone else
>
> I've been using webmin from a Mac and I can't for the life of me, get it to
> accept the certificate
> It asks again and again if I want to continue and I can't find anywhere to
> turn it off. You wouldn't know of a cure would you?
> TIA
> max

well I'm assuming you are accepting the certificate?
Have you tried a different browser? Otherwise I have no idea

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Re: [newbie] internet monitoring

[Scott]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Anke & Max wrote:
> > Is there a way to setup up Linux so that it restricts access to all
> > internet sites that I don't specify? Can this be done an a
> > user/usergroup setting. Example. I only want some people to only be able
> > to access. www.cnet.com (and all child sites www.cnet.com/*.* ) and I
> > want management to be able to access 5 or 6 more sites.  Can I do this
> > with a Linux box between my network and my dsl router? Can I also set it
> > up to had out ip addresses? There is windows software (surf control)
> > that does this same thing but it cost around 2 grand and then you have
> > to have another win2k server setup so all of a sudden my cost for this
> > little task is around 5 thousand.

Sounds like my home network and the proxy is only to keep my kids from 
hitting stuff they don't need to see because they mis-typed 
cartoonnetwork.com.  Anyway, a Mandrake box can do your DHCP for you, just 
click the Internet Connection Sharing wizard in the control panel and when 
you are done your Mandrake box will server DHCP, act as a cahcing DNS 
machine and once you set up Squid it will also be your proxy server.  
Samba will be your friend.  You can set up groups and do restrictions.  
Have some patience with it when setting up, but it should do what you 
mention above. 

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RE: [newbie] Star Office

[Ralph Slooten]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Paul Kraus wrote:

> Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing?

No it's not. OpenOffice is an opensource version of StarOffice, even though
I believe that StarOffice is opensource too. Once apon a time StarOffice
(Sun Miscrosystems I believe) released their code to developers, who then
in turn created (and are still developing) OpenOffice (OpenOffice.org to be
correct ... patent issues).

To sum it up in a nutshell, there are many differing issuse of the 2
programs. When I once used StarOffice, it contained MANY different
interfaces, like E-mail, a Web brower and so on, which OpenOffice.org does
not. StarOffice also tried to intergrate into the KDE environmant I
gathered, however in my opinion when I tried it it failed. Both programs
share though the standard Office applications, mostly compared to Word,
Excel, Powerpoint and so on.

IMHO OpenOffice.org is a better program as it cuts down on unneccesary
extras.

Just my 5 cents ;-)

Greetings
Ralph





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RE: [newbie] Star Office

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] Star Office





It is not on the d/l'd version only on the boxed sets cause it is proprietary. You can d/l openoffice.org though.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Kraus
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Star Office



Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it 
located? I can't find it.


Paul

Re: [newbie] Basic Network

[Dave Sherman]

On Fri, 2002-01-25 at 07:03, poogle wrote:
> I have a network card in my PC and a pcmcia network card in my laptop, both 
> are recognised/configured , I have crossover RJ45 cable and now I want them 
> to talk to each other. (both running 8.1, Windows not involved here)
> I have read the books and rtfm but still don't understand what to do.
> Can anyone point me to a simple tutorial covering Linux "peer to peer" 
> networking please, I've tried a google search but not come up with one that 
> meets my needs.

What, exactly, are you trying to do? If both machines have IP addresses
on the same network, then they should be able to ping each other. Can
they?

Are you wanting to emulate a Windows-type "Network Neighborhood"? If so,
then you need to install Samba server and client on each machine, then
configure them.

Alternatively, you could go with Linux' native NFS, which is more
powerful than Samba. It lets you mount network filesystems in a similar
manner that you would map a network drive in Windows, but it also
maintains proper file permissions and executable capabilities between
Linux boxes.

Dave
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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

[Daniel Anderson]

Hi,
  I recently bought a HP Deskjet 841C and it does great. I think Linux has 
drivers for many models of Deskjet and Laserjet.
 Dan


On Friday 25 January 2002 04:00, you wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about drivers and
> support?  I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would like to have a bit
> of information before I outlay the cash.
>
> Trevor

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Re: [newbie] Star Office

[Gerald Waugh]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Paul Kraus wrote:
> >%_Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where is it 
> located? I can't find it.
> 

On the three cd set
it is on the commercial one.
--
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RE: [newbie] Star Office

[Paul Kraus]

Is openoffice and staroffice the same thing?

Paul Kraus
Network Administrator
PEL Supply Company
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of shane
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Star Office

staroffice is in the powerpack not the download, and the truth is you
would 
rather run the newer openoffice downloads.  :)  hop out to
openoffice.org is 
the place i do believe.

On Thursday 24 January 2002 12:48, you spoke unto me thusly:

> Someone posted earlier that star office was on the mdk8.1 cd's. Where
is it
> located? I can't find it.
>
> Paul

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Re: [newbie] internet monitoring

[Anke & Max]

Paul Kraus asked on Thursday


> Is there a way to setup up Linux so that it restricts access to all
> internet sites that I don't specify? Can this be done an a
> user/usergroup setting. Example. I only want some people to only be able
> to access. www.cnet.com (and all child sites www.cnet.com/*.* ) and I
> want management to be able to access 5 or 6 more sites.  Can I do this
> with a Linux box between my network and my dsl router? Can I also set it
> up to had out ip addresses? There is windows software (surf control)
> that does this same thing but it cost around 2 grand and then you have
> to have another win2k server setup so all of a sudden my cost for this
> little task is around 5 thousand.
>

Gidday Paul
For the windows machines you could look at Surf Rat. I can't remember if you can set up
the sites yourself or if it is a safe surf plugin. Worth a look
HTH
max




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[newbie] Basic Network

[poogle]

I have a network card in my PC and a pcmcia network card in my laptop, both 
are recognised/configured , I have crossover RJ45 cable and now I want them 
to talk to each other. (both running 8.1, Windows not involved here)
I have read the books and rtfm but still don't understand what to do.
Can anyone point me to a simple tutorial covering Linux "peer to peer" 
networking please, I've tried a google search but not come up with one that 
meets my needs.
-- 

Poogle
Registered Linux user 182657 



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Re: [newbie] Cron

[Anke & Max]

Derek said on Thursday, January 24

> A nice way to administer cron jobs is with webmin
>
> Just install the webmin package and put https://localhost.1 in a browser
> URL line.
>
> You will get a warning message about a self certified certificate the first
> time you run it. Just accept it.
>
> Note https  not http, and if it does not work check the webmin service is
> running.
>
> Webmin allows you to configure almost every aspect of your computer in a
> simple manner, and even works remotely.
>
> HTH
>
> derek

Gidday Derek and everyone else

I've been using webmin from a Mac and I can't for the life of me, get it to accept the
certificate
It asks again and again if I want to continue and I can't find anywhere to turn it off.
You wouldn't know of a cure would you?
TIA
max




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[newbie] KDE 3 and Mandrake 8.2

[maurizio . laudone]

Hi guys,
DOes anyone know if the new Mandrake 8.2 will have KDE3?...I tried the beta
(which was a bit too beta for me...'cos I'm not a developer)of KDE3 and
I found it very good anywayfaster and lighter than even .great improvement
from KDE2...and it looks even nicerso i was really curious to know if
it was going to be part of the new distribution of my favourite Linux flavour.
Cheers everyone
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Re: [newbie] HP Printers

[Ralph Slooten]

Try looking here: http://www.linuxprinting.org/

They have a great selection of drivers and such :-) Helped me get my Epson
C80 working perfectly

Ralph

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Trevor Rhodes wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about drivers and
> support?  I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would like to have a bit of
> information before I outlay the cash.
>
> Trevor
>
>





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Re: [newbie] Using Xfce

[Derek Jennings]

On Friday 25 January 2002 00:50, Michel Clasquin wrote:
> On Thursday 24 January 2002 13:49, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > Off topic. I took Sridhar's comments to heart and spent some time
> > researching which applications executed fastest for use with my XFCE
> > based laptop. The performance differences were quite striking. here are
> > the apps which performed best .
> > [[snip]]
> > File Manager -XFtree
> > These are not always the prettiest applications, but they are fast..
>
> Did you try xwc (XWinCommander) ? Fast, and pretty too.

No, but I have now...
Yes it is fast, and I prefer the two pane layout. The downside is I cannot 
get drag and drop to work to the other applications. Is there a gtk version?, 
Drag and drop should work in that.

One issue I currently have with xftree, is I have difficulty getting it to 
recognise double mouse clicks for opening documents. If you know where the 
configuration file is that controls this I would be obliged.

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[newbie] Deleting footer text with procmail

[Ralph Slooten]

Sorry if this seems unethical, however has anyone managed to make a
procmail formulae that can delete this annoying
"Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
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Yes, I understand that one is supposed to read this, and trust me I have
(like 1 times now), but I am a bit sick of it :-(

Any ideas would be great :-)

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[newbie] That perl problem again

[Robin Turner]

Every time I've tried to install a perl program/module I get the 
following message:

Error: Unable to locate installed Perl libraries or Perl source code

This despite the fact that Mandrake (8.1) seems to have installedPerl 
in one of the locations looked for by the make program.

I trawled the archives for this one - could find the similar 
questions, but no answers.

Robin

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Turkey

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[newbie] Tiny Emacs

[Charles Muller]

I am trying to learn how to use the Emacs package that came with ML 8.1, but
the program runs as a tiny window in one corner of my screen, with
microscopic menu fonts. Is there a way to make this window larger, with
larger menu fonts?

Regards,

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Toyo Gakuen University
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[newbie] HP Printers

[Trevor Rhodes]

Hello Everyone,

Can any of you with late model HP printers let me know about drivers and 
support?  I'm looking to buy one this weekend and would like to have a bit of 
information before I outlay the cash.

Trevor



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